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DEL.ICIO.USGeorgia’s red paint job may be fading
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Georgia Republicans breathed a sigh of relief last week, reassured that order had been restored to their universe with Sen. Saxby Chambliss’ decisive victory.
“The basic principles that Ronald Reagan talked about in the ’80s are just as important today,” Chambliss said afterward. “If we return to those basic core values we can continue to be successful in future elections.”
Forgotten, at least for the moment, was the fact that John McCain had carried Georgia by only five percentage points, compared to George Bush’s margin of 17 points in 2004, and that in the general election Chambliss had led Jim Martin by only three points.
Those tight margins can perhaps be dismissed as a one-time phenomenon attributable largely to Barack Obama. But there’s good reason to think otherwise.
According to exit polls, for example, Georgians age 44 and under voted for Obama by a healthy margin; McCain built his victory among older Georgians. Those same polls also report that self-described conservatives (39 percent of Georgia voters) outnumber liberals (13 percent) by a 3-to-1 margin, which is good news for Republicans. However, among the 48 percent who describe themselves as moderate, Obama beat McCain by 17 points.
Political change can happen in a hurry —- a switch of just three votes out of a hundred, for example, would have put Georgia in Obama’s column. And other states have recently gone from red to blue in a flash.
A few years ago, Colorado was one of the reddest of the red states and seemed destined to remain that way for a generation. But this year it favored Obama by eight points and elected a Democrat to the U.S. Senate by 10 points.
Virginia and North Carolina —- both Southern states with rapidly growing suburban areas like Georgia —- have gone through similarly quick transitions. Bush carried Virginia by eight points in 2000 and 2004, and even Robert Dole carried it in 1996. Today Virginia has two Democratic senators and a Democratic governor, and it gave Obama a six-point victory in November.
Obama also won North Carolina, a state Bush carried by more than 12 points four years ago, and a Democrat beat the incumbent Republican senator, Elizabeth Dole, by 12 points.
Such examples worried David Hill, a Texas pollster with long professional, personal and emotional ties to the Texas Republican Party. So after the election, he polled more than 600 Texas voters to try to gauge their sentiments about the GOP.
On its Web site, the Texas Republican Party brags that “without a doubt, Texas is the strongest Republican state in the nation,” and it went for John McCain by 10 percentage points. But that may be changing. Six years ago, for example, the GOP dominated the Texas House of Representatives, holding 88 seats compared to just 62 for the Democrats. That margin has been shrinking ever since, and is now down to a razor-thin 76-74.
And when Hill conducted his poll, results shocked him.
“On most every measure tested,” he found, “the generic Republican ‘brand’ is significantly less appealing than the Democratic one” among Texans.
Overall, Lone Star voters used terms such as arrogant, racist, corrupt and angry to describe Republicans, and as Hill puts it, “that’s untenable for the party’s long-term health.”
“Grassroot Texas Republicans are firm in their convictions and confident they are right,” Hill concluded, warning that “these admirable attributes cannot be allowed to desensitize us to the fact that even in Texas, committed, principled conservative voters are a minority.”
According to Hill, moderate Texans still lean to the conservative side, but they don’t care much about illegal immigration or traditional values, the issues that fascinate the GOP base. Moderates are more interested in issues such as education and health care for children.
“There is a natural human tendency to resist change until the necessity of having to do so can no longer be avoided,” Hill warned, noting that in politics, “a realization that the political landscape is shifting and you must adjust often only comes once it’s too late.”
Comments
By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
December 8, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
“According to exit polls, for example, Georgians age 44 and under voted for Obama by a healthy margin.” You know the old saying, “If you are not a liberal when you are 20, you don’t have a heart, but, if you are not a conservative by the time you are 40, you don’t have a brain.”
Jay, don’t worry about ol’ Wyld Byll and his side of the table, we’ll ride the Sarahcuda back into the White House in 2012.
Even if we don’t, in light of the way PEOTUS is setting up, after the “progressive” wing of the Democrat party throws him under the bus in the ‘12 primaries, we may take him. He has already fallen in line on Iraq and the tax cuts and he now only needs to move toward us on abortion and smaller government.
