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The other 20 percent post on this blog

I’m sure numbers like these won’t last once Obama takes office and has to actually start implementing decisions and making people angry. However, they do represent an awful lot of political capital that if used wisely can help him accomplish a lot, and quickly.

From CNN:

WASHINGTON (CNN) — With six weeks before taking office, President-elect Barack Obama is having one heck of a honeymoon, a new national poll suggests. A new CNN poll gives Barack Obama a 79 percent approval rating in the way he’s handling the transition.

Nearly eight in 10 Americans questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey out Tuesday morning are giving the president-elect the thumbs up when it comes to his handling of the transition.

Obama’s approval rating is 14 points higher than the approval rating for President-elect George Bush in 2001 and 17 points higher than President-elect Clinton’s rating in 1992, CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said.

“An Obama job approval rating of 79 percent — that’s the sort of rating you see when the public rallies around a leader after a national disaster,” said Bill Schneider, CNN’s senior political analyst. “To many Americans, the Bush administration was a national disaster.”

The Democratic Party continues to be much more popular than the GOP. Six in 10 have a favorable view of the Democratic Party, while a majority have an unfavorable opinion of the Republican Party.

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By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

But, Jay, Obama does have a national disaster to clean up — the aftermath of Tsunami Bush and his unregulated Republicans.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

“An Obama job approval rating of 79 percent — that’s the sort of rating you see when the public rallies around a leader after a national disaster,”

and that disaster has a name: George W. Bush.

By Class of '98

December 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer and Midori -

Do either of you even bother to finish reading the blog before frantically scribbling your ever-so-witty replies?

Did either of your even see the sentence that quotes the CNN guy saying “To many Americans, the Bush administration was a national disaster.” ?

Good freaking grief. Freaking parrots.

By sunshine and thunder

December 9, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

JAY

Nice poll considering that nobody has much of a clue what Obama’s doing during the transition - other than hiring Clinton retreads.

What is he doing? Anyone, anyone, Bueller?

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Pride goeth before a fall

By getalife

December 9, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

79 percent are hoping he can save our country in crisis.

The rest are w’s base waiting on the rapture.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

It appears Class has nothing to add to this conversation — other than more juvenile, brain dead, sniveling attacks.

I do hope you don’t get a nasty cut living in that glass house.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

So, Class of ‘98, what’s wrong with confirming that we are amongst the “many”. Besides, I wanted to make sure that those other Republicans get credit for this disaster as well. I take it you are amongst that other 20 percent that Jay was talking about. Good grief. Will you ever learn — Bad GOP, Bad. Clever, Huh. It’s even modeled after those silly Republican chants such as Drill Baby, Drill. Try it. You’ll pick it up in no time, no time at all. Bad GOP, Bad.

By Ray

December 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

The honeymoon will soon be over for Buckwheat. Give him about 6 mos. The news today about his buddy in the governors office says volumes about Illinois politics and this has been Obamas political home for a long time. His pastor, his political associates….. nothing but Chicago precinct politics. No one in Illinois is a Republican so the libs have no one to blame but themselves. Even Midori can’t dodge this one. Jessie Jackson Jr., Dick Durbin, this in the bag governor, his Lt. Governor…… all Daly political machine liberals with power and money at the head of the list. The FBI spokesman said today that there might be a more corrupt state in the union but he does not know where it its. It even surpasses New Orleans. Wow. This dude even wanted to sell the Senate seat for profit. Who says that liberals are not entrepreneurs? Maybe this dude and Cold Cash Jefferson can share a cell together.

By Abomi Nation

December 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

“To many Americans, the Bush administration was a national disaster.”

Liberal media?????????? That statement has Bush love oozing out of it. Damn you CNN.

To the vast majority of Americans, the Bush administration has been a complete and total disaster, the very definition of incompetence and an embarrassment that will take years to get over.

Fixed.

By AmVet

December 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

He selected Gen. Eric Shinseki to head the VA.

That alone is noteworthy and almost certainly great news. At least for us vets.

If for no other reason than it represents forward and intelligent thinking by the new administration.

The very antithesis of BushCo.

01-20-09 The End of a National Disaster

By Ray

December 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Bookman,.

Do a piece on the Illinois governor. We are all waiting.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Ray, there’s already a post from Jay on that crook.

By GodHatesTrash

December 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

The National Disaster that is George Dumbya Bush

Lucko posted this ages ago….

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

I know that media types can be quite vain, but I seriously doubt anything remotely resembling 60,000,000 people are posting to this blog.

Frankly I don’t even think it’s 60.

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

To Ray

Don’t hold your breath. The Drudge Report will but not the Fair and Balanced AJC.

By DB, Gwinnettian

December 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

The hell? Ray, he posted on the topic earlier today.

And stop with that racist “Buckwheat” sh!t.

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

To DB, Gwinnettian

To be sure he did but the focus was on those poor, poor editiorial writers.

Boo, hoo………

I’m still waiting to hear what he thinks of his hero Lincoln (who Obama has been compared to) who put all of those Northern editors in jail instead of just trying to get them fired.

By Ray

December 9, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer,

He was just indicted today. If the dude had been a Repub governor, Bookman would have burned up the airways to ridicule his sorry a**. We need a good exchange on Chicago politics. Some down and dirty stuff, you know, like evil Bush bashing.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

I’m wondering, Ray: who is this black woman (or man) who won’t have anything to do with you?

