Are you still freaking out that a partisan hack pundit made a silly claim? Get over it. That is what partisan hack pundits do, Jay. For example, one partisan hack pundits claimed that the Christian Right doesn’t believe in the bible. Is that any less silly?
As I have said before, your lack of self-awareness is amusing.
And since half of the US population are also dunces, no matter what blowhard baraKKK does, they will always be fond of him, their little kult leader, guiding them through their empty, Godless heathen existence .
Well, at least until the depression kicks in next month.
How dare Obama try to reign in CEO pay. They deserve every penny they steal from their stockholders. Only union workers should face mandatory paycuts, not CEOs.
The elites always gain, the unwashed masses feel the pain. That’s the conservative way. It’s working pretty well in Saudi Arabia, the conservative paradise.
I saw another lonely Republican talking to another person the day. He was mumbling, “I am relevant, I am relevant, I am relevant,” over and over and over. Finally, he had to stop to catch his breath. The other person took advantage of the break and looked at the Republican and said, “Why, that’s just crazy talk. You are not relevant and saying that you are over and over will not change the facts.”
The poor Republican caught his breath and started over, “I am relevant…” He continued this moaning until the end of the work day when he and the other Republican congressmen headed out the door in the directions of their favorite bars. You could still hear them mumbling as they moved off into the distance.
Whew. Jay, for a minute there I thought I’d go online and read that you thought Charles Krauthammer had made some “good points” in his latest hysterical screed about Obama, published in today’s dead tree edition.
What is it, a three-point shift? Probably within the margin of error for polls of that sort.
If we were going to be treated to poll analysis, I was hoping for the latest Gallup or Rasmussen regarding public support for the stimulus bill - one-week, two week, one month shifts. Kinda gives a clue why time is of the essence…
{{{{His serious and consequential policy mistake is that he put his prestige behind not a new way of breaking through but an old way of staying put. This marked a dreadful misreading of the moment. And now he’s digging in. His political mistake, which in retrospect we will see as huge, is that he remoralized the Republicans. He let them back in the game.
Mr. Obama has a talent for reviving his enemies. He did it with Hillary Clinton, who almost beat him after his early wins, and who was given the State Department. He has now done it with Republicans on the Hill. This is very nice of him, but not in his interests.-Noonan, WSJ}}}}
Adrift in the fever swamps, the forlorn dimwit realizes she jumped out of a perfectly good airplane and landed slam into the drink, so what’s a good Benedict Arnold to do but start backstabbing the “new” love of her life?
On the shift in public support for the bill (not the President’s approval rating)? It’s reversed, as I understand. More over what the public sees as excessive nonstimulus spending.
Watched an interview with the mayor of Shreveport, LA. He was asked about the 8 Harleys for the police force, water slides, etc. He spoke of crumbling roads, unsafe bridges, and infrastructure. He was asked about the Harleys and such. Answered they showed “the full range of needs of the states” - then went on about crumbling roads, bridges etc. He was asked how much they’d requested for road and bridge repair. He spoke of the full range of needs…
What a politician.
BTW - ever looked to see how much of the stimulus bill spending is for road, bridge and sewer line repair?
So, Obama is reported to have ditched the teleprompter and gone after some of his critics. He was mocking them and even rejecting their proposal for more tax cuts. Good for him. The minority party has to either learn its place or have Obama point it out to them.
I would personally like to thankkk AJC/DNC Management for his kkkontribution to our kkkause. Sure as Obama is a ‘dunce’ as shown by his recird at Harvard and UofChi, he is equally doomed.
Again thankkk you AJC/DNC Management you are beakkkon to us all.
Best,
The Grand Dragon & KKK Management
{{{{“There’s no message out of the White House,” said one House Democrat, who faulted Obama for letting the Republicans and the media own the P.R. battle on the bill.
“We are getting plucked apart on these stimulus issues.- Politico}}}}
Maybe he is doomed.
{{{{A new Gallup poll finds that only 38 percent of Americans want the Obama stimulus plan passed without major changes. Nor do they have a whole lot of confidence in it.-US News}}}}
And we are more than happy to help him with his suicide mission-
{{{{Several of the GOP’s most prominent governors blasted the stimulus plan making its way through Congress Thursday, urging Senate Republicans to resist passing the bill and taking aim at what they called unnecessary spending in the package.-Politico}}}}
Two and a half weeks was all it took to totally devastate your own presidency, unreal, you now have two choices-
{{{{Under insistent questioning from a Senate panel, Mr. Panetta said that in extreme cases, if interrogators were unable to extract critical information from a terrorism suspect, he would seek White House approval for the C.I.A. to use methods that would go beyond those permitted under the new rules.-NY Times}}}}
I guess you have no response to my question. I love how you swoop in with silly comments directed at individuals and then scurry away when challenged on them. Nothing new about that.
If you have not read some of Obama’s comments about the Republicans, they’re well worth the read. I think he’s tired of hearing the minority party proclaiming themselves as being anything more than the minority party. When dealing with a Republican, the best strategy is to call them out and tell them to put up or shut up. They clearly don’t know that their best strategy at that point is to shut up and so they proceed to just make themselves look like bigger idiots by saying something predictable such as “We need more tax cuts.”
The stat they fixed upon was a response to the question asked about Hillary, Edwards, and Obama: “Who do you think has more honesty/integrity”? Obama led second-place Hillary by 13 points. About which, pollster.com’s Mark Blumenthal comments, with the emphasis mine:
=====
“(Hillary) Clinton still holds enormous advantages on foreign policy, health care and the economy and for having the ‘right experience.’ ‘Honesty/integrity,’ however, is easily her her weakest dimension, and one of Obama’s strongest, as other surveys have shown in recent months.
“How important are perceptions of integrity and trust? Very. Drawing on decades of opinion poll data, political scientists identify two central traits — competence and integrity — that drive judgements about presidents and presidential candidates. ‘Presidents are judged,’ wrote Professor Donald Kinder (with whom I once studied at the University of Michigan), ‘by their intelligence, knowledge and experience on the one hand, and by their honesty, decency and ability to set a good moral example on the other’. Candidates that are perceived to be otherwise qualified and competent lose when voters find them lacking in terms of honesty and trust.”
======
That should’ve been the tip-off for most, back in January 2008, that Obama was going to win this thing. And it’s what will hold him in good stead with the voting public in these battles ahead.
For all the GOP’s considerable skill in framing individual issues and winning occasional media battles, their overall standing with the public is not where they need to be, nor do I see it changing any time soon.
One must realize that the stimulus package is for a short term jumpstart of the economy. In respect to infrastructure, esp roads and bridges, the Federal legislation for those expires this year and a new bill will need to be crafted. It usually covers 6 years, so only an immediate infusion to create jobs is initially needed.
Any long term infrastructure will need to be funded through the new legislation. The hardest thing then is to determine where the money comes from… the payout contained in the appropriations bill over the past 5 years has not approach the legislation total, nor has it met the needs. Should the gas tax be increased? Adjusted to inflation? Other sources of income?
I guess the mainstream media is beginning to figure out Obama isn’t the Messiah. After the inauguration he didn’t walk across the waters of the Reflecting Pool, he didn’t feed the crowd with one basket of bread and fish …. and Chris Mathews hasn’t had any more tingles up his legs!
What will they tell the mindless voters who voted for him now? Oh yeah, keep repeating their mantra … Blame Bush, Blame Bush (and ignore the fact that once the Democraps held the purse strings of Congress things went down the tubes).
“Thanks for providing your usual enlightening and intelligent commentary. You are a true intellectual.”
Well, no, Mike, I never claimed to be—like you, I’m just some jackoff posting intermittently entertaining tidbits and factoids on the Intertubes as time and life permit.
For a true intellectual, you gotta get with “CommunistAJC.” Aside from asserting with every post that a for-profit media company is somehow “Communist,” this guy has hisseff a Em Bee Ay from the Duke. I’m sure he won’t mind me bringing that up because he manages to mention his fabulous kree-denshuls and his boner Fee-days unabashedly.
Later, all. Don’t push anyone down a flight of stairs.
“Don’t come to table with the same tired arguments and worn ideas that helped create this crisis,” said Obama. “We’re not going to get relief by turning back to the very same policies that in eight short years doubled the national debt and threw our economy into a tailspin.”
The job report was close to 600 thousand not 500 thousand jobs lost.
Meanwhile, where are all the Republicans when it comes to talks of regulation and oversight. I have a feeling that they might not want to push that philosophy for at least another fifty years or more especially around folks that were victimized by Madoff. Of course, they were not the only ones hurt by Wall Street’s scum and the Republican enablers. Then, there’s Saxby Chambliss criticizing the lack of oversight and regulations at that Georgia peanut processing plant. He sure abandoned those Republican core principles in an effort to save his sorry hide. Talk about the hen house — it would be better off fighting off the wolves than having him guard it. What a worthless piece of Republican trash. I will never forget how that sugar industry lapdog went after that guy that tried to save people from harm at that Savannah sugar plant. I would not waste my spit on him.
You set the new standard for BDS afflication when you wrote, “Hopefully, like GWB, he will not play to the polls and instead, do what he thinks is best for us.”
If there was one hallmark of the Bush Presidency, it was that President Bush did that which he believed to be in America’s best interests - polls be damned. The surge is one great example.
Obama, on the other hand, since his emergence into the public eye has been like swamp grass - changing based on which way the winds blow.
Obama is not doomed….yet. If he keeps making “campaign speeches” though he might be. I’m not sure why he can’t sit down with both parties for however long it takes to hammer this thing out. Instead he goes to Virginia (where the Dems are having a retreat on our money) and makes a speech slamming Bush and admitting that this is a spending package. He’s right this is a spending package, a government spending package that the majority of the spending will not hit the economy for 2-3 years. He said tax cuts don’t work. How about payroll tax cuts for 2 years? Those are not the same cuts that Bush made. The “jobs” that are supposedly this bill is going to create are really “work” and when the work is done, the jobs are gone.
President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.
Read all about it - Barry the bumbler doesn’t have a clue
Bush and his band of Republican cronies will definitely go down in the history books and it will not be for anything good. He and his party’s failed policies have left us with the most job losses in January since Nixon’s pathetic days in Washington and the most losses in a 12-month period since 1939. Wow. Good job, Bush and you other loser Republicans.
This is what happens when RINOs and democrats run a beautiful state into the ground with government.
Furlough Fridays begin for Calif. state workers
Feb 6 07:40 AM US/Eastern
By JUDY LIN
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - More than 200,000 state government employees were expected to stay home without pay Friday as California began its first-ever furlough, a move intended to save money during an ongoing fiscal crisis.
State agencies scrambled in the days before the furloughs took effect to avoid confusion for the public, such as people trying to register vehicles or obtain professional licenses.
Among the offices to be closed Friday are those of the Department of Motor Vehicles and Department of Consumer Affairs. The governor’s Office of Emergency Services also would be dark as part of a cash-saving move ordered by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Critical and revenue-generating agencies were scheduled to remain open, including fire stations, parks and employment centers that process unemployment insurance claims. California’s unemployment rate is 9.3 percent, a 15-year high.
Schwarzenegger ordered the two-day-a-month furloughs, reducing the average state worker’s salary by 9.2 percent, as he and lawmakers try to solve the state’s $42 billion budget shortfall.
The governor had hoped his order would apply to some 238,000 state employees, but each of the seven other constitutional officers have said they will not comply. Employees of the Legislature are not under his authority.
