Jay Bookman

By Goldie

November 17, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

I agree, JAY… Bill Kristol may be licking his wounds and finally beginning to see the light regarding the future of the Repug Party. But he’s still a puke-fest whenever I read columns, because of how slimy he’s been for the past decade.

By Joey

November 17, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

I am still giggling over that first paragraph. But I totally agree with the first paragraph.

I have a low regard for columist who fracture the truth or select small segments of a statement or use an unverified rumor in order to write an article. And they do this to score points or defend a position or to promote a position or because that is their assignment.

I had concluded that this must be what jounalist are trained to do in college.

In my 60+ years I have never read a Kristol column. Including today’s.

Jay, there are about 862 more or less other columist who fit the mold you made for Kristol. Finding one who does not, that is the challenge.

By "The Corporal"

November 17, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

I don’t have much regard for columnists who write and say things they know to be untrue just to score points or defend a position.

Jay - did you actually write the above sentence?

By getalife

November 17, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

When they lose credibility, we should ignore them.

I did read this and think it is true:

Paul Krugman is off today.

He has credibility.

By G

November 17, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Bill Kristol is a neocon and a liar and I don’t believe a word out of his mouth.

By Independent

November 17, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

A commentary on Kristol’s column from the NYT: “This is an admirable critique. The only problem is that it makes the same mistake that Brooks has been making lately. This is that it ignores the fact that the Democratic Party has been rising and changing and responsive while the Republicans have been bitter, divisive and losing. In essence what Kristol describes as his future hopes for Republicans is the modern Democratic Party.

He also is only really addressing Republicans who identify with the party for fiscal reasons. The Republican party is hog-tied by their marriage of convenience to social conservatives, who in fact mirror their economic brethren in actually being crazy, not conservative. Where Democrats have enlarged their base by accepting pro-life candidates and being less demagogic, Republican have all but scorched their own earth of anyone not aligned with the religious right (and not white and over 30).

So to Brooks, George Will, and now Kristol too it appears, take another look at the Democratic Party circa 2008. You might find it more in line with much of your thinking than the Palin-esque tatters that is the current Republican fiasco.”

By Swami Dave

November 17, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

While I disagree with Kristol at times as well (probably for different reasons), I agree that he makes some valid points in his article. The underlying tone of his commentary relates to the fact that the biggest obstacle for Republicans moving forward is answering the “why”.

Actions and policy opportunities will abound over the next few years, but the important task will be sharing the reasons and principles upon which they are founded. While everyone enjoys the time atop the mountain, it is usually the time spent in the valley where you find out the most and the best things about yourself.

To paraphrase Kristol’s thesis, the question right now is if Republicans will begin the hard word of ascending the slopes or waste time wandering the the desert. That, we shall see.

-Swami Dave

By RW-(the original)

November 17, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Jay B.,

I’ll take you at your word that you believe you don’t violate the tone and substance of your first paragraph even if it comes across that way to many of us. Does this paragraph also apply to news broadcasters? If so where would you place Keith Olberman?

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Jay Bookman, So you did not intentionally miquote Broun last week. Then wait almost an hour and a half to put his actual quote in the post. That mind you after numerous posters alerted you to your mistake.

Not saying that Broun was right, he was wrong in his assertion. But did you not try to tip the scale of public opinion, with your misguided and even made up portions of your post.

So why is it ok for you to do it Mr. Bookman. Then you feel the need to call others on it when you percieve they have done the same as you, but for the other side of the political system?

By LOLO

November 17, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

It’s time for the Libertarians to hijack the Republican Party since most people in this country don’t understand thrird parties because they only vote for the party they grew up voting for. So if Libertarians run under the GOP moniker we could get rid of a whole lot of the problematic issues addressed by Kristol.

By TN Gelding

November 17, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

The last sentence said it all.

They did not govern when in office, either.

Management, be sure and read this.