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

Fake polls, blah, blah, blah-

The first Oblahmi video address, released four weekends ago, drew 789,868 viewers over its first three days and is nearing 1 million total, according to TubeMogul’s figures. But the second video was viewed 451,077 times in three days, Thanksgiving weekend’s video garnered 152,222 views, and this weekend’s fourth installment had about 370,000 views as of Monday evening.

Just imagine all of the dullards tuning in that first weekend, expecting to see the Wee Wittle Wizard, performing smoke and magic for the dim of mind, but thee disappointment when Wonder Boy turned out to be just another gasbag broken promise maker.

And so they shall MoveOn in search of newer and more shiny little blowhards.

And maybe even grow up and vote Republican, bwahahaha.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

I thought Jay was very thoughtful to dedicate this post to those poor, poor 20 percent that still don’t have a clue.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

Oh what a tangled web we weave-

Axelrod Flashback: ‘I know he’s talked to the governor and there are whole range of names’…

An Obama aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, took back David Axelrod’s remark last month that Barack Obama and Rod Blagojevich had spoken recently.

“What the president-elect said today is correct, David Axelrod misspoke,” the aide said.

Obama said today the men had not spoken.

Why of course he didn’t talk to the Governor of Illinois, a fellow Chicagoan, about his former Senate seat, I’ll bet he didn’t even care about.

Hell with it, put a Repug in there, is what I recall hearing Oblahmi say.

Yes indeed.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

Ray,

I suppose Jay could comment endlessly on Democrats if he wanted to but what would Wooten do for AJC. Are you suggesting that Jay put Wooten’s job at risk. Ray!!!! How could you suggest such a thing! I’m appalled!!!!

By DB, Gwinnettian

December 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Consider too, Taxpayer, that Wooten’s hours have already been cut. Why, they roll up the sidewalks at his joint around 5pm!

By getalife

December 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Alfafa,

Take it up with wingnut wooten.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer: You may want to check out the results of the last couple of elections, the ones that Acorn and the pinkkko media didn’t orchestrate, you know, the actual, real results when real people pull the lever.

And pull the lever only once.

Seems as though there is a LOT of 20% percenters out there.

By GayGrayGeek

December 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

getalife @ 6:28 - Are they waiting on The Rapture (wasn’t that a song by Blondie back when I was in college?), or waiting on Son-Of-Jor’El’s Kryptonian Birth Certificate?

GGG, tonight enjoying a nice Canadian beer while watching the wingnuts bloviate…

By @@

December 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

Does this sound familiar?

(Source: Chicago Tribune)trackingSPRINGFIELD, Ill. _ In his first inaugural address, before a crowd of thousands, Gov. Rod Blagojevich railed against a “system of corruption that has become too commonplace, too accepted and too entrenched.”

“You voted for change,” said Blagojevich, the state’s first Democratic governor in 26 years. “I intend to deliver it.”

If what federal prosecutors alleged Tuesday is true, the 40th governor of Illinois failed his promise spectacularly.

PrezE Obama has failed to keep his promises too.

That’s what plenty on the left are saying anyway.

About the contradiction in whether OBlahMa did or did not speak to Blagojevich……either OBlahMa’s lying or he’s appointed a stupid political advisor.

Those are the only two choices. Wait a minute, there’s a third………….

On the Chicago TV show “Public Affairs with Jeff Berkowitz” on June 27, 2002, state Sen. Obama said, “Right now, my main focus is to make sure that we elect Rod Blagojevich as Governor, we…”

“You working hard for Rod?” interrupted Berkowitz.

???“You betcha,” ??? said Obama.

“Hot Rod?” asked the host.

“That’s exactly right,” Obama said.

Senator OBlahMa’s judgment was flawed. But then we already knew that before he was elected.

By sunshine and thunder

December 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

JAY

I ask again. The poll claims that 80% of “voters” approve of Obama’s transition.

How do you/we/CNN define “transition”. What is he doing to execute that transition? Anyone?

Nah. Nobody knows. What a great poll! Everybody loves the incoming president and nobody knows why. LOL.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, “global warming-“

Forecaster Cameron Venable is seeing very cold temperatures in the Los Angeles areas as well. Torrance is not usually known for winter weather, thus making this an interesting event for Venable to track.

“Temperatures in Siberia, Russia will be -81 degrees this week, “said Martin. “With those type of temperatures the arctic air mass has to spill somewhere. Our answer of the exact track will become more clear this week. All residents in the mountain communities should prepare this week for very cold, winter weather, with snow.”

Crackpots.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

The obvious answer that has been completely ignored in this Illinois Governor issue is that Blagojevich is actually a closet Republican. He probably just ran on the Democrat ticket because he knew that would get him elected. As a matter of fact, he’s likely a mole for the Republican party. He probably received one of those phone calls where a particular word or phrase is heard and that triggers his “program” to do some really stupid things in order to try and give the Democrats a black eye. Those Republicans and their conspiracies — what is this world coming to.

By Ray

December 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

Did any of you libs listen to the audio transcripts that the FBI recorded from this moron’s office and home telephones? Even Durbin was contrite in saying that there has never been an instance, in the history of American politics, when a sitting governor has essentially offered a Senate seat up for sale. He parlayed this seat for an ambassadorship, a high profile union job ot a job in the new administration. This idiot ran on a ticket of moral reform, cleaning up the established party machine, making Illinois a standout state as to doing the right thing…. right. And Buckwheat is a product of this type of politics, learned it from the experts and more than once, has demonstrated that he was schooled very well. We can only hope that this country survives the next four years and wakes up to what a clown this idiot really is.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

@@,

Our leftist friends have been telling us for months that saying you betcha instantly brands you as an incompetent dunce.

