Jay Bookman

By getalife

January 10, 2009 5:40 PM | Link to this

It would be just mavericky, you betcha.

Speaking of bets, never bet with Andy.

He welches.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

January 10, 2009 5:48 PM | Link to this

Other than the obvious things like Cabinet and staff appointments, I don’t think there’d really be much difference at this point.

By Dale Gribble

January 10, 2009 5:53 PM | Link to this

Andy’d still be a welcher.

By RW-(the original)

January 10, 2009 5:58 PM | Link to this

For one thing, conservatism really would be dead unlike your imaginary world where you think it’s dead now, Jay B.

Unlike Hillbilly D, I’m not even convinced the cabinet appointments and staff would be much different.

The good news is the first time he declared he was suspending his Presidency in some bizarre fit of maverickyness we could send him packing and swear in President Palin.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

January 10, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this

RW

I don’t necessarily think McCain’s appointments would be all that different idealogically but I do think most of the names would be different.

By GodHatesTrash

January 10, 2009 6:05 PM | Link to this

Well, no matter who was President-elect, Bookman’s RightWingnuts would still be able to look in the mirror and see empty soul-less insane stupidity staring back at them.

Whiners, welchers, wimps.

Some things will never ever change.

By RW-(the original)

January 10, 2009 6:17 PM | Link to this

Hillbilly D,

I was being a tad snarky there and in reality I agree with your 6:03, although I bet he would have offered Hillary just about anything to get her out of the way of challenging him in 2012.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 10, 2009 6:47 PM | Link to this

Eyes would be bulging, foreheads would be creased with rage, mindless sputtering and babbling would be filling the airwaves and print media, hair pulling and eye gouging would be the rule of the day.

And that would be just the Conservatives.

The left would be in a full blown racist seizure, whacko ward all.

Lucky we dodged that bullet, eh?

Now let’s get back to the task at hand, rebuilding Conservatism, sans the spineless moderates.

I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, like the libs ♥ our troops, I do!

By Taxpayer

January 10, 2009 6:52 PM | Link to this

There would be weekly seances with Ronnie in order to find out what he would want John to do next. WWRD? It’s the WKRP for those eternal Republicans that just refuse to let go, you betcha. Nancy would be asked to serve as the medium and her response would be “When turkeys fly!”

By Swami Dave

January 10, 2009 6:55 PM | Link to this

Well, trying to take a fair and reasoned hypothesis (for this exercise, I’ll assume that the results of Congressional races resulted the same & President was the only difference)…….

a) The Israel-Hamas affair would be playing out in much the same fashion since the foundations of it are largely funded and roused by external Arab oil-producing states using Palestinians in their attempts to increase world oil prices.

b) There would probably be more focus on discussing Iraq (and Afganistan) in terms of winning and victory instead of time tables for withdraw from the new administration. Since Obama has decided to keep Bush’s Sec of Defense, some of the 2nd-tier positions would be different, but I expect McCain would have done the same thing.

c) Our financial situation would probably be very similar, but the “plan” being discussed in Congress would be a much greater focus of partisan attack and derision that the current one. Since it always easier to attack someting than propose it, regardless of what McCain proposed, Democrats would have complained that it did not have enough spending and was too focused on “tax cuts for the rich, fatcats”.

d) Unfortunately, all of the media stories would be even more focused on how bad things are and how anything proposed by the “McCain team” was “ignoring the needy”. Likewise, any attempts by the future administration to lower or control expectations for immediate solutions and results (as Obama and his team are now doing) would be highlighted and challenged for what they are. Unlike the current “oh-well-that-is-reasonable-dont-expect-everything-at-once” responses that Obama is getting. There are benefits to having the media acting as collusive publicity partners instead of challenging & questioning what is said.

e) McCain would be focusing more on the regulatory failures and lack of ethical control of industries since it was he who publicly challenged Frank and Dodd in Congress about the actions and practices of the quasi-government organizations that they were allegedly overseeing. You can also probably be certain that Raines and some of the other high-level Democrats at the center of these debacles would be facing investigations not preparing for positions in the administration.

f) I would like to think that McCain’s team would be focusing their efforts and plans on promoting economic growth and freeing the entrepreneurial activities of our capitalist system to lead us through and eventually out of our current downturn. However, his history as a “moderate” would lead me to suspect that much of what we would be getting would be “liberal-lite”, tax-and-spend just “not so much”.

g) Hopefully, on a more positive, Palin’s influence might have directed more of our focus on energy policy toward development of domestic resources in cooperation with research into alternatives instead of (what appears to be the current direction) of assuming that alternative resources and conservation alone will resolve our problems. Functionally, we might have had a more reasoned and potentially successful policy direction driven by economic and market initiatives than one dominated by liberals and environmentalists.

h) On an additional note, Tina Fey would have negotiated and gotten a raise over her next 4 year contract.

i) For all the ballyhoo, we would have had to have woken up on January 20th and gone about our day attempting to guarantee the best futures for our families. For most all of us not going to the Inaugration, nothing much would have been different.

Let the critique begin……

-Swami Dave

By RW-(the original)

January 10, 2009 6:56 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer,

Please refrain from mocking the greatest sitcom episode in sitcom episode history.

As God is my witness I thought turkeys could fly—Arthur Carlson

By @@

January 10, 2009 6:56 PM | Link to this

I don’t really think there’d be much difference, jay. McCain may have proven to be a wee-bit more liberal than Obama “appears” to be.

One thing’s for sure, though. McCain couldn’t be used against us by proclaiming him AN APOSTATE (which is, btw, worse than being an INFIDEL)

In Open Letter to Barack Obama, the Chief of Tora Bora Battlefield In Afghanistan Warns: The Flames of this Fire will Blow Up on Washington — MEMRI

“President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama!

“First of all, you must know that protection from the wretchedness in the world and the fire of Hell is only available in Islam. Islam is the only religion that guarantees success in this world and in the Hereafter.

“You are the first black in the U.S. history who has established control on the White House; you should also cause one more addition to the U.S. history by becoming the first president to accept the Truth and by adopting the true faith of Islam….

Whew! no mention of the word APOSTATE.

Maybe Bin Laden…..or whoever……will send the memo later — when it serves his purpose.

According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama’s father, and irrespective of the mother’s faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.

Should Obama become US commander in chief, there is a strong likelihood that Al Qaeda’s media arm, As-Sahab, will exploit his background to argue that an apostate is leading the global war on terror (read: attacks against fellow Muslims). This perception would be leveraged to galvanize sympathizers into action.

Remember: Al Qaeda’s ultimate goal is to restore the caliphate (the Islamic form of government that would preside over the community of believers) and expand Dar al Islam (“Abode of Islam”). Reaching it requires a long war against all – Muslim and non-Muslim – who don’t share its extremist Wahhabi worldview.

