Jay Bookman

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 3:39 PM | Link to this

Maybe he can help out at the leaderless CIA.

geez.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this

He’ll look great in that uniform (if the Democrats let him wear it).

By Chuck

January 6, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

What, wasn’t Dr. Phil available?

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

Maybe he can get Aytch to quit smoking.

Otherwise, our youth will be pushing Obama’s smoking like they did Clinton’s sexcapades.

The President does it !!!

Oh, I forgot. The cigarette smokes. The user is just the sucker.

By channing

January 6, 2009 3:52 PM | Link to this

Seems like a reasonable choice. He certainly understands the science of medicine, and he’s proven that he can communicate.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 3:53 PM | Link to this

P.S. to Jay

I think your spelling is correct.

Political wonk!

By steve

January 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Link to this

What a total joke, just like this whole administration is shaping up to be. First we have the soon to be indicted Bill Richardson drop out and then the completely inexperienced Leon Penetta( sp?) is picked to head the CIA and now a partisan doctor to be the Surgeon General…. America is going to see soon that we made a huge mistake in electing this empty suit.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 4:06 PM | Link to this

only a complete and utter fool believes and would publicly state that people have sex or smoke because “the president” did it.

if that’s the case, make way for a bunch of AWOL, drunk, coke head, idiotic war mongerers.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this

Now, now, Steve - all “heck of a job, Brownies” are not republicans.

or are they?

By Dan

January 6, 2009 4:13 PM | Link to this

You just can’t make this stuff up. The country is becoming a reflection of hollywood instead of the other way around I’m not a doctor but I play one on TV (I know I know, he is licensed but if he were truly adept at medicine and did not have ulterior motives he wouldn’t be on TV.) What a perfect example of the administration as a whole, who cares what managemnet, leadership or decesion making skill they posesses, as long as they look and sound good. and channing at 352 is the perfect example of the good lemming following along.

By RealityKing

January 6, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

Forget about it, Sanjay is doomed, he lacks experience and mostly.., he criticized Michael Moore’s medical documentary on Cuba. You see far left loons don’t forgive or forget and since their panties are already in a bunch over Obama’s refusal to condemn Israel…, appointing Sanjay would be a big mistake.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 4:17 PM | Link to this

AIDS Patient Care and STD’s Volume 18, November 1, 2004

Interestingly, the increase and interest in oral sex among teenagers can be traced to the Monica Lewinsky scandal. This includes the assertion by President Clinton that oral sex was not really sex.

By C2iT

January 6, 2009 4:21 PM | Link to this

Sanjay Gupta is an excellent choice for US Surgeon General The obvious would have been Dr. Louis Gerberding, CDC Official. But Practicing and world network reporting Dr. Gupta has worked and been exposed to MEGA GLOBAL healthcare issues and I feel he will bring the 21st century and beyond perspective to begin to plug the holes in our healthcare system and procedures which too will impact the healthcare economy. Presidential elect BARAK OBAMA Im still impressed. This locomotive for US progress is full throttle and full steam ahead and those that dont or cannot get on board WELL YOU TOO will fortunately benefit purely by osmosis.

By Frederick Douglass

January 6, 2009 4:21 PM | Link to this

Management, leadership, and decision making were hall marks of the Bush administration——-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

By getalife

January 6, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

Worked for Hillary and is for health care reform.

Works for me.

By @@

January 6, 2009 4:25 PM | Link to this

Let’s see now, jay….PEOPLE magazine listed Gupta as “One of the Sexiest Men Alive” and USA Today touted him as a “pop culture icon”.

Obama and Gupta — two men “out standing” in their field.

Alrighty din!

By Cindy

January 6, 2009 4:26 PM | Link to this

Hmm, RealityKing. My “panties” are not in a “bunch”.

I love these comments! GWBUSH had absolutely no leadership skills, yet these people follow him over the edge and into the darkness. bush supporters attacking leadership skills?? Well, I know the folks they disparage have to be good if any body who thinks bush was a good leader doesn’t like them.

They obviously have no management or political training. Actually, Obama’s cabinet is shaping up fairly nicely. A lot of folks with leadership and political skills necessary to work in Washington and get policy moved. Panetta’s nomination is saying the CIA needs good strong management, and this man is a pro at that. There are plenty of spy knowledgeable people there to handle that aspect; Panetta has to “manage” the whole network and bring respect to an agency that lost it under bush.

By Neil

January 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Link to this

Sanjay’s a neurosurgeon. Can he diagnose what’s wrong with the left’s collective brain?

By The Way

January 6, 2009 4:31 PM | Link to this

America: Healthcare is on it’s way.

By getalife

January 6, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

Norm will not concede, Burris turned away, Jeb will not run because he would get crushed and the dems are stabbing Obama in the back. Drama.

Politics as usual.

By Davo

January 6, 2009 4:37 PM | Link to this

Fascinating choice. This makes as much sense as putting a rocket scientist in charge of NASA, I suppose.

By cubalibre

January 6, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this

Gupta is an Emory-trained neurosurgeon with plenty of hands-on experience (I read somewhere that he actually performed surgeries on children injured in the early days of the Iraq war). His public persona aside, he’s certainly more than qualified for a position that, when it comes down to it, is really more about PR than making/setting healthcare policy (that’s still the purview of HHS). The fact that he’s smoking hot cetainly doesn’t hurt!

By jon

January 6, 2009 4:41 PM | Link to this

Hillary’s speechwriter!?!?! This is getting surreal.

Maybe Wolf Blitzer will be picked to head up the FCC.

Better than the Clinton dogwashers that the O’man is picking for most other admin positions.

By Bosch

January 6, 2009 4:45 PM | Link to this

Holy crap! Dr. Sanjay Gupta? Wow.

Wait a minute, is he a real doctor? He gets on my nerves.

By damethebutcher

January 6, 2009 4:48 PM | Link to this

Steve you Stupid Idiot:

Maybe the CIA needed someone like that fool Bush had that said there were WMD’s in Iraq. That is the kind of person we don’t need but I am sure you still think the WMD’s will be found.

By dumbing down

January 6, 2009 4:48 PM | Link to this

Gupta is the most “Ate up man in America.” His narcissism and self serving on air is sickening. We went from a WAR HERO Dr. Richard Carmona, a former Green Beret ,high school dropout, who overcame a war… to this political hack. I am DISGUSTED at this choice. Gupta will drop you at the minute he sees something else to climb to HIS top. He is a punk!

By Dusty

January 6, 2009 4:49 PM | Link to this

Well, at least he is not from Chicago.

But Obama better watch out. This guy sounds smoother, smarter, successful=er, speech writer wonderful and probably spoiled by good looks and wily women. He may have an eager eye on Obama’s theatrical throne of acqusitions to fill the vibrant personality of a conqueror.

Remember ALexander the Great? He looked good too and was NEVER satisfied with where he was. This one may be Gupta the Great! Right, Doc?

By professional skeptic

January 6, 2009 5:02 PM | Link to this

The rethuglicons are wailing and gnashing their teeth, because the end to their beloved 8-year era of anti-intellectualism, repressive unyielding ideology and religious fundamentalism is at hand.

Keep crying, rethugs, as intelligent, thinking, compassionate individuals with a solid grasp of English grammar take back our government.

By Jane

January 6, 2009 5:03 PM | Link to this

How about Ted for Sec. of the Interior? He already owns half the land anyway.

By getalife

January 6, 2009 5:09 PM | Link to this

Good idea Jane.

By Dusty

January 6, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

Dear butcherboy@ 4:48

The dead Kurds of northern Iraq would like to dispute your claim that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction. He certainly knew how to massively kill a whole village or two.

Perhaps you should have told the CIA, the President, US Congress, British Intelligence, British Parliment and the UN that they were ALL wrong about Iraq. YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD THEM THEN!!

Oh but I forgot. You will save us all with your white anti-war poster.

Let me paraphrase Admiral Perry who said in battle: Damn the dummies! Full speed ahead!

By Paul

January 6, 2009 5:21 PM | Link to this

Dusty

You cited a gay guy as a role model?!!? Okay, maybe not gay… maybe just was reeeeeally friendly with his General Staff. But he could fight. Great tactician. Won wars. Conquered everything.

He’d never make it in today’s military or society. Pity.

