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Great, just great….
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
From the Associated Press:
Pakistan began moving thousands of troops away from the Afghan border toward India on Friday amid tensions following the Mumbai attacks, intelligence officials said.
The move represents a sharp escalation in the standoff between the nuclear-armed neighbors and will hurt Pakistan’s U.S.-backed campaign against al-Qaida and Taliban taking place near Afghanistan’s border.
Two intelligence officials said the army’s 14th Division was being redeployed to Kasur and Sialkot, close to the Indian border. They said some 20,000 troops were on the move. Earlier Friday, a security official said that all troop leave had been canceled.




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Comments
By Bud Wiser
December 26, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Well, this move was only a matter of time, seeing as how the murdering thugs were all Pakistani, weren’t they?
Frankly, I would have figured the Indians to make the first move.
By The BlogFather of Scroll
December 26, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
This is Osama’s new strategy: To use surgical strikes to change the strategic alignment of international forces. Look at 911 that way. Look at the Mumbai attacks that way.
If Osama can affect troop disposition like that, then he is the first terrorist general, and this is a new era in the war on terror.
Even though no link has been proved between Mumbai and Osama, the confidence level in that non-link is near zero.
Those bozos running the war on terror couldn’t predict the outcome of a bowel movement.
Bush is one of those bozos. Bush is the clown prince of those bozos.
Bush: the clueless clown prince of the bozos
By Mort Merkel
December 26, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Hey, just what those terrorists wanted. Way to play into their hands.
By Bud Wiser
December 26, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
BlogFather, the Pakistanis and Indians were at this before you were even born.
You show your complete ignorance of world geo-political history by your rantings. Those folks have been disputing boundaries and religion for decades.
As a true liberal however, you stay true to course blaming Bush for everything from global warming to that water dripping from your faucet, or is it your nose?
What will you do after the coronation, and your nose is still dripping?
By Cheryl
December 26, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Yikes!
By getalife
December 26, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Will Afghanistan and greed cause our collapse too in 2009?
Happy New Year comrades.
By spankmonkey
December 26, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
How dare you blame it on Bush! We all know it’s Obama’s fault, Obama, Blago, and Emanuel, it’s all thier fault.
By sunshine and thunder
December 26, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
None of this is Bush’s fault. Don’t you know?
In the basement of the White House is a control center where secret phone lines are set up along with extreme weather making machines.
So if a need arises for airplanes to fly into American buildings, hurricanes to hit minority populations or war to break out anywhere in the world a simple phone call can make it happen.
Who controls these phones and machines?
Karl Rove of course.
And you all thought he was retired.
By Ray
December 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Nucular, in honor of our sitting president, weapons. The more the Muslims accumulate, the less safe our existence. Playing field leveler…… destroyer of nations and potentially millions of people in the process. The single greatest threat to civilization as we know it. Can you imagine a more terrible disaster to befall our country than a nuclear blast in St. Louis or Chicago? Homeland Security is our most important cabinet position, regardless. All of our present day existence depends on controlling nuclear incidents by terrorists intent on destroying our way of life. We’ve been pretty good at it so far. Lets hope that this lady from Arizona and the Annointed One can keep up Bush’s track record. The downside is unthinkable.
By Mort Merkel
December 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
I was going to comment on Wooten’s blog that I would rent him some spinners for his John Deere’s wheels. But since commenting is snafu’ed on his blog for the 150th time out of the past 350 days, maybe I’ll rent him a blog tech instead.
By Soothsayer
December 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. They say ignorance is bliss. For all who wish to continue in blissful ignorance I urge you not to watch the attached video.
I can tell you this, though, your life will be divided into two halves. The half before and the half after you watch this video.
By Wyld Byll
December 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Now we see the truly ignorant and addled, at the height of BDS, trying to blame this on President Bush. How can one hope to have a serious dialogue about anything with one’ who try’s to blame the Indai/Pakistan friction on POTUS. Deluded and shameful.
On another front, read the letters to the editor section today, as it contains an attack on Jay FROM THE LEFT. Some PETA type hops on Jay’s case because he referred to his pooch as “just a dog.” Ol’ Wyld Byll has to stand up for Jay on this one and cry foul that he would be attacked for acting in the best interests of his pet and family.
