Jay Bookman

By getalife

December 2, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Working on his pathetic legacy.

By TW

December 2, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Guess it’s a good thing God didn’t create Iraqi civilians or US military, otherwise that’s one ‘Christian’ who might want to stick an AC unit in his coffin…

Also, let’s not forget those who blowed ‘w’s horn, thus making it all come true.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

December 2, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Jay, all I can say is “G-d bless you.” The reality of one who sits at a keyboard and writes that which he wishes and never finds himself reconciled to reality by his irresponsible(and, I might add, irrationally blind) employer is far, far different than the reality of one who leads and is accountable for his actions. I have held positions of leadership, often with more than 200 people under my charge, in the areas of business, education, and community affairs. When you write, “First, note how neatly Bush absolves himself of any blame whatsoever. He regrets mistakes made by others, not any mistake that he himself might have made”, it shows that you neither understand the nature of leadership nor the inherent accountability of a leader. Please allow me to present an example. When I must present news that a decisions that I made (yes, I am a “decider”) has gone awry to my Board of Directors or a civic Board of Trustees, there is no excuse that can be made to “pin the blame” on subordinates or those upon who’s work I relied in the course of making the decision. As the “decider”, I am wholly responsible for not only the decision, but everything in the process that led up to the decision. So it is with President Bush and, take from a guy who is familiar with “leader-speak”, nothing in the quote you referenced attempts to shirk his responsibility. Just so you know, anyone who has ever been a “decider” has, at one point or another, wished that the fact set upon which he made his decision was different, and anyone who has walked in those shoes will acknowledge that fact. It is far, far different to say, as President Bush did, that, “I wish the fact set upon which I made my decision was different” than to say, which President Bush clearly did not, I am not accountable for the decision because someone below me gave me bad facts. Please take this lesson in leadership and accountability under consideration and then reread President Bush’s quote that has so exited and troubled you. When you will do you will we that this leader has neither disowned his actions nor decision, rather he has merely lamented that his fact set was not perfect.

By AF

December 2, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Iraq and WMDs Bush: “… the biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the intelligence failure in Iraq.”

How sad. It wasn’t a failure of intelligence agencies. It was a failure of the intelligence of the President.

By escaped busharaguan

December 2, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

That damned Obama. If he keeps on talking and acting like this, I’m going to have to develop respect for authority again.

By Taxpayer

December 2, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Jay,

I think your title says it all.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

December 2, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

escaped busharaguan 12:16 PM

I am curious, why would one who has been wildly different than the promises he made when campaiging cause you to “to develop respect for authority again”?

You realize, had PEOTUS laid out what he has done to date as his plan during the primaries, Hillary would be PEOTUS today and PEOTUS would be rocking with the Revs Wright and Phlegm each Sunday.

By Morningstar

December 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

@@ 10:14am from downstairs. I agree the automobile industry has overstepped their bounds. I agree the Union has overstepped their bounds. However, I’m concerned about the zillions of jobs related to the auto industry that would be lost. I believe the auto makers should receive help, but not without some strict restrictions and accountability.

Accountability is the major issue. Name a company, state or federal agency that fails to enforce accountability, and you will see major abuse. Companies will not comply with: 1. Labor Laws 2. Wage and Hour laws 3. Child Labor laws 4. Laws against discrimination on the basis of anything, and the list could go on.

Without unions we’d go back to the dark ages of child labor amoung other atrocities. And no, I’m not advocating keeping John or Susie Doe employed if they are worthless as yesterdays newspaper.

There must be accountability and enforcement of rules and regulations. The republicans did nothing about what was going on in the ‘give a loan to anyone who breathes’ any more than the democrats did. Guilty as charged! Both of them!

Now fix it!

By AmVet

December 2, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

How these two men escaped impeachment proceedings for their offenses against the nation and world is beyond me…

By Abomi Nation

December 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

You’re right Getalife. Nice try Bush.

It’s too late though. The damage is done.

Any day now the Bush history fairy will will sprinkle its fantasy dust over the country and transform his legacy into mythical grandeur. His fans will go crazy.

I will admit he has won some over. His approval rating has skyrocketed to a whopping 29%. The fairy dust should be able to reverse those numbers even further. In fact in the minds of the Bush supporters it already has, just do like they do and pretend he has a 92% approval rating. Hey, that’s better than Clinton!

By getalife

December 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Well, the intell was right with the obl memo, attack on India and he was warned about the economic collapse

w does not pay attention to intell.

He is lying as usual.

Pitiful.

By Truthman

December 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

United Football League wants Mike Vick:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=492714

He’ll play for the Quad-Cities Pitbulls!!

Bwahahahaha!!!

BTW, DUMP CHAMBLISS (a.k.a. mini-Bush)

By Truthman

December 2, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

To WBH; It’s POTUS.

By getalife

December 2, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Amvet,

Two words.

Spineless dems.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 2, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

What is it with the goofball liberals and WMD?

Just for a moment imagine CIA weapons of mass destruction super agent Bushie, er, I mean Valerie Plame, doing her job instead of posing for Vanity Fair and cavorting around the fever swamps.