@@

From last night - the Panetta column. Let’s see what happens when the Professor gets a dose of reality, shall we? I do give him credit - he began with the general term ‘torture’ and then gave examples of what he considers it to be (waterboarding). Even though his predecessor said waterboarding three terrorists (not US citizens, not POWs) “brought the U.S. more valuable information about planned terror plots than all of the government’s other intelligence gathering efforts.”

“The context is it’s post-September 11. I’ve got reports of nuclear weapons in New York City, apartment buildings that are going to be blown up, planes that are going to fly into airports all over again, plot lines that I don’t know … I’m struggling to find out where the next disaster is going to occur.”

Question I’d love to hear during Panetta’s confirmation hearings: “Mr. Panetta, you are in charge of the CIA. Nerve agents have just been released in four metropolitan centers, killing eight thousand people. The CIA has captured a top AQ leader who legal wiretaps, duly signed off by a judge, revealed to be the mastermind of the attacks. Intercepts showed the next phase is biological agents released against unknown targets in the next day, followed by suicide bombers in elementary schools. The leader has refused to tell us where these attacks will occur, where the cells are, who the operatives are. Mr. Panetta, what course of action will you take as CIA Director?”

Waxman, Harmon and Boxer object to the question. Pelosi and Rockefeller ask, as they did in 2002, if waterboarding is tough enough and if he can’t think of anything stronger. The hearings are recessed.

The world ain’t a classroom, Mr. Panetta.

By @@

January 6, 2009 5:31 PM | Link to this

Paul:

Let’s see what happens when the Professor gets a dose of reality, shall we?

I fear that the long and lengthy deliberations may prove to be too late to do any good.

In the column Panetta was quoted as saying “No torture under any circumstances.

Somethin’ about human dignity of a suspected terrorist.

Uh huh…sho ‘nuff!

By Mort Merkel

January 6, 2009 5:33 PM | Link to this

Dude, what a bummer. I was hoping for Dr. Drew with undersecretary Adam Carolla.

By CommunistAJC

January 6, 2009 5:35 PM | Link to this

Maybe Dr. Gupta can perform brain surgery on the democrat party.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 5:36 PM | Link to this

Gupta has told administration officials that he wants the job, and the final vetting process is under way. He has asked for a few days to figure out the financial and logistical details of moving his family from Atlanta to Washington but is expected to accept the offer.-WaPo

Wonderful, if he needs a few days to tackle the “big move,” I’m sure he should find Brain Surgery and the like to be quite, uh, simple.

Yeesh.

By Paul

January 6, 2009 5:40 PM | Link to this

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I tend to get concerned when people speak in absolutes on such topics. I suppose a follow-up question would be “Mr. Panetta, Indian authorities have uncovered terrorists plots in the US, plots we did not know about, as a result of their interrogation of the terrorist captured in the Mumbai attacks. Indian authorities stated the information was obtained after the terrorist was subjected to loud music, temperature extremes and being interrogated by naked women, practices you have labeled as torture and an affront to cultural dignity.

“Mr. Panetta, given the information was obtained through tainted methods, would you refuse to receive the information from the Indian authorities?”

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 6:06 PM | Link to this

Sanjay is a great choice for Surgeon General. He’s a solid doc, and has had to do quick research, homework and calls to get together breaking medical reports for CNN and he does it well. He hasn’t been afraid to go into relatively dangerous areas on short notice, as when he did his reports from Pandemic H5N1 (flu) epicenters in China. That’s the good news.

The downside is in the concept of what the surgeon general can do normally, and that’s historically been “hardly anything.” Yep they have the “bully pulpit” to a degree, and they can get out pamphlets and recommend what has been in past adminstration common sense health recommendations that you’d have to have been on another planet not to have heard or read. These should have been conveyed and implemented by your physician(s) unless you don’t have one or any insurance, and that’s about 52 million Americans as I write this.

Normally the Surgeon General has very little impact on health economic matters or with Congress, but maybe this will be different. It all depends on how Sanjay is used by HHS and Obama. If it were up to me, I’d make maximal use of his talents and give him some clout, input and Daschle’s ear. Time will tell.

The outgoing HHS Secretary, Mike Levitt, had been reprehensibly bad from a physician’s standpoint. Under Levitt and Julie Gerberding the CDC’s morale and their personnel have deteriorated significantly. A lot of people couldn’t stand Julie and they left. Those people were accomplished MD subspecialists and some were MD-PhDs. The list of Julie Gerberding screwups among physicians is pretty long. I’ll be happy to see her leave and so will a lot of other docs.

The cabinet member who is HHS Secretary has the real clout and that’s Tom Daschle. Could there be a relationship with Daschle, Obama and Sanjay that would make Sanjay into the first AG who ever did anything that has real health impact? It could happen.

By Paul

January 6, 2009 6:11 PM | Link to this

Chad

Okay, I’ll make an on-topic post, finally. I hope what you say comes to pass. One has to wonder why someone with his ‘celebrity’ status (more than just normal doctoring) would take the position. Pres-elect Obama’s already shown himself to be a bit out of the box. Possibly these two creative guys got together and we’ll see something different. Hope so.

By AmVet

January 6, 2009 6:11 PM | Link to this

TWO WEEKS!!!

Only two more weeks until our valorous Hero of the Texas ANG, his repugnant Vice-Criminal and the rest of that rogue’s gallery end their botched occupation of the people’s White House and government!!!

Let’s hope before Jan. 20 he doesn’t invade Paraguay. Or Iceland. Or…

ONLY TWO MORE WEEKS!

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 6:12 PM | Link to this

It should have read could there be a relationship among Sanjay, Obama, and Daschle that would make Sanjay the first Surgeon General who ever had real health impact? That’d be great and time will tell.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 6:21 PM | Link to this

Paul—

Sanjay’s relatively young as surgeon general’s go on the average at 39 years old. He has a good reputation as a journalist, and he can be as clinically involved after x # of years he serves as SJ as he wants to and will still be in his mid or late 40’s if he stays and when Obama is re-elected.

I know he has no lack of ideas he’d love to get into play. Sanjay is well aware of many health care delivery problems we have, and I suspect the challenge of making things better and having Daschle’s ear and Obama’s ear in hopes of doing that attracts him to this job.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 6:21 PM | Link to this

Yes, we are going to be having a liberal Surgeon General now.

By @@

January 6, 2009 6:26 PM | Link to this

Paul:

“Mr. Panetta, given the information was obtained through tainted methods, would you refuse to receive the information from the Indian authorities?”

And Panetta’s response would be “Hearsay will not suffice. A first-hand account is required. Bring me the nekkid women!”

By Paul

January 6, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this

AmVet

[[Let’s hope before Jan. 20 he doesn’t invade Paraguay. Or Iceland. Or…]]

Obama’s got dibs on Pakistan, Biden’s called Africa, so I think Bush will leave it alone -

Oh - welcome back, and Happy New Year!

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 6, 2009 6:34 PM | Link to this

AmVet He won’t invade Paraguay. He owns close to 100,000 acres there. Mr. G and I dream of a 2BR/1Bth mountain cabin as a getaway, ironic ain’t it?

on topic

I’m not crazy about Dr. Gupta. I am not crazy about some of “modern” medicine. I am however very much pro-science. I’ll give the “hot” Surgeon General the benefit of the doubt.

I am impressed that the young man would give up the dollar value of the job he has now. A quick check didn’t come up with the salaries, but I suspect he’ll make a pile less, at least in the short term.

bad segue

Did you see that Chief Justice Roberts expressed his concern about the salaries of Judges? Hell America, legislating from the bench is a costly business.

I’d love to have the Obama’s over for a Friday Night Family Steak Night!

By Paul

January 6, 2009 6:35 PM | Link to this

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For all the lightheartedness, those are really serious questions. Senators pepper nominees (and Justices to be) with all sorts of questions and hypotheticals to get a sense of how they’d apply their values and vision to the job. I think it’s pretty clear we should expect the same from a CIA director. If he views certain practices as torture, does that mean he’d refuse any information received by such means, even from third parties? Does he think in absolutist terms, or does he allow for exceptions? Does he think terms such as “right” “wrong” “moral” should be guiding principles in American intelligence services? Would he authorize his agents to lie to a contact? Would he double-cross an enemy agent? Naive questions, I know…

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 6:44 PM | Link to this

What’s the matter? Aren’t there any more Kennedys to appoint that aren’t dead, near dead, related to the dead, drunk, on drugs, or in jail?

