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The vote counting almost done in Minnesota

It looks like U.S. Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn. They’re in the process of counting the last thousand or so absentees right now, and Franken has added more than 130 votes to his 49-vote margin. Incumbent Norm Coleman will still try to fight this out in court, but the vote total is in Franken’s favor and there doesn’t seem to be any real grounds for overturning that result.

So the Senate will be 59 D, 41 R.

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By Midori

January 3, 2009 6:33 PM | Link to this

say it with me: SENATOR AL FRANKEN

Cause he’s good enough; he’s smart enough, and doggone it — people like him!!! :)

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 6:34 PM | Link to this

That’s what you think-

“It is the height of arrogance for any leader in Washington, D.C. to tell Minnesota voters whose votes should count and whose votes shouldn’t count,” Cornyn added.-Politico

They won’t seat a Senator from Minn. for three months, either way.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 6:42 PM | Link to this

Andy,

how is Washington “telling” Minn. voters whose votes should count, and whose shouldn’t?

the recount is taking place in Minnesota, directed by Minnesota officials, and manned by Minnesota officials.

you’re just not making sense.

par for the course.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 6:44 PM | Link to this

Jay,

you can follow the recount in real time here

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 6:45 PM | Link to this

Try reading the news, i r o diM.

duh

By Midori

January 3, 2009 6:52 PM | Link to this

Try following the rules, and stop calling me names.

How many times must I ask this of you?

What is wrong with you?

It’s apparent that you have no sense of decency and couth.

I have not called you out of your name and I demand that you treat me accordingly.

That link you posted is not “news”. The link I posted is the recount board meeting and counting votes as we speak.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 6:57 PM | Link to this

One interesting (slightly) aspect has been that in the wake of the Senate making fools of themselves legally in their posture towards Burris former Judge (it’s almost impossible to tell he’s been to law school) Corynyn has been saber rattling to block Frankin if he is sent to the Senate.

There is a huge problem with that very similar to the huge problem Harry Reid is going to have in Court later on.

No one can begin to argue that Frankin should be denied a Senate seat because of criminal activity, and there is no case law that blocks anyone from the Senate because they’ve played Stuart Smiley on Saturday Night Live—even from the time Lorn Michaels was producing it in 1776.

It is now know that ole Harry Reid is on Fitzie’s taped phone calls, but again it isn’t surprising or illegal. They had their horses they backed but at no time suggested a quid pro quo for their picks and we have to keep reminding the legally naive witnutties here that that’s the focuse of Fitzie in the indictment he now has asked to put off for 90 more days, if not more at the end of 90. Fitz isn’t very comforble unless he has several years to build a case. That’s both admirable as to work ethic, but a downside sometimes.

What is interesting though is that Harry Reid and Rahm as well as new leader of the Dems Political arm were taped recommending against three black elected politicians - Emil Jones, Danny Davis and Jesse Jackson, Jr. because they are supposedly “not electable”; in favor of a white woman, Tammy Duckworth who has, you know, been previously found unelectable by the voters of Illinois.

My personal preference would be to give Tammy a shot. I think she can grow into the job and she can gain a rapport with the Illinois electorate in a couple years.

Duckworth who everyone knows lost to legs as a chopper pilot in Iraq, was the inside favorite to be Veterans Affairs Secretary when Obama appointed the presient and booted for being correct dretired Gen. Eric Shinseki.

What’s interesting is Rahm apparently speaking for Obama was rejecting 3 black individuals, and one of them was Obama’s political Godfather in Illinois Emil Jones, without whom you might well never have heard the name Barack in your life.

The other white woman that Reid-Menendez-Emanuel were seen pushing on tape was the eggregious Lisa Maddigan, attorney general of Illinois who is currently displaying primo ignorance of federal appellate law, who is only in office because her daddy the powerful speaker of the House in Illionis put her there.

I suppose it’s more interesting because the Falcons are close, but their pass defense has been horrible and Lawyer Malloy seems to be all mouth and nothing to back it up when the chips are down.

Everyone said turnovers would be key and they have been.

I’d say the 4th quater is put up or shut up for Smith’s Raiders. They are defending against one of the best pass games in the NFL, and the Cardinals defense is also looking pretty hot today.

It’s going to take no turnovers, a near perfect defense and two TDs.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 7:01 PM | Link to this

Hi Chad :)

Happy New Year to you!!!

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 7:06 PM | Link to this

i r o diM: Are you honestly trying to say the democrat criminals on the election board have the last say?

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2009 7:06 PM | Link to this

Some precincts have more votes, by a wide margin, on the recount over what what they had on election night. It’s possible those are legitimate votes since that’s what a recount is for, but there is also a very good chance that these aren’t legit because of a practice of the field workers making duplicates of ballots for various reasons.

There is also the case where a precinct has some 133 ballots less than were counted on election night, but the canvassing board is using the election night results instead of the recount vote.

On what planet do these situations mean there is no basis for a challenge?

By Midori

January 3, 2009 7:11 PM | Link to this

Andy,

you’re so ignorant, it hurts.

I can’t imagine having to breath the same air as someone so woefully inadequate and ignorant as you.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 7:21 PM | Link to this

BTW if the Minnesota Supreme Court rules against Coleman and allows the counting of the wrongly rejected absentee ballots Frankin is going to clearly win.

The recount of those rejected votes began early this morning, and the canvassing committee predicts they’ll be through on Tuesday.

Then, and no surprise here, we knew it was coming, Coleman vows to litigate the election taking a page from Bushie in 2000.

For those of you who like specifics and numbers, 953 absentee votes are being counted right now, and as many as 2000 disputed absentee votes could be counted later.

