Jay Bookman

By gadem

February 10, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

Oh well…no one knows what will work to save us from this mess. Better to try something, rather than sit around and wait…

By AJC/DNC Management

February 10, 2009 4:15 PM | Link to this

The new socialism has crashed, so to speak.

ew.

By Disgusted

February 10, 2009 4:28 PM | Link to this

I’m convinced our stock markets are run by a gaggle of nervous little old ladies who sell at the slightest sign of trouble. Bad night at the bingo table? Sell, sell, sell. Mouse in the kitchen? Sell, sell, sell. There’s no rational excuse for today’s sell-off. Attempting to explain it by citing the lack of details in Geithner’s presentation is pure guess-work. Worry not. The little old ladies will jump back in and buy in a couple of days. Unless, of course, another Bernie Madoff gets to them first. I’m rooting for the new Bernie.

By Another innane remark...

February 10, 2009 4:29 PM | Link to this

… from our own village idiot *AJC/DNC Management. * This crash is the end of the old trickle-down economics. Can we get a collective ‘thanks a lot’ for the old supply-siders? For the regular folks, a better description of trickle-down economics would be trickled-on economics.

By MorningStar

February 10, 2009 4:31 PM | Link to this

Ooooh, perhaps we should attack Mars, the Moon, or perhaps some unknown astroid. I mean, gosh, gee whiz, President Obama has been in office about how many days now? Time to fix the Thuglican mess!!! You betcha!!!

By @@

February 10, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

If I were talking to President Obama, I’d take a brief moment to remind him that it is THOSE WITH MONEY who drive the economic engine. They are to be appreciated, not punished.

The problem with Obama is he drives his mouth before “his engine” is engaged.

By Greg Mendel

February 10, 2009 4:40 PM | Link to this

“Disgusted” is right. The Dow will erase its losses, probably as early as tomorrow. It did pretty well the other day when the frightening unemployment figures came out.

By gadem

February 10, 2009 4:42 PM | Link to this

@@, yes those with the money just sit on the money and become more and more greedy. Plenty of examples out there to back that up. The middle class drives the economy last time I checked.

By Paul

February 10, 2009 4:44 PM | Link to this

Jay

Are you saying the market has some degree of rationality?

BTW - when I glance at my second monitor, your thread “In Florida, Gov. Crist backs Obama”

appears as “In Florida, God. Christ backs Obama”

which leads me to wonder, what are God and Christ doing in Florida?

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 4:48 PM | Link to this

gadem, ah yes, wealth envy! You should check again on who runs the economy gadem. It might shock you a bit. By the way, most rich folks I know don’t sit around thinking about how to obtain more money. I’m sure that you don’t know any rich folks at all.

By taxpayer

February 10, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this

Not to worry, Jay. We’re just in a soft patch. We should just sit back and wait for everything to work itself out on its own like the Republicans want. Then, when we keep getting worse and worse off, the Republicans can look back and say that we would not be in this mess if only we had cut taxes but we could not because the Democrats were in control. Where’s Phil Gramm when we need him. He would know what to do to fix everything — him and John McCain. After all, John McCain even knows how to catch bin Laden. He’s a smart man. Too bad he’s such a selfish man. Keeping that secret to himself just because he’s a sore loser.

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this

GEITHNER: ‘WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT OUT DETAILS, UNTIL WE GET IT RIGHT’…-Tim Gietner

Oh boy, we are in HUGE trouble. This idiot doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing. I would not trust this guy to change a light bulb let alone make economic policy. Good days are behind us, Jay.

By Paul

February 10, 2009 4:58 PM | Link to this

Possible the market’s confidence in the gov’t solutions is driven by such mindsets as this?

Link: Sen Schumer says in a message to the chattering class - people don’t care about the pork in the bill

Simple question: if people don’t care, why put it in?

And if he means people don’t care about the criticism, then where is the criticism coming from? A chattering class?

Add Sen Schumer to the list of Democratic politicians that Pres Obama has been unable to convince to ‘change.’

By gadem

February 10, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

Commie, how do you know whom I know. And your statement about rich people running the economy is just as idiotic. The middle class is larger and therefore spends more money. Sure the super wealthy have more personal wealth, but they are not freely spending it. For an example, look no further than the recent events…stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

By RealityKing

February 10, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this

Yes, tomorrow is another day, and another trillion dollar spendulus plan. etc, etc, etc..

Liberal change you can believe in..

TOLD YOU SO!!

By @@

February 10, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this

Paul:

You’ll appreciate this from Stratfor. It’s entitled Munich and the Continuity Between the Bush and Obama Foreign Policies

((Willingness to talk is important, but what is said is much more important. Obama’s first foray into foreign policy via Biden indicates that, generally speaking, he understands the constraints and pressures that drive American foreign policy, and he understands the limits of presidential power. Atmospherics aside, Biden’s positions — as opposed to his rhetoric — were strikingly similar to Cheney’s foreign policy positions.

We argued long ago that presidents don’t make history, but that history makes presidents. We see Biden’s speech as a classic example of this principle.))

Did you know Kissinger was at Munich? Not in an official capacity, but it appears he’ll be doin’ some negotiating with the Russians.

Oddly enough, there was a piece on the “stimulus” plan (rarely does Stratfor venture into domestic stuff) but the phrase was repeated several times…….the government will profit.

My question is will the citizens be paid back with interest on their loan?

I’m bettin’ not.

gadem:

Did you read where I said “Obama drives his mouth before “his engine’s engaged?”

His fear mongering has got the public so terrified, even the middle class is afraid to spend what he’s told them they won’t have.

Hell, I consider myself middle class. I’m doin’ the best I can to stimulate the economy but that’s because I don’t believe a word that comes out of any politician’s mouth.

Seeing is believing.

By @@

February 10, 2009 5:10 PM | Link to this

Oops! Paul…..I forgot to head those Stratfor paragraphs like they did in the article.

The More Things Change…..

(ISH)

By AJC/DNC Management

February 10, 2009 5:10 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Another innane remark… February 10, 2009 4:29 PM … from our own village idiot *AJC/DNC Management.}}}}

Oh, did my little POS fan club not like that one?

Well, aren’t my tears flowing.

GFY, turdblossom.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

Tomorrow’s just another day since we have a government completely run by Democrats, but back when we had a Republican President an an election on the horizon things were a little different.

{{{{{Does the Dow have a bottom? By Jay Bookman | Monday, October 6, 2008, 11:44 AM The Atlanta Journal-Constitution DJ Industrials down more than 400 this morning, breaking the 10,000 mark. It’s scary out there, folks.}}}}}}

By Dusty

February 10, 2009 5:20 PM | Link to this

Dear Paul,

Your questions are very thoughtful. Wish I could carry out that premise but…..to answer your questions.

By the way, just to hear Geithner’s name makes me think of tax evaders and other crooks.I wouldn’t even let him do my taxes.

That’s another problem with Obama. He fits in too easily with crooks. Mr. G forgot? I suspect many in the pentiteniary just “forgot”. Looks like Yemen forgives and forgets ( off subject)!. They just released all 100 al Queada prisoners. Will Guantanamo be the next to follow?

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 5:33 PM | Link to this

gadem, you wrote: the middle class is larger and spends more money. So, the middle class spends more money than the rich? Do you have any documentation of this? Also, how is it possible for the middle class to be in a position of economic pain and the rich not? I mean, if the middle class is running the economy you’d think that the middle class would have more money saved up, right? I think you’re confused gadem.

By citizen

February 10, 2009 5:35 PM | Link to this

Is anyone else out there concerned that more and more of the power is being shifted to Washington? The Federalist have waited a long time for this to come about and I’m sure Thomas Jefferson didn’t really mean for us to become a ‘western France’.