Next thing you know O will appoint Jimmy Carter as Housing Secretary, with all that hands on experience and all. If Billy were still alive he could be Secretary of the Inferior.

Reid already backtracking on Burris - I predicted it as soon as the announcement was made, BTW. He’s got Sharpton in his corner too. Wow. The change just keeps on comin’.

Panetta can write a good speech about how well he’ll run the CIA, I bet. Maybe he will also drop so many more names that the Valerie Plame thing will look like a girl scout party. But, the Dems are good at leaving dead bodies in the wake of things they don’t like.

Don’t believe me?

Ask Vince Foster.

Ask Mary Jo Kopeckne.

Oh wait, can’t do that; they’re dead. Sorry. My bad.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 6:46 PM | Link to this

Alright, I’m starting a pool, and this doesn’t count against my two bullets because it’s related to some other comments made on the blog.

Here’s the question and who ever guesses the closest will win………………..something.

What will Amvet whine about after Bush is out of office?

Since it is the only thing I’ve ever heard him discuss, I’m taking Bush, endlessly and forever more, at least until China nukes us. I honestly believe he doesn’t know any other subject.

So throw your hat in the ring and I’ll come up with some sort of a prize.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 6:52 PM | Link to this

Did anybody else see Hairy Reed rampaging today against the benign black man ?

The Roland Burris water fountain- not inside the Senate, bwa.

ew

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 6:54 PM | Link to this

With all of O’s Clintonian appointees, the smell in the air is the change, that is for sure.

And AJC/DNC, I have your answer:

The whiners will still blame Bush because Obama had to make all of the appointments from their beloved former leader because Bush made so many wrong appointments that have to be made up for by steering hard hard hard left. It’s Bush’s fault that these sleazebags and incompetents are coming back.

Can’t you see that?

Can’t you see?

In fact, some idiot already countered that against one of my early critical posts already; I don’t know who, and am too lazy to look back to find it.

I’m sure some nimrod will point out how great the Clintons were. Hell, like I said before, they’ve got lots of voices to sing hallelujah - Vince Foster - wait, he’s still dead, isn’t he?

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 6:55 PM | Link to this

Nice picture of Gupta BTW Jay. I see he has mastered the white man’s overbite that Billy Clinton made so famous.

He’s a shoe in for the Dimwits.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 6:58 PM | Link to this

In the wake of a lot of concern about Panetta, the CIA, and torture (Panetta’s far from the choice I would want as head of CIA—I’d like someone who had been there and done a lot of jobs there for years) I’d like to throw in one story that is unfortunately not the only one by far.

An Ex-Detainee of the U.S. Describes a 6-Year Ordeal

This guy was never charged, and he was held in American custody at Gitmo and rendered around like a pinball on Ritlin, tortured for years. These stories are showing up from Gitmo and othe prisons the US contracted to render to. What will be interesting is now that we have key people coming in like OLC nominee Dawn Johnsen and Harvard Law Dean as Solicitor General and often discussed short list nominee for an Obama Supreme Court Appointment Elana Kagen what position will Obama DOJ take in law suits by these people tortured and imprisoned for years by Bush who were charged with nothing and convicted of nothing.

What has been par for Bush DOJ’s course has been to use the “State Secrets defense” and get away with it as they did in the Khaled El-Masri case that the D.C. Circuit killed and the Supreme Court denied cert. to on October 9, 2007.

The State Secrets song and dance is that litigating the case would jeapordize national security so screw the person who was imprisoned, renditioned, and tortured for about 6 years.

It was shot down yesterday in the ruling by Chief Judge Vaugn Walker in district court in the Nortern District of California that allows the suit against the Telecoms for illegal wiretapping to go forward.

This mornng, one of the first things done by the House was to authorize continuing the law suit against Rove and Miers who were ordered by Judge Bates to comply with subpoenas and then rushed to the D.C. Circuit to block the subpoenas.

This effectively killed the subpoena case in the 110th Congress.

House Rules Package Authorizing Continuing to Enforce and Litigate Subpona Against Rove and Miers

The way this should have been handled is that the House should have invoked Inherent Contempt and had Miers and Rove picked up by the Seargant at Arms office, and thrown into a room in the basement of Congress.

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 7:03 PM | Link to this

Wow, now isn’t it just like a Dimwitocrat to put full faith and value into what a criminal terrorist says to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Tool.

By @@

January 6, 2009 7:08 PM | Link to this

Well Paul, since the media failed to hit Obama with any serious questions during the campaign, I’m in the habit of wondering.

As an individual, I like Panetta. The unknown is what puts me at odds with him as choice for CIA director. It’s alarmed some of the more hawkish dems as well. That’s a good sign.

Like you said, we’ll have to wait and see.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 7:13 PM | Link to this

Click here: My New clock

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 7:14 PM | Link to this

No one uses a pager anymore.

All the cellphone hooked morons are easily identifiable walking around seemingly talking to themselves, until they pass you and you spy the little attachments growing out of their heads and/or ears, sort of making them look like Ray Walston in My Little Martian.

I think that Doctor Lou (Holtz) would be a better choice if you could shake him from that sweet gig at ESPN. He must be a Democrat - he was the only coach that in the storied history of Notre Dame got their football program put on NCAA probation. In fact, Arkansas, Minnesota, and South Carolina also got sanctions shortly after his “work” there.

He’d fit right in!

By Paul

January 6, 2009 7:16 PM | Link to this

Chad

Just to be clear what this ongoing discussion is about: Mr. Panetta has staked out a clear, absolute position without exception. I wonder if it’s really absolute. If it is, should we be concerned? If not, has his position shifted on other issues.

There are some pretty lousy cases out there - I’m now reading the book by the interrogator who alleges some pretty disturbing things at Gitmo. But my position, for the sake of this discussion, is this:

Not everything that makes someone uncomfortable is torture (the Manual for Interrogations standard).

Torture is pretty ineffective if used as a fishing expedition (hey, let’s brutalize this guy and see what he has to say).

Harsh interrogation methods can be effective when used on individuals who we know, without a doubt, have certain information we need (ref Director Tenet).

Such cases are very, very rare. But they do exist.

Authorization for harsh interrogations should be held by the President alone.

Such interrogations should never be conducted by the military.

Such interrogations can not be used on US citizens (Constitution applies) or soldiers captured from countries that are signatories to the Geneva Conventions.

Does that narrow it down a bit?

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 6, 2009 7:16 PM | Link to this

Chad Harris

two of my favorite words - inherent contempt. i read the old cell is being used as storage at the moment.

Bud Wiser

Michael Connell

just a thought

funny when people who support policies that create more terrorists point fingers isn’t it?

By @@

January 6, 2009 7:17 PM | Link to this

What will Amvet whine about after Bush is out of office?

Religious people?

Darwin vs ID?

By getalife

January 6, 2009 7:19 PM | Link to this

Well, he could have chosen Sandy the socks Berger.

Leon can keep a secret and ran the Clinton White House.

Perhaps he can give Rahm some ammo to keep the dems in line.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 7:19 PM | Link to this

For Chad, Paul and Mrs. G

Looks like he gave Rick a run for his money, huh? :)

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 7:20 PM | Link to this

Panetta for CIA

Clinton Ideology Analyst

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 7:22 PM | Link to this

Mrs G

??????????

please share your thought, whatever it may be.

I am drinking my favorite beer right now, and nothing can spoil the taste.

even you

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 7:23 PM | Link to this

What’s This?

ABC Funds Tie Obama to Richardson Probe Figure Embattled Executive David Rubin Gave Thousands to Campaign By JUSTIN ROOD Jan. 6, 2009

President-elect Barack Obama took big money from a man at the center of a federal probe that has forced one of Obama’s top Cabinet picks to withdraw.

By Taxpayer

January 6, 2009 7:24 PM | Link to this

Warning: The Surgeon General has determined that Republicans are bad for America’s health. He will have them surgically removed from all positions of power for the good of America as well as for their own good.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 7:28 PM | Link to this

Sorry

My New Clock

http://obamaclock.org/

By AmVet

January 6, 2009 7:30 PM | Link to this

Yep, religious frauds and unintelligent designers like you @@.

Easy pickins.

Corporal, I too enjoy good beer. What are you drinking?

BTW, one of my favorite quotes of all time - Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. ~ Ben Franklin

By Paul

January 6, 2009 7:32 PM | Link to this

Midori

I did not watch that video. Once you let something in your brain you can never get it out…

I suppose Norm’s gonna do some kind of a lawsuit. Hey, time to move on. Get over it and move on.