Put your arms around it, pinkos, embrace it, because Bushie is exactly right, he ain’t the CIA, you are.

By Morningstar

December 2, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Dang it! It ain’t a war for oil!! It’s a war against terrists!!! President Bush’s comment about the ‘intelligence failure in Iraq’ is a cause for concern.

Oops! Concern is a bit late at this stage in the game.

Time to go hunt quail, play with the kiddies or grand younguns, write a book (be sure to employ a ghost writer) or whatever the else strikes your fancy.

Pray for more snow! Go vote! I did!!

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

December 2, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 12:36 PM

In light of President Elect Obama’s groundbreaking creation of an “Office of the President Elect” seal, I have taken to using P(resident)-E(elect)-O(f)-T(he)-U(nited)-S(tates) - PEOTUS - to refer to President Elect Obama. POTUS is still President Bush.

By AmVet

December 2, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Yes indeedy, getalife.

With the help of tiny testicled, Bush boot-licking apparatchiks, most of whom are destined for work in the private sector soon:

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida, who has struggled to boost his approval ratings because of close ties to President George W. Bush, announced Tuesday he will not seek a second term in 2010.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 2, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

During the campaign for the Democratic nomination, Obama mocked Clinton’s primary claim that she possessed the necessary foreign policy experience to be president.

“What exactly is this foreign policy expertise?” Obama said to reporters in March, while flying from a campaign event in Texas. “Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no.”

In spite of these doubts, Obama praised Clinton’s credentials Monday, saying she would be able to advance America’s interests due to her knowledge of world affairs and familiarity with world leaders.

Why it’s a miracle!

Bruno touched the hem of the Marvelous Ones robes and she was blessed with thee infinite knowledges.

Praise be to Oblahmi!

By Greg Mendel

December 2, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

“POTUS is still President Bush.” — Wyld Byll

Thanks for the remynder, Wyld Byll. He ys yndeed.

By Morningstar

December 2, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

By getalife December 2, 2008 12:36 PM Two words. Spineless dems.

You betcha! They’ve been spineless! Time to fess up and do the job!

By AmVet

December 2, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

It strikes me that the intelligence failure wasn’t just regarding Iraq.

It is THE defining quality of the Hero of the Texas ANG and his remaining apologists…

By GOP is Gone

December 2, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

WBH (aka: The Decider)

Please decide to use paragraph form on your next long winded post, and proof reading is a good thing. You sound a little “Palin-esk” at the end.

By Copyleft

December 2, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Everything you wrote here is true, Bookman, but why bother at this stage?

The nation, and the world, already know that Bush screwed up and never accepted responsibility for his mistake (and never will). And the few people who DON’T know it will never be convinced by mere proof.

By Midori

December 2, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

let’s be perfectly clear: Bush regrets NOTHING

Regret is a human emotion, brought about by guilt.

Bush does not posess either. He did what he set out to do: loot our treasury at the behest of his “base” (and I’m not talking about the wrongheaded pyscopaths who post on this blog).

My theory is Bush’s conscience and feelings must have been eaten away by all that white stuff he used to cram up his nose, chased down with gallon after gallon of Wild Turkey.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 2, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

In choosing Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama is also hiring someone he can’t easily fire. This is usually a mistake, as President Bush learned with Colin Powell. The ability to let an adviser take the blame for a policy blunder is crucial to protecting Presidential credibility. But if Mr. Obama tries to let Mrs. Clinton go, he will be taking on the entire Clinton entourage — not just Bill, but Carville, Begala, Ickes, Blumenthal, McAuliffe and so on. That same chorus will work to burnish her reputation via media leaks at the expense of her colleagues — and the President — when there is a mistake to explain.-WSJ

One of these two is going to get flamed, maybe even both, and it really doesn’t matter to me which one it is.

I’ll laugh like hell either way.

By mike hussein smith

December 2, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

I think most of us could venture a good guess on why Wyld Byll is no longer in a position of leadership. He can’t even spell.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

December 2, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

GOP is Gone 1:03 PM

Sorry about that, cut and paste from word - will ensure paragraphs going forward.

As to the Palin thing, all I can say is why does everyone ask why I used the words I used and why I put them in that order.

By tcoach

December 2, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Midori, By your theory, does that mean you also feel that Obama will be void of a conscience or feelings?

I thought you supported Obama?

I get more and more confused everyday.

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and others saw Iraq as a piece of low-hanging, very ripe and oil-rich fruit, waiting to be plucked. They saw it as an Arab country that could be fairly quickly and profitably “Americanized” to serve as a permanent staging area for U.S. forces in the region and even as a pro-Israeli voice in the Arab world.

Sounds great to me! America first !

By GreenJeans

December 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

No surprise, Jay.

GWB has soiled just about everything and every business that he has touched in his lifetime (as a native Texan, I say that with confidence).

His inability to own up to his shortcomings, and adapt, is largely the reason why.

Not one for soul searching, then-Govorner Bush said during the 2000 election: “I don’t spend too much time looking in the mirror.”

To me, this not only flew in the face of his purported Christian faith, it did not bode well for how he would govern as President.