By Paul

February 10, 2009 5:37 PM | Link to this

Dusty

I really didn’t consider “what are God and Christ doing in Florida?” a serious question….

:-)

But my questioning of Sen Schumer’s attitude was.

@@

My thanks, again. BTW - the “more things change” was priceless!

Just another example of areas where the farfarleft may have more angst then the rest of the spectrum.

I’d love to see MoveOn or Huffington or MediaMatters analyze this:

[[Biden’s positions — as opposed to his rhetoric — were strikingly similar to Cheney’s foreign policy positions.]]

By @@

February 10, 2009 5:44 PM | Link to this

I think gadem probably dreams of being middle class. If Obama gets his way, we’ll all be at the lower end of middle class with no hopes of “mo money” to drive those new fuel-efficient vehicles.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 5:50 PM | Link to this

{{{{{I’d love to see MoveOn or Huffington or MediaMatters analyze this}}}}}

Paul,

They would analyze it the same way they do any inconvenient fact they’re confronted with. They would just say you can’t trust Statfor and call you an idiot if you do. Really deep thinkers out there in the fever swamps dontchaknow.

By TN Gelding

February 10, 2009 5:51 PM | Link to this

Well, I bought in today.

So I’m hoping tomorrow is another, and a better, day.

The last time I checked, the top 1% controlled about 32% of the wealth. That would leave about 64% for the middle class and 4% for the rest.

By Paul

February 10, 2009 5:57 PM | Link to this

TN Gelding

BINGO comment of the day!

[[The last time I checked, the top 1% controlled about 32% of the wealth. That would leave about 64% for the middle class and 4% for the rest.]]

THAT’S why the Obama Administration and Democrats are ratcheting up the definition of middle class to $150,000 or $250,000 a year. So these top three percenters are now included in the ‘middle class’ so Democrats can say they’ve broken the concentration of wealth and have grown the middle class.

Wow.

By Dusty

February 10, 2009 6:12 PM | Link to this

Dear Paul,

I was considering your questions on Shumer’s statements. Did you think I was talking about Crist?

By AJC/DNC Management

February 10, 2009 6:14 PM | Link to this

Ok, so I stole one from Limbaugh, so stalk me if you must-

{{{{Obama is out there, “I inherited, I inherited, I inherited, oh, woe is me, I didn’t want this to be the first thing I had to do in my presidency, oh, woe is me,” but he voted for every damn thing that led to all this.}}}}

Bwahahahahahaha, oww!

By Paul

February 10, 2009 6:23 PM | Link to this

Dusty 6:12

Naw, I didn’t. I knew perfectly well you’d be focused on the larger issue.

I admit, I do have to shake my head at his attitude ‘people don’t care about pork.” Same as saying “people don’t care about sending money from their wallet to Washington so a politician can avoid the normal appropriation process and make a payoff.” Amazing.

Here’s another item I’ve been chewing on - from one of @@’s links, I think

[[On a trip (Munich) that left me more optimistic than I had been initially, one concern I take away is the tension that might emerge between Obama and Petraeus if the former wants to trim his sails and focus more on killing terrorists in Afghanistan while the latter wants to expand his efforts to foster population security. Not only would this be a tragic and detrimental outcome, it would be an ironic one: The general who Bush tapped in Iraq to jettison a losing counterterrorism approach in favor of a winning counterinsurgency strategy becoming the general who falls out of favor with Obama because he doesn’t want to do the reverse in Afghanistan.

Like everything with Afghanistan, this scenario is far from certain, and let’s hope it never comes to pass.]]

Link: what to do in Afghanistan

By getalife

February 10, 2009 6:23 PM | Link to this

Guaranteeing their losses mean we will pay for Wall Street gamble on toxic mortgages. It is the demand of Wall Street economic terrorists to our government.

It is an outrage but will get them to start lending. The economic terrorists won.

Pentagon said North Korea are setting the stage for a missile launch.

By taxpayer

February 10, 2009 6:25 PM | Link to this

Jay,

Just curious regarding your thoughts. What do you think our global economy would look like if our government had taken the Republican strategy of doing nothing when we had that electronic run on the bank? What about doing nothing and just letting businesses go bankrupt? AIG for example and the string of dominoes that would have followed. I wonder how many people even have a clue.

By zzzzz

February 10, 2009 6:35 PM | Link to this

Getawipe, wow.. honestly. you r a pundit, sir.. a total pundit.

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 6:43 PM | Link to this

Bookman, didn’t you write about pork and how bad pork was? I seem to remember that you did. Anyhoo, your boy Chuck Schumer doesn’t seem to think America cares about it. Now, I also remember Obama making a big deal out of pork.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEfICUoWKBw

By zzzzz

February 10, 2009 6:43 PM | Link to this

Bookman is going to speak and answer questions tonite maybe there’s room for U if U go.

should be fun. respect.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 6:45 PM | Link to this

OK, I’m not crazy about Geithner. I’m looking for documentation on the plan.

Anybody got anything?

My first instinct is if Wall Street don’t like it, there may be something worthwhile there.

Oh, and Stratfor, if you pay under 30 bucks a month for global intelligence, what? a dollar a day, you may be getting what you pay for.

For only $14.00 a month, less that 50 cents a day, you can feed a whole family and not your own paranoia.

I know I’ve been filled with snarkasm all day! (Multiple Snarkasms)

Roasted Rosemary Pork tonight, I grew the Rosemary not the pork (HOA would not be happy).

By Paul

February 10, 2009 6:48 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

I don’t think Rosemary’s gonna be too happy, either -

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 6:49 PM | Link to this

Mrs.Godzilla, your guess is as good as anyone else. As far as your comment about Wall Street not liking it, well since we are still a capitalist country and not a socialist one yet, you should be concerned. When Wall Street is down we are down.

By taxpayer

February 10, 2009 6:55 PM | Link to this

The least the Do Nothing Party (aka, the Republican party) could do to help the economy is refuse to accept payment for, well, doing nothing. That would also result in the elimination of a little more pork. Do us all a favor, Do Nothings, go home and refuse to accept taxpayer dollars for being Do Nothings.

By donny davis

February 10, 2009 7:06 PM | Link to this

Hi,

I have a perspective on Geitner’s Giveaway that I would like to share. I believe I might be on target with this.

One of the central aspects of Geitner’s Giveaway concerns what he calls “bad assets”. He wishes to encourage private firms to purchase these “bad assets”.

So what is a “bad asset”. It is, in fact, a past-due account or an uncollectable account. It is clear that what will happen when any private firm purchases these assets is that the firm will use automated dialers to aggressive collect these past due accounts. This means the automated dialers will be calling American citizens homes on a daily basis or perhaps more frequently than that.

So, in essence, we will be paying private firms to assume the “bad assets” and begin the aggressive collections with automated dialers.

This is the Obama plan.

yours,

donny davis

By @@

February 10, 2009 7:17 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla:

Worry not! The Stratfor subscription is paid for by part of the interest off my savings account. The children are fed through our church’s tithe, both overseas and here at home.

Stratfor doesn’t promote paranoia. It gives me a broader picture of the world. They’re actually very reassuring in their assessments. The more I know, the more prepared I am. Unfortunately, this administration withholds details. Now, if you don’t mind…..

Around the Middle East in one post:

Hamas does not believe it will be able to reach a long-term cease-fire in Gaza with Israel if Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party wins the Feb. 10 election in Israel, Agence France-Presse reported, citing senior Hamas member Osama Hamdan. Hamas is watching the election closely to determine whether a truce is possible, Hamdan said.