Schwarzenegger’s legal affairs secretary, Andrea Hoch, said the administration was prepared to sue the state controller if he did not reduce paychecks for more than 15,000 workers in the other constitutional offices, which include the attorney general, secretary of state and insurance commissioner.
Dear AJC/DNC Management,
Thankkks again. I kkkouldn’t have said it better myself. You are a ekkkellent representative of our fraturnal brotherhood kkklub.
The Grand Dragon
How do liberals have so much faith in a government that fails in every area it sticks its’ nose? There has been little to no free market in this country since Hoover and FDR caused a great depression and thus began the end of our great American Experiment. Thanks liberals, you are close to your goal of recreating the failed European Socialist Society.
This guy knows a HELL of a lot more about politics than Bookman.
Democrats Write Off ‘Crimes’ as ‘Mistakes’
By: Michael Reagan
You can’t help but wonder whether Democrats pay ever taxes. It seems from the headlines that the way the system works is that Democrats levy taxes, but only Republicans have to pay them.
For a president who said he was going to preside over the most ethical administration in history, Barack Obama has shown an astounding talent for being able to find appointees who mistakenly manage to forget to pay their taxes.
Just look at Timothy Geithner, for example. The new Treasury secretary — the man who oversees the IRS — forgot to pay $34,000 in taxes. Tom Daschle had to pay $128,203 in back taxes and $11,964 in interest after he learned he was going to be nominated as secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and he later withdrew from consideration. Obama’s appointee Nancy Killefer withdrew her candidacy to be the first “chief performance officer” for the federal government because she messed up paying payroll taxes on her household help.
Then there’s Charlie Rangel, head of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, who didn’t pay his taxes. And Al Franken, who might be a new Democratic senator from Minnesota thanks to the peculiar way they count votes in his state, didn’t pay his taxes, either. The congresswoman who was appointed to fill Hillary’s vacant seat in the Senate did not pay her taxes.
Not to worry, though. It appears that none of these people committed offenses. They merely made “mistakes.”
Speaking of Daschle, the president said: “Tom made a mistake, which he has openly acknowledged … He has not excused it, nor do I. But that mistake and this decision cannot diminish the many contributions Tom has made to this country.”
No Democrats ever commit crimes. They merely make mistakes.
I saw a little video clip of Glenn Richardson munching out on some Georgia peanuts. Wow. Such courage. I wonder if he would be willing to eat a big scoop of peanut butter from a container with the salmonella in it. I think Georgia’s Republican politicians need to start eating peanut butter sandwiches — just like the one’s that school kids were getting — made with peanut butter from Blakeley, GA. Yum Yum. Do you value your kids as much as the “family values” Republicans do.
I’m glad to see the stimulus plan being questioned, as I think all government spending should be questioned.
There definitely hasn’t been enough of that lately, and it’s a nice change to see so many people at least attempting to act fiscally responsible.
And certainly doing nothing is an option as well.
But if the stimulus package does not go through and the powers that be decide to do nothing, then everyone is going to have to live with the results: more unemployed and more home foreclosures, which means more people on social welfare programs - but who am I kidding, that’s going to happen anyway.
I certainly agree with Obama that the way we’ve been doing things (tax cuts and spending like drunken sailors) has proved to be a formula for economic disaster. But maybe tax cuts with little spending will do better? I don’t know - I’m no economist. Spending money on infrastructure and reducing our need for foreign oil? I certainly like that. A little of both?
Obama is not the savior of us all and will not fix this, our attitudes as consumers (realizing that we do not need every shiny gadget that hits the stores from China and 100 pairs of shoes, and our homes decorated with cheap Pier One sh!t from Indonesia or China) is what will fix it.
Remember Management, no personal attacks unless you are a whiny little liberal parading around as “Andy the Welcher,” “KKK Management” or “Dogs against Management,” those are alright, bwa.
No, Obama is not doomed, yet. He’s just showing us that he is a complete failure as a centrist leader.., Look!, even Nancy is running rough sod over him.
That whole progressive idea about conservatism being dead in America on the other hand.., Look! The Phoenix has risen!!
I’m not sure what this post is suppose to mean but Pres. Obama is not doomed it is the Republican party that’s doomed especially when Rep. P. Gingley has to grovel to an ex-drug addict for forgiveness.
As far as the taxes go I must admit that the Democrats do not like to pay taxes it is unbelievable BUT then the Republicans have a thing for little boys and girls for ex.Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, John Bolton, George W. Bush, Larry Craig, Bob Barr, Philip Giordano, Rush Limbaugh etc. What would you rather have someone who doesn’t pay taxes or someone you can’t leave your young child around???
Republicans are mere sore losers. They want to blame all the ills on thise country to when Democrats took over in ‘06. If I recall the only meaningful legislation Pelosi and crew were able to pass in the first 100 days of being in the majority were extending unemployment benefits and raising the minimum wage. I challenge any republican to find some enormous spending bill that the slim majority was able to pass that wasn’t vetoed by Bush. From ‘02-‘06 W. never vetoed a single bill. He got his big tax cuts as soon as he took office so I would ask where is the job creation and spending that were to come from those cuts?
The republican party is out of ideas, and all they can do is shift blame for their failed policies. The fundamentals of the economy were strong mere months ago, and now we have the highest unemployment rate in 30 years. The lack of reality to admit the BushCo really fcked things up is amazing. Now that a gift wrapped trd of an economy was waiting for Obama on his first day, this so called conservatives want to restrain spending. Where were these fiscal principles when the enormous tax cuts were passed? What about all the Iraq appropriations that were basically put on a credit car for ‘future generations to pay’? And that giant Medicare spending bill? There wasn’t a need to control spending then, but now that millions of people are out of work, you want to be the party of no. Get real man. Go sit in a corner and let the adults clean up this mess. Republicans haven’t earned a seat at the table after the performance they put on for 8 years. Small government; Terry Schiavo. Republican principles; Valerie Plame. Fiscal spending; Iraq, tax cuts, and trillion dollar medicare spending. The democrats aren’t perfect but I hope Obama continues what he did last night and mops the floor with the likes of Graham, Boehner, and Cantor. He already has dismissed McCain. If the stimulus package doesn’t pass, republicans will then blame Obama for doing nothing. They’re out of ideas and have nothing else to offer except play defense and block everything.
Further, if the Republicans cannot have another tax cut, then they want to do nothing. If only Bush and his Republican party had chosen to do nothing when they were in power. We’d actually be in pretty good shape right now. Now, we just have to remind them of their minority status in our society as we go about fixing their many screwups. There are just so many screwups from these Republicans. Why couldn’t they at least get something, one thing, anything at all, right.
By the way, Dick, you will be safe under your bed. We won’t let those mean old 16-year old “terrorists” that you tortured come and get you.
Obama says that we can not continue the ways of the past that doubled the national debt. Then he says from his other mouth that we must pass his historically humungus pork barrel laiden spending bill without further discussion to preserve the economy. And all this from a man who picked tax cheaters to fill his cabinet!!(eyes rolling wildly round and round)
choices I’d rather not have either of those choices. But on topic, lets have a government by the people/for the people instead of the hacks we’ve got running it now. This stimulus package is nothing more than a big government package that our children, our grandchildren and possibly even our great grandchildren will be paying back. The spending is not even going to “hit the streets” for 2-3 years. Obama needs to be a leader instead of a campaigner and get down to the people’s business.
RealityKing, what solution would you offer to get out this mess? I would love for the private sector to do what they do to pull us out of this mess, but based on the wonderful job Wall St. CEOs, mortgage lenders, and other job sectors have done, government has to step in. So I would honestly ask you, what plan do you have other than tax cuts to turn the economy around. As an aside, Bush and REPUBLICANS passed the largest tax cuts in U.S. history and how did that work out?
Fed up, who do you think is going to pay for the Iraq War, and the Medicare spending bill? Bush callously slipped spending for Iraq in appropriations bills, not in any fiscal year budget as every other president in war time as done. As a matter of fact, Bush was the only president to cut taxes during a time of war. So exactly who is getting down to the people’s business? And your statement about spending not ‘hitting the street’ for 2-3 years is false. The money would be given to state and local governments within 90-180 days, which is a provision of the bill. We can have an honest debate if its based on facts, and not heresay. What else would you do to turn the economy around? People on this blog like AJC management want nothing more than to attack the president for every action, but Obama has offered more bipartisan leadership in 3 weeks than Bush did in 8 years. As anyone noticed that republicans act as if the last 8 years never happened, and every problem we face now started on 1/21/09.
Pretty good summary of the economic arguments regarding the stimulus bill from the Washington Post business columnist (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/05/AR2009020503413.html).
At least Obama gave an elegant speech last night. Did he write that one too? The way he articulate those progressive words was magnificent…, wasn’t it?
“the scale and the scope of this economic plan is right”
“Don’t come to the table with the same tired arguments and worn ideas that helped to create this crisis”
“We’re not going to get relief by turning back to the very same policies that, for the last eight years, doubled the national debt and threw our economy into a tailspin”
“I don’t care whether you’re driving a hybrid or an SUV — if you’re headed for a cliff, you’ve got to change direction.”
“This is not a contest for who’s in power and who’s up and who’s down.”
“It’s time to set aside the gamesmanship in this town and get something done.”
“you have the capacity to do great things” on behalf of the American people, but we are going to have to do it by not thinking about ourselves.”
Fabulously written clichés, don’t you think?? And I’d almost swear there was no panic in his voice..
Sorry get real you might need to live up to your name. The stimulus package is nothing more than a get bigger government bill. It’s not going to stimulate the economy. I’m not picking on Obama, I’m talking about everybody in Washington. They are nothing more than hacks getting paid off by lobbyists to push through whatever the lobbyists want them to push through. Are you going to try to tell me money for STD, money for global warming, money for lawn care, money for community activist groups such as ACORN are going to stimulate the economy? If you are tell me how. Let’s quit comparing how Obama does things versus Bush, that gets nothing done. I don’t necessarily think Obama making a speech at the resort Democrats have gone to (on our $$) is being bipartisan. He needs to sit down with leaders on both sides of the aisle and get something done that truly stimulates the economy.
In an article titled “No More Mr. Nice Guy” on today’s Yahoo home page Obama made a statement during a Q&A that totally blew me away. Here is the copy and paste:
Rhode Island Rep. Jim Langevin, who hasn’t been able to walk since he was 16, asked Obama if he would remove the executive ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Yes, Obama replied, but only after he and congressional leaders figure out a way to prevent opponents from overturning it.
What does he mean when by “prevent opponents from overturning it.” This is not a statement that represents democracy, but instead, it represents dictatorship. Obama is very loose with words and acts very quickly without doing any homework. This mindset is what will throw the USA into some serious consequences if he doesn’t start thinking with his brain instead of know it all lip service.
“stay the course” as in more of the same. I think we should give Republicans a treat — free food. Processed peanut butter products from, you know where. Then, we have some leftover jalapenos. Of course, they’ll need to wash it down with something substantial. I know where there are some wells that are just overflowing. They just happen to be located underneath a bunch of toxic ash that spilled out of a retention pond at a coal-burning power plant. Now, that’s some good stuff. Never mind the after taste.
I would say those ‘cliches’ are just stating fact. For conservatives to scream about spending now is the height of hypocrisy. It IS time to set aside gamesmanship and get something done. What do republicans know about job creation when the only job numbers presented for the last 8 years were smoke and mirrors. The GOP has lost all credibility in regards to finances, so I would argue that they need to sit down and let a responsible LEADER lead. He has tried to work with republicans, and I’m to the point where he should just say screm ‘em. Either way they will play the same political games.