Can I be a bit of a tweaking rat and say I hope the Republicans do a better job of letting this go than many Democrats did with the 2000 election results?

:-)

By Midori

January 6, 2009 7:45 PM | Link to this

Paul,

unlike 2000, this recount was 1. allowed to go on (no Brooks Brothers riots; 2. conducted fairly (panel composed of both Dems and Repubs); 3. not sabotaged by the GOP candidate’s campaign chairman who doubled as the sec. of state; 4. NOT decided by the SCOTUS.

So, if you’ll excuse me, it appears that we had a lot of “letting go” to do.

and those are just random incidences off the top of my head (watching Jeopardy - blogging during commercial breaks).

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 7:46 PM | Link to this

Uh, AmVet, I am not sure if you confused me with the Corporal or not, but my favorite beer is:

Dinkel Acker

I have had the good fortune to be in Stuttgart during Voklsfest a few times, and it is quite the scene, going on after the tourist infested Ocktoberfest. Rides in the park for the kiddies, and quite the setup of tents with the beer a flowin’, and the schweinhaxe rotating on these massive flame broilers.

I want to go back. I swear to god that one night this beer goddess came to our table carrying seven of those huge steins of beer in each hand. I worshiped her.

Oh, and Gupta will get the green light.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 7:49 PM | Link to this

Wiser it will probably never occur to you that

1) for all your posts here not one could distinguish you from a child.

2) They all go “dimwitocrat” and the usual horseycrap.

3) This means that you have grown into a child in a man’s body with no brain you can use and conveying here that you’ve learned nothing.

I would be getting a reading tutor if I were you. One of those adult grade school curriculums that teaches basic reading would be the best place for you to start.

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 6, 2009 7:50 PM | Link to this

Bud

something wrong with your fingers?

you catch like a girl, dude.

By @@

January 6, 2009 7:58 PM | Link to this

AmVet:

Yep, religious frauds and unintelligent designers like you @@.

Easy pickins.

Thppbbtt!

My faith! You cannot touch it, take it, or alter it to your liking.

A great source of frustration for a control freak such as yourself, eh AmVet?

By Paul

January 6, 2009 8:02 PM | Link to this

Midori

There - didn’t that feel better to just let it go?

Jeopardy! Yes! Shoulda known. That was the Morgan Freeman character favorite show in The Bucket List.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 8:16 PM | Link to this

well Paul,

I suppose I should thank you for not trying to limit my television viewing to “Good Times” or some other jack@ss 70’s sitcom — like another poster here.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 8:19 PM | Link to this

Hey! Where’d Ackmed go?

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 8:22 PM | Link to this

Andy,

amvet incessantly whines about Reagan so I’m sure he’s not letting go of Bush anytime soon. Such a sad little existence it must be.

Midori,

Your “Brooks Brothers riot” didn’t stop any counting it just stopped the canvassing board from illegally doing the recount behind closed doors.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 8:27 PM | Link to this

which are you, RW?

By @@

January 6, 2009 8:30 PM | Link to this

Paul:

I just read your response to my elaboration on why Paul is naive on national security.

It made me laugh. Not your response, it’s just that

I have always enjoyed putting men on the defensive.

It’s why, when I go out, I wear nothing less than 5” to 6” heels. Puts me at just over 6 ft.

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this

WOW! There’s actual words on the side of Midori’s picture show for a change. Quite the improvement I must say.

By JAY BOOKMAN

January 6, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this

Ackmed is gone, Management.

Let me explain my thinking:

We wouldn’t allow a post in black dialect or stereotypes. We wouldn’t allow a post trucking in Jewish stereotypes, or gay stereotypes. We wouldn’t allow a post attacking Italians via an Italian dialect.

So I applied that same approach to Ackmed. You no doubt disagree. So be it.

By Paul

January 6, 2009 8:36 PM | Link to this

Midori

Limit? Never! “Accept No Limits!” But expand, as in All Things Great and True with…. Battlestar!

By Midori

January 6, 2009 8:38 PM | Link to this

LOL, Paul.

You sound like Captain Picard :)

By Paul

January 6, 2009 8:39 PM | Link to this

@@ 8:30

Great. It’s after 8, you’re talking Amazons in 6-inch stilettos. They’re gonna start coming out of the woodwork… just great…

By @@

January 6, 2009 8:40 PM | Link to this

Well what about an american attacking Americans via an American dialect?

AmVet called me a religious fraud and unintelligent.

I am hurt….HURT I say!!!!!!

Cut me to the quick, he did!!!!

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 8:45 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I know, and we’d never allow in the AJC the fact that Palestinians in Gaza are placing their rockets and other legitimate military targets amongst places where children are present, such as schools and homes.

And then parading the dead children before the willing camera ready western media.

Which is more of an atrocity, me calling attention to it, in my own special way or it?

What do we gain by covering up this outrage, honestly?

By Taxpayer

January 6, 2009 8:47 PM | Link to this

RW is right. Amvet was using an Andy dialect in his attack.

By NRB

January 6, 2009 8:48 PM | Link to this

What a shock. The liberal media pulls for Obama, and now they start getting jobs under his administration. Imagine if McCain won and someone from FOX got a job from him? The liberals would riot in the streets…or at least cry rivers of tears.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 8:55 PM | Link to this

huh?

Dr. Gupta is part of the “liberal media”???

Come again?????

I suppose next I’ll be dubbed as such.

After all - I stayed at a Holiday Inn once.

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 8:59 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer,

Most of the time it’s hard to see dialect in one’s writing but you can paste the page in here and have it translated.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 8:59 PM | Link to this

By JAY BOOKMAN January 6, 2009 8:33 PM We wouldn’t allow a post in black dialect or stereotypes

That isn’t true either.

I’ve seen a lot of instances where black dialect was left up for the sole purpose of attributing it to a Conservative poster.

I mean really, you are the vaunted western media, supposed champions of the little guy, why are we excusing what Hamas is purposefully doing to it’s children?

Just imagine if the exact opposite were true, think of how many young lives could be saved if you wrote up Hamas the way you write up common everyday Republicans.

I honestly don’t understand.

By NRB

January 6, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this

Midori, he works for CNN, which is nothing more than a front for the Democrat Liberal Nutcase Party. I’m sure you’re a dues paying member, too.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 9:06 PM | Link to this

RW—

The canvassing board was well represented by judges chosen by a Republican governor who got so turned off in recent months that he endorsed Obama after listening to the bigot GOP Congresswoman Michele Bachmann questioning whether politicians have “pro-America or anti-America views.”

He was a moderate Republican when he chose the judges who were on the Canvassing Board.

Even if Coleman were to win in every future court he litigates in, and gains counts of the disputed absentee votes, his chances of picking up 225 votes are nil. The absentee votes aren’t from conservatively skewed areas. Frankin is going to pick up more votes if and when they’re counted.

What Coleman can do at best is delay Frankin’s inevitable seating for a while, scoring him some points with national Republicans, because he kept one Dem out of the Senate for a while. The question though is to what end? It would be tough for him to beat an incumbent Franken in Minessota. Incumbents rarely lose in the Senate although it happens once in a while—Fowler did.

Most pols believe that Coleman will only end up p** off far more Minessotans because they are pretty focused on having two people represent them in the Senate.

So I take it you’re comments are in the F*ck we’re losing another one and I wanna growse with my mouse about it.

You’re a smart guy. Kvetching ain’t goin’ anywhere. Your party needs to find positions that people actually want. Right now it’s viewed as the party the majority of voters want to get far away from. Nearly everything it’s touched has turned to pure clusterf*ck.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 9:07 PM | Link to this

LET THE GAMES BEGIN

CAIRO, Egypt – Al-Qaida’s No. 2 leader lashed out at President-elect Barack Obama in a new audio message Tuesday, accusing him of not doing anything to stop Israel’s offensive in the Gaza Strip, according to an intelligence monitoring center.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 9:12 PM | Link to this

Groveling Already?

WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Tuesday that President-elect Barack Obama apologized to her for not notifying her ahead of time that Leon Panetta was his pick for CIA director.

Good grief, if he’s apologizing to her already he won’t have a chance vs. the terrorists !!

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 9:15 PM | Link to this

I’m gonna chill after this last little comment but I know for a fact that the one thing, and only one thing, that could get the left from not loving Oblahmi anymore is if he held up some child to shield himself from an attack.