By RealityKing

November 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Except that the media’s misrepresentations, diversions, non-reporting and/or excusing through bogus fact checks are all exactly the same thing as knowingly reporting untrues. All of which we have clearly seen the AJC do in defence of their progressive messiah.

I wonder when Jay will start experimenting with sincerity too??

By RealityKing

November 17, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

DOW -191.95 -2.26% 8,305.36

1300 points down since Nov 4th. Feeling inspired yet??

By Truly Inspirational

November 17, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

DOW down while Bush is president. That’s the Reality. Now, who’s your King. Is it King Bush.

By Mike

November 17, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

LOL. Bookman’s utter lack of self-awareness is a never ending source of humor.

Jay: You are as intellectually dishonest as any partisan pundit, whether it is Kristol, Hannity, Coulter, Olbermann, Rich, Tucker etc. You are all the same and the same scorn that you feel for them is the same scorn that anyone who isn’t a hyper-partisan liberal feels for you. Get a clue. Evaluate yourself and come to grips with who you are and what you are.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Reality King…..

Yes. I am inspired.

Every time I realize that the lame duck responsible for this mess is on his way out. His final days spent looting our treasury and continuing deregulation.

We will clean up the mess.

Yes we can, Yes we will.

By RealityKing

November 17, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Citigroup to cut more than 50,000 jobs i.e, $150 million Obama tax cut for Citigroup next year. And the Obama effect continues..

Noticing that huge up tick in layoffs since the election?? We are now openly talking about it in our board meetings. I mean.., only a business moron would promise $3000 tax cuts to hire without thinking of the increased layoffs it would cause.

But of course, Jay will sincerely blame this on Bush too.

By TN Gelding

November 17, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

I’VE ENJOYED PARTICIPATING HERE OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

But combined with the stresses from the election and the stock market sell-off it’s made me sick. Seems every thought, no matter how shallow, goes right to my gut. So I’ll be signing off.

Best wishes and good luck!

Old soldiers never die…before becoming pacifists.

~Felix

“Men since the beginning of time have sought peace. Various methods through the ages have been attempted to devise an international process to prevent or settle disputes between nations. From the very start workable methods were found in so far as individual citizens were concerned, but the mechanics of an instrumentality of larger international scope have never been successful. Military alliances, balances of power, Leagues of Nations, all in turn failed, leaving the only path to be ‘by way of the crucible of war. The utter destructiveness of war now blocks out, this alternative. We have had our last chance. If we will not devise some greater and more equitable system, Armageddon will be at our door. The problem basically is theological and involves a spiritual recrudescence and improvement of human character that will synchronize with our almost matchless advances in science, art, literature and all the material and cultural developments of the past 2000 years. It must be of the spirit if we are to save the flesh.”

~Douglas MacArthur (1880-01-26 – 1964-04-05)

By Mike

November 17, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

LOL. Bookman’s utter lack of self-awareness is a never ending source of humor.

Jay: You are as intellectually dishonest as any partisan pundit, whether it is Kristol, Hannity, Coulter, Olbermann, Rich, Tucker etc. You are all the same and the same scorn that you feel for them is the same scorn that anyone who isn’t a hyper-partisan liberal feels for you. Get a clue. Evaluate yourself and come to grips with who you are and what you are.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 17, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

By getalife November 17, 2008 9:58 AM When they lose credibility, we should ignore them.

This goes along way to explain why you drink so freely of the Koolaid, al-Gitmo.

I, on the other hand, take each column with a grain of salt, that being whether the writer is a lib or a Con, and then judge the content based on their political leanings.

For instance this blog, I would never consider it anything other than an Oblahma kampaign press release.

If you know what I mean.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Reality King….

Did you know Obama was also responsible for the Original Depression?

He used a time machine that his science wonks invented at the end of his second term to go back in time to create the robber baron elite!

He singlehandedly forced men to jump off buildings, dried up the dust bowl, took away all the spoons in the soup lines AND tossed hobos off moving trains.