The answer is simple, try using some common sense. Exactly what the rest of us use to pay our bills on time while living within the boundries of our means. Otherwise.., we lose it all, right? Well guess what…, so does government.
Which means..,
No more tax cuts! No more government growth!! And most of all, no more deficit spending!!!
Sure we’re going to feel some pain, but we deserve it now don’t we, certainly more than our children and grandchildren.
I’m sorry, fed up, but didn’t Obama ‘sit down’ with republican house members AFTER Minority leader Boehner advised the republican caucus to oppose the stimulus bill? That isn’t acting in good faith to me. Obama even urged Pelosi to strip from the bill the amendment for contraceptives. And ACORN is one of many community organizations that provide low income heating assistance to the elderly and low income people, they also provide job training. Instead of hearing the opinion of the media, go to their website. Obama met one-on-one with Olympia Snow two days ago, and urged leaders of BOTH parties to eliminate waste from the bill. He gave his parameters of what he wanted, Congress drafted the bill. The way Obama and Bush do things are miles apart, just in two weeks, so there is no comparison. I wold like to see our elected officials work in god faith, but as I stated before it is complete hypocrisy for republicans to be concerned with spending now.
In this article, Obama blasts the GOP on their position of tax cuts vs. spending. I like his ‘fire in the gut’ passion. I don’t necessarily agree with positioning of this bill, though.
There are 2 things that stand out. One is the argument that spending is needed, and that tax cuts just add to the deficit. But in the same article, Obama acknowledges that the spending adds to the deficit too, and I guess, argues that spending is a more effective way to add to the deficit than not spending and giving money back to taxpayers instead. To me, it is deficit one way or another. If spending, the money is directed to the govt and in a high percent of the cases, it is for stuff we don’t need. In tax cuts, the money gets used by consumers that buy what they need, increasing the value and stability of corporations that are in trouble. Tax cuts allow the money to flow where consumers see fit instead of where govt sees fit. Either way, it is borrowing against our future.
The other thing from this article that bother me is in a time of financial crisis, this meeting took place with “House Democrats at their annual retreat at the Kingsmill Resort and Spa.” nice. Glad someone can leave their regular office and go on a retreat.
I mean really sit down, not have a brief meeting. Get out the pen/paper and sit down as long as it takes. Olympia Snow? Give me a break she votes with Dems more than she does with repubs. Again, get over how Bush did things, that’s over and behind us. IT might be hypocrisy for repubs to be concerned with spending now, so the answer to that is to just keep spending? I don’t think so. There are plenty of organizations that provide assistance to low income people, if that’s what Acorn is going to use the money for then the government can just give it to the low income people instead of using a middle man that skims off the top. He did give parameters of what he wanted and look what the house came up with. Unless they sit down and come up with some kind of a package besides this government growth bill we are in serious trouble as is many generations to come. I’m starting to think by reading these posts that a lot of people are more concerned about one side (dems or repubs) of getting their a$$ whipped than what is really good for this country. That’s really sad.
What Bush and the Republicans did is behind us all right. Now, if we could only get a grip on the handle and pull it out and plug the bleeding so we can start to recover. But, the minority Republicans say, NO. That knife stuck in your back is there for your own good. Leave it alone and you’ll get used to it. You just need time. Here, have another dose of morphine. You see, doesn’t that feel better. There’s nothing quite like more of the same, now is there.
shawny don’t you know the politicians know how to spend our money better than we do, ha ha. That’s why we’re all working (those that are fortunate enough to have a job still) and they’re at a retreat on our $$ instead of getting together and truly getting something done.
The President is acting on his campaign promises. He threw down the gauntlet on the gop to come up with new ideas. They have none and doubt they are able to change.
I just love hearing Republicans complain about a Democrat that makes a mistake and does not pay all their taxes while trying their best at the same time to get legislation passed to eliminate taxes. They deliberately ignore the wealthy and corporations that set up off shore or take advantage of other schemes to illegally avoid paying their taxes while approving expenditures to go after people making poverty-level income to make sure that they pay all their taxes. Republicans are not only hypocrites, they’re also perverts.
Anyway, time to go out for a three hour lunch. Dang, retirement is nice.
Chalk up another blunder for the newbie in the White House. Now he drops charges, albeit hopefully temporarily, against the Cole bomber being tried at Gitmo and asks the families just yesterday to travel to the White House on their own dime today for a photo op.
On another note, is there some reason why we the people have to pay for a lavish luncheon in the East Room every time Obama wants to introduce whatever tax cheat he’s added to our payroll?
Gotta love it! Since O is about 45 minutes late for the lunch we’re buying him they’re showing a wide shot of the East Room. All he’s supposed to do is introduce his economic advisory board, but if you guessed he could do that without his teleprompter you would be wrong.
[In addition, there is the huge mortgage loan crisis that is cooking in a deadly fashion that will boil over in 4-5 years. The huge mortgage loan fiasco that is going to occur will cause a near depression within 4-5 years due to “tricky dicky” mortgage financing that has occured and is occuring by third party loan brokers and sub-prime lenders with low teaser rates of 2% the first 3 to 5 years to sell homes. They are doing this to basically get unqualified people who could not actually afford the regular mortgage payment at a regular interest rate. When these payments double and in some caes triple monthly, these people will not be able to afford a payment that has jumped from $750.00 a month to over $1,400.00 a month. This will result in a huge foreclosure of homes. Combined with these job losses, it is a nightmare that most Americans have no idea is coming within 4-5 years.
Warning to all my readers. This will also cause the stock exchanges all over the world, including NASDAQ to lose its highest valuation in over 30 years. Trillions will be lost in retirement accounts. This is all due to banking regulations that were done away during the Reagan years, 1984 and 1986 that I have already written about.
My suggestion, if you have 401 K’S or retirement accounts vested in stocks in banks, or any of these other areas, REIT mortgage loan packages, move them into safe funds or even bank CD’s. You will not earn as much but you will not lose thousands of dollars in the coming fianancial meltdown that will occur in 4-5 years when all of this collapses.
Last and the only solution to this…we must begin to bring the jobs back home. Corporations can no longer receive tax credits for opening up factories overseas. America must become the manufacturing giant again she once was. Tarriffs need to be put in place to secure American jobs, something the Bush administations refuses to see they must do to stop this exodus of jobs in America. We need to make our own steel to make our own military hardward, not buying the steel from China of all places. Have the idiots in Washington lost their minds?](http://www.dldewey.com/columns/feb04f.htm)
When you consider that this was written in 2004, it’s amazing how accurately this man predicted the current situation.
{{{{Groups that were critical of the Bush faith-based office issued statements Thursday expressing disappointment in the Obama version. All said that by failing to repeal Bush policies, the White House will allow participating religious groups to continue discrimination in hiring.-Urinal/kult of baraKKK}}}}
Bwahahahahahaha, ow!
Stop it!!!!
~~~~~~
{{{{Coleman seizes on newfound ballots; Hopes lifted as votes missed in recount turn up…}}}}
What would do to get things back on track fed up? What is an alternative to this stimulus package? Corporations are laying everyone off, not hiring. Tax cuts simply means the government is collecting less money. Is that ‘common sense’ if you’re a family; cut your hours at work when your bills are increasing? I don’t agree with democrats on all issues, but in this instance what is the alternative?? I agree, take all the crap out. Congress can’t agree on whats good or bad in the legislation. Production and spending is grinding to a literal halt. Everyone is trying to hold on to what they have moneywise. Cut capital gains? Well less than 20% of Americans even pay this tax, and most of them may still have a job. Our infrastructure needs improving, and it creates jobs. People are losing healthcare in droves, this has to be addressed. Political affiliations aside people, what are we to do to get out of this mess? Its not even funny how bad things are. I can admit I’ve done it before, but namecalling and all the other things posted on this blog is not gonna turn this country around. Fresh and new ideas will.
Andy, about Coleman’s ever-shrinking legal options…so you’re saying you’re clinging to hope?
I’d bet that you are wrong about the chance that Norm will ever step inside the Capitol Building as anything but a tourist ever again but, well, we all know what happens when you lose a bet.
{{{{“The American people did not choose more of the same,” Oblahma said. “They did not send us to Washington to get stuck in partisan posturing, or to turn back to the same tried and failed approaches that were rejected in the last election. They sent us here with a mandate for change, and the expectation that we would act.”}}}}
What a KKKoward.
Republicans are not going to filibuster this pork monstrosity, pass it, you KKKhicken &^%$ sissies.
Whine and moan, same old failed policies of…………….the demoKKKrat party.
Please name one thing the Dems passed that wrecked Bush’s “sound” economy.
I’ll make it easier, they blocked President Bush’s efforts to strengthen regulation of Fannie & Freddie which was the first string to unravel from the whole ball of yarn. Had President Bush had his way, the problems would have been averted.
So Obama says last night “when was the last time a bill this big went out without earmarks?” Isn’t he supposed to be the agent of change? Doesn’t really sound like he’s interested in change.
I don’t know how much Mr. Bookman is being paid, but it’s way too much for embedding a chart and typing 3 words. I know he thinks he’s being cute; he is not. Nor intelligent. Nor interesting. Nor informative. Even the AJC should be ashamed for keeping him on.
Taxpayer,
Nice analogy with the knife in the back.
Only thing is that you have to be careful when pulling a knife out of a stab wound, because you may get the knife out but cause more damage to unseen organs.
Obama is using fear the same way Bush did.
They both came into office with an idea/ pet project they wanted to get done.
Well Bush used 911 to scare up support for the Iraq war.
Now after a promise of change and a promise to end pork, Obama is now trying to scare people into signing or agreeing with the “stimulus”spending bill.
I see no difference in the action only in the perception.
Remember only 34% of America (last figure I saw) is still in support of this Bill.
Guess Obama thinks he is just smarter and more informed than any of the 66% of the nation. Remember Bush told us he knew what was best for us too, and he rushed into his project too. Guess we are all too dumb to decide what we want to spend OUR money on.
taxpayer my A$$, IF you actually paid taxes you wouldn’t be so happy with the Messiah’s plan like those of us who’s taxes support your liberal entilement programs…get a job and you won’t have all this free time to blog.
Amazing isn’t it how all of sudden the same republicans who were screaming, “Support The President”, are now throwing rocks at a president who has been in office less than 3 weeks! When he was president-elect, and took a much needed vacation for 2 weeks, these same people were screaming about how he was “lazing around and not doing the people’s business”; while that past President, (what WAS his name now?); was on vacation at his ranch 250 out of 365 days a year, for for eight years!!!
Amazing isn’t it how these same republicans can now state, emphatically, to “set aside the things that Bush did, cause he kept us “safe”, when it was BUSH, the republicans and their mixed up ideology, that got us into this mess in the first place!!! People are “safe” in 3rd world countries, they are also poor, their national treasuries decimated, and their people and economy wrecked beyond repair.
To paraphrase President Obama, “I inherited this mess. It was waiting for me when I crossed the White House Doors — I didn’t make it, look at the fool before me to find the culprit for that, don’t look at me! But now that I have this mess, I have to find a way to clean it up”.
Obama came across as arrogant and presumptuous in his little speech last night. He got the majority of votes in the election because people were looking for “change”. Not necessarily enormous, mindless and random government spending programs rammed down our throats with threatening, alarmist speeches to scare the country into a worse recession. How about an intelligent speech breaking down the bill and explaining how 3,000,000 jobs will be created. I know those road workers blocking the roads with the signs and the 5 standing around the ditch watching 1 guy work will like parts of it. But the thousands of educated workers who have been laid off from private companies are probably wondering how this gets them another job?
