Jay Bookman

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 24, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

I see where Tom “6 more months” Freidman wants to move the innauguration to Thanksgiving……

By TW

November 24, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

Heck with all the bail-outs - we need a buy out! Somebody buy ‘w’ out of the last eight weeks of his contract!

If the man had one grain of self-respect, he’d quit. He’d quit and return $3.2 million of welfare we’ve given him under the guise a salary. Based on the damage he’s done, this would still be a bargain.

Al Qaeda did less damage.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

He recognizes that a leadership vacuum exists at a critical point in our history, and he is attempting to fill it as best he can given that he won’t take office for almost two months.

I like this, the libs create a financial disaster with their freebie loan programs like Fannie Mac and then get to “ride to the rescue” behind their dimwit Wonder Boy, who has done nothing but frighten investors right out of the markets.

Get serious.

There is an Oblahma Bubble in the near future and if you toadies keep blowing the hot air up it’s behind, we’re in for a big bang when it pops.

I would be praying to the Lord if I were you, not pounding your chests, I’ve been feasting on all of the capital that was injected into the market but now it is time to get back out.

Like everyone else is.

Before the depression sets in.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

How many lies have these democrats told about Republicans being criminal or liars or whatever, and sure enough, always frisk the liberal first-

Minn. — A woman who worked for Al Franken earlier this week during the Senate recount in one county ended up counting ballots as a nonpartisan volunteer here Saturday in a recount that grew heated at times.

Maggie Vertin, who spent two days in Fergus Falls for Otter Tail County’s recount as an observer for Franken, was one of eight volunteers who assisted with the Wilkin County effort in Breckenridge.

Compromising an election?

Third world leader for a third world country.

By AF

November 24, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Tom Friedman in the NYT: This is the real “Code Red.” As one banker remarked to me: “We finally found the W.M.D.” They were buried in our own backyard — subprime mortgages and all the derivatives attached to them.

Friedman goes on to bemoan the lack of leadership right now. He wants Obama in now for “a huge injection of optimism and confidence that we can and will pull out of this with a new economic team at the helm.”

Bush is offering no leadership right now. What a loser.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

The Geithner nomination would be “more of the same” of the worst aspects of the current Bush administration — more bailouts, more lack of transparency in the bailouts, and more corporate welfare. And the effect Geithner’s selection had on the market may also be similar to that of the announcements of other Paulson “rescues” — a temporary gain in the Dow followed by a backslide even further when investors realize that fundamental problems haven’t been solved and have in fact been exacerbated by interventionist policies.-AmSpec

“Change” you can count on.

By Swami Dave

November 24, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Much too soon for many of us……admittedly not soon enough for the rest of you. However, it will get here just as fast for both of us.

-Swami Dave

By Let's get down to business

November 24, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

The remaining Republicans in Congress would do well to pack their bags and vacate the premises for all the good they’ve done. If the Republican base is just going to whine and moan about every single thing that Obama does even before he’s elected, then let’s give them a better reason. Let’s really make the government one that is Democrat controlled. Besides, judging from the childish behavior of the Republican delegates from Georgia during the efforts to get the 700 billion dollar bailout passed, we would have been better off without them anyway. Instead of presenting any options other than doing nothing, they just moaned and groaned about how their Limbaugh-Gingrich constituency would not want them to do what they were elected to do. Blah, blah, blah. Poor little babies.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Yeah, let’s start the next 4 years-

Every Democratic president since Lyndon Johnson has driven millions of his erstwhile supporters into the GOP ranks, and there is no reason to expect that Obama will break this precedent. Indeed, the absurdly inflated hopes generated by Obama’s campaign practically guarantee that his tenure in the White House will leave many Democrats bitterly disappointed — some so bitter that they become ex-Democrats like me.-AmSpec

*Obama gained his margin of victory in large measure by enlisting the support of the disengaged, the disaffected and those too young to know better. Voters under 30 — who weren’t yet in high school when Bill Clinton was elected — went for Obama by a 2-to-1 margin. Many of these young Obama supporters will be among the first to feel the shock of discovering how wide is the chasm that separates their Hope from any Change that Obama can actually accomplish. *

By Dusty

November 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Well, whatdoya know!!! TW, our All American boy prefers Al Qaeda over President Bush. (4:48)

Well, we all suspected as much for the last eight years but too bad to see it in print. Any more libs here want to express their admiration for the terrorists that attacked our country?

And remembering the last eight years, Democrats have been counting the minutes ever since George W. Bush was ELECTED by the people of America. Not once could libs express any support or work with policies or give any credit for many accomplishments. No sir! Run down Bush and America and the military but GET REVENGE!!

The weaklings of America have finally gotten their wish….inexperienced leader with retreads from a mediocre impeached President….all leading to a hands-out America.

Thanks a lot, socialists, but YOU DO HAVE TO WAIT TWO MORE MONTHS before you get any candy. You STILL have to play by the rules whether you want to or not.

By getalife

November 24, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

How many more friedman units?

Anyhoo, Summers warned about this housing bubble recession for years and Geithner advised to let Lehman fail.

Good luck Obama.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

You think I’m kidding about what an “education” means in America?

How can you vote responsibly if you don’t know the meaning of “free enterprise”?

That is the question posed in “Our Fading Heritage,” the survey on civic literacy released by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute Thursday at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. The report found that only 54% of college graduates can correctly identify a free enterprise system as one in which individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and services.

This year’s study allows a comparison between college graduates and those without higher education, and the results are ugly: college grads earned a failing grade only 13 percentage points higher than those with only high school diplomas.

Now ask them about “bad” America.

See if they don’t ace that quiz.

By TW

November 24, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Dusty - yes, I prefer the entity that does the least amount of damage to my country.

Here’s another - Ayers has done more for this country than Simple Sarah ever will. HA!

Perhaps you could do your GED thesis on that one?

By Travis

November 24, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Where is the investigation into how it is that Kathy Cox is in such trouble? Can we recall her?

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

By getalife November 24, 2008 5:29 PM Anyhoo, Summers warned about this housing bubble recession for years and Geithner advised to let Lehman fail.

al-Gitmo: You may want to check outside of the fever swamps on this one.

Geithner became the go-to guy for failing financial firms, and was at the “center of action” for the AIG bailout, according to the New York Post. He “quarterbacked and advised” the government’s “taking control of tottering insurance giant AIG for a bailout deal,” the Post wrote. But more and more, it looks like Paulson and Geithner “quarterbacked” with a flawed playbook with AIG that moved the meltdown much further down the goal line.

This dude is the lord of the government bailout.

Who will bail us out?

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Uh-oh, all is not well in the fever swamps-

What kind of magic does this man Rubin have? He was one of the key Democratic architects of the extreme financial deregulation that brought the economy to this pass. At Citi, he was one of the grand strategists of the speculation in securitized loans and off-balance-sheet gimmicks that has brought Citi to the edge of bankruptcy. Yet he continues to fall upwards. Surely Barack Obama must have noticed that Rubin is a false prophet. So why is his entire senior economic group a Team of Rubinistas?-Huff and Puff

By Barney

November 24, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Jan. 20, 2009 couldn’t get here fast enough starting Jan. 20, 2005. Has there ever been another president who was a lame duck from the first day of his second term? Probably not. Bush set a record for impotence and futility. He has never been a leader and history will not be kind to him.

By "The Corporal"

November 24, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Jay

How about will December 1st ever get here so Justice Souter can see the vault copy of Obama’s supposed birth certificate? It’s very easy for him to comply. Let’s see if he does and what Justice Souter will do/say if he doesn’t.

If you think I am making this up please check the Supreme Court docket site for Berg vs. Obama and you will find that although the suit to stop the election was not approved the issue of the birth certificate remains.