By SaveOurRepublic
December 26, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
IMO, the solution is to bring our troops home from the Middle East meat grinder, & let the natives fight it out amongst themselves. There’s no “defending America” in the loss of these many brave soldiers & squandering of billions of taxpayer (fiat) dollars. It’s a pure empire building scheme leveraged by a false-flag op (used as the pretext). Our Republic has long needed to cease these incessent foreign entanglements & (taxpayer funded) aid to other countries!
By Fractional Frank
December 26, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Actually, Soothsayer, the probability that viewing your video will exactly bi-sect someone’s lifespan is very low.
By Soothsayer
December 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
FF: point taken change half to parts
By SaveOurRepublic
December 26, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Soothsayer, are you a vegan or vegetarian? My wife’s a vegetarian.
By Soothsayer
December 26, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
SaveOurRepublic:
Up until the very moment I saw this video, I was a “hearty” meat-eater. Now, however, I’m not so sure.
To set the record straight. I am not against eating meat or slaughtering animals for human consumption.
I am for humane treatment of these animals so they will not suffer needlessly.
By Ray
December 26, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Interesting poll today on who America admires most. USA Today alleges that Obama is the most admired person in the US. States that 30% of Americans consider Mr. Wonderful “the most admired”. What happened to the other 70%? If you figure that 92% of black America voted for him, you could probably assume that they would represent a good portion of that 30%. Then figure the non-black approval which would be somewhere in the 17% range if you subtract 13% from 30%….. then what do you have? A USA Today headline that reads, “Obama: America’s Most Admired”. So much for polls.
By SaveOurRepublic
December 26, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Soothsayer - I’m also a “meat eater” who’s for humane processing of animal. I’ve done a “vegetarian” diet for small periods previously (4-7 days, etc.), but for health reasons. I’m considering trying it again (to help cut cholesterol). However, I’m all for individual choice(s) & take issue with the hypocrisy & leftist leanings of many of these animal advocacy groups (like PETA). I believe the Good Lord gave animals (in part) as a source of food for man, but it should be exercised in moderation & decency. Far too many of these “pro-animal” groups are on par with the Envirofascists & their quasi-eugenics, socialist agenda.
By Wyld Byll
December 26, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
I’ve hunted wolves and caribou from helicopters. The Good Lord gave man dominion over animals. Sure they ought to be harvested so humanely as possible, but these PETA types are way over the top. They’re even after Jay’s hide.
By Joey
December 26, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Bush to blame?? Another theory.
Candidate McCain, Republicans, and President Bush did not succeed in covincing enough voters that the War on Terrorist and Terrorism has protected us and must continue. Nor that Democrats, any Democrat, will weaken our military and make us suseptable to attacks.
With the help of the bulk of our U.S. news media Democrat’s have successfully taken over the Legislative and Executive branchs of government. The campaign retoric, news stories about the candidates, and recent actions by congress have given the Enemies of the U.S. confidence. They are certain that we have lost the will to fight.
Predictions that our enemies will test our resolve are public knowledge. Enemies are preparing plans and will be ready to activate those plans as soon as we show weakness.
What constitutes showing weakness remains a debate.
How will President Obama react? If Obama were to decide to fight, will the Democrat Congress oppose his efforts?
Time will tell. Hang on.
By Bosch
December 26, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Oh Ugh. Why is this our problem? Why can’t we just bring all our troops home, let the Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians, Iraqis, and whoever else duke it out. Maybe some Taliban and al-Qaeda will get killed in the crossfire.
Why, oh, why is this our problem?
By Ray
December 26, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
OIL
By Jake
December 26, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Soothsayer - There’s at least one of and most primitive state would eat you if it could. And it wouldn’t care one iota about the manner in which you died. It’s just food, dude.
By Mike
December 26, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
Just remember. It’s all Bush’s fault and this gives angry people another opportunity to tell us how much they hate him. If Al Gore had won the election in 2000, India and Pakistan would be best friends.
What are the Bush haters going to do with their miserable lives next year? Retroactively blame Bush for anything that happens in the future? How pathetic.
By Wyld Byll
December 26, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
By Bosch 12:10 PM
I guess the folks who go to church on Saturday should be happy that your view did not carry the days during the 1940s. America is the world’s last best hope and we have to exert our influence to keep things on track.
By Bosch
December 26, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Cows are dumb and meant to be eaten, pigs too.