The following link shows the result of the Bush TAX CUTS from 2003 to 2005. You will see that revenues AFTER THE TAX CUTS went from 1.8 trillion to 2.15 trillion in 2 YEARS.
Which old ideas that don’t work is the messiah referring to?
Perhaps not doomed, just the realization that he is not the “one”. Though his desire to be responsible for the “care and feeding” of the massess” and journey to the promised land will continue…
To all those on here that don’t walk lockstep with Obama, Pelosi and the liberals, you must surely know that you cannot have a rational argument with these little “Jay-birds”. They don’t want to think for themselves. They want Obama and his Clintonite staff to do it for them. Their only recourse is vomit the same old bile up over and over again (8 year of Bush did this to us) They are unable to understand that the current situation was created by both parties and goes back as far as 1988 through three presidents. Mayber earlier.
Jaybird, sing loudly about Obama’s numbers now because they are not going to last. His core support constitutes about 40% of the population. He was elected by centrists that crossed over. The centrists will not stick with him if he continues down the path to Socialism. Centrists carry the power in this country. I will critisize and vote against any politician if they give reason (and most do). As a general rule, I trust none of them and question anything any of them do. The worrisome thing about this is the liberals don’t even want to question this trillion dollar bloat. It doesn’t matter if this thing get’s passed next week or next year. The result is going to be same. Jobs are still going to be lost and the stock market is still going to suffer and credit is going to be tight for a very long time. Obama’s seems to want more to have a feather in his cap than a package that will actually achieve what it is supposed to do. His haste makes a hell of a lot of people nervous, including me. Bush and his cronies pushed out the first dung heap in a hurry (against the wishes of this country). Now Obama is doing the same. Where does this leave us people?
First time I’ve read thru this blog - must say the majority of posts are the most immature drivel imaginable!
Grow up, Repulsicans, and admit that Bush and his cronies took a country in great shape and destroyed everything good about it. The economy is flushed, the whole world hates us, we’ve lost thousands of soldiers for a ridiculous, lied-about war, the constitution has been stomped on, our civil liberties were being destroyed, and religion was seeping insidiously into all areas of government, where it absolutely does not belong. There was a very valid reason our forefathers embraced “separation of church and state”, but the bushies completely forgot about that.
Although Obama was not my first choice in the primaries, I hope and pray he can get this country back on an even (instead of evil) keel, bring jobs back to this country, get our economy out of the toilet, bring our soldiers back from Iraq, and make sure all American citizens are treated fairly.
chuck - Those just happen to be 3 of the 5 non-recession years of the Bush administraton. How were those tax revenues for 2008? Seems like all the states are faing massive shortfalls, imagine the fed revenue took a hit too. Why didn’t all those tax breaks for the rich and deficit spending keep tax revenues high for 2008 and 2009?
cl if you read the entire blog you’d see the “most immature drivel imaginable!” is not just from the conservatives…..but your 2nd paragraph is telling as to why you think that. We all hope or at least most of us hoped that Obama could do what you said in your 3rd paragraph but this government growth package he’s pushing is not the way to do it.
Doomed? Well, maybe soon. Daily Kos reports that while Obama’s approval rating is even higher than what Bookman reports, the approval/disapproval margin has fallen 10 points in one week. What a fickle thing popularity ratings are, especially in an electorate as uneducated as ours.
I 2nd the comment by fed up. In Jay’s blog most of the immature drivel is from his fans. I think the economy was doing quite well until the mortgage meltdown and the gas speculation fraud bubble. Think of how many people’s jobs are related to housing and the auto industry? That is what is killing the economy right now. Not Bush’s tax cuts you idiots. The spending by both parties didn’t help either. You want jobs then pass legislation that will incentivize expanding companies and forming new ones. Incentives to buy cars. The democrats want to use this as an excuse to pass a lot of wasteful government spending. Let’s just nationalize everything and we all have government jobs with your salary set by your politicians in DC.
as usual bookman is a damn idiot yes osama hussien obama is doomed & everyone knows it he’s a damn idiot w/ saudia arab money backing him whatever happend to the southern DEMOCRAT that my parents & grandparents believed in the president for the comman man that worked & paid their TAXES
Me thinks Cher needs to be in the Cabinet. The Republicans almost killed her. What a brave soul to have to live in the same country that Republicans live in…..
all those southern democrats that your parents and grandparents believed in - well they despised the voting rights act that Pres. Johnson (democrat) gets the credit for (how dare blacks be allow to vote! and have their rights protected!! ) this action by LBJ made those old school democrats like lovely gov. of Alabama George Wallace a little angry so they all left the party and most of them became …well…REPUBLICANS!
cont- footnote- old Gov. Wallace ran a couple of elections as a member of the american ind party? go figure?? he never became of Republican- he was really on this whole southern thing ..like reallllly hard.
Since the Federal Government is the largest recipient of taxpayer money, I propose the salary of all Federal government employees be capped at $100,000 per year. That’s a good living for those in service to their country.
Commenting is open from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. M-F
Post a comment
*HTML not allowed in comments. Your e-mail address is required.
Comments
By Mike
February 6, 2009 6:27 AM | Link to this
Are you still freaking out that a partisan hack pundit made a silly claim? Get over it. That is what partisan hack pundits do, Jay. For example, one partisan hack pundits claimed that the Christian Right doesn’t believe in the bible. Is that any less silly?
As I have said before, your lack of self-awareness is amusing.
By AJC/DNC Management
February 6, 2009 6:36 AM | Link to this
Doomed? Who said he was doomed?
We said he was a dunce.
And since half of the US population are also dunces, no matter what blowhard baraKKK does, they will always be fond of him, their little kult leader, guiding them through their empty, Godless heathen existence .
Well, at least until the depression kicks in next month.
Then he’ll be…………doomed.
ew
By Andy the Welcher
February 6, 2009 6:43 AM | Link to this
But I’ll bet he’s not a Welcher. (not with you Andy, bekkkause we all know you’re a Welcher)
ew
By Caveman
February 6, 2009 6:47 AM | Link to this
How dare Obama try to reign in CEO pay. They deserve every penny they steal from their stockholders. Only union workers should face mandatory paycuts, not CEOs.
The elites always gain, the unwashed masses feel the pain. That’s the conservative way. It’s working pretty well in Saudi Arabia, the conservative paradise.
By Mike
February 6, 2009 6:53 AM | Link to this
Caveman -
Yes because no liberals are wealthy. Excellent point!
By JAY BOOKMAN
February 6, 2009 7:01 AM | Link to this
Why Michael, what a partisan thing to say!
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 7:03 AM | Link to this
I saw another lonely Republican talking to another person the day. He was mumbling, “I am relevant, I am relevant, I am relevant,” over and over and over. Finally, he had to stop to catch his breath. The other person took advantage of the break and looked at the Republican and said, “Why, that’s just crazy talk. You are not relevant and saying that you are over and over will not change the facts.”
The poor Republican caught his breath and started over, “I am relevant…” He continued this moaning until the end of the work day when he and the other Republican congressmen headed out the door in the directions of their favorite bars. You could still hear them mumbling as they moved off into the distance.
By Mike
February 6, 2009 7:06 AM | Link to this
JAY -
What is a partisan thing to say? That conservative hack pundits and liberal hack pundits are equally dishonest?
Pointing out that the claim that conservatives are the only “wealthy elites” is silly as there are many liberal “wealthy elites”?
Please explain to which group the above statements make me partisan.
By ByteMe
February 6, 2009 7:16 AM | Link to this
As always: it’s only a matter of time.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 7:23 AM | Link to this
Obama is doomed? Yep, a pig (sans lipstick) just flew in the window and delivered the news.
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 7:28 AM | Link to this
And all the little Republicans will gather around today and tell us all about how Obama is doomed. Just look at how his ratings are plummeting. 8>)
By DB, Gwinnettian
February 6, 2009 7:30 AM | Link to this
Whew. Jay, for a minute there I thought I’d go online and read that you thought Charles Krauthammer had made some “good points” in his latest hysterical screed about Obama, published in today’s dead tree edition.
By Paul
February 6, 2009 7:37 AM | Link to this
What is it, a three-point shift? Probably within the margin of error for polls of that sort.
If we were going to be treated to poll analysis, I was hoping for the latest Gallup or Rasmussen regarding public support for the stimulus bill - one-week, two week, one month shifts. Kinda gives a clue why time is of the essence…
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 7:45 AM | Link to this
So how bad is the number at 8:30 going to be?
By AJC/DNC Management
February 6, 2009 7:46 AM | Link to this
Oh.
Poor wittle Peggy’s crush is wearing off-
{{{{His serious and consequential policy mistake is that he put his prestige behind not a new way of breaking through but an old way of staying put. This marked a dreadful misreading of the moment. And now he’s digging in. His political mistake, which in retrospect we will see as huge, is that he remoralized the Republicans. He let them back in the game.
Mr. Obama has a talent for reviving his enemies. He did it with Hillary Clinton, who almost beat him after his early wins, and who was given the State Department. He has now done it with Republicans on the Hill. This is very nice of him, but not in his interests.-Noonan, WSJ}}}}
Adrift in the fever swamps, the forlorn dimwit realizes she jumped out of a perfectly good airplane and landed slam into the drink, so what’s a good Benedict Arnold to do but start backstabbing the “new” love of her life?
Have fun with her, y’all.
By Paul
February 6, 2009 8:00 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla
On the shift in public support for the bill (not the President’s approval rating)? It’s reversed, as I understand. More over what the public sees as excessive nonstimulus spending.
Watched an interview with the mayor of Shreveport, LA. He was asked about the 8 Harleys for the police force, water slides, etc. He spoke of crumbling roads, unsafe bridges, and infrastructure. He was asked about the Harleys and such. Answered they showed “the full range of needs of the states” - then went on about crumbling roads, bridges etc. He was asked how much they’d requested for road and bridge repair. He spoke of the full range of needs…
What a politician.
BTW - ever looked to see how much of the stimulus bill spending is for road, bridge and sewer line repair?
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 8:01 AM | Link to this
So, Obama is reported to have ditched the teleprompter and gone after some of his critics. He was mocking them and even rejecting their proposal for more tax cuts. Good for him. The minority party has to either learn its place or have Obama point it out to them.
By KKK Management
February 6, 2009 8:09 AM | Link to this
I would personally like to thankkk AJC/DNC Management for his kkkontribution to our kkkause. Sure as Obama is a ‘dunce’ as shown by his recird at Harvard and UofChi, he is equally doomed.
Again thankkk you AJC/DNC Management you are beakkkon to us all. Best, The Grand Dragon & KKK Management
By AJC/DNC Management
February 6, 2009 8:11 AM | Link to this
{{{{“There’s no message out of the White House,” said one House Democrat, who faulted Obama for letting the Republicans and the media own the P.R. battle on the bill.
“We are getting plucked apart on these stimulus issues.- Politico}}}}
Maybe he is doomed.
{{{{A new Gallup poll finds that only 38 percent of Americans want the Obama stimulus plan passed without major changes. Nor do they have a whole lot of confidence in it.-US News}}}}
And we are more than happy to help him with his suicide mission-
{{{{Several of the GOP’s most prominent governors blasted the stimulus plan making its way through Congress Thursday, urging Senate Republicans to resist passing the bill and taking aim at what they called unnecessary spending in the package.-Politico}}}}
Two and a half weeks was all it took to totally devastate your own presidency, unreal, you now have two choices-
1) Shove it down the country’s throat.