Could be that after PEOTUS goes back on the rest of his campaign promises is that the only difference between President Obama and President Bush might be, as all who saw the Liberian trip will confirm, is that President bush has more rythm.
By getalife
December 8, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Elect gop and the economy crashes. Insane.
“Supreme Court Rejects Obama Birth Challenge”
You can take off your tin foil hat now private.
By AJC/DNC Management
December 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
That’s the same thing you said before democrats got slaughtered on December 2nd.
And we may not our current Republicans all that much but we do vote for them.
By TW
December 8, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth.
Game
Set
Match
By Citizen of the World
December 8, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it be great to do away with red state/blue state labels?
Sophisticated computer graphics no doubt could allow the media to show various shades of purple if it so chose, putting an end to the perception that states are politically or ideologically monolithic. A state might either be bluish red or reddish blue, reflecting, ironically, shades of gray.
By AF
December 8, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
It is hard to imagine Georgia changing from red to blue. I think once we buy into an idea, it takes something catastrophic to that vision to allow a change. Maybe the recession/depression we are experiencing will do it.
Probably not. We Georgians will stick with the Party that bashes gays and abortion, even if they ruin the economy and kill our service members in unjustified wars, rather than give up our “values.”
There is an interesting piece by Kristol in todays NYT about the changing picture of “modern conservatism.” He has a hard time reconciling old time Republican “principals” with outcomes from the years of Republican governance - think growth in federal debt, size of government, drug coverage in Medicare. So he is coming up with some new words. We don’t have “small government conservatives” any more, we have “modern conservatism” which promotes “energetic” and “constitutional” government, rather than small government. Of course, anything promoted by Democrats is still “big government liberalism.”
Both parties need to be redefining themselves - we need some words besides “liberal” and “conservative” to help define issues.
By AJC/DNC Management
December 8, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
“Cheryl” started out yesterday whining about Republicans raising taxes and after realizing that dog wouldn’t hunt, moved on to Republicans being “against clean water,” at which point I wisely chose to MoveOn, but one last parting gift for thee princess of the fever swamps-
Raise Gas Taxes - Washington Post
To which the goony democrats say, “no s**, Sherlock.”
By getalife
December 8, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
“Richard Nixon, who resigned at the height of the Watergate Scandal, is now implicated with his Sec of State Henry Kissenger in an act of high treason. On the tapes, a furious LBJ told Senate Republican leader Everett Dirksen that because Nixon had ‘played politics’ with Viet Nam ‘tens of thousands’ of US troops in Viet Nam lost their lives. Specifically, Johnson accused Nixon of sabotaging peace efforts by his administration. LBJ is heard yelling: “This is treason.”
Elect gop and get lawlessness, treason, Constitution trampled and a recession. Insane.
By Midori
December 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
LOL!!!
Winning 2 elections is a “slaughter”???
ROFL!!!!!
By TW
December 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
if you are not a conservative by the time you are 40, you don’t have a brain.
Unless you have kids - kinda puts a damper on the ol’ giving the rest of the world the finger.
By Abomi Nation
December 8, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
“Supreme Court Rejects Obama Birth Challenge”
getalife, Corporal may indeed finally stop with the silly birth certificate nonsense. However, he still has the silly “smoking in the White House” nonsense……
IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!
By Midori
December 8, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Abomi and Getalife,
I hardly think he will let it go.
That guy is like a dog with a bone when it comes to that issue.
By Shawny
December 8, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Perhaps. Who knows. Will be interesting to see how ‘purple’ the state stays if Obama keeps backpeddling and the wacky lefty loosies get left out.
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Clinton won GA in ‘92, didn’t he? Or ‘96? It was ‘92, I think.
Anywho, to all my “leftie” friends. Are y’all unhappy? According to all the righty tighties around here, we are supposed to be upset with Obama?
I’m still just as happy about him as I was November 4.
But I must know because of my concern for everyone………..is any lefty out there in the Bookman blog world who is unhappy?
AND, long live Jan Kemp. What a woman. May she rest in peace now.