Al Qaeda, though, has struggled recently to recruit volunteers for this jihad. While bin Laden retains significant support as someone willing to stand up for Muslim concerns, most Muslims abhor Al Qaeda’s terrorist methods whose primary targets are innocent noncombatants.

But an apostate as head of the United States could change this equation. It would be a propaganda boost for Al Qaeda’s mission. — Christian Science Monitor

From another article at MEMRI:

In-Depth Report on Shabab Al-Mujahideen in Somalia - Activists Demolish Churches: “We Will Establish Islamic Rule From Alaska & Chile to South Africa, & From Japan to Russia – Beware, We Are Coming”

Interviewer: “So your objective is not just to fight in Somalia but to extend your fighting beyond Somalia and to the world?”

Sheikh Muqtar Robow: “Islam is universal, and so are Muslims. The message from God that was spread by Prophet-Messenger Muhammad is also universal. God told the Messenger: ‘We sent you as nothing else but mercy to the world.’ Anyone spreading the message of Prophet-Messenger Muhammad must bear in mind all human beings - whether in the United States, Asia, or Europe - and bear in mind that they understand the religion well. Once we are successful in ending Somalia’s problems, then we shall spread God’s mercy and His law to the rest of the world.”

So is ^^^ that what dems call “talkin’ smack”?

By Pedestrian Mandate

January 10, 2009 6:57 PM | Link to this

That’s the dumbest question I’ve ever heard, bookman.

What kind of game is this? The titans the ravens.

By Proud Bigot

January 10, 2009 7:21 PM | Link to this

Casualties of the economic downturn can be seen in the classrooms of some metro Atlanta public schools where students are showing up to learn hungry and homeless.

Well done, Mr. Bush. Now, take a bow and enjoy the coziness of Crawford.

Mission accomplished.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 10, 2009 7:23 PM | Link to this

Insane in the membrane-

“Physicist” Alex Wissner-Gross says that performing two Google search uses up as much energy as boiling the kettle for a cup of tea- Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres. However, with more than 200m internet searches estimated globally daily, the lelectricity consumption and greenhouse gas emissions caused by computers and the internet is provoking concern.-TimesUK

So much for civilization.

By the way, how much “lelectricity” does it take to create a fake Israel atrocity propaganda piece?

I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, like the libs ♥ our troops, I do!

By Taxpayer

January 10, 2009 7:25 PM | Link to this

In order to update my 6:52 prediction to reflect reality, please replace the word, John, with the phrase, the GOP leader, as shown below:

There would be weekly seances with Ronnie in order to find out what he would want the GOP leader to do next. WWRD? It’s the WKRP for those eternal Republicans that just refuse to let go, you betcha. Nancy would be asked to serve as the medium and her response would be “When turkeys fly!”

By Tailgater

January 10, 2009 7:35 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t Abe Lincoln a self-educated man? Learned all that he knew in a cabin in Illinois, while married to a woman with mental illness. He set out to become POTUS and succeeded.

Self determination is a good thing.

By Midori

January 10, 2009 7:57 PM | Link to this

Andy would be swinging on a chandelier instead of a rope.

By RW-(the original)

January 10, 2009 8:15 PM | Link to this

I guess there’s a bright spot for the citizens of Tampa that the Ravens are one step closer to the Super Bowl. If Ray Lewis is in the game he’s much less likely to be preying on the citizenry.

By GOP is gone

January 10, 2009 8:19 PM | Link to this

McCain would probably give up any pretense of being a “good Christian” and say f^%k em, like he wanted to all along

By Bud Wiser

January 10, 2009 8:22 PM | Link to this

I always thought that alternative history was what the Democrats wrote with their creatively interpretive versions, well after the fact.

What if the Falcons had won last Sunday?

What if I’d won the lottery last week without even buying a ticket?

Stupid thread.

You are getting lazy, Jay, or are you still on a binge after the drubbing USC gave to Penn State? I’d be drinking too if I were a PSU fan and see the continuation of absurdity with Paterno as head coach.

What is he going to do when he dies? Have himself stuffed and propped up on the sidelines?

By AJC/DNC Management

January 10, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this

i r o diM: I am touched by your concern.

No wait, I mean, I think you are touched in the head.

No, hold on, one more time, I know you are touched in the head.

I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, like the libs ♥ our troops, I do!

By Midori

January 10, 2009 9:02 PM | Link to this

see? nothing’s changed as I still know how to get a rise out of the name calling blog troll eunich we all know as Andy.

Chad sure has you pegged.

Here’s wishing you another loser New Year.

By AmVet

January 10, 2009 9:02 PM | Link to this

You know, after watching the White House bound GOP play the Dems like fiddles for most of my life, this is all very weird.

Nixon and Reagan both annihilated their competition. And even Bush41 held his opponent to 111 electoral votes.

Now? This new and decidedly unimproved GOP is like some self-absorbed, hyper-angry teenage girl trying to figure out why no one likes her.

Things are apparently so bad that this hemorrhaging, demagogic, misnamed conservatism is hanging on by a thread. One so weak that the “mavericks” non-election was itself enough to determine if it lives or dies.

What a laugh.

And even the hapless neocons themselves are now resigned to engaging in gallows humor.

01-20-09 Mission Accomplished

By Midori

January 10, 2009 9:10 PM | Link to this

know something else that’s strange, AmVet?

the GOP is considering making a black man their RNC chairman, while its supporters routinely refer to Obama as “Buckwheat”, etc.

They can put any face they want on their party, but much like the scarlet letter, there is nothing but a giant “R” tattooed on their foreheads. And the R doesn’t stand for “republican” either.

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 9:17 PM | Link to this

@S&T—

I didn’t see your questions in all the invective you’re still continuing to fling to avoid issues.

What should the maximum income tax bracket be for anyone: corporation, individual, anyone?

I recommend as background you read The Taxcut Con by Nobel Prize Winner Paul Krugman and his last 3 books.

The Tax Cut Plan

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 9:22 PM | Link to this

What should the maximum income tax bracket be for anyone: corporation, individual, anyone?

Answer Part 2:

y brackets and cuts and taxation would conform to the “Full Obama Tax Plan” and you can google it. If you can’t find it and want to see it, I can link it.

But I’d increase the tax cuts for lower income families as I detail below.

I agree with Obam’s plan as to brackets which would offer broad based relief to middle class families and cuts taxes for small businbesses and companies that create jobs in America as opposed to wholesale outsourcing of them.

I’d cut taxs for 95% of workers and I’d double Obama’s plan to 2 grand per working couple.

