Jay Bookman

By AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this

They want us gone.

They just gave us a three year extension of the agreement, the best Jay can come up with, in an effort to salvage some of the anti agreement AJC’s credibility is that they want us gone.

Yeah, just not anytime soon.

By "The Corporal"

November 16, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this

They want us gone. We want us gone

Jay

You forgot one. The terrorists want us gone.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Domestic energy production and alternative energy research must be a national priority. The president should limit the federal government’s role to supporting pure science and research and development of promising technologies rather than picking winners and losers with subsidies. Imagine what alternative energy technologies might already be available if the billions of dollars wasted on ethanol subsidies had instead been invested in research. -Urinal/DNC

Uh, you may want to check with Wonder Boy first:

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senator Barack Obama Friday voted in favor of the comprehensive energy bill, saying it will help Illinois and start America down the path to energy independence by doubling ethanol use, greatly increasing the availability of E85 ethanol pumps, and investing in combination plug-in hybrid and flexible-fuel vehicles, as well as clean-coal technology. However, he warned that bolder action is required if lawmakers are really serious about dealing with the high energy costs that are plaguing American consumers.

“This bill, while far from a solution, is a first step toward decreasing America’s dependence on foreign oil,” said Obama. “It requires that 7.5 billion gallons of ethanol be mixed with gasoline by 2012. That’s 7.5 billion gallons of fuel that will be grown in the corn fields of Illinois, and not imported from the deserts of the Middle East. The bill will also help triple the number of E85 ethanol fueling stations in the next year by providing a tax credit for their construction. This will help the millions of people who already drive flexible-fuel vehicles to fill their tanks with fuel made from 85 percent ethanol that is 50 cents cheaper than regular gasoline.”

“I am also pleased that the bill includes funding I requested for research into combination plug-in hybrid and flexible fuel vehicles that could travel up to 500 miles per gallon of gasoline, as well as more investment into clean-coal technology.”

The Energy bill will do the following:

Create a Renewable Fuels Standard that will nearly double the amount of ethanol used by 2012.

Provide up to a $30,000 tax credit for the construction of E85 ethanol fueling stations.

Provide a $1.8 billion tax credit for investments in clean-coal facilities.

Provide $85 million to Southern Illinois University, Purdue University, and the University of Kentucky for research and testing on developing Illinois basin coal into transportation fuels.

Provide $40 million for research on combined plug-in hybrid and E85 flexible fuel vehicles that have the potential to drive 500 miles per gallon of gasoline used.

Provide incentives to promote biofuels from agricultural resources.-Oblahmi.Com

So Wonder Boy’s first shot at “reducing dependence on foreign oil” was nothing but an exercise of throwing billions upon billions of tax dollars into the garbage for no reason whatsoever?

And you wonder why the stock market is crashing?

By AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

Meanwhile, what the majority of We The People want to do because they know it is the right approach, well, the environmental terrorists have other ideas-

The “drill, baby, drill” shoutout heard at Republican campaign rallies during the campaign was a short-sighted, oversimplified reaction to high gas prices and other energy issues. Obama has wisely concluded that expanded drilling on the continent —- including on some public lands —- needs to be considered, but it is just one part of what should be a more comprehensive approach to energy independence. But there is a pressing issue that needs to be dealt with first. The Bush administration’s Bureau of Land Management has targeted 360,000 acres of public land in Utah for oil and gas drilling —- much of it in highly sensitive areas that deserve protection. The new administration should slow down the bureau’s plans and start the discussion about a more comprehensive approach.-Urinal/Jihad

You thought 4 dollar a gallon gasoline was bad?

Wait till you see what the libs got in store for you.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Here’s something for all of you fools that believed the BS coming from the Oblahmi kkkampaign that we would “come together as one.”

Got paranoia, cartoon boy?

By What is your favorite reason for invading Iraq

November 16, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

There are so many to choose from. I just don’t know where to start. I’ll give it a try though. Here goes,

• The Bush Administration had spent all this money on a Mission Accomplished banner and they needed a good use for it in order to justify the expense,

• Milton Bradley mistakenly printed up a deck of playing cards that no one would buy and so they turned to the Bush Administration to create a market for them,

• Saddam refused to pay Rumsfeld royalties for all those photos of the two of them all buddy-buddy,

• Bush wanted to give the terrorists a place that they could call home,

• Bush did not want the terrorist’s to call Iraq home,

• Cheney felt a need to “liberate” someone, I mean Really Liberate someone, after he found out about his daughter,

• The once mighty US military wanted to shock and awe Bush and Rumsfeld into approving a bigger budget — 5000 pounds at a time if need be. We call this one our bunker buster but put on these special glasses first,

• Oil, what oil….