For the time being, it seems as if our country has learned its lesson about choosing a President based on “Whoodja rather have a beer with?”

And thank goodness for that.

By Midori

December 2, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

No surprise there, Tcoach - you guys have been confused for some time now.

Have fun wandering in the wilderness.

The rest of the human race will still be here, waiting for you to join us.

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Liberals are big on images but the real world is a little harsh for them.

By mm

December 2, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

I think Obama chose Hillary just to stick it to the wingnuts. It’s driving them crazy. Just look at Management’s obsession about it.

No, Bush can’t admit any failures. Wyld Byll, you look foolish defending Bush day after day. The man is a disgrace. Your hatred for the democrats has blinded you. The man looted our once rich country.

Corporal, we’ve already seen what happens when America shoots first and asks questions later. We lose allies and gain enemies.

As for impeachment of Bush, I was all for it. However, the votes weren’t there and it would have only been a symbolic gesture.

By Think again

December 2, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

By “The Corporal”

December 2, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Sounds great to me! America first !

Does the fact THEY WERE WRONG even register with you?

By @@

December 2, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Well jay, you have to go all the way back to Dec. 14, 2005 for the truth. Since you love living in the past, but are too partisan/lazy to search for the truth, I thought I’d bring it to you:

WASHINGTON - President Bush accepted responsibility on Wednesday for going to war with faulty intelligence, but firmly defended a decision that has deeply divided the country. “We cannot and will not leave Iraq until victory is achieved,” he said.

“It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq,” the president told a foreign policy forum on the eve of elections to establish Iraq’s first permanent, democratically elected government. “And I’m also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we’re doing just that.”

Is ^^^ that good enough for you?

By Chad Harris

December 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Apparently Swami Dave who purported to have legal expertise hasn’t shown his face to refute my points as to why Suxby Chumpass lied on FISA and if and when he does show I’ll be happy to repeat my points. I suspect he is unable to understand the legal reality.

Telcom Immunity Cases being argued this morning and this afternoon.

At Tuesday’s hearing, EFF will argue that the flawed FISA Amendments Act (FAA) improperly attempts to take away Americans’ claims arising out of the First and Fourth Amendments, violates the federal government’s separation of powers as established in the Constitution, and robs innocent telecom customers of their rights without due process of law. Signed by President Bush earlier this year, the FAA allows for the dismissal of the lawsuits over the telecoms’ participation in the warrantless surveillance program if the government secretly certifies to the court that the surveillance did not occur, was legal, or was authorized by the president. Attorney General Michael Mukasey filed that classified certification with the court in September and is demanding that the cases be dismissed.

EFF is representing the plaintiffs in Hepting v. AT&T, a class action lawsuit brought on behalf of millions of AT&T customers whose private domestic communications and communications records were illegally handed over to the National Security Agency. EFF has been appointed co-coordinating counsel along with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) for all 46 outstanding lawsuits concerning the government’s warrantless surveillance program.

Also Tuesday, in the afternoon, the court will hear the arguments on the future of Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation v. Bush, a case alleging that the government illegally wiretapped calls between the charity and its lawyers.

The Bush Administration is in Vaughn Walker’s courtroom today, trying to convince him to just give the telecoms immunity with no further scrutiny.

But given the questions Judge Walker has posed to the Administration, it looks like it won’t be that easy. For example, there’s this question, which highlights just how nutty this retroactive immunity is:

What exactly has Congress created with § 802 (in Pub L No 110-261, 122 Stat 2467, t** II, § 201 (2008))? It does not appear to be an affirmative defense but rather appears to be a retroactive immunity for completed acts that allegedly violated constitutional rights, but one that can only be activated by the executive branch. Is there any precedent for this type of enactment that is analogous in all of these respects: retroactivity; immunity for constitutional violations; and delegation of broad discretion to the executive branch to determine whether to invoke the provision?

He goes from there to ask several more questions getting at that pesky separation of powers thing. You know—separation of powers, which says that the courts have the ajudicatory function?

In making the certification called for by section 802(a)(5), is the Attorney General performing an adjudicatory function? That is, is he not making a determination that only a court can make?

They are all good questions. And they suggest that Walker is not going to simply roll over and abdicate his Article III function. Which probably means this will be appealed beyond the time when the Bush Administration leaves office.

**Suxby Chumpass lied in statements on FISA stating that the Telcoms would go broke if suits were successful for “the laws they didn’t break.”

Never has there been a more dishonest, disingenuous statement by a scumbag who is a legal moron.

By GOP is gone

December 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

WBH, Sorry I sounded a little snarky about the paragraphs. I had my eyes dilated for the first time and I am still having a very hard time reading. It could be from actually needing the glasses and the dilation together.

Your post was well thought out, although I must disagree with the gist. Bush has never taken ownership of his mistakes in the past, in my opinion, and those mistakes have been numerous.

By AJC/DNC Management

December 2, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

“In the summer because of the heat and high humidity, you could literally smell the tourists coming into the Capitol. It may be descriptive but it’s true.”-Hairy Reed

Oh, po wittle Hairy, such troubles for His Highness having to deal with We The People, how dare they come up stinking into the People’s House.

The nerve of them!

