Jay Bookman

By RW-(the original)

February 9, 2009 11:52 AM | Link to this

So if your latest poll is accurate why is Obama out wasting our tax dollars trying to sell this boondoggle?

By AJC/DNC Management

February 9, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

So why are you libs whining?

You got your 3 RINOs, pass the bill.

If it is such a great idea, what are you worried about?

Hmmmm?

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 11:58 AM | Link to this

BOOKMAN FAILS TO INFORM US OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE POLLED.

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,018 national adults, aged 18 and older.

SO, 1018 ADULTS ARE REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION? GOOD JOB HACK BOOKMAN.

BOOKMAN=CANCELED SUBSCRIPTIONS

By Paul

February 9, 2009 11:59 AM | Link to this

Jay

It’ll be interesting if the public does a split on support for Democrat President Obama and Democratic Congress.

I looked at Gallup and Rasmussen this morning - I thought the following pertinent to this discussion (Gallup)

Slimmed-Down Alternative Garners Less Support

A bipartisan group of centrist senators is attempting to increase support for the legislation by shaving some of the more controversial spending items from the current set of proposals. Estimates of how much trimming will take place vary, but Gallup finds 48% in favor of a smaller stimulus package that would cut the size of the original bill by up to $200 billion.

48 percent favor, 41 percent oppose, 11 percent no opinion

When combining respondents’ views on the two questions, Gallup finds 72% of Americans in favor of at least one of the plans, including 27% who favor both plans, 24% who favor only the larger proposal, and 21% who favor only the smaller proposal. Thus, public support for some type of stimulus — regardless of the specific dollar amount — is high.

Analysis by party affiliation and harmonizing the different data sets is here

Link: Gallup Poll Results on Economic Stimulus

By TN Gelding

February 9, 2009 12:01 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

You’re right. He needs to ground AF1, or reassign it to ferry troops to the “war” zones.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:03 PM | Link to this

JOKE, if the stimulus plan is so great and “most” American people are taking the democrats side, PASS IT! PASS THE BILL AND SHUT UP ABOUT IT, JAY! You and the socialist dems don’t need to do polls, right? I mean PresHussein is the messiah and knows all! PASS THE BILL AND SHUT UP!

By AJC/DNC Management

February 9, 2009 12:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{Rasmussen’s release of a poll showing more Americans oppose the Democratic proposal than support it set off what seemed like a renewed sense of confidence among GOP members.}}}}

{{{{CBS Poll: Support For Stimulus Falls}}}}

{{{{A Gallup poll released Tuesday finds a strong majority of Americans want Congress to pass some form of stimulus, but have severe doubts about the measures currently being considered to boost the economy.}}}}

So baraKKK scores some points for whining.

It still doesn’t help your dog stimulus bill hunt.

Boo hoo hoo, Oblahmi.

By fed up

February 9, 2009 12:06 PM | Link to this

Ditto on RW @ 11:52….and once again I’m not RW incognito. :)

By Bubba

February 9, 2009 12:08 PM | Link to this

FDR: The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Obama: A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe.

By Paul

February 9, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this

CommunistAJC

[[SO, 1018 ADULTS ARE REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION? GOOD JOB HACK BOOKMAN.]]

This point regularly comes up. You may want to consider taking a stat course or reading up on sample sizes, confidence levels and confidence intervals.

Here’s a fun sample size calculator to illustrate the point

Link: Survey calculator

By fed up

February 9, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this

Ditto on RW @ 11:52….and once again I’m not RW incognito. :)

By RW-(the original)

February 9, 2009 12:16 PM | Link to this

Gelding,

Not only is he out wasting our money to sell this crap sandwich that Jay B thinks is so wonderful, he’s in Elkhart Indiana because the unemployment is so high there. Elkhart is where most of the RV’s in this country are/were made. Does he really think resurrecting the RV industry is a good idea? He better run that one by Manbearpig.

By the way, he’s speaking now and it’s all fear all the time.

Obama Motto: The only thing to fear is not enough fear.

By JAY BOOKMAN

February 9, 2009 12:16 PM | Link to this

Commie, that’s how EVERY poll is conducted.

Weren’t you the guy who complained the other day about a poll of 30,000 respondents?

Gee, take a basic statistics course, would you?

By fed up

February 9, 2009 12:17 PM | Link to this

You’re right bubba in his inaugural address it was hope and change, 3 weeks later it’s doom and gloom. What happened….scare tactic to get bill passed? I don’t know but it’s definately a mixed message and doesn’t help consumer confidence which does help drive the economy.

By One Voice

February 9, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this

Communist AJC quote: “BOOKMAN FAILS TO INFORM US OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE POLLED.

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,018 national adults, aged 18 and older.

SO, 1018 ADULTS ARE REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION? GOOD JOB HACK BOOKMAN.”

Once again, communist, some real coursework would have helped you out. There’s something called a statistical analysis that is used in all social sciences. They take the numbers they have based on a given sample and run them through a computer program like SPSS to figure out how representative they are of the entire population. It’s really not that complicated and it works. That’s why the polls leading up to the election in November were so accurate- statistical analysis. Back to school Mr. MBA. lol!

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this

Paul, got a A- in statistics. Sorry Paul, but POLLS are a different subject. What questions were asked? How were they skewed? How many democrats and republicans were asked these questions?

By williebkind

February 9, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this

Hey conservatives! Those are some really sound posts with back up support. Thanks for that!

I sure do Mrs G. and her left winb biased support links. Reckon she will shup to straighton us out?

By CommyAJC = DummyAJC

February 9, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this

Way to show your ignorance, CommyAJC!!!

If you knew anything about statistics, you’d know 1,000+ is a more than legitimate sample size.

Keep up the yelling, dude. Those of us with brains are getting a good laugh!

By THERESE PERSAUD

February 9, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this

After all is said and done a number of posters don’t want the working poor poor to have a decent life ..Check out Economics 101 and update your knowledgs!!!

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:20 PM | Link to this

Paul, also, how many illegal aliens were a part of this “poll?”

By williebkind

February 9, 2009 12:20 PM | Link to this

Hey conservatives! Those are some really sound posts with back up support. Thanks for that!

I sure do miss Mrs G. and her left wing biased support links. Reckon she will show up to straighton us out?