If Coleman loses in the Minnesota Supreme Court in a few or couple days, the election is Frankin’s and Coleman has vowed he will contest the result in Court. This will percolate up the Appellate ladder via the Eight Circuit Court of Appeals, and then if goofball and former Texas Supreme Court Justice John legal moron Cornyn tries to dispute Frankin’s seating on a basis he would have to pull from his large butt, this could stretch out for as much as a year leaving only Amy Klobuchar to represent Minessota.

Theoretically then litigation could keep two states from having their Democratic Senator and for a while that would make the margin 57-41.

After the dust has settled though, it’s going to be 59-41. Frankin is in a great position if he wins the litigation after he will win the court decision that comes next week I predict.

Although they are my team the dems are looking pretty pathetic right now in the Senate. But not for the reason the wingnutheads would come up with applying their superficial analysis.

The dems in the Senate and House have been pathetic in their handling of Joe Lieberman, Harriet Miers, Karl Rove, the bill that suspended Habeas Corpus, (which is being chipped away in the federal appellate courts and Supreme Court now), the Fourth Amendment, torture, FISA, and Burris.

Gregory is way too dimwitted to ask Reid the correct legal questions and if you have a puppy, your puppy could do as well as Gregory. Gregory was selected by the timid NBD because GE likes his no waves approach and softball questions that fail to uncover anything at all, in the tradition of the actually softball lobbing Russert.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 7:34 PM | Link to this

Have a great year Midori!

By getalife

January 3, 2009 7:35 PM | Link to this

Bye Coleman and Falcons.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2009 7:44 PM | Link to this

OFF TOPIC

getalife,

You were a linebacker weren’t you? Would you have ever even considered covering the backs short and letting the tight end go by on that 3rd and 16? At the end of the day it was the Falcons most veteran player that made the rookie mistake.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 7:48 PM | Link to this

An interesting question would be what the two linebackers thought they were doing because obviously any shallow passes meant zero. I bet no local affiliate asks them.

By Really Strange

January 3, 2009 8:01 PM | Link to this

Whew!!! And I thought Florida was going to go down in history as the largest group of boobs when it comes to voting. Thank you Minnesota! A professional wrestler for a Governor and now a comic for a Senator! Plus - high drama as to who really won! It don’t get no better than this! I’ve got to ship them an emergency load of grits to get them through this!!!

By Cherokee

January 3, 2009 8:17 PM | Link to this

Hey really strange, not sure if you’re from Georgia, but anyone who was involved in sending the vile dimwitted Saxby back to the Senate has no room to make fun of anyone else.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 8:20 PM | Link to this

@ Get a Life—

It helps for all of us to be objective if for no more reason than to size up who you consider the enemy. Everyone knows Frankin wrote and performed comedy. Many of us did different things as the years rolled along. But anyone who characterizes Frankin as a comic is badly out of date.

Frankin has evolved into a seriously bright politician. I taped his radio show which ran for a couple years on Air America. It displayed as much insight as any Senator I’ve seen, or anyone in government for that matter, and the guests he had on (Republicans as well) were first rate and he had them on for serious discussions, not cheap sound bytes.

I don’t know if any of them are on the web, but I can tell you that Frankin looked considerably brighter than a lot of political talking heads like Gregory and when he had a Senator on his show (frequently) he asked questions that were a lot more insightful than David Gregory or often Stephanopolis and his panel.

When Frankin is seated in the Senate, and he will be, he’s going to be junior but he will be important and he will be noticed and you and a lot of other people will realize there is nothing comic about what he gets done. He is a lot smarter than a lot of people on both sides of the aisles. He also had better informed people on Iraq and just about any other important topic than you see on your TV.

And Frankin does something most Senators don’t. He actually reads in depth.

I’d say calling Frankin a comic would be like calling Kurt Warner a pizza eater. He may eat pizza, but he can throw the hell out of a football.

By getalife

January 3, 2009 8:22 PM | Link to this

RW,

I think that whoopin LSU did to his old team got stuck in his head.

Keith blew that one but he played a good game.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 8:28 PM | Link to this

Well surprise, surprise-

Obama keeps silent on explosive Gaza conflict

Other than his trillion dollar coup de grace, he’s been silent on a whole lot of other things too.

Maybe he’s just a big weenie?

ew

By getalife

January 3, 2009 8:29 PM | Link to this

I watch our glorious Congress on C-Span so will see him in action.

The Senate is a corrupt, cover each other’s as-ses, pat each other on the backs, corporate lovin body, so hopefully he will stir things up.

I will be watching. Should be an interesting session with the Dems setting the agenda.

By The Corporal

January 3, 2009 8:36 PM | Link to this

To Midori

Re: your 6:52

I like you a lot when you stick to debating but you are one of the worst on these threads for name calling, etc.

Now would be a good time (New Year) for everyone to knock all of that off.

Let’s stick to reasoned debate. A little caustic humor is fine but no name calling.

By getalife

January 3, 2009 8:41 PM | Link to this

Yeah Andy,

Knock off that “big weenie” crap.

Geez.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 8:47 PM | Link to this

Corporal/E4/what ever your name is: why don’t you mind your own business?

You would like to categorize my criticisms of your bizarre and childish “thoughts” as attacks. Go for it. I call them for what they are.

However, YOU were not part of the conversation.

B*tt out.

Don’t you have some sand from Obama’s kindergarten sandbox to analyze?

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 8:51 PM | Link to this

Really Strange—

You must be from another planet. Frankin, Harvard educated has been a serious commentator on political issues for years. He had spectacular people on his radio show every day. He’s terribly versed in the issues and Frankin is exponentially smarter than most people in the US Senate, not remotely like Jessie Ventura, and he is better informed as to foreign affairs than the pathetic Condi Rice. Rice wouldn’t look good debating Frankin, and he would clean the clock of any of the pathetic candidates that the Republicans put up who got beat by over 160 electoral votes.