By "The Corporal"

December 2, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

To mm

Correct! The same as in law enforcement. The officer lives and the bad guy dies. Simple.

P.lS. Headline: “Bill Clinton mentioned for wife’s Senate seat … “. When is the last time these two ever had a real job?

By Greg Mendel

December 2, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

(In the weeks leading up to the invasion of Iraq, President Bush continued to maintain that he had made no decision to attack. Simultaneously, a Hollywood set designer and crew were building the elaborate, expensive set from which General Tommy Franks addressed the press during and after the invasion.)

It may be true that leaders around the world “were looking at the same intelligence,” but they weren’t reaching the same conclusions. Only Tony Blair agreed with Bush’s “imminent threat” notion, and evidence indicates his own intelligence service didn’t agree.

The only credible evidence that Saddam had WMD was the discrepancy between UN numbers of weapons destroyed and intact, according to earlier inspections. In other words, Saddam had WMD on paper.

To answer the question, the UN — whose Resolution Bush presumed to unilaterally enforce — sent in a new team of inspectors (the ones Bush still maintains were not allowed into Iraq). They found nothing. Rumsfeld claimed “we know where they are!” Hans Blix said, “Tell us, and we’ll look.” Nothing was found at any site offered by Rumsfeld.

The question George Bush doesn’t understand is “Was there enough credible evidence of an imminent threat to the the United States to justify taking the nation to war with another country?”

The “evidence” presented by Bush wouldn’t hold up in Small Claims Court. As a witness, “Curveball” would have been thrown out on the street. The goofy taxi driver was Bush’s primary source of evidence that Saddam had a nuke program. Even the CIA knew he was making stuff up.

But, Hans Blix, Curveball, the Downing Street Memo, Niger forgeries — all those things were in the way of a good old American butt-kicking festival.

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Listen to the ingrates flown in from another country. They had to be. They could NOT be Americans. Surely Americans support their own country and these people do NOT. They say how awful it is continually. It is not dissent. It is hate.

Just read here what they are saying: all people in parts of the USA are just stupid. The President who has two college degrees from top ranking universities, was a pilot in the National Guard, a governor of one of the largest states in the USA, a strong leader during the 9/11 crisis, has kept this country free of terrorists and freed two countries from tyranny……all this they also call stupid. I hate to think what they call “smart”.

Were these people raised on hate and then left in the woods without supervision?

If that last conjecture is true then we should forgive them. Otherwise, let them leave this place of desperation they despise so much, that is the USA. I will be glad to chip in on their traveling expenses. It would be worth it.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

December 2, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

By mm 1:54 PM

Thank you for your perspective, I shall wear your disdain with honor as I continue to stand up for President Bush. President Bush was faced with hard choices during hard times. His success has allowed folks have forgotten just how high the stakes were after 911; so much so that people still have not been scared sober by the Bombay carnage because they just do not think it can happen here.

As to your point that, “Bush can’t admit any failures”, I can only direct you to the @@ post at 1:54 PM which only serves to confirm the thesis behind my original post by quoting a(n unnamed) news article that states:

WASHINGTON - President Bush accepted responsibility on Wednesday for going to war with faulty intelligence, but firmly defended a decision that has deeply divided the country. “We cannot and will not leave Iraq until victory is achieved,” he said.

“It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq,” the president told a foreign policy forum on the eve of elections to establish Iraq’s first permanent, democratically elected government. “And I’m also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we’re doing just that.”

I’m a “decider”, not a pretender, I have made decisions – both good and bad; and I’ve been pilloried – both fairly and unfairly; and I have been both fired and had victory rewarded with the sweet, passionate love of a 20 something playmate. It just chafes me that persons who didn’t have the whole fact set or fully understand the possible consequences that existed can be so critical, even to the point of refusing to acknowledge any good done by the man, of a man, President Bush, who I believe acted steadfastly with courage in what he perceived to be in our best interests.

I can think of no greater honor than, on this day at this time, to stand together with President Bush.

By tcoach

December 2, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Midori, you do know that makes no sense right?

What wilderness am I wandering through?

I have never nor will ever run for public office so why group me in with the republican party itself? Makes you sound dumb and full of punch lines only. No substance, just blabber.

I see that you concede I caught you in one with the cocaine reference to Bush. Guess you forgot your guy Obama put a little bit of the hyper-fairy dust up his nose as well. But again I know does not matter, all repubs dumb Obama wonderful.

I will be watching to see if Obama is void of feeling and of a conscience, as you stated in your theory.

Keep 2 shoe horns do you?

By @@

December 2, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Morningstar @ 12:25:

There are federal labor laws that address minimum wage, overtime pay, recordkeeping, youth employment and special employment, family and medical leave, migrant workers, lie detector tests, worker protections in certain temporary worker programs, and the prevailing wages for government service and construction contracts.

Who’s gonna hold the unions accountable? Sho nuff ain’t the democrats.

The Office of Labor-Management Standards has recouped more than $103 million for taxpayers since the beginning of the Bush administration, but last year became a target of liberals in Congress, who axed $12 million from its budget.

Guess they needed the union’s support for the upcoming election.