By Terrill

February 9, 2009 12:22 PM | Link to this

According to Rasmussen, 62% Want Stimulus Plan to Have More Tax Cuts, Less Spending. Is the PrezBO there yet? HELL NO, and he being a dem never will be. I say sign the dem party’s death certificate. Let’s get ‘er done already. The strong will survive and the weak will find out just how miserable life can be when the politicians take control.

By DB, Gwinnettian

February 9, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this

Poor RW.

I take it you didn’t get the second interview for AJC’s Wingnut Columnist Contest?

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:25 PM | Link to this

JAY BOOKMAN, Gee, I took and did very well in statistics. Care to compare grade point averages, Bookman? And also my absent minded comrade, I remember correcting my error. I might also add, I remember calling you out on a flat out lie just a week ago that you never responded to. Remember BOOKMAN? The post about you calling me a liar about “persecution” when it was you who brought up the word? Hypocrite.

One Voice, Um, you do know that polling data is SKEWED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER DON’T YOU? I will ask you the same question I asked the hack journalist. CARE TO COMPARE GPA’S? LOL

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this

CommyAJC = DummyAJC, seriously, I do believe you are either illiterate or just stupid. Did I not say that the poll left out how many democrats and how many republicans were asked these questions? Yep. Did I also ask what kinds of questions were asked? Yep.

By Daryl at DFACS

February 9, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this

Please don’t procreate, CommyAJC.

Thanks, Daryl

By david wayne osedach, san diego/ U.S.A.

February 9, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

It is clearly time to give Obama a chance. At the worst his stimulus plan will do (absolutely) nothing - just like Bush’s.

By Paul

February 9, 2009 12:31 PM | Link to this

CommunistAJC

I suggested stat as a fundamental understanding of terms and concepts is essential. Glad to hear you’ve taken the course. And you’re correct, polling is not the same, but it is dependent upon stats.

The questions you raise have to do with the subpopulations, their expected divergence from the general population, their distribution and inclusion in the sample size.

Generally speaking, professional organizations like Gallup and Rasmussen do a pretty good job. Even they treat results such as the ones Jay cited as different (and more accurate than) say, ‘exit’ polling.

Another key factor is that these polls describe the public - and as we’ve seen, support or opposition on any given subject can vary pretty wildly over time. That’s why the time frame is so important and Jay regularly cites comparative data from one period to another.

So I think it’s safe to say, most Americans want some kind of a stimulus package regardless of cost, support varies by party affiliation as President Obama is viewed more favorably on this matter than either Congressional Democrats or Republicans.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this

Daryl at DFACS, sure thing Bookman, I mean Daryl.

By DB, Gwinnettian

February 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this

CommunistAJC, care to explain how a for-profit corporation is “Communist?”

Care to explain why you choose to nitpick about sample sizes on polls whose results you don’t like? Why you, with that thar Em Bee Ay from the Duke, seem clueless about statistical margins of error and what they mean?

And can you do this without the usual “Ah’m Edjumacated Gooder than you!!!” business?

Thank you.

By Joe

February 9, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this

Commie,

I hold a degree in Mathematics with a statistics concentration (I also have a minor in Classical studies) from a top school.

You’re wrong.

Want to compare schools AND GPAs?

By Midori

February 9, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

Communist,

you have a lot of anger management issues, don’t you?

By WildBill

February 9, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

Your poll is laughable. Did you go to southside Atlanta and poll 12 people or did you just make up this bs as most of us think you did?

By fed up

February 9, 2009 12:35 PM | Link to this

what is the 12:19 p.m. post supposed to say’/mean???

By Paul

February 9, 2009 12:36 PM | Link to this

Communist

You did raise a good point about wording of questions. Was listening this weekend to a guy who’s in the business - has written a book called “words matter” or some such, and he made the point:

If you use the word “spending” people are turned off.

If you say “stimulus” you have support.

Same concept, different reactions from the very same people. Explains why Dems and Reps use the language they do.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:36 PM | Link to this

Joe, What I find funny is in the past 20 minutes, new “bloggers” have shown up that have never been here before. Are you Bookman, or maybe someone at the AJC? Yes Joe, let’s compare GPA’s. Also, what am I wrong about?

By Clayton County Schools spokesperson

February 9, 2009 12:38 PM | Link to this

Yes, CommyAJC excelled in our statistics curriculum (with the customary 40-point grading curve, of course).

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:39 PM | Link to this

DB, Gwinnettian, My blog handle has to do more with Jay Bookmans leanings than the entire AJC. Maybe I should change it to CommunistBookman or something. Anyway, the reason I nitpick this particular poll and many other polls is because journalist, like Bookman, do not conduct their own research and therefore rely on faulty polls to tell them how to write their propaganda. Make fun of my MBA all you want DB, Gwinnettian because I’m living pretty well off of it. What school did you earn your masters or PHD from?

Thank you.

By Taxpayer

February 9, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this

Joe,

Many, including myself, have called out Commie and other followers of the Limbaugh faith but to no avail. The cowards scurry away at the very prospect of illumination.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:43 PM | Link to this

Midori, just fed up with propaganda and bad journalist. Not angry. Thanks for asking.

Paul, that was my whole point. The wording of a question can skew the outcome of any person in a survey. Look at this way, basic colors can change a persons mood. Hospitals are painted a certain way, restaurants use certain colors to invoke hunger. Anyway, thanks for the post.

Clayton County Schools spokesperson, again, new blogger with no substance. I actually graduated from a certain school in the Dunwoody area. Thanks for assuming the worst, comrade.

By AJC/DNC Management

February 9, 2009 12:44 PM | Link to this

{{{{By DB, Gwinnettian February 9, 2009 12:32 PM CommunistAJC, care to explain how a for-profit corporation is “Communist?”}}}}

Commie seems to have his hands full at the moment, so allow me to help out-

DB: Care to explain why the raise your taxes democrats don’t pay their taxes?

Don’t worry, I just answered your question for you.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:45 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, what is your sexual fascination with Limbaugh? I mean, you and Bookman talk about this guy so I’m left to assume that you want to take a hot bath with him. Coward? We are on a blog, moron. Why, would you like to meet face to face to discuss this more?

By Mr. Snarky

February 9, 2009 12:46 PM | Link to this

Why would Americans choose the congressional republicans? They’re a bunch of idiots playing chicken with the economy. I think they’re with Rush Limbaugh hoping Obama fails and they get to pick up the pieces…not that they would know what to do. They’re back to doing what they’re best at: whining and complaining. Governing was never their strong suit.