One step at a time.

By Greg Mendel

November 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

“Who will bail us out?”

Imagine for a moment that Sarah Palin was in charge of fixing the economy. I’ll bet that Geithner guy never skint a moose.

By Midori

November 24, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

why do I have the feeling that in the event the Supreme Court puts this silly non issue to rest, you will still be on the hunt for the elusive birth certificate?

Birth Certificate Gate.

it has a nice ring to it. No?

I suppose you would do Sherlock Holmes proud.

NOT

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Am I on top of Conservative thought or what?

The K-12 public education system is essentially wrecked. No longer can any professor expect an incoming college freshman to know what Okinawa, John Quincy Adams, Shiloh, the Parthenon, the Reformation, John Locke, the Second Amendment, or the Pythagorean Theorem is. An entire American culture, the West itself, its ideas and experiences, have simply vanished on the altar of therapy. This upcoming generation knows instead not to judge anyone by absolute standards (but not why so); to remember to say that its own Western culture is no different from, or indeed far worse than, the alternatives; that race, class, and gender are, well, important in some vague sense; that global warming is manmade and very soon will kill us all; that we must have hope and change of some undefined sort; that AIDs is no more a homosexual- than a heterosexual-prone disease; and that the following things and people for some reason must be bad, or at least must in public company be said to be bad (in no particular order): Wal-Mart, cowboys, the Vietnam War, oil companies, coal plants, nuclear power, George Bush, chemicals, leather, guns, states like Utah and Kansas, Sarah Palin, vans and SUVs.-Victor Davis Hansen

By GMAN

November 24, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

This just in… Sarah Palin suspected of being the daughter of aliens. The US government has unearthed her original birth certificate listing her father as Mork and her mother as Mindy. Stay tuned for further details…

By getalife

November 24, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Yeah Andy,

He let Lehman fail because he thought it looked bad to bailout all the banks but Paulson would let his competetitor fail anyway.

There is no transparacy on the bank bailouts to keep their stock prices from failing but need an audit on the Fed.

Man, it is bad.

By Soixante huitard

November 24, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this

*and Geithner advised to let Lehman fail.”

Sure you got your facts right here, getalife?

By Soixante huitard

November 24, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Funny. Just heard this guy on the TV.

He actually admitted to being a Republican.

I’m pretty sure that’s what he said.

I know, I know, I was amazed too. But that’s what he said I’m pretty sure.

By getalife

November 24, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

and Geithner advised to let Lehman fail.

According to the Post and a million other articles but am tired of reading this crap.

By LCn34

November 24, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

There’s a rickety bridge too broad in Barack’s crossover. If he sticks with the tax breaks for the middle class, what’s to say they won’t sock it away in today’s economic uncertainty? When he talks about the 2.5 million jobs rebuilding infrastructure, he’s drawing from Roosevelt’s New Deal. But FDR’s New Deal was received by a workforce trained in farming, construction and factory work. Our newest president’s plan will be drawing on office workers, computer programmers and a pool of specialists. From a cubicle or an office with a view to riding a jackhammer in mid-day highs just doesn’t sound feasible.

It will be an influx of foreign laborers that will be riding that government gravy train. Americans be damned.

By Mike H

November 24, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

“And to make the investments we need, we’ll have to scour our federal budget, line-by-line, and make meaningful cuts and sacrifices as well - something I’ll be discussing further tomorrow.”

Ok, so this is like saying that: We’ve got a man here who’s been decapitated, but if we can just stop the bleeding at the neck, everything will be fine.

“O” has no great ideas here Jay. You can lay off the Coolaid now.

By "The Corporal"

November 24, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

To Midori

May I remind you that you first accused me a couple of weeks ago of making this whole thing up but I guess you are convinced now it is still an open matter in the SCOTUS as it is on their website.

However, I will (as all law abiding citizens do) be satisfied with their determination whatever it may be.

Isn’t that the American way?

By Midori

November 24, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

I’ve never ONCE accused you of “making it up”.

It is and always been my opinion that it’s a monumental waste of time.

Think about it: How in the world, the UNIVERSE, did this man go through life and held the positions he has held if he were one of your scary aliens?

Use your God-given common sense.

**

By Gadawgs

November 24, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

How embarrasing!….AJC/DNC management..You are what gives GA such a bad name across the country…redneck, ignorant idiots…Please stop making GA an embarrasement……I hate to tell anyone I live in Georgia….The repugs have just about ruined us!

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 24, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

My new motto PMA not PMS.

I’d love for us all to wake p and it’s 6-12 months in the future and the financial bleeding has stopped and signs of improvement will make Andy more vocal than usual.

Ain’t gonna happen. We are all responsible to some degree for this mess. I know I can’t pick up a stone to toss. Which of you is?

The Bush Presidency is like a boil on the butt of America. It’s been lanced and we are waiting for it to finally clear up. The scar will become less noticeable with time.

As much as I understand the need for Obama NOW…I want that shining cold day in January.

I will watch Mr. Obama vow to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution” with pride and probably tears, while I renew my own vow to do the same.

Hot Damn, Yes we can!

By Booger

November 24, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

That’s OK, Midori. I think the corporal has about four thoughts — we are defended by better men than ourselves, Obama wasn’t born here, those who never fought will never know true freedom and he used to be a secret agent man.

He just recycles those four thoughts over and over and over.

By whatthefkk

November 24, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

ms g has been let out again with her blubbering

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

If your life is empty and devoid of meaning, then by all means, create some boogeyman that you can “fight” to make yourself feel brave and useful, even if it is fake, but shoving it down everybody else’s throat?

HERE’S one popular vision for saving the planet: Roll out from under the sumptuous hemp-fiber sheets on your bed in the morning and pull on a pair of $245 organic cotton Levi’s and an Armani biodegradable knit shirt.

I might smoke some hemp but we ain’t sleeping in it.

Stroll from the bedroom in your eco-McMansion, with its photovoltaic solar panels, into the kitchen remodeled with reclaimed lumber. Enter the three-car garage lighted by energy-sipping fluorescent bulbs and slip behind the wheel of your $104,000 Lexus hybrid.

“Reclaimed” lumber, I like that, it’s almost as though any craftsman worth his salt would throw away a good used 2 by 6.

Hybrid is the new word for moron, a virtual sales pitch for the dull and dim Godless heathens, the easily led, those whose life lacks any meaning, notice how all the same folks that were selling gashog SUVs just a few short years ago, when they were all the rage, are now selling “green” stuff?

They know all the Sheeple are lined up, ready to be clipped, suckers all, just itching to buy the new fangled, uh, same old marketable merchandise.

Consumption of a different and more righteous, chest thumping name.

We ain’t impressed.

At all.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

There isn’t a person in the ATL that hasn’t driven down a neatly manicured and beautifully landscaped boulevard that hasn’t been covered in trash from all the garbage trucks wantonly dumping their debris over the side as they pass by.

But yet you go to their websites and they all have the prettiest green logos and these comforting words and slogans about the “environment” and you just know, for a fact, that these people laugh out loud when they built their webpages with such nonsense, knowing full well what blooming idiots liberals really are.

All they have to do is chant the proper “codewords” and it is business as usual.

“Change” the dullards can “count” on.

By getalife

November 24, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Fareed Zakaria: “Some of us—especially those under 60—have always wondered what it would be like to live through the kind of epochal event one reads about in books. Well, this is it. We’re now living history, suffering one of the greatest financial panics of all time. It compares with the big ones—1907, 1929—and we cannot yet know its full consequences for the financial system, the economy or society as a whole.”

Well, w made history again. All bad but still no accountabilty in this country. Folks in Iceland and other countries are hitting the streets.