Frankin did a 3 hour show for years where he had nothing but heavy hitters who were experts in every conceivable field, economics, Iraq, government, the courts and he did a great job of doing his homework on the issues.

So you’re free to believe Frankin is a comic or whatever, and lump him with Jessie Ventura. There is no law against being delusional as long as you don’t hurt anyone, and you can only be hospitalized forcibly by harming yourself or others or theatening to.

But the facts are that Frankin is as well informed as anyone (and those would be damn few) who is well informed in the Senate or the House.

He will be one of the seriously best informed Senators, and he will be valuable. Frankin had a number of people like former Secretaru of the Navy and current Senator, Jim Webb on frequently discussing US foreing incursions and there was no gap at all in their knowledge level.

He had a lot of the cutting edge economic thinkers with different views on his show, and some excellent constitutional law experts.

I don’t know if you thought Frankin has been sitting back and writing jokes or doing standup but that’s not what he’s done for years, not that the two couldn’t be compatible. He also graduated Harvard and he teaches a couple courses at Harvard and they have nothing to do with comedy.

I’d remind you we were told to take Palin seriously and she came accross as a first rate imbecile because she absolutely was.

Frankin versus Palin in a debate. She’d be cut to ribbons but it’s a scene I’d love to see.

Palin would not have understood one discusssion on Frankin’s radio show any more than she knew what the “Bush doctrine” was when Charlie Gibson nailed her in the headlights and she contemplated trying to bluff her way through without knowing what it was.

Frankin had some of the best newspaper and print writers on his show regularly. He had Thomas Ricks on frequently who was the WaPo’s senior Pentagon correspondent and was part of two teams that won the Pulitzer. And before you make the mistake that Ricks was a leftie, Ricks had the same job at the WSJ for seventeen years reporting from Somalia, Haiti, Korea, Bosnea, Kosovo, Kuwait, Turkey, Macedonia, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Somehow I don’t envision Palin or Ventura doing those interviews day in and day out and if you want to talk comedy the only think that was the upside of Palin was the terrific comedy evoked when Tina Fey decimated her using her own words verbatim.

And Palin to this day has not had a press conference. Obama (who Wooten claims we don’t know) had had literally hundreds of interviews with anyone on TV. No one has shielded Obama from anyone on TV or in print. Obama held press conferences several times a week throughout his campaign both in the primary and in the general and I don’t know how you could preceive McCain’s absurd antics at the end saying he was suspending his campaign to focus on saving the country economically when McCain sat in the meetings he attended and said nothing because he had no idea what to say.

And boy, McCain sure did come to the aid of his country economically. We’re in great shape in the current depression thanks to McCain’s clutch plays in late October and November.

Do they award economic Medals of Honor? Why hasn’t McCain gotten one yet.

McCain versus Frankin? You’ll get to see it soon and Frankin will tear him several new ones to use Southern vernacular.

Here’s a transcript from one of his shows where he chopped up an author wrote a book replete with errors:

By getalife

January 3, 2009 8:54 PM | Link to this

Midori,

W-2, er the private, is not handling retirement from the secret service, Baptist preacher, Wal Mart greeter, etc.. too well so he has decided to appoint himself blog monitor.

I find it hilarious.

I think if he analyzes that sand he would find out it is Muslim sand. Then back to the Supreme Court.

He has a permanent tin foil hat.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 9:01 PM | Link to this

LOL, Getalife — you have me in stitches here!!!!!

I find it hilarious as well!! :)

Maybe he and Justice Thomas can discuss the sand’s properties over lunch? Corporal can bring the magnifying glasses.

ROFL!!!

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 9:04 PM | Link to this

Al Frankin and Joe Conanson chopping up Ed Klien on the mistakes in his book. Ed Klien has written a number of books on the Kennedys and Hillary Clinton. He was the foreign editor of Newseek for years, and edited NYT Magazine for years. Klien got his masters from Columbia School of Journalism. And Frankin took him apart. I don’t think that Klien thought anything remotely comic was going on here:

Frankin takes apart former Newseek foreign editor Ed Klien

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506240007

By The Corporal

January 3, 2009 9:21 PM | Link to this

Now Midori

You are being a little sensitive regarding constructive criticism.

You can sure dish it out but …..

Just stick to debating….it’s so much more professional.

P.S. If you post on this blog, it’s anyone’s business who reads it.

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 3, 2009 9:22 PM | Link to this

Franken was much more talented than Reagan.

Bonzo upstaged Ronnie in every scene.

Sonny Bono was kinda funny as Cher abused him.

Wasn’t Gopher in the House for while?

Now, Fred Thompson was a more serious actor, but something of a one note player.

Arnie, now there’s an actor.

Looks like we won again.

la la la la la

By danjonglee

January 3, 2009 9:25 PM | Link to this

The Romans elected a horse to the Senate. Looks like we’re going to elect a jackass. Having a ill-tempered uncouth clown as a Senator could be a lot of fun.

By The Corporal

January 3, 2009 9:25 PM | Link to this

To getadeath

Hey, you were close - my dad was a Baptist Preacher and a very good one at that!

He raised me to avoid cursing (even the Marines didn’t change me), and to be as respectful as possible.

I highly recommend it.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 9:32 PM | Link to this

AJC whatevah—

It’s clear you couldn’t carry Obama’s jockstrap. You have no points at all on the issues. You should try reading any newspaper once in your life. You are one badass spending hours a day/night screaming epithets against someone who hasn’t been President for a day but inherets arguably the most complex series of problems in one cluster (f*ck left by the inane Bush) of any President.

Surprise me and display the ability to discuss one issue. We know mommy raised a kid that can name-call, but that’s actually a defense mechanism for people who lack the education to discuss the issues and are too lazy to read to get that education. One major difference in Obama and you, is that he’s conversant/articulate in a wide range of issues and can discuss them.