• WMDs, what WMDs….

• Yellow cake, what yellow cake….

• Mobile labs, what mobile labs….

• Proof of US involvement, what proof of US involvement….

By AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

While we are on the subject of Webster’s dictionary, go ahead on and look up the meaning of “anarchy-“

Gay rights supporters waving rainbow colors marched, chanted and danced in cities coast to coast Saturday to protest the California vote that banned gay marriage there.

At the Georgia Capitol, more than 1,500 opponents of California’s Proposition 8 crowded the plaza and steps, spilling onto Washington Street.-Urinal/Sicko

So I take it that you libs won’t have no issues with us starting a recall Obama from the presidency drive to overturn the will of the people?

Be careful what you wish for.

By GodHatesTrash

November 16, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

What decent folks like me are thankful for today

Amen to that.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

What do you know, Bruno and Joe the plumber are now victims of the same hate machine:

Conflicts could hurt Clinton- Former president’s activities put post for wife at risk. During her own White House campaign, the New York senator criticized China for its crackdown on protesters in Tibet. Her campaign was embarrassed by reports that her husband’s foundation had raised money from a Chinese Internet company that posted an online government “Most Wanted” notice seeking information on Tibetan human rights activists who may have been involved in the protests.-Urinal/Oblahmi Kampaign

Check it out, he picked her, same as he approached the plumber.

This was done on purpose, by the way, Oblahmi knows that after his total failure of a first term, Bruno will be his main opposition, so why not go ahead and start trashing her now?

It isn’t like her supporters are naive or anything.

Right, al-Gitmo?

By GodHatesTrash

November 16, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

So the misanthropes are going to start a recall petition - how cute is that?

By GodHatesTrash

November 16, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

I think Joe the Plumber is a victim of his own simple-minded hypocrisy, sleaziness, and laziness.

Let’s face it, on his best day, he’s a moron.

By Mike

November 16, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

What happened to Bookman’s no name calling rule?

I guess he had to abandon it when he realized that most of his hateful partisan followers are incapable of posting without base name calling. (See GodHatesTrash). Rather than lose the precious small audience of “click” generators, Bookman abandoned his call for civility and his morals.

Nice to see that Bookman is as consistent with his rules as he is with everything else he says.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 16, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

I know it’s mean, but let’s play with the 25%

By Taxpayer

November 16, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Careful, Mrs. Godzilla. You know how sensitive some of these Republicans can be when confronted with the truth. If you go and make fun of them for being afraid, there’s just no telling what they might do. Some of them will go so far as to call you names and do a virtual rant. It could get really nasty. They could even get Mad as Zell. Have you ever seen Zell when he gets mad. It’s sort of like Joe Lieberman when he’s happy.

By Chad Harris

November 16, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

There will not be any significant “gone” by 2011 despite Obama’s campaign promises.

We will have a significant troop presence, and so far Obama has indicated he’s not going after any of the contractors who are continuing to murder people in Iraq.

By TN Gelding

November 16, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

The terrorists don’t want us gone.

They want to continue killing and maiming our troops. After all, that’s the only reason they’re there. Once gone, they can no longer use that presence as a recruiting tool and portray us as the Great Satan for having troops in a Muslim country.

The war president.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 16, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

[Okay, little Buckaroo, there’s nothing to be a’scared of.]

By TN Gelding

November 16, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Certainly a step in the right direction.

If you could ignore the deaths and destruction the progress would be encouraging. And then there’s always the concern about what happens once we leave, not to mention the millions of refugees.

By getalife

November 16, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

She turned him down Andy.

We can’t afford to stay in Iraq or Afghanistan.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 16, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Contractor’s?

We don’t need no stinking contractors.

WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 (UPI) — U.S. prosecutors are investigating claims that security firm Blackwater sent banned weapons to Iraq inside bags of dog food, ABC News reported Friday.

I trust President Elect Obama has read all that is available on the situation with contractors, probably got an expert or two on his staff. The good guys will get the bad guys.

Juan Cole has a multilinked piece titled:

“Al-Maliki Backs Security Pact; Muqtada Calls for ‘Universal Demonstration’, Threatens Guerrilla Strikes; Sistani Warns he May Intervene;”

Excellent coffee and danish reading.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Gotta’ try that one again.

Okay, little Buckaroo, there’s nothing to be a’scared of.

By GodHatesTrash

November 16, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Bookman’s blog rules change from day to day (especially for me), but my current interpretation is that I cannot call other bloggers names directly, which I haven’t.