So I guess Hamas firing rockets into southern Israel on the eve of the elections was a good thing or a bad thing? It depends on who they’re trying to sell this crap to. Plenty of Palestinian/Hamas sympathizers here in the U.S. that are willing to buy into it. They create their victim status and then whine that they can’t have peace?

I need to check on the Israeli elections. It was a pretty close race with some third party candidate even more to the right than Netanyahu gaining support. I think his name was Lieberman. The young Israelis love the guy.

Iran is meddling in the Hamas rivalry. Could prove to be risky for Iran. Saudi Arabia has an in with the more pragmatic (political players) in Hamas. The ones exiled in Syria. Speaking of Syria…

The Syrian government signed a multibillion dollar deal with French company Airbus to purchase 50 commercial aircraft after the United States issued a sanction waiver on the agreement, KUNA reported Feb. 9. The United States also approved the sale of parts for two aging Boeing 747 planes, in a move that Syrian Transport Minister Yarub Bader referred to as a positive step in Syrian-U.S. relations.

(((Interpol has issued a security alert for 85 terrorists suspected of planning attacks against Saudi Arabia, The Associated Press reported Feb. 10. Interpol said Saudi officials called for the alert, the largest ever issued for as many suspects at one time.)))

Hmmmmm….any guesses who they might be?

Oh, AND….

(((Iraq is attempting to strengthen its relations with Saudi Arabia, although it is not planning to join any alliances, KUNA reported Feb. 10, citing state-run daily Al-Sabah. Iraqi lawmaker Sami al-Askari said that Iraq foresees greater cooperation between Saudi Arabia and Iraq in 2009.)))

A Shiite-led government seeking to strengthen it’s relations with a Sunni led government?

I must admit…..the Saudis perplex me.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 7:21 PM | Link to this

Socialist, Capitalist, COMMIE whatever…

If the folks on or about Wall Street don’t want to invest in America, why should I want to invest in them?

If they don’t like our terms - screw ‘em.

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 7:26 PM | Link to this

Mrs.Godzilla, do I get under you skin? Check out this site. Funny as crap.

http://www.fmylife.com/

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this

I wonder what the retail mark up is on Global Intelligence?

By taxpayer

February 10, 2009 7:32 PM | Link to this

At least it will create jobs for people willing to go forth and do the physical collecting, donny. Then, those people will further stimulate the economy in unforeseen ways. The ones that get the snot beat out of them by the possessor of said asset will end up supporting the health care industry. The ones that are successful in collecting said asset will receive a paltry pittance and put it to work feeding their children. Finally, the purchaser of select fire sale priced debts and other notes of delectable character will sit back and rake in more easy money to pack away with the other billions in hidden tax-evading accounts. We the people will collectively pay interest on the loans used to purchase the worthless amongst the rubble of assets until we are dead and gone. In the end, most people will experience yet another round of trickle down economics in action. Some refer to it as yellow rain while others use more descriptive terms. And, life goes on until it does not for all of us, rich or poor.

By getalife

February 10, 2009 7:36 PM | Link to this

pf,

I am to punditry as you are to comedy.

By RB from Gwinnett

February 10, 2009 7:40 PM | Link to this

By taxpayer 6:55

TP, I’ll agree to not take any of Obama’s handouts if you’ll agree he doesn’t get any of my income to pay for it all? Are you willing to make that gamble for all of us? Do you really think “Obama’s going to pay my mortgage, car payment, and gas” is going to fund the “bailout”?

As I said before the election, this whole thing isn’t about “change”, it’s about cash. And the loser class now has control of the cash and they’re going to take it from the people who work and earn it in record numbers.

Paul, I humbly disagree with you. We ARE noe a socialist country. There is no club you join to get that moniker, Paul, you just wake up one day and the loser class has the power to plunder the treasury at will. The day has arrived.

By @@

February 10, 2009 7:44 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla:

Mind if I ask what business it is of yours how I spend my money?

I’m as frugal as they come. I even got my Stratfor subscription at a discount. I’m one of the lucky ones. Many have signed on after the rate increase. They’re probably envious too.

If it makes you feel better, I don’t eat “as high-on-the-hog” as you.

Not looking to fill a void that takes me up to (what is it you profess to be?) two tons of fun?

Don’t wanna tax the healthcare industry thereby driving up the cost of your healthcare.

By taxpayer

February 10, 2009 7:51 PM | Link to this

RB,

As soon as you and the other Do Nothings have paid off Bush’s 5 trillion dollar debt, we can call it even.

By Copyleft

February 10, 2009 7:59 PM | Link to this

Wall Street always panics and pouts when someone suggests that accountability should apply to their actions.

Tell them to suck it up and quit whining.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 8:01 PM | Link to this

{{{{{Oh, and Stratfor, if you pay under 30 bucks a month for global intelligence, what? a dollar a day, you may be getting what you pay for.}}}}}}}

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That was from somebody that believes everything written at Mother Jones, The Daily Koz, and Democratic Underground is gospel truth.

By Class of '98

February 10, 2009 8:02 PM | Link to this

Man, I’m really confused. I thought this world was going to be perfect as of January 20. I thought all our mortgages would be instantly paid off and 100 dollar bills would grow like crab grass.

What happened?

By rcs

February 10, 2009 8:05 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, I posted this earlier but you may not have seen it

{{{ Taxpayer, you keep attributing 5 trillion to George W. Bush.

When Bush took office the deficit was 5.7 trillion dollars. When Pelosi/Reid gained control of congress, the deficit was 8.67 trillion. That’s 2.97 trillion you can attribute to Bush and the Republicans.

When Obama took office the deficit was 10.33 trillion. That’s 1.66 trillion that came from the Pelosi/Reid congress.

Add the 900 billion that just passed the senate and you have 2.56 trillion from Pelosi/Reid/Obama.

Republicans = 2.97 trillion. Democrats = 2.56 trillion. Looks like there’s plenty of blame for both parties. }}}

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 8:07 PM | Link to this

@@ i don’t remember addressing you?

I caught sight of the name Strafor while scanning tonights posts, that’s all. Nothing personal. I did say you got your money’s worth.

commie yes, sometimes. but a little pine tar ointment takes care of it. you make me laugh- sometimes good sometimes bad. so it goes.

MOST, of the loyal opposition are fine folks. I’d loan ‘em an egg or a cup of milk or the big ladder or maybe even the car. I just don’t want you running the country or even advising on running the country right now.

By AmVet

February 10, 2009 8:11 PM | Link to this

So the DJIA is now at 7888.

That works out to about a -15% return for the past decade. And is approaching half of what it was (14,000+) as recently as the fall of 2007. The question is will it continue the free fall beginning last September.

We all hope the bottom is not far off, but I’m not hopeful.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

February 10, 2009 8:15 PM | Link to this

Timothy Geithner is just Hank Paulson with hair.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 8:19 PM | Link to this

amvet,

I don’t believe the DJIA is rebounding anytime soon, but that doesn’t mean that aren’t good investment vehicles out there.

The Dow is dragged down by it’s own makeup. GE, GM, Citi, BofA etc.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 8:20 PM | Link to this

Paul

Took me a minute…

Rosemary’s Pork’s Reprieve!

Turns out she was too cold in the center.

Salad’s tonight, Rosemary tomorrow.

Mr. G - not a happy camper. Gonna’ have to make Zillette #2 come and make mashed potatoes tomorrow or I’ll be washing the truck.

By getalife

February 10, 2009 8:24 PM | Link to this

@@,

Somebody finally said what happened

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 8:26 PM | Link to this

Mrs.Godzilla, this one was funny.