Only a child would claim that everyone who rules the way you don’t want is criminal. Every major election Board decision in Minnesota has been taken to the Minesotta Supreme Court. Several of those Supreme Court justices were appointed by one Arne Carlson, the Republican governor of Minnesota when he appointed them.

You didn’t know that and now that you do your prepared to argue that Arne Carlson was a Republican governor who was a criminal because of course the justices he appointed are ruling against Coleman. That’d be 4+ bright.

Carlson, a Republican was one of many prominent Republicans that endorsed Barack Obama.

Carlson was elected to two terms from 1991-1999 the max you can serve in Minnesota and most states. He was highly regarded, and he said the idiocy and racial bigotry of Michelle Bachman who is the real comic figure in Congress from Minessota currently pushed him into endorsing Obama.

Her widely quoted stupidity as to whether Obama had “pro-America or anti-America views.” which happened to be precisely the plank that the pathetic Palin and McCain ran on that did him in was what pushed Carlson, who was a conservative moderate to endorse Obama.

Carlson is a true maverick. The self proclaimed “mavericky mavericks”, i.e. the losers that will be lucky to get a visitor’s pass to the White House, not so much.

“I think the disappointing part of the McCain campaign has been its inability to develop a national vision,” Carlson said.

Midori—Justice Thomas doesn’t enter into discussions. He has been on the Supreme Court for 17 years and has made history in one unique way. He is too in touch with his own legal ignorance to have ever made a single comment or asked a single question at oral argument where every other justice can’t get enough mike time.

Thomas is so paranoid he had the Secret service illegally confiscate notepads and tape recorders. There is no law against tape recording a Supreme Court Justice during a private speech whatsoever. The Secret Service later was forced to issue an apology, one of many of their efforts to lean on people politically.

Yet another were the arrests of people who had T-shirts that were critical of Bush’s death fiasco in Iraq, (all charges were dropped and suits against the Secret Service have either been settled or are pending), and the Secret Service covered up and blocked the arrest of the newest Palin baby’s grandmama for two months during the campaign for dealing Oxycontin in large quantities.

The kid will learn early on the joys of visiting grandmama in federal prison. Usually in this country in large numbers unfortunately it’s the other way around.

Senator Webb’s new bill to curtail the prison time for low level possession and penny ante non violent crimes when this government is hemorrhaging billions of dollars stupidly would tie off some of the financial arteries bleeding this government dry and putting them into monstrous debt to China and India among others and literaly printing new money that’s worth exponentially less than it used to be.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 9:34 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

I think I’ll call you BM from now on.

how’s that for professional?

By @@

January 3, 2009 9:39 PM | Link to this

Still short, jay.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 9:44 PM | Link to this

I’m just trying to figure out what sort of psychosis would conjure up Sarah Palin debating a total klown and children’s charity thief like Al Franken.

WTF, man??

Do you dress up in women’s clothes too, Chad?

Freak.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 9:47 PM | Link to this

My goodness, the perfect prototypical democrat that Al Franken is, nobody will tune in to your moron radio station so go and steal money from a children’s charity in Brooklyn to keep your BS broadcast alive.

Embrace your hero, POS.

hahahaha

freak

By Midori

January 3, 2009 9:49 PM | Link to this

Chad,

I’ve often noticed Thomas’ lack of, what is it, curiosity? interest? when the high court convened and made decisions.

but I didn’t know the other stuff you posted about his having notepads, etc. confiscated.

I remember when he appeared on 60 Minutes, during his book tour. He came across as sullen, arrogant, less than intelligent, and needlessly nasty.

I’ve always imagined him to be Scalia’s b*tt boy.

I can’t wait to see Andy’s response(s) to you. Should be a real treat. Or maybe Corporal will jump in (once again) and put his blog monitor prowess to work. That ought to put you in your place!!!

ROFL!!!

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 9:55 PM | Link to this

i r o diM: Spoke too soon, did ya?

By Midori

January 3, 2009 10:01 PM | Link to this

Chad,

needless to say, the eunich did not disappoint.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 10:01 PM | Link to this

*January 3, 2009 9:47 PM | Link to this

My goodness, the perfect prototypical democrat that Al Franken is, nobody will tune in to your moron radio station so go and steal money from a children’s charity in Brooklyn to keep your BS broadcast alive.

Embrace your hero, POS.

hahahaha

freak*

“AJC”—

Are you past the fourth grade yet? Does mommy yell when you wet your pants?

So your retort is that Palin, who clearly does not know any foreign or domestic issue as well as most of my friends’ high school kids, shouldn’t debate Frankin, the graduate of a college you could never be admitted to because someone who can discuss the issues well, and the legal ones you can’t, and the medical ones that you can’t cross dresses.

That’s a superlative retort. Even the morons at Faux news would laugh at you.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 3, 2009 10:02 PM | Link to this

Hey, if Minnesota decides to elect a bozo to the US Senate, who are we to complain?

I mean seriously, they did elect a “professional” wrasler to be their governor, bwahahaha.

They really are democrats!

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2009 10:03 PM | Link to this

This comment probably won’t be on topic to the letter of the current law around here, but it occurs to me that we’ve been treated to what seems like hundreds of lectures from Jay B about what Republicans need to be like to be successful in the future.

Those descriptions of future successful Republicans pretty much match being clones of Norm Coleman, yet this gloating blurb we’ve been treated to is celebrating his political demise at the hands of a fifth rate comedian.

Can we please get back to being to being true conservatives and quit listening to the Bookman’s of the world that obviously want to lead us to our own extinction?

By Midori

January 3, 2009 10:11 PM | Link to this

Andy-

it appears your “defense mechanism” has been exposed.

You don’t have a single, solitary thing to contribute to civil discourse.

The irony is that you’re proud of it.

I’ll light a candle for you tonight.

