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By DB, Gwinnettian

December 2, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

What a kooky lot, those Latvians.

Good thing our nation would never persecute individuals simply because they published unpleasant truths.

By leni

December 2, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this

In Myanmar (Burma to those of us who refuse to change names (reality) for political purposes) has just sentenced a comedian to 57 years in prison for making jokes about the government. Imagine!

About the economy?—-Robert Rubin, Robert Rubin,Robert Rubin.

About reality?—Jim Kramer this morning: “People should not use the word ‘depression’ .”

By Taxpayer

December 2, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this

Denying reality doesn’t change reality! Funny, that never stopped Bush. As far as Latvia is concerned, the election is over and the Republicans lost so we don’t need any more reasons at the moment to vote out the Republicans.

By Bud Wiser

December 2, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

Through the early and middle parts of the political season, right up until the September collapse on Wall Street, the Republicans were still claiming that the economy was doing just fine…..

Let us not forget the Congressional committees, most notably the one headed by blowhard Barney Frank, who testified before Congress the very same about Fannie and Freddie, etc, etc.

As far as Latvia, who cares? And Taxpayer, I’d get my head out of the sand or wherever you park it, and get over the election thing. Your team of Clinton retreads won, so now what are they going to do about it? Is this the Change you can believe in crap they fed the ignorant masses to get elected? Yeah, its change alright, change back to the past, garbage, baggage and all.

By reebok

December 2, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

I, for one, find it entirely plausible that Saxby Chambliss does not know what the term “recession” means. I’ve heard him speak, and there seem to be MANY terms that he does not understand.

By DB, Gwinnettian

December 2, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Along with the firm belief in unreality comes the notion that 2008 was a failure for the GOP due to some out-of-the-blue event—in this case, a “nobody-could-have-anticipated” credit meltdown.

The same way that the 2006 failure was due to some out-of-the-blue event—in that case, weird and wacky Congressional scandals. (But they included “Dollar Bill” Jefferson, so shouldn’t that have hurt the Dems as well?)

I suppose on one level I should be glad that, apparently, a substantial percentage of the GOP faithful and leadership continue to think their misfortunes are due to weird, beyond-their-organizational control happenstance. I should be glad they’ll likely continue to field candidates whose positions on issues bear no resemblance to those of a majority of Americans’, and run utterly tone-deaf campaigns.

But I’m fine with the national Republican party, embracing a reality-based model for the first time since, oh, around the spring of 1980, any time they’re ready to do so.

By Soixante huitard

December 2, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

Phil who?

That bit about Latvia was from The Onion right?

Anyway, whoever thought that one up, pretty funny. Had a nice chuckle this morning with my coffee.

By Morningstar

December 2, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

(((Saxby Chambliss enlisted in the effort as well, claiming back in July that �We may not be in a recession. I don�t know what that term means.�They were wrong, of course. Most Americans knew in their gut that something was wrong)))

You betcha. Any ‘thinking’ person who knew anything at all about what was going on in the real estate and banking business, would have known we’ve been in a recession all along.

Human nature dictates that we all wish everything to be OK, but one would think common sense would occasionally kick in.

Go vote!!!

By lovelyliz

December 2, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Why can’t one who creates facts also create their own reality?

By Taxpayer

December 2, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

This Bud’s for you:

[[[ By Bud Wiser December 2, 2008 8:06 AM …Let us not forget the Congressional committees, most notably the one headed by blowhard Barney Frank, who testified before Congress the very same about Fannie and Freddie, etc, etc…]]]

First of all, Bud, the election is over so Get OVER IT,

Second, try dealing with the facts. Especially the ones that will affect us well after the demise of the Republicans that wrought this destruction on us. Take the following, for example:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Bush administration backed off proposed crackdowns on no-money-down, interest-only mortgages years before the economy collapsed, buckling to pressure from some of the same banks that have now failed. It ignored remarkably prescient warnings that foretold the financial meltdown, according to an Associated Press review of regulatory documents,

Finally, Bud, you should be more concerned about where you have decided to park your own head.

There, I hope this retort meets with your approval, Jay.