Today, I was eating ice cream and I noticed some on my jeans so I wiped it off with my finger and licked it. It was bird $hit. FML

By Bud Wiser

February 10, 2009 8:30 PM | Link to this

Well, it certainly didn’t take long for the sh!t to hit the fan from one of Duhblama’s tax cheaters that got confirmed:

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent

WASHINGTON – On a single day filled with staggering sums, the Obama administration, Federal Reserve and Senate attacked the deepening economic crisis Tuesday with actions that could throw as much as $3 trillion more in government and private funds into the fight against frozen credit markets and rising joblessness…

Separately, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner outlined plans for spending much of the $350 billion in financial bailout money recently cleared by Congress, and the Federal Reserve announced it would commit up to $1 trillion to make loans more widely available to consumers.

If I and many others like me decide to be tax cheats like Geithner and not pay taxes, or adopt the Rangel Rule and declare that taxes are not my obligation, then where are they going to get the money to finance these things?

You doe-eyed morons that voted for this shiny toothed despot and still pray for the day that you might touch his robes (or whatever), better start opening up your wallets instead of your mouths; and….HINT - it ain’t gonna be to put anything in it.

Peggy Joseph has to be desperately disappointed about now; and, did you see that po ole woman at BO’s press conference in Ft Myers this evening, crying about livin in her car, and using the bathroom in her car, along with all her little ones, and wuz begging the president,’ Please, can you help us?”

And what was BO’s response??? Something a lot like “Well, there a lot of people out there like you, and we’re going to help them all…”. Didn’t even offer her a house, or a car, or a job, not one dam thing! Can you believe that?? Is he a Republican, or what?

Hahahahahahaha

Suck on your change, and file today as just like yesterday, just like tomorrow.

Do you left wingnuts ever get, or are you just starting to feel like, you’re an occupant of the mushroom factory? You know, kept in the dark and covered with sh!t, along with thousands, yes MILLIONS of others just like you that voted for this socialist?

Hahahahahahaha

By AmVet

February 10, 2009 8:31 PM | Link to this

True, RW.

And go back another decade the return is about 250%

America’s not gonna roll over and die from this “sustained orgy of excess and reckless behavior”, but there is no doubt this is different. And like nothing none of us have ever seen.

The crooks and swindlers have perfected their art and a whole new generation of Americans are gonna pay for a national debt that has doubled in eight years and now stands at a staggering $10,000,000,000,000. A 53 year high.

The D word is not far from a lot of lips I suppose.

I wonder if the recruiters are digging all of this?

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 8:36 PM | Link to this

How about a Dow Bottom Pool?

RW, AmVET, DB, TN, @@, Paul, Commie, Andy, Midori, Goldie, Taxpayer, Getalife…..anybody who is sportier than me…..

Y’all must how how to do that. Ten bucks a box…. Send it to Jay. Winner takes all or we can do it for charity.

Hell,I got 10 bucks to play with.

5600 before the end of the year.

By @@

February 10, 2009 8:36 PM | Link to this

(((I caught sight of the name Strafor while scanning tonights posts, that’s all. Nothing personal. I did say you got your money’s worth.)))

Sure you did Mrs. Godzilla….

and you expect me to believe THAT?

No can do.

You need to go back up and read your own post. If YOU can convince yourself that it was intended as you NOW say then you’re dumber that the post itself.

I can, however, assure you no personal offense was taken on my part. Just curious was all.

By Midori

February 10, 2009 8:41 PM | Link to this

did Commie just say that he eats sh*t?

By rcs

February 10, 2009 8:42 PM | Link to this

How about a Dow Bottom Pool?

I’m in. 5250

By getalife

February 10, 2009 8:43 PM | Link to this

Mrs G,

That is not a good idea because there are welchers among us.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 8:43 PM | Link to this

Mrs, G,

You’re making assumptions that the DOW makeup will even be the same by the end of the year. BofA and Chevron were just added last February. Kraft was dumped in there on September 22nd last year, just in time for the meltdown.

Maybe somebody thought we needed snacks as things were going south.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 8:51 PM | Link to this

@@

i just not comfortable with global intelligence marketed like people magazine.

i’m sorry if you think i mean that as an attack on you.

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 8:54 PM | Link to this

Midori, my remarks about bird $hit are from a website I sent Mrs. G. Its a site with crazy comments about screwed up things that happen to people. I just posted one of them. Not me. Check it out because it’s pretty funny. The site posting is an hour or so back.

By AJC/DNC Management

February 10, 2009 8:54 PM | Link to this

Duhzilla: 6895

Where do I send the ten spot.

I see that the whiners don’t even understand the meaning of welch, duh.

But they still whine anyway.

By Midori

February 10, 2009 8:55 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

and belchers too.

Hi Bud!!

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 8:56 PM | Link to this

RW

No asumptions.

Flat out what the DOW closes at the last trading day of the year.

THE DOW BOTTOM POOL

Mrs. Godzilla 5600

rcs 5250

I guess we should ask JAY BOOKMAN if he’ll hold the cash.

Anybody else in?

By Frederick Douglass

February 10, 2009 8:56 PM | Link to this

To Dusty @ 5:20, if Obama in deed promised the moon,wouldn’t he need a little more than 14 working days to travel 476,000 miles round trip to bring it back to us?

By AJC/DNC Management

February 10, 2009 8:58 PM | Link to this

By the way, Bookman posted ♥ for our brave soldiers today-

{{{{More blame U.S. and coalition forces for poor targeting than blame the Taliban for keeping assets among civilians (41 percent to 28 percent); 27 percent said both sides shared the blame.}}}}

He polled al Qaeda, the head choppers and the tallyban.

Wonderful, wasn’t it?

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this

ANDY

If Jay’s out for the night I’ll send an e-mail tomorrow and ask if he’ll hold the $$$. If not we’ll have to be creative.

Mrs.G 5600

rcs 5250

Andy 6895

By Midori

February 10, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this

heck, Mrs. G - you can count me in :)

Commie: my suspicions are confirmed; you’re one sick puppy.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 9:04 PM | Link to this

Midori

I need a number…..please m’am.

are we agreed on 10 bucks each?

we have to get the other regulars too.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 9:04 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

If you’re going to do this you need to decide if you’re picking a bottom or a year end close. You started off saying you’re picking a bottom, but all the picks have sounded more like a close and the bottom could come at any time the rest of the year. It could even be today.

By @@

February 10, 2009 9:06 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

(((Somebody finally said what happened.)))

And as I recall, Obama was talking about “the worst financial crisis since THE GREAT DEPRESSION in mid-September.

Hmmmmm…wonder what provoked that run on the banks?

If you remember, I wasn’t a big fan of Paulson’s hysteria either.

Mrs. G:

I don’t have much confidence in the news (DailyKossacks) marketed by some hedgehog like Soros either.

Like I said — I’m not offended.

George Friedman with his PhD in GeoPolitical Science has been both critical and complimentary to Bush as well as Obama.

No bias! That’s the big difference between my sources and yours.

You’re free to make your choice towards biased info.

No skin off my nose, Pinocchio.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 9:08 PM | Link to this

Good PointRW

It should be the lowest close between today and the last business day of 2009.

Whaddya’ think?

By Midori

February 10, 2009 9:10 PM | Link to this

$10 it is.

6444

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 9:11 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

I think it should be the lowest close for the rest of 2009.

By Greg Mendel

February 10, 2009 9:12 PM | Link to this

The wingnuts have finally convinced me. Obama is a loser. Let’s have George Bush back for another eight years. Bring him on!

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 9:12 PM | Link to this

@@*

no bias, no bull as campbell brown says

fair and balanced as fox says

i break the news as d l hughley says

no skin off my nose either snow white

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 9:16 PM | Link to this

RW

I don’t get the difference?