2) Give the Republicans a huge victory.
Bwahahahahahahaha, ow!
Stop it!!!!
By Shawny
February 6, 2009 8:13 AM | Link to this
Hopefully, like GWB, he will not play to the polls and instead, do what he thinks is best for us. Poll watching is for losers.
By AJC/DNC Management
February 6, 2009 8:13 AM | Link to this
{{{{Under insistent questioning from a Senate panel, Mr. Panetta said that in extreme cases, if interrogators were unable to extract critical information from a terrorism suspect, he would seek White House approval for the C.I.A. to use methods that would go beyond those permitted under the new rules.-NY Times}}}}
Bwahahahahahahahaha, ow!
Stop it!!!!
By Mike
February 6, 2009 8:13 AM | Link to this
JAY -
I guess you have no response to my question. I love how you swoop in with silly comments directed at individuals and then scurry away when challenged on them. Nothing new about that.
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 8:15 AM | Link to this
If you have not read some of Obama’s comments about the Republicans, they’re well worth the read. I think he’s tired of hearing the minority party proclaiming themselves as being anything more than the minority party. When dealing with a Republican, the best strategy is to call them out and tell them to put up or shut up. They clearly don’t know that their best strategy at that point is to shut up and so they proceed to just make themselves look like bigger idiots by saying something predictable such as “We need more tax cuts.”
By DB, Gwinnettian
February 6, 2009 8:18 AM | Link to this
Mike @ 8.13 - You are free to go pee in someone else’s backyard.
By DB, Gwinnettian
February 6, 2009 8:27 AM | Link to this
Rooting around the source of this polling chart, I happened upon this entry from a little over a year ago, well before the primary race was decided, which I thought was worth quoting
The stat they fixed upon was a response to the question asked about Hillary, Edwards, and Obama: “Who do you think has more honesty/integrity”? Obama led second-place Hillary by 13 points. About which, pollster.com’s Mark Blumenthal comments, with the emphasis mine:
=====
“(Hillary) Clinton still holds enormous advantages on foreign policy, health care and the economy and for having the ‘right experience.’ ‘Honesty/integrity,’ however, is easily her her weakest dimension, and one of Obama’s strongest, as other surveys have shown in recent months.
“How important are perceptions of integrity and trust? Very. Drawing on decades of opinion poll data, political scientists identify two central traits — competence and integrity — that drive judgements about presidents and presidential candidates. ‘Presidents are judged,’ wrote Professor Donald Kinder (with whom I once studied at the University of Michigan), ‘by their intelligence, knowledge and experience on the one hand, and by their honesty, decency and ability to set a good moral example on the other’. Candidates that are perceived to be otherwise qualified and competent lose when voters find them lacking in terms of honesty and trust.”
======
That should’ve been the tip-off for most, back in January 2008, that Obama was going to win this thing. And it’s what will hold him in good stead with the voting public in these battles ahead.
For all the GOP’s considerable skill in framing individual issues and winning occasional media battles, their overall standing with the public is not where they need to be, nor do I see it changing any time soon.
By Mike
February 6, 2009 8:31 AM | Link to this
“Mike @ 8.13 - You are free to go pee in someone else’s backyard”
Thanks for providing your usual enlightening and intelligent commentary. You are a true intellectual.
Taxpayer -
Stop whining.
By Road Scholar
February 6, 2009 8:35 AM | Link to this
One must realize that the stimulus package is for a short term jumpstart of the economy. In respect to infrastructure, esp roads and bridges, the Federal legislation for those expires this year and a new bill will need to be crafted. It usually covers 6 years, so only an immediate infusion to create jobs is initially needed.
Any long term infrastructure will need to be funded through the new legislation. The hardest thing then is to determine where the money comes from… the payout contained in the appropriations bill over the past 5 years has not approach the legislation total, nor has it met the needs. Should the gas tax be increased? Adjusted to inflation? Other sources of income?
By Charles
February 6, 2009 8:40 AM | Link to this
I guess the mainstream media is beginning to figure out Obama isn’t the Messiah. After the inauguration he didn’t walk across the waters of the Reflecting Pool, he didn’t feed the crowd with one basket of bread and fish …. and Chris Mathews hasn’t had any more tingles up his legs!
What will they tell the mindless voters who voted for him now? Oh yeah, keep repeating their mantra … Blame Bush, Blame Bush (and ignore the fact that once the Democraps held the purse strings of Congress things went down the tubes).
By DB, Gwinnettian
February 6, 2009 8:41 AM | Link to this
“Thanks for providing your usual enlightening and intelligent commentary. You are a true intellectual.”
Well, no, Mike, I never claimed to be—like you, I’m just some jackoff posting intermittently entertaining tidbits and factoids on the Intertubes as time and life permit.
For a true intellectual, you gotta get with “CommunistAJC.” Aside from asserting with every post that a for-profit media company is somehow “Communist,” this guy has hisseff a Em Bee Ay from the Duke. I’m sure he won’t mind me bringing that up because he manages to mention his fabulous kree-denshuls and his boner Fee-days unabashedly.
Later, all. Don’t push anyone down a flight of stairs.
By getalife
February 6, 2009 8:41 AM | Link to this
“Don’t come to table with the same tired arguments and worn ideas that helped create this crisis,” said Obama. “We’re not going to get relief by turning back to the very same policies that in eight short years doubled the national debt and threw our economy into a tailspin.”
The job report was close to 600 thousand not 500 thousand jobs lost.
It is the gop that are doomed,
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 8:43 AM | Link to this
Meanwhile, where are all the Republicans when it comes to talks of regulation and oversight. I have a feeling that they might not want to push that philosophy for at least another fifty years or more especially around folks that were victimized by Madoff. Of course, they were not the only ones hurt by Wall Street’s scum and the Republican enablers. Then, there’s Saxby Chambliss criticizing the lack of oversight and regulations at that Georgia peanut processing plant. He sure abandoned those Republican core principles in an effort to save his sorry hide. Talk about the hen house — it would be better off fighting off the wolves than having him guard it. What a worthless piece of Republican trash. I will never forget how that sugar industry lapdog went after that guy that tried to save people from harm at that Savannah sugar plant. I would not waste my spit on him.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 8:45 AM | Link to this
Wasn’t it John McCain’s “moses” add that started the silliest of the GOP calling President Obama the Messiah?
What a funny minority the GOP is.
By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
February 6, 2009 8:48 AM | Link to this
Shawny 8:13 AM
You set the new standard for BDS afflication when you wrote, “Hopefully, like GWB, he will not play to the polls and instead, do what he thinks is best for us.”
If there was one hallmark of the Bush Presidency, it was that President Bush did that which he believed to be in America’s best interests - polls be damned. The surge is one great example.
Obama, on the other hand, since his emergence into the public eye has been like swamp grass - changing based on which way the winds blow.
By fed up
February 6, 2009 8:56 AM | Link to this
Obama is not doomed….yet. If he keeps making “campaign speeches” though he might be. I’m not sure why he can’t sit down with both parties for however long it takes to hammer this thing out. Instead he goes to Virginia (where the Dems are having a retreat on our money) and makes a speech slamming Bush and admitting that this is a spending package. He’s right this is a spending package, a government spending package that the majority of the spending will not hit the economy for 2-3 years. He said tax cuts don’t work. How about payroll tax cuts for 2 years? Those are not the same cuts that Bush made. The “jobs” that are supposedly this bill is going to create are really “work” and when the work is done, the jobs are gone.
By Vinny
February 6, 2009 9:00 AM | Link to this
CBO: Obama stimulus harmful over long haul
President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.
Read all about it - Barry the bumbler doesn’t have a clue
By CommunistAJC
February 6, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this
Is stimulus right for you?
Call Doctor Obama Hussein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEDIyztZGBA
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 9:08 AM | Link to this
Bush and his band of Republican cronies will definitely go down in the history books and it will not be for anything good. He and his party’s failed policies have left us with the most job losses in January since Nixon’s pathetic days in Washington and the most losses in a 12-month period since 1939. Wow. Good job, Bush and you other loser Republicans.
By CommunistAJC
February 6, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this
Bookman, do you drink yourself to sleep thinking about how much you hate Christians, Victor Davis Hanson and Rush Limbaugh?
By CommunistAJC
February 6, 2009 9:13 AM | Link to this
This is what happens when RINOs and democrats run a beautiful state into the ground with government.
Furlough Fridays begin for Calif. state workers
Feb 6 07:40 AM US/Eastern By JUDY LIN
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - More than 200,000 state government employees were expected to stay home without pay Friday as California began its first-ever furlough, a move intended to save money during an ongoing fiscal crisis.
State agencies scrambled in the days before the furloughs took effect to avoid confusion for the public, such as people trying to register vehicles or obtain professional licenses.
Among the offices to be closed Friday are those of the Department of Motor Vehicles and Department of Consumer Affairs. The governor’s Office of Emergency Services also would be dark as part of a cash-saving move ordered by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Critical and revenue-generating agencies were scheduled to remain open, including fire stations, parks and employment centers that process unemployment insurance claims. California’s unemployment rate is 9.3 percent, a 15-year high.
Schwarzenegger ordered the two-day-a-month furloughs, reducing the average state worker’s salary by 9.2 percent, as he and lawmakers try to solve the state’s $42 billion budget shortfall.
The governor had hoped his order would apply to some 238,000 state employees, but each of the seven other constitutional officers have said they will not comply. Employees of the Legislature are not under his authority.
Schwarzenegger’s legal affairs secretary, Andrea Hoch, said the administration was prepared to sue the state controller if he did not reduce paychecks for more than 15,000 workers in the other constitutional offices, which include the attorney general, secretary of state and insurance commissioner.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96631BG0&show_article=1
By KKK Management
February 6, 2009 9:19 AM | Link to this
Dear AJC/DNC Management, Thankkks again. I kkkouldn’t have said it better myself. You are a ekkkellent representative of our fraturnal brotherhood kkklub. The Grand Dragon
By Rascal
February 6, 2009 9:24 AM | Link to this
How do liberals have so much faith in a government that fails in every area it sticks its’ nose? There has been little to no free market in this country since Hoover and FDR caused a great depression and thus began the end of our great American Experiment. Thanks liberals, you are close to your goal of recreating the failed European Socialist Society.
By CommunistAJC
February 6, 2009 9:30 AM | Link to this
This guy knows a HELL of a lot more about politics than Bookman.
Democrats Write Off ‘Crimes’ as ‘Mistakes’
By: Michael Reagan
You can’t help but wonder whether Democrats pay ever taxes. It seems from the headlines that the way the system works is that Democrats levy taxes, but only Republicans have to pay them.
For a president who said he was going to preside over the most ethical administration in history, Barack Obama has shown an astounding talent for being able to find appointees who mistakenly manage to forget to pay their taxes.
Just look at Timothy Geithner, for example. The new Treasury secretary — the man who oversees the IRS — forgot to pay $34,000 in taxes. Tom Daschle had to pay $128,203 in back taxes and $11,964 in interest after he learned he was going to be nominated as secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and he later withdrew from consideration. Obama’s appointee Nancy Killefer withdrew her candidacy to be the first “chief performance officer” for the federal government because she messed up paying payroll taxes on her household help.