By Cherokee

January 3, 2009 10:21 PM | Link to this

Hey RW you’re absolutely correct. Embrace your inner conservative. Support Palin for President. Support Saltzman for RNC director. Toss anyone out of the party who doesn’t agree with hard right social conservatism, as expressed by Hannity, O’Reilly, and Dobson.

More power to ya, buddy…

And Midori, I usually just lurk around here, but it’s truly telling that the Corporal jumped you for being ‘nasty’, while giving a pass to Andy.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 10:26 PM | Link to this

Cherokee,

they all inhabit the same swamp.

By Taxpayer

January 3, 2009 10:29 PM | Link to this

Cherokee,

You left out Lord Limbaugh.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 10:31 PM | Link to this

Midori—

I don’t think that Thomas ordered the notepads confiscated or tape recorders confiscated, but he might have had input. Secret Service goes over the line sometimes and forgets their job is to protect their subjects from physical harm, not from damage to their reputations because they say stupid things. Thomas probably has been mute since his appointment by Daddy Bush because now the Supreme Court oral argument transcripts are taped, and very quickly put on line.

He can hide behind his law clerks when opinions are issued because they research and write them and are from some of the best law shools, but he’d have to think on his feet in oral argument and you’ll notice a common denomiator among conservatives who aren’t very bright.

Here they’ll call names or say you cross dress—is that a badass put down or what—and reflect their own latent homosexuality or sexual impotence like Andy, or they just won’t talk and won’t do spontaneous interviews like Clarence Thomas most of the time or Sarah Palin all the time. Palin as I say all the time has never consented to a press conference where reporters can ask her questions. She had some carefully picked interviews during her campaign mostly from pathetic Faux pseudo-news people, but she won’t even do press conferences in her snow billy home state.

I wonder if Obama’s Secretary of Treasury will send an agent to make her pay the illegal non-reported 17 grand or slap a lein on her multimillion dollar house paid for miraculously by First Dude’s oil job on the Northern slope. How First Dude and numb brain got a multimillion dollar home outside Wasilla is a good question.

I applaud minorities on the Court. There have been far too few of them because obviously there are scores if not hundreds of well qualified women, Hispanics, African Americans, Muslims, you name it who could be distinguished federal appellate or S. Ct. justices.

Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas are the only two African Americans who have been on the S. Ct. bench.

Thomas has no significant litigation experience in any court, including traffic court, nor has he had experience serving on any federal court for any length of time until Daddy Bush ridiculously put him on the S. Ct. Daddy Bush was correct in picking a minority, but zeroing in on Thomas who rules out of resentment and is saved from total stupidity by some of his law clerks—Laura Ingraham wasn’t one of them who saved him from stupidity, was a screwup of major proportions.

It is common to think of Thomas as Scalia’s puppy dog, but actually the real picture opinion wise is a more complex. There are opinion analyses done all the time by law reviews and web sites.

Practically though, I believe Scallia has profound influence over Thomas, and also intimidates the living hell out of Thomas although Thomas will never say so.

Thomas couldn’t get a job when he applied at any Atlanta law firm. This had nothing to do with the color of his skin, because these firms already had African American partners and major litigators for years before Thomas applied.

Thomas also could not get a job nearly every place he applied in the country and finally got hired by Danforth who sponsered him in the Senate.

Daddy Bush appointed him first to the D.C. Circuit, a place where he was eminently unqualified, never having served as judge on any court. It might surprise you to know that there are a significant number of federal judges out of the 770 or so currently on the trial and appellate bench who have never litigatged a nano second in a federal court room. Buckhead Frank Hull on the Eleventh Circuit appointed by Bill Clinton is one of them. Frank has never tried a case in a courtroom. She is a pure political appointment and when I attend an oral argument where Frank is on the panel and I’ve gotten into the case before, it is pathetic to listen to her questions. She sticks to facts, or her perception of them, and I’ve never heard her ask a question that would display any knowledge of the legal issues at stake and don’t expect to ever any.

Her law clerks cover the legal issues, and Frank shops and signs the opinions. Welcome to political hacks on federal appellate courts in the Bannnan Republic of the US. There are a number of them. There are some terifically qualified judges, but Frank ain’t one.

Oddly Thomas is pretty good friends with Ruth Ginsberg, who was an outstanding trial litigator and appellate litigator for ACLU before she went to Yale and then was appointed to the bench by Bill Clinton.

It’s not based on his knowledge of legal issues though.

Bush appointed Thomas because he thought he could predict his vote and Bush was dead on in that respect. He hasn’t disappointed Daddy Bush position wise in any opinion I can remember.

BTW an excellent book that gets into the Justices and analyzes their positions that is very readable is Jeff Toobin’s The Nine now in paperback.

By sunshine and thunder

January 3, 2009 10:37 PM | Link to this

The Senate will seat comedian Franken and not Burris? Huh?

Franken is an neanderthal who tries to use fisticuffs to settle arguments. His knuckles drag lower than a Sumatran Orang.

The gorilla on Trading Places reportedly refused to rape Al Franken. That’s why the stand in got caught off guard.

Franken couldn’t get any listeners to his show on Air America so he ran for the Senate and ACORN got him elected.

Congratulations Minnesota, you have come a long way since the days of Fran Tarkenton.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2009 10:39 PM | Link to this

Cherokee,

I don’t think a true conservative is a hard right social conservative.

I believe Palin would make a great President unless she really does buy into the McCain immigration strategy and I support Michael Steele for RNC chair.

For a lurker you really aren’t very observant.

By Midori

January 3, 2009 10:47 PM | Link to this

Chad,

prior to Thomas being selected for the SCOTUS, he was director of the EEO.

My understanding is the EEOC was in a complete shambles when he left.

Tremendous case backloads, and a demoralized staff.