I’d cut taxers significantly for low and midincome seniors, homeowners, uninsured and families with any kids in college.

I’d wipe out capital gains taxes for small business, and cut corporate taxes for companies that make jobs in the US rather than outsource to Mexico and India and other places abrod. That number is growing exponentially.

I’d simplify the ridiculously complicated current tax code so that most middle class Americans could do their own tax returns in minutes. It’s absurd that many of the clauses are not only in legalese but subject to many different interpretations.

I would cut taxes fro families making less than $250 grand. People making more than 250 grand would pay the same or lower taxes than during the 1990’s.

I’d take away tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of families and I’d have the IRS examine every tax return with a fine tooth comb of these individuals or those corporations who are in the highest 5% who are paying no taxes or next to no taxes.

I’d totally dissect the tax shelters off shore represented by the hundreds of ways Madoff feader corporations and hedge funds are hiding the Madoff “lost money.” It’s no accident that some of the managers of these funds have dropped out of sight or resigned. There are some feeders who have Mafia money. There are some feeders who have Russian crime syndicate money. It’s going to be an interesting nexus when they start killing hedge fund or feeder managers who screwed with their money or lost it and the SEC ponders what to do with them. My money is on the Mafia and Russian syndicates to find this money or where it went much faster than the receiver or the SEC. We have much too much tax revenue being diverted to off shore illegal shells and no agency has done a thing about it.

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 9:23 PM | Link to this

@ S& T—

I’d knock off adressing anyone as “son” with the exception of your daughter.

Answer Part 3 and Answer to 2nd question:

Have you checked out the CBO’s “Historical Effective Tax Rates” including their Excel spreads?

Here are the gains for the latest report which stupidly only goes 2003 through 2005 (why is a great quetion):

Bottom quintile 2% Next quintile 2.4% Middle quintile 3.9% Fourth quintile 3.7% Top quintile 16%

Top 10% 20.9% Top 5% 27.7% Top 1% 43..5%

The current income tax trends in income equality show a boom only for the top few percent many of whom pay next to know taxes. It’s a myth that they pay better than 95% of the taxes. Mathematically they don’t.

Over the 26 years that the estimates cover, the only statistically significant gains for the bottom two and middle quintiles took place during the Clinton eight years. This doesn’t have anything to do with activity with Lewinsky either which is a favorite them of Wingnuts many of whose Senators and representatives are on their 3rd wives partly because of ectopic screwing but that’s another issue.

The only good years for lower and middle income individuals in this country were when a Democrat is in the White House. And make sure you note that when the word party is used, it’s only Wingnuts who use the term Democrat Party. The phrase is Democratic party.

The second question was what I would do with the minimum wage.

I’d make it 3.5 times what it is currently. It sure hasn’t kept up with inflation or any of the other points I made after analyzing the Escel spread sheets above.

I recommend also by Nobel Winner Paul Krugman:

The Living Wage

By Midori

January 10, 2009 9:30 PM | Link to this

Man,

I can’t believe this — Arizona is smoking Carolina!!

By Concerned oldtimer

January 10, 2009 9:52 PM | Link to this

OK..probably not much different..we don’t seem to learn from history!!!

By @@

January 10, 2009 9:57 PM | Link to this

Well Whad’yaknow! Obama has a following of…..what is it the leftists call ‘em?……..FUNDIES, RELIGIOUS WHACK-OS, FLAT EARTHERS!

“We’ve heard so much about hope in this campaign, and I think the church has always been a place where hope has been given,” said Donna Claycomb Sokol, pastor of Mount Vernon Place United Methodist Church on Massachusetts Avenue NW. “For people of faith, we put it in a God who turns this world upside down and who is always changing things and always eager for things to be changed. That’s so much the message of this new president.”

Randall Balmer, a Columbia University historian of American religion, said he’d never heard of faith groups organizing like this for an inauguration and noted that he was invited to speak about religion and the presidency the night of the inauguration at a church in Manhattan. “I’ve never had that sort of invite,” he said.

The previous inaugural agenda for many houses of worship had been simply to offer a prayer for the incoming president. But this year, church groups feel inspired to witness the swearing-in themselves.

Some groups view the inauguration as a spiritual outreach opportunity, but not necessarily one in line with Obama’s views.

Project Rachel, a Catholic group that opposes abortions, and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops are planning to take advantage of the millions of people in town and run ads on Metro promoting post-abortion counseling. Catholic leaders criticize Obama for supporting abortion rights.

“We’re not proselytizing. This new president needs help from the people.”

By Bud Wiser

January 10, 2009 10:01 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON – President George W. Bush rejected a plea from Israel last year to help it raid Iran’s main nuclear complex, opting instead to authorize a new U.S. covert action aimed at sabotaging Iran’s suspected nuclear weapons program, The New York Times reported.

Jay must be the only person in America other than the NYT staffers that read their drivel. I guess this is just another feeble left wing attempt to lay the groundwork for an Obama failure to deal with Iran once he takes office.

Could this be considered a presage historical revision, making something, anything, Obama fails at to be Bush’s fault - in advance of it happening?

By getalife

January 10, 2009 10:02 PM | Link to this

Jake stunk up the place in the first half.

BTW, never bet with Andy.

He will not pay up.

Welcher.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 10, 2009 10:09 PM | Link to this

Boo hoo hoo, listen to the whiners.

Reality sucks don’t it?

I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, I ♥ thee Oblahmi, like the libs ♥ our troops, I do!

By AmVet

January 10, 2009 10:15 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Midori, to hear the neocons there is nary a racist or bigot in their entire midst.

Race is still a very ugly topic in this country. And for the Republicans it is generally a nightmare.

Yes they have their stalwarts of color but by and large their “compassionate conservatism” and “big tent” are just two of their innumerable nonsensical slogans.

And think how much worse the bloodbath would have been if the nominee had NOT been McCain! I imagine they would not have gotten 100 electoral votes. But ironically the die hards and apologists think the moderates in their ranks are THE problem.

Unless there is a dramatic change in their entire platform, they are really in dire straits. The demographics are simply going to kill their backwards looking ideology.

Their only tiniest hope is for Obama to screw up big time.

This is of course, what the worst of them want. Even if it means they and their children suffer.

Strange lot they are…

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 10:16 PM | Link to this

Not one thug can make a point hitting the issues. It’s always about anther commenter.

I like Palin and (Joe the) Plumber in 2012. Go for it.

By @@

January 10, 2009 10:29 PM | Link to this

A virus warning just came thru e-mail.

Snopes

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 10, 2009 10:34 PM | Link to this

How would things be different right now if it were “President-elect John McCain?”

We’d be bombing Gaza.

