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DEL.ICIO.USDick Cheney, the glower behind the throne
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
In an interview with CBS Radio, Vice President Dick Cheney “insisted that his influence within the Bush administration was overstated throughout the past eight years.”
“The notion that somehow I was pulling strings or making presidential-level decisions. I was not,” he said.
“There was never any question about who was in charge. It was George Bush. And that’s the way we operated. This whole notion that somehow I exceeded my authority here, was usurping his authority, is simply not true. It’s an urban legend, never happened.”
That’s the party line these days … at least some times, among some parties. But among conservatives, the talking points change a bit. For example, conservative blogger Erick Erickson of redstate.com and Georgia’s own peachpundit.com was invited to lunch with Cheney recently. Erickson got a bit “verklempt” recounting the experience at peachpundit:
“This is about him — about Dick Cheney, the great, private conservative leader who whispers in the President’s ears. The untold story of this administration, and one that I asked him about with very little success at getting an answer (to be honest, my question was poorly formed as it is a difficult topic), is that Cheney has been the great conservative influence at the White House.
Solid, credible, dependable sources on Capitol Hill, both staff and elected leaders, tell me Cheney is the guy who they go to when they White House goes wobbly. It’s Cheney who calms the waters and straightens the spines.”
I have a pretty good idea which side the historians will take, but time will tell.
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By Frederick Douglass
January 8, 2009 7:15 PM | Link to this
I don’t blame Cheney. Who in their right mind would want to take credit for the national debacle we’ve all had the misfortune of witnessing for 8 years?
By Class of '98
January 8, 2009 7:16 PM | Link to this
Jay, your last sentence reminds me of a George Carlin quip about himself, but it could also be applied to you…
“I’ve got lots of good ideas. The problem is, they all suck.”
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 7:19 PM | Link to this
Well, at least we know Biden won’t be whispering in any jug ears.
Is he still alive?
By Morningstar
January 8, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this
By @@ ((From previous thread)) January 8, 2009 5:16 PM Morningstar: Good for you! Please don’t elaborate as to why you have to place the questionable “literature” between two paper towels.
I’ll be glad to elaborate anyway sweetie. It means I don’t care for trash, and that means trashy literature or trashy language that I see on this blog from TRASHY people, who claim to be CHRISTAINS.
If I buy a book and it seems to elaborate on the ‘trash’ rather than the true story, weeeel, go figure. Believe me, you can’t always tell a book by it’s cover!!! As my Grandma always said “Pretty is as Pretty does.”
Course some here wouldn’t have a clue. I think it’s Christain to throw it in the TRASH, rather than pass it on, as I usually do.
They will continue to provide their little cutsie whatevers….thinking they are cute….TRASHY!!!!! Reckon they need hormone replacement?? As stated earlier, when you have a seven (7) year old mind, you tend to………
Off to Jekyll Island untill about March 1, 2009. Perhaps TRASH Bimbobat who questioned my finances earlier will wonder why……..
By @@
January 8, 2009 7:36 PM | Link to this
My goodness Morningstar! ‘Ya don’t wanna head off to Jekyll all flustered. Calm yourself and have a wonderful trip.
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He do have an aura about him, jay.
Warming, like a pair of slippers.
Just used ^^^ that analogy to irritate the leftists.
The calm eye in a hurricane.
Cheney’s brilliance is exceeded only by his sex appeal.
By Morningstar
January 8, 2009 7:41 PM | Link to this
By @@ January 8, 2009 7:36 PM My goodness Morningstar! ‘Ya don’t wanna head off to Jekyll all flustered. Calm yourself and have a wonderful trip.
Thanks @@. I’m not at all flusteed; however, I am getting a bit ahead of myself. I’m off until Feb. 1, or thereabouts, depending on how we feel. Have a great winter everyone!
A big snow would be great!!!! Cheers!
By Grumpa
January 8, 2009 7:59 PM | Link to this
I think Dick should have been honest with Herb. Herb put Dick in the number two slot to keep an eye on Georgie and to make sure he didn’t blow this career like he’d done so many times before. Dick just didn’t have the heart I guess to tell Herb. Maybe he figured that even Herb would figure it out on his own eventually. Anyway, long story short, Herb has hopes that his little one, Jeb, will continue to comfort him in his twilight years. Real Americans, however, don’t want to ever see another Bush set foot outside of Texas unless they’re exiling themselves in another country like Iraq or some other place where they’re sure to be welcomed with loaded, I mean, open arms.
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 8:20 PM | Link to this
Well, the Oklahoma cheerleaders are the winners so far.
Dey rock!