I bet it’s suddenly become a symbol of how cool a politician is.

By JAY BOOKMAN

December 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

I thought some things everybody could figure out on their own, sunshine. My mistake.

Transition?

Naming Cabinet officers, that’s one thing. Most people seem to think he has done a damn fine job of that.

Trying to reassure the markets and Main Street that assistance is coming, that he’ll take office Jan. 20 prepared to move quickly. Most people also think he’s done a good job of that.

Handling the transition between himself and President Bush, a task that Bush to his credit has also handled with grace. The American people believe Obama has navigated those treacherous waters rather well, apparently. On issues from Pakistan to the auto bailout, he has spoken intelligently and in a manner most Americans have found reassuring, without trying to usurp the authority that must remain in the hands of the current president.

It seems to me that everybody else understands the concept of transition pretty well, sunshine. Maybe you just missed class that day?

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer: Why do you steal my theory about Larry Craig?

Have you no originality?

By Bud Wiser

December 9, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

So the Guv was interested in selling a US Senator seat?

Big Deal.

Bet he heard how much Hillary was asking for hers in NY. Since the Kennedy name was tossed about so much, it must be a lot.

My nominee for her spot has already been documented. For you public education products, I shall remind you:

By Bud Wiser

December 6, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Retired Oakland Raiders tackle Lincoln Kennedy would make perhaps the ultimate Democratic Senator from New York to replace Hillary.

By their party standards, he has the following *qualifications:

Name: what could possibly surpass his name?? Lincoln and Kennedy in the same man!

Heritage: African American.

Notable highlights: named to two consecutive Pro Bowls (three career), and anchored the offensive line in Super Bowl XXXVII.

During a game whilst with the Oakland Raiders against the Denver Broncos during the 1999 regular season, Kennedy at one point entered the stands and punched a Broncos fan.

Kennedy held the all-time record on the “Wall of Fame” at Seattle eatery Shultzy’s Sausage before the restaurant changed locations and did away with the Wall. In his record-setting effort, he consumed 11 of the restaurant’s signature link sausages on French rolls and a large Coca-Cola within one hour.

Speaking and public presence: broadcaster for both Fox Sports and Premier Radio Networks. A great communicator.

Wow!! What a find!! No Democrat seeking a senatorial position in NY has ever been more qualified!!

By John Galt Jr.

December 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

Lets watch this Illinois debacle unfold. Rezko, Obama, dirty deals, dirty money. The emperor may yet lose his clothes. Way say you Jay? Is there hypocrisy because it is not Bush or his cronies under investigation?

By Danjonglee

December 9, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

“Fitzgerald let the Valerie Plame investigation keep going and going for years after he knew who the leaker was, Richard Armitage. But Fitzgerald shut down the Blago investigation in the middle of a crime spree.”

Who was Blago leading the FBI to? a certain Kenyan??

By david wayne osedach, san diego/ U.S.A.

December 9, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Obama is incredible pressure to deliver campaign promises even though he is not yet President. Give him 3 months in 2009 and then check his approval rating. I am sure it will be substantially less.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Let’s not leave the Republicans feeling such gloom, despair and agony. We should encourage all 20 percent of them to never give up. That deep dark depression could one day be transformed into something other than misery. Sure, I know what you are thinking, If it weren’t for bad luck they’d have no luck at all and that’s hard to deny. But things can change. For example, the Republican party could easily rise back up if the US were to suffer another civil war and the Republicans were to elect a leader that spoke out against racism and stood up for the rights of the people and immigrants and other such things. Don’t laugh. It could happen.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

I wonder if the fact that Fitzgerald was on Bush/Rove’s list of US Attorneys to be fired has dawned on the 20 percenters.

The same Fitzgerald who is leading this investigation.

By John Galt Jr.

December 9, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, you mean like another Lincoln, a Republican?

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON – Though Barack Obama isn’t accused of anything, the charges against his home-state governor — concerning Obama’s own Senate seat no less — are an unwelcome distraction. And the ultimate fallout is unclear. As Obama works to set up his new administration and deal with a national economic crisis, suddenly he also is spending time and attention trying to distance himself from Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and charges that the governor was trying to sell the now-vacant Senate post.

Like my Dad always said, if you run with the dogs, your gonna get fleas.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

I see Corporal has found another Cause célèbre

Jay/Taxpayer/Getalife/AmVET: Get the popcorn ready. I’ll buy the beer.

This is gonna be a good one!!!

Might make his birth certificate investigation look like small potatoes, er, kernels.

By RW-(the original)

December 9, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Fitz also decided to arrest the guv and for all practical purposes short circuit the case before anymore negotiations could go on in selling this Senate seat. I don’t buy his excuses for why he had to go public today and maybe that’s why he was on the potential firing list before.

Let’s see if Obambi continues to emulate the Clinton administration and fires every last one of them. Will we hear these cries of outrage from you if he does?

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Dear John,

What other kind of Lincoln is there.

By John Galt Jr.