By Truly Inspirational

November 17, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Only a complete moron would a) keep people on the payroll when the business environment, i.e., profits, does not support the head count, b) lay off people who are needed in order to effectively run the business in hopes of possibly getting an extra $3000 at some time in the future, etc. Reality Bites the moron in the buttocks and that is truly inspirational.

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G Are people who quote Obama still racist?

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

tcoach….

never said they were……you seem really hypersenstive to race issues dude.

By Abomi Nation

November 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Wow thanks for that update RealityKing.

The Bush stock market has now lost 2,300 points!

This is reason people like Kristol have stopped defending the worst President ever.

At least the conservative columnists now admit it, they were wrong. Wow, were they wrong.

Conservative bloggers? Now that’s a different story. They owe a huge apology to columnists like Jay Bookman who had it right the whole time. But the conservative bloggers are still in denial. “Its the liberal media’s fault” they type as if it means anything.

As Republican/Conservative icon Guckert/Gannon once said…………..

Jay, how are you going to work – you’ve said you are going to reach out to these conservative bloggers – how are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?”

Blog on conservatives. Blog on.

By hhhhmmmm

November 17, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

How is Bush looting the treasury in his final days? Gosh, does neither side have any desire to start the conversation with premises based in truth? It’s so tiring to those of us in the middle.

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G yes you did, don’t lie to everyone admit to calling someone racist for quoting Obama.

It goes along way to expel you from credibility. Those that do not understand the ignorant lengths you are willing to go. I would feel bad if someone ever was on here and thought for a moment that you speak truth.

It actually has nothing to do with the race issue for me. The only reason I bring the issue up is it is a sterling example of what some will do in the ways of lies and accusations. You made the accusation of racism, yet you had not educated yourself properly. Then you have yet to admit your error. Instead you come here to criticise others post when you accused someone of being racist, for quoting Obama in his book. That is the point.

You seem quick to blame racism as the reason for people having differing views than yours. So ma’am it seems as if YOU are the true one with race issues.

Just admit you are quick to call race card and are vastly under-informed.

By Copyleft

November 17, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Kristol has a point, but I believe he underestimates the emotional aspect of market fundamentalism. For any free-market cheerleaders, it’s not a matter of policy—it’s a matter of FAITH.

The Chicago School sold the idea of efficient markets and government laissez-faire, and a whole generation of True Believers made these the cornerstones of their religion. Free-market fundamentalists aren’t impressed when deregulation backfires, or when deficit spending produces recessions; facts don’t matter to a True Believer.

That’s why the common-sense approach Kristol recommends (and which Obama is planning to implement) isn’t going to make an impact with the Republican Party’s economic thinkers. They have absolute, unshakable axioms like “Greed Is Good”, and no amount of real-world failure is going to change that.

Which is why America has turned to the Democrats for solutions. The Republicans are as locked into religious mania on economic issues as they are on social ones.

By E

November 17, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

The real problm with the GOP, and they can thank Karl Rove for this, is the fanatical religious right. The religious right is not a Christian group of people who care about this country, they are a radical group whose total goal is to undermine our government.

George Dubya won Texas because of the religious right. These are the people who approve of murdering a doctor who performs an abortion, but claim to be pro-life. They are mean spirited and care nothing for people in need.

In 2006 Karl Rove missed the golden ring because the people of this country were tired of this hypocrisy. Rove felt he had the religious right in lock step, but what he did not know was that the people were tired of extremism and that is what the GOP is all about.

So, in 2006 the GOP was hit hard at the polls and again in 2008 with a landslide (and would have been more so if our presidential candidate had not been a person of color). The only strength left in the party came from the most ignorant people living in the poorest conditions who are in lock step with their ministries. Even the media made note of the crowds and how they lacked the luster of any intelligence.

You can see this when you look at the election map. Also, the woman who claimed to McCain that our presidential candidate was an Arab is a good example of McCain’s base. Or what was left of it after Palin entered the scene.

