Jay Bookman

By AJC/DNC Management

December 11, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

We know what you want but look at what we are going to get-

BLAGOSPHERE: ‘OPEN GOVERNMENT’ SITE CENSORS QUESTIONS…

Spin, spin, spin criminals.

By getalife

December 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

He is on a roll:

CHICAGO (AP) — With cheers and chants that echoed President-elect Barack Obama’s campaign of change, jubilant workers agreed to a $1.75 million settlement that ends their six-day occupation of a shuttered Chicago factory that became a symbol of the plight of labor nationwide. Republic Windows & Doors, union leaders and Bank of America reached the deal Wednesday evening. Each former Republic employee will get eight weeks’ salary, all accrued vacation pay and two months’ paid health care, said U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, who helped broker the deal. He said it works out to about $7,000 apiece. “We lost the jobs but we got something,” said Lalo Munoz, who worked at the plant for 24 years.

Victory!

By AJC/DNC Management

December 11, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

I’m just curious but why would you deny this-

One report out of Chicago suggested the possible tipster was Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s pick for chief of staff and a potential conduit for any communications from Blagojevich’s office to Obama. But Emanuel’s office has denied that story.-Politico

Isn’t this something you would want to use to burnish your anti corruption credentials?

It wouldn’t make a rat’s as-s difference to any ongoing investigations.

Waz up, barry?

By getalife

December 11, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

He should make Fitz corruption Czar to scare them straight.

By mike hussein smith

December 11, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Who do you blame for the Mission Accomplished fiasco — yourself or those pesky sailors who put the sign up?

Oops, sorry. That other blog was more fun.

By JAY BOOKMAN

December 11, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

There’s a pretty simple answer, Management. I’m surprised you didn’t think of it.

Obama’s people denied the story even though it cast them in a good light … because it wasn’t true!

Can you imagine such a thing?

By Midori

December 11, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Now Jay,

why do you wanna go and do that?

Who is gonna clean up the mess now that his head has exploded?

By Bosch

December 11, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Midori!

You made my day although you did it last night with your what would you ask Bush questions.

I laughed so hard this morning after reading your posts from that thread that I almost threw up egg biscuit.

By "The Corporal"

December 11, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Jay

I agree with you on this one.

1) I have seen nothing regarding any criminality on the part of Obama.

2) The first time I see that they are crawfishing, talk to my attorney or subpoenas are required I will change my mind.

3) He promised transparency.

4) Will he deliver?

By AJC/DNC Management

December 11, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Head explode?

If it isn’t true and Blago did throw his Senate Seat sales pitch at Rhamen then that would mean that the Oblahmi transition team knowingly failed to disclose the commission of a felony.

Hmmmmmm.

By "The Corporal"

December 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

P.S.

Jay

Shouldn’t that same transparency also include the hospital he was born in?

Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center?

By Class of '98

December 11, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

For a supposed genius, saviour and messiah, this dude is a TERRIBLE judge of character.

He spent considerable amounts of time associating with Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, and Blago, yet he found them all to be wholesome, kind, caring, honest individuals and confidants.

Yeah right.

By Copyleft

December 11, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

I look forward to another eight years of perpetual fishing and investigating of a successful Democratic president.

Shows you how empty the right has become of any ideas of their own.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

December 11, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Got promoted a few years back. I remember exactly how it went. Told my boss who he should put in my recently vacated position and he told me that since I was moving on I had no input into my replacement. How hard is it for Obama to cover his interaction and why does it take time to release the contacts. Call your team around the table, tell ‘em to fess up to all contacts, and tell ‘em there fired if anything to the contrary comes up later. This is a five minute process that PEOTUS’ lawyers will obsfucate on. Well, at least his behavior is no worse that Candidate 5/Jackson, who lawyered up to protest his innocence. Young Jesse, surely thou dost lawyer up too much.

By "The Corporal"

December 11, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC

Unfortunately, to be prosecuted for Federal misprison of a felony it has to be more than just knowing about it.

You have to commit an overt act of concealment.

By mm

December 11, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

If you wingnuts want indictments, wait until the Bush administration is out of office. The Feds will be gathering up the incompetent Bush cronies for weeks/months.

Corporal,

Why are you so cencerned about Obama meeting the constitutional requirement of being a natural born citizen? Where was your concern the last 8 years when Bush trampled on the constitution?

By AJC/DNC Management

December 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

And I am quite confident that no representatives of mine would have had any part in any deals related to this seat.