The Dow would be at 5600.

We’d not even know about the second recent “clean coal” ash spill.

The RNC would be selecting Palin’s gown.

Blair house would be available.

Cats and dogs would start dating.

It would truly be the end of civilization.

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 10:37 PM | Link to this

The people here flinging s** aren’t even representative of neocons.

George Will Kathleen Parker David Frum David Brooks

and the sloppy writer Charlie Krauthammer

all detested Palin.

But they could express their thoughts in writing instead of 2 bit penny ante name calling or their fantasies as to how Obama the winning Presidential candidate will fail.

Fortunately the vast majority of Conservatives are equally dumb.

That’s why I recommend Palin and Plumber in 2012, and why the thugs are going to lose in the vast majority of major Congressional elections including for President and then show up here or on some comment section whining about the government that is making them whine because they are too blind to see whatever it is they’re hawking but can’t express, this country isn’t buying.

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 10:44 PM | Link to this

@@—

Help me with your IT prowess. What good does it do to tell someone “a virus warning came through email.” Having helped hundreds of people with viruses and trojans, I’d like to know how that particular statement is of any use.

Enlighten me.

By getalife

January 10, 2009 10:46 PM | Link to this

My first impression of Palin was correct.

Another moron just like w.

Our friends on the right have nothing left but hate after their ideology has failed. Out of ideas, out of talent, out of patriotism.

Andy welches on a bet and can’t bring himselef to post one pro Obama post.

Losers.

By @@

January 10, 2009 10:47 PM | Link to this

This is truly pathetic.

Democrats described two forces as contributing to the less-than-full embrace of Obama out of the gates: a weariness of being taken for granted for eight years by the outgoing Bush administration; and more recently, a sense that the $700 billion bailout for struggling financial institutions known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program was rushed through last fall in two weeks, a de facto abdication of Congress’s responsibility.

Bush & Bush.

This is going to be a dem addiction that will require extensive rehab.

An intervention perhaps.

Too funny!

By @@

January 10, 2009 10:52 PM | Link to this

Chad:

Help me with your IT prowess.

I have absolutely none of that!

A friend sent me an e-mail warning of a virus. I was advised to check out its validity at Snopes. Snopes listed some of the e-mails that may appear containing the virus.

Excuse me for trying to help.

You’re a moody sort.

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 10:55 PM | Link to this

My first and continuing impression of Palin is that she is very representative of the bell shaped curve of Republican voters.

She’s a bigot; she’s poorly read; she’s poorly educated. That goes for them whether they are in a lower socio-economic group or affluent.

By @@

January 10, 2009 10:59 PM | Link to this

You’re a moody sort.

Not to mention a boring prick.

By @@

January 10, 2009 11:03 PM | Link to this

AND chad

I linked you to Snopes in my initial warning. It’s the word, Snopes in blue text. When you hold the cursor over the text, you’ll notice that at the bottom of the screen it says:

“Computer Virus-Obama speech”

Twit!

By Midori

January 10, 2009 11:19 PM | Link to this

Chad and Getalife,

add to that - they have very limited vocabularies.

that’s what their name calling is all about.

they can’t respond intelligently; thus the namecalling.

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 11:34 PM | Link to this

@@—

I wasn’t “dumping on @@” That’s not my mission.

For what it’s worth, I’ll tell you what I think works to keep you safe from viruses, trojans, blended threats and spyware. Blended threats are code that’s written that has the properties of trojans and viruses.

It isn’t complicated, and it doesn’t require much in the way of knowledge about cyber security—but I believe it helps you deal with and keep safe from most threats on your computer. It sounds almost to simple, but it works for me.

I don’t know if you’re on a Windows box or Mac, (or even Linux) but it doesn’t matter except that using Apple and Linux because they’re unix based, viruses, etc. exist but they are much less frequent.

I understand a lot of Mac users scoff at MSFT and Windows but this isn’t about that.

1) Have a good antivirus program that *you like. I like MSFT Win One Care which is about to change names soon and possibly will be better. It catches most things in the wild, and it has an easy backup wizard and built in spyware getter.

It costs $40 and can be used on 3 machines.

MSFT says that its next version of antivirus is going to ship free with its next OS which went into public Beta yesterday and is called Windows 7.

Suppose you were to get a virus or trojan/or blended threat and it was picked up when you did a viral scan. Let’s even suppose your antivirus says it can’t clean it.

Your chances of getting something worse than spyware that can be annoying but is usually dealt with with anti-spyware programs is less than 10% if you’re running a decent antivirus program.

(I’m not going to dwell on boot sector viruses which require special attention and are awfully rare so that most people will never see them).

If your antivirus program can’t clean whatever, it will name it.

Then what you do is you google or search engine with the words “how to clean so and so.”

There will always be a free tool that can remove it or decent instructions as to how to manually remove it. Make sure you do.

2) Let’s even say you have kids that download a lot of free stuff from torrents and much of it can have trojans particularly, viruses and spyware.

If you teach them not to click on and run an executable where they don’t know for sure what it is, this will lessen the chances of getting a trojan or virus that can cause problems. Typical ones are where they download a movie from some torrent and then it wants them to click something to help decode the movie or view it. If that something isn’t an established codec that your movie player actually says it needs, teach them not to touch it.

Manually uninstalling a Symantec product when it’s necessary even with a tool to help nuke it out usually takes much longer than manually getting rid of most viruses or trojans.

I’d update with every hotfix MSFT makes available, usually on the first Tue of every month although if you subscribe they’ll give you advance notice. You can set MSFT Update to do this for you automatically on XP or Vista or Win 7. You can have it notify you and allow you to approve all installs.

3 or more years ago, the hotfixes or updates were problematic at times. That’s not the case now.

There’s nothing particularly clever or sophisticated about what I just said, but it works for me. I help a lot on newsgroups for people with software and hdw problems, and it’s worked when I’ve helped them over the years.

By Tom

January 10, 2009 11:38 PM | Link to this

Things would be utterly disgusting and fatal. And M

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 11:49 PM | Link to this

@@—

Most people know what Snopes is. It’s the urban legend explainer and it sometimes lists chain mails etc. to stay away from. I guess Snopes helps/entertains some people. I never saw the need for it or the need to spend a nano-second on it but whatever works for you or makes you happy.

Almost any chain email is going to show up in your “Bulk Mail box” on web based email, or something similar using any other email client, or be screened by Outlook as :”junk mail” unless it’s sent by a friend whose email you’re not filtering.