By DB, Gwinnettian

February 9, 2009 12:48 PM | Link to this

“Make fun of my MBA all you want DB, “

You don’t get it. I’m making fun of the way you trot it out every time you’ve been called out after making some suck-@ss argument. I’m sure there are some non-flaming @sshole trolls who’ve got an MBA from Duke. You’re just not one of them.

Later, all.

By Claude Musselman

February 9, 2009 12:48 PM | Link to this

Is ACDC Mgmt. paying CommyAJC to post? He almost looks rational compared to Commy’s howling at the moon…

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:50 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management, I can handle myself. I live in Chicago so I deal with corrupt fat morons everyday.

More questions:

How many people have canceled their subscriptions due to Jay Bookmans and Cynthia Tuckers hack journalism skills?

By ByteMe

February 9, 2009 12:50 PM | Link to this

Wow, this devolved into a “my statistical p*nis is bigger than yours” discussion quick.

And all you’d have to do is click the stupid link and look up for yourself how the poll was taken.

By Bubba

February 9, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this

What a leader Obama is turning out to be. Now he wants to put the U.S. Census under the control of the White House and Rahm Emanuel. Gee, I wonder what the media outcry would have been if Bush had tried to put the Census under the control of, oh let’s say Karl Rove? Think somebody besides Fox News would have covered that one?

By RW-(the original)

February 9, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this

ragger @ 12:23,

Does that comment add to or even have anything to do with the discussion?

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:53 PM | Link to this

DB, Gwinnettian, oh no, a hack blogger just said that I don’t really have an MBA from Duke! What ever will I do? Oh that’s right, continue to sit in my office and make fun of you. Ha ha ha.

Claude Musselman, you’re the 7th or 8th new blogger with nothing to say. Good job Daryl, Joe, Bookman, Clayton County or whatever other idiot you are.

By mm

February 9, 2009 12:54 PM | Link to this

Another day of paranoia and conspiracy from the wingnuts. I guess polls only count when they support the wingnut view.

Tomorrow the stimulus will pass, so STFU.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this

ByteMe, you crack me up.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 1:00 PM | Link to this

mm, you should apply for Bookmans job. Why, because you are the first lib to admit that it will pass. Thanks for finally saying it.

By Taxpayer

February 9, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this

CommunistAJC,

You declined an offer that I made you in the past to put up or shut up. You do recall, don’t you, coward. I offered to let Jay serve as moderator and we would both provide him with details about our “lives” along with proof and the “loser” of the challenge would fork over a donation of Jay’s choosing to a charity of Jay’s choosing. Instead of dealing with my challenge like a man, you resort to your little childish game. You are a pathetic little child, commie.

Feel free to look up my original challenge. I’ll still honor it against the likes of you any day any time.

By caz1158

February 9, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

Obama wants a package,any package,regardless to how big or what’s in it. He wants one quick so as not to fail right out the gate. He promised to have a package by the 17th or 18th of this month. How bout a novice idea, what about taking our time create a bill both sides can live with. Don’t fill the package with crap. If we do these things the possibility of a positive feeling throughout the country can begin. As it is we still have both parties pulling against each other,this is never productive.

By ADL

February 9, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this

You liberal Democrats just keep voting how your socialist masters tell you to. You are good drones.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 1:08 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, What if I said, Taxpayer, lets let Neal Boortz moderate a debate between you and I and Boortz would pick a charity. Number one, you would scream bloody murder and two, you would not do it. Make sense? Calling me a pathetic little child leaves me to believe that you are Jay Bookman. He uses the same rhetoric as you. If you really wanted to show credentials then we could find other ways of doing it. I for one don’t want Bookman choosing Planned Parenthood as the recipient of your money. Have a nice day Troglodyte.

By Taxpayer

February 9, 2009 1:13 PM | Link to this

CommunistAJC,

Pull up my original challenge and make the offer. Don’t give me the what-ifs, coward. Make the OFFER, coward.

By caz1158

February 9, 2009 1:18 PM | Link to this

children-both of you,go to your rooms!!!!!!!

By getalife

February 9, 2009 1:20 PM | Link to this

commie will welch like Andy.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 1:23 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, go ask your dad, Bookman, to pull it up. I’m too busy laughing at you to do your work. Coward? Not hardly. I don’t accept challenges from faceless bloggers who want a hack journalist to moderate a debate.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this

getalife, what does that even mean?

By Soothsayer

February 9, 2009 1:26 PM | Link to this

STIMULUS LOGIC

Let’s borrow $1 trillion from the Chinese and use it to buy Chinese goods and maybe it will stimulate our economy.

==========

Do you know you have a banana in your ear?

What?

Do you know you have a banana in your ear?

I can’t hear you I have a banana in my ear.

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 9, 2009 1:27 PM | Link to this

The old base minority

Truly a joy to watch!

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 1:27 PM | Link to this

BOOKMAN, IF government could solve the economic problem then why is Cuba and other communist countries such crap? I mean, if government is the solution then we would NEVER have another recession ever again.

By Dale Gribble's GOP

February 9, 2009 1:28 PM | Link to this

So, let me make sure I have this right. Management’s a WELCHER and Commie’s a COWARD. Correct?

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 1:28 PM | Link to this

Soothsayer, well said, Soothsayer. Well said.

By tcoach

February 9, 2009 1:33 PM | Link to this

A serious question not involving p**sing contest of what institution collects alumni donations from you.

Since it is obvious that the senate now has at least 3 senators willing to vote yes for this stimulus, why is there still bickering?

This cannot be about partisanship, or Obama would not have bashed republicans, regardless of if they needed to be chastised or not. There is obviously enough votes there, so why does the democratic party not do what is in their best interest, and pass the bill without the help of the republicans?

This would seal their place in elections for years to come if they were the group who designed and ultimately passed this act. With the success that has been guaranteed as a matter of this bill, democrats would cement their elected office for 20-3- years.

So then why would they not just pass the Bill and show their power? Or is it they do not want to get blamed if this stimulus does not work?

Which brings up another question entirely.

If the democrats are not 100% SURE THIS IS GOING TO WORK, then why SHOULD we spend over 800 BILLION.

