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He had it coming, that’s for sure

And it’s about time he got it. From the Associated Press:

Voters in Louisiana ousted indicted Democratic Rep. William J. Jefferson on Saturday, electing instead a Republican attorney who will be the first Vietnamese American in Congress.

Unofficial results showed Anh “Joseph” Cao denying Jefferson a 10th term. Republicans made an aggressive push to take the seat from Jefferson, 61, who has pleaded not guilty to charges of bribery, money laundering and misusing his congressional office.

Cao, 41, won Louisiana’s majority-black 2nd Congressional District, which covers much of New Orleans. Just 11 percent of registered voters in the district are Republicans. Turnout appeared to be light.

Voters reelected Jefferson in 2006 even after news of the bribery scandal broke. Late-night TV comics made him the butt of jokes after federal agents said they had found $90,000 in alleged bribe money hidden in his freezer.

Cao came to the United States as a child after the fall of Saigon in 1975 and went on to earn degrees in philosophy, physics and law.

The election was one of two in Louisiana postponed because of Hurricane Gustav. In the other, Republican physician John Fleming defeated Democratic Dist. Atty. Paul Carmouche, 48 percent to 47 percent, to replace retiring Rep. Jim McCrery, a Republican.

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By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

No pop star blowhard promise maker on the democrat ticket, Republicans get elected.

That’s twice now, once in hardcore Repugville, once in the Land of thee Pinkkko.

Now if we don’t run a bunch of McBushie’s in 2010…………….

By getalife

December 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Anh Joseph Cao, a little-known 41-year-old community organizer, liberal and GOP attorney.

Oh, the irony and his daddy probably shot at you Andy.

By GodHatesTrash

December 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

LOL get -

Of course duh has never ever been near combat. Turdy pants like to read about it, though.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: What Koolaid have you been drinking?

Anh “Joseph” Cao came to the US when he was 8 years old and typical of all Vietnamese-Americans in New Orleans, a devout conservative Catholic.-littlesaigoninside

A former Jesuit seminarian, he is a member of the National Advisory Council to the U.S. Conference of Bishops.

Aahhh, yes, a Jesus Freak, I thought those people frightened voters??

He and two siblings fled war-torn Vietnam in 1975, and he eventually earned three college degrees in his new country.

Gosh, why did they have to flee Vietnam in 1975, hmmmmmmm, I wonder, did the democrat surrender unleash some sort of holocaust?

We win.

By Bosch

December 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Immigration attorney at that. One who thinks illegal immigrants deserve a path to citizenship. And he’s a GOP candidate. Wow.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Bosch: He is an immigrant.

Duh.

By leni

December 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

2nd district voters who would have supported Jefferson are still in Houston and other “refuges for refugees from Katrina” living it up at taxpayer expense.

By getalife

December 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Andy,

A wingnut lib. Ha.

I bet he had family members shooting at us.

Obama is telling us the economy will get much worse.

The honesty is refreshing but depressing.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Come on, al-Gitmo, two gigantic election losses in a row isn’t the end of the world.

Man up.

I bet he had family members shooting at us.

So why did he have to flee Vietnam?

You’re hysterical, get a grip on your self.

Literally.

By "The Corporal"

December 7, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Jay

Have you been taking drugs (prescription of course) today? I can’t believe you would say these things about a Democrat.

Off Topic

For those of you who were not being very nice to me about this awhile back:

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama says you won’t catch him lighting up a cigarette in the smoke-free White House.

Notice the word catch?

By getalife

December 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Because he was too young to shoot at us Andy.

Good for you to finally get a grip on reality and realize the Vietnmam war is over.

There is hope for you one day.

By "The Corporal"

December 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

GodHatesTrash

From Previous blog

Senators (except Hillary) and Congressmen (excuse me “Congresspeople”) are protected by the U.S. Capitol Police and they do travel with them depending on the circumstances to accomplish that mission.

By dog breath

December 7, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

what were the numbers?

if it was even a race, that should say sumpthin.

By Midori

December 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

  • two gigantic election losses in a row isn’t the end of the world.*

HUH??

