Jay Bookman

By Bud Wiser

January 5, 2009 7:09 AM | Link to this

Oh, I’d say that self preservation goes to the top of the list.

Next question.

(I like to keep it simple for the simple-minded)

By AJC/DNC Management

January 5, 2009 7:12 AM | Link to this

!!!!On Topic!!!!

Victory?

No more Hamas?

I think Hamas’s survival is the only thing in doubt right now.

By Redneck Convert

January 5, 2009 7:27 AM | Link to this

Well, if you take to wrecking your neighbor’s mailbox and he blows up your trailer every time you do it, maybe the smart thing to do is leave your neighbor’s mailbox alone.

This Hamas don’t seem very smart. They got no A-bombs and Israel does. They got no tanks and Israel does. They got no war planes and Israel does. Seems to me they should stop firing the rockets into Israel. If they want to live, that is.

It does Hamas no good to show pictures of their blowed-up trailers to the world. Just stop blowing up Israel’s mailbox and their trailers will be safe.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good day everybody.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 5, 2009 7:33 AM | Link to this

!!!!!Off Topic Comment #1!!!!

Through his Social Security-like Ponzi scheme that paid older investors with incoming funds from newer investors, Madoff, a heavy donor to Democratic candidates, also did irreparable harm to the liberal and far-left causes he loves.

At least two major left-leaning charities are closing their doors as a direct consequence of the record-breaking fraud.-AmSpec

ew

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 7:39 AM | Link to this

This is actually something that Iran is pushing in order to get oil prices back up. They need those oil revenues to fund their own programs. Other Arab countries are in the same boat so they are more than willing to sit on the sidelines and see if they benefit from this as well. How many times do people have to say it, Follow the money. The sooner we get rid of our dependence on oil, the better.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 8:12 AM | Link to this

Some additional reading on the subject from Juan Cole.

Have Bush and the Neocons Ruined it for the Israelis?

By AJC/DNC Management

January 5, 2009 8:20 AM | Link to this

!!!!On Topic!!!!

You don’t “attrit” a cancer, then await its regrowth: you root out every speck of it. In the long run, the Germans were better off for the destruction of Nazism; and the Palestinians would be, for the destruction of Hamas. If they don’t know this now, they will know it later. For those who cannot live peacefully with their neighbours must be stripped of the power to disturb them. The compulsion to live peacefully can then lead towards the habit of living peacefully.-David Warren

That’s a good answer to the question.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 5, 2009 8:32 AM | Link to this

!!!!On Topic!!!!

Here’s another good answer-

The huge challenge for the Obama administration is going to be Iran. If Israel had yielded to Hamas and refrained from using force to stop terror attacks, it would have been a victory for Iran. If Israel were now to withdraw under pressure without accomplishing the objectives of severely weakening Hamas and preventing the reconstitution of a terror-exporting state in Gaza, it would be a triumph for Iran. In either case, the Iranian regime would be emboldened, and less susceptible to the pressure from the Obama administration to stop its nuclear program.-William Kristol, Treason Times

God speed to Israel, for I doubt we will see many victories against terrorism in the coming years.

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 8:37 AM | Link to this

Where is the Church when you need it the most. Why hasn’t the Church uncovered some long-lost scrolls that provide written evidence that in the beginning there were two nations living side by side in Israel. They could do it if they really wanted to have peace in the land. Of course, those long-lost scrolls would need to be translated into James, the Kings version, and given its proper place amongst the other great “books”. It could be called The Book of Life. Notice the similarity with The Game of Life. It’s an eternal struggle to the death.

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 8:50 AM | Link to this

Not to worry. Help is on the way to the middle east. The US Army has found a clever new way to increase its volunteer ranks so that we’ll have more enlisted men to ship off overseas to fight against terrorism. Yes indeed. They are now recruiting policemen. That should also prove to be good long-term for Dunkin’ Donuts franchises and the spread of capitalism (not democracy — capitalism) around the world.

By Ray

January 5, 2009 8:54 AM | Link to this

What is Israel’s goal in all of this?…. Survival. Look at a map. Surrounded on three sides by countries that want their head on a pole…. Jordan, Syria on the East, Egypt on the west and Lebanon on the North, In some places bordering on the West Bank, the country is only 48 miles wide, dominated by high mountains that offer an enemy the right vantage point for the high ground. The sea is on the West… no place to go. All of the Arab world wants to see them go up in smoke…. millions of Muslims dedicated to their destruction. It is a wonder that they have lasted this long.
Their resolve is evidenced by their demeanor when attacked. Like hillbilly said, destroy my mailbox and your trailer gets the ax. This about the only language that Hamas understands Yesterday’s terrorist is today’s freedom fighter. Depends on what side you are on. This struggle is far from over.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 5, 2009 8:56 AM | Link to this

“Notice the similarity with The Game of Life. It�s an eternal struggle to the death.”

Can you retire to Millionaire Estates and pick up four Life Tiles for your efforts?

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 9:05 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer 8:37 AM

The problem lies neither with Israel nor a two state solution, the problem rests squarely with Hamas. Israel would accept a Palestinian state (which see, return of Gaza), but Hama will never accept Israel as Hamas’ very charter calls for the elimination of Irsael. Your suggestion that the church uncover some “long lost scrolls” is foolish, In truth, it is probably little more than a run-of-the-mill liberal casting run-of-the-mill undue aspersions against organized religion and, in particular, the religious right in the US.

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 9:17 AM | Link to this

DB,

I suppose it depends on what a Life Tile is worth these days. Some people give it more value than others.

Wyld Byll,

And your qualifications regarding the final word are what, precisely. Oh, foolish is one that would proclaim another the fool — or something like that. Further, I reject your so-called truth for that is my God given right as much as it is yours. So, THERE!

By Copyleft

January 5, 2009 9:32 AM | Link to this

Clearly, Israle must exterminate the Palestinians to the last innocent bystander in order to ensure peace and security.

Only then can they relax their vigilance. It’s necessary for their survival, you see; the enemy must be exterminated 100%, and there can be no negotiation with the subhuman cancer that infests their neighboring territories.

Now, where have I heard that argument before…?

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 9:35 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer 9:17 AM

My “qualifications regarding the final word” are listening to that which Hamas has repeated many times and taking Hamas at its word. One cannot fashion any solution so long as one side exists, largely, to exterminate the other. Under those circumstances, it is foolish to suggest that discovery of ancient documents would be some sort of magic bullet.

Also, I never wrote that you were foolish, rather I wrote that your idea was foolish. Sort along the lines of “love the sinner, but hate the sin”, but my guess is that you reject that line of reason also.

I’ll pray for you.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 9:40 AM | Link to this

Copyleft 9:32 AM

Where have you heard that argument before. Midori, Ms Godzilla, and Jay say that about conservatives all the time.