Then there’s Charlie Rangel, head of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, who didn’t pay his taxes. And Al Franken, who might be a new Democratic senator from Minnesota thanks to the peculiar way they count votes in his state, didn’t pay his taxes, either. The congresswoman who was appointed to fill Hillary’s vacant seat in the Senate did not pay her taxes.
Not to worry, though. It appears that none of these people committed offenses. They merely made “mistakes.”
Speaking of Daschle, the president said: “Tom made a mistake, which he has openly acknowledged … He has not excused it, nor do I. But that mistake and this decision cannot diminish the many contributions Tom has made to this country.”
No Democrats ever commit crimes. They merely make mistakes.
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 9:31 AM | Link to this
I saw a little video clip of Glenn Richardson munching out on some Georgia peanuts. Wow. Such courage. I wonder if he would be willing to eat a big scoop of peanut butter from a container with the salmonella in it. I think Georgia’s Republican politicians need to start eating peanut butter sandwiches — just like the one’s that school kids were getting — made with peanut butter from Blakeley, GA. Yum Yum. Do you value your kids as much as the “family values” Republicans do.
By Bosch
February 6, 2009 9:33 AM | Link to this
I’m glad to see the stimulus plan being questioned, as I think all government spending should be questioned.
There definitely hasn’t been enough of that lately, and it’s a nice change to see so many people at least attempting to act fiscally responsible.
And certainly doing nothing is an option as well.
But if the stimulus package does not go through and the powers that be decide to do nothing, then everyone is going to have to live with the results: more unemployed and more home foreclosures, which means more people on social welfare programs - but who am I kidding, that’s going to happen anyway.
I certainly agree with Obama that the way we’ve been doing things (tax cuts and spending like drunken sailors) has proved to be a formula for economic disaster. But maybe tax cuts with little spending will do better? I don’t know - I’m no economist. Spending money on infrastructure and reducing our need for foreign oil? I certainly like that. A little of both?
Obama is not the savior of us all and will not fix this, our attitudes as consumers (realizing that we do not need every shiny gadget that hits the stores from China and 100 pairs of shoes, and our homes decorated with cheap Pier One sh!t from Indonesia or China) is what will fix it.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 9:35 AM | Link to this
Hoover AND FDR caused the great depression
I would be ROTHLOL if it weren’t so darn dumb!
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 9:38 AM | Link to this
*January job losses: 598,000
*Job losses from Nov-Jan: 1.8 million
*Unemployment rate: 7.6%
*Unemployed workers: 11.6 million
Stimulating Numbers, eh?
By AJC/DNC Management
February 6, 2009 9:39 AM | Link to this
-PULLED
Remember Management, no personal attacks unless you are a whiny little liberal parading around as “Andy the Welcher,” “KKK Management” or “Dogs against Management,” those are alright, bwa.
ew
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 9:41 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
I know what you mean. It’s hard sometimes to stop laughing long enough to tell the little idiots what little idiots they are.
By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
February 6, 2009 9:44 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla 9:38 AM
It his truly sad hopw the Reid/Pelatio congress ran the vibrant Bush economy into the ground in less than 2 yrs.
By RealityKing
February 6, 2009 9:49 AM | Link to this
No, Obama is not doomed, yet. He’s just showing us that he is a complete failure as a centrist leader.., Look!, even Nancy is running rough sod over him.
That whole progressive idea about conservatism being dead in America on the other hand.., Look! The Phoenix has risen!!
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 9:49 AM | Link to this
Byll
“Reid/Pelatio” clever, but probably counterproductive to your being taken too seriosly.
Not to mention that whole vibrant Bush economy thing.
Dennis Miller and Ben Stein are probably shaking in their loafers….
By KKK Management
February 6, 2009 9:54 AM | Link to this
**AJC/DNC Management please try again. We need you to kkkeep up your helpful promotional akkktivities thru your brilliant posts and insight.
The Grand Dragon**
By Choices
February 6, 2009 9:58 AM | Link to this
I’m not sure what this post is suppose to mean but Pres. Obama is not doomed it is the Republican party that’s doomed especially when Rep. P. Gingley has to grovel to an ex-drug addict for forgiveness.
As far as the taxes go I must admit that the Democrats do not like to pay taxes it is unbelievable BUT then the Republicans have a thing for little boys and girls for ex.Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, John Bolton, George W. Bush, Larry Craig, Bob Barr, Philip Giordano, Rush Limbaugh etc. What would you rather have someone who doesn’t pay taxes or someone you can’t leave your young child around???
By Get Real
February 6, 2009 10:02 AM | Link to this
Republicans are mere sore losers. They want to blame all the ills on thise country to when Democrats took over in ‘06. If I recall the only meaningful legislation Pelosi and crew were able to pass in the first 100 days of being in the majority were extending unemployment benefits and raising the minimum wage. I challenge any republican to find some enormous spending bill that the slim majority was able to pass that wasn’t vetoed by Bush. From ‘02-‘06 W. never vetoed a single bill. He got his big tax cuts as soon as he took office so I would ask where is the job creation and spending that were to come from those cuts?
The republican party is out of ideas, and all they can do is shift blame for their failed policies. The fundamentals of the economy were strong mere months ago, and now we have the highest unemployment rate in 30 years. The lack of reality to admit the BushCo really fcked things up is amazing. Now that a gift wrapped trd of an economy was waiting for Obama on his first day, this so called conservatives want to restrain spending. Where were these fiscal principles when the enormous tax cuts were passed? What about all the Iraq appropriations that were basically put on a credit car for ‘future generations to pay’? And that giant Medicare spending bill? There wasn’t a need to control spending then, but now that millions of people are out of work, you want to be the party of no. Get real man. Go sit in a corner and let the adults clean up this mess. Republicans haven’t earned a seat at the table after the performance they put on for 8 years. Small government; Terry Schiavo. Republican principles; Valerie Plame. Fiscal spending; Iraq, tax cuts, and trillion dollar medicare spending. The democrats aren’t perfect but I hope Obama continues what he did last night and mops the floor with the likes of Graham, Boehner, and Cantor. He already has dismissed McCain. If the stimulus package doesn’t pass, republicans will then blame Obama for doing nothing. They’re out of ideas and have nothing else to offer except play defense and block everything.
By mm
February 6, 2009 10:02 AM | Link to this
Wyld Byll Bullshytter,
Please name one thing the Dems passed that wrecked Bush’s “sound” economy. You know the GOP blocked every bill, and if one passed, Bush vetoed it.
By Midori
February 6, 2009 10:02 AM | Link to this
This thread is a hoot today.
Especially the comment on the “vibrant Bush economy”.
Delusion knows no bounds.
Time to go to the Farmer’s Market. They make some mighty tasty samosas.
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this
Further, if the Republicans cannot have another tax cut, then they want to do nothing. If only Bush and his Republican party had chosen to do nothing when they were in power. We’d actually be in pretty good shape right now. Now, we just have to remind them of their minority status in our society as we go about fixing their many screwups. There are just so many screwups from these Republicans. Why couldn’t they at least get something, one thing, anything at all, right.
By the way, Dick, you will be safe under your bed. We won’t let those mean old 16-year old “terrorists” that you tortured come and get you.
By RealityKing
February 6, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this
Obama says that we can not continue the ways of the past that doubled the national debt. Then he says from his other mouth that we must pass his historically humungus pork barrel laiden spending bill without further discussion to preserve the economy. And all this from a man who picked tax cheaters to fill his cabinet!!(eyes rolling wildly round and round)
By fed up
February 6, 2009 10:13 AM | Link to this
choices I’d rather not have either of those choices. But on topic, lets have a government by the people/for the people instead of the hacks we’ve got running it now. This stimulus package is nothing more than a big government package that our children, our grandchildren and possibly even our great grandchildren will be paying back. The spending is not even going to “hit the streets” for 2-3 years. Obama needs to be a leader instead of a campaigner and get down to the people’s business.
By The GodBlogger
February 6, 2009 10:17 AM | Link to this
Our white house is in a very very very fine mess. the speaker wears a dress…with d’crats living large; their earmarks going yard……
By Get Real
February 6, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this
RealityKing, what solution would you offer to get out this mess? I would love for the private sector to do what they do to pull us out of this mess, but based on the wonderful job Wall St. CEOs, mortgage lenders, and other job sectors have done, government has to step in. So I would honestly ask you, what plan do you have other than tax cuts to turn the economy around. As an aside, Bush and REPUBLICANS passed the largest tax cuts in U.S. history and how did that work out?
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 10:21 AM | Link to this
The GOP:
STAY THE COURSE ON THE ECONOMY
By Get Real
February 6, 2009 10:24 AM | Link to this
Fed up, who do you think is going to pay for the Iraq War, and the Medicare spending bill? Bush callously slipped spending for Iraq in appropriations bills, not in any fiscal year budget as every other president in war time as done. As a matter of fact, Bush was the only president to cut taxes during a time of war. So exactly who is getting down to the people’s business? And your statement about spending not ‘hitting the street’ for 2-3 years is false. The money would be given to state and local governments within 90-180 days, which is a provision of the bill. We can have an honest debate if its based on facts, and not heresay. What else would you do to turn the economy around? People on this blog like AJC management want nothing more than to attack the president for every action, but Obama has offered more bipartisan leadership in 3 weeks than Bush did in 8 years. As anyone noticed that republicans act as if the last 8 years never happened, and every problem we face now started on 1/21/09.
By Th
February 6, 2009 10:24 AM | Link to this
Pretty good summary of the economic arguments regarding the stimulus bill from the Washington Post business columnist (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/05/AR2009020503413.html).
By RealityKing
February 6, 2009 10:30 AM | Link to this
At least Obama gave an elegant speech last night. Did he write that one too? The way he articulate those progressive words was magnificent…, wasn’t it?
“the scale and the scope of this economic plan is right”
“Don’t come to the table with the same tired arguments and worn ideas that helped to create this crisis”
“We’re not going to get relief by turning back to the very same policies that, for the last eight years, doubled the national debt and threw our economy into a tailspin”
“I don’t care whether you’re driving a hybrid or an SUV — if you’re headed for a cliff, you’ve got to change direction.”
“This is not a contest for who’s in power and who’s up and who’s down.”
“It’s time to set aside the gamesmanship in this town and get something done.”
“you have the capacity to do great things” on behalf of the American people, but we are going to have to do it by not thinking about ourselves.”
Fabulously written clichés, don’t you think?? And I’d almost swear there was no panic in his voice..
By The GodBlogger
February 6, 2009 10:35 AM | Link to this
th, here’s your chance: give us your summary of that link in 25 words or less, and find yourself in my think tank.
By fed up
February 6, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this
Sorry get real you might need to live up to your name. The stimulus package is nothing more than a get bigger government bill. It’s not going to stimulate the economy. I’m not picking on Obama, I’m talking about everybody in Washington. They are nothing more than hacks getting paid off by lobbyists to push through whatever the lobbyists want them to push through. Are you going to try to tell me money for STD, money for global warming, money for lawn care, money for community activist groups such as ACORN are going to stimulate the economy? If you are tell me how. Let’s quit comparing how Obama does things versus Bush, that gets nothing done. I don’t necessarily think Obama making a speech at the resort Democrats have gone to (on our $$) is being bipartisan. He needs to sit down with leaders on both sides of the aisle and get something done that truly stimulates the economy.
By LB
February 6, 2009 10:37 AM | Link to this
In an article titled “No More Mr. Nice Guy” on today’s Yahoo home page Obama made a statement during a Q&A that totally blew me away. Here is the copy and paste:
Rhode Island Rep. Jim Langevin, who hasn’t been able to walk since he was 16, asked Obama if he would remove the executive ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Yes, Obama replied, but only after he and congressional leaders figure out a way to prevent opponents from overturning it.