I’m trying to comprehend this comment.

what gigantic election loss? Washington? Martin?

those losses are deemed gigantic??

Washington should never have been re-elected in the first place. He’s a democratic, but he’s also a crook.

He should have been kicked out of the party and the house when the FBI raid found all of that money in his freezer.

And try as I may — I still can’t see where Martin was a “huge loss”.

Everyone always knew that intellectually challenged republicans were going to re-elect him.

I just don’t get it?

By blog monitor

December 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

isit just me, or is midor typing messages on top of messages?

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

They voted the thee socialist Oblahmi into office and now they are whining about the consequences?

CHICAGO (AP) ― Workers who got three days’ notice their factory was shutting its doors voted to occupy the building and said Saturday they won’t go home without assurances they’ll get severance and vacation pay they say they are owed.

Boo hoo hoo.

Get a job with the government you love so much.

By getalife

December 7, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Saints win.

Bwa.

By Road Scholar

December 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

‘….went on to earn degrees in philosophy, physics and law.’

Oh my God!!!!The Repubs nominated and elected an ELITIST!!!!!!!!!!

Good for him. I saw Mr Cao interviewed and he seems to be a level headed, thoughtful, well spoken, intelligent man….I wish him the best in his new job. Hopefully he will not be infected by the negatism of his party.

By Road Scholar

December 7, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

‘….went on to earn degrees in philosophy, physics and law.’

Oh my God!!!!The Repubs nominated and elected an ELITIST!!!!!!!!!!

Good for him. I saw Mr Cao interviewed and he seems to be a level headed, thoughtful, well spoken, intelligent man….I wish him the best in his new job. Hopefully he will not be infected by the negatism of his party.

By farmer joe

December 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Hopefully he will not be infected by the negatism of his party.

ummm. nope, that would be from your sorry asse$$.

bok bok

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

Oh, all is not well within the Pinko Nation-

“I feel incredibly frustrated,” OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers exclaimed. “Even after two landslide elections in a row, are our only governing options as a nation either all right-wing Republicans, or a centrist mixture of Democrats and Republicans? Isn’t there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?” And he asks, “Why isn’t there a single member of Obama’s cabinet who will be advising him from the left?” Writers at the Nation have decried Obama’s national security team as a “kettle of hawks,” denounced his economic aides as acolytes of “recycled Clintonism” who fancy “straight-up neoliberal deference to the market,” and assailed the retaining of Gates as a move that “has a dispiriting, stay-the-course feel to it.”-Washington Post

“Change” you can count on.

Yeah.

By Cheryl

December 7, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

  • By AJC/DNC Management wrote:

No pop star blowhard promise maker on the democrat ticket, Republicans get elected.

That’s twice now, once in hardcore Repugville, once in the Land of thee Pinkkko.

AJC/DNC No disrespect intended here, but Are you crazy? What are you talking about Really?!!!

Louisiana was a RED State, Georgia was a RED State! Even if the same amount of voters turned out for GA runoff, Chambliss would have won because Barr was not in the race to take votes from Saxby. And, in Louisiana, it is also common for Democrats to run as Republicans against other Democrats, (just happened in the LA Senate Race Landrieu vs Kennedy) so YES, it is possible for Cao to be a Liberal Republican.

READ for God’s Sake!

You are consistently so far off the mark it is amazing!

Just way out in “right field” all the time!

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

I posted this on the other blog, I thought you were still over there-

Sen. Chambliss said in his ads, over and over, that he wants to lower our taxes.

He didn’t say he wanted lower taxes, he said Jim Martin would raise them. And he is exactly right. How can you argue a position of lower taxes from the democrat side?

Let’s just say that their kampaign promises aren’t lies and they will give a “tax cut to 95% of the people.” So what good is that when you know full well they are going to tax energy to the hilt? There are going to be road taxes, luxury taxes, public use taxes, you name it, they will bury a surcharge in it.

They think no one has enough sense to see it.

He isn’t for worker retraining, for funding childhood education, or for expanding pell grants for college, for transportation infrastructure in Atlanta, or fuel alternatives, for clean water, and green space.