By moonbat betty

January 3, 2009 11:00 PM | Link to this

chad, you are the bomb.

hopefully, more fine writers such as your self will come forward and delight the world world with your long winded diatribes.

I love you.

mamma mia mamma mia

By Midori

January 3, 2009 11:01 PM | Link to this

Please explain to me: why Palin make a “great” president?

What are her qualifications?

what are her contributions?

By Midori

January 3, 2009 11:09 PM | Link to this

what’s wrong Betty?

Upset that it takes you a hammer, glue and a bucket of nails in order to put a coherent sentence together?

why are you being such a hater?

By Doggone/GA

January 3, 2009 11:15 PM | Link to this

“Please explain to me: why Palin make a “great” president?”

Good question. The way I see it, she’d be a “great President” in the same class as that GP Dubya.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2009 11:21 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I’ll ignore the fact that you ignore direct questions that I ask you and entertain your question to me.

First off we need to correct your premise that I said Palin would be a great President and correct to where I said I believe she would be with certain conditions. I know of of no President that has been exactly what we thought they would be in advance.

Care to continue?

By Taxpayer

January 3, 2009 11:24 PM | Link to this

Palin probably can’t even make a great bed or breakfast. She definitely couldn’t make it as a student. Those big words in her text books may have been just too much to overcome. So, how could anyone think that she would make a great president. That is unless Lord Limbaugh tells them that she would be great. Ha. Ha. Ha.

By Taxpayer

January 3, 2009 11:29 PM | Link to this

Which McCain immigration strategy, the one when he was for it or the one when he was against it. Sounds mighty “wishy-washy”.

By Chad Harris

January 3, 2009 11:40 PM | Link to this

LOL—

When Thuglicans lose elections it’s not because 85% of the country rejects their stupidity.

When Thuglicans don’t like judicial opinions, they’re crooks.

And that comically (the only comic relevance to Senator Frankin) is why you will die before you gain a majority in the Senate and you will die before you see a Thuglican in the White House.

As long as you keep displacing the blame the way a Borderline personality does, and don’t take responsibiity to learn the issues and mount a platform that the majority of American voters support, you will continue to lose.

So keep up with your prescription:

Call Dems Crossdressers when you don’t like what they say.

Pretend Frankin is a dumb comic, and watch him hand defeats and the badass to your moronic Senators like Corynyn.

Keeping a show profitable on the radio may help the radio broadcaster get rich, but as Rush and the Thuglicans have shown in spades you still get your badass handed to you and I like the fact that although you can’t type out the last syllable of badasss here and have it show up, you can get it done with badass.

Keep on Keepin’ on.

Put up Palin and Jindall and you’ll get your badass handed to you.

Keep on WHINING about your defeats in court, even though 18/21 judges in the D.C. Circuit are Rethuglican appointees and little federalst martinets who don’t always rule for you.

Keep on WHINING about S. Ct. opinions like Boumidiene which S&T and “AJC” would have to look up to understand the implications.

Keep on slinging names with your little mice and keyboards, and watch the extremists in your party lose elections, and watch how quickly the Bush executive orders get turned to dust. They are already being decimated and will be quickly dismantled in the coming months.

I never saw more pathetic WHINING using epithets like kids not past the sixth grade with a vocabularly and reading context to match.

By The Corporal

January 3, 2009 11:50 PM | Link to this

To Cherokee

I guess you failed to read this part:

Now would be a good time (New Year) for everyone to knock all of that off.

To Midori

BM? “BAD MARINE”!

I like it !!!

By mm

January 3, 2009 11:59 PM | Link to this

What a concept. Count every vote. Con or Dem, count every one.

Is that against the wingnut way? OooooooooooohHHHHHH. We need a lawsuit to win an election. Sound familiar?

The party that depends on voter suppression is getting it’s a* kicked.

Bwa

By Chad Harris

January 4, 2009 12:03 AM | Link to this

What Palin put on display was not an average American soccer mom. Palin put on display a trashy, poorly educated hillbilly family. A lot of Gergians in a state which has never achieved better than 46th in SAT scores because its public school system is horrible, despite some specific instances of decent schools, unfortunately almost uniformly in affluent neighborhoods.

I understand why a large number of poorly educated individuals ID’d with Palin. I understand why a vet dumb enough to think Tamiflu has any relationship to antiviral therapy for H5N1 thought Palin was dynamite for Chambliss (hard to belive that Perdue who has been a terrible governor dodging every major issue like drout, the crappy highway system in Georgia, public transportation really went to a vet school and passed exams).

And what vet school did Sonny attend?

Gimme a Red! Gimme a Black! Gimme a Bulldog!

I wonder who taught infectious diseases to ole Sonny? He must have either been AWOL or had a totally incompetent bump on a log if he was taught that spending $6 million in taxpayer money on Tamiflu stockpiles that wouldn’t touch pandemic flu was appropriate.

I’d love to see Dean Sheila Allen’s comment on spending $6 million for Tamiflu to go after pandemic flu when the literatue is replete with multicenter trial after multicenter trial that shows it doesn’t touch mutating H5N1 and only builds resistance.

Does AJC think to question it? Hell no. I don’t think they even have a full time medical or science reporter. Maybe they should get the Sunday computer writer Bill Husted to google it.

Welcome to Georgia and the anti-scientific government and the land of Palin think.

Palin will bring continued ridicule and loss to the Rethuglican party but a lot of SNL laughs so bring her on, please.

She won’t see the light of day in office outside Snowbilly Alaska though.

By Dusty

January 4, 2009 12:04 AM | Link to this

Hello 911…this blog is driving drunk. Would Bookman please come to the rescue and put IT to bed?

That’s right. Thank you. Goodnight all. Sleep tight.

By Chad Harris

January 4, 2009 12:08 AM | Link to this

Palin would make a great President the way Paris Hilton would make an outstanding surgeon. Statements that she would give clinical support to the fact that Georgia has never been above 46th in SAT rankings in the history of the test.