December 9, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Has anything ever come from Chicago other than Democrat corruption? Anything good? This should be fun.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

And if you get bored with this investigation Corporal, here’s another gem for ya:

O’Reilly And Rove Agree: Reports On The Bad Economy Are Part Of A Media Cabal To Help Obama

I have no doubt with you on the job, this thing will go mainstream within weeks.

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

To Midori

You’re exactly right !

By Soixante huitard

December 9, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

The higher you sit, the further you fall.

It’s next to meaningless.

By Frederick Douglass

December 9, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

My dad always said ” if you run with dogs YOU’RE gonna get fleas”. But what the heck did he know with his 6th grade segregated school education? Gosh I wish he’d lived to see what a fine president we have now.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

They have all sorts of treatments these days. Science has just worked miracles and not just for dogs — cats too.

By @@

December 9, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

New York Times: But so far, they are mainly muting their protest, clinging to the belief that Mr. Obama still means what he said on the campaign trail and remaining wary of undermining what they see as the most liberal president sent to the White House in a generation.

Say whaaaattt! He’s got the left muted and clingy?

Some liberals said they would have only themselves to blame if their expectations were not met. “So many progressives were misled about what Obama is and what he believes,” Glenn Greenwald wrote in the online magazine Salon. “But it wasn’t Obama who misled them. (Here’s where I disagree, it WAS OBAMA who misled them) It was their own desires, their eagerness to see what they wanted to see rather than what reality offered.”

Desiring ANYTHING from government and politicians will, no doubt, leave them wanting.

From my life’s mentor — the secret to a successful and happy life is YOU ARE!!!

The government isn’t……YOU ARE!!!

your own worst enemy. What are YOU gonna do about it?

By fed up

December 9, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

I am not one to believe polls whether they favor my particular candidate or not. I hope that Obama does well, even though I didn’t vote for him. If he does well then America and Americans do well. I will not stoop to the level of the people that have attacked President Bush. I’m sure his approval rating will fall as he settles in but that’s to be expected of any President, dem or repub. It really doesn’t look too good for him though for this to happen to the governor of his State. Hopefully he had nothing to do with it and knew nothing about it.

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

To Frederick Douglas

And you think schools aren’t segregated now? Have you been to Atlanta lately? What planet do you live on?

Plus those black colleges who don’t want to integrate ………..

P.S. You mean Bush? He’s the President NOW !

To Taxpayer

Yep. It’s called defense attorney and is very expensive.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

One must wonder what Blago was getting away with before he got too close to Oblahmi and Fitzgerald shut him down.

ew

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Clearly Obama needs to create a new cabinet position to handle the issues of corruption in government. He could nominate Palin as Secretary of Trash Removal and let her work that magic on both sides of the aisle. Let’s see what she’s made of. Can she really get rid of that good old boy network?

By the way, if all politicians that have been bought and paid for via monetary influence during their campaigns and/or time in office were to get thrown out, would anyone other than Ron Paul still be in office. Just curious.

By sunshine and thunder

December 9, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

JAY

You wrote:

Naming Cabinet officers, that’s one thing. Most people seem to think he has done a damn fine job of that.

Let’s see. Sec Def is a Bush appointee. Att Gen is a Clinton appointee. Chief of Staff is a Chicago machine pol. Sec Commerce is a Bush appointee. Sec Treas is a Bernanke/Greenspan interest rate dove (that’s how we got in this bubble to begin with). Sec State is a Clinton. I thought you left nuts voted for CHANGE.

Trying to reassure the markets and Main Street that assistance is coming, that he’ll take office Jan. 20 prepared to move quickly. Most people also think he’s done a good job of that.

OKAY. We know he can talk a good game. How else did a community organizer get himself elected president? Oh yeah, by the same voters who answered this poll.

Handling the transition between himself and President Bush, a task that Bush to his credit has also handled with grace.

You repeat yourself without substance.

The American people believe Obama has navigated those treacherous waters rather well,

Treacherous waters!!? Picking a cabinet and making a few speeches? Come on.

On issues from Pakistan to the auto bailout, he has spoken intelligently

When? You’re obliged to quote this intelligent chatter.

It seems to me that everybody else understands the concept of transition pretty well, sunshine. Maybe you just missed class that day?

Maybe so. Or maybe the emperor really has no clothes. This is the most ridiculous poll I’ve seen in a long time. Because it has no substance and no reason for being and because it sells itself to supposedly educated “journalists” such as you.

By Hmmmmm

December 9, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

Nobody cares that another one of his Illinois buddies is crooked, wow imagine that!

Obama looks good in a suit! Yeah that’s all that matters!

By Frederick Douglass

December 9, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

To Corporal: I mean the schools that were so dilapidated that you had to wear a hard hat to class, while persons that will remain nameless learned in luxury. Don’t lecture me about that situation, I spent 12 years in that squalor thanks to the state of Georgia. Another point, Bush was never a president.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Well, perhaps Obama should have stormed the White House by now with armed troopers and caught the Republican insurgents off guard right in the middle of yet another of their assaults on the American people. After all, we know how the other 20 percent lives — by force. It’s apparently the only thing they understand. Then again, perhaps Obama prefers that 80 percent approval rating over a 20 percent rating.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

BUT….BUT….BUT…Taxpayer —

he looks good in a suit!!!

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

To Frederick Douglass

You need to get over it. We’ll never know but I doubt your school was any worse than mine in the hills of Tennessee.

And if the truth be known, you learned more there than kids are learning today!

You know … there are some pretty poor D.C. schools (dilapidated, lousy equipment, overcrowded, crime) but guess where the Obama kids are going?