Gee, I wonder who will be tossed over the side for this?

“Quite confident” in pinko speak is comfort talk for the dullards with out a total commitment from the person spewing the lie.

And knowing these people, especially when they say “representatives of mine,” somebody has already got caught but the cover up is not yet complete.

CYA barry.

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

When is the expected relaese of the contacts?

Is it days, weeks, months, years.

How long does this process take?

By "The Corporal"

December 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

To mm

Then why wasn’t he impeached?

To Wyld Byll

Yes, it is very interesting that Jesse Jackson, Jr. denied anything and then lawyered up and refused to answer questions.

Therefore, he is on my suspect list.

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Was jesse Jackson Jr a representative of Obama’s or just a member of the campaign?

By mm

December 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

Then why wasn’t he impeached?

Because the Dems didn’t have enough votes because the crooked Republicans were covering his @ss.

You and Management just go ahead and worry yourselves silly over Obama. You both are already candidates for a straight jacket.

By getalife

December 11, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Jay’s tin foil hat blog is hilarious.

Oh, the conspiracies!

Ha!

By Taxpayer

December 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Wow, all this talk about the Jackson 5 being resurrected. This should be quite the Thriller. Almost as boring as the Right Wing alien birthplace conspiracies. I’ll take Alpha Centauri for 100, Alex.

By Swami Dave

December 11, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

So far, there has been no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Obama or his staff & they have publicly stated as such. Until something to the contrary surfaces, it is best to reserve judgement until the investigation is finished. His promise of cooperation (as well as that of Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.) are positive steps to reaching a quick & proper conclusion.

My biggest questions are focused at two levels.

First, in the taped conversations, Blago is reported to have been angered that Obama & his staff were unwilling to participate in his scheme. Usually, if I know someone will not do something that I want (through knowledge of their character or principles), I am annoyed that I know the answer before I ask (and am therefore wasting my time asking). I only get angry if I get a refusal when asking for something that I have an expectation of getting. Annoyance is a typical response to things that you never expect to get; anger is usually reserved for unmet expectations.

But hey, maybe he is a delusional, self-absorbed lunatic who actually expected everyone to grovel and elevate him in exchange for his appointment.

That does lead to my second concern, which I find the most disturbing. If Blago is of this poor character, is he another in this growing list of “associates” who exhibited ridiculous attitudes & behaviors that went unnoticed by Obama (in some cases for decades)? The question is truly did he (a) recognize these traits in these individuals over the time they associated and simply overlooked them while they could serve his ascent and acquisition of power -or- (b) somehow fail to recognize their ethical / moral problems and was largely duped by them?

Personally, I find this the more damaging question because neither answer is good. If (a), then we are describing behavior that condones poor behavior because it serves his own personal political interests. If (b), then the image of a “cognitive, thinking, wise, visionary leader” who has wisdom in judgement and discernment is a complete illusionary ruse.

Again, neither bodes well for our country facing the challenges that we will be addressing over the next few years.

-Swami Dave

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, Without getting all riled up. Are there any issues that concern democrats that yo do think deserve further investigation into, I am not saying this one does or does not?

But what if any issues are people allowed to question about Obama without you accusing them of wearing a tin foil hat or some other prepubescent put-down?

By "The Corporal"

December 11, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

To mm

Then you make my point. The system worked. Get over it.

Obama is the next President.

He will get his time under the microscope and we’ll see how he and you like it.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

You want to talk about delusional-

First, in the taped conversations, Blago is reported to have been angered that Obama & his staff were unwilling to participate in his scheme. Usually, if I know someone will not do something that I want (through knowledge of their character or principles), I am annoyed that I know the answer before I ask (and am therefore wasting my time asking).

O.K. so Blago is either a criminal or a stark raving lunatic, so which character trait did Oblahmi totally miss?

Or are you going to tell us that Oblahmi campaigning on behalf of Blago was just a fictional cartoon world that we were all seeing?

Duh.

By Taxpayer

December 11, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

tcoach,

If you didn’t want me to get all “riled up”, then why did you make such blatantly false (that’s fancy talk for lie) claims about my referring to anyone as a tinfoil hat wearer. We all know that you guys wear aluminum foil due to its more desirable physical properties such as lighter weight and ease of forming to fit the most discerning chrome dome. Regarding the “prepubescent put-down”, would you be referring to the need for additional lessons in potty training that is so readily apparent in many Republicans or some other issue? Please try to be more specific.