By SOUTHERN ATL

December 2, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

GEORGIA, The world is watching….and there will be a lot of analysis of this “GREAT STATE” based on the outcome of this election….I am hoping that we will choose WISELY…..and be able to hold our heads high as the “NEW SOUTH”………..It is a cold day but please get out and VOTE!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8IqkRbxcTA&feature=related

It is vital that JIM MARTIN wins……PEACE!!

By Soixante huitard

December 2, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Human nature dictates that we all wish everything to be OK …

And ideology dictates that human beings relentlessly suppress all that does not correspond to the official rosy picture.

Definition of ideology:

A brutal campaign of forgetting and ignorance.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 2, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Recession: 2 consecutive quarters of negative economic growth.

Perhaps if we “create” a recession before we actually enter one, then we can blame it the people who didn’t cause it.

No problem, maybe y’all can whip up a report next summer saying that we’ve been in a depression for years, to get the heat of your little pompous failure.

By Eric1

December 2, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

The change is at the top, Butt Wizer. Change from moron to thoughtful intelligence. As far as Clinton “retreads” are concerned, if memory serves, they gave us eight years of peace and prosperity.

By Soixante huitard

December 2, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Perhaps if we �create� a recession before we actually enter one, then we can blame it the people who didn�t cause it.

Definition of ideological obfuscation part II: the attempt to divert blame and attention by claiming that words don’t matter and dismissing technical terminology as irrelevant and rigged when it’s inconvenient to your cause.

By leni

December 2, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

omnia republica delenda est

and Mr. Bookman’s special needs kids are licking the dust

taste better than paste?

taste better than play-doh?

By Bosch

December 2, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

When I saw Jay’s headline this morning, I thought, “Wow, that could be about almost anything in wingnut world.”

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Off Topic

An editorial in today’s AJC compares the Obama’s family values to those of Ward and June Cleaver.

I’m sorry, but I can’t see either of the Cleaver’s voting to end the life of a child born through a botched abortion.

By Morningstar

December 2, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Southern ATL @ 8:46AM

Thanks Southern ATL. It’s been a while since I listened to Ray Charles sing “Georgia.” Makes me ‘tear up.’

Georgia became a progressive state after that Lester Maddox fiasco way back when. At some point many of the democrats (‘scuse me - Dixiecrats) switched to the Republican party due to race issues. All one needs to do is take a look at the rural areas, as well as some of the burbs. They get their news from Faux and Limbaugh. Some get their ‘news’ from a double digit IQ preacher subtly (and sometimes not subtly) projecting their end of time ideas from the pulpit. I’m a regular church goer and a Christain, but don’t mix it in the church please. It’s a ‘divider,’ not a ‘uniter.’

Then we have all those ‘move ins’ from the other 49 states, mostly from the North. Y’all think we have born and bred all the rednecks here in Georgia? Get a grip. I could tell you some stories!! Nope! I’m not fingerpointing at my Yankee friends, and I DO have quite a few. I’m stating that people are the same everywhere. Some are better educated; hence, they are more economically stable, but the brain waves that promote their ideology or whatever you wish to call it, are the same.

Go vote! Take Granny, Great Aunt Susie and your elderly neighbor with you!!

By Bosch

December 2, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Corporal,

Gee, I couldn’t see that either considering both are fictional characters.

Talk about denying reality.

By Taxpayer

December 2, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Andy,

You do know about the NBER and its function, don’t you?

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Here’s some reality

Headline: Jews in Mumbai tortured before they were executed ….

They will come for you first Jay. You liberals had better wake up.

By @@

December 2, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

this former Soviet republic recently took a novel step to contain the crisis. Its counterespionage agency busted an economist for being too downbeat.

I couldn’t help but laugh when I read today’s column, jay.

Last night you deleted Andy’s comment because………?

I’ve stored away this visual in my mind’s eye of you, jay making decisions about whose speech should be suppressed.

It’s the e-trade commercial with the little asian guy about to make his first online transaction. All the kids standing behind him, wide-eyed in anticipation. He hesitates until one kid says “Go ahead Mr. jay……pull the trigger.” All the little children clap and cheer in celebration.

Too funny!

and somewhat frightening.

