Jay Bookman

By Dusty

November 22, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Jay Bookman,

We already have a BIG PLAN IN ACTION in case you haven’t noticed. It takes time to work just like it took the economy time to change.

Paulson is working to stabilize the overall economic system and work with banks. NO MIRACLE is going to work overnight.

Obama did not say anything we did not know already. Anybody unaware of our economic condition is probably unconscious. Obama may be encouraging the country but he will work on what is already started.

But cut your own unconscious act. President Bush put to work some of the leading business minds in the country and they are struggling with it. Congress gave them money. Obama can do no more.

Acting like Santa Claus at the mall who will promise you anything and everything is fun but not likely to happen. Obama promises jobs. Great!! From where and for whom? The government? Whoopee!! Just say that taxpayers will give you a paycheck for a while. That is not a new solution. FDR must be smiling!!

By "The Corporal"

November 22, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

To Jay

If you face a big problem, you do big things to fix it. But it’s also true that there are no guarantees.

Hummmm ………Jay.

I don’t recall you saying anything like that during the campaign. As a matter of fact, I believe I recall you constantly stating ad nauseum that omniscient Obama had all the answers to everything.

Therefore, we expect perfection.

By NRB

November 22, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Funnel MORE money to public works? We already pay too much in taxes.

How about we eliminate all foreign aid and direct THAT money to rebuilding our roads and bridges? Would that be racist, somehow? Probably.

In any case, the government cannot create jobs, and only private industry can create alternative energies…not the dummies in public service.

How about enacting The Fair Tax and let capitalism run the course…it built this country up ahead of everyone else, now let’s get the stupid government outta the way and let it do what it does best.

By Mike

November 22, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

LOL. It is clear that Bookman is going to be as mindless a supporter of the Obama administration as he has been a mindless critic of Bush’s. I wonder if all of the conservative and liberal partisan hacks are getting together to share notes on how to switch roles.

By AmVet

November 22, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

…now let’s get the stupid government outta the way and let it (capitalism) do what it does best.

Hey, I have an idea!

Let’s underfund and understaff the SEC’s corporate oversight and policing agencies and let the capitalists police themselves so the government won’t have to clean up Wall Street!

We’re bound to save a bundle doing that!

By AJC/DNC Management

November 22, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Yeah, a bunch of windmills ought to get us back on the right track.

Sigh.

By getalife

November 22, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Citigroup is next for trickle up socialism and two more months of w’s failures.

Sigh.

By Taxpayer

November 22, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Windmills and Republicans working in unison to produce useful energy for America. Now, there’s a concept that is novel enough to patent.

By JAY BOOKMAN

November 22, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

SAYS CORPORAL:

“As a matter of fact, I believe I recall you constantly stating ad nauseum that omniscient Obama had all the answers to everything.”

SAYS ME:

You’re full of baloney. You can’t cite ONE instance in which I wrote anything like that.

By Davo

November 22, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

The real gist of this story is not what Obama is doing but what W is not. He is, unfortunately, still the president but you would never know it. 2 months is a long time to have a power vacuum yet I get the feeling thats what we have.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 22, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Corporal: It was Oblahmi that said he had all the answers.

During the kampaign anyway.

By getalife

November 22, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

Davo,

Too bad w and cheney do not care enough for their country to resign in disgrace and hand over power early.

By Greg Mendel

November 22, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

No, there aren’t any guarantees — only history as a guide.

The United States was a wealthy, prosperous country in the summer of 1929. Unregulated capitalism was filling the pockets of the already wealthy. The middle class got the leftovers and the poor got nothing.

Then the stock market crashed, then the banks. In the midwest, the weather “crashed.” The Great Depression didn’t happen overnight. It happened over a period of months, and lasted a decade. The previous Republican president — Silent Cal — dozed, ignoring the warning signs. The next one was helpless to stop the collapse.

Roosevelt, a Democrat, LEAD the country, and created the CCC, WPA, and other public works projects, saving the non-wealthy from starvation.

Remarkably, Roosevelt, a socialist liberal, still managed to lead America through the greatest war in history. A war he didn’t start.

In the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, middle class Americans were not nearly as affluent as they are today. How will today’s middle class react to losing the SUV, losing the computer and internet, losing the house, dining in breadlines? Will Starbuck’s run a soup kitchen?

Our current president praised free-market capitalism before the UN last week — while the stock market went into freefall and administration drones went begging to Saudi Arabia.