By @@

February 10, 2009 9:19 PM | Link to this

Damn! for 50 cents a day I could feed a family of four.

$10.00 would feed ‘em for 20 days.

Mrs. G:

My money can be put to better use, but Thanx for the offer?

Your thoughtfulness is sooooo appreciated.

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 9:26 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

You don’t get the difference between what? We both said the lowest close, although you said from today on and I would say from Friday the 13th on, but I also don’t think Jay B would be all that interested in putting his career on the line by using his employers property to facilitate an illegal gambling pool.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 9:27 PM | Link to this

@@

Yep, and if I win the pool i’ll send the money to Feed the Children.

I don’t much gamble, but every now and again you just gotta throw caution and ten bucks to the wind.

I guess I’m a silly old spendthrift.

By Mrs.Godzilla

February 10, 2009 9:30 PM | Link to this

RW

Seems our posts crossed.

I think today…right now….go with the whim.

If not Jay, we can be creative.

By AJC/DNC Management

February 10, 2009 9:30 PM | Link to this

Duhzilla: Is it the low for the year or the exact number of the close on the last day of the year?

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 9:35 PM | Link to this

Mrs G,

As a general rule I don’t gamble in the first place, but I would never gamble on a whim.

By getalife

February 10, 2009 9:37 PM | Link to this

@@,

I forgot to ask if Stratfor covered the meltdown globally?

By jon

February 10, 2009 9:38 PM | Link to this

“Overhaul and expansion” Expansion being the operative word. The Democrat solution - expansion of government and expansion of government spending. Expansion of government control of our lives. All this Fed money will come with many strings.

I have little confidence in Geithner. He’s not smart enough to do his taxes right.

The O-man has dropped the sheep’s clothing that he donned to con about 10% of the electorate (the swing he needed to win) and exposed himself as the tax and spend wolf that I tried to warn you all about.

Hang on folks - it’s going to be a rough road ahead.

By AJC/DNC Management

February 10, 2009 9:48 PM | Link to this

{{{{WASHINGTON, Feb 10 (Reuters) - Chiefs of the biggest U.S. banks said they have not used government bailout money for executive compensation, dividends or lobbying and are taking cuts in pay, according to copies of congressional testimonies obtained by Reuters on Tuesday.}}}}

Bwahahahahahahaha, oww!

Stop it!!!!

Oblahmi lied, CEO’s testified.

bwa

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 9:52 PM | Link to this

Midori, how, because I have a sense of humor? I guess I can assume that you never finished third grade and still live with your mother in her basement. Moron.

By TN Gelding

February 10, 2009 9:59 PM | Link to this

Are we better off than we were 10 years ago?

By @@

February 10, 2009 10:00 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Stratfor assesses all economies around the globe. It’s kinda nice to know that many of our global “competitors” (the pc word for enemies) are suffering worse, economically speaking, than we.

They’re limited in the damage they can inflict due to restricted funding. A silver lining in an otherwise dark cloud?

By GaLiberal

February 10, 2009 10:02 PM | Link to this

The stock market’s reaction was more to the layoff announcements yesterday and more bad news about massive losses by car makers (Nissan) in this case). I doubt seriously if people had time to digest what was being proposed for it to affect the stock market so drastically. That should come tomorrow. The fact is the Rethuglicons keep stalling the stimulus plant and that makes for uncertainty. The stock market does not like uncertainty.

It’s so sad the Rethuglicon butt-sniffers like AJC/DNC Management, Bud Wiser (an oxymoron), and CommunistAJC are so read to lie about anything just to make cheap partisan political points. The stock market is NOT the indicator of economic health, yet the Rethuglicons have lied so much that these butt-sniffers believe it’s true. The stock market. That’s all the Rethuglicons have. Lies and more lies. And the butt-sniffer faithful that will repeat them over and over.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And the stock market tanking again is living proof.

By Swami Dave

February 10, 2009 10:02 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately, tomorrow may indeed be another day, but if the administration and congressional Democrats continue on their currrent course of forcing through passage of the “stimulus” (actually, a spendulous) package and continue promoting big government-focused solutions to what are market challenges, then it is unlikely to be any different.

There is little about the currently fast-tracked legislation that addresses job creation or economic growth. It is actually about 40 years of liberal wish-list of spending thrown together and labelled “economic stimulus”.

Sadly, I do not think that we can expect anything different until we get some more “change” in Washington - specifically change in Congressional leadership (in less than 2 years) and -hopefully- change in the White House.

In the interim, I am sorry to say that the best thing for which we can probably hope is “gridlock”. If we cannot get the right policies from the current leadership, then getting nothing is better than wasting trillions doing the wrong thing!

-Swami Dave

By Chad Harris

February 10, 2009 10:03 PM | Link to this

Geithner is continuing the Rethuglican Deregulatioin that caused the current Depression that the Bookman Right Wingnutters think began on Jan. 20. It’s a little like having 10 puppies in the house who take a dump in every room and then one of the puppies walks up to you and says “why isin’t it immaculately clean.” The Bush deregulatory imbeciles made a mess that’s going to take all of Barack Obama and then Michelle Obama’s 4 year administrations to clean up.

It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. We will have long food lines and chaos in the streets.

Geithner is continuing his screwup ways of the past that ran Wall Street into the ground when he was in the New York fed bailing out AIG and letting Lehman fail.

Like the stupid Rethuglican administration that got us into this depression before him Geithner wants you to bend over, get your reeming and just trust the banks.

Geithner’s typical Rethuglican stupidity in his sketch because that’s all it is right now—I wouldn’t dignify it as a plan include:

Many in the administration including David Axelrod argued against this stupidity but Summers and Geithner two losers prevailed. And of course the thuglicans applauded because rethulicans want Bush failure to continue and as Jay Bookman said yesterday pretend disingenuously that it all began January 20 as if we had a trillion dollar surplus like we had when Clinton left instead of a multi-trillion dollar deficit from wood chop boy Chimpy Junya Dubya.

1) Banks aren’t required to replace the losers that ran them and the economy into the ground garunteeing that they will get your money to run them into the ground once again.

2) No accountability as to how they pi$$ away your money.

3) The Obama administration’s spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter spoke eloquently when she said “NO COMMENT.”

4)The $500,000 pay cap is limited to the few individuals who get millions in bonuses.

5) Not one word was uttered about limiting bonuses to banks who will take and use the money you need for your bills for their bonuses.

6) It is unknown whether banks will be required to write down the value of the trash mortgages and mortgage backed securities that are trash. Hedge fund managers are laughing at this naivity so they can help tank the economy even more.

No one knows what the values of these trashed mortgages and securities is and this will further force banks to sell them at rock bottom prices, helping them to fail with the money you need to pay your bills.

By Peter

February 10, 2009 10:17 PM | Link to this

Yes……..By @@

February 10, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

If I were talking to President Obama, I’d take a brief moment to remind him that it is THOSE WITH MONEY who drive the economic engine. They are to be appreciated, not punished.

That is how we got here in the first place GREED !

By Midori

February 10, 2009 10:21 PM | Link to this

Commie,

so that I’m straight about this: joking about eating bird feces is a sign of a healthy sense of humor?

ok — if you say so.

Time for me to hit the hay. Early meeting tomorrow.

Night, all.

By @@

February 10, 2009 10:26 PM | Link to this

Peter:

As it stands now, you can’t argue with the realities. Nationalizing all business would put the money in the hands of the most greedy and unethical bunch I can imagine…

politicians.

Say hello to Hugo whydon’tcha?