That’s just simply not true. I’m not going to break it all down but the very first thing on your list-

Atlanta - Workers dislocated from the Brown & Williamson facility in Macon , Georgia will receive transition assistance as the result of a federal grant secured by Governor Sonny Perdue. A $4.2 million workforce retraining grant is being made available by the U.S. Department of Labor. Said Governor Sonny Perdue. “I also appreciate Senators Chambliss and Miller for their assistance facilitating this grant.”

To say that he is against clean water, etc. is nonsense straight from the Huffington Post.

btw, Chicagoans don’t heat their homes with nuclear power, they use the same natural gas as we do here in GA, (Peoples Gas Co, there are regulations in place with controls on pricing) Nuclear plants generate electricity, not natural gas…..

I was responding to this-

It costs more to heat a home here than it does in Chicago, where the average temp in Jan & Feb is 20 - 30 below zero wind chill, because of deregulation. Electricity is more expensive as well in deregulated states such as this one.

I was wondering who would be silly enough to heat their home with electricity but I didn’t go there.

As a voter, If you cannot name One thing that your representative has done

Again, I don’t know where you are getting your information but I can name hundreds of things he has done, some good, some not so good, the not so good mostly when he was working with democrats.

How are illegals Pres Elect Obama’s fault if he hasn’t even been the President yet?

Republicans beat back their leaders and stopped this country killing immigration amnesty, trust me on this one, democrats are going to be beating on their leaders to enact amnesty.

You will be competing with waves of immigrants for jobs, health care, schooling, transportation, all of the things you say that Chambliss does nothing on.

Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something.

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i r o diM: Can’t you see that two adults are having a discussion? Must you lash out, as usual?

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

By Cheryl December 7, 2008 6:00 PM Louisiana was a RED State

Cao, 41, won Louisiana’s majority-black 2nd Congressional District, which covers much of New Orleans. Just 11 percent of registered voters in the district are Republicans.

Of course I’m in right field.

By getalife

December 7, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Cheryl,

He is our little parody troll like rush.

An entertainer not be taken seriously, if you will.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

The scientists and scholars Heartland is assembling are not members of the gloom-and-doom chorus. They dispute the frantic claims that global warming is an onrushing catastrophe; many are skeptical of the notion that human activity has a significant effect on the planet’s climate, or that such an effect can be reliably measured or predicted. Some point out that global temperatures peaked in 1998 and have been falling since then. Indeed, several argue that a period of global cooling is on the way. Nearly all would argue that climate is always changing, and that no one really knows whether current computer models can reliably account for the myriad of factors that cause that natural variability.

But as the list of confirmed speakers for Heartland’s climate-change conference makes clear, it is Gore whose eyes are shut to reality. Among the “climate deniers” lined up to speak are Richard Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at MIT; the University of Alabama’s Roy W. Spencer, a pioneer in the monitoring of global temperatures by satellite; Stephen McIntyre, primary author of the influential Climate Audit blog; and meteorologist John Coleman, who founded the Weather Channel in 1982.-Boston.com

I’m always right.

By Midori

December 7, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

As I mentioned in the other thread:

Jay,

I wish you would talk to Andy and ask him to please stop calling me names.

I’ve asked him several times to stop it, and he is determined not to honor my request.

He even had the gall to copy and post the insult on this thread.

I don’t see why he can not honor a reasonable request.

Likewise, I don’t understand why he always has to result to name calling when trying to make a point.

Thank you.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

You started it-

By Midori December 7, 2008 5:43 PM Cheryl, you’re using logic as a weapon. it’s going to get quite messy when his head explodes. clean up on Blog 4!!

Go back and look at the last week’s worth of threads, you assaulted me several times and I ignored you.

First time I tried to get you to act like an adult and you throw a fit, writing letters to the AJC, just like I said before.

By the way, I’m dyslexic, are you discriminating against me?

By @@

December 7, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

I’m with ‘ya, jay. May he be “frozen” in time. It never ceases to amaze me how someone like Jefferson, who grew up sooooo impoverished, could exploit the impoverished people that voted for him.

Rice is saying that Pakistan was never given a 48-hour deadline, but a lot has been done since it wasn’t issued.