FYI, I haven’t supported the bailout of ANYBODY regardless of who says it’s necessary.

Truthman from downstairs:

@@…I’ll engage whomever, whereever, whenever I read ignorant and contradictory screeds against what is true and right in the world.

I never said you couldn’t engage me in conversation. After a post I made to jay regarding his suppression of speech…….I then went on to discuss the labor industry and how there are no guarantees, so personal responsibility is essential. You chimed in with:

By Truthman December 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

@@…still holding on to you guns, guts and lack of reality, I see!

followed by:

By Truthman December 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

joey…blah, blah, blah!!

Hey Jay, I’m proud to be one of your sheep. History always shows that conservatives have been on the wrong side of all social issues (child labor, 40 hr work week, Social Security, paid vacation, family leave, employer-paid health insurance, a woman’s right to choose what happens to her body, the right to death with dignity…I could go on and on)!

Signed,

Proud sheep of Jay’s flock!! BAAAA!!!

Let’s talk about ^^^ ignorant screeds, shall we?

By mm

December 2, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

A prescription for Prozac - $50

A labotomy - $15,000

Another “I’m an American and your not” post from Dusty - PRICELESS!

By mm

December 2, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Wyld Byll,

Faulty intelligence?

What a joke. It was made up intelligence for the specific reason to invade Iraq under false pretenses.

Not only can Bush not admit a mistake, but the same goes for his supporters.

By @@

December 2, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

I find it rather telling that mm knows the price of both Prozac AND a labotomy assuming she’s correct, of course.

By mm

December 2, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

@@,

I got the numbers from an “I Love Bush” fan club web site.

By the way, I’m a he.

And if the Bush administration recouped any money from taxpayers, it was probably from taken from a poor person and given to a rich person.

By Midori

December 2, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Just read here what they are saying: all people in parts of the USA are just stupid.

no, not all.

Just the wretched 28%

By Truly Inspirational

December 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t seem that long ago that the shoe was on the other foot and the Republicans were bearing down on Bill Clinton for his actions. With that in mind, it makes some of the comments from the Republicans about criticisms of Bush look like some sort of “holier than thou” preaching. Perhaps even hypocritical. Then again, given some of the “preaching” from some pastors about the evil Democrats and the heavenly Republicans, maybe there is some “holier than thou” belief out there amongst some of the “holier than thou” Republican base.

By tcoach

December 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

So if Bush is indeed as dumb as you all say he is. What does that say for ALL, REPUBLICAN and DEMOCRAT members of congress who were fooled by Bush.

What are you called if you get FOOLED by a so-called FOOL.

Disclaimer: I know Bush has made some questionable decisions while in office. He is not one of our better pres. Do all of you who call him stupid actually think you are smarter. He was obviously smart enough to outsmart most Americans into allowing him 2 terms.

So I ask if he is so dumb, what would you call those who either were outsmarted, or did not have a set big enough to call him on all of his lies?

By Midori

December 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Midori, you do know that makes no sense right?

Reading is fundamental, dear Sir.

What wilderness am I wandering through?

the wilderness of the brain dead 28%

I have never nor will ever run for public office so why group me in with the republican party itself? Makes you sound dumb and full of punch lines only. No substance, just blabber.

Wow!! Insults abound. Can’t take the heat? Get out of the kitchen. It’s not hard seeing you as a Republican, so if I’m mistaken, please excuse me. It’s just your rhetoric so well matches up with the GOP.

As for me sounding “dumb and full of punch lines”, again, reading is fundamental. I can’t help if you have questionable and less than developed comprehension skills.

I see that you concede I caught you in one with the cocaine reference to Bush.

Don’t recall that but it is my belief that he is nothing but a drug addled fool.

Guess you forgot your guy Obama put a little bit of the hyper-fairy dust up his nose as well. But again I know does not matter, all repubs dumb Obama wonderful.=

LOL, NOW

I will be watching to see if Obama is void of feeling and of a conscience, as you stated in your theory.

Keep 2 shoe horns do you?

By Midori

December 2, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

oops — wasn’t finished yet

I see that you concede I caught you in one with the cocaine reference to Bush.

Don’t recall that but it is my belief that he is nothing but a drug addled fool. And a miserable, mean-spirited drunk to boot!!

Guess you forgot your guy Obama put a little bit of the hyper-fairy dust up his nose as well. But again I know does not matter, all repubs dumb Obama wonderful.=

LOL, NOW you’re catching on!!! As for Obama’s drug use: you’d be hard pressed not to find people beyond the age of 45 who haven’t dabbled in drugs during their life times. However Bush took dabbling to a whole new level.

I will be watching to see if Obama is void of feeling and of a conscience, as you stated in your theory.

Am I supposed to be frightened by that? Let’s make a deal: look me up when Obama bombs innocent brown children to pieces and invades a soveriegn country who had nothing at all to do with 9/11.

Keep 2 shoe horns do you?

You really need to keep your day job.

Your stand up act completely sucks.

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

What? 28% are the dumb percentage?? I thought there were more liberals than that.

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Dear mm,

I see you recognized yourself immediately. What IS your nationality?