By sunshine and thunder
December 8, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Of course Ga was close. The Presidential election was liberal left nut vs. liberal lite.
Any Republican in Georgia had to hold his nose to vote for McCain.
Bring back an idea such as the Contract with America or a leader such as Ronald Reagan and you’ll have a Republican landslide.
To paraphrase Zell Miller: We didn’t leave the Republican party, the Republican party left us.
By AF
December 8, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
No, AJC/DNC. Don’t raise gas taxes.
Tax gas guzzler cars. Why should those who are conservative - as in conserving gas - also pay for those who are not conserving gas? Tax the car, at time of purchase, repurchase, and annually.
By Midori
December 8, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I’d like to report that I’m mighty satisfied.
And I’ve YET to talk to anyone else who is supposedly unhappy with Obama.
Another non-issue the right has pulled out of you-know-where, along with the “Obama-was-born-in-Kenya” meme.
By Cheryl
December 8, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
By AJC/DNC Management AJC/DNC wrote “Cheryl” started out yesterday whining about Republicans raising taxes and after realizing that dog wouldn’t hunt, moved on to Republicans being “against clean water,” at which point I wisely chose to MoveOn, but one last parting gift for thee princess of the fever swamps-
Raise Gas Taxes - Washington Post
To which the goony democrats say, “no s**, Sherlock.”
WP/RNC - I don’t know what a Fever Swamp is, but I wouldn’t characterize myself as a Princess of anything. I am just an ordinary citizen. Fever Swamp must be some backwoods lingo, of which I am not aware… I dont’ speak hillbilly.
As for the taxes, again, read….. I said that Saxby Chambliss ran his campaign stating direct quote” Jim Martin wants to Raise your taxes, I want to lower them”. I asked why didn’t he since he had 6 years with the Congress and White House in his favor, why didn’t they do it? The Wealthy got a tax decrease, but Mine across the board, went up! I stand by that, and have the receipts to prove it, so get it straight.
I am not the one who lives in a bubble, a world that exists only in my own mind, I am in the real one, where things really do matter. I’m not sure where you live, but it sounds like it may involve a trailer, with alot of dogs around it, so maybe you don’t know that ‘we received no tax releif’ under Bush or Chambliss/Isackson and he was lying when he said that’s what he wants to do. Don’t believe the hype, tax and spend liberals…… It’s the Pillage and Plunder then borrow and spend Republicans that have us where we are today.
Maybe you are a member of the population that doesn’t pay taxes……. hmmmmm that might be the reason you didn’t know it…..
And for the record… I don’t mind paying taxes, and I do think it is patriotic, taxes pay for the things we need everyday, like streets, schools, police, firefighters….. Those things are not free, and I don’t mind paying for them, I just mind those who misuse that money to take care of their rich friends and then blame poor people for costing too much….. And then lie and say they want to lower them…. Dirty Liars!
Fuel taxes will go up, like I said yesterday….. they never went away, and they should go up, and maybe force us off of petroleum products for good…..
Oh, you’re probably one of those drill baby drill fools….
“The sky is falling” - Chicken Little
You probably don’t believe that either….. what a scholar you are AJC
By Doggone/GA
December 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
“To paraphrase Zell Miller: We didn’t leave the Republican party, the Republican party left us.”
That’s an interesting thing for a DEMOCRAT to say, don’t you think? And it isn’t a paraphrase of Zell Miller anyway, it’s a paraphrase of Ronald Reagan, who said, in 1962 “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The party left me”
By mm
December 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Now that Obama has picked a cabinet that the wingnuts can’t b*tch about, the wingnuts are claiming the Dems are mad at Obama. Maybe some elected Dems are mad, but we can vote them out of office just like we did when we got rid of the Neo-cons.
The electorate is satisfied with Obama. No amount of Rush/Hannity nonsense can change that.
By cubalibre
December 8, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Overall, Lone Star voters used terms such as arrogant, racist, corrupt and angry to describe Republicans, and as Hill puts it, “that’s untenable for the party’s long-term health.”