McCain would not have won if he had picked Ridge, Pawlenty or Romney, but it would have been a tougher fight.

Instead McCain listened to Karl Rove and Company choosing a fanatical right wing nut for a running mate and the GOP house of cards collapsed.

We witnessed first hand the Republicans who jumped ship after Palin was chosen.

I want to thank McCain for choosing Palin. She became the poster girl for extremism not to mention she is just plain stupid.

The GOP has a lot of work to do and with no one leading the party it will be years before they will regain the respect of the people.

We the people stood tall and said NO! Job well done.

I don’t know what I look forward to the most, the swearing in of a brilliant man who will lead this country out of the widerness, or watching Dubya get on that helicopter and wave goodbye.

By Jay Tarkoff

November 17, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Jay Bookman is the LAST PERSON on the planet who should talk about the sincerity of journalists.

By AmVet

November 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

With the ever growing avalanche of damning information regarding this worst administration and ideology in American history, one might conclude that given ten or twenty years, the neo-cons might just wise up and even man up.

But yesterday somebody printed a 20 year old quote from Rush Limberger and it, as much as anything I have ever read, perfectly proves how the now dwindling lunatic fringe refuses to be educated, will not change with the new realities of a modern world and have no desire to.

Our best course, is to write off the deadly screw ups and push ahead without them…

By getalife

November 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

As I watched Brown destroy the cons in debate in parliament, I saw the same failed ideology.

Free markets with no deregulation has failed and the cons in both countries will never admit this fact nor do they have a coherent plan to get out of this mess.

It is up to the Labour party and the Dem party to clean up this con’s mess. The cons will try to block it as usual and should be ignored like bill, the bloody con.

By Rickster

November 17, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Reference paragraph one, Bookman…you must hate yourself awfully bad since that describes you to a “T”.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 17, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

The wanton destruction of the Klinton enemy:

WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama’s advisers have begun reviewing former President Bill Clinton’s finances and activities to see whether they would preclude the appointment of his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, as secretary of state, Democrats close to the situation said Sunday.-NY Times

Joe the plumber and Bruno, two peas in a pod.

Be proud of your party, al-Gitmo.

By getalife

November 17, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

I don’t have a party Andy.

“Country first” and she would make a great President or any high level position.

By Sears Tower

November 17, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Jay Bookman has officially hit rock bottom. I guess with Bush out of office Jay has to go on the attack of other opinion columnist. Wow. I am so glad I canceled my subscription.

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

What say ya Jay, Any of these allegations about you this morning true?

Sounds like you are officially calling the kettle black.

(disclaimer) Mrs. G. nothing racial was meant in the calling kettle black remark. Apologies if I offended you, or may have semed racist to you.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

tcoach

PUH-LEASE….have you been playing without your helmet again? I did not call Duke a racist. (I was charmingly snarky tho…)

I don’t really see myself every worrying about how credible you think I am…remember I occasionally read your posts, credibility never seemed like an issue you have been concerned with!

By Abomi Nation

November 17, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

If the Citi spokesperson were a Conservative blogger, on why they just laid off 50,000……..

Well, we think Bill Ayers drove people away from our brand. Of course the liberal media shares a large portion of the blame, they didn’t even report that this whole financial mess is Obama’s fault. And the truth is the ACORN voters didn’t open up bank accounts like we had projected when we discovered we hadn’t gone after the cartoon character market. Unfortunately we have not issued any credit cards to all the new Daffy Ducks and Gigantor the Space Age Robots. But at least, thanks to the conservative blogger, we now know they exist, and we’ll market them more aggressively in the future.

By Bob P

November 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

You make a real good point in distinguishing between Kristol’s disingenuous writings to forward his beliefs vs. the more more honest writings he rarely produces.

But is that not true of just about all these hawkish writers? They’re too smart to be ignorant of the truth.

By mm

November 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

The howling of the wingnuts has reached a fever pitch and Obama hasn’t even taken office.

Funnier than watching Management play with his Tickle Me Gitmo doll.