By Glenn

January 10, 2009 11:49 PM | Link to this

Ah, Midori. Know that most men are utterly weak and needy. You’ll find a great example of them here. They’re terrified of women, therefore hate women. Terrified of gays, therefore hate gays. Terrified that their “soft side” might turn them into “homos.” Retaining hatred within themselves for a lifetime lessens those chances. They can have hate and with it McShame & Moose Palin. And Murcuh would continue to slide down into its fatal abyss as now. The Little People would love to have McShame coming…in.

By Chad Harris

January 10, 2009 11:51 PM | Link to this

@ @@—

Twit, & boring prick are classy and display a great amount of insight as to issues.

It’s typical of a Palin voter who dosn’t understand why she’s going nowhere outside of Alaska as a candidate.

Run her with Plumber in 2012.

By Bud Wiser

January 11, 2009 5:42 AM | Link to this

So now Chad has “helped hundreds of people” with viruses and trojans?

Also he is a medical lawyer and a doctor?

And the mini-novels he writes on the blogs, as well as his own blog he says he has, will the thrills ever stop? Has Chris Matthews told you a chill runs up his leg when he reads your words?

When and where may we all form a line just for the chance to touch your robe?

Egotistical, maniacal, blathering idiot; somehow that phrase just sticks in my mind…….

By Bud Wiser

January 11, 2009 5:45 AM | Link to this

Oh, and paranoid schizophrenic, compulsive liar, crude and vulgar little boy … these things just sort of keep on ‘popping up’.

By Bud Wiser

January 11, 2009 6:02 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON – Congress is considering whether to set aside more than 2 million acres in nine states as wilderness in an early showdown that threatens to derail pledges by Senate leaders to work cooperatively as a new administration takes office.

The largest expansion of wilderness protection in 25 years has bipartisan support and would include California’s Sierra Nevada mountain range, Oregon’s Mount Hood, Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado and parts of the Jefferson National Forest in Virginia.

The bill was scuttled last year after objections from Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who said spending in the bill was excessive — nearly $4 billion over five years. Now Senate Majority Leader* Harry Reid is seeking a rare Sunday vote in an apparent effort to punish Coburn and antagonize his GOP colleagues.** *

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Same stinking do-nothing Congress, same stinking no-nothing Congressmen.

The stench is overpowering.

By Carolelynne

January 11, 2009 6:08 AM | Link to this

The guy in Turkey that sells sandals would have a lot more orders from the US than he does now.

He might have looked into making a longer range loafer.

By Bud Wiser

January 11, 2009 6:23 AM | Link to this

From AP: WASHINGTON – Wars. Recession. Bailouts. Debt. Gloom. The unvarnished review of George W. Bush’s presidency reveals a portrait of America he never would have imagined.

Grading Bush’s performance has its limitations. History offers a warning about judging a president and his tenure in the moment: The wisdom and decisions of a leader can look different years later, shaped by events impossible to know now. Leaders are entrusted to act in the nation’s long-term interests.

Are people better off than they were when the president took office? Based on that standard, the Bush report card is mixed at best. It is abysmal at worst.

Many of his original campaign promises are dust. Sept. 11, 2001, changed everything. In the heady days, Bush was the face of a party that ran the White House and Congress. Now Republicans hold neither. So much for a durable majority.

Bush said he would change the tone of Washington. He never did. Of course, neither did the Democrats running Congress. The president’s defenders may well be right that his decisions will be viewed honorably over time.

For now, he is out of time. And realistic about his exit.

“It turns out,” he said, “this isn’t one of the presidencies where you ride off into the sunset.”

No sh!t, Sherlock. These guys are really on top of things, really into historical perspective, aren’t they?

My point is that the media (as well as their subservient little trolls that patrol the blogs) cannot reason or have the capacity to think beyond, or be able to point past, what is the intuitively obvious.

I don’t think that any Republican would, based upon current data, believe that Bush’s was anything but a failed presidency. But, history is to be written by historians, and history may well point out that this man was simply overwhelmed by a confluence of events that probably no one man could have overcome alone. And, he was alone, being sniped and subterfuged by political partisans of both parties.

We ued to pull together as Americans to overcome crisis.

Now, the attitude is Shoot the wounded and do what is best for me.

The degeneration of our nation continues in 9 days.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 11, 2009 6:43 AM | Link to this

“We u(s)ed to pull together as Americans to overcome crisis.”

Like this?

As Alexander and Collins fled, Herrington ran in the opposite direction, his hand pressed to the bleeding wound on his throat. Behind him, he says, the gunmen yelled, “Get him! Get that n!gger!”

The attack occurred in Algiers Point. The Point, as locals call it, is a neighborhood within a neighborhood, a small cluster of ornate, immaculately maintained 150-year-old houses within the larger Algiers district. A nationally recognized historic area, Algiers Point is largely white, while the rest of Algiers is predominantly black. It’s a “white enclave” whose residents have “a kind of siege mentality,” says Tulane University historian Lance Hill, noting that some white New Orleanians “think of themselves as an oppressed minority.”

A wide street lined with towering trees, Opelousas Avenue marks the dividing line between Algiers Point and greater Algiers, and the difference in wealth between the two areas is immediately noticeable. “On one side of Opelousas it’s ‘hood, on the other side it’s suburbs,” says one local. “The two sides are totally opposite, like muddy and clean.”

Algiers Point has always been somewhat isolated: it’s perched on the west bank of the Mississippi River, linked to the core of the city only by a ferry line and twin gray steel bridges. When the hurricane descended on Louisiana, Algiers Point got off relatively easy. While wide swaths of New Orleans were deluged, the levees ringing Algiers Point withstood the Mississippi’s surging currents, preventing flooding; most homes and businesses in the area survived intact. As word spread that the area was dry, desperate people began heading toward the west bank, some walking over bridges, others traveling by boat. The National Guard soon designated the Algiers Point ferry landing an official evacuation site. Rescuers from the Coast Guard and other agencies brought flood victims to the ferry terminal, where soldiers loaded them onto buses headed for Texas.

Facing an influx of refugees, the residents of Algiers Point could have pulled together food, water and medical supplies for the flood victims. Instead, a group of white residents, convinced that crime would arrive with the human exodus, sought to seal off the area, blocking the roads in and out of the neighborhood by dragging lumber and downed trees into the streets. They stockpiled handguns, assault rifles, shotguns and at least one Uzi and began patrolling the streets in pickup trucks and SUVs. The newly formed militia, a loose band of about fifteen to thirty residents, most of them men, all of them white, was looking for thieves, outlaws or, as one member put it, anyone who simply “didn’t belong.”