By getalife
January 8, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this
dick has no credibility and not man enough to take any blame.
The ultimate chickenhawk just like w.
Harvin is back!
Go Gators!
By RB from Gwinnett
January 8, 2009 8:45 PM | Link to this
Gee, Jay, you’re really going out on a limb predicting historians, who are typically far left leaning like yourself, will choose to believe the worst of Cheney. My guess is you and all your historians still don’t think Clinton raped about 3-4 other women prior to his escapades with Monica because he said so.
At the end of the day, Jay, you believe that because YOU WANT
By Chad Harris
January 8, 2009 8:49 PM | Link to this
I wonder if Cheney discussed his order to Scootsie Libby to leak Plame’s ID or his plot with complicit Dems for illegal wiretapping.
Maybe he regailed Red State Bozo with tales of how Bush DOJ with 11 days and counting until they are gone, has been harassing whistle blower Thomas Tamm, the former DOJster who leaked the illegal wiretap story to Jim Risen.
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this
My goodness, listen to these homey Florida lovers announcing the game, do they still have their pants on?
Did they miss the INT their little Joe Montana threw a while ago?
By Chad Harris
January 8, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this
Palin reveals just how much of a moron she is at length
The closest to a Tina Fey grin she gives in this excerpt is that if she had run as a Democrat people would have loved her.
Gotta get back to watching Joe the Plumber’s masterful coverage of Gaza in Israel—of course we see Pulitzer closin’ in on ole Joe.
By The Attorney/Surgeon Corporal
January 8, 2009 9:01 PM | Link to this
A Couple of Thoughts
1) Headline
The incoming Obama administration is prepared to abandon George Bush’s doctrine of isolating Hamas by establishing a channel to the Islamist organisation, sources close to the transition team say.
Negotiating with terrorists. Our worst fears are going to be realized.
2) I see Luckovich has started drawing Obama with big ears like he did Bush.
By Midori
January 8, 2009 9:10 PM | Link to this
RB,
if you will, please — who were all these women that Bill Clinton raped.
Do you have a source for that?
thanks in advance.
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 9:14 PM | Link to this
Boooooo mer!
By RB from Gwinnett
January 8, 2009 9:20 PM | Link to this
Midori, If you haven’t been paying any closer attention to the exploits of Bill Clinton than that, me listing them for you at this point would be a waste of my time. You’re not worth it. You could Google it if you want. Or you could just continue to stick your head in the sand.
BTW, Jay, that last comment was supposed to be, “you believe it because you want to believe it.” Nothing anyone tells you would change your opinion.
By Chad Harris
January 8, 2009 9:20 PM | Link to this
Corporal—
That great anatomical insight must have come from all the years of residency you did. How ‘bout them chest tubes?
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 9:20 PM | Link to this
By the way, al-Gitmo, the score is 14-3 Sooners as far as our little bet goes.
You cannot hit the receiver before the ball gets there, the wienie ACC refs blew that, 7 points OU.
And you can’t break the plane of the goal will you’re laying on your back at the 5 yard line, I gave you a field goal on that.
Deal with it.
By Midori
January 8, 2009 9:21 PM | Link to this
I repeat:
RB,
if you will, please — who were all these women that Bill Clinton raped.
Do you have a source for that?
thanks in advance.
By getalife
January 8, 2009 9:31 PM | Link to this
Come on Andy,
Don’t cheat. Stopped the Sooners at the goal line. Good game so far.
The dems are upset with Obama because he is bypassing their corrupt as-ses and tricking down to the States.
You can support that can’t you?
By spodey
January 8, 2009 9:35 PM | Link to this
I love how people try to pull out Bill Clinton’s personal life as a cheap distraction from the guy in the hotseat— wake up. Cheney has had a large part in destroying repect for the U.S., our security by drawing more international anger and hatred by their actions, thousands of human lives in an unnecessary arrogant exploitive war and the general morale of millions of Americans.
By getalife
January 8, 2009 9:40 PM | Link to this
President Clinton has a 69% approval rating.
Nuff said.
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 9:53 PM | Link to this
Pass interference again, 21-3 Sooners.
What’s up with the refs, they trying to award Florida for voting for Oblahmasan?
I’ve seen holding they didn’t call, time running off the clock after they play is dead, rules just don’t mean a thing in the blue states anymore, do they?
By Bud Wiser
January 8, 2009 9:57 PM | Link to this
Who cares what the historians will think, Jay?
The left wing idiots will saunter in and rewrite the history books to something they like or approve of anyway.
You guys do it all the time.
Get a grip.