No dissent allowed in Venezuela, mind you. He’s locking up college students left and right ‘cause they’re protesting his constitutional amendment which would allow him to rule for-evah.

I’m off to snuggle.

By Chad Harris

February 10, 2009 10:27 PM | Link to this

Is there any good news?

A little.

The Rethuglican Drill Baby Drill was reversed yesterday by Secretary of Energy Ken Salazar who revoked the last minute Chimpy Junya executive order to increase off shore drilling.

Drilling off the Atlantic and Pacific Coasts has been halted extending the commenting period for 6 months on the Exec Order and resulting CFR.

The Anthrax and biologicals lab that was the alleged source of the anthrax mailings in the US announced they were shutting down because they have no clue where their biologicals are or what their scientists are even working on.

As a result of the anthrax attacks, the number of labs working on anthrax expanded almost ten-fold, from roughly 24 to 219, and CDC says that under the Bushie clusterfook the number of registered anthrax investigators increased from 219 prior to 2001 to 10,474 people registered to dangerous toxins including anthrax. How ‘bout that kitchen or basement next door to you?

Sarah “ah can see mah wardrobe with other people’s money from Alaska’s” attorney general and old friend is being forced to resign taking the blame for moroncuda’s witness tampering in Troopergate.

Palin is now offering to trade mone for Senate President Gary Steven’s district to have him forget investigating

a) the termination of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan,

b) the stymying of the Branchflower Investigation, or,

c) the Petumenos Investigation - particularly with the Palins’ deposition

By RW-(the original)

February 10, 2009 10:27 PM | Link to this

CommunistAJC,

You should probably know that one of Midori’s favorite nicknames is The Parrot, so don’t push her on the bird dropping thing.

By Peter

February 10, 2009 10:27 PM | Link to this

Morons…….the last time Americans looked the ” WAR” has cost the US Trillions and gained what ?

Don’t tell me for a moment we are safer because we attacked IRAQ !

If anything we are a poorer nation because of the Policies of King BUSH………. being poor doesn’t mean we are safe……..this is a train wreck, and cutting taxes is not the answer.

By Chad Harris

February 10, 2009 10:55 PM | Link to this

Petraeus and Ordierno moved to undermine Obama’s withdrawal efforts if there are any today.

US: Petraeus Leaked Misleading Story on Pullout Plans

“The real story of the leak by Petraeus is that the most powerful figure in the U.S. military has tried to shape the media coverage of Obama and combat troop withdrawal from Iraq to advance his policy agenda - and, very likely, his personal political interests as well.

By implying that Obama had requested the three plans without saying so explicitly, the sentence leaked by Petraeus seems to have been calculated to create a misleading story.”

By Spartacus

February 10, 2009 11:23 PM | Link to this

“Today, the new US administration can disown responsibility for its inheritance; tomorrow, it will own it. Today, it can offer solutions; tomorrow it will have become the problem.”

Remember this for the 2010 elections. Enjoy the “short” ride Dimwits

By p-nut gallery

February 10, 2009 11:42 PM | Link to this

chad.

tell us a joke.

chad.

please?

pretty please?

By Chad Harris

February 11, 2009 12:13 AM | Link to this

LOL enjoy the short ride. As if the dead thuglicans had any dead man walking who could carry more than a few Redneck poorly educated states like Jaw jaw.

The rethuglican candidates are as dimwitted as Bookman’s wingnuters who have no ideas, don’t read, and are sentenced to eight year term after eight year term for the rest of their lives of coming here and pitching $hit.

By p-nut gallery

February 11, 2009 12:37 AM | Link to this

man, that’s a knee slapper if I ever heard one.

whatever chh ha- fatbellied, pussication of america.

By Chad Harris

February 11, 2009 1:01 AM | Link to this

How about the knee slapper that the current Bush depression began with Obama on 1/20/09 and had nothing to do with the deregulation morons that ran this country’s economic architecture during the Greenspan deregulation years.

Ole Bushie really economically clusterf*cked things up. He makes Hoover look like a chiorboy.

Bush made sure you ain’t never gettin’ control of the House, Senate or White House and it drive you nuts doesn’t it. Keep up the airbrained comments because they are represenatative of why only the base votes Rethuglican and they’re caving in.

Wasn’t that future Presidential candidate Charlie Crist hugging Obama this morning and Florida treating him like a rock star? You think those pics were photoshopped?

Not one Rethuglican governor is against the stim bill. Sonny fat man is completely silent. He doesn’t dare open his mouth.

LOL

By p-nut gallyery

February 11, 2009 1:07 AM | Link to this

hey chad,

why is the dirty south, so dirty?

By Chad Harris

February 11, 2009 1:27 AM | Link to this

The Rethuglican 2012 campaign theme song:

South so dirty? Bathing hasn’t been learned along with just about anything else. Doesn’t dirty mean choke as in Falcons=Dirty Birds?

By Chad Harris

February 11, 2009 2:23 AM | Link to this

Israel has an election that will ensure that Al Franken is both the new PM of Israel and the 59th Senatuh in the US Senate. Franken will jet set back and forth between Israel and the US and says he could always see Israel from both Minneapolis and the Upper West Side of Manhatten.

By p-nut gallery

February 11, 2009 2:38 AM | Link to this

ajc censors conservatives

By TN Gelding

February 11, 2009 3:11 AM | Link to this

What about appointing Kenneth Starr or Bob Barr to investigate Bush/Cheney?

By AJC/DNC Management

February 11, 2009 5:39 AM | Link to this

Let’s distract attention, let’s distract attention-

{{{{Defense Secretary Robert Gates ordered a review Tuesday of a Pentagon policy banning media from taking pictures of flag-draped coffins of military dead, signaling he was open to overturning the policy to better honor fallen soldiers. Obama told reporters Monday he was reviewing the ban.-Urinal/Jihad}}}}

Oh good, the liberals wanna hang some dead bodies from the bridge.

Well, actually, they are trying to throw out the really psychotic and mundane fever swamp conspiracy theories so that they can get the kult to stop paying attention to what a stone cold, total failure that baraKKK really, uh, is.

“Investigate” Bushie?

How about investigating the tax status of the remaining members of the demokkkrat caucus?

Or investigating all of Northern Illinois?

hopeandchange.duh

By Bud Wiser

February 11, 2009 7:14 AM | Link to this

As the usual liberal tool, Lady Chadderly spends all night on the computer lamenting all things Republican, and all things Bush.

Well now, knowing who had a part in putting us where we are right now is sort of like, well, beating the dead and rotting corpse of the horse. It really shows a lot of intelligence to look backwards and come up with your own interpretation of what has transpired, particularly when you conveniently forget such things as the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd,

Then, we see Geithner make his appearance at Congress yesterday, this ‘golden boy’, the man we had to have right now because he was so smart about economics, the tax cheat confirmation. So what do we see? An apparent graduate of the Obama School of Dumbology, he says nothing new, except that now instead of a trillion dollars to throw at this problem, we may nee 3 trillion dollars. Wow, that’s a new and fresh idea! Bury the problem under mountain ranges of debt! I never could have thought of that one! He is so smart, so wise!

The Dow loved it! A 400+ point drop in one day.

Your boy Obama’s idea of repairing a sinking ship is apparently to blow a huge hole in the bottom of it to let the water drain out. The Democrats in Congress are drooling so much over these dollar amounts that they are wearing life preservers while in the Chambers; of course the life preservers are for them, and the preservation of their cash accounts, assets, government pay, etc.

If things keep going the way they are, these morons better start thinking about that bunker that was built for them all years back to sustain them through a possible nuclear attack, because I smell [revolution]{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts0 in te air.