The libs wouldn’t have a choice.

So why does Hamas not only draw a pass but gets sympathy for this atrocity?

Innocent children.

What have we become?

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 9:16 PM | Link to this

Chad Harris,

In your haste to begin banging out your latest essay you may have missed the fact that the discussion was over a supposed riot in Florida 2000 that Midori was portraying as preventing vote counting, while I was correcting the record that the good citizens involved were only trying to make sure the vote counting was done in public view as is required by Florida sunshine laws.

By Greg Mendel

January 6, 2009 9:20 PM | Link to this

Gupta is a good choice. The Surgeon General isn’t “America’s Doctor” in a directly functional way. He/She is purely a spokesperson for (and to) citizens on issues of health care. We rarely hear from the Surgeon General, but maybe we should, and Gupta — being a media face — is better suited to get some press than all his predecessors.

Speaking of appointments, the choice of Leon Pannetta for CIA director has gotten a lot of flack from both left and right. I think he’s an excellent choice, and I think so because I just finished a book (“Legacy of Ashes”) everyone should read, if you want to know the real history and problems of the CIA. Read it, and you’ll find that the last person on Earth we need as director is a person with “intel experience.” US intel needs a new, BIG broom. Bob Gates and GHW Bush were the only competent CIA directors we’ve ever had. The others prolonged (if not started) the Cold War, or got us into fresh ones.

And regarding left-wing criticism of Obama’s stimulus package featuring major tax cuts — while direct infusion of funds into the financial system may sound better than “giving in” to the Republican mantra of tax cuts, direct infusion has been an absolute disaster. With tax cuts, at least Americans can keep track of the money. The Bush administration — despite congressional begging for accountability — has not (and never will) tell us how the $700 billion+ was/is being spent or squandered.

Nitpick Obama’s picks all you want, but he couldn’t do worse than Bush by choosing names from a phone book or a mental institution.

(Pop Quiz: Who is the current Surgeon General, CIA director, and Secretary of Commerce? If you know the answers, you Googled.)

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 9:27 PM | Link to this

Greg Mendel,

I believe Carlos Guitierez is commerce secretary, but you’re right that I’d have to search for the others. I would venture to say the same holds true pretty much over the history of these positions so if your point is they’ll live in obscurity I’ll agree, but if your point is that Obama has made much more memorable choices, I doubt it. I think those of us that inhabit these boards always know the names as they’re being nominated, but after we even forget them.

By Greg Mendel

January 6, 2009 9:35 PM | Link to this

RW (the original):

My point is that appointing good people is a good idea. Whether they are known or remembered is not important. What is known and will be remembered is that the George W. Bush administration (and its appointees) was an unmitigated failure. It was a failure because he filled his government with rot right from the beginning.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 9:36 PM | Link to this

NRB—

If you imagine for one moment that “someone from Fox aka Faux news” would be a clinically acomplished neurosurgeon who is capable of CNS tumor surgery and has published a journal article entitled Percutaneous Screw Fixation of the Lumbar Spine in the journal Neurosurgery Focus or much less could read and understand any sentence in any article in Neurosurgical Focus or could tell you the names of the vertebra in the spine, much less point out the anatomical parts of the spine, or suture a straight little zip somewhere on the body not requiring a plasty, you let me know who that might be.

The few seconds I’ve watched Fox I don’t see any one them lasting more than a day of freshman med school.

Somehow the sentence from one journal article Sanjay wrote:

“Methods. An existing multiaxial lumbar pedicle screw system was modified so that screws could be placed percutaneously by using an extension sleeve that would allow for remote manipulation of the polyaxial screw heads and remote engagement of the screw locking mechanism..” doesn’t strike me as Fox news material.

And McCain’s not appointing anyone. He’s basically through running for any other office other than the Illinois Senate. He made reckless choices during the latter half of October in particular and throughout the general campaign. He made a fool out of himself in choosing his running mate that would be much less capable of stepping in as President than Tina Fey who brilliantly nailed her using her own absurd comments.

And most liberals find CNN pathetically superficial and at times as stupid as Jon Stewart portrays them to be. But not Dr. Guptah. That’s the focus of this thread.

Being Surgeon General has been historically about communicating health habits to the public. Sanjay is quite qualified for a lot more than that.

Under Obama, a lot of physicians hope that the Surgeon General can get a vote in the equation to get health care better delivered.

We are seeing way too many patients who are way too far into the latter stages of all types of diseases, particularly the common ones like CVD, AODM, and others and particularly in this economy. We’d all like to find a way not only to save the money that taking care of these people costs whether they are insured or not, but to save them the morbidity, pain, and discomfort that not having the opportunity to catch these diseases early on causes.

From a physician’s point of view, I could care less what “station” the Surgeon General comes from, or whether he comes from a TV cable or other channel. What many of us would like to see is someone uniquely qualified and positioned to help Tom Daschle who will be easily confirmed for HHS focus on and get health care bills through Congress that can benefit everyone, and keep us from losing the thousands of people prematurely that we lose in this country.

While we have state of the art care in a lot of medical settings, we also have huge delivery problems in this country, and in a lot of situations I could cite that are life and death, copayments are skyrocketing to a level that crushes all but the most affluent families.

By Y'all are a riot

January 6, 2009 9:36 PM | Link to this

Here’s what makes the ultra-partisan right-wingers who comment so regularly on here hilarious…you CLAIM to believe that appointments should be made based on merit, but what you REALLY mean is that only appointees who share your particular ultra-right-wing bias HAVE merit.

Where else in the world could an Emory-educated neurosurgeon be turned into an imcompetent idiot simply because he might be, as you fools continue to suggest, a “partisan doctor”.

LOL…thank you for the entertainment.

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 9:37 PM | Link to this

Chad:

For all of your posts here, no one could distinguish you from a long winded blowhard fool.

I would recommend that you use your blowhard for something constructive for you, such as inflating a fleet of hot air balloons.

Your posts are so long and boring, as well as factually inaccurate, that time does not allow me to describe it any more succinctly.

As a man of fewer words, I would tell you to can it.

So I will.

Can it.

Tool.

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 9:39 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Chad, your poorly disguised foul language smacks of third grade intellect.

Grow up.

Tool.

By jon

January 6, 2009 9:39 PM | Link to this

Did you Obama supporters know you were voting for Clinton II?

Monica is sitting by the phone now waiting for her call back to the White House.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 9:40 PM | Link to this

Chad,

I was reading the message boards on the StarTribune’s site, and Minnesotans are not to thrilled with Coleman’s prolonging this.

Comments ran about 10 - 1 against Coleman.

Most voiced the exact same sentiments you did above.

Greg: most analysts theorize that Rockefeller and Feinstein were just too, um, accommodating and tolerant towards Bush’s law breaking. They knew he was spying on Americans and did nothing about it.

Hence the Panetta choice, and Obama’s not rewarding those two by leaving them out of the decision process.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 6, 2009 9:40 PM | Link to this

Speaking of appointments-

As chief of staff to President Clinton, Mr. Panetta was steeped in international affairs as well as crisis management and “had to evaluate intelligence consistently on a day-to-day basis,” Mr. Obama added.-WSJ

Yeah, so he missed the US Embassy bombings, the Cole, al Qaeda………

What’s really funny, the dude is just as old as McBushie is.

Where’s the outrage?

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 9:42 PM | Link to this

Greg Mendel,

I would have to disagree with that assessment. We remember truly great people and we remember truly horrid people, but mediocre/average government officials are only remembered by Rainman and possibly Jay B. Your point was that we don’t know the Bush appointees so they would fall into neither category. Your illusion that we’ll all fondly remember the Obama appointees is blind speculation.

By AmVet

January 6, 2009 9:46 PM | Link to this

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

The two abuse-loving pack b!tches sticking their neocon snouts where they don’t belong.

After eighteen months of getting constantly humiliated, embarrassed and derided on various blogs for childishly assailing individual bloggers, one would think the lurking troll girls would learn to lick their wounds, display the tiniest modicum of dignity/ intellect and just put a sock in it.

But I will say, you flat-earth loons have been great sport and continue to provide endless comedic entertainment for many here.

Thanks for playing.

What an endless laugh you have been.

Now go lie to your kids some more, apologist losers, and tell them what a wonderful president you voted for. Twice.