By mm

December 11, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Hey wingnuts. Leave the investigating to the Feds.

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

I am sorry that this is off topic, but how has this not been a topic on one of the forums:

Judge cites boy’s ‘raging hormones,’ reduces woman’s sentence for sex with teen By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Wednesday, Dec. 10, 2008

NASHUA – A 38-year-old woman was sentenced to prison Monday for sexually assaulting a teenage boy she initially accused of rape.

Robin Mowery of Nashua was convicted in June of four counts of felonious sexual assault and two counts of sexual assault involving a friend of her teenage daughter. Mowery was 35 at the time; the boy was 15.

Prosecutors wanted her to serve 8 1/2 to 21 years behind bars, but Hillsborough County Superior Court Judge Robert Lynn handed down a lesser sentence of two to four years. She will receive credit for 180 days already served.

“Like it or not, an underage boy having sex with an older-aged girl is viewed differently than the other way around,” Lynn said at the sentencing hearing.

Lynn said he weighed the extent of the teen’s victimization against how aggressively the boy pursued Mowery.

“Young men have raging hormones. It doesn’t make him a bad person,” said Lynn, who also noted that the teen also tried to use the relationship as a “bargaining chip” to escape penalty for crimes committed as a juvenile.

Lynn also chastised Mowery for falsely testifying that the teen forced her to have sex at knifepoint. She also claimed he threatened to rape and kill her daughter if she spoke about their affair.

“That was complete baloney,” the judge said.

Mowery’s lawyer, Adam Cook, asked the judge to consider his client incompetent and strike the verdict. Mowery’s parents and sister echoed his claims that Mowery is mentally ill and needs help, but the judge said a doctor had found her competent.

Mowery’s sister, Jaime Manning, said the divorce of their parents and abusive relationships caused Mowery to concoct elaborate stories.

Assistant County Attorney Patricia LaFrance said prosecutors are reviewing Mowery’s testimony for untruths and could pursue more charges. The teen’s father also addressed the judge, saying the assaults changed his son and that he worries that further emotional problems will surface when he’s older.

I know it is Bill O’Reilly but how is this not sexism, and why are feminist not protesting in outrage?

By Midori

December 11, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

LOL, Bosch - that was one “fun” thread :)

Notice how the wingnuts who freely throw out racist and disgusting names for Obama all of a sudden get all pious and “politically correct” when someone states the obvious about Commander Bunnypants?

Glad you liked them :)

By AmVet

December 11, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Already the reality challenged wackos of the still hemorrhaging GOP have spent more time obsessing over this Illinois DINO clown than they did over ALL of the innumerable offenses of the most serially impeachable president in US history.

Take a hint clowns, your collective cred’s in the toilet. And no rational American gives a damn about any of your 2nd birth certificates on grassy knoll lunacy.

Nor do they care a whit about your irrational loathing for the mulatto.

That’s what eight straight years of rah rahing and enabling criminals and f&ckups does for ya.

You’re better off trying to convince the bulk of the educated world that there is no global warming. At least there’s some comedic relief in that…

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

typical taxpayer, don’t worry with answering the question.

Usually from my experience with children when they go way off topic and “try” to be funny, they usually do not know the answer or they are embarrassed to say what they think.

Guess we all know which one you fall into.

“side note”— prepubescent, refers to the ages immediately prior to puberty. At this age most are potty trained. The age group you were looking for was toddler.

I agree that you are smarter than a toddler, as are your insults, your parents must be proud.

I also see that it is raining today. Which republican is to blame for this.

What a prejudice life you must live, must be quit burdonsome.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 11, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

By AmVet December 11, 2008 2:01 PM Take a hint clowns, your collective cred’s in the toilet. And no rational American gives a damn about any of your 2nd birth certificates on grassy knoll lunacy.

Then why are you foaming?

Where’s da birth certificate at?

By Abomi Nation

December 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

You want to talk about delusional, google “Palin Support Stevens.”

As recently as 2005 Palin served as the director of “Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service” 527 group. You know, the Senator(R) recently convicted of 7 felonies.

Funny, Palin never called for Stevens to resign. Of course Obama made it clear immediately that Blago should resign. Palin’s connection to Sen Stevens are a hell of a lot closer than Obama’s are to Blago.

Will you join me AJC/DNC in calling for the resignation of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin?

“Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service”… LMAO!

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Abomi, Be factual both her and McCain said he should resign.

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Does anyone know why it took so long for Axelrod to retract his statement that Obama had spoken directly to Blago?

Sounds like the advisor needs some advice in telling the truth.

By Taxpayer

December 11, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Awww,

tcoach must be feeling down today. Him think that him hurt Taxpayer. Him not thinking clearly.

OK, tcoach, let’s take a ride down memory lane but not too far — just a few posts back — and let’s see if we can get to the root of your animosity and deal with it just a little, OK? Let’s start with my post about the Jackson 5, shall we. You see, I was making a funny by doing a little play with words. The Jackson 5 was a band and we currently have this issue with a Jackson who is known as candidate number 5. It’s a thriller because of all the suspense associated with the “he said / no, he said”, stuff being thrown around but it is linked to the Jackson 5 because Michael Jackson, the lead singer, went on to produce Thriller — probably his best work ever. I would go on to tell you about how “Right Wing” but not “West Wing” ties in to this and how alien can refer to “not of the earth” or “not Bruce Springstein”, i.e., “not Born In The USA” but I sense that you do not like my humor. Oh well. I’ll try to not let that hurt my feelings if you will promise to do the same. Will you promise.

By Abomi Nation

December 11, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

tcoach you are correct, she asked him to resign only after he was found guilty.

The point I poorly tried to make is that Obama asked Blago to resign immediately. Palin supported Stevens up to the point of his conviction.

O.K. so Stevens is a criminal and stark raving lunatic, so which character trait did Palin totally miss?

By AmVet

December 11, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Andy, like I said, just keep trying to sell the rest of the world on your climatology expertise.

I can always use a good laugh.

Whether you like his work or not, Oliver Stone was spot on with this assessment: “the outgoing U.S. president is a man with a giant ego and boneheaded arrogance.”

And the bonehead’s swansong plays in less than six weeks.

I can assure you the nation will party like it was VJ day again…

By Joey

December 11, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

The person I would like to see come clean about this is Ghost-President-Elect Emanual.

But he has already established his alibi with the media by being credited as the whistle-blower.

Maybe the Journal-Constitution Investigative Unit can take this on. Ha!

By AJC/DNC Management

December 11, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

This message has not been approved by the Obama Transition Team so it was censored, er, deleted.

Geez.

By Swami Dave

December 11, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Management:

I will assume that your question is pointed to the unnamed “you” among Obama’s supporters and not to me. Your responses were the basis for my second point (“question”) which arises if one accepts the “we-only-noticed-this-now” defense.

I agree that the investigation needs to progress prior to conclusions being drawn, but I likewise agree that this raises (or enforces existing) concerns / questions around Obama.

-Swami Dave

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

taxpayer again, keep changing subjects when you know you are beat.

I was asking a question about his role in the Obama team. Did not even read your post about Jackson 5.

I wanted to know what evidence you have to show that we are uncivialized.

You have none so you run and make personal comments about me and say I am this and I am that.

Its fine the obvious is not hard to see and it is easy to see that you have no facts or even life experience to back up your claim.

Just keep spouting your far fetched opinins and maybe someone without much education may take it as fact and think you are knowledgable.

For the rest of us though it is business as usual with you , lie, state an opinion as fact, lie to cover up then when that fails change topic quick.

By tcoach

December 11, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

I did not question that, just wanted it to be factual. Your second post was I have no problem.

Also for the record you will not hear me ranting and raving about Obama’s judge of charecter.

I think he knows their charecter and does not care he is just using those people on both sides for his own gain.

Just as any good politician would.

By Taxpayer

December 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

tcoach, you are just plain shameless with your statements of so-called fact. If you persist, I’ll feel compelled to start correcting your misspelled words and correcting your lies and all sorts of things that you just might get your panties in a bigger wedgie over.

By sunshine and thunder

December 11, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

JAY

You wrote:

Obama’s people denied the story even though it cast them in a good light … because it wasn’t true!

Can you imagine such a thing?

After the way you people treated George Bush for the past 8 years?

Anything’s possible.

By "The Corporal"

December 11, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Question;

Will top advisors to Aytch be called before a grand jury very early in his administration.

If so, I hope they look up the word perjury first. That’s what can get you every time. Federal judges don’t like perjury.

Don’t try to save someone else’s skin - think about your family and yourself.

If you have nothing to hide - tell the truth.