Wow. If the GOP is becoming too arrogant, corrupt, angry and racist for Texans, that’s pretty eye-opening. (And I’m from Texas, so I’m not hatin’, just sayin’.) Maybe there’s a chance that the party will extricate itself from the clutches of its extremist side, which is currently its most vocal. Not holding my breath, but there’s always hope!
By Mrs. Godzilla
December 8, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I am very pleased with the way the Obama is administration is playing out….as our all the folks I know who voted for McCain.
There is no tempest in that teapot.
The Dems are not divided.
Hillary will not form a shadow government.
Penalties under comprehensive immigration does not equal amnesty.
Withdrawal from Iraq is not waving the white flag of surrender.
Questioning our government is not anti-American.
Qualified and competent are two different words.
Poor folks are not responsible for the economic meltdown.
Unions are not responsible for the failure of big auto.
Georgia is not a far right state.
America is not a center right nation.
I have left any other myths out?
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Midori,
I haven’t heard any of my rabid left friends who are concerned or upset the least.
Now, I’d have picked Bill Richardson over Hills for Sec. of State, but I can live with his choice, I have all the confidence in the world he can reel her in if necessary.
OMmmmmG! This lady I know just dropped off a tin full of Christmas baked goodies - and left it with ME - I’m assuming she brought it for all of us, but she didn’t necessarily say it was for all of us.
Hee hee hee. It’s all mine.
What tin? I don’t remember any tin full of cookies and fudge?
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
What about socialist Marxist nanny state?
Huh?
By Soixante huitard
December 8, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Test, I seem to be locked out.
By Midori
December 8, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
you’re such a sugar fiend!!! :)
By Mrs. Godzilla
December 8, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Bosch…
You’re right!
Harpo, Groucho, Chico, Gummo, Zeppo and Obama…..
Hail, Hail Freedonia!
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
And the Gestapo police force Obama’s gonna form.
And how all our money is — all of it — is going into taxes and all the loser poor people will get it, and leave the rest of us homeless and in the streets, and starving….but wait a minute…..then we’ll be poor and then we’ll get all the money…….
Ha ha! What a great plan! OH, I shouldn’t have eaten all that sugar.
Hmmmm…..give me a minute, I’ll think of a couple more.
By Citizen of the World
December 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
Obama is doing a good job so far. He’s made some wise choices for his cabinet, going for proven experience and leadership over cronyism and ideology. He seems determined to focus on the issues and problems at hand and not get sidetracked by personality or politics.
Every time he comes on the scene, he’s consistently able to articulate, exudes confidence, thoughtfulness and humor, and demonstrates a command of the issues.
He’s got a tough job ahead. Those of us who voted for him expect progress, not perfection.
Those who didn’t vote for him expect failure or miracles, which is just another way of expecting failure. Nevertheless, if they were honest, they would admit that they hope for progress, too. We sure could use some.
By Soixante huitard
December 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Does this go through?
Apparently my other post gets caught in the spam filter. Hmm. Weird.
By Soixante huitard
December 8, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Ok, let me try this in bits …
Official Jay Bookman “Fairness Doctrine of Bust” sweepstakes update:
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Guilty.
But, in my defense, she said, I want you to enjoy this. Now, she didn’t say y’all enjoy this as most Southerners do. But she isn’t Southern, and “you” is plural as well, but she should have known that I’M Southern, and I say “y’all” and although she only said “you” surely she would have known how I’d interpret it and then it all smelled so good and there was fudge, did I tell you about the fudge? and then there were fresh baked cookies with the little sprinkles that I love so much and then there were gingerbread too and I kind of blanked out after that.
By Soixante huitard
December 8, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Stay tuned for offical Jay Bookman “Fairness Doctrine or Bust” sweepstakes update:
By "The Corporal"
December 8, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
It was long past time for an African-American to be president. I had just hoped (and thought) the individual elected would be conservative.
That said, if Obama fails miserably in this endeavor, it will set that whole process back for a long time - at least for a liberal.
By Midori
December 8, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
LOL, Bosch — I do believe you’re having a “sugar tizzy”
ROFL!!!