By Dusty

January 4, 2009 12:10 AM | Link to this

More drunk driving!!

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By Chad Harris

January 4, 2009 12:22 AM | Link to this

It is pathetic and very Bannana republicesque and reflects poorly on all potlitical parties and all Americans that

1)In 2009 we still have voting machines that are unreliable and we have them in most states with no paper trail. Those SOS’s that oppose them make fools of themselves—can you spell Karen Handel who to this minute has defied an Eleventh Circuit order to show proof of voter fraud—how about that all you Acorn whining fetishests. If Acorn is so steeped in fraud why is it that the private attorney Handel is using your money for representation who was nothing but an election litigator under Bowers for many years cannot come up with a single instance of voter fraud and has refused to file a motion when ordered to?

A big baddass legal LOL to that! Why don’t you Acorn fetishests call Mark Cohen and demand since he’s collecting a lot of your money per hour that he get smart like you and learn how to spell Acorn? What b******! Mark wouldn’t touch Acorn as an excuse with a 10 foot pole and when Judge Birch issued the order from the bench he really put it in ole Handel’s (fill in the blank).

2) It is pathetic that the Democrats have such a byzantine and confusing to most people who aren’t election officials in a specific state way of handling their primaries instead of rotating regional primaries and uniform election rules.

3) It is pathetic and dismaying to me that whomever wins in Minnesota, and it’s going to be Franken that there is all this controversy over absenty ballots and ballots that were discarded and other frankly bizarre situations although they are going to crop up any time an election is that close.

We should be a smarter and better country as to our elections. There shouldn’t be any question of accuracy but there are always recurrent problems.

I wouldn’t hold the example of Michael Steele the recurrent loser up as an example of anything. Other than yammering and slobbering on Faux news you aren’t going to see him going anywhere and he won’t be defeating any Dem for any office.

We send people from our country pompously to monitor elections in poorly developed countries, yet our elections show the same characteristics much too often.

We should have systems that don’t invite litigation, although it has been a frequent tactic for Thuglicans.

I would point out that in nearly 22 court battles that preceeded this past election, Thuglicans lost every single court battle in every single state.

LOL activist judges all around?

LOL criminals for judges?

Let’s hear the course of whining from the Wingnuts.

By moonbat betty

January 4, 2009 12:24 AM | Link to this

chad is probably an english major.

god forbid if he ever had to save an animal.

By Chad Harris

January 4, 2009 12:32 AM | Link to this

But God if there is one, hasn’t forbid that Chad has saved a lot of people and a few animals in your state ole Betty and put the meds the truck and taught them to the EMTs back when most physicians didn’t want EMTs to touch patients in the living room. And those of us who got the meds on the trucks who covered the ERs had a name for the trucks back then—we called them hearses.

So if you consider people animals, and most animals are better than most people, maybe you’d be somewhat accurate.

I’m still waiting for any of you whiners to discuss an issue instead of doing the morinic b*** that someone is long winded, yada yada.

Do any of you have any education and do any of you have a clue as to issues?

Not too damn many.

By Dusty

January 4, 2009 12:34 AM | Link to this

DUI!! May I see your license, SIR?

Betty, would you drive Chad to the station? Thank you.

By Chad Harris

January 4, 2009 12:45 AM | Link to this

Dusty I haven’t seen any evidence of even grade school education out of you, but if you think you have the medical education to challenge me bring it. You don’t and you won’t.

By Dusty

January 4, 2009 12:50 AM | Link to this

Drunk and disorderly!! Into the clinker for you, bud. And keep it down. There.

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By The Sheriff

January 4, 2009 12:54 AM | Link to this

chad- pulled over- put in his pen

sleep well tight g-nite

By Chad Harris

January 4, 2009 12:56 AM | Link to this

Par Dusty. When you lack the ability to discuss anything, resort to hitting a key on your keyboard repeatedly and invoke drinking. Impressive to no one but Dusty.

By Dusty

January 4, 2009 12:59 AM | Link to this

Thank you, Sheriff and good night.

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By Midori

January 4, 2009 1:05 AM | Link to this

They are pathetic, aren’t they Chad?

And they all employ the same defense mechanism — behave and respond like childish idiots.

On another note: something I was reading that had me LMAO

You should read what Frank Rich has to say about the booklet

Frank doesn’t hold anything back!! :)

By Chamidi

January 4, 2009 1:17 AM | Link to this

oh chad!!!

my midori!

i love you

picture?

By Tom

January 4, 2009 2:05 AM | Link to this

Coleman will play all the cheap Repug cards, whining all the way to a courtroom. It’s the Repug way of life.

BTW. Our Israeli Masters are now invading Gaza. Under the usual cries of “innocense” and “victims.” Our weapons, our ammunition. Our costs. Same old same old. 60 years of it now, non-stop.

By Chad Harris

January 4, 2009 2:17 AM | Link to this

Rich is one of the essayists in this country.

It’s very simple. Acorn hasn’t been implicated in fraud in the history of elections.

And in a masterstroke, Judge Birch decided to shut Karen Handel and the wingnuts up, even though he is conservative.

He told them to put up or shut up. He ordered them in the voter ID case now before the Eleventh Circuit to show evidence of voter fraud.

If Acorn were valid, why havenn’t they complied with Birch’s order. The reason is obvious. While Handel has shot her mouth off for years, when it came time for proof she doesn’t have any.

It’s appropriate that she’s been order to provide proof in the case where her Voter ID scheme is at stake.

And the solution for these idiots here rather than confront the issue or debate is to focus on the people who make fools of them because they can’t deal with the issues. It’s monotonous, repetitive and predicatable.