By AmVet

December 2, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

From downstairs, but worth a reprise for our neo-con “economists”:

Every so often a Reich-wing moron here gives BushCo a free pass on this administration�s complicity in the attempted corporate destruction of capitalism. Utterly uninformed and unread, they often invoke the name of the sodomite, Cong. Franks, as the �real� reason for the nightmare we now face.

And other myopic buffoons here regularly attribute the downward spiraling DJIA as evidence that it is somehow Obama�s fault!

No wonder these idiotic/repulsive Republicans-first keep seeing their “conservative” heroes either jumping ship to avoid the embarrassment of running or getting slaughtered in November elections from one end of the country to the other. (Excluding here in the Moron Belt, of course.)

Most Americans are absolutely sick of them, their corruption/avarice and their glee in destroying everything from the planet to the markets.

Fortunately, like the Nazis, they only remained in power a little over a decade.

The Bush administration backed off proposed crackdowns on no-money-down, interest-only mortgages years before the economy collapsed, buckling to pressure from some of the same banks that have now failed. It ignored remarkably prescient warnings that foretold the financial meltdown, according to a review of regulatory documents.

Bowing to aggressive lobbying - along with assurances from banks that the troubled mortgages were OK - regulators delayed action for nearly one year. By the time new rules were released late in 2006, the toughest of the proposed provisions were gone and the meltdown was under way.

The administration�s blind eye to the impending crisis is emblematic of a philosophy that trusted market forces and discounted the need for government intervention in the economy. Its belief ironically has ushered in the most massive government intervention since the 1930s.

Many of the banks that fought to undermine the proposals by some regulators are now either out of business or accepting billions in federal aid to recover from a mortgage crisis they insisted would never come. Many executives remain in high-paying jobs, even after their assurances were proved false.

They (along with many others in the private sector and some in government) should be doing time for fraud in a federal pen being some large man�s �little banker��

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

To Bosch

Will then, by your logic the liberal writer of the editorial shouldn’t have used fictional characters either - correct?

Just how would YOU vote on that issue Bosch?

By Bosch

December 2, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Corporal,

Did the Editorial author bring up the abortion issue, or are you just trying to throw that topic in today?

The last time I noticed, abortion is still legal, so I do not have to vote on that issue.

But if I did, my vote, like any other vote on any other issue would be none of your damn business.

By getalife

December 2, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Don’t be scared @@.

I have been banned at Free Republic after one post.

I have been banned on “progressive” er lib blogs for supporting Hillary.

The owners of such blogs can “pull the trigger” as they wish.

By Morningstar

December 2, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

@@ @ 9:32AM- I know a lot of people, in fact many who were work in the construction industry, and believe me they are not laughing. The same goes for the automobile industry.

We have a serious economic disaster that has been obvious for at least 2 years, and BOTH parties have had a hand in this disaster. Now let’s see if BOTH parties have enough sense to start turning things around.

Pray for more snow! And go vote!!!

By getalife

December 2, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Yes, if you want to hold somebody accountable for the bailouts and recession you can,

Fire suxby today!

By Midori

December 2, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

you know what real torture is?

reading Corporal’s posts.

By Paul

December 2, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

DB 7:36

Oh yeah, Valerie has a book out. Little late, but it’s out. So gotta drum up interest?

Question of the day: who was the first person to identify Valerie’s status as ‘covert?” Not that she worked for the CIA. Not even that she was an ‘agent’. That she was ‘covert.’ Hint: it wasn’t Bush, Rove, Libby, Novak or Armitage. First right answer gets you an autographed book.

leni 7:44

[[In Myanmar (Burma to those of us who refuse to change names (reality) for political purposes) ]]

That, following Jay’s headline “Denying Reality Doesn’t Change Reality.” Good one! LOL!

BudWiser 8:06

[[Let us not forget the Congressional committees, most notably the one headed by blowhard Barney Frank, who testified before Congress the very same about Fannie and Freddie, etc, etc.]]

Good point. So you’re saying denying reality is not the sole province of Republicans? My other comments on how that is different from the recession topic are in my response to Jay, below.

Soixante huitard 8:43

[[And ideology dictates that human beings relentlessly suppress all that does not correspond to the official rosy picture.]]