As to the gist of your post, I suspect Irael would be happy if the extermination was limited to the folks shooting rockets into Israel.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 9:44 AM | Link to this

Jay

What they are attempting to accomplish is very, very simple:

NEVER AGAIN

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 9:45 AM | Link to this

Pray for me Wyld Byll. Clearly you have nothing better to do with your life than to look down on those that don’t speak your language. Meanwhile, I’ll feel sorry for you for a while. There. That’s enough.

By Copyleft

January 5, 2009 9:48 AM | Link to this

Corporal: Yup. And, like all simple answers, it’s wrong.

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 10:03 AM | Link to this

Corporal, may I introduce Wyld Byll. Wyld Byll, Corporal. I don’t know what it is, call it a hunch, but I think you two might really hit it off. Anyway,

Corporal, I’m glad to hear that you kicked the habit. Try walking an extra mile or mix it up a little with some jogging and some walking and some mountain climbing, etc. It takes me several hours to make the round trip up and down the “mountain” (I use quotes because Georgia’s mountains are not REALLY mountians — more like tall hills) across the street. Are you sure that you are exercising long enough. Together, I’m sure we can figure out a way to get that extra oxygen coursing through those veins.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 5, 2009 10:05 AM | Link to this

!!!!On Topic!!!!

Byll: Pay copyleft no mind, if Hamas was lobbing rockets into Decatur, she would be screaming for us to nuke them.

It’s easy to whine and moan at someone else’s problem.

By Davo

January 5, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this

Any besides me tired of supporting Israels gulag state? You would think that after being nearly exterminated by the Nazis that the Zionists would gain a little compassion. Sure, we ‘gave’ them a homeland (nevermind the people who already lived there) but they just can’t seem to get along with their neighbors.

Gaza is nothing more than a huge prison, a ghetto, a reservation. This war is nothing more than a prison riot on a huge scale; the inmates are hungry and live in squalor…they have no hope. You would have to be a fool to believe that anyone would just accept this type of existance and ‘live in peace’ with their captors.

Why does America support this policy? It’s sickening.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 10:22 AM | Link to this

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces.

In those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 10:25 AM | Link to this

Wild Bill

What in the hell are you rambling about in your 9:40? I use WHAT argument all the time?

I think you’re telling a great big lie!

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 10:26 AM | Link to this

I think we need to give nukes, REALLY BIG NUKES, to every single nation, group, organization, whatever. Just give each and every one a single huge nuclear bomb with each bomb being capable of wiping out everything within a two-plus nation radius from where it is situated. Further, if a bomb is moved, it will detonate. They can even specify the size of bomb they want as long as it meets the above minimum size requirement. There. Problem solved — eventually. Let’s see how this nuclear version of russian roulette plays out. Come on. If you are going to play war, then play it right. Play to win.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 10:27 AM | Link to this

Davo @ 10:12,

Bravo.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 10:29 AM | Link to this

Davo 10:12 AM

Gaza is a wasteland because Hamas made it so. If not, was has Egypt walled it off. The Palestinians have it better in Israel than they would in any other Middle Eastern state. Ever hear the story of the greenhouses left behind by Israel’s withdrawal?

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 10:29 AM | Link to this

Bosch

You feelin’ better?

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this

Off Topic

Did everyone see Aytch getting of the Air Force aircraft at Andrews with the Presidential Seal prominently displayed on the exit door?

Those aircraft are used for Congressional and other junkets and those seals are removable depending who is being transported on the aircraft.

There is only one President at a time.

What arrogance.

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 10:45 AM | Link to this

Let’s cut to the chase, Corporal. There is indeed only one president and Obama is the man. Bush is doing nothing for the country. His own party, people like you, have even rejected him.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 5, 2009 10:57 AM | Link to this

“Midori, Ms Godzilla, and Jay say that about conservatives all the time.”

Really? I must have missed the column of Jay’s, where he called for the extermination of all conservatives.

Care to link to it, Wyld?

By Midori

January 5, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this

Like Mrs. G, I really get sick of my name being thrown out and attributed to something I have no recollection of saying.

Corporal,

are you saying that Obama affixed the seal there himself?

By david wayne osedach, san diego/ U.S.A.

January 5, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

In addition to destroying Hamas (temporarily) Israel is showing the world it’s strength. Enemies: beware.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 11:12 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

Yes, somewhat. Thanks for asking. Codeine rocks.

Friday I was convinced the end of days was upon me. But after a weekend of codeine cough syrup, albuterol, and mucinex, mixed with my antibiotic and hot tea by the gallons (I thought I’d forego the JD since I was on all the other stuff) - plus the steroid shot I got in the butt on Friday morning - things are looking up!

How are YOU feeling? You’ve had this crud too, right?

I hope you had a nice Christmas and New Years.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 11:16 AM | Link to this

Hi Midori!

I’m alive! Thanks for your get well wishes last week. I really needed them and they have seemed to work along with several strong drugs.

Reminds me of the good old days. :-)

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 11:20 AM | Link to this

DB, Midori, Ms Godzilla

The comment was, in fact, facetious and was a play on your BDS addled gibberish.

For all to see, the comment that I made (�Midori, Ms Godzilla, and Jay say that about conservatives all the time.�) was a joke.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this

But to answer Jay’s question:

Israel is showing itself on a world scale, what it’s always been, a big bully who uses little punches by Hamas as an excuse to obliterate Palestinians - all the while whining that they are the poor victim in all of this.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 11:23 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

I had not had a prescription in 10 or 12 years and the Doc gave me that codiene syrup - it kicked my butt!

I’d take my two teaspoons of orange nastiness and fifteen minutes later be drooling and snoring. Every 4 hours for 4 days.

Keep eating well and remember to get plenty of rest. Don’t rush the recovery. Take care of yourself!

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 11:24 AM | Link to this

Wild Bill

Such a gracious apology for so base a slur can’t help but be accpeted.

By Paul

January 5, 2009 11:29 AM | Link to this

“What is Israel Trying to Accomplish?”

Good question. Stated objective is weakening of Hamas leadership (read: thinning the ranks). Also lessening of rocket attacks.

My guess: Israeli ground forces will cut off major population centers and not go into them. Let the population witness Hamas attacks from their neighborhoods and draw their own conclusions. Israel clears the open areas of arms stockpiles and waits. International community calls for cease-fire. Israel asks for guarantees (Hamas rejects any compromise). UN finally commits to a force in the manner of Bosnia. Israel stays in place until UN forces arrive.

Now Israel has some sort of UN guarantee and Gaza residents see UN peacekeepers on their soil to prevent their government from continuing attacks.

Management

From this morning, other thread regarding Richardson stepping down and Clinton donations: LOL! I thought about that when I read the column. Thanks for the post.

Bosch

Wow, sorry to hear how cruddy you’ve been but you are healing, yes? I was kinda concerned your new job kept you from visiting here. Glad you’re back.

Midori

But isn’t it entertaining to hear what people said you’ve said? Pretty soon we’ll have to change your moniker to The Great Oz!