When you replace manufacturing, thrift and brains with consumption, entertainment, ignorance and military aggression, you get to beg your petro-drug dealer for a few bucks to get by.

By catlady

November 22, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

What a change from Bush the Clueless, who thought he could plan as he went, from the seat of his pants!

By "The Corporal"

November 22, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

To Jay

If you are now denying that you used the power of your journalistic pen to push Obama for all he was worth with never a citicism during the campaign (you supply me one if you did and it would be a rarity) then I truly feel sorry for you as you have lost all credibility. Every post you wrote about him was your attempt to show he had the answer to that particular problem.

You’re not getting by with this bait and switch. He was your man now quit being negative about him in any way. He was your guarantee to the American people.

What say ye conservatives out there? Is Jay truly :

Losing it ………

Up to his old tricks …..

By AJC/DNC Management

November 22, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Even though the Chosen One has descended from the heavens and Hope and Change abound, Queen Pinko remains stuck on cruise control-

The hamfisted tactics favored by George W. Bush, including his ill-fated invasion of Iraq, were a gift to al-Qaida and its recruiting efforts. They allowed bin Laden and Zawahiri to paint the U.S. government as an imperial power bent on a 21st-century crusade against Islam.-Urinal/Jihad

Uh-huh:

All Iraqi Ethnic Groups Overwhelmingly Reject al Qaeda- Overall 94 percent have an unfavorable view of al Qaeda, with 82 percent expressing a very unfavorable view.

Just make it up as you go Cynthia.

We Americans believe ourselves to be a force for good in the world, but the Bush administration’s wholesale detentions and widespread use of torture badly tarnished our reputation. That matters in the fight against jihadists, who win converts by convincing alienated young Muslim men (and, increasingly, women) that America is their enemy.

Does anyone else see the fundamental flaw in this insane, babbling logic?

O.K. so you’re a raghead in search of a cause and you don’t like “wholesale detention and torture.” So, according to Lunatic Lib, you would instead have a strong desire to join a group that indiscriminately blows up women and children.

Yeah, sure thing.

Al-Qaida’s cheap taunts, on the other hand, suggest its minions see something to fear in the new president. They know he’ll fight both the propaganda war and the shooting war a lot better than Bush ever did.

Such outrage, such indignity, over some insults?

Un.

Freaking.

Believable.

This same rag “news” paper whined and moaned on behalf of al Qaeda while they killed innocent civilians wholesale and now a racial slur brings an affront?

Isn’t this sick?

By Greg Mendel

November 22, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

“This same rag “news” paper whined and moaned on behalf of al Qaeda … “ — AC/DC

When was that? Examples, please.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 22, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, there is much consternation in thee Fever Swamps:

“With its congressional majority, the Democratic Party has refused to seriously try to end the war, to stop the bailout and to stop the trampling of civil liberties, just to name a few off the top of my head,” wrote David Sirota on the popular liberal blog OpenLeft, decrying the serial betrayals of Obama and the congressional Democratic majority. The Democratic Party, he wrote, has “faced no real retribution” for its manifold heresies, something that Sirota believes he and his band of angry bloggers must change. “We better understand why this happened,” he fumed.

Ahahaha, sucks don’t it?

The angry left is on the outs.

Conservatism rules.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 22, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

So who is going to be the first CTO? Another smart move by President Elect Obama.

I’m showing my support with my own infrastructure project. Sweat equity.

We can do this. Yes we can.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 22, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

And it get’s even better-

For weeks, they pounded their keyboards, huffed and puffed on their Internet radio shows and called on their readers to flood the offices of Democratic senators with phone calls and e-mails demanding that Lieberman be stripped of his chairmanship over the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Yet on Tuesday, Democrats voted an overwhelming 42-to-13 to let Lieberman keep that chairmanship.

“He wasn’t sanctioned,” seethed Markos Moulitsas, founder of the Daily Kos. “And Senate Democrats trying to make that claim are dishonestly trying to cover up the extent of their betrayal of the American people’s vote for change.”

Betrayal?

I mean really, your Wonder Boy did run as a Conservative.

Did you think he was lying?

As usual?

By Greg Mendel

November 22, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this

“This same rag “news” paper whined and moaned on behalf of al Qaeda … “ — AC/DC

When was that? Examples, please.

Nothing to cut? Nothing to paste?

And you call yourself a moron!

By Midori

November 22, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

First Steps to GOP Recovery By Mort Kondracke

How can the Republican Party rebound? The first step would be to quit letting Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham set its agenda……….