Maybe you should take that up with him.

P.S. to All

Chicago/State of Illinois government/politics is the most corrupt in this country. We all know that. Obama rose to the top and came out of that corruptness not inspite of it but because of it.

By @@

December 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

Logic makes me believe that Blagojevich wouldn’t have even attempted this had he not thought there was a chance, based on past experiences, that OBlahMa was at least open for business.

If Axelrod wasn’t that keen on Blagojevich, then why did he donate to his campaigns from 1996 to 2000?

From “Political Base”:

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 1996 Apr 25, 1995 $500

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 1996 Feb 22, 1996 $300

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 1996 Jun 25, 1996 $300

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 1998 Jun 30, 1997 $500

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 1998 Nov 21, 1997 $500

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 1998 Apr 15, 1998 $1,000

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 2000 Aug 11, 1999 $1,000

Rod Blagojevich for Representative in 2000 Nov 3, 2000 $1,000

RW @ 7:50:

I bet it’s suddenly become a symbol of how cool a politician is.

You betcha! (ISH)

By Midori

December 9, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

BUT….BUT….BUT…Corporal —

he looks SO good in a suit!!!

By JB

December 9, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Wonder if Rezco will finally “spill the beans” on Obie to save his sorry hide from the Feds. He was supposedly up to his eyeballs in this Crook County thing.

JB

By sunshine and thunder

December 9, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Obama IS Chicago politics. He won his first state senate seat by technically eliminating his opponents.

Change we can believe in.

What a guy.

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

To Midori

And Jane Fonda looked good in anything but she broke my heart in 1968.

By mike hussein smith

December 9, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this

DAmn, ray, don’t you know anything? The president-elect’s name is Obama, and the Illinois governor was not indicted today. And I for one am sick & tired of your racist BS.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

Obama rose to the top and came out of that corruptness not inspite of it but because of it.

Mighty brash words from you, Corporal. Why don’t you back those words up with something a little more substantial than your “word”. Huh. By the way, I don’t see how you could have been willing to protect just any president with your life if it ever came down to it — not with that kind of attitude. Or is this just that dark side that was left to fester for years until you were retired.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

The democrats gave us our first president nearly indicted while in office and now it looks they’ve given us the first one nearly indicted before he’s in office.

Nice legacy.

By not so good to me

December 9, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

Personally I don’t think he looks so good in a suit…..I’m still looking for the handsome man I keep hearing about that’s going to be the Prez…still can’t find him.

By Midori

December 9, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

LOLOLOL!!!!!

Now the 20 percenters are indicting Obama!!!

It’s gonna be a great 4 years!!!

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

To Taxpayer

It’s called professionalism but I doubt you would fully understand that. In other words, it’s not for the person, it’s for the office.

It’s similar to a police officer risking his life to rescue a felon (who just tried to kill him) from a burning vehicle that just crashed.

It’s something akin to the same reason why a soldier will go and fight for his country in a war he doesn’t believe in.

But again, I doubt you would know about that either.

There are wolves, sheep and sheepdogs.

You know which you are.

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

…Federal prosecutors Tuesday accused the 51-year-old Blagojevich of scheming to enrich himself by selling Barack Obama’s vacant Senate seat for cash…

So the guy ripped the seat out of the floor of the Senate and is trying to sell it. What’s the big deal? They do it with everything from baseballs to locks of hair to townships on E-bay all the time. Once the truth comes out, the Republicans are going to be mighty embarrassed…unless…

The real question is “what are the Republicans trying to keep out of the news now?” It must really be a doozy.

By mike hussein smith

December 9, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

ac/dc man— Nixon could have been indicted on any number of criminal charges after leaving office had not his tool Gerald Ford given him a blanket pardon.

Corporal, you’ve run the gamut on cliches today, from “Time will tell” to “lie down with dogs and get up with fleas.” Got anything original to contribute?

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

So, Corporal, this statement from you, Obama rose to the top and came out of that corruptness not inspite of it but because of it, is your sick idea of so-called professionalism. You are right, Corporal. I don’t understand that. Please explain.

By Chad Harris

December 9, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

By AJC/DNC Management

December 9, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

The democrats gave us our first president nearly indicted while in office and now it looks they’ve given us the first one nearly indicted before he’s in office.

Ah jist wanted to take a break and ususally here you just have to spin the middle mouse button with your eyes clothes to find the idiot who most seems to be talking with Sarah Palin’s head in their body. The wheel stoped at ol AJC/DNC.

Lessee how the Betz cell butressed by a single spirochete in his brain reasoned tonight. Oiveyovitch in Chitown has been threatedned by the usual team of Pat Fitz and his possible puppet formner Watergate lacky Amy St. Eve or whomever the hell the Northern District of Illinois Judge or as they say in Jaw Jaw jidge will be who “presides” over the trial.

The insanity defense has already been tossed about.

And AJC, with as much legal knowledge as he has medical knowledge has said something whacky about the President elect.

I couldn’t think of any more clear proof in this indictment and the transcripts of the tapes than Gov Blag (this is a slight paraphrase) saying he was offered “zilch from Obama so f*ck him.”

This is in reference to whom Blag has the power to appoint to succeed Obama in the Senate.

Look at it this way AJC: You’re well known to have fantasized for years that Pat Fitzgerald would talk dirty to you. And now he has.