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 11:33 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

My grandad died of emphysema 20 years ago and my bed side table looks like his used to with all the prescriptions - I remember the old man puffing away on the albuterol inhaler - kind of scares me a little.

My codeine is purple flavored and it rocks my world.

I’m taking care of myself - yesterday, the other Bosch made me get up out of the chair I’d been sitting in pretty much since Friday to take a shower. Codeine, hot tea and a remote control. What more does anyone need?

By Grading Bookman

January 5, 2009 11:37 AM | Link to this

D+

His title “What is Israel trying to accomplish?” is an affront to justice, the illuminati, the intelligencia, and every other category of decent folk there be.

The Falcons lost because of the bad karma that Bookman unleashed in atlanta by all his troll coddling.

It’s unnatural. I think Bookman’s gone asiatic!

We cant allow Bookman to ruin any more falcon superbowl bids. Boycott his blog. Just dont comment or lurk or click on any ads till he stops coddling trolls.

Then watch the superbowl rings the falcons win. and peace in the middle east. all denied the world because Bookman has to have his idiotic little moments.

Troll Coddler! Falcon foiler! Hamas enabler!!!

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Yeah, I thought I just had a cold, then whammo - I thought wrong.

I don’t have a new job, just more of the same job - plus my whole family is home during the holidays, so I spend more time with them than blogging. I just spend time with you guys when I’m bored. :-)

Just kidding.

Trust me, over the holidays, I have PLENTY of opinionated family to argue with, who needs blogging.

By Midori

January 5, 2009 11:41 AM | Link to this

Paul,

That’s The Great AND Powerful Oz, thank you!! :)

Hiya Boschie - good to see your’e feeling better. Ditto Mrs. G.

I had to go that codeine route earlier this year - around November when the weather kept changing. Thank Goddess for antibiotics!!!

By Paul

January 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Link to this

Bosch your 11:22

Interesting perspective. Threats to one’s security can be assessed based upon (current) intent and the ability to effect that intent. Chavez may call for the obliteration of the US but we don’t take it seriously - he may want it but has no way to deliver. Soviet Union in the 1950s was another matter - they had the capability but their statements of intent were much more tempered.

Just Google “Hamas statements on destruction of Israel” and see what comes up on intent. That leaves capability. So far, it’s lacking. But the attacks are also symbolic - yesterday, commando-type raids, today, rocket attacks, tomorrow… what? Given they may not have, or be able to develop, weapons systems capable of attaining their goal, but some allies do, or given that they may desire to precipitate an armed alliance with other, far more (conventionally) powerful nations, I suppose the question is, is Hamas really a threat?

Israel withdrew from Gaza. I don’t think that’s an indicator of an intent to “obliterate” Palestinians. In fact, I’m not aware of Israeli government statements regarding their desire for the Palestinians on a par with Hamas statements regarding their desire for Israel.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 11:47 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 11:22 AM

Remarkably, and apparently without any tinge of conscious, you write, “Israel is showing itself on a world scale, what it�s always been, a big bully who uses little punches by Hamas as an excuse to obliterate Palestinians - all the while whining that they are the poor victim in all of this.”

How do you suppose you’d feel if someone’s “little punch” landed daily barrages of qassam rockets into either your or one of your loved one’s neighborhoods?

By Paul

January 5, 2009 11:48 AM | Link to this

Midori

Gee, and here I thought it was “The Great and Wonderful Oz.”

By AJC/DNC Management

January 5, 2009 11:49 AM | Link to this

!!!!Response To Another Blogger!!!!

By Paul January 5, 2009 11:29 AM Management- From this morning, other thread regarding Richardson stepping down and Clinton donations: LOL! I thought about that when I read the column. Thanks for the post.

What surprised me the most, Richardson is practically Snow White compared to the things we know about some of these other democrats.

By the way, thanks alot, even though I already have an older model of the #2 coffee maker on your comparison list, I had to go and pop $265 for the Moccamaster.

It better be good (-:

By AJC/DNC Management

January 5, 2009 11:58 AM | Link to this

!!!!Second Off Topic Post graciously afforded to thee Management, who is now out of bullets!!!!

Fart tax-

�The tax for dairy cows could be $175 per cow, and $87.50 per head of beef cattle. The tax on hogs would upwards of $20 per hog,� the release said. �Any operation with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs would have to obtain permits.�-BE&I

This is not hysteria?

Elephants fart too, y’all, in a much more “catastrophic” way, will we be hitting them with an IRS lien?

geez

By roy

January 5, 2009 11:59 AM | Link to this

Lefties like Bookman sit by and say nothing as Hamas lobs rockets daily into Israel. The minute Israel fights back those same lefties can’t wait to get to a microphone or typewriter to start their whining. What a bunch of hypocrites.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 11:59 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 11:43,

1st paragraph - I would like to see raisins completely eradicated from the planet Earth, but it ain’t gonna happen, and not too many people take me seriously when I go on my anti-raisin rants, because ya’ know why? I ain’t got that much power.

Is Hamas really a threat? No, by themselves, but they are certainly a tool by Israelis and the other Arab countries that don’t like them too well.

I certainly do not buy this whole argument of helping Israel unconditionally just because the Bible says so.

By Paul

January 5, 2009 11:59 AM | Link to this

Management

I had two (or was it three?) from the runner-up list. I’d read another review where the skeptics were asked to compare and many could tell a difference. A lot of difference? Subjective. My brother in law, he of lotsa sugar and milk, can’t tell much. But I drink it black.

The Richardson thing is a shame. Just what do people expect? We have a system where people contribute big bucks but expect nothing in return (sarc). Something favorable happens and it’s evidence of a crime? What was Blago’s crime - he didn’t keep it ‘unobvious’ enough?

Personally, I’da liked to have heard Pres-elect Obama say “Gov Richardson told me he’d done nothing illegal or unethical. I believe him and will fight for his confirmation.

Then again, that might’ve struck too many as too similar to Pres Bush…

By getalife

January 5, 2009 12:03 PM | Link to this

Codeine syrup? HA!

Keep your health kids.

Looks like Israel is surrounding the militants and taking them out.

Don’t start none and there will not be none.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 12:06 PM | Link to this

Wild Byl,

If we are going to stick with that scenario of rockets in my back yard and how would I feel - I’m assuming my back yard would be Israel

That would be like my back yard neighbor shooting pellet guns at my house, they might do a little damage, sure, then I retaliate by lobbing a 10-ton bomb back at them. AND, let’s not forget that these neighbors shot their pellet guns because I had previously burned down their home, forced them to live in squallor and kept food from being delivered to them so they were starving.

Relativity dude.

By Paul

January 5, 2009 12:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch 11:59

Now, project a capabilities scenario twenty years out with the condition that Hamas is unmolested through that time. Then, if the threat capability changes, ask, what could have been done twenty years ago to keep it from getting to this?