Step One is to fire Rush Limbaugh and his ilk as the intellectual bosses of the GOP. They shouldn’t be muzzled, as some liberals want to do by reviving the “fairness doctrine” in broadcasting, just ignored more frequently. In recent years, Republicans have let right-wing talk show hosts whip the GOP base into frenzies — over immigration, brain-damage victim Terry Schiavo and same-sex marriage — that have branded the party as troglodyte.

The result is that the demographic groups representing the future of American politics shifted decisively to the Democratic Party in 2008 — Latinos, young people, the well-educated, moderates, working women, first-time voters, suburbanites and “seculars.” As former White House political guru Karl Rove observed last week, “the GOP will find it hard to regain the majority” if it keeps losing Latinos.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 22, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

By Greg Mendel November 22, 2008 7:25 PM When was that? Examples, please. Nothing to cut? Nothing to paste? And you call yourself a moron!

Don’t pop your cork, Gregory, after all we did just fine with a Conservative president the last 8 years.

So what if Oblahmi is just a little weirder.

Who could be against staying in Iraq until al Qaeda is toast?

Other than Code Pinko that is.

By Taxpayer

November 22, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I believe the request from Greg Mendel was for you to back up the claim (repeated below) that you made. Do you have anything factual to share with us or not.

“This same rag “news” paper whined and moaned on behalf of al Qaeda … “ — AC/DC

By Greg Mendel

November 22, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

“Don’t pop your cork, Gregory, after all we did just fine with a Conservative president the last 8 years” — AC/DC

Interesting example of “did just fine.”

Where are those examples I asked for, SMF?

By GodHatesTrash

November 22, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Lock up this scum

By GodHatesTrash

November 22, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

Lock up this scum

By Midori

November 22, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

Sir Trash,

I ran across that story on the Huffington Post.

“scum” is too good a name for him.

By TW

November 22, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

School Super Kathy Cox a republican?

Nah…them republicans are real financial wizards…even better with the coin they are at managing a war…

By AJC/DNC Management

November 22, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

In the wake of Obama’s historic victory - he is the first Democrat to win a majority of the popular vote since Jimmy Carter and has seemingly reconfigured the electoral map by picking up states that Bush won just four years ago - many liberals have been quick to claim that the Democratic triumph means that we’re now living in a liberal country.

They should take a deep breath before reaching such conclusions. Only 22% of voters this year consider themselves “liberal” while 34% call themselves “conservative,” numbers roughly unchanged from four years ago. And as Doug Schoen pointed out in this space, it was moderates, not liberals, who played the decisive role in electing Barack Obama President. Obama knows this, which is why he has repudiated the Netroots time and time again, on issues ranging from Iraq withdrawal to FISA reform. Equally important, he rejected the hyperventilating wing of the party tonally, as evidenced by the calm and systematic way he ran his campaign.

Yeah, nutroots, go pound sand.

By GodHatesTrash

November 22, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

I know, Midori, but Bookman holds me to a higher standard than anyone else on his bog of a blog.

Have you noticed his friend Rastus’s stuff stays up for days?

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 22, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

Wow!Wowee!Wow!

The most liberal Senator in the whole big wide immense universe and dimension, former muslim terrorist America hating black liberationist east coast elite arulga eating celebrity fashionista and illegal imigrant ran as a conservative?

I been telling y’all all along if they say A, then B it is.

By Dusty

November 22, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

Still at it I see. FUNDAMENTALIST Democrats still hating and hating and calling names and quoting slanted sources. Talking about the war of aggression while our troops are still fight for US, you dimwits.

Greg Mendel, you are still living in freedom, are you not? But you cannot think of one thing that the President has done. And blaming Bush for what was brought about by TERRORISM!!

Every war is a war of aggression. People are killed.

You said you were in Viet Nam. Did you consider yourself an aggressor or someone fighting for the benefit of the USA in the future?

Now you insult our troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan with accusations about the war. You blame Bush when the whole world knew al Queida was after the USA and demonstrated so on 9/11. Bush knew it and did something about it.

The ingratitude of Democrats is epic. Your vision is blind. Your respect for this country is gone. You have made this country look like trash by your actions and words. Bush did not do it. You and your liberal news sources undermined this country trying to blame Bush while Europeans watched. Even they are amazed. Most citizens display some respect for their country and its leaders.

But not most Democrats. Now they are sure that an inexperienced man with bad associates is their redemption.