This will not end well.

By Greg Mendel

November 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

AC/DC (a.k.a. Cut & Paste):

Now, what war did you fight in? Where were you, and what did you do? And have you ever been near a B-52 raid? A book? And what was it that the U.S. would have achieved by winning the war in Vietnam?

Are you afraid of those questions, RWDAMF? Or just questions in general? You don’t seem to have the stones to answer, AW.

By "The Corporal"

November 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

To Midori

Deny it if you want.

No one ever challenged him on it before.

The point is, he could make this go away immediately by requesting that the vault copy of his birth certificate be released to the SCOTUS for analysis. So simple.

Now that said, how come there are no records of his hospital birth or doctor of record ? To my knowledge those were not on the photocopy of the birth certificate released during the campaign but those items are on other birth certificates issued during that period.

In addition, I would imagine a doctor and/or attending nurses who remembered his birth (unusual circumstances) would have come forward by now.

And of course I have read reports of the sticky wickets involving some of his relatives years ago (when no one imagined he would run for POTUS) stating he was born in Kenya.

Odd.

I assume as a citizen who believes in the Constitution you would want the truth whatever it is ???

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

By getalife November 24, 2008 9:49 PM It compares with the big ones—1907, 1929—and we cannot yet know its full consequences for the financial system, the economy or society as a whole.”

al-Gitmo: You wanted socialism, you got socialism.

Capitalists are not a bunch of mouth breathers waiting for some moron messiah to come along and tell them how he can “change” things, we see the world in terms of good or bad, no in between, and you are right, it is going to get bad.

And we are preparing accordingly.

And we pay your bills, bwahahahahahahaa, suckers.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

By Greg Mendel November 24, 2008 9:56 PM AC/DC (a.k.a. Cut & Paste): And what was it that the U.S. would have achieved by winning the war in Vietnam?

2,000,000 Cambodians would still be alive?

You are an angry little pinko, gregory, it’s almost as though the lord and messiah oblahmi isn’t all that you expected him to be.

Feeling a bit let down?

Go pound sand, nancy.

By Midori

November 24, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

LOL, Corporal -

my, aren’t your tighty whities all wad up in a bunch!!!

ROFL!!!

CATS AND DOGS WILL COHABITATE

LAKES WILL RUN DRY!!!

MOUNTAINS WILL DISAPPEAR BEFORE OUR VERY EYES

and it’s ALL because the Corporal has been reading too much pulp fiction.

Let me toss you a bone here. These folks are also on the elusive trail of the non existent birth certificate. You’ll fit right in

By Greg Mendel

November 24, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Curious answer, Cut & Pasty. Now, once again, what war were you in? Was it the Cambodian War, or the one against the Atomic Mole People?

By JB

November 24, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

Typical libs, willing to p** on the constitution just cause you want to.

JB

By Fear

November 24, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Waiting until Jan 20 gives Obama et al more than enough time to instill such gloom and doom into the drones and lemmings that they are willing to agree to anything and sign anywhere the great one commands. Where does one get tickets for his parting of the Red Sea and water walk???

By Tigerfan_in_GA

November 24, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this

Great post “Fear”. These liberal lunatics just can’t wait for their messiah to swoop into the White House and make everything perfect. I can hardly wait for them to experience the disappointment that awaits them.

By getalife

November 24, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Um Andy,

This depression is on gop and w’s watch.

I can see wingnuts like you,JB,Fear, and LSU Tiger fan are disappointed in your party and taking it out on Obama but lets get real.

Your party destroyed our country. Go ahead and blame Obama if it makes you feel better.

Poor wingnuts.

I feel ya.

By getalife

November 24, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Hey private

Try to keep up.

By dave

November 24, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

Let’s get down to business - pay attention, they presented a variety of options. You just aren’t smart enough to understand….

By Soixante huitard

November 24, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this

Getalife, I don’t think there’s any evidence to support this (Geithner advised to let Lehman fail.) There’s some disagreement about his role, to what extent he opposed letting it fail, but I don’t think you can quite make this claim.

By Amelia

November 24, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

What if Obama’s birth certificate shows he was not born in the USA? What will happen? Will we have another election or will Joe Biden be president? That would be good. I find his candor refreshing and he has such lovely Irish eyes. When Irish eyes are smiling .. :)

By the way AJC/DNC Management, hemp is the male of the species and has no toxicity. In other words, you can’t get high off of it. I think you should try some marijuana. It may improve your disposition.

By getalife

November 24, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Sh,

Here ya go

By "The Corporal"

November 25, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this

To Midori

Don’t argue with me (I don’t know what the real truth is) …… take it up with Justice Souter.

I wouldn’t even be bringing this up if it weren’t for his December 1st court order and that’s not fiction - it’s posted on their website.

By SOUTHERN ATL

November 25, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this

Smears claiming Barack Obama doesn’t have a birth certificate aren’t actually about that piece of paper — they’re about manipulating people into thinking Barack is not an American citizen.

The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.

Next time someone talks about Barack’s birth certificate, make sure they see this page:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

By SOUTHERN ATL

November 25, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

“WHO’S BEHIND THE SMEARS…..

David Bossie, who runs Citizens United, has paired with Floyd Brown for years. Bossie and Brown harassed the Clintons throughout Bill Clinton’s administration, with even George H.W. Bush calling his behavior in the 1992 presidential election (which included harassing the family of a recent suicide victim) “filthy campaign tactics.” After writing a 2000 book about Al Gore that went little-noticed, in 2004, Brown and Floyd Bossie, working as the group Citizens United, made a movie called Celsius 41.11 and ran television ads attacking John Kerry. In 1998, Bossie was fired from his job with the House Committee investigating Bill Clinton. When Bossie selectively released tapes, removing information that exonerated the Clintons, and improperly obtained phone records, even Newt Gingrich said he was “embarrassed for the conference at the circus that went on.”

Then-President George Bush: “We will do whatever we can to stop any filthy campaign tactics.” [Press Conference, 7/15/92]

Current President George W. Bush sent a letter to 85,697 major donors urging them not to contribute to the Bossie/Brown groups in 1992. [Washington Post, 7/15/92]

George H.W. Bush’s campaign, referred to Bossie, Floyd Brown, and their associates as “the lowest forms of life.” [Hunting of the President]

Newt Gingrich: “I’m embarrassed for myself, and I’m embarrassed for the conference at the circus that went on” under Bossie in the House investigation of Clinton-Gore campaign finances. [Washington Post, 5/7/98]

Dan Burton, Bossie’s Boss in the House: “He released information on Mr. Huang’s telephone records without my knowledge or approval. I have told him in no uncertain terms that I do not allow my staff to release any information, including documents, without my approval, and that I do not expect this to happen again.” [Roll Call, 11/25/96]

Floyd Brown, the leader of the National Campaign Fund, the Legacy Committee, Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America and the Policy Issues Institute, once bragged he was part of the “the heart and soul of the right-wing conspiracy,” and has a history of surfacing every four years to make right-wing attacks against Democrats in presidential elections. Most infamously, Brown was responsible for the 1988 “Willie Horton” ad against Michael Dukakis. Brown harassed the Clintons throughout Bill Clinton’s administration, with even George H.W. Bush calling his behavior in the 1992 presidential election (which included harassing the family of a recent suicide victim) “filthy campaign tactics.” After writing a 2000 book about Al Gore that went little-noticed, in 2004, Brown and Floyd Bossie, working as the group Citizens United, made a movie called Celsius 41.11 and ran television ads attacking John Kerry.