Off topic: saw Gran Torino this weekend. Clint Eastwood directed and produced. ‘Nuff said.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 12:12 PM | Link to this

Off Topic

Private schools are inherently better than public schools if for no other reason you don’t have to put up with government indoctrination.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/05/obama.children.school/index.html

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 12:16 PM | Link to this

Bosch 12:06 PM

“Pellet guns” to rockets what a ridiculous and foolish comparison. The Hamas rockets have killed people. No civilized government can accept that and its appalling that so called civilized people would try to rationalize killing and terrorism.

Palestinians have it no better in other Middle East countries. My bet is if the Gaza populace adopted a “go along to get along” stance things would be pretty good for them just as they are for many Palestinians in the general Israel populace.

Finally, this is all about Hamas blood oath to wipe Israel off the map. Get rid of that and things will turn around pretty quickly.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this

Oh, and before all the wingnuts start screaming, I’m not saying that Israel did all those things to Palestinians.

I was using those examples to show severity.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 12:20 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Why not instead of twenty years down the road, we ask NOW - WHY it has come to this?

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 12:22 PM | Link to this

corporal

i wonder which is better public school government indoctrination or private school indoctrination?

can’t speak from experience on the public schools, but it took me a while to get the courage up to wear black patent leather shoes and pearls - catholics can indoctrinate with the best of them!

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this

On to the Franken election theft. A link to a great story below. This doesn’t even cover the statistically impossible recount shenanigans.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html

By TW

January 5, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this

Off Topic Private schools are inherently better than public schools if for no other reason you don�t have to put up with government indoctrination.

Private schools get to pick their team.

Scientific method much?

Geez…

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 12:24 PM | Link to this

Wild Byl,

As I said earlier, Hamas can scream all they want to wipe Israel off the map, they can’t do it.

Just because they scream it, doesn’t mean it is going to happen.

And if you lived in the same conditions being imposed upon them you’d be hurling rockets too.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 12:25 PM | Link to this

In police work, when an armed robber pulls out a handgun, you counter with a shotgun blast if at all possible - before he even has the chance to shoot!

The fight should not be fair!

That’s all Israel is doing with Hamas.

By RW-(the original)

January 5, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

How about a little evidence to back your claim that Israel blocks food aid to the Palestinian people?

Paul,

The Wizard was supposedly wonderful, but was called the Great and Powerful Oz. Keep in mind he was a phony though.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 12:28 PM | Link to this

Franken election theft -

BWA!

Life sucks doesn’t it Byll?

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 12:31 PM | Link to this

RW,

Calm down, read my 12:18. I was using that as an example of severity. Didn’t mean it that way.

Did you have a nice Christmas?

By Paul

January 5, 2009 12:31 PM | Link to this

Bosch 12:20

Fair enough. I’ll hazard a guess that both sides will be able to give plenty examples of injustice and overreaction by the other side.

So given what is and not keeping the centuries-old animosities alive (which I’m not sure is possible with some of the players - they live to keep old hatreds alive) then the question is, what now?

I’ll submit that as long as one party states as an inviolate objective the obliteration of the other that peace, or even nonviolent coexistence, is not possible.

Corporal

Regardless of indoctrination or espousal of beliefs, I rather think that all kids who are in whatever education system should be required to demonstrate proficiency in core subjects. Absent such data I find it difficult to accept one as better at education than another.

Mrs Godzilla

[[it took me a while to get the courage up to wear black patent leather shoes and pearls ]]

Do we have another priest scandal in the making? Or nun scandal?

Sorry… too good to leave alone…

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 5, 2009 12:35 PM | Link to this

Bosch 12:24 PM

Bosh, Bosch, Bosch, you poor naive, useful tool for teerorism.

You write, “As I said earlier, Hamas can scream all they want to wipe Israel off the map, they can�t do it.” When illegal actions (such as rocket barrages) do not have the potential to overthrow a given goverment but are able to kill individual citizens, a goernment must react as its primary purpose is to protect each of those who comprise its citizenry.

Further, you estimate that, “… if you lived in the same conditions being imposed upon them you�d be hurling rockets too.” I certainly hope that i wouldn’t do things that could randomly kill children and other innocents.

By Bosch

January 5, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 12:31,

Well, I guess I can never live in peace while their are still raisins.

Seriously, can we answer those questions without using the Bible, or God?

That’s where it gets sticky.

Later.

By RW-(the original)

January 5, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Why is it that when you don’t want to answer a question you begin your dodge with an admonishment for the questioner to calm down? One doesn’t need be the least unsettled to ask a question. In any case your 12:18 wasn’t posted when I wrote the 12:28 and the ending of your 12:24 response to Wyld Byll seems to belie your 12:18. Who is imposing these conditions on the Palestinians and why is the proper response to randomly fire rockets into Israeli neighborhoods?

By Paul

January 5, 2009 12:46 PM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla

Roland Burris on his appointment to the Senate:

“”We are hoping and praying that they will not be able to deny what the Lord has ordained,” Burris said. “I am not hesitating. I am now the junior Senator from the state of Illinois. Some people may want to question that and that is their prerogative.” ‘

Toldja, The Left has now adopted the Religious Right (Twilight Zone theme song plays).

And if you doubt that, the Left is even adopting the neocon legislative style - Spkr Pelosi is reversing Gingrich’s Fairness Rules and is out-DeLaying DeLay

Link: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules

I’ll bet Pres-elect Obama is thrilled. Like I’ve said, I think he’ll have more trouble with elements of his own Party than he will with Republicans.

oh yeah,,, off topic notice -

By RW-(the original)

January 5, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Did he say that it was Lord Blago that ordained him?

By Paul

January 5, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this

Bosch 12:37

Near as I can recollect, neither you nor I cited God or the Bible once.

Neither do I recollect Israeli government officials from citing Old Testament prophets.

But if you want to eliminate mention of Allah (God) from Hamas’s divine mission, there might be an inherent problem.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this

If one has the funds (The Obamans for example) they can voluntarily pick their private secular or private religious school of their choice.

If one does not have the funds, one is forced to attend public/government schools where politically correct indocrination is also forced.

A BIG difference ………….

By SaveOurRepublic

January 5, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this

Davo @ 10:12 AM - Well said! Israel was founded by the Globalist Elite (ie - Rothschild funding of the Knesset Building, etc.) as a base for the Zionist agenda. Sadly, many well meaning(yet deceived) Christians are hoodwinked (by shysters like Hagee) into supporting Zionism via Biblical distortion/apostasy.

Israel’s key goal appears to be spreading itself (geographically, economically & influence wise) via various methods. Unfortunately, far too many U.S. Congressmen & Presidents are beholden to AIPAC & the Zionist agenda. Instead of putting valid American interests as first, second & third priorities, many of the Zionist pawns on “Crapitol sHill” have bowed to AIPAC pressure and put Israeli interests above American ones!

By Observer

January 5, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this

Palestinians claim to want only one thing - their own homeland. What many fail to remember is that Israel was willing to concede a Palestinian state but Arrafat turned it down.