Oh, and lastly, you left wingnuts just go ahead and keep congratulating yourselves on how smart you are for helping to elect the socialist overseer of the economic pilfering of your grandchild’s futures. With a bit of luck, perhaps you don’t have any, you know, helping to improve the overall human condition and gene pool by not reproducing….

By DB, Gwinnettian

February 11, 2009 7:21 AM | Link to this

Why do “conservatives” like the AJC’s Thomas Oliver want to re-inflate the housing bubble?

By DB, Gwinnettian

February 11, 2009 7:27 AM | Link to this

rcs way up top @ 8.05:

“That’s 1.66 trillion that came from the Pelosi/Reid congress.”

Just FYI—so long as GOPers continue trying to shift the entirety of blame to half of a legislative body, unable to pass legislation over a deadlocked Senate and a Presidential veto, you’ll not be taken seriously in these discussions.

By Concerned oldtimer

February 11, 2009 7:27 AM | Link to this

What is being done has been tried. The only hope of its success is WWII which saved Roosevelt. Reagan let the sysytem right itself and it did!!

By williebkind

February 11, 2009 7:32 AM | Link to this

My economic plan is to save my money. Plant a garden of vegies with lots of potatoes, squash, okra, tomatoes, and maybe some peas and beans. Dry some meat and make jerky. I will only have to spend money on power to my house. I will wait until after the ‘10 election and see if socialism takes hold. Oh yeah, I need to buy bullets for my rifles and pistols.

By Earl

February 11, 2009 7:32 AM | Link to this

I found one thing I like about Obama! He is, for sure…100% sure…. a one term President. No one seems to be impressed with him but democrats. Nuf said.

By john j

February 11, 2009 7:39 AM | Link to this

What to do? The Republicans made a mess of it and the Dems can’t clean it up. BO ran on the promise of change and has loaded up his advisors with the same old clowns. Geiter, “the only man for the job”. Let’s discet Mr. Geitner…… Head of the NY fed who had oversight for most of the major banks and wall street, doesn’t pay his taxes until he gets caught, anyone see a problem here?? Rham Emanuel…..Anyone from Chicago can tell you how he got elected. The head of Streets and Sanitation had his goons go door to door and tell people if they didn’t vote for Emanuel they would not have garbage pick up or snow removal, and oh by the way that guy is now in prison for fixing elections.
Tom Dasche……No taxes and a driver provided by the health care industry, another honest mistake no doubt.
A few years ago I made a mistake on my taxes and the letter I got from the IRS included a interest rate of 10% and substantial penalties. Since I paid my taxes I guess this would disqualify me from a position with Mr. Change. The list could go on and on and this is only the first month of his administration.
I wish BO and his team nothing but the best because that is the right thing to do for our country, my worry is that we elected another Jimmy Carter, great intentions with limited abilities to get the job done. And for those who think i am just bashing BO, I don’t have much faith in the other side of the isle either.
Can anyone say term limits !!!!!

By Barry

February 11, 2009 7:44 AM | Link to this

Hey Andy, Bud, et,al.: This a friend of yours?

By DB, Gwinnettian

February 11, 2009 7:50 AM | Link to this

Barry @ 7.44, who knows. Could just be a guy with some weapons in his truck. But yesterday I was wondering about the guy who penned this charming note. A likely friend of our right-wing regulars, in spirit at least.

Fun game—take large chunks of the Knoxville terrorist’s screed and try to find any daylight between what he’d written, and what’s typically posted online about “liberals” every day here. I sure can’t.

By DB, Gwinnettian

February 11, 2009 8:00 AM | Link to this

Clean sheets upstairs, folks.

By metoo

February 11, 2009 8:04 AM | Link to this

Sonny’s plan for the state is to close Georgia’s two year colleges. Reduce access to education in the 21 first century sounds like a brillant idea.

By Peadawg

February 11, 2009 8:05 AM | Link to this

GaLiberal: “When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And the stock market tanking again is living proof.”

Last time I checked, Democrats control everything. It used to get old, but I love correcting you all the time, so here it goes:

When you vote for Democrats, you vote against your own best interests. And the stock market tanking again is living proof.

Better??

By Barry

February 11, 2009 8:09 AM | Link to this

DB: Right down to the spelling errors. It would be funny, if it wasn’t so scary.

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 8:31 AM | Link to this

WOW!!!!I feel stimulated!!!My Bad no its’s just a sharp pain in my A*S. In the end(bad pun) it’ll all be same I’m afraid. Thanks Dems(and 3 misguided or paid off repubs), My children & their children, and their children thankyou.Who needs prosperity anyway!! Was’nt it our government who said the best way to get out of debt was to borrow against it-what a concept!

By Peter

February 11, 2009 8:38 AM | Link to this

What a bunch of NOTHING………….By @@

February 10, 2009 10:26 PM | Link to this

Peter:

As it stands now, you can’t argue with the realities. Nationalizing all business would put the money in the hands of the most greedy and unethical bunch I can imagine…

politicians.

HA HA HA……. gee the last time I looked not a Senator nor a Politician ever got a $20 Million dollar bonus, and Never Got Millions for running their country into the ground….well I have to say with exception of CHENEY ……… Yes he is the exception !

Greed it what Corporate executives are all about……they are more than willing to sell out their employees…….,IE…. ship jobs over seas, and cut employees to make huge bonus’s at the end of the year !

Make some sense here ….Please get real for a change !

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 8:44 AM | Link to this

Politicians have never got rich via there votes?ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!

By Peter

February 11, 2009 8:47 AM | Link to this

Hey ………..By @@

February 10, 2009 10:26 PM | Link to this

Peter

As it stands now, you can’t argue with the realities. Nationalizing all business would put the money in the hands of the most greedy and unethical bunch I can imagine…

politicians.

Get you confused head out of the sand …………..

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo accused Merrill Lynch & Co. executives of corporate irresponsibility by secretly and prematurely awarding $3.6 billion in bonuses as taxpayers were bailing out the industry.

“In a surprising fit of corporate irresponsibility, it appears that, instead of disclosing their bonus plans in a transparent way as requested by my office, Merrill Lynch secretly moved up the planned date to allocate bonuses and then richly rewarded their failed executives,” Cuomo stated.

“Merrill Lynch had never before awarded bonuses at such an early date, and this timetable allowed Merrill to dole out huge bonuses ahead of their awful fourth quarter earnings announcement and before the planned takeover of Merrill by Bank of America,” Cuomo said in the letter.

Cuomo said Bank of America, whose deal to acquire Merrill closed at the end of the fourth quarter, was apparently complicit in the move to award bonuses before Merrill’s fourth quarter earnings were announced. The Democrat surmised that Bank of America must have been aware that Merrill Lynch’s fourth quarter and yearly earnings were “disastrous.”

Bank of America spokesman Scott Silvestri issued a statement that Merrill Lynch was an independent company when its compensation committee approved the bonuses, many of which he said were contractually guaranteed.

Cuomo said four executives alone received bonuses totaling $121 million.

Yes this is not the behavior of Politicians……. only the behavior of REPUBLICAN’S !

By GaLiberal

February 11, 2009 8:56 AM | Link to this

PULLED:

GaLib, no personal attacks. Debate, do not insult.

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 8:57 AM | Link to this

Looks like a Great day to play “The Blame Game”!! As stated many times by many people,there’s enough blame on all sides to go arround.But if your willing to at least admit that,intelligent conversations are moot!

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 8:57 AM | Link to this

Looks like a Great day to play “The Blame Game”!! As stated many times by many people,there’s enough blame on all sides to go arround.But if your not willing to at least admit that,intelligent conversations are moot!