We are all nothing but pawns in ALL (rep. Dem.) in these politicians GAME of politics.
Anyone who tries to still play partisan games after all of the information available today is either delusional or so undereducated it would take an entire other bailout, stimulus package to obtain sufficient educational resources to bring about rational thought.

I just think you people who think this is a political parties fault are the cutest and funniest things in the world.

Whatever happened to the only thing to fear, is fear itself.

Guess we all turned out to be frightened kittens.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this

Dale Gribble’s GOP, yes, because someone who calls themselves taxpayer says I am.

By getalife

February 9, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this

“So, let me make sure I have this right. Management’s a WELCHER and Commie’s a COWARD. Correct?”

I think they both will welch.

Not men enough to man up and pay.

By RealityKing

February 9, 2009 1:41 PM | Link to this

Obama offers nothing but the same old tired politics of fear. The only difference is that his is wrapped with a nice neat progressive bow and delivered free by the like-minded state run delivery force..

By getalife

February 9, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this

Perhaps your leader rush should do some counter townnhall meetings.

By Ed

February 9, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

Why bother with polls, He won the election right. Pass the thing and we will know who was right in about 12-18 months. He got his three RINO’s to pass it. Why does he have to sell anything. Elections matter is what I have always believed, only reason he wants Republicans on board is so he can share the blame when it fails. If he is right, then the Democrats can take all the credit.

By Barry

February 9, 2009 1:48 PM | Link to this

My oh my - a conservative bag of hot air from Chicago vs. a blowhard lib from — well, it doesn’t really matter. You’re both just bullies impressing no one. Now to the matter at hand — this poll is really meaningless. The Annointed One has done nothing but talk - in complete sentences as opposed to the last guy, but still… The Dems in Congress are happy kneeling at the groin of John Keynes (look it up), but the American public are too wrapped up in the “8 babies of California” to care much about what, exactly, that means; and the Repubs are busy playing Quincy Adams Wagstaff - “Whatever it is, I’m against it!” It’s al so pathetic. All that’s ‘changed” are the players; this government is hopelessly fraked up, and to think anyone in Washington D.C. can lead us out of they mess THEY CREATED is delusional.

By RealityKing

February 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Link to this

The choice is simple.

NO to temporary economic relief through our children’s livilihoods!

NO to long term negative growth through short sighted relief!

NO to Obama’s American shrinkage factor!!

By fed up

February 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Link to this

tcoach is exactly right in that if the bill is so good and the dems don’t need any more votes then pass it already. They own it, if it works (let’s hope it does though I have my doubts) they’ll hold on to their majority for years, if it doesn’t work they’ll be out on their a*******es in the next election. As I’ve said before they all (on boths sides of the aisles) need to be out when they come up for election regardless.

By RB from Gwinnett

February 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Link to this

Isn’t people spending their way out of debt what got us into this mess in the first place?

By Joey

February 9, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

If this thing is half as critical as Democrats claim, why are Democrats wasting time. Pass it and move on. There is no way that Republicans alone can stop either bill.

Ram it down our throats and rescue the economy. Show us up. Come on. We deserve to be walked on. Democrats, make a stand! You won! Do something other than whine that we are not joining you.

But, one question: Do the 47% + that did not vote for President Obama deserve representation on this issue?

By Paul

February 9, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

mm 12:54

[[. I guess polls only count when they support the wingnut view.]]

Ummmm, is the same true of the Left’s view of the Congressional Budget Office?

Link: CBO: Obama stimulus harmful over long haul

“President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing. “

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 9, 2009 1:59 PM | Link to this

Think they’re freakin’ out here….take a look at the freepers today

Wonder if the Secret Service peeks at this once in a while….

By tony

February 9, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

let’s see, who are we to trust with the stimulus idea, that fat cat RePIGlicans who destroyed this nation’s world standing in the past 8 years or nearly every top economics on planet earth. I’m sticking with the economists.

By MikeB

February 9, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

I wonder how many of the 1018 “citizens” pay taxes….?

Those are the only people whose opinion should be considered in this poll.

Once again polls proove what ever the pollster wants them to prove. Only the ignorant believe them.

Got to give Obama credit. he knows the deal regarding his “stimulus package”. All the smoothness and savvy don’t “change” a thing tho…. Not much is going to trickle down to hardworking Americans regardless of who votes for it. He knows this. He just wants enough to go to the leaches that are supported by govt. programs, so that he and his cronies can get relected in 4 yrs.

Solve it by linking the right to vote to properly paying taxes, That would change things considerably. Oops then half Obama’s cabinet picks would not be able to vote….. Guess thats out then LoL.

By Del

February 9, 2009 2:07 PM | Link to this

Something isn’t right somewhere in the polling. Over 60% evidently are saying that the country is headed in the wrong direction. I guess Jay omitted drawing that graph.

By Midori

February 9, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this

Tony,

I’m sticking with the economists, too

By G'TOWN DUDE

February 9, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this

Man, the hate in this blog is pungent. The Dems are in office, give em’ a chance. Hell, you ReTHUGlicans have been in office for 8 years. You watched and stood idly by while this who shabang was falling aapart all around us. Now, now, NOW?? you people want to come out of the woodwork to fight what just might work?? Get your heads out of your collective ReTHUGlicans azzes. The Trickle Down Theory was an abysmal failure. There are no jobs in the country that the masses can work at to earn an income to survive, (watched SICKO last nite) our medical system is completely broken and co$$t prohibitive, why are we paying into a system with a fairly high premium, co-pay, and cannot expect treatment for our illnesses?? Oh, that is a ReTHUGlican thought process. Keep the people down, uneducated, and out of work, keep selling the fear!! Guess what dumb azzes, we’re not taking any of this crap anymore. What will happen is the people will take back the country, and each and every one of you ReTHUGlicans will be removed from office for merely having that (R) by your name. I have never seen a more ignorant argument from a bunch that help drive this country over a cliff.