By Pot & Kettle

November 17, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Jay, This is like the pot calling the kettle black. That’s the biggest problem with most columnists and the rags they write for. It’s hard to find any that don’t use it as a forum to espouse their own political views.

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G, You implied that he was being racist and even went as far to use the word racism. For you to now say you were only being snarky, is quite a joke, since you have went after people for being racist before. So how do you know those you deem as racist were not being snarky. I forgot that the great godzilla knows all and knows all’s intentions So what integrity issues have I ever had. I actually read the things I post about and when I have been wrong have been more than willing to admit, which is more than I can say for you or Bookman.

I must confess though. You claim you occasionally read my post, find that hard to believe since you did not even bother to read Obama’s book that you talk about. But I have not been reading your post. Ever since you decided to call another racist for a quote you have kinda became irrelevant to me. Sorry. I just do not have the time or energy to do anything but mess with those who have such a narrow view of the world.

So go ahead and insult me as only the great Godzilla can. But I, you and all who have been readers for a while know what type of a person you really are.

Have a great day and remember before you hurl an insult make sure the person is not quoting someone.

By Morningstar

November 17, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

By Mike November 17, 2008 11:02 AM You are all the same and the same scorn that you feel for them is the same scorn that anyone who isn’t a hyper-partisan liberal feels for you. Get a clue. Evaluate yourself and come to grips with who you are and what you are.

MIKE, and you? Are you able to evaluate situations from perspectives other than your own without being critical, obnoxious, nasty etc. etc.

I think Jay was trying to convey that journalists should not report what they “KNOW” is untruth. The truth should be reported, regardless of which political entity it offends or supports.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

mm….

tickle me gitmo

LOL

does it bleed when ya’ torture it?

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

tcoach

thanks for your correction.

now i can admit being wrong about you. the correction show you do care about credibility.

please accept my most humble apologies.

i sure didn’t want to hurt your feelings.

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

what correction is that?

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

tcoach

“”Mrs. G Are people who quote Obama still racist?”“

became

“Mrs. G yes you did, don’t lie to everyone admit to calling someone racist for quoting Obama.”

became

“Mrs. G, You implied that he was being racist and even went as far to use the word racism”

Any implication you felt was you dude…not me.

Again, thanks.

By @@

November 17, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Journalists should not be politicians.

Huh!!!!