By RW-(the original)

January 11, 2009 6:45 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the Snopes info @@. I’m not sure why it has poor Chadly so bent out of shape, but I think it has something to do with his courtship of Midori. If the poor kid only knew that he could do the trick by merely grunting and saying “Bush sux” he could save himself a lot of time impressing the fair parrot.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 11, 2009 6:51 AM | Link to this

“Run her with Plumber in 2012. “

Life would be a dream, sha-boom sha-boom…

Well, it’d be a landslide of historically unprecedented proportions anyway. I do suspect, seriously, that something resembling grown-up leadership will try to re-emerge and impose some kind of control, and they’ll make their best effort with something like a Romney/Jindal ticket.

And speaking of Jindal, I suppose he’s hard at work prosecuting those folks who were implicated as murderers in that story that ran in the Nation last week, and doing his best to root out the corrupt police officials who covered up their handiwork, right?

By RW-(the original)

January 11, 2009 7:03 AM | Link to this

DB,

You mean after all those years Blanco did nothing about your little Algiers Point “militia”????

Yes, Bobby should drop his duties as governor and get right on to usurping the duties of the state and local law enforcement to piece together the urban legends and begin summarily executing them. He ought to do something about all the sharks that were swimming down Canal Street too and then go after all those murderers in the convention center that somehow made the bodies of their victims disappear.

By GodHatesTrash

January 11, 2009 7:10 AM | Link to this

Bush - a pitiful little man, a pitiful presidency.

Only wimps, whiners, weasels, welchers, wingnuts, Wooten and whackjobs try to defend him.

January 20, 2001 - a date that will live in infamy.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 11, 2009 7:10 AM | Link to this

I suppose I should try to answer the hypothetical Jay had posted.

Assuming a legitimate, decisive win by McCain (and not some scenario wherein it came down to one state and the SCOTUS intervened on the side of the plaintiff), he’d probably be a lot slower to announce key cabinet appointments, waiting until the last possible minute. Presuming the Senate was still in Dem. hands, there’d be as much sound and fury being generated by opposition to some of the names as there would be positive news from the P-E’s office.

I doubt McCain would have made any terribly significant proposals in advance of his inauguration, preferring instead to hash out whatever deal he could broker after taking office. However, he’d probably outline a few things that would tweak the tax code here and there.

Note that I’ve not said anything about VP-elect Palin. That’s because I think they likely would’ve allowed her to see to her family and used that as a perfectly reasonable pretext to keep her interregnum public appearances to a minimum. (But this assumes McCain wins with broad support from moderates and independents, and that Palin’s rhetoric during the campaign has been skillfully massaged, not permitted to turn into a parody of itself.)

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 11, 2009 7:14 AM | Link to this

“You mean after all those years Blanco did nothing about your little Algiers Point “militia”????”

Of course. There’s no statute of limitations on murder. Besides, don’t imagine I have any special love for Nagin or Blanco, neither of whom come out looking good in the investigative piece I’ve linked and quoted.

By lovelyliz

January 11, 2009 7:16 AM | Link to this

How would things be different right now if it were “President-elect John McCain?”

The GOP would figure this was all former President Bill Clinton’s fault.

By RW-(the original)

January 11, 2009 7:22 AM | Link to this

DB,

Is there any particular reason you decided to wake up on the 11th of January, 2009 and shake Katrina in our faces?

My daughter had moved to Biloxi three weeks before Katrina hit and there were many, many heroic stories that came out of the aftermath of that tragic natural disaster as well. Perhaps I’ll set Outlook to alert me on April 3rd of 2010 to relay some of them.

I didn’t need to wait a few years for some fever swamp rag to give me the stories either. I went down there and lived them and from what I saw your story is the outlier.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 11, 2009 7:37 AM | Link to this

“Is there any particular reason you decided to wake up on the 11th of January, 2009 and shake Katrina in our faces?”

If you read my post, you’d realize I was responding to what Bud had posted. I thought someone might need a little reality check.

I suppose I could provide a little history of The Nation as an investigative journal—I’m reading a biography of one of its founders, Frederick Law Olmstead—that you deride as a “fever swamp rag,” but I doubt you’d care.

As for what your daughter experienced, I’d be glad to hear more about it whenever you’d like. Obviously there were heroic efforts made by many good people of all shapes, sizes and colors.

But the story I’d linked isn’t some “urban legend” (like, say, that crazy people were shooting at rescue helicopters), it’s the result of 18 months of solid investigative work.

By RW-(the original)

January 11, 2009 7:40 AM | Link to this

DB,

As with AP the founding of a publication or agency has very little to do with what it becomes many years later.

I’m glad you found an article to flame your little race war, but most of us moved beyond skin color years ago.

By Andy the Welcher

January 11, 2009 7:40 AM | Link to this

Alternative History is what follows the alternate reality that the 4 posting wingnuts here live in.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 11, 2009 7:47 AM | Link to this

RW, posting about actual events that happened to transpire between American citizens is not flaming a “little race war.” I have no idea why you and others in the conservative print/online community are so incredibly touchy (the kind of reactions I read in LTEs to anything Cynthia Tucker might write about race relations being my point of reference, here) about citing specific problems.

I want the problems solved. I think they can be, peacefully, through the existing channels.

Anyway, gotta run. Enjoy your sunday.

By GayGrayGeek

January 11, 2009 7:55 AM | Link to this

DB @ 7:47 - It’s because the minions of The Party Of Personal Responsibility would rather do their usual Attack The Messenger, Ignore The Message schtick rather than, well, Take Personal Responsibility for their part of racial problems.

After all, it’s only “racist” if one of Those People do it. It’s never “racist” if one of Us do it. You know, Us who inhabit that American Part Of America.

By RW-(the original)

January 11, 2009 7:58 AM | Link to this

DB,

I just believe you would be better served to shine the light on good when you want to eradicate evil. That obviously isn’t your method and the sources you generally share with us try to find whatever possible angle they can find to illuminate the bad things in life and attempt to portray them as the norm.

I choose not to live that kind of miserable existence.

Enjoy your Sunday as well. Hopefully if you see a carjacking you won’t come back and tell us how the entire world has turned to crime. Instead you should seek out a story like the one in Columbus Ohio where a guy got carjacked and had his cell phone stolen. He sent a text to his phone posing as a friend and said he had drugs and babes at a particular address. Yes the carjackers showed up for the party and were met by the Columbus PD.

Now where’s that coffee and why the hell am I up so early?

By AJC/DNC Management

January 11, 2009 8:02 AM | Link to this

Careful everybody, GayGrayGeek will call the AJC and whine if you cross the imaginary boundaries in his head.

Who knows what those will be this morning.

By the way, if I’m a “welcher,” then Oblahmasan is a clueless bozo.

By GodHatesTrash

January 11, 2009 8:37 AM | Link to this

From a survey of 109 historians by George Mason University’s History News Network, (61% rated the presidency of W the worst in our nation’s history):

The comments that many of the respondents included with their evaluations provide a clear sense of the reasons behind the overwhelming consensus that George W. Bush’s presidency is among the worst in American history.