Now, you have Hamas as the elected power base and what is their stated objective? Not to obtain a seperate Palestinian state but rather, TO DESTROY ISRAEL.

If any of you were the leaders of Israel, how would you respond to such a threat when you know it is made by an entity being supported by those with the capability to carry it out (Iran, et al)?

Israel has repeatedly demonstrated its willingness to peacefully coexist with PEACEFUL Palestinians but when Hamas subjects them to daily rocket attacks what are they to do? As long as you acknowledge that self-preservation is the first human instinct, the answer is simple - they fight back!

By @@

January 5, 2009 12:54 PM | Link to this

What is Israel trying to accomplish?

To influence the Iraeli elections? There’s been a call to postpone while the conflict rages. No-nonsense Net-a-Yahoo is favored in the polls. Even Bush wasn’t wanting to see Bebe appear on the horizon.

Send a message to other, more threatening militant factions? Oddly enough, although Hezbollah threatened to join the conflict, they have yet to do so. Could have launched a two front war from the north but haven’t as yet. Arms assistance maybe but no warm bodies.

Hamas and Hezbollah are Iranian proxies. Name one Arab country who would welcome Iran as a dominant player in the ME.

Heck! I’ve questioned whether Syria is even a fan anymore.

Cuts in oil production, tho eminent, may do more harm than good to OPEC countries. They’re dealing with their own economic decline. Can they afford to cut their main source of income? Will countries suffering economic woes be able to increase their demand?

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this

P.S.

I thought liberals believed in choice ?

By Observer

January 5, 2009 12:57 PM | Link to this

Palestinians claim to want only one thing - their own homeland. What many fail to remember is that Israel was willing to concede a Palestinian state but Arrafat turned it down.

Now, you have Hamas as the elected power base and what is their stated objective? Not to obtain a seperate Palestinian state but rather, TO DESTROY ISRAEL.

If any of you were the leaders of Israel, how would you respond to such a threat when you know it is made by an entity being supported by those with the capability to carry it out (Iran, et al)?

Israel has repeatedly demonstrated its willingness to peacefully coexist with PEACEFUL Palestinians but when Hamas subjects them to daily rocket attacks what are they to do? As long as you acknowledge that self-preservation is the first human instinct, the answer is simple - they fight back!

By Observer

January 5, 2009 1:00 PM | Link to this

Palestinians claim to want only one thing - their own homeland. What many fail to remember is that Israel was willing to concede a Palestinian state but Arrafat turned it down.

Now, you have Hamas as the elected power base and what is their stated objective? Not to obtain a seperate Palestinian state but rather, TO DESTROY ISRAEL.

If any of you were the leaders of Israel, how would you respond to such a threat when you know it is made by an entity being supported by those with the capability to carry it out (Iran, et al)?

Israel has repeatedly demonstrated its willingness to peacefully coexist with PEACEFUL Palestinians but when Hamas subjects them to daily rocket attacks what are they to do? As long as you acknowledge that self-preservation is the first human instinct, the answer is simple - they fight back!

By mm

January 5, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

Please tell me what indocrination public schools are forcing on the students?

By TW

January 5, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

politically correct indocrination is also forced

Straight from the pages of O’Reilly’s War on Christmas, no doubt.

Newsflash - your ideology is a loser. (see ‘w’ presidency 2001-09)

One behalf of the public school liberals, I apologize for whatever God awful thing happened to you when you were in school. Now, get over it - he priests have.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this

Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Hamas, Hezbollah and every other Islamic country or terrorist organization want Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

They need to do whatever it takes for their survival.

NEVER AGAIN

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this

corporal

tell any kid in any school anywhere that the indoctrination is not forced… of course being politically correct is so verrrrry evil. heaven forbid we try to behave correctly.

however i have seen this taken to extremes as i have also seen religious corrrectness taken to extremes.

neither is a good thing.

wild bill

as far as the WSJ OPINION piece on MN recount….they are entitled to their opnion. I suppose if there were any real investigative journalists at the journal they would be up there in MN digging into it, instead a conservative paper’s opinion page posts it’s opinion.

Now if you want to dig into it, MN is just above Wisconsin and right next to Lake Superior. Dress warm.

You can contact the MN supreme court at: Minnesota State Capitol, 75 Constitution Ave, St. Paul, MN 55155-1605

By Expected

January 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Link to this

Funny how the UN, Europe, and others don’t say a thing about the Hamas rockets, but condemn Israel as some as they respond.

Israel — release the hounds!!!!

By GayGrayGeek

January 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Link to this

mm @ 1:02 - The Wingnuts like the Private are mad that their own brand of Know-Nothing-Ness is NOT being pushed in the schools. Therefore, in the Upside-Down, “Left Is Right and Right Is Wrong” World that the Wingnuts live in, it’s “indoctrination” if THEIR “indoctrination” is NOT taught.

By Observer

January 5, 2009 1:09 PM | Link to this

Sorry for the multiple posts. I only hit the button once.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 1:17 PM | Link to this

Public Schools should stick to the basics (which is where many of them have so miserably failed) and leave indoctrination of any kind to voluntarily attended private schools, church or home.

Sadly, that is not the case starting with revisionist history just to name one.

Many public-school children seem to know only two dates—1492 and 4th of July; and as a rule they don’t know what happened on either occasion. Mark Twain

By Midori

January 5, 2009 1:23 PM | Link to this

Sidwell has a long and distinguished tradition of educating presidential offspring — from Chelsea Clinton to Tricia Nixon.

Why shouldn’t the Obama childen attend as well?

Because Corporal has a problem with it?

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 1:23 PM | Link to this

expexted

google:

UN condemns rocket attacks….

one must not EXPECT information to be spoon fed, one must read.

By Midori

January 5, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this

Will Bill

looks like the MN Supreme Court is determined to help Franken steal the election

Oh Dear!!!!

By mm

January 5, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

Please don’t use rhetoric and quotes from dead people.

Give at least one example.

By GimmeYoDolla

January 5, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this

So… Israel is completely innocent in all of this?

By Slick

January 5, 2009 1:32 PM | Link to this

I think that DAVO and Bosch have it right about what Israel is trying to accomplish with their brutal and senseless attack on the people in Gaza. The big bully demonstrating its power while Bush is still president since they know he will support any action they take, and will veto any Secutity Council resolution that is critical of their devistating attack on civilians.

I think the current ratio is 100 Palestinians killed for 1 Israeli.

By DB, Gwinnettian

January 5, 2009 1:55 PM | Link to this

“What many fail to remember is that Israel was willing to concede a Palestinian state but Arrafat turned it down.”

Oy vey.

I don’t gotta have Zbignew B. go medieval on yo’ @ss, do I?

By Chad Harris

January 5, 2009 2:03 PM | Link to this

All Hamas Dead.

All Hezbollah Dead.

Elimination of the joke government with the joke Abass at the head—a puppet government that has no respect or power whatsoever.