Pakistan Raids Offices of Lashkar-e-Taiba

Pakistan: Armed Forces Seize LeT Camp

And this one! Pakistan: U.S. Wants Asset Freeze For Gul

December 7, 2008 1859 GMT The United States wants the U.N. Security Council to freeze the assets of former Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Hamid Gul and four other former ISI officers, The News reported Dec. 7.

would be icing on the cake.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

Now that is some world class whining at 6:35.

It was 67 years ago today that we were ambushed at Pearl Harbor and dragged into a World War that we had to win to preserve civilization as we know it, only to find out civilization as we know it is somebody crying to the blog monitor.

It’s especially nauseating when the “aggrieved” party is one of the very worst offenders of offering little but personal attack.

By leni

December 7, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

I think that Midol person who’s whining about being picked on needs a Midol

By mike hussein smith

December 7, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Gosh, why did they have to flee Vietnam in 1975, hmmmmmmm, I wonder, did the democrat surrender unleash some sort of holocaust?

AC/DC, you don’t seem to know beans about anything. The 1975 U.S. “surrender” from Vietnam, as you so rabidly call it, occurred in what would have been Richard Nixon’s 7th year as president — had he not tucked tail and ran to save his own hide. It was signed off on by both Kissenger and Ford. So quit your wondering; you’re no good at it.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Yawn-

Historians have directly attributed the fall of Saigon in 1975 to the cessation of American aid. Without the necessary funds, South Vietnam found it logistically and financially impossible to defeat the North Vietnamese army. Moreover, the withdrawal of aid encouraged North Vietnam to begin an effective military offensive against South Vietnam. Given the monetary and military investment in Vietnam, former Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage compared the American withdrawal to “a pregnant lady, abandoned by her lover to face her fate.” 2 Historian Lewis Fanning went so far as to say that “it was not the Hanoi communists who won the war, but rather the American Congress that lost it.”

In the fall of 1974, Nixon resigned under the pressure of the Watergate scandal and was succeeded by Gerald Ford. Congress cut funding to South Vietnam for the upcoming fiscal year from a proposed 1.26 billion to 700 million dollars. These two events prompted Hanoi to make an all-out effort to conquer the South. As the North Vietnamese Communist Party Secretary Le Duan observed in December 1974: “The Americans have withdrawn…this is what marks the opportune moment.”

Uh, the democrats controlled Congress in 1974.

By mike hussein smith

December 7, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

Through her remarks, Ihave found Midori to be a responsible person, and I hate to see the bullies on the right take after her. RW, your post was particularly nauseating. Soldiers died so Midori would have the right to talk to Jay about ac/dc’s daily inappropriate statements, which are intended only to aggrevate and hurt other people on this blog. Those same soldiers even died for your right to spread your bile. So smoke on that for a while.

By Midori

December 7, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

well, Leni — I think you and all your personalities need to grow up.

By @@

December 7, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

O-:MG!

Jay,

I wish you would talk to Andy and ask him to please stop calling me names.

And here I thought you were the biggest, baddest, “b” on the blog.

Bosch will be so disappointed in you.

jay, would you please post something to Midori? She lives alone, you know.

By getalife

December 7, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

Yeah @@,

Pahkistan (as our new President calls it) is itching to bomb the crap out of them and Hillary is itching to obliberate Iran.

Tough enough for ya?

By getalife

December 7, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

He is dyslexic.

Bwa.

By RW-(the original)

December 7, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

mhs,

I’m not surprised by what you find reasonable.

By Midori

December 7, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

@@,

you’re another entity that sorely needs to grow up.

your juvenile taunts and childish games make you look like a 5 year old who sorely needs a time out.

I don’t consider myself either big or bad.

Jay imposed standards of civility on this board, and I intend to abide by them.

You really need some help.

You remind me of the little girl in kindergarten who would pull up her dress in order to garner attention.

I get that impression each and every time I read one of your posts.

And I think Bosch should speak for himself, shouldn’t he?

However, I can’t imagine why he would be disappointed in my asking Andy to stop behaving like one of your kindergarten mates.