“No individual president can compare to the second Bush,” wrote one. “Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world’s goodwill. In short, no other president’s faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large.”

“With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct,” said another historian. “When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point—rightly—to the Bush presidency. Thanks to his policies, it is now easy to see America losing out to its competitors in any number of area: China is rapidly becoming the manufacturing powerhouse of the next century, India the high tech and services leader, and Europe the region with the best quality of life.”

One historian indicated that his reason for rating Bush as worst is that the current president combines traits of some of his failed predecessors: “the paranoia of Nixon, the ethics of Harding and the good sense of Herbert Hoover… . . God willing, this will go down as the nadir of American politics.” Another classified Bush as “an ideologue who got the nation into a totally unnecessary war, and has broken the Constitution more often than even Nixon. He is not a conservative, nor a Christian, just an immoral man … .” Still another remarked that Bush’s “denial of any personal responsibility can only be described as silly.”

“It would be difficult to identify a President who, facing major international and domestic crises, has failed in both as clearly as President Bush,” concluded one respondent. “His domestic policies,” another noted, “have had the cumulative effect of shoring up a semi-permanent aristocracy of capital that dwarfs the aristocracy of land against which the founding fathers rebelled; of encouraging a mindless retreat from science and rationalism; and of crippling the nation’s economic base.”

“George Bush has combined mediocrity with malevolent policies and has thus seriously damaged the welfare and standing of the United States,” wrote one of the historians, echoing the assessments of many of his professional colleagues. “Bush does only two things well,” said one of the most distinguished historians. “He knows how to make the very rich very much richer, and he has an amazing talent for f**king up everything else he even approaches. His administration has been the most reckless, dangerous, irresponsible, mendacious, arrogant, self-righteous, incompetent, and deeply corrupt one in all of American history.”

Four years ago I rated George W. Bush’s presidency as the second worst, a bit above that of James Buchanan. Now, however, like so many other professional historians, I see the administration of the second Bush as clearly the worst in our history. My reasons are similar to those cited by other historians: In the wake of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the United States enjoyed enormous support around the world. President Bush squandered that goodwill by taking the country into an unnecessary war of choice and misleading the American people to gain support for that war. And he failed utterly to have a plan to deal with Iraq after the invasion. He further undermined the international reputation of the United States by justifying torture.

Only wimps, welchers, weasels, whiners, wingnuts, whackjobs, wusses, weenies, the witless, warmongers, whiners and Wooten defend this pitiful little man.

(Luckovich has captured his essence perfectly. A soul-less little man-chimp.)

By Cherokee

January 11, 2009 8:39 AM | Link to this

lovelyliz I think you win - anything bad that has happened in the US in the last 16 years is the fault of Bill Clinton or his evil wife.

Weird, and deranged, but that’s their story…

By RW-(the original)

January 11, 2009 8:48 AM | Link to this

Anyone that considers themselves to be a serious historian would never draw an ultimate conclusion from current events.

I’ve always thought that W would be judged pretty kindly in the foreign affairs arena and domestically not so well. In an odd twist though he may become one of the most beloved presidents by future leftists as the father of American socialism.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 11, 2009 8:49 AM | Link to this

If McBush was president, the Urinal wouldn’t be printing pro Oblahmi propaganda nonsense like this-

Headline- Obama plam aims to add 3.7 million jobs, yay, Oblahmi, smooch, smoooch.-Urinal/DNC

Buried in the article- The report noted, however, that at least five million jobs, and probably many more, will have been lost during the downturn. So even if the most optimistic projections bear out, unemployment in December 2010 will still be higher than it was in December 2007.

Why would thee Oblahmi need my ♥ when he’s already got the undying devotion of the AJC?

By Chad Harris

January 11, 2009 8:54 AM | Link to this

Wiser you moron—

When you help people on software newsgroups you help thousands of people over several years. And hundreds of them have problems with viruses, trojans and spyware.

As to my professional qualifications, I’ve never had to answer to a moron lilke you. That was one major reason I did the training.

You couldn’t get into the schools to qualify period. You’re far too stupid.

By Bud Wiser

January 11, 2009 8:59 AM | Link to this

Like I said before, and you have proven once again, you are nothing more than a pitiful little vulgar boy.

Thank you for the self validation, fool.

By Chad Harris

January 11, 2009 9:00 AM | Link to this

W is now and will be viewed as the most pathetic president and history bar none as to foreing and domestic affairs.

He had no experience and it showed. No President has damaged this country more, and no President has been as much of a dupe for a VP who damaged this country more.

Teo chickenhawks who are responsible for killing and maiming an unprecedented number of Americans and hemorrhaging unprecedented billions right up to the end.

Paulson hasn’t kept track of a penny of how banks and pseudo-banks are spending the money dump he orchestrated.

By GodHatesTrash

January 11, 2009 9:02 AM | Link to this

Only an illiterate aborigine - or RightWingnut, or both - could think that this cataclysm of a presidency is anything other than the worst in our history.

By Ray

January 11, 2009 9:05 AM | Link to this

For all of you libs that can’t count, 47% of the electorate didn’t vote for your wonder boy. That’s hardly a mandate. That means, for all of you that need some education, that the GOP is far from dead or “hanging by a thread”, like the Trashman would have us believe. If it hadn’t been for the 92% of the black community that blindly voted for this clown, the results would have been much different. You betcha!

By AJC/DNC Management

January 11, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this

ISSUE IN-DEPTH: TRANSPORTATION: Ga. laws, politics create bottleneck-Bookman

You know, surprisingly, I agree with Jay that transportation in the ATL sucks and sucks heavy, but I must digress from blaming Perdue for this quandary, after all, democrats built the current Bottleneck O Rama, did they not?

Jay, are you advocating that we need Republicans to clean up the messes created by democrats?

Someone please check hell to see if it might be frozen over, well, it could be “global warming” doing that.

To its credit, the DOT may already be rethinking its past opposition to mass transit spending

Yeah boy, that’s what we need, a system that nobody rides and gets paid for by people who don’t use it.

What’s their deficit now, even after gaining ridership because of fuel price increases?

Outer Perimeter, anyone?

Double decker 285?

Think big, infrastructure for the future.

By GodHatesTrash

January 11, 2009 9:09 AM | Link to this

On a brighter note, the elimination of the Atlanta Falcons, Charlotte Panthers, and the Nashville Titans from the playoffs means that the Super Bowl crowd won’t be a bunch of lardass loudmouthed SEC/ACC fan retreads.

By @@

January 11, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this

Chad:

About the virus protection….