USA Today: “[Brown has] established himself as one of the nation’s dirtiest political strategists.” [USA Today, 10/26/92]

George Stephanopoulos: “Floyd Brown is a slimy thug for hire.” [Washington Post, 4/19/94]

Mary Matalin: “I’m not a big fan of Floyd Brown…He gave us the Willie Horton ads that the Republican Party has had to eat for two election cycles now.” [New York Times, 4/24/94]

Salon: “If there is a racist odor to the coming general election campaign, it is likely to emanate from his vicinity.” [Salon, 4/25/08]

Bob Perry is one of the biggest Republican donors in the country and was the main financier of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 2004, giving $4.5 million. The ads produced by the Swift Boat effort were so disingenuous that John McCain himself denounced them as “dishonest and dishonorable.”

In 2006, Perry was again the top contributor to 527 groups, giving them more than $9 million.

His contributions were more than the next two biggest donors combined. Perry even funded an anti-gay ad in Montana that referred to “Brokebank Democrats” and ads featuring the home phone numbers of Democratic candidates.

Craig Shirley, who runs Stop-Him-Now.com, was a McCain campaign consultant and endorser until the campaign was faced with the possible illegal arrangement. Shirley, another member of the team that produced the Willie Horton ads in 1988, harassed the Clinton administration for years, staging the press conference where Paula Jones was introduced. Shirley not only represented “Unlimited Access,” a book described as “second-hand, unsubstantiated sexual rumors about and bitter attacks against President and Mrs. Clinton,” but also represents Ann Coulter’s books.

Bruce Hawkins, the Executive Director of the National Campaign Fund, has been involved in Republican campaigns for 20 years. Hawkins was recently disbarred in Washington state for violating four rules of professional conduct, running a business that promised to reduce credit card debt (but did not), and lying about conflict of interest. The same year, Hawkins was “permanently enjoined” by the justice department “from promoting tax-fraud schemes” after setting up illegal offshore tax shelters.

James Lacy is the treasurer and general counsel of the National Campaign Fund. He was the treasurer for the Legacy Committee; is the contact for the Policy Issues Institute; and is the treasurer for Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America. Lacy is a “long-time conservative activist” and a “soldier in the conservative movement for many, many years.” Lacy, who served as a lawyer for the Minutemen, once said he was “willing to do whatever it takes to preserve the Minuteman Project.” Lacy also co-founded the United States Justice Foundation, an organization that got its start in “reverse-discrimination” suits.

By SOUTHERN ATL

November 25, 2008 12:21 AM | Link to this

WHO’S BEHIND THE SMEARS….

David Bossie, who runs Citizens United, has paired with Floyd Brown for years. Bossie and Brown harassed the Clintons throughout Bill Clinton’s administration, with even George H.W. Bush calling his behavior in the 1992 presidential election (which included harassing the family of a recent suicide victim) “filthy campaign tactics.” After writing a 2000 book about Al Gore that went little-noticed, in 2004, Brown and Floyd Bossie, working as the group Citizens United, made a movie called Celsius 41.11 and ran television ads attacking John Kerry. In 1998, Bossie was fired from his job with the House Committee investigating Bill Clinton. When Bossie selectively released tapes, removing information that exonerated the Clintons, and improperly obtained phone records, even Newt Gingrich said he was “embarrassed for the conference at the circus that went on.”

Then-President George Bush: “We will do whatever we can to stop any filthy campaign tactics.” [Press Conference, 7/15/92]

Current President George W. Bush sent a letter to 85,697 major donors urging them not to contribute to the Bossie/Brown groups in 1992. [Washington Post, 7/15/92]

George H.W. Bush’s campaign, referred to Bossie, Floyd Brown, and their associates as “the lowest forms of life.” [Hunting of the President]

Newt Gingrich: “I’m embarrassed for myself, and I’m embarrassed for the conference at the circus that went on” under Bossie in the House investigation of Clinton-Gore campaign finances. [Washington Post, 5/7/98]

Dan Burton, Bossie’s Boss in the House: “He released information on Mr. Huang’s telephone records without my knowledge or approval. I have told him in no uncertain terms that I do not allow my staff to release any information, including documents, without my approval, and that I do not expect this to happen again.” [Roll Call, 11/25/96]

Floyd Brown, the leader of the National Campaign Fund, the Legacy Committee, Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America and the Policy Issues Institute, once bragged he was part of the “the heart and soul of the right-wing conspiracy,” and has a history of surfacing every four years to make right-wing attacks against Democrats in presidential elections. Most infamously, Brown was responsible for the 1988 “Willie Horton” ad against Michael Dukakis. Brown harassed the Clintons throughout Bill Clinton’s administration, with even George H.W. Bush calling his behavior in the 1992 presidential election (which included harassing the family of a recent suicide victim) “filthy campaign tactics.” After writing a 2000 book about Al Gore that went little-noticed, in 2004, Brown and Floyd Bossie, working as the group Citizens United, made a movie called Celsius 41.11 and ran television ads attacking John Kerry.

USA Today: “[Brown has] established himself as one of the nation’s dirtiest political strategists.” [USA Today, 10/26/92]

George Stephanopoulos: “Floyd Brown is a slimy thug for hire.” [Washington Post, 4/19/94]

Mary Matalin: “I’m not a big fan of Floyd Brown…He gave us the Willie Horton ads that the Republican Party has had to eat for two election cycles now.” [New York Times, 4/24/94]

Salon: “If there is a racist odor to the coming general election campaign, it is likely to emanate from his vicinity.” [Salon, 4/25/08]

Bob Perry is one of the biggest Republican donors in the country and was the main financier of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 2004, giving $4.5 million. The ads produced by the Swift Boat effort were so disingenuous that John McCain himself denounced them as “dishonest and dishonorable.”

In 2006, Perry was again the top contributor to 527 groups, giving them more than $9 million.

His contributions were more than the next two biggest donors combined. Perry even funded an anti-gay ad in Montana that referred to “Brokebank Democrats” and ads featuring the home phone numbers of Democratic candidates.

Craig Shirley, who runs Stop-Him-Now.com, was a McCain campaign consultant and endorser until the campaign was faced with the possible illegal arrangement. Shirley, another member of the team that produced the Willie Horton ads in 1988, harassed the Clinton administration for years, staging the press conference where Paula Jones was introduced. Shirley not only represented “Unlimited Access,” a book described as “second-hand, unsubstantiated sexual rumors about and bitter attacks against President and Mrs. Clinton,” but also represents Ann Coulter’s books.

Bruce Hawkins, the Executive Director of the National Campaign Fund, has been involved in Republican campaigns for 20 years. Hawkins was recently disbarred in Washington state for violating four rules of professional conduct, running a business that promised to reduce credit card debt (but did not), and lying about conflict of interest. The same year, Hawkins was “permanently enjoined” by the justice department “from promoting tax-fraud schemes” after setting up illegal offshore tax shelters.

James Lacy is the treasurer and general counsel of the National Campaign Fund. He was the treasurer for the Legacy Committee; is the contact for the Policy Issues Institute; and is the treasurer for Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America. Lacy is a “long-time conservative activist” and a “soldier in the conservative movement for many, many years.” Lacy, who served as a lawyer for the Minutemen, once said he was “willing to do whatever it takes to preserve the Minuteman Project.” Lacy also co-founded the United States Justice Foundation, an organization that got its start in “reverse-discrimination” suits.

By Frederick Douglass

November 25, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

The birth certificate claim is disenfranchisement, which has been in effect since 1620, where blacks are concerned. Who could forget the 3/5th rule, or poll taxes, or election exams, same old stuff. Why don’t the people that cling to those feelings just come clean and admit they’re consumed with hate?