By Midori

December 7, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

By the way @@,

I see you got a lot of pleasure and mileage in my comments about living alone.

I was trying to express to those I was talking to that most people who live alone don’t go all out and cook large Thanksgiving dinners.

Leave it to you to take it the wrong way and try to turn it into something perversive.

But then you do that a lot.

You constantly troll this board for my comments so that you can have something to latch onto , and then start giggling like the adolescent minded person that you are.

I feel sorry for you.

By getalife

December 7, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

“Obama on those factory workers occupying their factory in Chicago, demanding their benefits and pay. “When it comes to the situation here in Chicago with the workers who are asking for their benefits and payments they have earned, I think they are absolutely right. What’s happening to them is reflective of what’s happening across this economy.”

Change.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

omtiG-la: Is there something wrong with being dyslexic?

You libs would attack a little puppy, wouldn’t you?

By "The Corporal"

December 7, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

I think it is good that Mr. Cao (not Nguyễn but Joseph) is going to Congress.

I remember in late 1967, the company I was with “set in” around a village for one of their elections. The peace loving V.C. had let it be known they would kill anyone who voted.

Mr. Cao has come a long way. They haven’t.

By Soixante huitard

December 7, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Liberal, in-the-tank media update:

In today’s edition of the shamelessly pinko, socialist rag mouthpiece NY Times, Frank Rich warns of another “best and brightest” team (as in, NOT) in Obama’s financial team:

I keep wondering why the honeymoon hagiography about the best and the brightest has been so over the top. Washington’s cheerleading for our new New Frontier cabinet superstars has seldom been interrupted by tough questions about Summers’s Harvard career or Geithner’s record at the Fed.

Jeez. I mean, with mindless puffball praise like this for the can-do-no-wrong left, who needs O’Reilly and Limbaw?

By getalife

December 7, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

No way Andy.

I ♥ puppies.

By getalife

December 7, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

“Must have been quite the holiday party at the vice president’s house this week: old chums Dick Cheney and Karl Rove tossing back a few eggnogs and talking about the possibility of a preemptive presidential pardon. Or evaluating the first steps of the Bush Legacy Project. No doubt there was a lot of backslapping when Fox’s Chris Wallace stopped by. Earlier in the week, Wallace had vociferously defended Bush against criticisms leveled by Frost/Nixon filmmaker Ron Howard at a screening of the film. At the VP’s party, a “genuinely grateful” Cheney thanked Wallace for standing up for the president and promised him “a special exit interview” in a couple of weeks. Should be very fair and balanced. In other holiday party news: the Treasury Department holiday bash will be held in the department’s “Cash Room.” Emptiest room in the place, I suppose.” The HP.

Not change.

By mike hussein smith

December 7, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Congress couldn’t cut off funding for the Vietnam war without the president signing off on it. Ford could simply have vetoed bills that cut funding and kept fighting the war. There were not enough anti-war Dems even at that late date to override a veto. But Ford didn’t stick his neck out and do that because he realized the American people were damn tired of that war. And even in ‘75, there probably was no clear path to a U.S. victory except for dropping a nuke on Hanoi.

BTW, Midori, I’ve been meaning to thank you for your pre-election link to the Geezer/Dingbat photo. That’s a classic.

By Greg Mendel

December 7, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

“Historians have directly attributed the fall of Saigon in 1975 to the cessation of American aid.” — Cut & Paste

Good for them. Pegging an earlier date, say, 1963, it would have been due to US failure to offer aid in the first place. But we did, and had 58,000 Americans killed in the interlude.

Tell us about your military career, chickenhawk.

By Cheryl

December 7, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Thank you Midori,

And to AJC/DNC

I say, look up the votes…… It’s all about the votes. Anyone can say they supported something.

Here you go:

S Amendment 3810 Vote to adopt an amendment that would grant subsidies to part-time farmers, ranchers, or foresters with an average adjusted gross income that does not exceed $250,000 and to full-time farmers, ranchers, or foresters with an average adjusted gross income that does not exceed $750,000 and would increase funding for certain programs.