Blago ain’t goin’ nowhere.. He done said so. And why should he? Ted Stevens hung in there until his craggy nasty butt was kicked in the election.

Ilook for him to now speedily appoint the dem to the Senate rather than risk what is a small chance Illinois could elect a Rethug. Rethugs get killed in that state. I’d give you better chances at getting the JawJaaw Florida game played over again.

And wouldn’t you have wanted to be a fly on the wall when the two Palinista type women Clinton and Rice met over dinner. Rice was carefully tutoring Hillruh in how she had clusterfucked foreign affairs for years so Hillruh could do the same.

By valley girl

December 9, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

no!! noooo!

please not Chad Harris!

gag everyone with a spoon!

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

Come on out, Corporal,

You talk big but that’s all you have. You would not know professionalism if I slapped you silly — excuse me, sillier — with it. Look at you and your ridiculous statements. You cannot even maintain a sense of professionalism on an anonymous blog. You’re a joke.

By Rented Mule

December 9, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

Will Obama turn loose Patrick Fitzgerald and let the investigation go where it leads or will Obama try to reign him in and protect those who are involved and guilty?

By valley girl

December 9, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this

taxpayer wants to fight the Corporal.

that’s just like so grody man.

this is a professional blog, taxpayer.

its anonymous too so there are no copyrights.

did you know Einstein was a copyright genius?

By Taxpayer

December 9, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Ah well, enough fun for one night. Good night, Corporal. Good night, John Boy. Good night, Jim Bob. Good night, Billy Bob. Good night….

By Chad Harris

December 9, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

Like Valley Girl. Could there be any more cerebral focused discussion than what you provide like?

Keep on Keepin’ on with your Palenesque grasp of politics.

Meanwhile things looked decent for Governor Siegelman before the Eleventh Circuit panel today right Val Babe?

As Val Babe knows Edmondson is an in the closet gay Federalist society martinet, and I’m not knocking his sexual preference, I’m just stating it since he unsuccessfully tries to hide it. Tjoflat will be helpful because he likes to zero in on low hanging fruit when the government has clearly stepped on their dicks and they clearly have in this case. Alice Martin couldn’t be in deeper. The panel zeroed in on the ridiculous emails between jurors. Even the federalist martinet and government puppet Edmondson managed to notice the implications of the emails.

I’ll put ya out of your misery and confusion Val Babe. The panel will reverse and grant a new trial. They could even do the extremely rare deed of reversing and dismissing the case, but I very much doubt it. Siegelman has been getting screwed anorgasmically either way by Rove and Alice Martin and her husband.

One problem that the government hit hard is that there is no chain of custody for the emails so no hard proof authenticating them.

Ah done appreciates all your incisive legal insights on the Siegelman appeal Val babe like.

By "The Corporal"

December 9, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

To Taxpayer

Real men don’t slap.

I won’t answer your question until you answer whether or not you are a wolf, sheep or a sheepdog.

To Mike Hussein Smith

Is that your real middle name?

P.S. “Sticks and stones might break my bones but words will never harm me.”

By @@

December 9, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this

Lawd-a-mercy! I didn’t know Emil Jones threw his hat in the ring for Obama’s senate seat.

Let’s see now…..last I heard Jones wanted his son to take over his kingmaker status upon his retirement.

For the first time, outgoing Illinois Senate President Emil Jones is saying he would like President-elect Barack Obama’s U.S. Senate seat.

“Yes, I am interested,” Jones said on WBBM-AM’s “At Issue,” which aired Sunday. Obama’s replacement should be black, Jones said, because otherwise the U.S. Senate will be all-white.

“Barack would not be there had [it] not been for an Emil Jones,” Ald. Carrie Austin (34th) said at a Sunday news conference to push Jones.

Jones, another Chicago politician of questionable ethics vying for Obama’s seat?

Taxpayer:

Emil Jones made Obama what he is today. Obama, himself referred to Jones as his “political godfather”.

Do some research on Jones. Corporal’s statement will be proven “in fact”.

Jones is as dirty as they come.

It was only after receiving the nomination, that Obama pushed Emil Jones to enact an ethics bill that others had been pushing for a long time. Not before securing the nomination…….after.

Obama didn’t want any complications on his way to the oval office.

By RB from Gwinnett

December 9, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Question for you Jay. Did the poll give an approval rating of how Bush was handling the transition too? If so, what were the numbers?

For the record, I approve of how Obama is handling the transition too. Also for the record, that has NOTHING to do with job performance. Just like before the election, he’s still done nothing of note. I’ll reserve judgement until he has.

And if his “approval rating” as you would like to call it gets a bit higher, it’ll be as high as Sarah Palin’s. Funny how you think this poll at 80% is some kind of sign from God, but Sarah’s 80% after actually doing the job for some time is meaningless. Maybe you’re just a partisan hack?…

By @@

December 9, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Looks like Taxpayer exited. Nahhhhh, he’s probably still looking in.

A little more on Emil Jones (political godfather to Obama).

Times Online

“You have the power to elect a US senator,” Obama told Emil Jones, Democratic leader of the Illinois state senate. Jones looked at the ambitious young man smiling before him and asked, teasingly: “Do you know anybody I could make a US senator?”

According to Jones, Obama replied: “Me.” It was his first, audacious step in a spectacular rise from the murky political backwaters of Springfield, the Illinois capital.

The exchange also sealed an intimate personal and political relationship that is likely to attract intense scrutiny amid the furore over Obama’s links to some of Chicago’s most controversial political and religious power brokers.