By Chad Harris

December 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

@Dusty the Dusthead—

Bush got into and through those colleges because Daddy was an important Congressman and Daddy was very rich.

It’s not the degrees or where. It’s what the f*ck you do with ‘em jackleg.

And Bush has clusterf*cked the hell out of this country and put it in the worst security, foreign policy, doemestic and financial shape in its history. He shredded the Constitution, screwed medical research and medical care, and the Dow goes down faster than a Palin in the back seat of a car.

We’re going to fix things. If you want to do something constructive, get your butt on a bus and move Suxby Chumpass and Moron Bush the hell out of DC now.

By Chad Harris

December 2, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

The Moronicity of Bush Keeps on Keepin’ on

A just-released report by the Government Accountability Office on how the Treasury Department is using the $700 billion allocated to it by Congress for the financial bailout reaches some discouraging conclusions.

It finds that:

Treasury has yet to address a number of critical issues, including determining how it will ensure that CPP is achieving its intended goals and monitoring compliance with limitations on executive compensation and dividend payments. Moreover, further actions are needed to formalize transition planning efforts and establish an effective management structure and an essential system of internal control.

By Ray

December 2, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Practically every liberal in leadership in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq confirmed their belief publicly about the need to relieve Hussein of his alleged WMDs and the need for a change in government. The You Tube tapes are there…. just read them. The rhetoric was positive, decisive and without doubt on their part. Most of these same libs voted for and authorized the invasion of Iraq in session by a vote for the above.
Politicians hate to be wrong. It costs them votes and this is rule #1 in politics…… don’t lose votes. Say anything, do anything, jump off of the ship, evade your past…… anything but lose votes. They are just as complicit in this whole mess as Bush ever thought about being. He is just willing to admit his mistakes.

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Midori spouts the old bombing brown children and blah blah blah baloney.

Would you mind using NEW propaganda? You’re using old stuff thst isn’t even credible with our enemies.

Just as I mentioned, would real Americans be throwing out the rotten anti-American stuff spouted on these blogs? I don’t think so. Your own words show who you really are. It isn’t a pretty picture.

By Copyleft

December 2, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Dusty, but America is a liberal country, and you don’t belong here. If you hate Liberal America so much, you’re welcome to leave OUR land.

By GodHatesTrash

December 2, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Only the very sick and very disturbed try to justify the bombing of innocent children.

By mike hussein smith

December 2, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Congrats, Chad, for your cogent and brazen use of “clusterf-ck.” I’ve been in love with that word since I first heard Clint Eastwood utter it. It’s just so right sometimes.

By Citizen of the World

December 2, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Bush won’t admit mistakes or failures because he’s been trained to validate his base, a diehard percentage of which also won’t admit to mistakes or failures, most notably, voting for him. They still think he’s the greatest president ever and that those of us who criticize him are just Bush Haters.

By GodHatesTrash

December 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Bush thinks he’s a victim, just like the losers that vote for him think they are victims.

They are victims, but only of their own hate, stupidity, and emotional retardation.

By mike hussein smith

December 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Ray, Joe Biden is one Democrat who has disowned his vote on Iraq. He says Bush lied to him and the Congress. He has more credibility with American people than you, Swimmi, the corpse and wyld byll all rolled into one.

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Dear Chad the Chump Harris,3:21

Your suppositions are nothing more than hateful ideas with no proof whatsoever. You could not tell the truth if it hit you in the face. Why you hate the President of the USA I do not know. Maybe because he is intelligent? Or rich? Or had great parents? Or because NOBODY ever found you to be a leader of any kind?

Our financial problems can be blamed on any number of things. None of them can be removed with a quick cure. The President has gathered the best people available in finances and Congress has approved their plan. Perhaps you also hate Congress. Or do you just hate EVERYBODY?

I find you working against any stability in this country. I don’t know the answer for that one either. In your disrespect for all things including our country, I have lost respect for you. I know you don’t care so don’t bother to tell me.

By Ray

December 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

For those of you not convinced about the identity of all of those who were positive about the invasion and the presence of WMDs…… Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean, Slick Willy, Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger, Nancy Pelosi, Jay Rockefeller, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy, Al Gore, Henry Waxman, John Kerry, Robert Byrd…… all of these upstanding lib politicos expressed their belief that WMDs actually existed, the need for us to invade Iraq to eliminate them and the need for a different government in Iraq. All they did was jump ship and point fingers when it was found that they were wrong. Liberals never admit that they are wrong.

By Truly Inspirational

December 2, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Here we go again with the “Real America” trash talk. Something that is really getting old is the talk about people not being Americans if they criticize Bush. Nothing could be further from the truth and those that would claim otherwise are the one’s that are truly un-American for they seem to have forgotten about our constitutional rights or just never bothered to learn them.

By mike hussein smith

December 2, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Ray, you ignorant slut. Everyone of those people you mention made their decision based on the “intelligence” being supplied by the CIA and White House. They later realized that the “intelligence” was made up of a pack of lies created by Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Doug Feith and the neocons. They have apologized to Americans for believing those lies. They are trying to do better. Why can’t Bush? Why can’t you?