By Bud Wiser
January 8, 2009 10:00 PM | Link to this
Man, if the Sooners blow this thing and let Florida win, I am out some serious coin, not to mention the stupid Gators suit I will have to wear to the golf course one day next week.
By Doggone/GA
January 8, 2009 10:17 PM | Link to this
“The left wing idiots will saunter in and rewrite the history books to something they like or approve of anyway”
Close, but no cigar. They’ll rewrite them to reflect the TRUTH … which is SO lacking in the collective memory that is “conservative” “history”
By RB from Gwinnett
January 8, 2009 10:17 PM | Link to this
Spodey, You’re the one who needs to wake up. The same people who you claim hate us as a result of Cheney’s actions were bombing the WTC, USS Cole, barraks, embassey’s, etc DURING YOUR BELOVED CLINTON’S ADMINISTRATION. They HATE us fool. ALL of us. Not just Bush and co as you simpletons would like to believe. And noting Obama does short of throwing Israel under the bus will change that.
Get your prayer mat ready, Spodey.
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:34 PM | Link to this
Wow, I checked back in during halftime on the other thread, and I really made sunshine and thunder upset:
Check this out:
By sunshine and thunder
January 8, 2009 8:44 PM | Link to this
BOSCH
You wrote:
I have four people in my life that I would die for without thinking, and that’s the only thing that concerns me.
Then you are no better than a dog. A female dog will die for all of her puppies but, in every other part of her life, she only survives.
Which probably describes you. You have nothing more to your life than your immediate family and friends.
You have no idea what it is like to be willing to lay down your life for your buddies, your commander, your president, your country, your way of life.
I pity someone like you. You are not much more than a dog. I hope your puppies take good care of you in your old age. You don’t deserve the respect of anyone else.
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Some people are just so mean. Wait, did he call me a b!tch?
By sunshine and thunder
January 8, 2009 10:34 PM | Link to this
MIDORI
Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick. She claimed as much in a nationally televised interview with Lisa Myers on NBC in 1998. Clinton has never personally denied the charges.
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:37 PM | Link to this
I agree with Frederick from earlier - even Cheney is trying to squirm out of responsibility for the state of the nation.
Pretty sad.
Cheney is a succubus.
By sunshine and thunder
January 8, 2009 10:39 PM | Link to this
BOSCH
Thanks for the free post. I’m glad you’re beginning to understand how shallow and small you are.
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:39 PM | Link to this
sunshine,
Wow, then you’d think he’d be arrested or something.
Still so mad?
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:41 PM | Link to this
Florida is coming back!!!!! Go Gators!!!
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:43 PM | Link to this
sunshine,
Your welcome. I can be pretty shallow sometimes, but I’m pretty tall.
If you want to call me a b!tch, then just go ahead and do it.
By sunshine and thunder
January 8, 2009 10:45 PM | Link to this
Would one of you moonbats please explain to me just what Dick Cheney did to get your panities in a wad? I think you just don’t like the way he looks. He is obviously smarter than 99% of the democrats in America. He was successful in every thing he did right up to and including being VP of the US for EIGHT years.
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:45 PM | Link to this
sunshine,
Woops! That’s “You’re welcome” not “Your”
I wouldn’t want you to “get me” on grammar or anything.
By RB from Gwinnett
January 8, 2009 10:46 PM | Link to this
Bosch, I once wrote of you that you’re the kind of person who if they saw someone bleeding to death on the other side of the street you would act like you didn’t see them and keep on walking. Your reply was something stupid to the effect of ‘nobody lives across the street from me’.
I’d say S&T has you pretty much pegged.
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 10:48 PM | Link to this
21-10 Sooners.
By sunshine and thunder
January 8, 2009 10:50 PM | Link to this
BOSCH
A tall b***?
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:51 PM | Link to this
RB,
And one time you posted an analysis of the real estate market based on what you saw on a billboard.
But I did double post earlier, so hey, we’re not all perfect huh?
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 10:53 PM | Link to this
sunshine,
A tall what? That last word got censored.
By getalife
January 8, 2009 10:55 PM | Link to this
They are killing each other out there. What a fight. Forth Quarter is going to be great.
By AJC/DNC Management
January 8, 2009 11:06 PM | Link to this
Boooooo mer!
By RB from Gwinnett
January 8, 2009 11:06 PM | Link to this
No, Bosch, I used data provided by the Atlanta realtor assoc. on the number of homes for sale in Atlanta to make a point that the Atlanta market had not been affected to the level it was in other places at that time. But as usual, when the data doesn’t support your silly little whining you attempt to belittle the messenger because you don’t have the intelligence or the moral fiber to debate the issue.