Obama has often described Jones as a key political mentor whose patronage was crucial to his early success in a state long dominated by near-feudal party political machines. Jones, 71, describes himself as Obama’s “godfather” and once said: “He feels like a son to me.”

At one point during Obama’s 2003 Senate campaign, Jones set out to woo two African-American politicians miffed by Obama’s presumption and ambition. One of them, Rickey “Hollywood” Hendon, a state senator, had scoffed that Obama was so ambitious he would run for “king of the world” if the position were vacant.

When Jones secured the two men’s support, Obama asked his mentor how he had pulled it off. “I made them an offer,” Jones said in mock-mafioso style. “And you don’t want to know.”

Jones is now at the centre of a long row over his attempt to block proposed laws cracking down on his state’s “pay-to-play” tradition – whereby companies hoping to win government contracts have to contribute to the campaign funds of officials.

Jones’s staff say he blocked the bill because he intends to produce something tougher. No proposals have appeared.

BTW, Jones also allowed Obama to take credit for legislation that he didn’t initiate, but simply latched onto once the decision was made to pursue the U.S. senate seat. He needed the legislation to carry political weight in Washington.

This was all well documented in print. You leftists just chose to ignore it.

By Dogs Against Management

December 9, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

If AC/DC had a male dog, and if that dog had a 15 word vocabulary, one of his socks would be constantly moist.

By thogwummpy

December 9, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

Obama is a Tin God…and such frauds eventually tarnish.

By Tommy Maddox

December 9, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

To scam a line from our old buddy Rev. Wright:

Chicago’s chickens are coming home… to roost…

By me again

December 9, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

Who wants to bet that Dogs Against Management is Taxpayer?

By wankers for taxpayers

December 9, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

here here

By Dale Gribble's GOP

December 9, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

me again,

I’ll take that bet. Even Taxpayer is above this attempt at humor.

By @@

December 9, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

A little something from Stratfor and then I’m gone.

Despite U.S. President-elect Barack Obama’s statements about a “soft surge” strategy analogous to a model used in Iraq — a surge that could total 20,000 U.S. troops, on top of more than 60,000 U.S. and NATO forces already present — the Taliban movement is not quaking in its boots.

Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar remained defiant as ever Monday, declaring in a message posted on an Islamist radical Web site that a planned surge of foreign troops to Afghanistan would result only in more targets for Taliban fighters.

In the Iraq experience, it is not that the 30,000 extra troops altered the balance of power — far from it. It was the arrival of those troops in context that was significant. U.S. President George W. Bush committed the forces immediately after his party lost the 2006 congressional elections and thus control over both houses of Congress. The obvious decision would have been to throw in the towel and begin a withdrawal from Iraq. Instead, Bush surged forces. The general feeling in the region — and particularly in Iran — was shocked confusion.

Gotta keep the enemy off balance.

Obama is predictable.

By jon

December 9, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this

I asked four of my friends to rate how I was doing at running the country. Three of them said I was doing a good job. My approval rating is 75%. That’s better than Obama’s and I’m a Republican.

By hillary

December 10, 2008 4:21 AM | Link to this

Who ever heard of polling the president-elect? This is unbelievable, but then we are talking about the Messiah. Let’s check out the numbers next year at this time.

By Correlation?

December 10, 2008 4:28 AM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton had to know about Gov. Elliot Spitzer’s “ho scandal”, so I think we need to reconsider whether or not she should be made Sec. Of State. After all she is a Senator in his state. She probably arranged the money drops.

I think we really need to look closer at Palin’s relationship with Ted Stevens after that bridge to nowhere too.

You think Jeb Bush left office because he knew it was only a matter of time before they linked him to Congressman Foley and those little boys working up on Capitol Hill???

You idiots are desperately trying to find anything to put on PRESIDENT OBAMA. And I’m getting sick of this “Chicago Style Politics” garbage I keep hearing. Rightwing talking nut heads have programmed you well I see. But go ahead and p1$$ away the little credibility you have left on attempting to stir another Clintonesque witch hunt for the next 4 years..and he isn’t even in office yet. Anything to keep that brown-skinned man from walking into that White House and kicking his feet up on a coffee table.

SOURPUSSES.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 10, 2008 5:41 AM | Link to this

I’ve learned over time that when a lib says one thing it usually means the exact opposite is true-

ILLINOIS GOVERNOR ARRESTED: Scandal over Senate seat- Corruption probe: Prosecutors say Obama knew nothing of attempts to auction off his old spot.-Urinal/DNC

A big screaming letters on the front page remind of a toddler throwing a fit when caught red handed.

There must be something to this.

By drew

December 10, 2008 6:02 AM | Link to this

Corporal….sticks and stones??? I guess you told them! I’m telling you libs out there…DON’T mess with the Corporal…he doesn’t hold back! Keep it up and he’s liable to hit you with the old, “your momma wears army boots”….wait a minute…his momma probably *does wear army boots. BWAH!!

Ray, Congrats…with your posts today, you have officially surpassed the anal AJC/DNC and the stupidazz Buttwiper, to become the biggest dumbazz on this blog. Keep ‘em coming Spanky!

Damnn…repugs sure are sore losers! But at least they’re funny. BWAH!!

By GodHatesTrash

December 10, 2008 6:12 AM | Link to this

Jon, congratulations on your 75% approval rating.