By Peadawg

February 11, 2009 9:04 AM | Link to this

“Peadawg the pea-brained” “Rethuglicon butt-sniffer”

What grade are we in GaLiberal…2nd? Someone needs to tell your mommy you’re using her computer again.

By GaLiberal

February 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this

PULLED, as a personal attack:

Ga. Lib, more debate, less insult.

— Jay

By Dave

February 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this

Democrats want to keep on blaming Bush, well it wasn’t Bush that caused the market to plunge 400 points yesterday. Time to wake up Dem’s, you are now the cause of all future economic problems and have been since November.

By Dave

February 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this

Democrats want to keep on blaming Bush, well it wasn’t Bush that caused the market to plunge 400 points yesterday. Time to wake up Dem’s, you are now the cause of all future economic problems and have been since November.

By Peadawg

February 11, 2009 9:09 AM | Link to this

You have a Democrat in office Democrats have majority in the House and Senate.

That would be controlling everything.

The stock market tanking shows how much faith they have in the porkulus package Obama is trying to put through.

By Peter

February 11, 2009 9:17 AM | Link to this

Dave……More baloney………By Dave

February 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this

Democrats want to keep on blaming Bush, well it wasn’t Bush that caused the market to plunge 400 points yesterday. Time to wake up Dem’s, you are now the cause of all future economic problems and have been since November.

Yes……..They are not responsible for the WAR’S either and the multi Trillion Dollar debt America has of course…..George Bush and Darth Vader Cheney was not running the country the previous 8 years……..right into the ground !

By CommunistAJC

February 11, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this

Midori, one, the conversation was between Mrs. G and I, not you. Two, you’re still a complete moron for not understanding WHERE I got the comment from. Twice did I point you in the direction of where I got the comment from. Shove off!

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 9:24 AM | Link to this

Peter-A brain is terrible thing to waste!!!But I’m sure this is’nt the 1st time you’ve heard that!!! This mess we’re all in, did’nt just start with Bush/Cheyney!! Good God People!! as much as you hate Bush, He is’nt responsible for everything. Please do research and you might just LEARN something!

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 9:28 AM | Link to this

GO Commie-Go Commie

By Peter

February 11, 2009 9:57 AM | Link to this

Republican Mantra = Start a War, build up Trillions of dollars in debt, rip off American’s while doing so, and having Zero answers on how to fix the problems they created !

Yes….. Bush is not responsible for ALL……just the major issues !

By Mogambo Guru

February 11, 2009 10:10 AM | Link to this

She said “RUN THE GOVERNMENT” HAHAHAHAH! That’s a good one. Never mind “running” a household or a business and how difficult that can be. The federal Government must be “RUN”.

It must manage 300 million people and 60 trillion of unfunded debt obligations and a world empire and tell us what to do and how to do it so we don’t all screw it up for ourselves.

the Government must be RUN!!! And politicians are just the folks to do it, no matter who’s up there on that Hill. Forget the private individual. They’re just Wall Street crooks and Welfare mothers who can’t control themselves. They’re hopeless and must be controlled.

By Hip Hopcracy

February 11, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this

9/11 happened 9 months into Bush’s presidency and conservatives blamed Clinton. BO enters office in January 2009 amidst a free-falling economy and the right wingers immediately blame him for the woes of our society.

I love the way you folks cherry-pick who’s to blame when your beloved Republican Party held Congress for 12 years and the presidency for 8, and you STILL didn’t pass the measures you’ve been whining about for time immemorial.

By oldmac

February 11, 2009 10:27 AM | Link to this

All Geitner said was “Ask me later.” First rule, don’t say anything til’ you have something to say.

Sounds like Obie didn’t like his plan-(maybe too free market friendly) so they had him “punt” until he came around to the “all liberal, all the time” thought process.

BN

By Fred

February 11, 2009 10:31 AM | Link to this

Eight people arrested in connection to Phelps bong picture

This is a good start. Can’t have these sickening shenanigans going on. It’s critical that what are ultimately insignificant events be made into crusades. Crusades translate into control and are vital to the security of the state apparatus.

So mind your P’s and Q’s people. And pay your taxes or WE WILL COME AFTER YOU. WERE THE GOVERNMENT AND WERE HERE TO HELP. And save you from yourself.

PS Better liquidate those IRA now because taxes will be 75% in 20 years.

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this

Hip-You and Peter must have gone to the same “drink the Kool-Aid, I Love any Democrat,Talking point Class”!!!! Seems the very things you acuse the right of, is exactly what your doing. How far back do’es one need to go to find blame. Find something new to blame Bush for,cuz these are tired,old, & inaccurate. But don’t let the truth get in the way of making your case.

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 10:58 AM | Link to this

To hear some,the whole world fell apart without anyone noticing in an eight year span. Either the previous administration was very coy/sly to pool the wool over everone’s eye’s as they destroyed the worlds economy or we had some very stupid people in the house & senate.Which do you prefer? I tend to believe that alot of people are to blame whether they be on the left or the right. Now we,generations to follow will have to pay for there sins.

By GaLiberal

February 11, 2009 11:14 AM | Link to this

By GaLiberal

February 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this

PULLED, as a personal attack:

Ga. Lib, more debate, less insult.

— Jay

Hey Jay. Did you both to pull BOTH posts about my mother mated with a yak? NOPE. Talk about insult. Double standard at work here? If you want to moderate, fine, but do it equatibaly. I don’t consider my post insulting in any way. At least no more than the insults they sling at me.

By GaLiberal

February 11, 2009 11:14 AM | Link to this

By GaLiberal

February 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this

PULLED, as a personal attack:

Ga. Lib, more debate, less insult.

— Jay

Hey Jay. Did you both to pull BOTH posts about my mother mated with a yak? NOPE. Talk about insult. Double standard at work here? If you want to moderate, fine, but do it equatibaly. I don’t consider my post insulting in any way. At least no more than the insults they sling at me.

By GaLiberal

February 11, 2009 11:17 AM | Link to this

Hey Jay: Here’s another PERSONAL ATTACK you failed to pull:

**By CommunistAJC

February 11, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this

Midori, one, the conversation was between Mrs. G and I, not you. Two, you’re still a complete moron for not understanding WHERE I got the comment from. Twice did I point you in the direction of where I got the comment from. Shove off!**

Standby, Jay. I’ll find lots more by these Rethuglicon butt-lickers.

By JAY BOOKMAN

February 11, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this

Lib, if I hadn’t denied myself the use of the five-letter “W” word that ryhmes with fine, I might be tempted to use it now to describe your behavior. Get over it and move on.

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this

Galib-I love the butt-lickers line!-boy thats not to offensive!

By caz1158

February 11, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this

Jay-Truthfully,what is your take on the stim/package? And your opinion on aprox time for any results to be noticed. I truly am interested in your thoughts.

By @@

February 11, 2009 6:10 PM | Link to this

There was so much conversation upstairs about this thread I just had to check in.

GaLiberal said: “Hey Jay. Did you both to pull BOTH posts about my mother mated with a yak? NOPE. Talk about insult. Double standard at work here? If you want to moderate, fine, but do it equatibaly. I don’t consider my post insulting in any way. At least no more than the insults they sling at me.”

then comes back with a “attack” on Midori as an example?

GaLiberal said: “Hey Jay: Here’s another PERSONAL ATTACK you failed to pull:”

“Midori, one, the conversation was between Mrs. G and I, not you. Two, you’re still a complete moron for not understanding WHERE I got the comment from. Twice did I point you in the direction of where I got the comment from. Shove off!**”

You didn’t really go to bed, did you Midori?

Probably missed that “early meeting”, too.

It’s not even Friday and you’ve lost your grip on the bottle.

Tsk, tsk, tsk…