Tell them the bill is coming.

01-20-09 The End of a National Disaster

By Bud Wiser

January 6, 2009 9:48 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Chad, one more before I retire for the evening:

Cut and paste becomes you.

It suits ones limited intellect so well.

Have a nice night, and be sure Mommy put the plastic sheet on your bed for you.

By Taxpayer

January 6, 2009 9:52 PM | Link to this

Keep up the good work, Chad.

By the way, I heard that Sarah Palin thought that the Surgeon General was the General in charge of preemptive surgical strikes against terrorist-containing nations.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 9:52 PM | Link to this

Corporal-

I’m pretty sure we agree on Israel’s position. But what has Egypt or any other Arab state done to contribute to Palestinians and Gazzans getting the education they need to get out of poverty?

What has a nation like Jordan who recognizes a King and a Queen who as far as I can understand have the same architecture for hemaglobin and the same blood you do rather than “Royal Blood” done to help Palestinians, Gazzans, or Middle East Peace?

Zilch over Zilch over Zilch.

In one of the most densely populated places in the world, (the Gaza strip is slightly greater than twice the size of Washington D.C.) has Egypt opened their borders to women, children and men who want nothing to do with Hamas’ battle?

Hell No. Not one inch.

Do people in Egypt have anything but a functional dictatorship? Hell No.

And most of the Arab countries have fundamentalists dictating garbage in the guise of religion to their people with religious police that you’d find absurd.

By Greg Mendel

January 6, 2009 9:55 PM | Link to this

“Your posts are so long and boring, as well as factually inaccurate, that time does not allow me to describe it any more succinctly.” — Bumpr stckr bud

Wow!

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 9:56 PM | Link to this

Come on amvet, let it out there. Your nuance might save you this time, but you’re walking a fine line.

In any event Obama has stated that he plans to double down on the recently enacted Bush socialism, so you may want to push the date forward.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 9:56 PM | Link to this

Bud—

It isn’t time that keeps you from taking issue with what I say. It’s that you’re simply too ignorant to understand any of it. I’d love to take you on in any subject for money.

You never discuss an issue because you’re too f*cking dumb to do so.

Wake me up when you are capable of discussing anything. All you post are childish rants.

And whomever is pitching the garbage about Gupta having a political point of view do you mind substantiating that?

He basically does medical segments. They’re basically to explain diseases, new techniques, new meds, or problems like HIV or H5N1 or a gamut of medical issues. I’ve never seen anything political in them.

By @@

January 6, 2009 10:00 PM | Link to this

Well I’m not surprised that AmVet, yet again, blows things way out of proportion.

just put a sock in it. AmVet

I’m sure there are other female posters here who’ll be impressed by the size of your, errr

EGO?

Needless to say, I’m not one of ‘em.

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 10:06 PM | Link to this

@@,

Do you recall one of the first names amvet descended on us with? I can’t put my finger on it, thank God, but I seem to recall it sounded like he was compensating. (ISH)

By Greg Mendel

January 6, 2009 10:08 PM | Link to this

“Your point was that we don’t know the Bush appointees so they would fall into neither category. “ — Bud

No, that was obviously not my point, since I said that my point was “appointing good people is a good idea.”

Bush appointed lousy people who, in turn, produced a lousy administration. It doesn’t matter if we remember their names. We remember the administration. We are living with its consequences.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 10:10 PM | Link to this

Midori—

Coleman’s through in the Senate forever. His office being locked to his staff the other day is a great metaphor. If he had a brain he would concede and get out of the way and that could happen but probably won’t. He has no way to win.

Right now Norm is flailing around in the context of the people here who kvetch and bioch about every last issue.

They remind me of the opening scenes of the new movie Clint Eastwood directed and starred in Grand Torino Bud Weiser so called is a great example. They don’t understand issues because reading is too hard for them, or they’re too lazy so they jerk themselves off by posting what they thing are smug comebacks that a child could post. They don’t know jack about issues and that’s why you never see them make a comment about them. They could care less about history, and they make no comments about it because they don’t know any.

Sanjay Gupta may have personal political views but from what I’ve seen him do, I couldn’t begin to guess what they were. He’s about as a-political as it comes, and I don’t care if he’s on MTV or whateverthehell as long as he’s someone qualified who does a decent job educating people medically and he’s an excellent communicator—that’s why Obama chose him for that job.

And the reaction from cretins here is about politics. Interestingly though when they are scared s** in their physician’s medical office and they get help, they don’t pitch the childish crap to their doc that he’s political.

This has become a place for some cretins who can’t discuss one issue one time and are masimally po’d because their party’s stupidity got their badasses handed to them and they want to come here to take a whizz.

Tina Fey nailed Palin and it hurt her chances. It was valuable commentary on an imbecile, and great comedy. I’m tempted to add “but also goshdarnit” but I won’t. Letterman mopped the floor up with McCain because he recognized McCain’s stupidity in pretending he had “solutions” for the financial debacle and he called it for what it was.

By @@

January 6, 2009 10:13 PM | Link to this

RW:

Well, he did sign on as HUGE. (ISH2U2)

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 10:15 PM | Link to this

Greg,

Please try not getting flustered and stay on point. I’m not Bud and just because you tried to claim your point was to appoint good people, that was made in your rebuttal to my response. I simply don’t agree that was your original point and it’s obvious from your argument that I’m right.

Of course I guess it’s possible that you believe that no President has ever nominated good people for those positions, but in a fit of BDS and OWS you’ve decided it suddenly matters and you’ve preemptively judged the record of the incoming appointees, sight unseen.

By Tom

January 6, 2009 10:25 PM | Link to this

Ahh. The right-wing wannebe a Nazi fellow-travelers are busy here this day.

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 10:30 PM | Link to this

Chad Harris,

Since you’ve chosen to ignore my 9:16 response that eviscerated your obscenity laced 9:06 accusations I guess I’ll just have to have a go at your ridiculous assertion that government offices being locked is some sort of metaphor or sign from on high.

It’s simply a fact that when a term expires we the people can lock the door until we the people put in a new temp.

By Midori

January 6, 2009 10:36 PM | Link to this

Chad - you have them pegged 200%!

Bud’s “comebacks” — if that’s what you want to call them — were mind numbing in their simplicity and childishness.

Bet he’s thumping his chest right now.

I can understand their need to politicize every facet of life, as that’s what their fearless leader did.

Chimpy had them all creaming when he did it, and they absolutely dread the thought of Obama doing it.

Everything that’s fine and hunky dory with them is completely forbidden for us.

However, we are not where they are in that department.

But they can’t comprehend that.

Have a good night all. Have an early meeting tomorrow.

By Greg Mendel

January 6, 2009 10:38 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original):

My mistake. Sorry, RW. But, I’m not sure how you can miss my original point, even after I restated it. “Appointing good people is a good idea.”

The notion that I suggested NO president ever made good appointments is yours alone. I didn’t suggest such a thing. I said that George Bush made lousy appointments, which is my opinion. Considering some resigned in disgrace and others have been severely criticized, my opinion is not entirely subjective.

My opinion on Gupta and Pannetta is subjective, but I stated reasons I approve of them. If you have a different opinion, that’s your right.

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 10:48 PM | Link to this

Dissension in Paradise?

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who. for now. chairs the Senate Rules Committee, indicated Tuesday that she thinks Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich still has the power to appoint Burris and that the Senate should respect that appointment.

Well now, that settles that.

But stay tuned.

Will Aytch back down?

He’s only the President Elect - NOT a U.S. Congresswoman!

By Greg Mendel

January 6, 2009 10:50 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original):

When I added a “pop quiz” to my original post, it was to convey that most of us don’t know, at a given time, who is Surgeon General, Secretary of Commerce or CIA director. It was not a comment on Bush appointees.

The “cumulative effect” of appointees’ performance on an administration is remembered in the legacy of that administration.

By @@

January 6, 2009 10:52 PM | Link to this

What does the Surgeon General do, exactly? The only notable accomplishment I recall is one of ‘em lent his name to warning labels on cigarette packets….packs?

By The Corporal

January 6, 2009 10:53 PM | Link to this

Excuse Me

I meant Senatoress !

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 10:55 PM | Link to this

Greg,

Your backing for why GWB made lousy appointments was because nobody can call their names without googling.

To me that means they were nondescript appointments much like just about every other appointment in history at those levels and hardly proves they were historically “lousy” or we would know their names names immediately.