By G'TOWN DUDE

February 9, 2009 2:11 PM | Link to this

Man, the hate in this blog is pungent. The Dems are in office, give em’ a chance. Hell, you ReTHUGlicans have been in office for 8 years. You watched and stood idly by while this who shabang was falling aapart all around us. Now, now, NOW?? you people want to come out of the woodwork to fight what just might work?? Get your heads out of your collective ReTHUGlicans azzes. The Trickle Down Theory was an abysmal failure. There are no jobs in the country that the masses can work at to earn an income to survive, (watched SICKO last nite) our medical system is completely broken and co$$t prohibitive, why are we paying into a system with a fairly high premium, co-pay, and cannot expect treatment for our illnesses?? Oh, that is a ReTHUGlican thought process. Keep the people down, uneducated, and out of work, keep selling the fear!! Guess what dumb azzes, we’re not taking any of this crap. No more. What will happen is the people will take back the country, and each and every one of you ReTHUGlicans will be removed from office for merely having that (R) by your name. I have never seen a more ignorant argument from a bunch that help drive this country over a cliff.

By Paul

February 9, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla 1:59

And this “Civilian National Security Force” (Just as strong and well funded as the military should be, according to Pres Obama - Let’s not even discuss another $525 billion) will do what, exactly?

More Nation Building?

Are we sure this is a good idea?

By @@

February 9, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

Clayton County Schools spokesperson:

Heyyyyyyyyy! Watch it bub….

yours was clearly a racist attack against black people who comprise 80% of our population down here. 90% on our B.O.E. and B.O.C.

Who do you think you are anyway, bigot?

jay, check in with us around the Maypole, howboutit?

By Barry

February 9, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

Hey Tony @ 2:02: Wrong! u need acrobat reader for this one.

By AJC/DNC Management

February 9, 2009 2:16 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife February 9, 2009 1:40 PM I think they both will welch. Not men enough to man up and pay.}}}}

al-Cybil: You told me I had to post ♥ for Oblahmi if OU lost.

You are a lib. I see liberals all the time say that they ♥ the troops but then they turn right around and stab them in the back.

So, for one week, as agreed, I posted ♥ for Oblahmi like I was a liberal.

Are you the only people in the world who can back stab someone you say you ♥?

You whined about it, surprise, surprise.

Go figure.

By Paul

February 9, 2009 2:17 PM | Link to this

Midori 1:09

“Tax cuts for the wealthy”

So Republicans propose cutting the lowest two marginal rates so the lowest would be down to what, ten percent?

So now Democrats think people at the very lowest rung of those who pay income tax are wealthy?

Yet Pres Obama want to exempt households earning between about a hundred grand and a quarter million from paying social security tax?

Economics is sooooooo confusing…

By tcoach

February 9, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this

G’TOWN- —Oh, that is a ReTHUGlican thought process. Keep the people down, uneducated, and out of work, keep selling the fear!! —

About the keep selling the fear…. You show yourself as one that does not keep up with current events and politics. Just listen to most of President Obama’s speeches press conferences democrat pep rallies. All of them are gripped with the hands of fear. Our president may have good reason for using fear. You though look uninformed when you try to use an old democratic/leftist talking point as with the new president’s arrival democrats have shown them selves to be just as good at scary stories as any on the right, center, front or back.

By Paul

February 9, 2009 2:20 PM | Link to this

[[G’town Dude 2:11 Man, the hate in this blog is pungent…. Hell, you ReTHUGlicans ]]

The funny thing about irony is, those who offer it up are completely clueless!

LOLOLOL!!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 9, 2009 2:21 PM | Link to this

Look!

Andy knows how to make little hearts.

By AJC/DNC Management

February 9, 2009 2:23 PM | Link to this

{{{{National Survey of 1,000 Likely Voters

Conducted February 6-7, 2009

By Rasmussen Reports

As Congress debates the economic stimulus plan initially proposed by President Obama, would you like to see the plan include more tax cuts and less government spending, more government spending and less tax cuts, or would you rather see the plan pass pretty much as it is today?

62% More tax cuts and less government spending

14% More government spending and less tax cuts

20% Pass pretty much as it is today}}}}

Bwahahahahahahaha, oww!

Stop it!!!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

February 9, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this

Nader’s on Hartmann…..using the D word….

By fed up

February 9, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this

gtowndude is definately out of it.

By Paul

February 9, 2009 2:25 PM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla

[[Andy knows how to make little hearts.]]

Only when he’s thinking of you…………….

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 2:27 PM | Link to this

This is what journalism has come too. No wonder the AJC and CNN are tanking.

Will recession dull hip-hop’s bling?

By John D. Sutter

(CNN) — Gold teeth, luxury cars and diamond chains heavy enough to slump a bodybuilder’s shoulders have been ubiquitous symbols in hip-hop music for years, if not decades. Rapper Lil Wayne performs Sunday night at the Grammys wearing a modest necklace.

But — as you may have noticed at the Grammys on Sunday — there are signs that the genre’s high-dollar bling may not survive the economic recession.

Many rappers came to the annual music awards show wearing sleek suits; their famous jewels were conspicuously absent. Artist Lil Wayne, who accepted two of rap’s biggest awards — Grammys for best solo rap performance and best rap album — performed wearing a T-shirt. Only a modest necklace dangled from his neck.

Like everyone these days, rappers are feeling the effects of the country’s economic meltdown. But industry commentators are split on whether they think financial woes will cause rappers to give up their hefty jewels.

Some experts contacted by CNN said the bling era soon will come crashing down.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/29/hiphop.bling.recession/index.html

By Midori

February 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Link to this

Paul,

nothing “confusing” about it — at least the present admin is trying to try something OTHER than what 8 years of scumbag Republicans gave us.

By RealityKing

February 9, 2009 2:29 PM | Link to this

For a truely scientfic poll one must go to Rasmussen reports. Obama’s 52/46 win in November proved that most all others are grossly inaccurate..

Spport for Stimulus Package Falls to 37%

By Paul

February 9, 2009 2:35 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

Thanks for the Nader heads-up. Glad AA archives their programs.

I trust you know my feelings about expanding America’s military or quasi-military position throughout the world. Unfortunately, in this case, “something other” is not necessarily a good thing. Not that we have to worry about it - I think this idea will fall by the wayside. We’re broke. Or will be.

By Midori

February 9, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this

I don’t get it, Communist.

just what Lil Wayne (or whatever his name is) wears has to do with what is being discussed here?

Bling??

Gold Teeth???

Huh????????

By Paul

February 9, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

Sorry - the last part of my last post was for Midori at 2:29. So the answer doesn’t apply.

Midori - my tongue-in-cheek response was to the effect that “middle class” or “wealthy” is a remarkably elastic concept, depending upon the audience and the point to be made.

I don’t keep up with conservative blogs - is there really a serious effort to give wealthy people (say, top five percent) additional tax cuts?