By Gary

January 4, 2009 2:58 AM | Link to this

Hey LITTLE CORPORAL (That was Hitler’s nickname - but yoiu wouldn’y know that. Knock off the silly, childish, ridiculous “marine corps” crap. No one is interested. doubt very much if you served a day in the military. These blpogs are filled with heroic right-wing never-serveds, driving SUVs and P/Us. And IF you did serve, who cares??? Qualifies you for…WHAT?? Hatred? Pretty meaningless. I doubt that any real soul on this blog has more in-combat time (years) as I - but I don’t talk about it. Nor do others. So, HERO, I’ll ask you here for a quick-list of your duty stations, dates, specs on your DD214. That should be easy for your credibility, eh?? You’re as much of a Marine hero as the Navy considers McCain a…”hero.” Grow up.

By AJC/DNC Management

January 4, 2009 6:37 AM | Link to this

By mm January 3, 2009 11:59 PM What a concept. Count every vote. Con or Dem, count every one. Is that against the wingnut way?

mmoron- Counting them all for Franken is where the problem lies.

duh

By AJC/DNC Management

January 4, 2009 6:48 AM | Link to this

Anonymous quotes from terrorists, how nice-

Gaza’s Hamas rulers vowed that the coastal strip would be a “graveyard” for Israeli forces.-Urinal/Jihad

Nothing like emboldening the enemy against the hated Jew, eh Urinal?

Mindless, empty threats from a punk as-s terrorist organization, murderers all, probably holding a child up in front of hisself while talking smack to wormy American reporter.

How brave.

By The Corporal

January 4, 2009 7:30 AM | Link to this

To Gary

I doubt that any real soul on this blog has more in-combat time (years) as I -but I don’t talk about it.

Gary: I know you posted this at 2:58am and you may have been a little sleepy but you just talked about it! You just broke your own rule.

Rocks and shoals!

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 4, 2009 7:41 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Campers….

This jumped right ot at me

“Those descriptions of future successful Republicans pretty much match being clones of Norm Coleman”

So, future successful Republicans have to be under invetigation by the FBI?

I thought that was the OLD successful republicans?

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

January 4, 2009 10:10 AM | Link to this

This is truly the first time that we have witnessed the theft of an election in the United States. When all is said and done the numbers will show that the shift to Franken was statistically impossible. Guess its good to have ACORN’s guy running the election.

By sunshine and thunder

January 4, 2009 11:33 AM | Link to this

TAXPAYER

You wrote:

Palin probably can’t even make a great bed or breakfast. She definitely couldn’t make it as a student. Those big words in her text books may have been just too much to overcome. So, how could anyone think that she would make a great president. That is unless Lord Limbaugh tells them that she would be great. Ha. Ha. Ha.

So I guess you know all about Big O’s education, right?

If it is so important to you why did you vote for a guy who’s hidden his college transcripts from the world?

I must say you guys beat everything.

(I hope I didn’t hurt your feelings with this post. I know you are esthetic and altruistic and we must be dainty in posting to you.) LOL.

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 4, 2009 11:54 AM | Link to this

First time election stolen in US!

Yes sir you betcha!

All you actual witnesses to the crime my heart “brakes” for you!

All over Minnesota good God Fearing Lutherans were recruited into the O of O and sold their souls for a few pieces of lutefisk in order to prevent Norm Coleman (snappy dresser - google how he gets his clothes) from being Senator!

Every elected official, every Judge, every appointee…..hopped up on that evil reconstituted dried cod with lye washed down with klug….slipped creamed herring into the hands of doltish folks who slipped tens of thousands of Coleman ballots into microwaves all over the Land of Lakes - never to be found again. Ya! Ya!

Those Nordic types came from the Vikings, and we know those people stole everything not tied down! Goats, Treasure, Longboats, Princesses and elections! Eric The Red was really a pinko!

Forever Limpa bread will be tainted for Republicans.

Woe is me!

OOOOOh! Wooooeeee is me!

Acorn? Maybe the right fringe - and they are the fringe these days - has some nuts of their own (or do they?). Speaking of nuts, does Coulter only have one dress? Isn’t it more than a little strange that it’s always that same outfit?

On a happier and hope-ier note:

Good luck to Sasha and Malia tomorrow. First day, new school, famous dad, high expectatons…good thing they have good and wise parents.

By sunshine and thunder

January 4, 2009 3:18 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Sasha and Malia’s school transcripts will be under seal.

They should demand no less than what their father got.

By Taxpayer

January 4, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this

Palin isn’t educated enough to qualify as Obama’s toilet scrubber. Then again, that’s what makes her so qualified to lead the Limbaugh-Republicans. They need someone immensely more intelligent than themselves and she sure qualifies. All of you Limbaugh-Republicans be sure to vote for Palin every chance you get. Write in her name in every election.

By Mrs.Godzilla

January 4, 2009 3:57 PM | Link to this

Just finished reading the Constitution again and sure enough….

you betcha….

It says right smack dab in the middle of it…We the people of the United State of America do hereby ordain and establish this Constitution to ensure that the college transcripts of Presidential candidates be made available to the public.

Every President ever elected in the good old US of A has disclosed everything ever put on their permanent record.

National archives detail Nixon’s occasional bed wetting, the number of times Ronnie’s mommy had to spank him, Ike and Gerry both swore in the huddle and Bush flunked sentence construction.

It was a need to know thing….and America needed to know!

In the next section it details that all bloggers at the Atlanta Journal Constitution must disclose their tax records, their real weight and if they ever cheated playing Monopoly.

If we don’t know those things - how will we ever be able to trust them?

By "The Corporal"

January 4, 2009 6:21 PM | Link to this

To Mrs. G.

Your 3:57 was pretty humorous to be sure but what ever happened to this part ….

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

By sunshine and thunder

January 4, 2009 9:09 PM | Link to this

TAXPAYER

What is a Limbaugh-Republican?

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