By Dondee

November 25, 2008 6:18 AM | Link to this

Yes, let’s just wish for time to speed by so the Annointed One can come in and clean everything up….A poster above mentioned an “Obama Bubble”…..yep, when it pops baby, it won’t be a pretty sight……but let’s keep wishing for rainbows and unicorns….Gag/

Oh and a recession and depression….Yeah, on W’s watch but caused by LIBERAL policies that permitted/forced loans to those with poor qualifications….been around since the 70’s and the illustrious Jimmy Carter….put that in your peace pipe and smoke it…..

By DB, Gwinnettian

November 25, 2008 7:27 AM | Link to this

This morning I was thinking about what Obama’s been left to work with, and compared it to his predecessor.

I really did try to imagine what nasty stuff Clinton left for Bush. There were a couple of things. Obviously, you had the Cole attack that remained to be thoroughly investigated; you had a tapering-off economy, albeit one that was still in very good fundamental shape.

And beyond that? You had a government bringing in nearly enough revenue to pay as it went (ok, not if you subtracted the SS trust fund, but it was fairly close.)

And you compare it to what Obama’s got. Whew.

I really enjoy hearing folks like our “Dundee” tell us that “Yeah, on W’s watch but caused by LIBERAL policies that permitted/forced loans to those with poor qualifications…”, parroting garbage he’s been fed by Rush, Sean, and the Savage Weener. I enjoy hearing it because there isn’t a rational person living today who actually believes it; I enjoy hearing it because I have just watched a national campaign crash and burn, gloriously, trying to get a nation of voters to believe those lies.

I enjoy all that, but I’m not going to enjoy the pain we’re all going to experience adapting to these lean times. Hopefully, Obama’s administration will get those public works projects on board quickly, a whole lot of Americans will be back on the job, and we’ll get out of this mess with some semblance of our national identity and prestige intact.

By cdawg

November 25, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this

Jan. 20th will be here in 56 days.

By OIUH

November 25, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this

JANUARY 20, 2013

By DB, Gwinnettian

November 25, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

OIUH, I think this Prickly City ‘toon put it best.

(And I don’t really care for the comic strip most of the time.)

I’m trying to remember how it felt in 2004 and act accordingly. If I mess up, feel free to let me know.

By Call it Like it is

November 25, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

Amen Dusty!

Nicely written.

Robin Hood and the Socialist Party will soon take over and do nothing!

Enough Said!

By kitty

November 25, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

JANUARY 20, 2013

You mean when Obama has his second inauguration after sweeping what ever confused candidate the GOP puts up?

That JANUARY 20, 2013???

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

What I love about the chicken littles who insist the Sky Will Fall the moment President Obama is sworn in - is they run in circles bleating nonsense as if anyone could follow thier aimless rants.

Might I offer that instead of randomly throwing feces against the wall like a caged animal - you should consider a single point and stick to it - perhaps someone would pay attention and respond with a conversation you both can learn from.

Then again, you can continue on your wandering journey to find a consistent message.

Consider this:

James Baker, the former secretary of state and current Republican eminence grise, made an amazing suggestion on “Meet the Press” Sunday — that Bush and Obama develop and announce a joint economic rescue program. It was a stunning acknowledgment of how weak the Bush presidency has become and how dangerous it would be to spend the next two months meandering from crisis to crisis.

But that’s the road we’re on. When I get frustrated with Paulson’s zigzags and reversals, with his overnight decisions to buy huge companies or write hundred-billion-dollar checks, I remind myself that he doesn’t really have a president to work for. The poor man may stumble here and there, but he’s dancing as fast as he can.

• Washington Post

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

By Dondee

Yes, let’s just wish for time to speed by so the Annointed One can come in and clean everything up….

Annointed? No.

Elected? YES

Whatever wishes the undereducated have for President Obama to fail - before he even takes the oath of office should look at themselves in the mirror and say

I’m Proud To Be An American

without any guilt

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Corporal

Sheesh. the birth certificate thing the best and only comment you have to lean on?

c’mon

George Bush has done quite enough damage. The majority of us are more than ready for him to step aside, and allow some competent people to start making decisions. I’m not sure anyone really knows how to fix the huge mess left by the Bush administration, but at least Obama will appoint competent advisors. Even then, it’s going to take time.

You Limbaugh parrots have consumed far too much of the koolaid. Obama doesn’t have the authority to make decisions until January 20th.

However, can anyone argue that the President-ELECT has not stepped his game up far earlier and far more effectively than any incoming president during a transition period?

Obama is working hard for the United States.

Even for those who want him to fail.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Call It Like It Is

Obama has done more in the interim role than Bush has done in four years.

Bush is an ideological purist, someone who believes that govt shouldn’t play a vital role in bettering the lives of its citizens, unless of course those citizens are rich.

He’s been busy wrecking the country from the moment he took office, so it seems consistent that his crowning “achievement” would be an economic disaster of epic proportion. And by the way, Bush didn’t make these decisions alone. He was advised by a huge team of conservatives, so there’s plenty of blame to go around.

By wow

November 25, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

The only time you guys go to a library is to use a computer to send your great insights to the AJC. I can’t believe how dumb people in Georgia are! And they brag about it in print!!! Typically, tragedy brings neighbors together. But you hicks would rather keep flinging dung than work together at this time of crisis. The last 8 years have been a failed regime that effected our country and the world. Just admit how stupid you were - TWICE - and help people rebuild this country.

By WestSider

November 25, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

TW…I know you are a Troll and I usually don’t make it my business to fall into the trap, but I feel I must respond to your statement.

You honestly feel the GW (for all his faults…I am NOT a supporter) “did as much damage as Al Queda” ? What the H**l are you smoking? Were you cromatose on 9/11 or are you just profoundly stupid (or both)???

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

THE ECONOMY

(From The Mainstream Media)

Confidence in the system will not be restored as long as top officials fail or refuse to fully explain their actions.

Mr. Summers does not face Senate confirmation; Mr. Geithner does. The senators should press him for the answers that have been lacking. That is the only way to understand his philosophy and approach going forward.

Congress must play a more active role in crafting, analyzing and continuously monitoring all bailout efforts — current and those to come. Unlike President Bush, who ceded far too much power to his treasury secretary, Mr. Obama must challenge and question his advisers’ recommendations and decisions. He has chosen tough advisers. He must be even tougher than they are.

• New York Times editorial

By DB, Gwinnettian

November 25, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

“You honestly feel the GW (for all his faults…I am NOT a supporter) “did as much damage as Al Queda” ? What the H**l are you smoking? Were you cromatose on 9/11 or are you just profoundly stupid (or both)???”

Compare the number of innocent people killed on 9/11 to those killed in our Iraq invasion and occupation, and ask that question again, if you like. You might feel a tad foolish, though.

By williebkind

November 25, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! He is backing off the election promises. OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! I can not wait for Jan 20. I too like the liberals do not have to support the President of the United States. OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!! OBAMA LIED!!

By "The Corporal"

November 25, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

To mister.earl

As usual, you liberals choose to avoid the specifics of a debate. I am not talking about Obama’s transition efforts. That’s for another debate.

I simply bring up the fact of Justice Souter’s outstanding court order for December 1st.

Do you wish to comment on why Justice Souter has done that ??

By Midori

November 25, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Don’t argue with me (I don’t know what the real truth is) …… take it up with Justice Souter.

I wouldn’t even be bringing this up if it weren’t for his December 1st court order and that’s not fiction - it’s posted on their website.

how am I “arguing” with you over this?

all I’m saying is “good luck with that”

and Souter dismissed the case. It is Thomas who has agreed to a hearing on the birth certificate/citizenship issue.

For you to be so wrapped up and passionate about this, you sure don’t keep up much, do you?

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

POSTING POLICY

To: Mr Jay Bookman

Can you please moderate this thread so that ignorant types (williebkind) can have their personal insults eliminated in violation of the AJC posting policy?