By getalife
January 8, 2009 11:11 PM | Link to this
Haaar vin!
By Bosch
January 8, 2009 11:11 PM | Link to this
RB,
Yeah, from a billboard.
But, why should I be so snarky. You have proven time again your superior intellect, so I guess I’ll go watch the rest of the game.
Good night. Have nice dreams.
By Chad Harris
January 8, 2009 11:15 PM | Link to this
It’s slightly intriguing how in the final analysis the thugs think they gain something by knocking a commenter as a defense for the shortcomings of their party or the collosal screwups of someone like Cheney.
When you don’t like someone’s idea, try to grow enough of a pair to say why instead of saying xyz commenter is a sumbitch or using juvenile invective to say what amounts to the same thing.
Go after their ideas.
You’re not going to get your candidate elected by going on a little AJC blog comment section and posting that so and so is so and so.
You’re only going to get your candidate elected by having ideas that work and that other people will vote for.
You can sit here as many of you seem to do and rail about fantasies like Bill Clinton raping women or how bad Obama is 24 X7, but none of that is going to get any legislation passed you want, or block any legislation you don’t want.
That tack is also a substitute for learning the issues and the people in government. The more you waste your time saying xyz commenter is trash when you can’t advance an idea or issue you have the more you guarantee that your party is going to have less control.
Guilt by association which seems to be a major Repubican theme didn’t work in the last election, and it never will.
Bill Clinton isn’t likely to be in office any more during his life time or yours. You’re not running against Bill Clinton as much as he might wish you were.
By The Attorney/Surgeon Corporal
January 8, 2009 11:17 PM | Link to this
By Campbell Brown CNN Commentary: Obama’s lofty ideas lack specifics
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/08/campbell.brown.obama/index.html#cnnSTCText
It was so much easier during the campaing wasn’t it ………….
By RB from Gwinnett
January 8, 2009 11:20 PM | Link to this
Bosch, the billboard keeps track of the number of homes for sale in Atlanta. What exactly is your point? That because it’s on a billboard it can’t be accurate?
Were you attacked by a billboard as a small child or something? Make a point, dude.
By getalife
January 8, 2009 11:27 PM | Link to this
Big interception.
Florida scores a touchdown and they are champs.
Start posting pro Obama Andy.
By jon
January 8, 2009 11:31 PM | Link to this
Vice President Cheney is a great American who has served his country with honor. The Left and the media (wait, that’s the same thing) have vilified this man based on their own boogey-man fantasies that have been developed from watching too many Hollywood movies.
History will look kindly on the accomplishments of VP Cheney and President Bush.
By Chad Harris
January 8, 2009 11:31 PM | Link to this
I don’t know what was so much easier for whom Corporal —but this election hasn’t been easy for you has it.
And events like the new OLC whose definition and name you have to look up are going to make it more difficult for you.
11 more days.
By Chad Harris
January 8, 2009 11:37 PM | Link to this
I guess Dr. Corporal this even makes Sonny Purdue’s stupidity buying $6 million worth of Tamiflu to go after pandemic H5N1 look even smarter doesn’t it?
Flu Found Resistant to Main Antiviral Drug
By getalife
January 8, 2009 11:48 PM | Link to this
LSU, LSU, Florida.
SEC dynasty.
I look forward to a week of Andy’s pro Obama posts.
By Frederick Douglass
January 9, 2009 12:02 AM | Link to this
Jon, there aren’t any bigger promoters of the Boogey man specter than conservatives, as evidenced by their utter fear of Obama. When a party runs what’s supposed to be a serious campaign based on the “Maverick” theme, and how HOT the VP choice is, can you get any more Hollywood than that?
By The Attorney/Surgeon Corporal
January 9, 2009 12:33 AM | Link to this
I have posted a half a dozen or so negative articles/comments about Obama the past few days. All were from liberal newspapers or Democrats.
We’ll get our real turn once he’s in office.
Marines - standby to repel boarders !!
By Chad Harris
January 9, 2009 1:02 AM | Link to this
Corporal—
What’s up with you and the alternate bold font fashion statement? It’s like a neon sign. There are plenty of liberal blogs critical of all kinds of facets of Obama but there is complete agreement that this country is infinitely better off with Bush and Cheney out of D.C.
Merlin the Magician would be intinitely challeged because of the degree to which Bush’s administration ran this country into the ground.
Your mission, as it appears has been the assignment to look for negative Obama press clippings? That’s pretty low functionality on the totem poll.
You’re out of ideas right? You’re going to overcome the uphill battle your party fases in gettng most anyone elected by looking for negative Obama press clippings?