Another example of ideology crossing Party lines? Such as statements by Democratic leaders and activists on the Iraq situation after the surge? And the ensuing silence? I suppose one could argue ‘silence’ does not mean ‘denial.’ Wasn’t The Iraq War supposed to be The Number One Issue of the Campaign?

Jay

For consistency’s sake, can we have agreement on definitions? Remember Charlie Schumer’s “It may not technically be a recession but to people it feels like one” comment (at least, I think it was Schumer).

A recession, according to economists, is two quarters of decline. Economists said we didn’t have two quarters of decline (I know they call it “negative growth”). Democrats, to make political hay, said “we are too in a recession, Pres Bush and you incompetent Republicans! There’s an election! Vote Democratic!

Then, as usually happens, some months pass and economists revise their call. Updated data and all that. Again, they said “Whoopsie, lookit the new numbers! Whaddaya know, two quarters of negative growth!”

Does it mean Republicans were wrong? No. Just imagine an Econ test: “The economy grew by 0.1 percent in Q1 and 0.1 percent in Q2. Was the economy in recession?”

Answer “Well, it sure feels like one” and see how many points you get. (what is it about Democrats and “feelings” vs “facts”, anyway?).

So, Jay, I have to agree with your “Denying Reality Doesn’t Change Reality” headline. If one follows accepted definitions of a term (recession), then denying Reality (not having two quarters of decline) doesn’t change Reality (doesn’t meet the definition of recession).

Even if later events, based upon updated data, prove the experts were incorrect. Take your premise to other situations:

“Wisconsin election officials announced Al Franken won the Senate election. Sen Coleman disputed this, saying it sure felt like he won. Election officials conducted a recount, confirming their earlier announcement that Sen Coleman won. Franken said forget determining winners by the most ballots, he felt like he’d won.

“One week later, 500 ballots, all marked for Franken, were found in a cleaning supplies box at a central polling station. Officials certified the ballots and announced Franken the winner.”

Updated, after the fact data, does not mean a guess based on feelings is anything other than a guess based on feelings.

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

To Bosch

Well if you noticed the first two words of my post it said Off Topic. So yes I threw it in!

Yes, the killing of unborn children is still sadly legal but I will let the world know my vote.

Stop it!

And I could never vote as Obama did to take the life of one still so desperately trying to live after a botched abortion.

God help us!

By Truthman

December 2, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Quote from John McCain in 2002 about Zaxby Chambliss’ putting pictures of Saddam Hussein and OBL next to then Sen. Max Cleland:

“Putting pictures of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden next to the picture of a man who left three limbs on the battlefield, it’s worse than disgraceful; it’s reprehensible!”

Those were JOHN MCCAIN’S OWN WORDS!! Think about that when you enter the voting booth today!!

Dump Zaxby the Chicken Man!!!

By Morningstar

December 2, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

By “The Corporal” December 2, 2008 9:18 AM

Now, now Corporal. Why are you trying to throw the Abortion issue in today? We’ve been through this dialogue before, and EVERYONE, democrat and republican, knows abortion could have been STOPPED in it’s tracks during the 6 years the R’s had control of EVERYTHING.

I will not go through this again, because this is NOT AN ISSUE for the republican party, it’s a POLITICAL tool, and a really good one.

Although I don’t advocate abortion except in extreme situations, as you stated in your 9:59AM, “Stop it.” I’m sure the R’s will then cooperate with the D’s to ensure that children have the proper health care, a decent place to live, and a quality education.

It’s the “RIGHT” thing to do!!!

By Truthman

December 2, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Hey Private!

It’s called CHOICE!!! If you don’t want an abortion, don’t have one!

My ex and I never had an abortion, and we’re raising two beautiful, loving, intelligent, liberal children!!

(Jay, please censor insults directed at my children as I’m sure TC will do!)

By Doggone/GA

December 2, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

“Yes, the killing of unborn children is still sadly legal but I will let the world know my vote.”

No, it isn’t. An “unborn child” is a foetus that is at a developmental stage where it ought to be capable of sustaining life outside the womb. Terminating a pregnancey when the foetus is at that stage of development is not an “abortion” - it is an induced delivery and the resulting child is already protected by the laws against murder.