So what’s your excuse jay?

~~~~~~~~~OO~~~~~~~~

Mrs. G:

I just picked this up from downstairs:

By: Mrs. Godzilla

I haven’t thought of the American auto industry as a good investment in the decades that I have had to choose a Japanese or German car in order to get better than average gas mileage and reliability.

The only part of the industry worth saving are the workers.

Have you ever seen the bumper stickers up in Michigan — “Support the American Worker — Buy American”?

I don’t support the auto-workers union because they’re both greedy and unreasonable in their demands.

But people like you can’t make a conscious decision to destroy their jobs by not buying the product they produce, and then expect ALL OF US to save the auto-workers.

That’s just dumb, Mrs. G.

By Joey

November 17, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

I had a little time during lunch to research. Looking for examples of Jay following his own directive.

On Oct. 30, Jay posted “Criticism of Palin, McCain also nails innocent.” This is likely were Jay discovered the basic idea to do this post on Sincerity.

Nov. 4 Jay posted “Fox, Fair and balanced and blue.”

On Nov. 13 Jay posted “Obama, Dems wrong on Labor vote.” His choir and many in Jay’s congregation congratulated him on his on honesty and fairness and sincerity. Finally turning a corner.

Exceptions prove the rule. “It is an act of disrespect toward their readers and toward their profession.”

By Morningstar

November 17, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

JAY, I know you (downstairs) wrote about Obama’s general statements regarding the AUTO INDUSTRY bailout.

This should concern everyone. I know there’s no ‘cut and dried’ answer, and, regardless of which road traveled, there will be problems. We need solutions that will benefit America and the American workforce. I’m talking PEOPLE here. Moms and Dads who are trying to educate their children, and put food on the table! I’m talking about children who have no one to care for them, and for the working poor and the elderly.

I’m at a loss here. I know we have radicals on both sides of the issue. Do SANE people exist out there, in the private sector or in government?

I believe the government should help; however, not without stipulations/mandates. We (the country) knew years ago that oil supplies would not last forever. We (the country, and the auto industry) knew smaller, more fuel efficient cars should be manufactured. Although it seems the crazies need bigger and bigger cars!!!! I’m not talking political parties here, I’m talking crazies!!!

NO! We don’t have an electric car that really works now! I agree that the Auto makers were unprofitable before the financial crunch!!! How long have we, the American people, been warned of the situation in which we are now involved?

I believe Jimmy Carter told us what would happen. Never mind ole Jimmy. We have to learn from the past, pull up our drawers, and ‘get crackin,’ to quote my Grandma.

If Paul is out there, would you please respond!!! Hey Paulie! Please respond with both sides (of which you are most capable) of the issue. I’ve most respect for you, although many times I disagree with you.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

@@

Are you blogging naked?

If not, please check the label on your clothing.

If your “ensemble” was made here and not in China, Korea, etc….then start the made in America lecture.

By @@

November 17, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G:

There’s a difference……..I’m not asking EVERYONE to bail out the American worker.

You are.

My work clothes (Sassy Scrubs) are made in America. My employer insists on it. They have a charitable program whereby they make and donate blankets from scraps for babies overseas.

Kewl, huh?

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G, Those are the things I wrote. I was not the only poster that day to call you on your vast error. I know you are not going to admit you did accuse someone of racism after they quoted Obama, but it did happen and all the posters here who saw you post it now KNOW you as the liar you are.

I am glad you feel that you can be a smart a** and bluff your way through anything you say.

It is fine, many of us have known you to be one to invoke racism when it clearly was not needed, much less justified.

Twist and spin the truth around until you are both dizzy. I could care less. This is possibly why you feel the need for lying instead of truth, it is your only path out. Short of saying I was wrong.

It is OK to be wrong every now and again you know. But hey keep doing what you are doing, seems to lead to a happy life. I know a lot of people who are happy that create an online personality known as Mrs. Godzilla, and have time to post, morning, noon and night.

Whenever you are ready we here in reality are willing to accept you with open arms.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

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I will always ask and offer help for the American worker. It feels so…American!

In fact it feels a whole lot more American to help the worker than the failed big investors. (Did you see where Paulson may not come back for the second 1/2 of the bailout…thinking about letting the next administration make the decisions?)

It is cool about the scrubs.

If you can get them in basic black, add pearls and you’re ready for dinner out!

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

tcoach

I forget - you still use republi-speak.

Soon to be one of the dead languages.

By @@

November 17, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G:

I will always ask and offer help for the American worker. It feels so…American!

But you won’t buy their cars?

I went to a Detroit news site where auto workers were blogging. By and large, they blame the American consumer for their downfall. One guy named Fuller said:

“For too long people have written about us thinking that they really know what is up in those factories when they really don’t. Most people would not be able to do my job for a day let alone week in and week out, month after month, year after year. They simply lack the fortitude and stamina to be able to handle it physically and mentally.”

“I ask you: Is it jealousy that a person who did not go to college gets those kind of wages? Just what is it that America has against the U.S. auto worker?”

Keep in mind it’s not conservatives who ridicule those without a college education. Again…..that would be those from the left.

Anyhoo, I thought Paulson’s plans were a disaster waiting to happen.

Too bad both parties (more so the dems) were all to eager to jump on board a run-away train. I wish the Republicans had let them go it alone. The dems had all the votes they needed but were afraid to accept the consequences on their own should the plan fail…..which it has.

By tcoach

November 17, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G, By Mrs. Godzilla

November 11, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Hey Duke….Is your first name David?

You sound just like ‘im.

So do you wanna rethink that didn’t call them racist.

This was your response to DUKE’s first of the day and you guessed it, he was quoting Obama’s book.

My how truth always bites liars.

So how does your bite feel?

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Oh my in Republi-speak…..

“You sound like him” means exactly “You are a racist”

Damn, I’ll have to be real careful if I ever state who you are starting to sound like.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 17, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

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My Japanese commuter-mobile was made in America.

I drove one just like it while working in Detroit a few years back….9 mile and Gratiot - great place for a coney.

By Pompano

November 17, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

of course you’d never have the guts to write something like this about your idiot fellow hack Cynthia McKinney - sorry Cynthia Tucker (get those two confused).

All of Jay’s pieces have the same “all white guys are racist but me” slant. Jay’s willing to look the other way though if it scores him Masters tickets.

By Observer

November 17, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

This is hilarious! I’ve been away from this blog for several weeks because I grew tired of Jay’s constant misrepresentations and out-of-context half truths. Today I tune back in to read Jay extolling the virtues of journalistic integrity. This is rich. I just can’t stop laughing.

Thanks Jay for putting a smile on my face. LOL!

By SaveOurRepublic

November 17, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

While he makes a few valid points, Bill Kristol is still a total Globalist shill. His father is Machiavellian, Trotskyite, Neocon “founder” Irving Kristol, so the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Like the many other phoney (Neo)”conservatives”, Bill Kristol is a pro-open borders/NAU, pro-“free” trade, pro foreign entanglements & “Empire Building” Globalist. He is NOT a true/real conservative like patriot Dr.Ron Paul.

By Soixante huitard

November 17, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

The skeptical side of me thinks of the wonderful scene in LA Confidential when James Cromwell’s corrupt police chief says to Kevin Spacey, who has just expressed an interest in showing integrity and getting at the truth of the matter:

“Don’t start trying to do the right thing, boy-o…You haven’t had the practice.”

This must be a perilous moment for Conservatives like Kristol. After all, they’re drunk from years of ‘making reality’, leaving it to liberals to interpret that reality. They have to face something they’d rather not face. But good for Kristol. At least he’s made a first step.

By Razmus

November 17, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Bookman, have you been drinking before lunch again? Don’t you realize that the person you describe in your comment is YOU. Observer, your are exactly right. Bookman’s World and it’s loyal little gang of blinded followers is to be taken in very small doses for fear of suffering an overdose of “Alice in Wonderland” syndrome.

By Danjonglee

November 17, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Let me guess before even reading it….Kristol is critical of conservatives, Bush, talk radio, capitalism….

By Soixante huitard

November 17, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Don’t you realize that the person you describe in your comment is YOU.

What’s with this chorus today? Sore losers, are we?

You guys are trapped in a hall of mirrors I think.

Nowhere does objectivity mean that you can’t lean towards or support a specific party or candidate and still do legitimate journalism.

The fact that you now whine because Jay doesn’t simply ape your views shows that it’s you who have a problem with honest journalism.

By Soixante huitard

November 17, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Bill Kristol is still a total Globalist shill. His father is Machiavellian, Trotskyite, Neocon “founder” Irving Kristol, so the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Precisely.

THIS is where the true battle is going to be fought.