The program that I’ve purchased has served me just fine.

Twit, & boring prick are classy and display a great amount of insight as to issues.

You consider yourself “an issue”, do ‘ya?

Someone WITH issues maybe, but not AN issue.

Nobody was responding to you yesterday evening, up ^^^ there somewhere, but still you kept accusing everyone of hurling insults, invectives, naner naner boo boos — whatever you wanna call ‘em.

I just thought I’d give you what you were begging for….. just thought I’d fulfill your dreams is all.

From me to you

Weirdo!

By GodHatesTrash

January 11, 2009 9:12 AM | Link to this

All Hensley-McCain’s 47% proves is that there is a whole lot of ignorant scared wimps, whiners, wussies, welchers, and wingnuts in the good ol’ US of A.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 11, 2009 9:12 AM | Link to this

Of course it takes a Republican to come up with the good ideas-

As one example, we could remove approximately 60 percent of all tractor-trailer traffic from Atlanta’s congested roads just by routing the trucks bound for other cities around Atlanta. This can be accomplished by expanding and improving existing road and rail corridors outside metro Atlanta. By improving infrastructure throughout the rest of the state, we will provide congestion relief in the city of Atlanta and all Georgians will benefit.> Glenn Richardson (R-Hiram) is speaker of the Georgia House of Representatives.

By Taxpayer

January 11, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this

The list of scumbags that welch off of the US and do not pay their taxes would continue to grow even larger under a McCain/Gramm administration. An IRS report obtained by the Wall Street Journal in March indicated that the nation’s top 400 income-tax payers (with at least $100.3 billion in adjusted gross income) controlled 1.15 percent of the nation’s total income in 2005 – twice the share they controlled in 1995. Over that same period, the average effective income tax rate paid by this same group fell from 30 percent to 18 percent. The Bush tax cuts aided this shift. Also, there is a suspicion that the use of tax havens has increased. Money transfers can be done electronically and easily with the help of a bank. It is no longer necessary to cart bushels of money in a briefcase to some remote island. And those stupid little Republican faithful would continue to keep their heads stuck up the rears of their leaders. Then again, some things will never change so let them change or choke on it.

By Taxpayer

January 11, 2009 9:39 AM | Link to this

I know. I know. Let’s build a loop around Atlanta to divert trucks onto. We could call it something clever like the outer perimeter and give it a number for use on maps and stuff. I-285 sounds good.

We used to sit around at the drive-ins on Saturday nights trying to figure out something to do and then they started building I-285. It was the best thing to happen to Atlanta in years. We’d get out and race around it to see who would get back to the starting point first. I-285 made a nice race track until other people in the slow cars started using it. Then, the trucks came and it was down hill from there. The good old days are gone and another farther out perimeter won’t fix it. We need real change and rapid rail would be a real start to real change.

By the way, just where are those MARTA riders expected to relieve themselves. Do those trains have windows?

By Andy the Welcher

January 11, 2009 9:50 AM | Link to this

I’m a welcher because they had a couple of “those” people ref’ing the game and that obviously means I was cheated by liburals.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 11, 2009 9:57 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer: Trucks from Chicago or Tennessee have to drive through Atlanta on 285 to get to South Carolina or New York.

Reducing the volume of traffic would not help travel times on 285?

By ByteMe

January 11, 2009 10:02 AM | Link to this

With Palin getting ready to the next VP, I would say the answer to the question How would things be different right now if it were “President-elect John McCain?” is:

To paraphrase Tina Fey on SNL: “Stupid” would be the new “black”.

By Taxpayer

January 11, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this

A good start would be a rail line, capable of transporting both passengers and certain limited types and quantities of freight much like many trucks currently carry, extending from Chattanooga to Atlanta and on to any number of ports such as Savannah. They could even run parallel to existing Interstate highways in many cases and thus provide an alternate mode of travel along well established routes. Of course, this is just for starters and it would certainly keep many people gainfully employed for years if well funded. Just a thought.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 11, 2009 10:34 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer: What percentage of the truck traffic currently routed through Atlanta on 285 is from Chattanooga to Atlanta only?

1% maybe?

By Chad Harris

January 11, 2009 10:50 AM | Link to this

RW—

You’re delusional as usual projecting some fantasy you have about “courtship” here. Again, there is not one right Wingnut who can discuss an issue. For all of you it’s your fantasy world about other commenters pretending you know what they do for a living, what they think, and what they want.

It’s only the Democrats here who seem to have much of an education or can discuss issues. You don’t see Demcrats here fantasizing about “courtship” or the occupation of a commenter particularly when you haven’t a clue.

This is typical of the garbage mouth wingnuts. What it translates to is “I’m too dumb and too lazy to get educated on the issues so I’ll spend my time flining invective like a 3rd grader throwing a tantrum:

From the moron Wiser (no issues discussed at any time because he’s barely literate):

*Egotistical, maniacal, blathering idiot; somehow that phrase just sticks in my mind…….

Oh, and paranoid schizophrenic, compulsive liar, crude and vulgar little boy … these things just sort of keep on ‘popping up’.*

By catlady

January 11, 2009 11:14 AM | Link to this

If McCain were the Pres elect, we would see the stock in “vitamin v” going up because Medicare would be required to provide it. Oh, it is already? Well, h3ll!

We’d have to put up with his angry red face on tv and newspapers constantly. Until he gets so mad he keels over. He should be very thankful he was not elected. We probably saved his life for a few extra months.

We’d have to put up with more pathetic idiocy from the nearly brain-dead Palin and her family. (but she looks good!) Her grandson’s birthday would probably be a national holiday, which would be celebrated by stoning all pregnant unmarried teenaged girls of color while chanting, “It’s different when you are US.”

We’d see more tshirts made by undocumented workers newly legalized. The shirts would proclaim, “You betcha!”

By Andy the Welcher

January 11, 2009 11:24 AM | Link to this

“I’ll spend my time flinging invective like a 3rd grader throwing a tantrum”

The better analogy would be like monkeys flinging thier own poo…

Those goshdarn Mavricky Mavericks… dontchaknow… wink wink…

ew

By GodHatesTrash

January 11, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this

McCain-Palin’s 47% can be explained with this analogy: 100% of flies eat feces.

Go figure!

By Bud Wiser

January 11, 2009 10:43 PM | Link to this

Chad, many thanks for showing us all on a continuing basis the absolute shallowness of your mind, the total lack of intellect, and just plain how stupid you really are.

A third grader in Georgia’s public school system anywhere has superior cut and paste abilities to you.

Grow up little boy, grow up.

By lovelyliz

January 12, 2009 10:01 AM | Link to this

And Cherokee they are sticking to it