A serious blow to Syria and Iran and destruction of their weapons and channels, tunnels, chunnels and boats used to smuggle them and a serious financial blos to both of them as well.

Destruction of the weapons channels from Russia and the duplicitious French sources.

Forcing the Arab slackers who have never taken responsibility for peace in the Middle East to get off the badasses and participate and sacrifice.

Shuttind down of the stupid Americans who kvetch about Israel squeezing Hamas and innocent civilians when Hamass brought it on themselves as did Hezbollah, Iran and Syria.

Forcing the US to participate in meaningful stability in the middle East instead of the Condi Rice clusterfck and Bush Cheney Clusterfck that has contributed heavily to destabilizing it.

Congrats to Senator Al Franken who won the Supreme Court ruling against Nebish and loser Norm Coleman who is under investigation by DOJ for bribes his wife took. Hopefully soon Coleman will be in prison replaced now by Franken.

If there is any comedy here, the joke is on all the wingnuts who scoffed at Franken’s undergo and successful candidacy.

Coleman will spend a lot of money while under investigation fending off his investigation and fighting a losing battle in Court against Franken.

Franken will be seated.

Burris will be seated.

And soon there will be 59-41 so we can start shovling the crap out of government and get something done. It’s been 8 years that has seemed like 80 but with the Rethuglicans thinking Jindall Palin is the answer they will never live to see another Republican in the White House or a Republican majority in the Senate.

By SaveOurRepublic

January 5, 2009 2:32 PM | Link to this

DB, Gwinnettian @ 13:55 - Ah yes, Zbigniew Brzezinski of the Globalist Elite (“B level”). The same Brzezinski who co-founded (with David Rockefeller) the Trilateral Commission. The same Brzezinski who openly admitted U.S. funding of the Mujaheddin (pre Al Qaeda). He is the Democrat’s answer to (fellow Globalist) Henry Kissinger.

By CommunistAJC

January 5, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

Bookman, What’s a neocons neocon? Is that like me calling you a hacks hack? You posed the question about Israels goals. Let’s see…hmmm….gee…I guess it would be to WIPE HAMAS OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. Is that a good answer Jay? I’d take Max Boots “naive” enthusiasm, as you so “humbly” put it, over your daily pessimistic rhetoric and day.

By Chad Harris

January 5, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this

Gimmeyadolla—

Here’s the Gimmeyadolla Georgia 46th in SAT scoring highest evah question for ya:

When the several KKatusha rockers were fired into the room where you’re keyboarding and mousing from this week did you

a) Put them in the garbage disposal b) Put them on your front porch ala Palinbilly c) Turn them vertically as phallic/symbols or contemporary art sculptures d) Take them in your arms, rock ‘em and sing ‘em a lullaby. e) Pretend you wee at a Braves game, grab your glove, and try to catch them on a fly? f) All of the above

By Chad Harris

January 5, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this

Correction Katyusha rockets used by Hamas and Hezbollah supplied by Syrians, Iranians and Russians.

Katyusha multiple rocket launchers (Russian: Катюша) are a type of rocket artillery originally built and fielded by the Soviet Union in the Second World War. Compared to other types of artillery, such multiple rocket launchers are able to deliver a devastating amount of explosives to an area target more quickly but with lower accuracy and requiring a longer time to reload. These vehicles are fragile compared to conventional artillery guns, but relatively inexpensive and easy to produce.

By Chad Harris

January 5, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

Kilgore—

This was your cerebral definition of Kilgore’s geopolitical analysis correct?

Are you capable of any thoughts on the issue which was Israel’s war on Hamas or just petty 3rd grade invective slinging. You learned when Mommy was still housebreaking you to sling invectives. But you were supposed to get educated after that. Is this your display of what didn’t happen that was supposed to after 3rd grade?

Put your nose on the mouse. Israel vs. Hamas. Israel vs. Hamas. Israel vs. Hamas.

Kilgore’s thoughts on an issue or are there any?

By GS

January 5, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

Slick: Since the second Intifada (Palestinian uprising) began 8 years ago, the ratio of those killed is 5 Palestinians to 1 Israeli. This ratio is only so high because most of the hundreds of Hamas rockets launched every year are landing in streets and fields. If Hamas had any sort of sophisticated weapons there would be tens of thousands of Israelis killed.

What’s missing from this discussion is that, according to the UN and AP, more than 90% of those killed in the past 10 days are Hamas militants/terrorists.

My two cents: I’d like to see Hamas wiped out, the Palestinian Authority take control of Gaza, and the Palestinians given statehood.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

Obama wants the choice of where to send his kids for school but not anyone else.

Liberalism is an effort of the emotion and heart.

Conservatism is an effort of the intellect and mind.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 3:22 PM | Link to this

OH NO!

Obama does not want you to earn enough to send your kids to the school of your choice. I read it - really!

He said only his kids would ever be allowed to go to private school and that all of us who did have to turn in our diplomas!

Liberalism requires emotion and heart. Conservatism has none.

Liberalism requires intellect. Conservatism uses what little Limbaugh lets them.

By Chad Harris

January 5, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this

Corporal—

You can send any kids you contemplate making to Sidwell Friends. Nothing on earth is stopping you.

All it takes is $29,000 and $3000 extras per kids.

Or if any of your friends here who appear not to have completed the eight grade want some education:

Application for Enrollment to Sidwell Friends for Corporal

and in case my link above failed:

Application for Corporal to Sidwell Friends http://www.sidwell.edu/admissions/forms.asp

By Chad Harris

January 5, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this

I’ll write you a rec Corporal and the Secret Service in your resume will probably help. Some of the kids have Secret Service protection. Biden’s grandchildren do now, and the Obamas.

Maybe you can get Secret Service protection too.

I think what you want is to spread the wealth. You want the taxpayers to fund every Christian School in Alpharetta is that what you’re driving at?

Congrats to new CIA Director Nominee Leon Panetta. After hiding Monica Lewinsky in the library, I guess he’s ready for the bigtime—right Corporal?

By Midori

January 5, 2009 3:43 PM | Link to this

LOL, Chad - you’re getting pretty good with the link thingy :)

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 3:46 PM | Link to this

From your own trough - Argue with them!!!

Shame on us for not realizing that there are parents in this country who … today support vouchers not because they are enamored with private schools but because they want a choice for their children. They want alternatives, and seeing none in our rigid system, they are willing and some even desperate to look elsewhere. Senator John Kerry

Democrats who had made careers as champions of the poor opposed the [school choice] plan, arguing that a solution that did not save every child was unacceptable. The Democrats got the worst of the exchange. They seemed more interested in preserving the public school monopoly than in saving at least some children�s lives [through vouchers]. Brent Staples - New York Times

I believe that if Martin Luther King and A.D. King were here they would say �Do what�s best for the children.� It [the idea for school vouchers] may sound radical, but so were they.” And, “Is it moral to tax families, compel their children�s attendance at schools, and then give no choice between teaching methods, religious or secular education and other matters? Alveda King

Throughout my career, I have been an opponent of school voucher programs… . However, after much soul-searching, I have reluctantly concluded that a limited school voucher program is now essential for the poorest Americans attending the worst public schools… . Today, to force children into inadequate schools is to deny them any chance of success. To do so simply on the basis of their parent�s income is a sin. Arthur Levine - President, Columbia Univesity Teacher’s College

By Marc

January 5, 2009 3:59 PM | Link to this

Why does this get so much media attention? There are 8 actual wars going on that can’t even get print, but every time a tank cranks up in Israel we get barraged by articles and an oil spike.