Sounds like a stellar plan!
By The Attorney/Surgeon Corporal
January 9, 2009 1:05 AM | Link to this
Symbolically, V.P. Cheney reminds me of an arrogant police officer who gives tickets for doing 51 in a 45 and then risks his life later that evening confronting an armed burglar while citizens sleep safely in their beds.
Oh perfidious nation ……..
By Glenn
January 9, 2009 1:08 AM | Link to this
Corporal-Not never was. I called him out on that last week and exposed him thusly.
Regarding Cheney, he should be imprisoned for the rest of his life for his crimes. All the shaved-headed, truck-drivin’ Murcun hillbillies can mourn for him there.
By The Attorney/Surgeon Corporal
January 9, 2009 1:15 AM | Link to this
TAPS
By The Attorney/Surgeon Corporal
January 9, 2009 1:19 AM | Link to this
Ooops!
Just saw another one:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Barack Obama’s proposed tax cuts ran into opposition Thursday from senators in his own party who said they wouldn’t do much to stimulate the economy or create jobs.
Senators from both parties agreed that Congress should do something to stimulate the economy. But Democratic senators emerging from a private meeting of the Senate Finance Committee criticized business and individual tax cuts in Obama’s stimulus plan.
They were especially critical of a proposed $3,000 tax credit for companies that hire or retrain workers.
By GodHatesTrash
January 9, 2009 5:36 AM | Link to this
Since Gannon-Guckert left, Erickson is the administration’s ‘go to’ guy…
By AJC/DNC Management
January 9, 2009 5:51 AM | Link to this
The score was 28-20 Sooners. I don’t have to abide by the results of cheating ACC officials like Norm Coleman does.
But I will give you a consolation, since Fla was so game, one pro Oblahma post-
I love thee Oblahmi because no one will get Republicans back in power quicker than he will.
By GodHatesTrash
January 9, 2009 6:01 AM | Link to this
Class bias? Maybe because you have none, you stupid wasillabilly?
By AJC/DNC Management
January 9, 2009 6:50 AM | Link to this
Did you notice how they all leaned away from Dhimmy Carter, the official Cootieman of former presidents? It was like high-school students to the new girl: “You can’t sit here, we’re the Most Popular table.”-Peggy Noonan
By drew
January 9, 2009 6:58 AM | Link to this
AJC/DNC…I knew denial of reality was the cornerstone of your political ramblings, but I didn’t know it carried over into sports. I guess you’re looking forward to the Falcons/Panthers this weekend.
BWAH!
By spankmonkey
January 9, 2009 7:08 AM | Link to this
What a gathering, we’ve got doctors and marines and historians and wingnuts and bears… oh my! And, of course, the resident Troll under the bridge, Andy. Too bad Andy’s team got spanked, but I’m sure Andy’s no stranger to spanking…
ew
By spankmonkey
January 9, 2009 7:23 AM | Link to this
I’m sure it has not escaped ya’lls attention that Cheney is NOT a part of the executive branch and thusly WILL NOT have to turn over any of his notes or papers for the archives. As well being that he IS NOT part of the executive branch he IS NOT subject to subpeonas or any other investigative tool put in place as part of our government’s checks and balances. In other words, the Vice President is an island floating above the executive, legislative, and judicial branches and not accountable to any of them or the general public.
This is Cheney’s legacy, that and “go f*** yourself” (his words, not mine…).
Just wait till the Boob Joe Biden gets a hold of it… wingnuts will be screaming like stuck pigs. Biden will probably feel embolden to shoot two people in the face…
By SaveOurRepublic
January 9, 2009 11:03 AM | Link to this
Cheney has been a key Neocon for quite a while. He’s long helped the Bushes further the Globalist agenda. Like many surrounding all recent POTUS administrations, Cheney has also been a mainstay in the CFR. Like “Jorge Boosh”, “NWO” Bush Sr, Cheney is a propagator of the Neocon’s Trotskyite, Machiavellian tactics & puppet of the Globalist Elite!
By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
January 9, 2009 12:04 PM | Link to this
VP Cheney is a great American. No one has ever sacrified more than he to serve our contry. I thank the Lord for VP Cheney.
By Robert
January 9, 2009 12:22 PM | Link to this
Dick Cheney was Richard Nixon’s Chief of Staff. The guy telling Nixon that if the President did it, it couldn’t be illegal. Sound familiar?
Dick Cheney should be doing the perp walk. Dick Cheney views the 4th amendment as nothing more than an impediment to absolute executive control in this country. Thank God he doesn’t have 4 more years to work on finishing off the 4th Amendment.