I think Obama is smarter and has more character than many of his followers. At least, I hope so. In the meantime, I will do what I can for the country and hope Obama will bring a brighter future to America. Let us hope that he has more character,intelligence and fairness than the hate drenched people who voted for him.

By Dusty

November 22, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzie,

Would you mind translating your 9:10? I’m sure it is something uplifting and terribly clever.

By Greg Mendel

November 22, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

“You said you were in Viet Nam. Did you consider yourself an aggressor or someone fighting for the benefit of the USA in the future?” — Dusty

I didn’t consider myself an aggressor. I probably thought I was there for the good of the country.

But, Dusty, I was 18 years old at the time. Now I know the truth about Vietnam. The troops who fought in Vietnam were betrayed by their government. They were betrayed by the flag-waving know-nothings of the time. 58,000 died for no reason other than answering their nation’s dishonest call — and making the flag-wavers happy. Flag-wavers who didn’t have to go.

They were duped, Dusty. Just like soldiers in Iraq have been duped. They should be admired for answering their nation’s call, for doing their duty.

But, Dusty, our nation should be ashamed of asking them to shed blood in that disaster of a war. There was no reason for it. It did nothing to thwart terrorists. It has created terrorists. It has created a legion of betrayed soldiers who are going to hate your guts for sending them on such a useless mission.

That’s not my partisan view. That’s my view of reality.

By "The Corporal""

November 22, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

To Greg and Dusty

Two views on Vietnam by David Donovan (Once a Warrior King).

Both are in my opinion true.

The second quote is framed and hangs in my study ………..

1) “If there was immorality in the war in Vietnam, it was that a democratic nation called her citizens to war, had them killed by the tens of thousands, and then, like a faithless lover, turned and scorned the survivors. Oh, perfidious nation!”

2) “I have the sense from time to time that I am not alone, and I suspect that despite the limited understanding we have of events in distant places, there will always be those among us who have the gleam of the quest in their eyes. They are people of every sex and station and the yearn to be challenged to a cause. They will always be looking for that wrong to right, that ill to cure, that song to sing; and there will always be those who will go to arms in aid of the helpless and the downtrodden. Ignoring the political issues of the moment, these people will champion the weak and the poor in the face of evil and tyranny. And no matter what the outcome, in their romantic hearts they will always keep the secret, if secret it must be, that they are better men for having held the lamp beside the golden door”.

Semper Fi

By Dusty

November 22, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Greg Mendel,

In other words, at 18 you supported your country and fought for it. And now, you don’t support the country’s efforts because you are so much wiser. Perhaps you are correct about Viet Nam. But the soldiers who died there were not incorrect. They were doing their DUTY just as you were.

Now you are totally off track because of your great “understanding” of war. Do you think anybody LIKES IT? NO. But this war in Iraq followed an act of aggression against our country. If you think terrorists would have faded from view if we sat around waiting on them, I cannot see anything they have done that would prove that. Bush saw what was in the future and did something about it. You now want to do NOTHING.

Did Viet Nam make you want to overlook 9/11? Did it make you betray our military that fights terrorists every day? How can you justify that? I have heard very little about soldiers coming back from Iraq and hating our guts.

Some have been killed, maimed or have suffered in many ways. They deserve everything we can give them. But what you give them…disloyalty, dishonor and disclaimers of their goal…well, I think they would turn their backs on you.

You may have a little gathering of anti-war do gooders but you harm the troops and the country. We did NOT create terrorists. We only fight them. You are encouraging them. You have forgotten too much since you were eighteen.

By Dusty

November 22, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Corporal.10:31

Both writings may be true for Viet Nam to some degree but I prefer the second one, the one you have hanging on your wall.

My father and son were in the army. My husband was in the Navy. Two of them served in war time. Neither one liked to talk very much about it. But they never considered any alternative to serving when asked by our country to do it. It is called allegiance as you well know. My feelings do not differ from theirs.

By Greg Mendel

November 22, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

“In other words, at 18 you supported your country and fought for it. And now, you don’t support the country’s efforts because you are so much wiser. Perhaps you are correct about Viet Nam. But the soldiers who died there were not incorrect. They were doing their DUTY just as you were.” — Dusty

When you get older and wiser — whether you were in the military or not — you have a DUTY to call a senseless war a senseless war. You have a moral obligation to think long and hard before you support your government’s sending someone else’s sons and daughters, much less your own, into harm’s way. It’s a lot to ask of them.

War is not glory, Dusty. War is insanity, misery, death, suffering and destruction. It’s not what you see on TV. It doesn’t end when the war is over.