It’s your argument, dude, I just showed you how bad an argument you made. We probably don’t even disagree that much on them except that I don’t assume Obama’s appointments qualify for instant greatness just because The One picked them.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 10:57 PM | Link to this

Midori—From what I can tell without leaning on my background in anatomy and medicine, what Budweiser has been thumping on is not his chest.

RW —

I wouldn’t be that sensitive. We all have other things to do and I don’t read all the garbage here. I’m not saying that any of your comments are, but there is a lot of it and I know you see it as well. So what I do is take a casual look, and if someone discusses some issue, I’ll try to discuss it if and when I have the time.

I found your comment on vote counting in Florida. I can’t change what happened there. One of the best analyses (google it) were the articles that the actual law clerks from the Supreme Court that gave Bush the Presidency in 2004 wrote in Vanity Fair and concommitantly in law reviews that spilled verbatim quotes that documented the Supremes giving the election to Bush because they politically thought it was correct for the country.

Sandra O’Conner has since written that she deeply regrets her vote.

There was a lot that was chaotic in Florida. It’s over now. Bush is over now but the destruction he and his administration caused has left this country and its people in dire straights. I’m sure you don’t agree and I’m sure I’m not going to change your mind.

I can find plenty to criticize as to both partis but this trashing Obama before he has been in office is simply ludicrous.

I could use any anlogy you want, but if I remember correctly you’re pretty good with computers unless I have you confused and it’s ludicrous to judge hdw or software before you actually give it a test ride. Same thing with an administration. And complaining about what Obama might do at this point in time or might not do is ludicrous. I don’t like some of his appointments and I’ve said so. But he has the potential to perform well given the prodigious task he has.

I don’t care if someone is p** off about something the Dems do or don’t do, as long as they offer some alternative as to how they would have done it.

We have precious little of that here. Jay Bookman gets it done in his columns whether you agree with him or not on an issue. That’s part of his training. It was part of mine as a pre-med Chem major who majored in English.

And I don’t give a rat’s badass what some schm*ck who calls himself Budweiser thinks about how I write who can’t express itself herself whatever on one issue.

I don’t agree with corporal on much that’s political, but I can discuss an issue with him without eliciting age 8 insults.

I didn’t ignore anything. I’m working on something that has priority right now and when I get a chance I’ll take a look at try to respond. If you implied I ignore something because I’m afraid to respond, you’re a lot smarter than that.

But if someone pitches the same old 8 year old stuff that conveys no evidence they know anything, I’m not responding to that.

As to “profanity laced rhetoric” I deliver proportionally facts and analysis and if I’m moved once in a while to use profanity, it is usually and consistently

A) to describe a pattern, i.e. Budweiser doesn’t know what the f*ck he’s talking about and he discusses no issues.

B)Bush has created the largest milieu of serial clusterf*cks for Obama to clean up if he can get Congress to grow a pair I’ve seen in US History.

And make no mistake about it, the Democratic Congress has been pathetic in rubberstamping Bush and helping construct that situation for the past several years.

By The Monk

January 6, 2009 11:11 PM | Link to this

Bush nominated a University of Phoenix graduate as Education Secretary.

That alone summed up his leadership qualities.

One of these days I hope you Rethugs get so angry you all collectively perform a Jim Jones.

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 11:11 PM | Link to this

Chadly,

You came across my comment on the Florida recounts and decided to accuse me of dragging out the Minnesota recounts in your typically obscene fashion????

I think not, but nice try oh wordy one. What you really did was see the words “canvassing board” and launched your diatribe.

Did I mention how rude it is for you to gravy train off the host here to write your own column? When Jay B admonishes Andy to get his own blog he should also tell you to stop by Cox personnel and try to convince then you should be a columnist.

If you want some friendly advice from me though, it’s you that needs to start your own blog. There are quite a few people that enjoy reading what Andy has to say and there’s not a sole that would miss you if you never posted again. (Even Midori, believe it or not. Ex’s know these things)

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 11:21 PM | Link to this

RW—

I’m happy with the way I expressed myself. I got the degrees I wanted and grades from the people who were there at the time—I’m not in school now and you’re not the teacher.—I got the background I wanted to read widely from the English major. I don’t need you or anyone else to grade me for a job or to graduate. Been there; done that.

I don’t have time to read every comment. Sorry. If I construed your word canvass to apply to Franken’s victory, and you were offended get over it, I’m sorry.

Florida 2000 is over.

We haven’t learned much from it.

90% of the voting machines are Diebold with a new name for facade. They can be and have been hacked by almost every grad school in computer science worth a damn in this country.

The Dems have a stupid system for conducting their primaries that’s over the top into byzantineville. It should have been changed long ago. The Republicans are worse though—they’re candidates suck and again unless they change their positions, they’re going to lose consistently. They’ll still win in contests like Chambliss’ for awhile in poorly educated places like Georgia, but that’s going to change with the demography, and some of the white bigots will die and won’t be voting in a few years.

Jay Bookman is of age. If he doesn’t like something let him speak for himself. I’m not writing a column or a blog here and that’s clear.

At least I seriously tackle the issues. Most of your thuglican collegues do not and you know that.

I have my own blog. I don’t choose to have most of these people there.

Thanks for the unsolicited advice.

Again I’m focused on issues here. I know I’m reasonably well informed, and once in a while when they are medical or legal I have experience to draw on.

Most of it isn’t understood by the Budweiser’s of the world or the Andy’s —it’s called education.

That’s it.

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 11:21 PM | Link to this

Does the AJC still get paid to advertise the UGA/Mizzou basketball from 1/3/09 atop this post?

By @@

January 6, 2009 11:22 PM | Link to this

Is it true that Arne Duncan, Obama’s pick for education secretary oversaw a district that failed to meet the Illinois state standards set under NCLB for the last five years.

And Chad? what does it mean to be masimally po’d?

By Paul

January 6, 2009 11:26 PM | Link to this

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[[What does the Surgeon General do, exactly?]]

Admonish women in 6-inch stiletto heels?

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 11:35 PM | Link to this

Paul,

It’s possible that the new surgeon general will have a warning label affixed to the brown acid at all future Woodstock commemorations.

Chad,

I didn’t bring up Florida, I merely corrected the record.

Frankly I’m kind of fond of picking apart the idiocy you espouse, but I feel doing it here on Jay’s blog is a little unseemly. Start your own blog and I promise to visit until you give up and ban me.

By @@

January 6, 2009 11:36 PM | Link to this

Admonish women in 6-inch stiletto heels?

Funny Paul!

You may not know this (or maybe you do - none of my business if), but high heels build healthy calve muscles.

Surgeon Generals should be into healthy.

G’night.

By Chad Harris

January 6, 2009 11:41 PM | Link to this

@@—It means I’ve got more than one thing going on and at times I mistype. I’m not pasting this into word to spell check. Try maximally Pizzzzzed with an two s’s off. I think you get the picture.

It’s rare that you personally couldn’t decipher a mistype and you know it.

Let me know if I can make the word maximally or pssssed off* any clearer for you. I do my best to type correctly, and sometimes it’s going to fall short. I’m not submitting a paper to a journal. If you have an issue with anything I’ve said, I’d like to see some discussion in that vein from you anytime.

RW—

We should have learned from Florida not to waste time and millions of actual dollars in litigation over elections. Short version—Republicans always want to narrow the voting pool—Dems want to enlarge it. Republicans think they’re better educated and somehow earn the rights to vote that Dems aren’t. I think some of both groups are well educated and a sizable number in this state aren’t.

In about 22 out of 22 contests where there was state and federal or both litigation, the record will show that the Republicans lost every single major court battle from Indiana to Oregon and you betcha goshdarnit—Handel lost the 3 judge panel decision on her nutty matching lists, and after losing she was so poorly informed as to the 3 Judge panel opinion that her 3 attorneys general elected not to appeal to the Eleventh Circuit she proclaimed in the AJC (look it up) that she won. She knows she didn’t win becaus the former ADA from South Georgia who runs her election division told her straight up she didn’t and they’d have to discontinue what they were doing. Saying you won in a newspaper, when it’s clear you’re forced to change what was the point of litigation is delusional.

One additional point. I used what I know legally to follow each and every stupid piece of litigation that was elicited by Republicans trying to win election contest by litigating them or claiming voter fraud. Georgia was a perfect example.