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Copyleft,3:29

Sorry, fellow, but America is a free land and you want to make it liberal in the politcal sense. The liberal sense in these days is to hate the President and denigrate the country. Since I love a free America I do not sit back and watch people tear it down.

You may eaxcuse the hate poured out by so many “liberals” but I do not. It hurts the country and that is what you are doing. Sorry you can’t see it. You’ve been doing it so long and excusing it, you cannot even recognize it any more. You are a sad case….blessed with the greatest country in the world and STILL complaining.

By Chad Harris

December 2, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

@ Ray

There have been plenty of idiot votes and moves by Dems in the Senate and House, particularly Blue Dogs and idiots like Jay Rockerfeller Chairman of SSSI on FISA.

The bill was clearly about covering Bush Butt.

The point on Iraq is to cut the hemorrhaging and get out of the clusterck right now, and all the dancing around of Gates and evasion that I saw by him today isn’t going to change that we’re getting the fck out of there.

VAHospitals are doing a p** poor job you wouldn’t put up with for your personal medical care.

There are pushing 50,000 severely crippled people from the Iraq clusterf*ck either from orthopedic, neurological, or loss sight injuries and their care has been p** poor.

Chickenhawk Chumpass voted aganinst every Bill for aid to vets. Welcome to Wingnut hypocrisy.

By mike hussein smith

December 2, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

God, I’ve always wanted to say that to someone

Dusty — Love it or leave it (Jay’s blog, that is).

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

God Hates Trash,3:32

Why don’t you go over to the airport and ask our returning military why they have been over there “bombing innocent children”? Ask them about your stupid accusations.

You are such a jerk. You CANNOT even support our military who are laying their lives on the line to keep us free from terrorism.

Truly Inspirational@3:47

I know about our Constitutional rights. That is why I can tell you how disgusting I think this anti-Bush Anti-American stuff you spout is objectionable. I know you can say how you HATE the President (as has been done for 8 years) but WHY ARE YOU FILLED WITH HATE?

Pointing out disagreements is one thing but continually smearing the President with hate for anything you do not like makes our country, not just the President, look like a place rotting from within. That is what I HATE. Obviously, you do not mind at all.

By Taxpayer

December 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

I regret that Bush is an idiot and that he was never qualified to be president. If I had known earlier, I would not have voted for him. I just did not know and I believed what I heard at the time from him and others. You know the stuff — that he was a compassionate person and a conservative and all that crap. I made a mistake by voting for Bush and I admit it. I will be more thorough in my future evaluations of candidates for office. You see, it’s not that hard to admit one’s mistakes. In fact, it is good for the soul.

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

mike hussein smith,3:56

I guess you were the class monitor in grammar school.

Sorry. Those days are gone forever. I love it or leave it anytime I feel like it at Bookman’s.

You libs like to say, dissent is SO GOOD for everything. Now, you would not want me to leave just because I might express a little dissent, would YOU? Surely not!!

By Dusty

December 2, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Dear Taxpayer 4:09

Your mistake is that you are mistaken. President Bush is not only a compassionate person and a conservative (which is not crap) but he has kept us safe and freed two countries from tyranny.

You count that as nothing. That is where you make your mistake.

By Chad Harris

December 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Update on the scumbag administration’s trying to CYA —their butts not the Telcoms masqurading as trying to protect ATT and others:

Justice Department attorney Carl Nichols didn’t get through his first full sentence defending the constitutionality of retroactive immunity for spying telecom carriers before U.S. district judge Vaughn Walker interrupted to ask about President-elect Barack Obama.

“We are going to have new attorney general,” Walker interjected in Tuesday morning’s hearing in a San Francisco courthouse. “Why shouldn’t the court wait to see what the new attorney general will do?”

At issue in the latest hearing in the EFF’s lawsuit against AT&T for alleged complicity in illegal wiretapping is whether Congress has the right to free the nation’s telecoms from the lawsuits pending against them.

Nichols is arguing that Obama’s Justice Department will continue to defend the immunity statute. (Obama voted for the bill but held his nose on the immunity provisions.)

“The Department of Justice rarely, if ever, declines to defend the constitutionality of a statute,” Nichols said. “It’s very, very unlikely for a future DOJ to decline to defend the constitutionality of this statute.”

Stay tuned for further updates as today’s hearings progress this afternoon. There were two separate cases—one in the morning and one this afternoon.

By Truly Inspirational

December 2, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I know you hate everyone that does not “think” as you but for you to call those persons non-American or something equivalent is simply a lie. So, why do you hate real Americans. Why don’t you accept the fact that real Americans can criticize Bush. I think you are the one filled with HATE. I don’t hold it against you though. However, I do HATE to see people post lies. You wouldn’t post lies, would you? Where did I post that I HATE anyone, for starters? You made the claim and I would HATE to see you proven to be a liar.