By Peadawg

February 9, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this

All this talk from Obama about is being a catastrophic and everything if this “stimulus” package isn’t passed seems like scare tactics. Wait…didn’t Democrats get onto Republicans for using scare tactics during the election?

O wait…scare tactics can only be used by Democrats…dang hypocrites.

By Midori

February 9, 2009 2:48 PM | Link to this

yes, Paul — there is.

but right now I’m really confused about this “bling” thing, and how it made its way into today’s conversation.

By fed up

February 9, 2009 2:49 PM | Link to this

Perhaps the rappers are taking a cue from Obama and trying to look like responsible individuals that have some sense….that’s a good thing.

By Soothsayer

February 9, 2009 2:51 PM | Link to this

HOW TO RETURN AMERICA TO PROSPERITY

1) End tax breaks for American corporations that operate (use foreign labor) overseas.

Current law (passed in 2004) allows corporations to claim deductions for expenses related to foreign operations, but allows them to defer income (not report) related to foreign operations until such time as they bring the income into the United States. Many times the deductions exceed their income so that we, as Americans, actually subsidize corporations to move jobs overseas.

2) Repeal NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement)

3) Get out of the WTO (World Trade Organization)

4) Repeal Most Favored Nation status for China

5) Enact a tax on goods made overseas for U.S. corporations

6) Enact a tax (tariff) on goods from countries with whom we have a balance of trade deficit, i.e., we import more from that we export to.

The above will go a long way towards “leveling the playing field” in our trade relations with the rest of the world—especially India and China.

This is the medicine we need. Band-aid stimuli packages are a big waste of time.

By Greg Mendel

February 9, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this

“BOOKMAN, IF government could solve the economic problem then why is Cuba and other communist countries such crap?”

(This is why “conservative thought” is an oxymoron when attempted by wingnuts.)

As a capitalist country, we have relied on private industry and business to to regulate themselves far more than do communist and socialist countries. Now, we’re paying a very large price for that choice. The price is having to turn to our government to solve our economic problem (and begging the commies for more handouts) because the “invisible hand of the marketplace” didn’t live up to Reagan’s naive trust.

Communist China may be a crap country, but we owe it $682 billion — more than any other. Foreign countries that hold $billions in American treasury securities include Chavez’s Venezuela, Iran, Russia, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Libya. The grand total is $3.8 trillion.

Trusting the Democrats with money is like giving a teenager the keys to your car. Trusting the Republicans with money is like giving the keys to crackheads.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this

Midori, ain’t smart is you. My point is that journalism is garbage.

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 3:12 PM | Link to this

Greg Mendel, ever tried making money in a government controlled society? It don’t work all dat well, comrade. Also, I remember the economy BOOMING after Reagan got into office. He did have to clean up Jimma Cartas mess but hey, so did everyone. You might enjoy North Korea because you seem to be into government control. Good luck with that.

By Earl

February 9, 2009 3:17 PM | Link to this

Bookman knows this paper is about to fold. Bookman knows he will need a job, sooner than later. Bookman wants a job in the Obama press camp. Does Bookman know the difference between paper and plastic, between large fries and medium fries. Drive up to the window, please.

By Soothsayer

February 9, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this

Looked at from virtually any angle, the U.S. trade situation is unprecedented. The annual trade deficit is larger than the budgets of Social Security and the military, and twice as big as Medicare. Since 1953, America’s manufacturing base has declined from 30% of GDP (when the U.S. had a trade surplus, by the way) to about 15% today. Since 1985, the cumulative deficit has grown to about USD $4 trillion, or about USD $13,000 for each man, woman, and child in the U.S.

By AmVet

February 9, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this

“…say that they ♥ the troops but then they turn right around and stab them in the back.”

Duhng, you mindless fool, that would be your beloved bloodlusting bungler and Ultra Conservative George W. Bush who presided daily over the botched invasion and occupation of Iraq that allowed over 900 American soldiers to die and more injured for the lack of body armor or vehicle armor. With billions of dollars going to Halliburton and BlackWater and with money available for such soldier protection, why did YOU chickenhawks support and enable such a serious and widely reported dereliction of duty, Duhng?

And why did you chickenhawks shuck and grin while Bush and Scumsfeld defined injuries by U.S. soldiers in Iraq so as to exclude two thirds of them? Their definition of official injuries is ones incurred in the midst of battle, even though most of that country became a theater of war, with much unilateral, unopposed action by the armed forces. CBS’ Sixty Minutes on October 2004 demonstrated the feelings of seriously injured U.S. soldiers, who were not officially counted, in order not to arouse further the opposition to the war by the American people. One quadriplegic solider used the words “a disgrace.” What is your response, Duhng?

And why didn’t you speak out against BushCo’s policy to prohibit at all times the families of their fallen sons and daughters from going to Dover, Delaware to pay their respects to their loved ones? Mothers and fathers were deeply hurt by you chickenhawks desire to avoid any public focus or associations with this destination exclusively for political reasons. You have not explained this inhumane exclusion. Why not, Duhng?

So, you can take that lame-a* support the troops cr@p and shove it up your assh0le, Duhng. Cuz I seriously doubt 90% of those here honestly believe you give a flying f&ck about the GIs or their families…

STOP THE WAR.

By Tiger fan in GA

February 9, 2009 3:32 PM | Link to this

Funny, I can’t find one person I know or work with that supports this pork bloated non-stimulus package!! I wonder who they polled??? Or possibly bookman shopped around to find a poll that supported his far left leaning ideology. Idiot!

By AJC/DNC Management

February 9, 2009 3:36 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet February 9, 2009 3:27 PM Duhng, you mindless fool, that would be your beloved bloodlusting bungler and Ultra Conservative George W. Bush who presided daily over the botched invasion and occupation of Iraq that allowed over 900 American soldiers to die and more injured for the lack of body armor or vehicle armor.}}}}

58,000 troops died in Vietnam, a conflict escalated to full blown war by a democrat, and then abandoned by democrats.

25,000,000 Iraqis live in freedom.

You were saying?

By SaveOurRepublic

February 9, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this

Most “mainstream” polls are questionable in terms of legitimacy (where, how & from whom derived, etc.). That being said, I hold all of the three (listed above) as “guilty” of fleecing the American taxpayer with this heinous “bailout”. This legislation will include very little “value-add” for economic improvement and serves as another method of Big Government empowerment!