By chaps

November 17, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

” I don’t have much regard for columnists who write and say things they know to be untrue just to score points or defend a position. “

FOMALOL. Oh, stop, I can’t stand laughing this hard. I can hardly see to type.What a howl. I can’t catch my breath…….

By Duke

November 17, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

I am a fundamentalist Christian (I believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God); and like Sarah Palin, our American founders, and the majority of the American people, at least until 50 years ago, I believe that God has a special purpose for America. George Bush is not my President. He has been a big spending, big-government, I-don’t-know-what-kind-of Republican. I don’t read Kristol. My sources are to the right of him, and have little respect for him. But frankly, Bookman, it is difficult for me to respect you, in the light of your refusal to report the alarming extent of Obama’s Marxist opinions and associations. I don’t which is worse- to be so dishonest to lie about it, or so incompetent you really do not know it.

By Duke

November 17, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

I am a fundamentalist Christian (I believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God); and like Sarah Palin, our American founders, and the majority of the American people, at least until 50 years ago, I believe that God has a special purpose for America. George Bush is not my President. He has been a big spending, big-government, I-don’t-know-what-kind-of Republican. I don’t read Kristol. My sources are to the right of him, and have little respect for him. But frankly, Bookman, it is difficult for me to respect you, in the light of your refusal to report the alarming extent of Obama’s Marxist opinions and associations. I don’t which is worse- to be so dishonest to lie about it, or so incompetent you really do not know it.

By yankee

November 17, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

How many names does Rush Limp blog under here?

By Bookman's a Joke

November 17, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Too bad no one cares about what you have to say, Jay.

You’re just extremely jealous because you’re stuck in a dead-end job, at a dead-end paper, and no one outside of this comment string sees or cares about what you think. And guess what? They’d only be wasting their time if they did.

Don’t give Bill Kristol lectures about journalistic integrity - you have none yourself. At least he’s actually a nationally recognized writer, unlike you, who isn’t even recognized in Atlanta…

By SOUTHERN ATL

November 17, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

GEORGIA SENATE RACE

JAY, You can’t let us go down like this…. For the last two weeks we have not heard much about how the race between JIM MARTIN and SAXBY CHAMBLISS stands as far as polling..….Are there any polls being conducted to see if the winner can take it all???

Until there is a WINNER in this mysterious race, I will continue with my prediction!!!

On December 2, 2008, the Congress in Washington D.C. will come to order… They will ask “SENATOR SAXBY CHAMBLISS” to stand…..speeches will be made…followed by applauses…and a song will be dedicated…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3YSHwJ_SAA&feature=related

Do you think that the train tickets are sold out to Georgia? Maybe there might be additional trains headed north to Alaska!!!

By Just Nasty & Mean

November 17, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

Bookman

Oh P-L-E-A-S-E!! I can’t believe you had the unmitigated gall to write this:

“Journalists should not be politicians.” —-Are you trying to tell me you aren’t a left wing biased hack?

“I don’t have much regard for columnists who write and say things they know to be untrue just to score points or defend a position.”

PLEASE don’t make me die laughing!! Get serious!!

By Mr. KnowItAll

November 17, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

Oh COME ON!! I don’t know whether to puke or laugh.

Let me hear you tell us all you didn’t intentionally lie and distort facts regarding the FairTax. If you did your homework as a journalist—you KNOW you did lie and distort facts in order to influence your readers.

Let me hear you tell us you didn’t intentionally lie and distort facts regarding the presidential campaign. You KNOW you were licking Obama’s pointed shoes for the last 12 months. Oh no?? Where was your demand for facts regarding Tony Rezco, Jeremiah Wright, Ayers, his ties and allegiances to “Frank”—his radical mentor, huge campaign contributions from Fannie Mae/Freddy Mac and his close associates that made millions there, his blanket lie about tax cuts for 95% of Americans (95% of Americans DON’T PAY TAXES). —

How about all those Obama billboards from paid supporters you allowed on your blog?

Just ADMIT it—you carried Obama’s water for the last year.

If you can’t see these traits in YOURSELF that you accuse Kristol of—-blindness doesn’t come CLOSE to describe your condition.

By Copyleft

November 18, 2008 7:29 AM | Link to this

You can see the knee-jerk spin at work from the losers of the far right. Bookman writes about columnists knowingly LYING, and everyone whines, “But you take liberal positions, and that means you’re dishonest too, you hypocrite!”

Nope. Liberal editorializing is not dishonesty. It’s Opinion, sure, but check out the section of the paper you’re reading. All the howling about “journalistic integrity” is a smokescreen to disguise one of two things:

Now, tell us again who’s dishonest?