By Soixante huitard
December 8, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
In today’s Washington Post, George Will rants for 1000 words against the Fairness Doctrine menace without once explaining why we’re talking about this. No reference is made to any actual current measures that are on the agenda to reinstate the policy.
By getalife
December 8, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Told ya private has issues.
“In late September, Newt Gingrich slammed the influence of the mortgage giants in Washington, calling some Dem lawmakers’ ties to the company “absolutely disgusting.” But it turns out Gingrich himself got a cool $300,000 from Freddie in 2006 to help fight off regulation.”
Hypocrite.
By Soixante huitard
December 8, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
In fact, though, Sen. Charles Schumer (NY) did appear to express support for its reinstitution on Fox News recently, as reported here.
By bh
December 8, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Bosch—
No unhappiness here. This lib is happy with the reasonableness that our President Elect is showing and content to actually let him take office before making judgements one way or the other. I suspect most people feel the same — with the exception of a small number of nut cases on both sides.
By Soixante huitard
December 8, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Or did he? If you listen to his words closely, he appears to stop short of that and even seems to be almost toying with those who want to find a bogeyman in the issue.
So, maybe Jay won’t lose his shirt after all.
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Midori, Mrs. G., and bh,
I saw Obama on Meet the Press yesterday. Isn’t it nice to have an almost POTUS who, when you hear him talk, doesn’t cause every sphincter in your entire body to contract?
By DB, Gwinnettian
December 8, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Soixante, there’s little practical difference between George Will ranting about a nonexistent problem, and “Ray” in the dead thread ranting about how he and the Bass Pro Shops clerk were all concerned about Obama’s scary new “300% Ammo tax.”
Except I expect Ray wasted far less of my time than George did yours.
By bh
December 8, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Bosch
AMEN to that! Smart is such a nice change!
By "The Corporal"
December 8, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Headline 12/7/08
Obama: Don’t stock up on guns
“I will end the war in Iraq” “I have quit smoking” “I support the 2nd Amendment”
Translation?
You had better stock up on any guns or ammo you want/need.
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Corporal,
Oh My God.
What about cigarettes? Should we stock up on those too? I don’t speak wingnut so help me out dude.
By DB, Gwinnettian
December 8, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Corporal, you’re a terrible survivalist.
If things are really that dire you shouldn’t be opening your trap in public about it. You should just be stockpilin’ the gunz, ammo, duct tape and suchlike for you and yer kin.
By Midori
December 8, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
And Corporal — don’t forget the Pabst Blue Ribbon!!
By Mrs. Godzilla
December 8, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I know what you mean!
Generally, watching Bush in private has felt like corporal punishment.
It’s a major improvement with Obama.
He’ll reign in the captains of industry.
He’s going to be a terrific Commander in chief.
I understand he doesn’t like the colonels chicken, buy Frango mints from Fields, Marshall and he still has several commodores albums on vinyl.
By Leni
December 8, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
You could send the Big O a carton of smokes for Christmas. What does he smoke,Kools?
By gttim
December 8, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
If the media has such a huge liberal bias, as the wingnuts keep yelling, why are they so scared of the Fairness Doctrine being reimplemented? You figure they would want it? Of, wait a minute, maybe the liberal bias really is a myth the right whines about daily just to work the ref. All media is owned by huge conservative corporations, after all. I know of no major media outlets owned by pinko, commie liberals.
Remember, Georgia is basically Alabama with a progressive city plopped in the middle. Most of Georgia outside of Atlanta is just as backward and uneducated as Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina. That it is indeed trending blue just shows how far the Republican brand has fallen. The GOP has been taken over by atni-intellectuals, religious fruitcakes and wingnuts. They argue beliefs over facts. The prefer ideology over effective ideas. They want to feel superior to somebody, so they hate people different from themselves. Most people see this and they also see that much of the Democratic Party really does care about the people- except maybe DLC Dems. So yes, all states will be trending blue. The GOP has to change to prevent the losses, but they do no appear ready to do so. With Palin and Jindal being touted as future stars of the party, the GOP will fall further. They will be a regional party for the South and Appalachia.
By Cheryl
December 8, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
By Bosch wrote:
Corporal,
Oh My God.