Who cares? Israel isn’t at all important to me as an American. I care about as much as Israel as I do about Burkina Faso which is NONE.

By Chad Harris

January 5, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

Finally I can link. I thought I tried this the first day but what threw *me was the example because the www.ajc.com in parentheses didn’t seem to match with any url.

Obama’s Impressive New OLC Chief Nominee](http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/)

Whoever is confirmed as Chief at OLC is a huge deal and it is at the nexus of a ton of important issues that will ahve to be decided in the next few years.

If you haven’t been reading Glenn Greenwald @ Salon, you’ve been missing great analysis from a former US Attorney and Civil Rights litigator, particularly when he goes after the media for not doing its job and he goes after conservative and liberal media.

This is a good discussion of one of the crucial and most important appointments a President can make. That would be OLC Chief who in many ways is more important than the attorney general when it comes to controversial decisions in the war on terror.

The Office of Legal Counsel’s job is to give guidance about whether certain government policies or presidential prerogatives are legal. But it’s not meant to be an advocate for the president himself — that’s the White House counsel’s responsibility.

Steven Bradbury has been serving as never confirmed Chief of OLC for Bush illegally.

Bradbury clerked for the Silent One too afraid to ask questions in 19 years of oral argument Clarence Thomas.

Throughout 2006, Bradbury argued forcefully that the Supreme Court’s rejection of the administration’s military tribunals in terrorism cases was incorrectly decided. He argued that Geneva Conventions language barring “humiliating and degrading treatment” was hopelessly vague, and subject to “uncertain and unpredictable application.” He was a leading advocate of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which revoked habeas corpus for terrorism detainees. He authored an opinion immunizing ex-White House counsel Harriet Miers from testifying in the U.S. attorneys investigation. And, most infamously, he apparently authored secret memoranda reauthorizing torture techniques, including waterboarding.

By WPWW

January 5, 2009 4:05 PM | Link to this

Marc, it gets MSM coverage because they (like many politicians) are controlled by the ZOG.

By GS

January 5, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

Good point Marc. Why don’t we hear about Darfur? In 5 years 500,000 people have been killed in Darfur. By contrast, in the last 8 years fewer than 5,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza conlficts.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Clinton and schools:

It appears that some school officials, teachers, and parents have assumed that religious expression of any type is either inappropriate or forbidden altogether in public schools; however, nothing in the First Amendment converts our public schools into religion-free zones. Bill Clinton

By TEX

January 5, 2009 4:13 PM | Link to this

If someone wants to learn more about the hamas movement and ideology, just google ‘hajj amin al husseini’ and learn more about this genocidal nazi lapdog.

hamas and fatah are the same movements, with shills like Bookman pretending that they are something other than that.

By Midori

January 5, 2009 4:15 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!

By williebkind

January 5, 2009 4:18 PM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla wants us to learn from a nuetral view point from her link undoubtedly given to her by her wacho liberal organization: “If it is true that Americans are greeting Israeli talking points with more criticism this time, is it because we have been intensively exposed for the past 8 years to precisely this sort of mental manipulation by Bush-Cheney and their stable of Neoconservatives?” Now who is she going to blame the next four years? I am glad Al Gore invented the internet and gave her access to it. She can enlightened the world to China like socialism. Mrs G should learn the Israeli problem is a religious problem therefore you should not get involved in it. Remember the constitution! “Progressive liberals only compromise if you give up your values”, quote williebkind. NO internet just common sense! If liberals would get off Israel’s back there would be no Hamas! Civilians! Where does the soldiers come from liberals? They appear by fiat right? We bombed North Vietnam and they screamed for talking tables….so we talked and they returned to their ways. When we as a nation take the necessary steps liberals start crying do not kill civilians. Thank God a conservative was in charge of the Allied Armies are would use English as a lesser language. We lost because screaming progressive liberals did the same to our troops as they are doing to Israel’s soldiers. Redneck Convert has it about right! Why are you not discussing the Hamas Mrs G? Do you have an internet connection that can reach that or does it scare you to talke about radical muslims killing innocent women and children? I guess it is ok to kill innocent lives according to the liberal progressives. The maxim “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” applies to liberals when they can associate anything to conservatives. Has anyone shot a rocket in your backyard Mrs. G? I can only guess the DNC would use it against the Conservatives. Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it.

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

TEX

Excellent !

And don’t forget this headline from last week:

Hamas members of the Palestinian Legislative Council in Gaza have approved a new bill “to implement Koranic punishments,” including hand amputation, crucifixion, corporal punishment and execution.

Ah, the wonderful world of Islam.

By SaveOurRepublic

January 5, 2009 4:24 PM | Link to this

Chad Harris @ 16:04 - Good analogy to Bradbury’s support of the Neocon’s Machiavellian, Orwellian Military Commissions Act. Along with the so-called “Patriot” & John Warner Defense Authorization Acts, this legislation one of the most un-Constitutional passed by the Neocons!

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 4:32 PM | Link to this

Willie

Try a paragraph now and then would ya’ dude.

By Taxpayer

January 5, 2009 4:35 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

This is just second-hand information but I’ve heard that those harsh Koranic punishments, as you put it, are very effective at reducing the crimes that they target. Surely you agree that cutting off a hand is a good deterrent and much more cost effective than paying to put someone in jail. Also, I know you are not against execution so what’s the beef with that one. Are you concerned that there would no longer be a need for civilians to carry guns to “protect” themselves.

By williebkind

January 5, 2009 4:42 PM | Link to this

Sorry Mrs. G. I got so excited I did not proof read my blog.

I keep forgetting only the educated people blog her on AJC. I guess I am a misfit.

I blame public shools. I could have gone to college only if I knew how to make paragraphs, indent, spell, use are instead of is, and had a conservative teacher.

Thanks Mrs G. if you can not beat the message lambast the messenger!

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

Iran’s misogynist state imposes gender inequality with a series of laws that go so far as to legalize the rape and murder of women. There are widespread arrests, torture, flogging, and stoning of women. In his November 2008 report, U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon expressed concern about “cases of stoning and public execution.

For flirting

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 5, 2009 4:58 PM | Link to this

willie

you misunderstand….

i think your work would be easier to read if you’d just break it up a bit.

lambaste? if you think that was a lambaste you really never did get an education.