And as I told Midori the other night, preferably between a buttered bun, with ketchup, mustard, pickles, cheese, and mayo.
By Bosch
December 26, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Wild Byl,
No we don’t, and I’m all for letting someone else be the last great hope. We’ve done our time - and it’s sent our country into a Depression down spiral.
Sometimes you have to let others fight their own battles and realize for themselves that war isn’t all that grand.
By catlady
December 26, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
What are the Bush haters going to do with their miserable lives next year? Retroactively blame Bush for anything that happens in the future? How pathetic.
Just as the right has done for years to Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. How pathetic that you don’t recognize it.
By Bosch
December 26, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
I’m all for being Switzerland-ish.
By SaveOurRepublic
December 26, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Bosch @ 12:27 PM - Right on. I’d go one step further & say we’ve “wasted” our time, soldier’s lives & billions of taxpayer dollars on this quagmire for the Globalist Elite. We need to get out the business of playing “Global Police” & foreign funding/support. Let these nations fend for themselves & let’s cut Government empowerment & their mass spending!
By Soothsayer
December 26, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Dear Jake and Bosch:
Please indicate if you have or have not watched this video.
Somehow I don’t believe you have.
By Bosch
December 26, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
SaveOur Republic,
Exactly. I’m going to go eat a hamburger.
By Jake
December 26, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Sorry - line got dropped - at least one of those animals, the hog, which in its wildest and most primitive….. On topic - We can’t be Switzerland because we have more than a bunch of mountains and a couple of chocolate recipes that the rest of the world envies and wants. Isolationism is no longer possible and there are many threats we must deal with as best as possible. Just like the wild hogs, there are a lot of people in the world that would kill us if they could, particulary the islamofacists that believe in converting or killing everyone else or dying while trying!
By Bosch
December 26, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Soothsayer,
I have worked on a farm before. Who produced your video?
I have read “The Jungle” before - yuck.
By The Corporal
December 26, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Never fear Jay.
Aytch will have this cleared up his first day on the job.
All you have to do is just sit down and talk to people and everything will be hunky-dory!
How do I know? It promised it during the campaign. I can’t wait.
By The Corporal
December 26, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Excuse me: He promised it ……
By The BlogFather of Scroll
December 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Bush allowed Osama to escape. Now we have a cockroach who shouldn’t be there, and which apparently has evolved into a strategic mastermind. To have affected the removal of troops who were crowding him like that borders on evil genius.
Pakistan would not have moved those troops and their systematic flushing of the region for terrorists would probably have dislodged OBL into the open and we may have been rid of him. If there is a link between Al Queda’s masterplan and this Mumbai attack, then we are really in for it. This is an escalation in strategic prowess that only a mutated cockroack could achieve. A cockroach that shouldn’t be there.
We had him.. We had OBL surrounded. Bush ordered Rummy 2 attack and destroy him. Rummy refused the order because Cheney realized that if OBL were destroyed, then Iraq’s Invasion would be impossible.
This is treason at the highest level. I formally charge Bush and Cheney and Rummy with this conspiracy of treason.
By SaveOurRepublic
December 26, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
Jake @ 12:42 PM - Contrary to the Macheveliian propaganda of the RINO/Neocons, non-interventionism (combined with protectionism) does indeed work & was embraced by Founding Fathers such as George Washington & Thomas Jefferson. Those who gain the most from war are the Central Bankers (who often fund both sides), arms/munitions manufacturers, etc…NOT the American people. Legendary USMC Maj.General Smedley Butler summed up those who profit from war quite nicely in his book “War is a Racket”.
“Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.” - Thomas Jefferson
“(Our Republic) goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.” - John Quincy Adams
By GOP is gone
December 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYbFQFXG0U) [All right guys, watch this video if you would like to see a nice animal story, and we really are not the top of the food chain without a weapon]
By GOP is gone
December 26, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYbFQFXG0U) [All right guys, watch this video if you would like to see a nice animal story, and we really are not the top of the food chain without a weapon]
By getalife
December 26, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Steve J. at Radamisto notices that even though Barack Obama hasn’t even been sworn in yet, Sean Hannity is organizing the wingnuts already into a would-be force to attempt to stop him from enacting “radical” policies:
Well, not very patriotic.