The AJC has a responsibility to direct the conversation past the scores of idiots who have nothing to offer.

Thank You

By williebkind

November 25, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

By Midori November 25, 2008 9:30 AM: After reviewing your link and the comments posted under it, I am now convinced Hawaii is holding a kenya birth certificate. Obama lied! He is not a citizen. His wife is really ugly too!

By ABBA!

November 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Will be a sad day indeed when W. leaves office. Socialism will prevail, as will surrender. We shall no longer be feared around the World, but laughed at. Biden will make a horrible President, after the coop.

By ABBA!

November 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Will be a sad day indeed when W. leaves office. Socialism will prevail, as will surrender. We shall no longer be feared around the World, but laughed at. Biden will make a horrible President, after the coop.

By Midori

November 25, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

willie,

whatever. Just as long as you’re “convinced”.

Rocket scientists such as yourself can’t be wrong, now can you?

and why am I guessing that you look like someone wearing cleats stomped on your face?

By williebkind

November 25, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

To Mr Jay:

Tell mister.earl I have first ammendment rights just like liberals. I can say anything I want about any public figures. I have not done anything but exercise my rights and mister.earl can just grin and bear it. I too can act like a liberal. I may invade a progessive church and cause confusion.

By ABBA!

November 25, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

NOBAMA LIED! HE LIED! HE IS A LIAR! WHY DOESN’T HE SEND HIS CHILDREN TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS! You idiots elected a know Cocaine user to the highest office in the land! I bet he still smokes tobacco too!

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

williebkind - your first amendment rights do not guarantee the right to be printed in any forum where a moderator equates your infantile tantrums as being devoid of value

ABBA - do you have anything of value to add?

Please grow up

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Get Real

williebkind - you don’t know the definintion of “liberal”

You are just scared

By making

November 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

I’m still waiting for the token GOP secretary…which will never appear, once again another Obama lie.

By jay/gay bookman

November 25, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

How funny it is watching you bedwetters scream for W. to step down early. I didn’t hear any of you calling for Slick Willie and the HildaBeast to vacate early when they were busy burglarizing the White House of Taxpayer owned furniture. That was nothing, wait til barack osama gets his eviction notice on Jan. 20, 2013. It will be interesting to see what Homie and his motel queen have done to the Black House by then. We may have to demolish and start over, worst parts gonna be trying get public housing for all the cousins who been stayin at the Osamas crib.

By A white man who has worked all his life

November 25, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

I am just hoping we can make it to January 20, 2013, and correct this grievous error of history.

Yes, I am the first in my family to go to college. I grew up eating a lot of beans, peanut butter, and pancakes for dinner. I had no A/C in our house in the south, and only a floor furnace for heat. I worked and paid my own way through college, and have worked or been in school every day of my life since 1967. So don’t give me your platitudes and talk about how “privileged” I am.

It makes me sick.

By tiff

November 25, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

ABBA, Obama’s children were already in private school. “DUMMY”. Why should he have to take them out to please you. And why is it so important for the republicans to want that the rest of the world to fear them. Is the fear factor a way of compensating for your other short coming. For instance when people like you and Bush lack intelligence, you compensate by harming people. People like you are stupid, so instead of thinking your way out of a problem, you send thousands of soldiers to be disfigured, killed or become psychologically unstable for the rest of their lives. Not to mention the children and families that are destroyed in the process. And as for the economy when you only get threw school on your family name, and spend all your time drinking and womanizing you don’t have the sense to get the country out of economic hardship so what do you do. You give away Billions upon Billions to people who already have Billions upon Billions instead of putting the money where it can be used the most. So ABBA if you will be sorry when W leaves office you really need to crawl out of that hole and get a life. Because the one you got ain’t working for ya.

By FightTheIgnorance.com

November 25, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

RE: The Fake 1961 Hawaii Birth Certificate “Image” on Obama’s Own FightTheSmears.com Web Site

Why are OBAMA SUPPORTERS not intelligent enough to see that the birth certificate IMAGE on fightthesmears.com is a fake?

Why are OBAMA SUPPORTERS not smart enough to see that the background imagery, format and even type font on Obama’s FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE did NOT EVEN EXIST in 1961?

Why are OBAMA SUPPORTERS think that fightthesmears.com, an Obama-created, Obama-funded & Obama-run web site would report anything objective, not to mention anything even remotely NEGATIVE, of Obama?

By SOUTHERN ATL

November 25, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

DECEMBER 1, AND BARACK OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE…

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

IF THIS INFO IS NOT CLEAR, PLEASE CONTACT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SOUTER AT:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/

By Curious Gal

November 25, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

If Obama is honest and sincere about truly being an American citizen, why is he having to use a phony birth certificate, clearly generated by a 21st Century computer, that does not even look REMOTELY accurate or authentic for a document from 1961???

Hmmmmm………

*Wow.

I think I just answered my own question.*

By making

November 25, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Maybe this will open the door for Arnold…the Governator!

By fearless fosdik

November 25, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Jeez, will you right wing loons please get over this birth certificate nonsense.

The birth certificate has been verified by the state of Hawaii!!!

http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news

By Sax B. Gone

November 25, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

McCain wins, our economy tanks, and America is decimated. Republicans blame Clinton.

Obama wins, our economy tanks, and America is decimated. Republicans blame Obama.

I get so tired of the predictability.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

williebkind - your first amendment rights do not guarantee the right to be printed in any forum where a moderator equates your infantile tantrums as being devoid of value

ABBA - do you have anything of value to add?

Please grow up

By HUH?

November 25, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Good Grief - williebkind - are you a 6 year old? Grow up or go away!

By SOUTHERN ATL

November 25, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

FightTheIgnorance.com November 25, 2008 10:35 AM

This is an EMERGENCY situation that you are referring too. Please contact the FBI or CIA and of course the Supreme Court Justice Souter so that you can report your claim. While you are at it, you might want to start a class action case and get the rest of the people on this blog to sign on. Let me know how it turns out!!

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/

By "The Corporal"

November 25, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

To those of you who keep saying the State of Hawaii has verified the birth certificate - they have. And that means nothhing as the certificate could be false on it’s face. The sites you provide have a copy of the same old unverified certificate which does not match with other certificated from that time frame.

And Midori, you prove my point. I don’t follow it that closely, I just want the truth out with an independent forensic analysis of this whole thing - I don’t care which Justice handles it……………..

By making

November 25, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Let’s just hope nothing happens and Biden gets in office…that would be a real nightmare!

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

THE SKY IS FALLING!

The next person who spits up the birth certificate nonsense regarding the President-Elect shoud be banned.

Curious Gal and the rest, who have nothing of substance to offer, are identical to small babies who can’t keep food down… Read my lips:

President-ELECT Barack Obama won. Get over it.

If you can’t handle your personal trauma that is The 2009 Inauguration - here is a simple solution. Please go walk your dog or read a book. Hug your kids. Go to church. Anything.

Get your security blanket and hug it tight. Perhaps that will comfort you in yout time of fear and loathing.

Whatever brings you comfort, do it.

Keep your personal fears and bias within the boundaries of your homes. Please do not attempt pass your fears down to your children as the have probably moved into the present faster than you imagined.

On January 20, The rest of US will celebrate and then get to the serious business of moving forward

Step aside

By You Can't Fight Ignorance

November 25, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Ignorance is irrational. Ignorance is paranoia. Ignorance is lunacy. You can’t fight ignorance; it is the scourge of reason.