What does he mean when by “prevent opponents from overturning it.” This is not a statement that represents democracy, but instead, it represents dictatorship. Obama is very loose with words and acts very quickly without doing any homework. This mindset is what will throw the USA into some serious consequences if he doesn’t start thinking with his brain instead of know it all lip service.
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 10:38 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
“stay the course” as in more of the same. I think we should give Republicans a treat — free food. Processed peanut butter products from, you know where. Then, we have some leftover jalapenos. Of course, they’ll need to wash it down with something substantial. I know where there are some wells that are just overflowing. They just happen to be located underneath a bunch of toxic ash that spilled out of a retention pond at a coal-burning power plant. Now, that’s some good stuff. Never mind the after taste.
By Get Real
February 6, 2009 10:39 AM | Link to this
I would say those ‘cliches’ are just stating fact. For conservatives to scream about spending now is the height of hypocrisy. It IS time to set aside gamesmanship and get something done. What do republicans know about job creation when the only job numbers presented for the last 8 years were smoke and mirrors. The GOP has lost all credibility in regards to finances, so I would argue that they need to sit down and let a responsible LEADER lead. He has tried to work with republicans, and I’m to the point where he should just say screm ‘em. Either way they will play the same political games.
By RealityKing
February 6, 2009 10:44 AM | Link to this
The answer is simple, try using some common sense. Exactly what the rest of us use to pay our bills on time while living within the boundries of our means. Otherwise.., we lose it all, right? Well guess what…, so does government.
Which means.., No more tax cuts! No more government growth!! And most of all, no more deficit spending!!!
Sure we’re going to feel some pain, but we deserve it now don’t we, certainly more than our children and grandchildren.
Easy peasy.
By fed up
February 6, 2009 10:45 AM | Link to this
taxpayer you’re a real class act.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 6, 2009 10:47 AM | Link to this
Some folks just don’t recognize the sound of that can opener…..opening up a can of whoop a$$….
By Get Real
February 6, 2009 10:48 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry, fed up, but didn’t Obama ‘sit down’ with republican house members AFTER Minority leader Boehner advised the republican caucus to oppose the stimulus bill? That isn’t acting in good faith to me. Obama even urged Pelosi to strip from the bill the amendment for contraceptives. And ACORN is one of many community organizations that provide low income heating assistance to the elderly and low income people, they also provide job training. Instead of hearing the opinion of the media, go to their website. Obama met one-on-one with Olympia Snow two days ago, and urged leaders of BOTH parties to eliminate waste from the bill. He gave his parameters of what he wanted, Congress drafted the bill. The way Obama and Bush do things are miles apart, just in two weeks, so there is no comparison. I wold like to see our elected officials work in god faith, but as I stated before it is complete hypocrisy for republicans to be concerned with spending now.
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 10:53 AM | Link to this
I know.
By Shawny
February 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Link to this
CHANGE = the same. Too bad, so sad.
In this article, Obama blasts the GOP on their position of tax cuts vs. spending. I like his ‘fire in the gut’ passion. I don’t necessarily agree with positioning of this bill, though.
There are 2 things that stand out. One is the argument that spending is needed, and that tax cuts just add to the deficit. But in the same article, Obama acknowledges that the spending adds to the deficit too, and I guess, argues that spending is a more effective way to add to the deficit than not spending and giving money back to taxpayers instead. To me, it is deficit one way or another. If spending, the money is directed to the govt and in a high percent of the cases, it is for stuff we don’t need. In tax cuts, the money gets used by consumers that buy what they need, increasing the value and stability of corporations that are in trouble. Tax cuts allow the money to flow where consumers see fit instead of where govt sees fit. Either way, it is borrowing against our future.
The other thing from this article that bother me is in a time of financial crisis, this meeting took place with “House Democrats at their annual retreat at the Kingsmill Resort and Spa.” nice. Glad someone can leave their regular office and go on a retreat.
By fed up
February 6, 2009 10:57 AM | Link to this
I mean really sit down, not have a brief meeting. Get out the pen/paper and sit down as long as it takes. Olympia Snow? Give me a break she votes with Dems more than she does with repubs. Again, get over how Bush did things, that’s over and behind us. IT might be hypocrisy for repubs to be concerned with spending now, so the answer to that is to just keep spending? I don’t think so. There are plenty of organizations that provide assistance to low income people, if that’s what Acorn is going to use the money for then the government can just give it to the low income people instead of using a middle man that skims off the top. He did give parameters of what he wanted and look what the house came up with. Unless they sit down and come up with some kind of a package besides this government growth bill we are in serious trouble as is many generations to come. I’m starting to think by reading these posts that a lot of people are more concerned about one side (dems or repubs) of getting their a$$ whipped than what is really good for this country. That’s really sad.
By Greg Mendel
February 6, 2009 10:59 AM | Link to this
The Democrats are rearranging the deck chairs. The Republicans are trying to patch the hole by hitting another iceberg. Welcome to the Titanic.
By mp
February 6, 2009 11:01 AM | Link to this
Jay…you’re like chicken little.
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 11:08 AM | Link to this
What Bush and the Republicans did is behind us all right. Now, if we could only get a grip on the handle and pull it out and plug the bleeding so we can start to recover. But, the minority Republicans say, NO. That knife stuck in your back is there for your own good. Leave it alone and you’ll get used to it. You just need time. Here, have another dose of morphine. You see, doesn’t that feel better. There’s nothing quite like more of the same, now is there.
By fed up
February 6, 2009 11:10 AM | Link to this
shawny don’t you know the politicians know how to spend our money better than we do, ha ha. That’s why we’re all working (those that are fortunate enough to have a job still) and they’re at a retreat on our $$ instead of getting together and truly getting something done.
By getalife
February 6, 2009 11:17 AM | Link to this
The President is acting on his campaign promises. He threw down the gauntlet on the gop to come up with new ideas. They have none and doubt they are able to change.
The gop are doomed .
By Taxpayer
February 6, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this
I just love hearing Republicans complain about a Democrat that makes a mistake and does not pay all their taxes while trying their best at the same time to get legislation passed to eliminate taxes. They deliberately ignore the wealthy and corporations that set up off shore or take advantage of other schemes to illegally avoid paying their taxes while approving expenditures to go after people making poverty-level income to make sure that they pay all their taxes. Republicans are not only hypocrites, they’re also perverts.
Anyway, time to go out for a three hour lunch. Dang, retirement is nice.
By RW-(the original)
February 6, 2009 11:40 AM | Link to this
Chalk up another blunder for the newbie in the White House. Now he drops charges, albeit hopefully temporarily, against the Cole bomber being tried at Gitmo and asks the families just yesterday to travel to the White House on their own dime today for a photo op.
On another note, is there some reason why we the people have to pay for a lavish luncheon in the East Room every time Obama wants to introduce whatever tax cheat he’s added to our payroll?
By Soothsayer
February 6, 2009 11:48 AM | Link to this
You’ve done it to yourself America. You wanted cheaper prices, you kept shopping at Walmart and now you’ve paid the price dearly in jobs lost.
By RW-(the original)
February 6, 2009 11:51 AM | Link to this
Gotta love it! Since O is about 45 minutes late for the lunch we’re buying him they’re showing a wide shot of the East Room. All he’s supposed to do is introduce his economic advisory board, but if you guessed he could do that without his teleprompter you would be wrong.
By Mike
February 6, 2009 11:53 AM | Link to this
Taxpayer -
Stop whining.
By Soothsayer
February 6, 2009 11:53 AM | Link to this
[In addition, there is the huge mortgage loan crisis that is cooking in a deadly fashion that will boil over in 4-5 years. The huge mortgage loan fiasco that is going to occur will cause a near depression within 4-5 years due to “tricky dicky” mortgage financing that has occured and is occuring by third party loan brokers and sub-prime lenders with low teaser rates of 2% the first 3 to 5 years to sell homes. They are doing this to basically get unqualified people who could not actually afford the regular mortgage payment at a regular interest rate. When these payments double and in some caes triple monthly, these people will not be able to afford a payment that has jumped from $750.00 a month to over $1,400.00 a month. This will result in a huge foreclosure of homes. Combined with these job losses, it is a nightmare that most Americans have no idea is coming within 4-5 years.
Warning to all my readers. This will also cause the stock exchanges all over the world, including NASDAQ to lose its highest valuation in over 30 years. Trillions will be lost in retirement accounts. This is all due to banking regulations that were done away during the Reagan years, 1984 and 1986 that I have already written about.
My suggestion, if you have 401 K’S or retirement accounts vested in stocks in banks, or any of these other areas, REIT mortgage loan packages, move them into safe funds or even bank CD’s. You will not earn as much but you will not lose thousands of dollars in the coming fianancial meltdown that will occur in 4-5 years when all of this collapses.
Last and the only solution to this…we must begin to bring the jobs back home. Corporations can no longer receive tax credits for opening up factories overseas. America must become the manufacturing giant again she once was. Tarriffs need to be put in place to secure American jobs, something the Bush administations refuses to see they must do to stop this exodus of jobs in America. We need to make our own steel to make our own military hardward, not buying the steel from China of all places. Have the idiots in Washington lost their minds?](http://www.dldewey.com/columns/feb04f.htm)
When you consider that this was written in 2004, it’s amazing how accurately this man predicted the current situation.
By AJC/DNC Management
February 6, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this
{{{{Groups that were critical of the Bush faith-based office issued statements Thursday expressing disappointment in the Obama version. All said that by failing to repeal Bush policies, the White House will allow participating religious groups to continue discrimination in hiring.-Urinal/kult of baraKKK}}}}
Bwahahahahahaha, ow!
Stop it!!!!
~~~~~~
{{{{Coleman seizes on newfound ballots; Hopes lifted as votes missed in recount turn up…}}}}
Heh.
By Get Real
February 6, 2009 12:08 PM | Link to this
What would do to get things back on track fed up? What is an alternative to this stimulus package? Corporations are laying everyone off, not hiring. Tax cuts simply means the government is collecting less money. Is that ‘common sense’ if you’re a family; cut your hours at work when your bills are increasing? I don’t agree with democrats on all issues, but in this instance what is the alternative?? I agree, take all the crap out. Congress can’t agree on whats good or bad in the legislation. Production and spending is grinding to a literal halt. Everyone is trying to hold on to what they have moneywise. Cut capital gains? Well less than 20% of Americans even pay this tax, and most of them may still have a job. Our infrastructure needs improving, and it creates jobs. People are losing healthcare in droves, this has to be addressed. Political affiliations aside people, what are we to do to get out of this mess? Its not even funny how bad things are. I can admit I’ve done it before, but namecalling and all the other things posted on this blog is not gonna turn this country around. Fresh and new ideas will.
By DB, Gwinnettian
February 6, 2009 12:10 PM | Link to this
Andy, about Coleman’s ever-shrinking legal options…so you’re saying you’re clinging to hope?
I’d bet that you are wrong about the chance that Norm will ever step inside the Capitol Building as anything but a tourist ever again but, well, we all know what happens when you lose a bet.
By AJC/DNC Management
February 6, 2009 12:10 PM | Link to this
{{{{“The American people did not choose more of the same,” Oblahma said. “They did not send us to Washington to get stuck in partisan posturing, or to turn back to the same tried and failed approaches that were rejected in the last election. They sent us here with a mandate for change, and the expectation that we would act.”}}}}
What a KKKoward.