By Frederick Douglass

February 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Link to this

A poll of ten people in Newton county, indicated that the republicans have just about ruined this country.

By Midori

February 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this

Midori, ain’t smart is you. My point is that journalism is garbage.

and what the f*ck does THAT mean?

Is this pig latin or something?

By CommunistAJC

February 9, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this

Midori, I’m so sorry public education failed you.

By Hip Hopcracy

February 9, 2009 4:35 PM | Link to this

I’m tired of the government, i.e., the Republican machine, giving tax breaks to the wealthy. If that wealth was indeed reinvested in the American economy, we would have no choice but to adhere to that concept. But it doesn’t. George Herbert Bush called Reagan’s trickle down economics as voodoo economics.

On the other hand, I’m sick of the perpetually lazy and the rampantly irresponsible from receiving tax advantages from the government. This does not include the unemployed or the disabled, but only those who can work and don’t.

Those people are as vile to me as the Young Republicans who lambasted the anti-Iraq crowd politically, but lacked the courage of their convictions to fight an ill-conceived war.

In the end, it will be the middle class, AGAIN, that shoulders this burden; kissing his employer’s behind for even giving him a job, and giving the drunk on the corner a buck because we all need to feel sorry for the unfortunate.

It sucks to be middle class in America. No political representation, and always one step away from utter ruin.

By Pogo

February 9, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

If anybody here really thinks that this mess started with Bush, then you are fools. This stuff started with NAFTA (Bush-1). This took away our manufacturing and heavy industry capability and this was supported by Both Bush-1 and Clinton. The noose tightened through the 90’s with the Techno Bubble which was an economic myth and which Clinton was fortunate enough (politically), to have been in office during the period. Yes Clinton had a balanced budget, but it was a farce. The techno-bubble burst and the economy tanked. Clinton was the one that that allowed Fannie and Freddie to spend money with no constraints at all from our government and Clinton was the one that brought the federal government heavily into providing houses to people, no matter if the they could afford them or not. Clinton was also a big friend to big business and it’s CEO’s. Then Bush came and he inherited a recession from Clinton. He took over for 8 years and him and the republicans, for the first 6 years, with the consent of the democrats, spent and spent and spent. The last two years of his presidency the Democrats controlled congress and they made matters even worse. Anybody that got in the way of Fannie and Freddie was torn apart by the Democrats. So this mess is not just the republican partys fault. The democrats had a huge hand in this over many years. Manhy of the same thugs in Congress that were there for all those years of destruction are still there and they need to be gone. The presidents come and go, and really have very little power, but the thugs in Congress, as long as dumb-A$$ people in this country keep electing them, will continue to destroy our great nation. So for all the back biting and hatred that is spewed, remember this; right now the party and its leaders which had a huge hand in all of this is totally in power. The difference now is that they have a president who totally agrees with anything that comes out of Pelosi’s and Read’s mouth. Both Republicans and Democrats should thank God (or whatever you believe in) that there is more than one party to challenge the status quo.. One party rule will never work unless people decide they want to live under Stalin, Hitler or Chavez. Then it won’t much matter anyway, will it?

By Dennis

February 9, 2009 5:15 PM | Link to this

As long as the news media continues to comment favorably on President Obama’s activity, public opinion will reflect favorably on both him and whatever position he takes. Plain and simple - the news media drives public opinion. Sad - but true.

By Sinned

February 9, 2009 5:24 PM | Link to this

The news media is not commenting favorably on President Obama. Have you not seen Fox news? Something tells me you have.

By Midori

February 9, 2009 5:39 PM | Link to this

Communist,

It appears you are the one in the failure column.

You make absolutely no sense, your comprehension, communication and focus skills are staggeringly below par, your anger and hostility is way over the top, and you have the gall to call “me” a failure.

Hey Hon - I know how to stick to the topic on hand.

What gives? Broke your glasses? 3 syllable words too tough?

Where do you live? In Bizarro World??

Give Lex Luthor my regards.

By GaLiberal

February 9, 2009 7:56 PM | Link to this

CommunistAJC=Unemployed Rethuglicon Butt-Sniffer

How else do you explain this moron’s posting his drivel all day long while the rest of us are working and paying our taxes. I’ll bet this butt-sniffer is drawing unemployment and has nothing better to do than subject everyone to this doggerel. If this person really understood the historical context of his rants, it would become apparent he’s needs a serious reality check. But, like all good little goose-stepping Rethuglicon butt-sniffers, he simply repeats RNC lies like Democrats are liberal socialists that want to take your money and your guns. This self-centered moron just can’t see that others are hurting badly and need the government to help them. But, like Reagan, the government isn’t the solution, it’s the problem. These people should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Except they have no bootstraps. Tough, in Commie’s world.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And CommunistAJC is living proof.

By Peter

February 9, 2009 9:02 PM | Link to this

Once again…the Republican’s offer no ideas except cut Taxes…….They want their grand kids to pay for their mistakes !

Greed = Republican’s

Funny stuff here………

“On the other hand, I’m sick of the perpetually lazy and the rampantly irresponsible from receiving tax advantages from the government. This does not include the unemployed or the disabled, but only those who can work and don’t.”

Gee…… look at who laid off how many……. yet again, and on a daily bases……..hmmmmmm where do these folks get jobs ?

Oh I guess like IBM says …….move to a foreign land if you want to work for us ! We will even pay you less then we were paying you before.

By Dale Gribble's GOP

February 9, 2009 11:32 PM | Link to this

A little late, but AmVet’s the winner of this deal.

By terri

February 10, 2009 4:35 AM | Link to this

You got the votes, what’s the problem? Seems to me, if this will hurt republicans, you should be glad. Why do you keep harping on their approval ratings? The bill is about to pass Jay! Apparently, you don’t think it”s going to work, so you want everybody on board. What a joke. I hope every republican votes against it, just to irritate you libs

By Jay

February 10, 2009 6:15 AM | Link to this

If anyone out there still thinks the media isn’t biased…you’re idiots!

Insightful op-ed, Komrade Bookman AJC = KGB

By John Otto

February 10, 2009 7:19 AM | Link to this

Of course not Jay. Isn’t the stimulus package the best thing to come out of Washington since Clinton, who by the way had the BENEFIT of Newt Gingrich, the Republican Congress and Senate. GW had the likes of Pelosi, and Frank, who took over the House and Senate with the promise of leaving Iraq. What happened there Jay? Why were we recovering before the democrats took over again?