Just like the tin-foil hat crowd that wants to take issue with President-elect Obama’s birth certificate. Enough already.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/borninthe_usa.html

By making

November 25, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

lol

By williebkind

November 25, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

By mister.earl November 25, 2008 10:53 AM You called me an idiot. I have not called anyone bad names just stated my opinion. YOU asked Jay to ban me for my opinion. Now, I have just mimicked liberal responses on this blog and other blogs. You did not like my opinion and got me banned. YOU are such an Americam! You liberals attacked Palin’s daughter and did you ban those who did that? NOPE! I blog Obama just like you blogged Bush.

Do I have anything of value to add? Not to a socialist like you.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

making - are you any relation to the Geico caveman?

Grow up

By GodHatesTrash

November 25, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

It seems that some that have claimed to have “seen the elephant” actually smoked it, too.

Whacky!

By making

November 25, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

mister.squirrel - what just pointing out the fact that Obama hasn’t taken office and he’s lied three times…1 taxes 2 children to attend public school 3 GOP Secretary. More lies to come…now go hunt for nuts!

By mike the plumber

November 25, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

mister.earl is John ” I be ridin whoever the winnin horse is” Lewis in drag. I look forward to the next 4 years, Peanuthead Carter, Slick Willie and his magic cigar, Al The Bore, Scarry Kerry and now the terroist lovin puppet boy. PRICELESS. After this the Dumocraps should just about be finished, I can’t wait for this Idiot to fall on his face. Huckabee 2012.

By JAY BOOKMAN

November 25, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Earl and willie, take your feud somewhere else.

By Call it Like it is

November 25, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

I support and second williebkind’s statements.

mister.earl, all you want to do is act like you are the most educated one on this blog and bring nothing to the table when responding.

As far as Obama, again, the only reason this empty suit won was because of race and this image thing that the bias media propped up so he would win. They never bashed him the way that they did Palin. Which, by the way, they should have based upon his past and current associations with Wright, Ayers, and Farrahakan, but no one seems to want to know the truth about these associations. Instead, he got a pass.

I’m not one who will cast a vote based upon skin color and Socialist ideas.

If McCain had of been Black, I would have voted for him. Instead, most nontax paying govenment dependent people cast their vote for someone who has made a lot of promises that he will not be able to keep! So, shame on them for buying into that.

I’m glad Bush was our President when we were attacked and not that spineless Clinton who did nothing when the USS Cole was hit! Again, Bush has made mistakes, and he has owed up to them. It is easy to armchair quarterback when you are not in the game.

Others have their opinions just like you, although we may not agree.

Enough Said!

By fearless fosdik

November 25, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

By making @ 11:25 AM

MAKING .. As noble as it might have been for Obama to send his girls to public school, it seems completely impractical. The Secret Service concerns are considerable, and making sure the girls are safe would probably place a burden on any public school, especially an urban public school. Private schools are better suited to the security requirements.

As far as you calling him a liar on taxes, consider he has yet to be sworn into office, he’s still the president elect!

GOP Secretary ??? How are your power point skills? Maybe you could qualify!

By S. Freud

November 25, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Please, don’t feed Mr. Earl. It only gives him more opportunity to use the pseudo-masculine putdowns he learned from reading those “how to deal with difficult people” books. Ironically those books are about people like him, but there it is just the same.

By making

November 25, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

By fearless fosdik…BUT he said they would attend public school like Amy Carter…the ONLY safe measure for them would be to have them tutored in the White House…after 9/11, it’s a dangerous world BUT since it went over your head…he lied and will keep it up. God I hate stupid people…

By thogwummpy

November 25, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

It’s going to be interesting to see all these Clintonistas that Obama is appointing in economic positions, deal with an economy WITHOUT an internet bubble to ride. Curiously, when some dweeb says that Clinton was an economic genius, I ask them to name just ONE economic initiative Clinton originated that led to prospertity. They can’t answer. (Just like the alledged “lies” Bush told to lead to war, there is no there there…doesn’t exist.) New Deal? UCLA just released a study [that confirms what Econ. 101 students realize in college] proving FDR’s policies deepened and extended the Great Depression by SEVEN YEARS. So, even though moonbat communists like Bookman want to crown Obama emperor…socialism does NOT produce prosperity; it demoralizes those industrious people and dis-incentivizes them from bothering to make the effort anymore. Socialism, is the lazy using the government to enable their parasitic behavior. This is why the Democrat constituency, is the poverty mindset…and don’t kid yourself, the Dims have a vested power interest in keeping as many people dependent and poor as possible. America, you were warned.

By "The Corporal"

November 25, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

To mister.earl,et al

Is that how you handled the election of President Bush ? Twice ?

Expect no less from us …………..

By GodHatesTrash

November 25, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Earl, in an attempt to keep the playing field more level, Bookman holds the non-Neanderthals to a higher standard.

The RightWingnuts post pretty much whatever they want here, and if Bookman calls them on something, invariably he calls out someone on the decent, intelligent side of the argument, too.

His idea of “Fair and Balanced”.

Hey Bookman - Alan Colmes is quitting - maybe you could be Hannity-poo’s new toy.

By scottnjaxbeach

November 25, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

This administration is setting itself up perfectly to blame everything on the previous administration when all of their solutions fail!

Oh and one last thing, to all of you YANKEES who moved to Georgia and now claim yourselves as native Georgians I have just one thing to say……

“Get the Hell out of here and go back to your Yankee Homelands!”

By williebkind

November 25, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

The governments have been forging documents since the beginning. The government is a pro at it. I do not put it above liberals to hide the truth about any documents suggesting Obama is not a natural born citizen. America and tradition have no values in their idiology. I have doubt until the document is proven authentic. This should have been done prior to selecting Obama as a candidate.

By holly

November 25, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

We finally have voted on a competent, articulate , educated man for the white house. Finally America is tired of the true bull of politics

By Flock of Sea Bass

November 25, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Sitting here watching TV news briefs for the first time in weeks. So, what the heck is the “Office of the President-Elect”?

Why does this guy feel compelled to put on appearences? That stupid faux-presidental seal during the campaign, the faux-temple during the convention, the outsized stadium victory party after the election, and now a fake pre-presidental office.

Is he not comfortable with who he is? He is going to be the President of the United States for Christ’s sake. Stop with the pretending already.

By Slim Pickens

November 25, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

He looks good now, Holly, because we don’t have any other choice. The people were also hopeful when James Buchanan was elected. Turned they had to wait another four years for the real Lincoln. We’ll see.

By Midori

November 25, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

here you go Corporal and Willie

that ought to get those wingnut juices flowing.

you don’t have to thank me.

By Midori

November 25, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

what would you wingnuts do without Fox News

when your master beckons, you all rush forward, snarling, grunting and dripping saliva.

By Red

November 25, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

The simple fact is that, yes, while we are elated that Obama has been elected, he hasn’t taken office yet. The pardons keep coming, but that could all be a ruse to make us think they are leaving office on Jan. 20- what if, oh I don’t know, something ‘terrible’ happens on January 15th and Bush proclaims himself President for Life? It could happen…just like the fake WMDs

By Flock of Sea Bass

November 25, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

If you are referring to me, Midori, I saw the sign while watching CNN. Please keep you character generalizations to your hateful self.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Flock of Sea Bass

If President ELECT Obama just sat home watching television as you are doing - people would criticize him for not having a plan on the economy.

He would be painted as lazy.

No matter what he does it won’t be good enough for the Limbaugh minions who have decided he does not deserve the chance to suceed.

They simply hate the fact that January 20 is a day closer.

Step aside

Jay Bookman - my apology for fueliing any so-called feud by you also have a responsibility to erase the oriiginal posts that are nothing more than personal insults.