By Jake
December 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
SaveOurRepublic - I’d like to think that after Gulf 1 didn’t work very well we thought we’d try the occupational approach that worked rather well with Japan and Germany. Unfortunately, this isn’t working real well either, although we haven’t had another 9/11 and the oil is flowing pretty consistently so it’s not a total failure either. As for the founding fathers they were all merchant class revolutionaries that rebelled against the legal authority because their financial interests were threathened, much like the South did 100 years later. All that high and noble crap was mostly spin to try and legitimize their illegal acts of treason, declaring men to have an inaleinable right to freedom, words written by a slaveholder who obviously didn’t even consider his slaves to be men, for example. Lastly, isolationism might have been possible when men roamed the world in sailing vessels but it can’t work today.
By Jake
December 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Soothsayer - I’m not without compassion, but the fact remains these are not god’s creatures or creations. They exist for the sole/soul porpose of being fattened, slaughtered and eaten by man. Now I know of one type of livestock that is very humanely treated, served beer, massaged, and then humanely slaughtered. It is know worldwide as Kobe beef. The problem is because of the process it costs about $40 a pound and is not economically viable for feeding 7.5 billion people!
By Wyld Byll
December 26, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Bosch 12:27 PM
Like I said before, “I guess the folks who go to church on Saturday should be happy that your view did not carry the days during the 1940s.”
As Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing.” I would rather live a a world were good seeks to triumph rather than a world where there is no good because the righteous few loose standing by hiding behind rocks. The problem with the liberal line of thought (using that pharse loosely) is that it ignores reality, had Bush not invaded Iraq the world would not necessarily been safer or better (as is the liberal gospel).
By The Corporal
December 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Jake
The Union Congress in 1865 was clamoring for Jefferson Davis and many others to be tried for treason and hung.
Why weren’t they?
Scroll down for the answer:
1) The Attorney General and two appointed special prosecutors all declined to bring charges as they felt Davis, et al would be acquitted in a court of law. In other words, succession was not an act of treason (the New England states almost did it during the War of 1812 over their support for England) and nothing would have been worse for the Union than to have won an unnecessary terrible war and then lost in court.
2) Regarding the founding of our country, may I recommend The 10 Biggest Lies About America by Michael Medved. You owe it to yourself to investigate further.
By Midori
December 26, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
[HAHAHAHAHAHA]{http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/081224/bors.jpg)
Librul Stomper???
ROFL!!!
By Jake
December 26, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Corporal - I think rebelling against the crown was treasonous in 1776. As for the civil war I dislike the Lincoln many recognize as one of our best presidents. To the contrary he was one of the worst! The states that voluntarily joined the union should have had the right to voluntarily secede. Lincoln was wrong, and the county was torn apart for more than a hundred years and at least 600,000 died for nothing. I’ll look into the Medved, thanks, but I hope his book is better than his movie reviews!
By Soothsayer
December 26, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
Jake @ 2:12:
Sorry I had to go out for a while.
At the risk of beating this topic to death. The question is not whether or not animals should be slaughtered for food. I agree with you on that. The question is can we do it a humane (i.e., where the animal feels no pain) manner rather than the systematically inhumane manner we now use.
By Pogo
December 26, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
America cannot save the worlds populace from themselves no more than we Americans can save ourselves from our own politicians (whom we elect). Greed, corruption and the two party political system is going to be our downfall. When the electorate learns that it can vote itself a free check, democracy is over. That is where we are at now. The only thing is, democracy is walking out the door along with capitalism. Where the hell is the check going to come from? New Deal, indeed.
By SaveOurRepublic
December 26, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Pogo - well said! The “two” parties are flip-sides of the same (Globalist Elite controlled) coin. They’re 2 divisions of the same Internationalist minded “party”. It’s a smokescreen meant to dupe the populace into thinking there’s a legitimate “choice” between 2 (controlled) sides. This is a one of many control mechanisms the Elite use to to “pacify” the sheeple (other methods include the mindless fluff & propaganda on the “Hellivision”).
http://www.infowars.com
By AJC/DNC Management
December 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Yeah, we won’t have the Pakistani army around to whine and moan when we blow up terrorists.
Terrible, isn’t it?
By The Corporal
December 26, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
Jake
You and I agree on one thing !
Lincoln
You must read “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas DiLorenzo !!