What about cigarettes? Should we stock up on those too? I don’t speak wingnut so help me out dude.
THANK YOU Bosch! That is priceless……. hehehe
By "The Corporal"
December 8, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
To Bosch and DB
Calm down boys.
Don’t get so hyper.
My point is, private Obama has already shown what he says and what he means are two different things (typical politician I might add).
He promised ultra-liberals a lot of things during the campaign to get the vote out (they are not happy) but he is not coming through with those promises. Now personally, I am happy about some of those but what does it say about the man?
P.S. I have everything I need already (which isn’t a whole lot). It’s the point that counts.
“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.
George Washington
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
It’s a good day when you can work the word “sphincter” into everyday general conversation.
Good thinking Midori! PBS (not Public Broadcasting System) - but the Blue Ribbon. Awww….that reminds me of my dad. He used to love that crap…and Perrier. Go figure. Father Bosch is a complicated man.
But back to basics:
So, Corporal, do I need to make a list? So far we have guns, ammo, and I need to know about my smokes.
Who has a food dehydrator? We’ll need one of those for deer jerky, and dehydrated fudge - yes, dehydrated fudge - you know, for Christmas.
And I’ll bring the paper clips, rubber bands, plastic tarps, shoe strings, and let’s see…what else would MacGyver have used?
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Leni,
Kools? Please, he’s a Salem’s kind of guy. Get real.
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Cheryl,
Glad I could help. Any time.
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Corporal,
What’s an ultra-liberal? And can you please provide an example? Ted Kacynski (?sp) doesn’t count.
By "The Corporal"
December 8, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.
I bet you would look good even in a Gunnny sack.
To Bosch
NO! No cigarettes !
The cigarette smokes - you’re just the sucker.
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
Hey, here’s some bait for you wingnuts:
The Tribune Company today filed for bankruptcy.
By Abomi Nation
December 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Actually Obama smokes Marlboro Reds. You just can’t fit Obama into any of your stereotypes can you leni, God knows you try.
By Bosch
December 8, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Corporal,
I’m the sucker. I get it. Snort. That’s so funny (as I roll my eyes).
But if the word is so bad that I have to stock up on guns and ammo, I’m definitely smoking.
By Midori
December 8, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
….what else would MacGyver have used?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
By Mrs. Godzilla
December 8, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
corporal
in womens clothing it’s called gunne sax
and in the 70’s I wore that…..
probably still could, but everything would be a little lower!
By RealityKing
December 8, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
No worries.. The stagnation from Obama’s progressive socialism will bring that ole small government luster roaring back good as new in 2010. You know, just like the mess the left created in the 70’s for Reagan and in the 90’s for Newt Gingrich.
By GodHatesTrash
December 8, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Don’t forget the little cans of Vienna sausages. Jars of mayo for dippin’ sauce.
By Cheryl
December 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
And SPAM - it goes with everything and never goes bad!
By Abomi Nation
December 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Corporal you still haven’t found the smoking gun.
God knows you try. I guess the Obama impeachment will have to wait.
Wait I have it! Obama may have been born in the United States, but where was he conceived??????
After all life, begins at conception right???
OMG, maybe he was conceived in Kenya!
Get your butt over to the Supreme Court. File some papers.
IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!
By DI
December 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Corporal, it’s obvious why you only became a corporal. You’re dense.
By "The Corporal"
December 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
To Mrs. G
………….. :o(
To Bosch
An ultra-liberal is the opposite of me. Got it ?
To Abomi Nation
I know. We tried. But in fairness, the guy who filed the suit said McCain was in the same boat.
By native American
December 8, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
14 out of 16 Republican Senators lost their seats, They were against the Cir, Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill. That says it all.
Close the borders and make CIR a pirority. We are speaking about HUMANS.
God Bless You & America.
By Frederick Douglass
December 8, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
The Dow finished at 298 pts. despite news of more job losses around the country. Economists are actually admitting that maybe the market has touched bottom, and is now starting its ascension. That bit of news coupled with the revelation about Obama’s birth certificate made for a slow day at Rush Limbaugh central.