Republicans are not going to filibuster this pork monstrosity, pass it, you KKKhicken &^%$ sissies.
Whine and moan, same old failed policies of…………….the demoKKKrat party.
Boo hoo hoo.
By getalife
February 6, 2009 12:11 PM | Link to this
I can sum up the gop argument for the next 8 years with one word.
No.
By Mike
February 6, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this
getalife -
As opposed to the Democrat message for the past eight years? You seemed fine with that then.
By Mike
February 6, 2009 12:17 PM | Link to this
Management -
What does the “kkk” references have to do with anything? I am confused.
By getalife
February 6, 2009 12:25 PM | Link to this
Mike,
No, the spineless dems caved to the worst ever.
Ever watch C-Span?
Geez.
By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
February 6, 2009 12:43 PM | Link to this
mm 10:02 AM
Please name one thing the Dems passed that wrecked Bush’s “sound” economy.
I’ll make it easier, they blocked President Bush’s efforts to strengthen regulation of Fannie & Freddie which was the first string to unravel from the whole ball of yarn. Had President Bush had his way, the problems would have been averted.
By Kathy
February 6, 2009 12:50 PM | Link to this
So Obama says last night “when was the last time a bill this big went out without earmarks?” Isn’t he supposed to be the agent of change? Doesn’t really sound like he’s interested in change.
By beejay
February 6, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this
I don’t know how much Mr. Bookman is being paid, but it’s way too much for embedding a chart and typing 3 words. I know he thinks he’s being cute; he is not. Nor intelligent. Nor interesting. Nor informative. Even the AJC should be ashamed for keeping him on.
By TJ & AL
February 6, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this
ACDC Management, how much of your country do you hate? 70 percent? More?
By demwit
February 6, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this
Deficit spending IS the old way of doin binness.
Kill the bill..,kill the bill..,kill the bill..,kill the bill..,kill bill..,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…,kill bill…
By Bubba
February 6, 2009 1:17 PM | Link to this
And you libs thought George Bush was dumb? check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg
By tcoach
February 6, 2009 1:21 PM | Link to this
Taxpayer, Nice analogy with the knife in the back.
Only thing is that you have to be careful when pulling a knife out of a stab wound, because you may get the knife out but cause more damage to unseen organs.
Obama is using fear the same way Bush did.
They both came into office with an idea/ pet project they wanted to get done.
Well Bush used 911 to scare up support for the Iraq war.
Now after a promise of change and a promise to end pork, Obama is now trying to scare people into signing or agreeing with the “stimulus”spending bill.
I see no difference in the action only in the perception.
Remember only 34% of America (last figure I saw) is still in support of this Bill.
Guess Obama thinks he is just smarter and more informed than any of the 66% of the nation. Remember Bush told us he knew what was best for us too, and he rushed into his project too. Guess we are all too dumb to decide what we want to spend OUR money on.
By AmVet
February 6, 2009 1:25 PM | Link to this
And you libs thought George Bush was dumb?
Actually Bubba, it’;s more like 77% of Americans as well as the rest of the civilized world know he was.
By Dee
February 6, 2009 1:26 PM | Link to this
taxpayer my A$$, IF you actually paid taxes you wouldn’t be so happy with the Messiah’s plan like those of us who’s taxes support your liberal entilement programs…get a job and you won’t have all this free time to blog.
By dogs against management
February 6, 2009 1:52 PM | Link to this
WOOF!
By oldmac
February 6, 2009 2:21 PM | Link to this
Would you be so kind as to overlay the approval number of both houses of Congress so we can see that too? Might be instructive.
BJ
By DebbieDoRight
February 6, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this
Amazing isn’t it how all of sudden the same republicans who were screaming, “Support The President”, are now throwing rocks at a president who has been in office less than 3 weeks! When he was president-elect, and took a much needed vacation for 2 weeks, these same people were screaming about how he was “lazing around and not doing the people’s business”; while that past President, (what WAS his name now?); was on vacation at his ranch 250 out of 365 days a year, for for eight years!!!
Amazing isn’t it how these same republicans can now state, emphatically, to “set aside the things that Bush did, cause he kept us “safe”, when it was BUSH, the republicans and their mixed up ideology, that got us into this mess in the first place!!! People are “safe” in 3rd world countries, they are also poor, their national treasuries decimated, and their people and economy wrecked beyond repair.
To paraphrase President Obama, “I inherited this mess. It was waiting for me when I crossed the White House Doors — I didn’t make it, look at the fool before me to find the culprit for that, don’t look at me! But now that I have this mess, I have to find a way to clean it up”.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1155201977/bctid10289414001
By SL3
February 6, 2009 2:45 PM | Link to this
Obama came across as arrogant and presumptuous in his little speech last night. He got the majority of votes in the election because people were looking for “change”. Not necessarily enormous, mindless and random government spending programs rammed down our throats with threatening, alarmist speeches to scare the country into a worse recession. How about an intelligent speech breaking down the bill and explaining how 3,000,000 jobs will be created. I know those road workers blocking the roads with the signs and the 5 standing around the ditch watching 1 guy work will like parts of it. But the thousands of educated workers who have been laid off from private companies are probably wondering how this gets them another job?
By chuck
February 6, 2009 3:22 PM | Link to this
Taxpayer and others
The following link shows the result of the Bush TAX CUTS from 2003 to 2005. You will see that revenues AFTER THE TAX CUTS went from 1.8 trillion to 2.15 trillion in 2 YEARS.
Which old ideas that don’t work is the messiah referring to?
http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/reports/revenue%20growth.jpg
By Reality
February 6, 2009 3:46 PM | Link to this
Perhaps not doomed, just the realization that he is not the “one”. Though his desire to be responsible for the “care and feeding” of the massess” and journey to the promised land will continue…
His armor is just a bit more tarnished each day…
By Pogo
February 6, 2009 4:27 PM | Link to this
To all those on here that don’t walk lockstep with Obama, Pelosi and the liberals, you must surely know that you cannot have a rational argument with these little “Jay-birds”. They don’t want to think for themselves. They want Obama and his Clintonite staff to do it for them. Their only recourse is vomit the same old bile up over and over again (8 year of Bush did this to us) They are unable to understand that the current situation was created by both parties and goes back as far as 1988 through three presidents. Mayber earlier.
Jaybird, sing loudly about Obama’s numbers now because they are not going to last. His core support constitutes about 40% of the population. He was elected by centrists that crossed over. The centrists will not stick with him if he continues down the path to Socialism. Centrists carry the power in this country. I will critisize and vote against any politician if they give reason (and most do). As a general rule, I trust none of them and question anything any of them do. The worrisome thing about this is the liberals don’t even want to question this trillion dollar bloat. It doesn’t matter if this thing get’s passed next week or next year. The result is going to be same. Jobs are still going to be lost and the stock market is still going to suffer and credit is going to be tight for a very long time. Obama’s seems to want more to have a feather in his cap than a package that will actually achieve what it is supposed to do. His haste makes a hell of a lot of people nervous, including me. Bush and his cronies pushed out the first dung heap in a hurry (against the wishes of this country). Now Obama is doing the same. Where does this leave us people?
By cl
February 6, 2009 4:32 PM | Link to this
First time I’ve read thru this blog - must say the majority of posts are the most immature drivel imaginable!
Grow up, Repulsicans, and admit that Bush and his cronies took a country in great shape and destroyed everything good about it. The economy is flushed, the whole world hates us, we’ve lost thousands of soldiers for a ridiculous, lied-about war, the constitution has been stomped on, our civil liberties were being destroyed, and religion was seeping insidiously into all areas of government, where it absolutely does not belong. There was a very valid reason our forefathers embraced “separation of church and state”, but the bushies completely forgot about that.
Although Obama was not my first choice in the primaries, I hope and pray he can get this country back on an even (instead of evil) keel, bring jobs back to this country, get our economy out of the toilet, bring our soldiers back from Iraq, and make sure all American citizens are treated fairly.
By Jake
February 6, 2009 4:36 PM | Link to this
chuck - Those just happen to be 3 of the 5 non-recession years of the Bush administraton. How were those tax revenues for 2008? Seems like all the states are faing massive shortfalls, imagine the fed revenue took a hit too. Why didn’t all those tax breaks for the rich and deficit spending keep tax revenues high for 2008 and 2009?
By icantbelieveisaidthatish
February 6, 2009 4:51 PM | Link to this
ok ..qucik question are more KKK (Klansmen) registered democrats or registered republicans…GO! dont all answer at once….
icantbelieveisaidthatish.blogspot.com
By fed up
February 6, 2009 5:12 PM | Link to this
cl if you read the entire blog you’d see the “most immature drivel imaginable!” is not just from the conservatives…..but your 2nd paragraph is telling as to why you think that. We all hope or at least most of us hoped that Obama could do what you said in your 3rd paragraph but this government growth package he’s pushing is not the way to do it.
By Bubba
February 6, 2009 5:14 PM | Link to this
Doomed? Well, maybe soon. Daily Kos reports that while Obama’s approval rating is even higher than what Bookman reports, the approval/disapproval margin has fallen 10 points in one week. What a fickle thing popularity ratings are, especially in an electorate as uneducated as ours.
By Jack McMillan
February 6, 2009 5:30 PM | Link to this
Wrong again Jay, IT IS THE COUNTRY THAT IS DOOMED!
By SL3
February 6, 2009 5:34 PM | Link to this
I 2nd the comment by fed up. In Jay’s blog most of the immature drivel is from his fans. I think the economy was doing quite well until the mortgage meltdown and the gas speculation fraud bubble. Think of how many people’s jobs are related to housing and the auto industry? That is what is killing the economy right now. Not Bush’s tax cuts you idiots. The spending by both parties didn’t help either. You want jobs then pass legislation that will incentivize expanding companies and forming new ones. Incentives to buy cars. The democrats want to use this as an excuse to pass a lot of wasteful government spending. Let’s just nationalize everything and we all have government jobs with your salary set by your politicians in DC.
By buck
February 6, 2009 5:43 PM | Link to this
as usual bookman is a damn idiot yes osama hussien obama is doomed & everyone knows it he’s a damn idiot w/ saudia arab money backing him whatever happend to the southern DEMOCRAT that my parents & grandparents believed in the president for the comman man that worked & paid their TAXES
By buck
February 6, 2009 5:51 PM | Link to this
me thinks welfare ,food stamps, section 8 & single moms w/out a babydaddy has ruined this country
By Danjonglee
February 6, 2009 6:13 PM | Link to this
Me thinks Cher needs to be in the Cabinet. The Republicans almost killed her. What a brave soul to have to live in the same country that Republicans live in…..
By jonc3
February 6, 2009 7:39 PM | Link to this
all those southern democrats that your parents and grandparents believed in - well they despised the voting rights act that Pres. Johnson (democrat) gets the credit for (how dare blacks be allow to vote! and have their rights protected!! ) this action by LBJ made those old school democrats like lovely gov. of Alabama George Wallace a little angry so they all left the party and most of them became …well…REPUBLICANS!
By jonc3
February 6, 2009 7:52 PM | Link to this
cont- footnote- old Gov. Wallace ran a couple of elections as a member of the american ind party? go figure?? he never became of Republican- he was really on this whole southern thing ..like reallllly hard.
By jon
February 6, 2009 8:03 PM | Link to this
Since the Federal Government is the largest recipient of taxpayer money, I propose the salary of all Federal government employees be capped at $100,000 per year. That’s a good living for those in service to their country.