Karen Handel was so out of contact with reality that after the 3 judge panel handed her a defeat (I was there in the coutroom and watched her face. She didn’t understand most of what was going on. Her attorneys were getting their butts handed to them by Judge Birch and Judge Bill Duffey who spent way to many years at King Spaulding to fall for her stupid arguments. I took particular pleasure in watching Jack Camp waddle onto the bench after having ruled superficially for Handel, and watching his collegues rip his arguments to shreds before his eyes. He looked confused, and he was. Like Clarence Thomas, fat Jack had very little to say. He had obviously done little homework when he wrote the first opinion, and the other two members of the panel had. I only recall Camp asking one feeble question the whole morning I watched.

The issue was clear. The voting rights act required pre-clearance for Handel’s stupid matching scheme.

It went like this.

If RW was 16 and he used whatever name on his SS#, then registered to vote with RW’s middle initial, and then got a driver’s license with his entire middle name on it, or any permutation and combo of the above, Handel had her computers set up to flag you. She was poised to disqualify 50,000 voters, and Birch and Bill Duffey nailed her butt.

She still has been informed by Voting Rights at DOJ she’s not in compliance yet and they will hound her fat butt until she is.

As I’ve said before in the 11th Circuit Common Cause case, Handel is spending our money hiring Mark Cohen, and he has yet to comply with the order to proove voter fraud has ever happened in Georgia.

By RW-(the original)

January 6, 2009 11:42 PM | Link to this

@@,

There’s some other muscles that they may not build but make look dang good anyway. Two muscle groups up from calf if I’m not mistaken.

By The Corporal

January 7, 2009 12:09 AM | Link to this

The Attorney Corporal is going to hit the rack now.

All of this is starting to bore me. If an Attorny General were not even appointed I doubt if we would know the difference.

Yawn.

By The Corporal

January 7, 2009 12:11 AM | Link to this

P.S.

If we have an Attorney General, shouldn’t there be an Attorney Admiral or the squids will feel slighted.

By The Corporal

January 7, 2009 12:18 AM | Link to this

Ooops!

I meant Surgeon Admiral.

By Chad Harris

January 7, 2009 12:31 AM | Link to this

@ Corporal—

You’ll know the difference in health care within a few years. The SG is usually a bully pulpit, but it won’t be this time around.

As to the AG,/DOJ, the position that will make most difference in your life whether you realize it or not now, is OLC. It will be dramatically different than Yoo, Goldsmith, and the Bush puppet who was unconfirmed but is gone now Bradbury.

Holding people for 6 years without charges and damaging them significantly medically is part of the Bush MO. It’s on its way out. Check out the NY Times article I linked above.

By Frederick Douglass

January 7, 2009 12:35 AM | Link to this

Let’s hope Dr. Gupta can help president Obama ” spread the health”.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 7, 2009 5:56 AM | Link to this

Gee, what was I talking about?

Gaza City, Gaza —- France and Egypt announced an initiative to stop the fighting in Gaza late Tuesday, hours after Israeli mortar shells exploded near a U.N. school sheltering hundreds of people displaced by the onslaught on Hamas militants. At least 30 Palestinians were killed.

“I saw women and men —- parents —- slapping their faces in grief, screaming, some of them collapsed to the floor. They knew their children were dead,” he said. “In the morgue, most of the killed appeared to be children. In the hospital, there wasn’t enough space for the wounded.”-Urinal/Jihad

Sick.

By AmVet

January 7, 2009 6:59 AM | Link to this

ONLY !3 MORE DAYS!

By Bud Wiser

January 7, 2009 7:04 AM | Link to this

Chad, you have no idea how many people laugh at your stupidly written “facts”; its more like a Solzhenitsyn novel every time your name appears.

You have to keep it shorter, man.

And try to grow a sense of humor while you’re at it. Or, at least try to grasp the concept of humor. You try (vainly) to come off as smart. Figure it out.

The novel approach (that’s novel, as in book) bores the crap out of most everyone. Your drooling, knuckle dragging colleagues all say “well done’, or ‘give em more hell Chad’, when in fact they are too ignorant to read past the fourth or fifth word.

And your poorly disguised use of foul language impresses no one, except maybe your eleven year old girl friend. Your legal and medical experience? I bet you got it when you took your sick cat to the vet and sat next to some lawyer boring the crap out of someone else, telling them he was going to sue the vet because his dog died.

You impress no one, little boy.

You have neither the intellect or skill to compete with me on any level or subject, so I will not humiliate you any further than you are already doing to yourself; it’s pointless.

Have you own blog.

Impress yourself.

You impress no one here.

By Taxpayer

January 7, 2009 7:18 AM | Link to this

What if the Palestinians were conducting their operations while surrounded by Israeli or American children? Inquiring minds….

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 7, 2009 7:19 AM | Link to this

Actually, Bud, I find CHad Harris very impressive.

You I find rather ordinary.

But good morning anyway!

By Bud Wiser

January 7, 2009 7:47 AM | Link to this

Good morning Mrs G.

Obviously you have become enthralled by Chad’s extraordinarily pedestrian drivel; long and boring, cut and paste to the ultimate. He resorts to his coarse language when frustrated by his own intellectual shortcomings, which are more frequent these days.

I am surprised that you find him impressive; oppressive would be a bit more accurate by its stifling nature.

But to each his or her own.

I’m hurt you find me ordinary.

By Taxpayer

January 7, 2009 7:56 AM | Link to this

Bud is a really crappy brew. Chad is a refreshing change from that troll’s droll drool. Whether it be bottled or canned, Bud is just, well, a bore.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 7, 2009 8:02 AM | Link to this

Bud

Enthralled? Nope. Wrong again.

Impressed is the correct word.

Dick Cheney, Harry Truman, Dick Nixon and I are not afraid of or annerved by a creative bit o’ cussing.

By spankmonkey

January 7, 2009 8:04 AM | Link to this

I’m starting my own pool…

For every post of Amvets we’ll see at least __ irrelevant cut n pastes from Andy childishly screaming about bad liburals and quoting from Ann Coulter and the non-partisan Heritage Foundation…

Whoever is closest to the mark wins…

ew

By Bud Wiser

January 7, 2009 8:15 AM | Link to this

I expected a little more out of you Taxpayer.

At least your moniker is correct … yet I find it troubling that there are people out there that believe bigger government through paying more taxes is some kind of patriotic duty.

Oh, and a name is just a name.

I reference you to my 746pm post on this thread for a real beer.

By Taxpayer

January 7, 2009 8:22 AM | Link to this

More! MORE, you say. Bud…You need to blossom more often, I’m only now finishing my first cup of several “best parts of waking up” that ultimately arm me with the railing phalanges that make me all that I can be. Time. Give me time…and a few more joes in a cup. That’s all I need to set my humor free as taxing as it may be for some to see. That would be you, not me. Dang, I can’t seem to quit — Don’t you see. There’s a rhymer stuck in me. That’s enough fro now for I’ve gotta p. OK, so it was kinda cheesy.

By Ed

January 7, 2009 8:34 AM | Link to this

Hmmm, seems like a lack of experience or qualifications moves you to the top of the short list in the Obama administration. Reckon what he’ll pick Cynthia McKinnery for, maybe Ambassador to Israel? The Titanic was safer than we are now.

By Bud Wiser

January 7, 2009 8:36 AM | Link to this

So you need your joe in the mornin’?

So do many of your friends here;

But perhaps you’ll find in time,

A much more suitable rhyme,

At the bottom of a bottle of beer.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 7, 2009 8:36 AM | Link to this

spankmonkey- You know, the next time that you contribute something to this blog other than a whiny, diaper filling rant about another blogger, it will also be the first time.

By Taxpayer

January 7, 2009 8:52 AM | Link to this

Alcohol does very little to get the creative juices flowing. In fact, I have found that products such as Bud do little more than induce headaches and a need to relieve oneself more frequently.

By spankmonkey

January 7, 2009 8:59 AM | Link to this

Theres one (and a witty one at that)…

ew

By LonnieL

January 7, 2009 12:05 PM | Link to this

Heaven forbid the morons in this country actually have to accept the fact that the Gupta appointment as yet another progressive move that can only benefit the country. It’s about time we move the country to a place that is more reflective, inclusive and leverages the best intelligence and ideas so that we may reach our fullest potential as a nation.

In their world, ignorance rules, average is acceptable (sub-average is better), and innovation is unnecessary.