Senator Chambliss voted NO - No to helping small farmers with subsidies, but yes to Corporate Farm subsidies…..

SB 2611 Vote to pass a bill that increases border security and enforcement laws, establishes criteria for U.S. citizenship, and provides financial assistance programs for areas of immigration.

Establishes criminal penalties to immigrants who illegally enter or are present in the U.S., those who employ undocumented immigrants, and those who participate in undocumented immigrant harboring or smuggling (Sec 274(a)(1)(2)(b) and 275(a))

Senator Chambliss voted NO

Clean water & Alternative energy….. Voted No on Alternative Energy Tax Incentives, Voted NO on Carbon Emissions Caps Voted YES on Shale and Offshore Natural Gas Drilling Voted NO on the Corporate Average Fuel Efficiency Amendment Voted NO on the Clean Air Mercury Rule Voted YES on the Energy and Water Development Appropriations Act, 2002 - the major portions went to the Army Corps of Engineers, reclamation and Nuclear Waste storage and removal…… Not so clean, and how bout that corp of engineers….. can you say failed levees in 2005… money well spent right?

To his credit, he did Vote YES to the Safe Drinking water amendment, but who would vote against that?
could go on…..

And finally, that $4.2 mil workforce grant was in 2003, and Michael Thurmond requested the emergency funding from the US Dept of Labor. This is 2008 almost 2009.

Like I said it’s not about Repubs or Dems, it’s about if they have the job, then make them do it!

That’s the truth…..

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, the liberal democrats wanted to war on in Vietnam forever, what, another hundred years they were saying when Ford cut them off.

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Cheryl: I would have voted the same way Chambliss did except for that immigration deal.

It’s almost as though any of that legislation makes a bit of difference to what you started out this evening whining about, taxes, low wages, blah, blah, except none of it does.

Why are you changing the subject, I wonder?

It’s pretty easy to easy to find out what a legislature voted for or against and then complain about it, except for Oblahmi, who voted “present” on everything.

By @@

December 7, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

I feel sorry for you.

Well there’s certainly no need for you to feel sorry for me Midori. Unlike you, I don’t ask for sympathy….pity….whatever you wanna call it.

I don’t think living alone causes someone to be “perversive”. I have, however witnessed some extremely perverse attacks from you over the years. Care to revisit the past?

Heck Midori! I was trying to help you find a date.

No need to get all melancholy.

Jay imposed standards of civility on this board, and I intend to abide by them.

Great! but after witnessing the unprovoked abuse you’ve heaped on conservative bloggers over the years, I have to ask…….

ever heard of kharma?

Know it! Live it! Learn to love it!

By mike hussein smith

December 7, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

I can cut & paste, too.

Nevertheless, Congress never actually cut off funding for US troops in Vietnam, despite the massive and sustained opposition to the war that developed among the American people. There were some restrictions imposed on escalation of the war, including a ban on invading North Vietnam and limits on US military actions in Cambodia and Laos. The cutoff of funds voted by Congress in 1974, after US troops had been withdrawn, applied only to the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN), the puppet military force which was already on its last legs and ultimately collapsed in April 1975.

Right-wing elements, many of them prominent in the current administration, have in recent years promoted the claim that congressional action sabotaged what would otherwise have been a successful American policy in Vietnam, but this pretense is absurd. As Henry Kissinger admitted, the Nixon administration was well aware of the hopelessness of the Saigon regime, and only wanted “a decent interval” between the final US troop withdrawal, in 1973, and the collapse of the puppet state two years later.

By "The Corporal"

December 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

mike hussein smith

A few things to keep in mind:

1) Geography. If Laos had been the Sea of Laos we wouldn’t be having the discussion as Vietnam was only 53 miles wide at the DMZ.

2) To my knowledge we never mined North Vietnam’s harbors and bombing the big dam (to flood Hanoi) was off limits.

3) We didn’t have the guts to cut the Ho Chi Minh trails (plural) with ground troops.

4) We were about 15 years behind the curve for smart bombs, cruise missles, etc. which would have made a big difference (i.e., the railroad bridges from China that were never cut).