By Ray

December 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Smith,

Many thanks for the kind words. You seem to think that all of these lib politicos were just put upon people who were duped by the evil Bush and his cronies. Most all of them had access to intelligence briefings where they could make up their own minds about the truth of the intel. That’s what they are supposed to do…. that’s why we elected them…. to make decisions. Madeline Albright was a sitting Sec of State under Clinton when she made these statements….. before Bush was even elected. Al Gore continually reiterated the need for a change in government and his suspicions of WMDs…. long before the evil Bush became president. Clinton made a passionate speech in 1998 regretting the fact that he may have to send troops to Iraq to eliminate the threat of WMDs…. you might recall that Bush was elected in 2000. Sandy Berger, Clinton’s NSA chief also continually spoke about the threat of WMDs….. again, long before the evil Bush took office. Howard Dean was the Chair of the Democratic National Committee during Gore’s campaign….. again spoke continually of rogue nations and their WMDs and the need for elimination. Bush had not been elected yet.
Now, you ignorant turd, before you go spouting off about how dumb others are, do your homework.

By Paul

December 2, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

@@ 1:54 Your quote regarding Pres Bush accepting responsibility – probably good enough for Jay, not for others.

Jay

As your link shows, Pres Bush wasn’t asked, as you stated, about his greatest regret. He was asked about do-overs. “GIBSON: You’ve always said there’s no do-overs as President. If you had one? ” He then said “the greatest regret of the presidency is the intelligence failure in Iraq.” If Gibson had asked, “what’s your greatest failure as President” you might have had something.

Regarding your going to war thesis, I don’t think there’s a single factor, as in WWII of “The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.” Different camps in the Administration had different agendas and all fed in. WMDs may have been the public, salable issue – but there were other issues. I’ve thought (please, I’ve long since read the source material and didn’t file it away for blog discussions) that an aim was establishing a democratic government in a Middle Eastern Muslim as a safety valve for authoritarian governments. Iraq was secular, relatively well-educated, developed middle class with a history of operating outside tribalism and fundamentalism. Or so we thought. OBL’d been bought off by the Saudis to conduct his attacks elsewhere but the agreement was wearing thin. Other countries (e.g., Egypt) had other fundamentalist insurrections. Take out Saddam, establish some form of democratic gov’t to serve as a transition model for other ME countries whose only path seemed to be fundamentalist takeover.

But that’s not a public reason for war. I’m not advocating that position – just saying I believe it was on more than one policymaker’s mind. And this whole thing shows, once a country begins on the path to war, it’s difficult to stop.

But try this out. You make the case WMD intel was wrong. As we discovered after we invaded. So back up to inauguration month. Or shortly after. Pres Bush addresses the nation. “For years we’ve had military operations countering Saddam. We’ve been there to protect the Kurds and minorities, then to enforce UN sanctions and to counter the WMD threat. For eight years I’ve listened to the Clinton Administration cite the threat posed by Saddam. I’ve listened to statements by leaders from both parties citing Saddam’s danger, including development and use of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. I’ve received briefings from our intelligence agencies – I even kept Pres Clinton’s CIA director – and foreign intelligence agencies.

“Fellow citizens, I don’t believe any of them. They are all either misinformed or lying. Accordingly, I’ve directed cessation of military operations against Saddam and will introduce a resolution ending all sanctions against Iraq. There is no threat.”

So, Jay, whadda ya think Democratic, Republican or pundit reaction would’ve been?

By Taxpayer

December 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You are the mistaken one.

By CurtJ

December 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Per the “Downing Street Memos”… The intelligence had to be “Fixed” to justify the invasion of Iraq… That’s from official British intelligence reports! Just ask about the Downing Street Memos on your computer.. I notice the Neo Con Parasites, Republican Mushrooms and the Religious Idiots haven’t said boo about Bin Laden. The only time they mention al-Qaeda is when they say al-Qaeda is on the run in Iraq… For the Republican Mushrooms and Religious Idiots.. There weren’t al-Qaeda in Iraq before Bush’s lies. Now King Pinocchio, Shotgun Cheney, their Family members, Friends and Political Donors and Cronies are all raking record profits of Blood Money off the backs of over 4200 dead American G.I.’s, Marines and Sailors in wartime contracts. I won’t mention the 11 dead Mercenaries masquerading as “Contractors” as they’re civilians making a profit off the pain, suffering and murder of innnocent civilians in a war zone. Mercenaries!! What we need is Impeachment!!! If Pelosi and Hoyer and the rest of the Democrats are up to their eyeballs in Conflict of Interest and Collusion, they need to be replaced and Impeached also!!

By CurtJ

December 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

I meant 1100 dead Mercenaries… Sorry

By Frederick Douglass

December 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Off point as usual, but the Dow finished up 270 points at the end of trading. Throw out yesterday’s 679 point plunge, and that comes to about 900 points gained since Obama unveiled his economic team. Who knew this is what he meant when he said “let’s spread the wealth”.

By swolf

December 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Proof right from the horse’s mouth that Bush is just plain TOO IGNORANT to even begin to recognize the total failure his administration has been these last 8 years.

By Paul

December 2, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

swolf

Total? As in “nothing good anywhere?”

Why do so many people discount Africa?

By david wayne osedach, san diego/ U.S.A.

December 2, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

What they say about people who live in glass houses applies particularly to Bush. He didn’t become the worst President in U.S. history by making just a few mistakes.

By GodHatesTrash

December 2, 2008 8:32 PM |