“And I could never vote as Obama did to take the life of one still so desperately trying to live after a botched abortion.”

Fortunately, then, neither did Obama. First of all, a “botched abortion” would be one where the foetus is NOT removed from the womb, and hence the pregnancy continues. Any abortion where the foetus is removed from the womb and where the foetus is not developmentally at a stage where it can sustain life outside the womb is a SUCCESSFUL abortion.

And again, if a pregnancy is terminated and the foetus IS developmentally at a stage where it should be able to sustain life outside the womb that is NOT AN ABORTION - it is an induced delivery.

Obama voted against that law because it was unnecessary. The existing laws already cover a child delivered through induced delivery.

NO FOETUS EVER SURIVES AN ABORTION, unless the abortion is unsuccesful in removing the foetus and the pregnancy continues. Abortions are performed before the stage where a foetus is developmentally capable of sustaing life outside the womb. It doesn’t matter how “alive” a foetus is when it’s removed during an abortion - it is NOT GOING TO LIVE, because it is not developmentally capable of living and we do not have the technology to sustain it until it DOES reach that developmental stage.

By @@

December 2, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Morningstar:

I’m well aware of the impact on construction and autoworkers since I know people in both industries. I have a neighbor who owns his own electrical company (construction). He had the good sense to diet during the feast and subsequently was well prepared for the famine. His only concern was which workers he would let go. It was the unreliable he cut. Those that showed up everyday giving him a full-day’s work for a full-day’s pay are still with him.

The autoworkers? I have little sympathy for them. If they and the democrats had their way, the nation would maintain a perpetual jobs bank. 95% pay for doing absolutely nothing.

By @@

December 2, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Oops! the answer to Paul’s question.

Question of the day: who was the first person to identify Valerie�s status as �covert?�

Her husband, Joe Wilson.

By Truthman

December 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Morningstar, I wish to echo your point and expand on one I raised last week:

The R’s are there until the baby’s head crowns, then they’re out the door.

An R asked me who I was supporting after their birth and I didn’t have an answer…but then I thought a little more and the right answer came to me: I’m willin to pay more taxes to ensure that baby has adequate health care, that the mother has adequate day care so she can get job training and not have to work at McDonald’s for $7.25/hr, and I’m willing to pay more taxes to improve our PUBLIC schools.

That’s the difference, I’m willin to pay more taxes to make America a better place for the least of us.

If you are a christian, how about “casting your bread upon the water?” That’s what your bible says!

By joey

December 2, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Deny reality:

That is exactly what Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters and dozens of other Democrats did in 2006 when they blasted the people who came to warn them about trouble at Fannie Mae and Freddi Mac.

Dodd, Frank and Waters did not arrest, like Lativa, the people sounding the alarm but they damn sure muzzled them.

Meanwhile Jay, his peers and his sheep still cannot admit the reality that Democrats started this, Democrats refused to stop it, and Democrats refused to allow any warning to escape Congress.

Shameful but typical.

By Truthman

December 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

@@…still holding on to you guns, guts and lack of reality, I see!

By Bosch

December 2, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Joey is still on the “It’s all the Democrats fault” mantra I see.

Pathetic.

By Truthman

December 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

joey…blah, blah, blah!!

Hey Jay, I’m proud to be one of your sheep. History always shows that conservatives have been on the wrong side of all social issues (child labor, 40 hr work week, Social Security, paid vacation, family leave, employer-paid health insurance, a woman’s right to choose what happens to her body, the right to death with dignity…I could go on and on)!

Signed,

Proud sheep of Jay’s flock!! BAAAA!!!

By Midori

December 2, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

You Republicans will never go forward until you admit and own up to the failures of your “leadership”.

Instead you want to keep throwing up strawmen in the guise of Barney Frank, etc.

Barney Frank hasn’t been running this country the past 7 plus years.

By leni

December 2, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Did someone mention Max stoned or fragged Cleland?

By Taxpayer

December 2, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

I don’t recall the writers of Leave it to Beaver ever broaching the topic of abortion, Corporal. Do you have a particular episode in mind.