(can be spelled with or without e)

By Tom

January 5, 2009 4:58 PM | Link to this

Israel is ALWAYS “accomplishing” something. Knowing that stupid Uncle Sam will pick up the tab and the mess.

Tho Sam is a bit overtaxed right now - building cemetaries in Iraq for those to whom we brought liberty and democracy.

By sunshine and thunder

January 5, 2009 5:09 PM | Link to this

JAY

So Boot is a “naive’ schoolboy”. Why are you reading and quoting him then?

As for Israel. They need to stop doing what Boot has noted. They need to stop being polite. They should have learned from watching Bush fight the terrorists. Being humanitarian and listening to hand wringing weenies doesn’t go far in a war.

G-d save us if Obama and the dems have to fight another war.

Fighting a war with that crew would be like going to a gun fight with a hand full of rocks.

By Tear O'Rist

January 5, 2009 5:15 PM | Link to this

What’s absolutely amazing is the Evangelical support for the Jews (who are all going to hell because they don’t accept Jesus as their personal Lord and savior….see, I know many Evangels that talk like this behind the Jews backs). It kinda reminds me of Catholicisms pro-Nazi stance during WWII. WTF?! Would Jesus support the annhilation of the Palestinian people? And don’t direct me to “Gods” edict for Moses’ followers to go into the Land of Canaan and kill every man, woman, and child. It’s a complete myth created by very bad men.

By WPWW

January 5, 2009 5:15 PM | Link to this

Tom, that’s because Uncle Sam is largely ZOG & under the thumb of Tel Aviv!

By The Corporal

January 5, 2009 5:26 PM | Link to this

Evangelicals follow the teachings of Jesus.

1) When talking to the religious rulers of his day He said:

Unless you believe in Me you are dead in your sins.

2) Evangelicals support Israel because the Bible says:

Blessed are those who bless you and cursed are those who curse you ……… and because Jesus (the Messiah) will one day return……

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced ………. Zech. 12:10

By SaveOurRepublic

January 5, 2009 5:35 PM | Link to this

Tear O’Rist @ 17:15 - While I’ll have to disagree on your assertion that the Bible is a “myth’, I’ll certainly agree that far too many well meaning Christians have been duped into the Zionist camp. For more on the Biblically fallacy of Zionism…

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Zionism/zionism.htm

By caz1158

January 5, 2009 5:48 PM | Link to this

Remarkable,I’ve read many a blog. And I’m amazed at how many people have such a disdain for Israel in this latest skirmish. If Hamas would just cease the rocket attacks Isarel would cease their attacks as well,simple. But for those who keep putting up this stale argument about innocent women & children being killed,GIVE IT A BREAK!!!!! These people (palestine) support these thugs (Hamas),and wonder why Israel retaliates to rocket attacks. If the same were happening here in the U.S., I’m sure the statements would be different. But as always its Bush’s fault right!!(I mean Left!!!)

By Pogo

January 5, 2009 6:24 PM | Link to this

Jay, exactly why are you so vexed about what Israel’s goal is? If terrorists were banging missiles at America from foreign soil, 99% of the American people know exactly what our goals would be. Eliminate the problem. OUR problem is, you and so many of your little liberal friends have lived here in America where it is “safe” and you don’t know what it is like to wake up at 3AM to the sound of an incoming missile siren. We don’t know, and God willing we will never know, what that is like. You are coddled and you are are spoiled. Another thing, Chad Harris obviously has no life at all. Chad, let me tell you, the average person in America has the attention span of a gnat. Your little diatribes are spent on nobody and you impress nobody (with the exception of Midori, who will swallow anything that the left vomits out) and you waste the bloggers time in making them mouse past your rants. Your intellect would be better spent in trying to better the world, not sitting in front of a computer talking to faceless people that agree with you. We learn by interacting with people that DON’T agree with you.

By Rathunter

January 5, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this

Israel, like any nation, has the right to defend its borders and citizenry.

Its time to round up the offending cockroaches.

By Paul

January 5, 2009 6:33 PM | Link to this

Bosch

It’s all gone…. I thought this thread was about played out so some slack might be cut… oh well…

BSG Lives!

Hi Midori!

Zod? Next will you be Zur of the Kodan Armada?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 5, 2009 6:47 PM | Link to this

Has anyone else noticed how the muslim religion is waging it’s wars all over the planet through these supposedly separate groups; Hezbolah, Hamas, AlQueada, etc.? Somehow, these people are able to get weapons one would think would be reserved for military use. Where do they get them? Last time I checked, they don’t sell rockets at WalMart, so where does Hamas get enough rockets to lob them into Israel for weeks at a time?

You people are kidding yourselves if you think these groups aren’t just fronts for the governments in the middle east to wage war on their enemies without the retaliation that would surely come if these very same attacks came from the army of the people who supplied the weapons. Just ask Saddam and his sons how fragile life can be. Every last middle east leader knows they will face the same end if they carry out these attacks with thier national military instead of through these front groups.

The worst part is, you liberal apologists are falling for it. You’re foolish and you’re dangerous. Wake up.

By Justice

January 5, 2009 6:58 PM | Link to this

To all the fools like Bosch, if I started throwing bricks at your house and hurt your family and you call the authorities and they did nothing you would try and stop me from throwing bricks at your family and property. Like wise if the US had Canada or Mexico shoot rocket (6000) within the US border and killed citizens for 3 years you would demand something be done.

Now we find out Israel offered to hand over Gaza back to Egypt and they said HECK NO, they done want that PROBLEM because of the Palestinians. Israel gets shot at with rockets from Lebanon and the world criticizes Israel for protecting itself.

People like you are a disgrace to humanity. You probably would blame the rape victim for the rape instead of the criminal. And the protestors criticizes Israel, but its radical ISLAM causing problems all over the world such as Mumbai India, the Philippines, Africa in the Sudan, and the source of agitation is Saudi Arabia.

By Mickey

January 5, 2009 7:07 PM | Link to this

This is tiresome…Hamas needs to be destroyed.now. Tell every Palestinian in Gaza they have 24 hours to come out w/ their hands up. In 25 hours, start on the outer edge and push those who are left into the sea and end this Gaza craziness once and for all.

By Copyleft

January 6, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

S+T: Great idea!

“As for Israel… They should have learned from watching Bush fight the terrorists.”

And done what—attacked Turkey, or maybe Portugal?

By Manny

January 6, 2009 5:26 PM | Link to this

It is time to understand that war on terrorism is really war on humanity. I see nothing to justify the mass killing of people when there is a better way of solving human problems There is a bloodless and humane solution waiting to be implemented by all the peoples of the world. This solution would immediately start providing more room for everybody so stress, artificial food, wars, polluted water and air would eventually vanish. Our planet could be transformed into an el dorado and utopia within a few generations if women would agree on having only one child.

By Вячеслав Меньшиков

March 26, 2009 9:23 AM | Link to this

Прикольно написано, но как говорится, для более точного представления нужно как минимум хотя бы три источника :)