The difference between your survey and the one for Obama is this - about half of Americans are idiots.

100% of your friends are idiots.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 10, 2008 6:46 AM | Link to this

Given Obama’s elaborate deference to the KKKlintons, beginning with his over-accommodation of them at the Democratic convention in August, a nagging question has floated around the Web: What do the Klintons have on him? No one doubts that the Bruno opposition research team was turning over every rock in its mission to propel Hillary into the White House. There’s an information vacuum here that conspiracy theorists have been rushing to fill.-Salon

These people aren’t even infesting the White House yet but already the drama oozes out of every sewer, what is going to happen when they finally do get there?

ew

By GodHatesTrash

December 10, 2008 6:49 AM | Link to this

Your gal pal is feeling icky too, duh

By Mrs. Godzilla

December 10, 2008 7:27 AM | Link to this

I offer a toast to the 20%.

You used to be 50%, then 30% then 25%….

By williebkind

December 10, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this

Mike hussein smith: If someone talks about blacks they are racist to you…Buckwheat fits Obama appropriately. Only you and your racist ilk would see it as a racist. Now to the governor buying the senate seat. It does sound like the fall of the Roman Empire all over again does it not. This is a good comparison of a republic turning into a dictatorship and then getting destroyed. You progessive liberals are asking for change and you are getting it. I say continue blocking the drilling of oil, stop building refineries, and repeat the global warming thing until the economy collaspses. The we will be like the Greeks. We will have leaders who have payed their way into high positions and contemplated themselves out of existence. What is the price of a senate seat going for today?

By williebkind

December 10, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

I just polled my working area and 80% agreed the Republicans did a good on 90% of the business at hand. Their only blemish was letting the media take control of war in Iraq. I guess polls are just statistics and Sammuel Clemmens had a good reply for it.

By "The Corporal"

December 10, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

To Drew

Regarding some of my little quotes to some of our mutual friends.

Would you please look up the word patronization?

and …… “If the shoe fits, WEAR IT!”

By One Voice

December 10, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Andy @ 6:46,

I guess you’ll be blogging all day here today since you won’t be going in to work in honor of the national “Day Without a Gay” holiday? Do us a favor and honor your orientation here too by disappearing for the day so we don’t have to be subjected to day-long, irrelevant conservative blather.

Oh, by the way, how does it feel to have your party have no power in government due to the absolute clusterf#$% your guy has caused over the last 8 years? Your vodka of choice? Obviously “Absolute Failure”

By CommunistAJC

December 10, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Bookman, Since when did president-elects get polled for their transition period? People like you are looking for ways to build this guy up. When Obama Hussien falls, and he will fall, it’s going to be bad news for you and the other lapdogs in the media. The guy has not done anything and you are trying to make it seem like he’s Lincoln and Reagan all rolled in to one.

By SaveOurRepublic

December 10, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

When “Bacrock Obuma” exposes himself for the Globalist he truly is (once in office), his liberal base will be in for a rude awakening. To further elaborate, I doubt he’ll be bringing the troops home from the Empire building in the Middle East any time soon (if at all). Some “moderates” will no doubt be put off by “Obuma’s” surrendering of U.S. sovereignty (foreign entanglements, the forthcoming NAU, UN pandering, etc.) and police-state support (i.e. - 20K troops deployed domestically, potential martial law due to “terror” attack (false flag or legit)). Of course, he has no “popularity” with conservatives (Neocons & paleocons) as is.

By bh

December 10, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Jay: The other 20 percent post on this blog

Truer words you’ve never typed! You’ve really kept them in a tizzy the last couple of days — good job!

By making

December 10, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Whatever goes up…will come down…fact of life!

By just me

December 10, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Since you brought Black colleges into this discussion, they are ALREADY integrated! Morehouse just had a white valedictorian for goodness sake. And the Architecture school I went to was 30% White, 30% Latino, 32% Black and 8% other. Show me ANY predominantly white university with those kinds of numbers. YOU CAN’T BECAUSE THEY DON’T EXIST!

By Nurse Ratchet

December 10, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management, do you foam at the mouth and drool on your keyboard?

What a toadie…

By williebkind

December 10, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

I noticed the progessive liberals say “Obama has not been involved or done anything wrong!” as the reports of the Gov of IllRepuke tried to sell a senate seat. This is only the beginning! Remember how every blog you cried “Bush Lied!”. Well, it is just a tip of the iceburg now. It is going to get better. Hey Jay I will take 20% blogging against Obama like the 2% blogged against Bush. The problem is it will not get media attention. Well, it will definately come out on the internet. Mrs. G will more links than she can pull-up even with superfast dsl. It is going to be fun. Especially when Obama is forced to be a centrist and not a whacko liberal. Or he may be indicated in some political crime.

By just me

December 10, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Since when is calling someone “Buckwheat” not offensive? And why do White people feel like they can determine what is offensive to me (as a Black person) anyway? Oh, I see, it’s your superior mentality that says you know what’s best for me. You call a Harvard-educated professor and politician a caricatured, token character from a kid’s cartoon and we’re racist? Some of you folks just don’t get it.

By Shawny

December 10, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Isn’t it a little early to be posting approval ratings on someone that doesn’t even have the job yet? Gads that CNN is a big fan of the big O, aren’t they? Both Big Os.

By Ed

December 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

I did not vote for Obama but so far I am impressed, I am giving him a chance. I hope he can help this country. We really need it.

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