I don’t believe there is never a time to fight, but those times are very, very few and far between. When you start a war — and our President Bush started one — you let the genie out of the bottle. You have no control over that genie of war. It goes places you cannot plan or imagine. Our mission was accomplished on May 1, 2003. But the genie is still at work. Still killing. Still maiming.

By Taxpayer

November 23, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this

Greg Mendel,

You sound like you have both a good head and a good heart. Good. That’s what makes this world.

By Eric1

November 23, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

Baloney is far too generous a discription of what what that corp. nut is full of.

By Taxpayer

November 23, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

By the way, Greg, I hope you do not let Dusty and others like her get to you. Her heart and mind have apparently been poisoned and it shows in the words that she threw at you for simply speaking how you feel. I, for one, agree with your assessment of war and I do hope that Dusty is able to understand your words some day.

By Joey

November 23, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this

Midori (8:01): Just for clarity let’s acknowledge that Mort Kondracke is a Democrat. I know to you and other Democrats that is not a reason to question the advise. But for others ….

Greg (10:23): Again for clarity: It was a much loved Democrat President who got the U.S. involved in VN. It was his Democrat successor who oversaw the huge build up of troops and other spending. Bothe seeking a standoff rather than victory.

It was the Republican who followed them who actually made a effort to win that war. It was to late though. The press, and many of the people, had made the decision that we must get out at any cost.

It was fortunate for the press and Democrats that a Republican served as President at the end of VN. That is still fodder for the influence peddlers.

Be careful President-elect Obama. Your assignment is to end the war and bring the troops home.

By artjazz

November 23, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this

Now what? It appears that we blacks have been hoodwinked again, bamboozled, by Obama and his entourage. Am I the only black person who has noticed that practically his entire inner circle is white or near white. Why are all the black commentators around the country keeping their mouths shut? Could it be that all of the elitist blacks around the country are only interested in getting a ticket to the inaugural Ball, and being seem. But then remember, Obama never mentioned poor people once in his campaign or speeches, it was “middle-class,” a catch phrase for white people. Do the math.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 23, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

By Greg Mendel November 22, 2008 10:23 PM I was 18 years old at the time. Now I know the truth about Vietnam. The troops who fought in Vietnam were betrayed by their government. They were betrayed by the flag-waving know-nothings of the time. 58,000 died for no reason other than answering their nation’s dishonest call — and making the flag-wavers happy. Flag-wavers who didn’t have to go.

John F Kennedy was a “flag waving” “know-nothing?”

LBJ?

Gregory: I thought you said you were in Cu Chi?

Wanna talk about South Vietnam regime change that happened 3 weeks before Kennedy was shot?

Wanna talk about LBJ and the Gulf of Tonkin?

Wanna talk about fighting with both hands tied behind our backs?

Wanna talk about target lists getting approval from the democrats in Washington DC before any actions could be taken?

Wanna talk about LBJ’s lead general, Westmoreland, and his strategy of fighting for ground at a horrific cost, only to abandon it the next day?

That’s^^ just some of the things the democrats did to ultimately lose Vietnam, the vast majority of those 58,000 dead came before Nixon took office.

And Nixon had it won before Watergate took him out and allowed the democrats in Congress to cut off funding to the South Vietnamese troops that had held their own ground against the communists for more than two years.

And all you got is “flag wavers?”

By TW

November 23, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

artjazz - The AG is black.

He’s also brilliant.

Perhaps Obama is using brains as a criteria over color in hopes that those who put color as the premium have recognized that we don’t have time for empty evaluation?

Maybe your efforts would be better directed at the OFWDB (Organization for white defensive backs) or the AWGNBA (American white guys in the NBA)?

Right now, however, the dire shape of our country receives no help from your nonsense.

By Greg Mendel

November 23, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

AC/DC: (RE: flagwavers)

As best I can tell, you were saying the Vietnam War was a product of a Democratic administration (it was) and we lost it because Nixon was impeached.

Getting involved was a mistake, the conduct of the war was a mistake, and the Vietnam War could never have been “won” without total occupation of N. Vietnam.

The Democrats were responsible for starting it. Nixon was responsible for prolonging it — despite his “secret plan to end the war” he used to get elected, but didn’t exist.

Vietnam dragged on because flagwavers pushed blind patriotism over reason. If you think we lost the war because of Watergate, you’re just out of your mind.

By shiny happy people

November 23, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

you’re damned right Management