By Paul

December 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

@@

[[Question of the day: who was the first person to identify Valerie�s status as �covert?�

Her husband, Joe Wilson.]]

DingDingDing!!! You win!!

To claim your prize, you have to go to a book signing and ask “Can you sign that ”Love and Kisses from Valerie Plame and her loving husband, who outed me and made us rich”?

Shoulda known it’d be you who knew and would answer. Others probably knew but wouldn’t admit it out loud. Hey, is that another example of Denying Reality Doesn’t Change Reality?

:-)

By joey

December 2, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

And you Democrats never accept responsibility for any error, mistake, bad decision or wrongdoing.

But you are right about Barney, Dodd and Waters being straw-people. None of them has a backbone and all are heartless.

By jacksmith

December 2, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

WE HAVE MORE TO DO:

Democrat Jim Martin is in a runoff against Bush Republican Saxby Chambliss for the Senate seat from Georgia. Bush’s Saxby Chambliss voted against spending a few measly dollars to provide health care coverage for Georgia, and Americas needy children. But he supported wasting hundreds of billions of your dollars, and the life BLOOD of Americas finest on an unnecessary war in Iraq.

At a time when 47 million of you have no health insurance coverage, and over 100 million of you with insurance are just one major illness away from complete financial destruction. Bush and Saxby Chambliss voted to make the heart break of bankruptcy relief even harder for all of you to use.

You see, Bush and Saxby Chambliss, and his family don’t have to worry about their health care coverage. They have the finest health care coverage your tax money can buy for them. Courtesy of you. The American Tax payer. In fact, no one but the super rich can afford the health care coverage you the tax payer provide for Saxby Chambliss, and his family for FREE! with your tax dollars.

He supposedly works for you. But he doesn’t think you and your family should have access to the type of taxpayer supported FREE health care that you provide for him, and his loved ones for FREE!. Doesn’t that just make you BURRING MAD!

Vote for JIM MARTIN for US senator from Georgia. Vote for JIM Martin who will be on your side. Vote for JIM MARTIN who will work with President Obama and a majority congress for you. Vote for JIM MARTIN most of all for your-self, your family’s, friends, and loved ones. Vote for JIM MARTIN for a better America, and a better World.

Don’t let Saxby Chambliss make a chump out of you by tricking you into voting against your own best interest. Saxby chambliss is NOT! on your side. He’s not one of you. He is on George Bush’s side. And we all know what a catastrophe the Bush Chambliss administration has been the past 8 years.

Contact all your family and friends and do every thing you can to see to it that JIM MARTIN and GEORGIANS! take that senate seat back for Georgia, and America. No matter where you live in America. This is important to you. President Obama will need all the help, and power you can give him to try and fix this catastrophic mess that the Corrupt Bush Chambliss administration has created.

As I said before you will have to vote in overwhelming numbers to overcome the Bush Chambliss “Let Them Eat Cake” vote fraud machine. Vote early if you can. Then help everyone you can get to the polls and vote for JIM MARTIN. You and your loved ones don’t have to be Saxby Chambliss’s victims anymore.

I know you will get it done. Just like you did for President Obama.

God bless all of you

jacksmith - WORKING CLASS… :-)

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

To Midori

Then don’t read them.

To Morningstar, Doggone/Ga., Truthman, Bosch, et al

First to Doggone,Ga. You are so morally wrong. Babies can be sustained from 5 months now. The only issue has to do with their lungs (not human life) and how they breathe, get oxygen. That (the method of oxygen intake via the mother or their own lungs) does not determine what is human life.

But ….. let me ask you this. Let’s say I am a dog breeder. Puppies are on the way but alas I cannot afford to raise them right now. So I abort them a week before they are due, take the mother immediately away, and let them die. Can I be charged with animal cruelty?

By tcoach

December 2, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Truthman that is honorable that you are so willing to help out the less fortunate.

Why should the rest of us want to pay more taxes, to support someone who has obviously made bad or faulty decisions in their life.

Are you also proposing that we (taxpayers) pay for ALL mothers day care? If not you are proclaiming nothing more than class warfare. Thus punishing (making them pay for)those who are responsible and have done the right things throughout life.

What is it about personal responsibility that you are opposed to?