5) If there was immorality in the war in Vietnam, it was that a democratic nation called her citizens to war, had them killed by the tens of thousands, and then, like a faithless lover, turned and scorned the survivors. Oh, perfidious nation! David Donovan

By Soixante huitard

December 7, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

Test.

By Midori

December 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

@@,

do you sign up on message boards looking for men? women?

Is that why you keep twisting my words, and you keep trying to turn a completely innocent comment into something sleazy and perverse?

Are you trying to project your behavior onto me? Is that the only way you can meet people?

You poor, pitiful thing you.

I’ll light a candle for you tonight.

Good Night all.

By Soixante huitard

December 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

Test

By @@

December 7, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

do you sign up on message boards looking for men?

No need to look, I’ve got one.

I’ll light a candle for you tonight.

Is that what they’re calling a doobie nowadays?

Outta here! Work tomorrow.

By "The Corporal"

December 7, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

To Soixi

Long time no debate !!

Off Topic/Off Color

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President-elect Barack Obama failed to give a straight answer when asked on a U.S. talkshow on Sunday whether he had managed to quit smoking.

So Barack Obama uses cigarettes and Bill Clinton used a cigar - big deal!

By GMAN

December 8, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

When asked whether he cheated on his 1st wife with his now current wife, Senator John McClain failed to give a straight answer

So John McCain is an adulterer - big deal!

By GodHatesTrash

December 8, 2008 4:55 AM | Link to this

Larry Craig failed to give a straight answer, too.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 8, 2008 5:32 AM | Link to this

Obama supports bailout with conditions

Rick Wagoner, the chief executive of GM, “has to move on,” Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

“I think you have got to consider new leadership,” Dodd said. Asked if that should be a condition of any bailout, he said, “I think it is going to have to be part of it.”-Urinal

This is dangerous in ways a moron life long senator from a totally failed institution like Congress can even begin to understand.

It’s so…………….third world.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 8, 2008 5:37 AM | Link to this

Oh well, goody!

Another Republican self help column from the pinkos coming up here shortly.

Gosh, do they never tire of “advising” us on how to “succeed?”

By AJC/DNC Management

December 8, 2008 5:44 AM | Link to this

Forgotten, at least for the moment, was the fact that John McCain had carried Georgia by only five percentage points, compared to George Bush’s margin of 17 points in 2004, and that in the general election Chambliss had led Jim Martin by only three points.-Bookman, Urinal

This might be hard for some to figure out but Bush was the “Conservative” candidate and McCain was the squishy reach across the aisle moderate.

Who won by a bigger margin?

By GodHatesTrash

December 8, 2008 6:17 AM | Link to this

Little Miss Poopy Pants doesn’t know this, but Hensley- McCain got almost 100,000 more votes than her hero did in 2004.

By Paul

December 8, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this

Management 5:32

[[“I think you have got to consider new leadership,” Dodd said. ]]

Asked if he was speaking of himself and other members of Congress, given the huge deficits, failing to cut programs enacted years ago, failing to bring fresh ideas to the table and failure to pass significant, new legislation, Sen Dodd replied, “Huh? Hey, wait a minute! That’s different!”

By AJC/DNC Management

December 8, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this

Whatever policy Washington pursues, a quick and painless recovery is not going to happen, and the only real question is whether Democrats will delay recovery by implementing liberal policies that make a very bad situation even worse.

Just as the failure of the Democratic economic agenda is a foregone conclusion, their political agenda — expecting voters to wait patiently for the delivery of the promised Hope — will meet the same nuance-free fate: It won’t work.-AmSpec

Patience is all the Republicans need.

By Fred S.

December 8, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

By AJC/DNC Management

December 7, 2008 1:03 PM Gosh, why did they have to flee Vietnam in 1975, hmmmmmmm, I wonder, did the democrat surrender unleash some sort of holocaust?

Take a history course moron! Republicans were in office from 1968-1976. Richard Nixon…peace with honor. Remember that one? Vietnamization. Remember that one? Gerald Ford. Sound familiar jackazz?

By "The Corporal"

December 8, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

To GMAN

We all are.

“Whoever looks upon a woman to lust ……. “

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