You and the rest of the TASS media let Obama get away with blaming banks for the financial mess we’re in, when we all know it was pandering to the democratic base by giving undeserved mortgages as a way of buying votes that is responsible - not the greed on Wall Street.

America - brace yourselves.

Who is John Galt?

By Hmmmmm

February 10, 2009 7:49 AM | Link to this

Good question John Otto…. It’s a tragedy at best, to see this great republic spiral out of control into the great abyss, because her people will not stand up and take her country back! The absurdity of it all, both parties have failed and here we sit throwing stones, and making NO difference in our outcome…. What a SHAME! The real question should be who even understands the meaning of “John Galt”, or who even cares…..

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 8:51 AM | Link to this

PULLED.

You’re testing the limits, Commie.

Luv,

Jay

By CommunistAJC

February 10, 2009 9:02 AM | Link to this

Jay, just giving GaLiberal a taste of his/her own medicine.

Luv,

Commie

By Michael

February 10, 2009 9:33 AM | Link to this

I see some really upset people in this and other forums. Relax. The next elections will give you a chance to voice your support for your candidates and ideas. Unsubstantiated negative and bigoted statements will not get you anywhere but deeper in the hole you have dug for yourselves. It is time to rise above the anger that’s consuming you and get constructive.

By Earl

February 10, 2009 9:37 AM | Link to this

Yippee I just can’t wait until the gubment is running the country. When was the last time you had to deal with a gubment worker and not leave and say that was the best experience you ever had? Why I know when I go to local tag office to get my vehicle sticker I am sometimes confused if I am in a gubment office or a MENSA meeting. Yes, gubment jobs is the answer, Obama says it is and we all know he knows everything. Write?

By SaveOurRepublic

February 10, 2009 9:50 AM | Link to this

Pogo @ 17:11 (2/9) - Very astute allusions to the NAFTA debacle & its embrace by fellow Globalist shills from the RNC (Bush Sr.) & DNC (Bill “ClinTAX”). This fact further lends credence to my redundant cry of “DNC & GOP leadership are 2 sides of the same coin*”!

By vince neil

February 10, 2009 9:59 AM | Link to this

JB, I realize there are clever retorts available here and expect them from all the “mean spirited” lefties but if a majority always ruled, we would be speaking with an English accent, the British would speak German, and women and blacks would not vote….

By Bobby

February 10, 2009 10:03 AM | Link to this

You Republicans Can Say Whatever You Want. That’s Your Right. But One Thing Is For Sure, There Has Never Been, Nor Will There Ever Be A Republican From The South To Get The Republican Nomination For President. The Real Republicans Expect You Southerners To Vote For Them And Vote With Them, But You’re Not Good Enough To Get The Nomination. Not Now. Not Ever. And Please Don’t Use George W. Bush As An Example. Not A Southerner. Look At His Grandfathers, Fathers, And His Bio. All Yale Graduates, Conneticut U.S. Senator, Rhode Island, Skull & Bones, A Mansion In The State Of Maine (Kennebunkport), Wall Street Banker… Wake Up And Realize You Are Viewed By The Real Republicans As Morons. Nothing More, Nothing Less.

By Reid in EAV

February 10, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this

Hey, we have a Democratic president that I don’t hate, and actually resonate with on a few key things — so I was hoping to come here for some substance but instead I get poll-driven politics. Hmph.

Here’s a WSJ piece that articulates, for me, how badly Obama has fumbled the bipartisan opportunity that this “stimulus” bill was:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123396623933859023.html

And here’s my reaction, as a city-loving (and city-living — yay East Atlanta) pro-life conservative:

I was actually fairly OK with (or at least resigned to) a version of the bill described here, provided that the public works portion of the legislation addressed some of the major infrastructure funding imbalances and neglected areas over the last 50 years — that is, funding for road/bridge repair, general infrastructure maintenance and repair and funding for transit capital and operations, rather than new lane-miles of pavement (the former continues to grease the wheels of commerce while helping the “least of these” who rely on transit to get to what jobs they still hold, while the latter adds burden to the economy and to the environment, as well as more costs down the road).

Instead, we’ve got a giant clusterfarg of a bill that’s literally the worst of both worlds. The “public works” is more of the same (more roads, wider roads, let’s-pave-what’s-left) while everything else is a payoff for political allies.

I rationalized my way into being OK with Obama being president (and certainly was no Bush fan, especially by the end of his term) because to a large extent, I felt he “got” cities, urban issues and the problems with postwar growth and resource allocation in a way that no one on the other side of the aisle really does. (And would I rather have all that in more of a free-market, neo-Liberatarian and of course pro-life package? Of course. But ain’t nobody sellin’ that.)

But this is no way to start. Way to squander all that goodwill, Mr. President. Phbbbbbt.

By Eric

February 10, 2009 10:27 AM | Link to this

I am really just laughing my a** off. This idiot “president” is a product of his affirmative action education and was obviously socially promoted at every level. Watching him trying to explain his economic “stimulus” package is like listening to 4 year old tell you why the sky is blue..

“only govenment ..can fix the economy” . Hey Barry, anybody with an 8th grade grasp of economics knows you can’t spend your way out of an economic down cycle.. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU’RE BOROWING THE MONEY, DIP*T!

The bright side is that this moron’s term is already such a disaster that when the carnage ends.. there will NEVER be another. Oh.. and that we still get a great chuckle everytime Chicken Little Barry gets on his bully pulpit and tells us it’s the end of the world unless we borrow more money… LMOA

By Tommy Maddox

February 10, 2009 10:28 AM | Link to this

You have to just love statistics. Nice chart, Jay.

This bill belongs to Harry, Nancy, their crowd, 3 liberal “Republicans” from the Northeast, and all the educated and informed supporters of our present Administration.

It is all yours.

As for me, I have to get back to work so I can support my family and several others of unknown identity.

By gatorboy62

February 10, 2009 11:00 AM | Link to this

Jay, after last night news conference the honeymoon is over. I would suspsect the majority of people don’t even know what is included in the bill. All they hear is Obama’s constant, blah, blah, blah. From 3 millillion jobs, to 4 million jobs, etc. Do you have the guts to start tracking the promises, doubt it!!!