I am simply hitting back at the morons who cheer burning crosses in the front yards of innocent people

You don’t always fight hate with flowers

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

JAY BOOKMAN

Please Raise the level of this and all AJC threads by eliminating any posts that are not backed with some semblance of reasoned thought with facts to back them up

Enough with the personal attacks

Is this is a major newspaper, or a bathroom wall?

By tiff

November 25, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Flock Of Sea Bass, You sound like an A-S-S. What you just said makes no sense, you are as uneducated as (making, willieb, curious gal, and Abba put together). “SORRY GUYS” but you know your stupid, i’m only stating the obvious. Asking what the “Office of the President-Elect” is that’s like Saxby asking what a recession is. Or Bush asking how to spell his middle name “W”. Or Sarah Palin asking “What country is Africa in”? As for him being a fake president. Anyone with half a brain knows every president goes through this process before taking office. If you had paid attention in class instead of throwing spit balls you would know that this is a transition period and that this office can not just be handed over after the election. The president-elect edifies himself so on day one he can fix the mess the last bafoon “W” made when he was in office. He’s just showing you how it should have been done from the beginning. And how to do it with style and class. And when he opens his mouth W’s IQ drops about 50 points. So don’t hate the man hate the game.

By making

November 25, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

tiff…lol

By Flock of Sea Bass

November 25, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

What a bunch of hypocrites. For you ideologues know I voted for the man. I find the pseudo-trappings of an office he doesn’t yet hold offensive. He doesn’t need that crap. Reminds me of Nixon’s outfitting the White House guards in those ridiculous dress outfits.

As for you tiff, there is no official “Office of the President-Elect”. He has a transition team. Once again, he doesn’t need fake symbols to enhance his role. We all know who he is. If he truly thinks they are needed, then we have elected the wrong man. He has a transistion team. Once again, he doesn’t need fake offical symbols to enhance his role. We all know who he is. If he truly thinks they are needed, then we have elected the wrong man.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

What’s Wrong With This Picture?

Of course if Obama fails at his lofty mission to turn the country economy on the path to productivity there will be dancing in the streets led by Limbaugh and Hannity

There will be mass celebrations trumpted by all the people who prayed and hoped for Obama to fail from day one. The screams of “I told you so” will drown out everything else.

Strange thing - These are the same people who chant “USA, USA, USA…”

Obama can not only be the blame for his first term but the 8 years of Bush as well.

It will be beautiful

By making

November 25, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

I just hope the next 4 years don’t seem as long as the long 8 “w” years.

By williebkind

November 25, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

By tiff November 25, 2008 Hey tiff I am a college graduate…what’s your beef? I suppose I do not talk or behave like you want? Another liberal gesture heh!!

JAY! I sure wished you were as good a gentleman about Sarah Palin and her family as you are about Obama’s.

You educated thinkers can have it. It is like debating with a stop sign.

I hope all you conservatives have a great Thanksgiving and a pleasant holiday.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Flock Of Sea Bass

In the svheme of things, the graphic design and set design elements that you are so fixated on are minimal.

In the same way the Republican sought to make a huge deal of the columns included in the Denver set design - you miss the intent was to find something - ANYTHING - they could grasp - because they were devoid of any message.

The Republican strategy to find fault with any perceived flaw in the Obama campaign seems not to have worked so well.

While your attention is riveted on logos and symbols, you miss the work that is going on to hire some of the most brilliant minds available to the new administration.

But that is not important. It is more essential to find fault with a person rather than support them - and all this - BEFORE he takes the Oath of Office.

Barack Obama has no honeymoon

He absolutely must fail

Nothing else will be accepted or discussed

By making

November 25, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Only in America!

By making

November 25, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Obama aides also have said that the president-elect is “on track” to nominate Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York as his secretary of state after Thanksgiving. What is Hillary…his golden turkey!!!

By making

November 25, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Poor Hillary…being served as leftovers!

By tiff

November 25, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Flock of Bass, there is no official “Office of nit-wit elect” either but Bush was elected to that one twice. As for the fake symbol comment you made, if Obama branded a big “O” on his you-know-what, as a symbol of who he is and what he stands for it wouldn’t matter to me. If he can get us out of this economic mess and this unrighteous war, I will forever be certain that we elected the right man. You see thats why McCain lost, he had people worrying about a bunch of who-shot-john, that mattered to none of us who are losing our jobs homes and savings. Office of president elect or transition team. When you think about it, none of it matters. You put peoples mind on a path to nowhere instead of talking about things that matter. When Obama gives a press conference talking about what he wants to do and how he wants to take this country in a better and different direction, people like you start talking about whats on the podium in front of him instead of listening to his message. He makes a lot of sense, but you don’t want to hear that because your brain won’t process anything that is logical. Case in point, when Obama was traveling the country talking about the economy, healthcare, unemployment, and the war, McCain and Palin had you idiots worrying about what school his kids would attend. Or whether he was an elitist. Or why he didn’t wear a flag pin. Mister Earl is exactly right with his 1:09 post if he were sitting at home doing nothing they would say he had no plan and that he was just plain lazy. He is both intelligent and visionary-that is the only thing that scares you about him. We are a great nation, and we don’t have to use fear to prove it. We just proved it by making Obama our president.

By Flock of Sea Bass

November 25, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Honestly, Earl, you sound like you won’t be happy unless Obama does fail so you can blame Republicans and be the one that says, “See, I told you so”.

You are depressing.

Obama deserves better than supporters like you.

By making

November 25, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

tiff…hate to inform you…Obama has said that yes the troops will come out of Iraq, but be also said MORE troops will be going into Afgan and Pakistan…war is war no matter what country we are fighting in.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Sea Bass

Lets get one thing straight

I could care less about Republicans or any other arbitrary titles ised to divide people

I have total confidence President Barack Obama will bring a refersiing dose of iintelligence and analytical reasoning to the Oval Office

I am simply amazed at people who are eager to point out and magnify his every flaw to forward their personal agenda - over the aganda of The United States.

Say it with me…. “USA, USA, USA…!!!!”

Difficult huh?

By making

November 25, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

I prefer…”God Bless America”…

By Flock of Sea Bass

November 25, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Earl, I simply said that the incoming president’s use of phony aggrandizement looked silly to me and that he didn’t need it. You and tiff have been ranting ever since about what I don’t know.

I certainly hope that Obama is surrounding himself with people who will tell him the truth and disagree with him when necessary – unlike the two of you who wouldn’t know objectivity if it hit you in the butt with a bass fiddle.

By mister.earl

November 25, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

One persons phony aggrandizement is another persons good design and orderly set design

It’s trival pursuit compared to the HUGE task in front of President Barack Obama starting on Janauary 20. Who really cares whether he has a well designed sign on his podium or not?

Really.

Maybe it’s just me but you seem very quick on the label trigger to paint Obama as phony.

Sea Bass - I hope The Inaugural Parade meets your strict standards of good taste.

I have a feeling you will find some fault in 3-4 million people showing up in The Nations Capital to share a few bright moments

By Flock of Sea Bass

November 25, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

Earl, you must be a hit at parties.

By tiff

November 26, 2008 1:07 AM | Link to this

Making, you are right war is war. But just what if you came home and found someone assaulting your wife and daughter would you say, I don’t believe in violence so heck let him do as he pleases. Or would you pick up you glock and plant one where it hurts. It amazes me how many people say they don’t believe in war or violence, but would not hesitate to go off if they were the victims. But let a country give safe haven to people who killed thousands of our citizens and everyone gets sensitive. If you can declare war on someone who invades your home, why is it not okay for the president to declare war on a country harboring known terrorist. There is a difference between Iraq and Afghan, one is harboring terrorist the other is not. That’s why we should not be in Iraq, but in Afghan. “GET IT”. If not f it. I have to finish these reports for tomorrow.