Obviously, blanket aspersions and denigrations of whole groups of people are fine, else none of the rightwingnut regulars’ posts would ever be seen.

Joe the Unlicensed Plumber and Former Welfare Recipient is a public figure, so I should be allowed more latitude in comments about him.

Let’s face it, Joe’s no rocket scientist. He claims he’s going to buy a business where he can clear $250K on his $30-something K income, so he is financially completely naive. And his moronic blatherings on world and national politics have embarrassed even the clowns at Fox, who are normally beyond embarrassment.

I stand by my original comments on Mr. Joe.

However, if you are one of the many Americans who identify with this bumpkin yahoo, I do feel sorry for you.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 16, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Through the GOP Looking Glass

By AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

By TN Gelding November 16, 2008 9:55 AM The terrorists don’t want us gone. They want to continue killing and maiming our troops. After all, that’s the only reason they’re there. Once gone, they can no longer use that presence as a recruiting tool and portray us as the Great Satan for having troops in a Muslim country.

Horsey: Hey, how you reckon the terrorists are portraying the 400,000 fellow countrymen that are in the Iraqi Security Force as the “Great Satan?”

That’s a lot of little devils, ain’t it?

~~~~~

By getalife November 16, 2008 10:21 AM She turned him down Andy.

al-Gitmo: Pardon me for not being down with the latest lib talking points but my original point remains unanswered; why is the pinko media/Oblahmi kampaign trashing Bruno and her “husband” this morning?

Whatever scheme they thought up, it sure has worked on you.

GFT (good for them.)

By TN Gelding

November 16, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

November 16, 2008 11:26 AM

The terrorists are from outside the country.

And will leave once we do. What a novel idea. Iraqis manning the Iraqi army.

All things considered, I’d rather be buying oil for Saddam for 40 euros a barrel.

By RW-(the original)

November 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

That’s the deadline for departure, meaning it can be accelerated if conditions allow or require

Jay B,

It sounds more like a goal than a deadline. I suspect the reverse is also true and it could just as easily be extended if conditions warrant.

By getalife

November 16, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

LOL Andy.

The latest from the lib media:

“Kissinger Praises Clinton As Secretary Of State: “Outstanding”

Better?

LSU came back with 30 to win.

By Chad Harris

November 16, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

There hasn’t been a whit of concern about the millions of refugees and large percentage of those who have lost the husband in the family to explosions by this country to date.

Blackwater and the rest of the similar companies is expanding its presence and its beyond good and evil milieu and is thriving. 6 of them may or may not be indicted in the coming weeks, but it will be a gnat on a freight train.

Obama so far has indicated he thinks we do need those particular stinking contractors because he hasn’t lifted a finger to indicate he would stop them.

Blackwater has found a novel use for dog food. It uses them to hide M-4 assault weapons and silencers it was forbidden to ship.

Blackwater was on the streets of New Orleans weilding M-4s during Katrina. They made it there a lot faster than FEMA who hasn’t been efficient there yet.

By @@

November 16, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G:

You’re posting yesterday’s news, as is jay in his column today:

Sistani Warns he May Intervene;”

Today’s news:

In a crucial development, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the most influential Shiite cleric in Iraq, indicated on Saturday that he would support whatever decision is arrived at in Parliament as representative of the will of the Iraqi people. Shiite officials who met with the ayatollah said he found the latest draft acceptable, if not perfect; Ayatollah Sistani also made clear that he did not side with politicians who refused any agreement with the United States out of hand.

Mr Maliki has been trying to build support for the amended pact and the main Shia and Kurdish alliances in parliament have recently agreed to back it.

He also appears to have persuaded the country’s most senior Shia cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, not to oppose it publicly.

The cleric is highly influential in Iraq’s Shia community. Any public criticism of the pact by him would probably have stopped it winning parliamentary approval, our correspondent says.

By TW

November 16, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

As a result of the Sunni being cut from the American payroll, the bombings have picked back up.

We are in the same position as before the ‘surge,’ for the crux of the ‘surge’ was this monetary allowance. Having this cut returns us to the age old battle of Sunni v. Shiite. Sadly, the assumption that the ‘surge’ has fixed this is from the same ignorant page that gave us ‘we will be treated as liberators.’ Before this gets better, these two groups will be getting it on - so says history.

Leaving our soldiers there to referee this thing, as though they will be able to solve this militarily, is the height of political arrogance.

Georgia boys don’t need to be spilling their blood for poltical mistakes - Washington’s or Iraq’s.

By @@

November 16, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

TW:

So which body count are you going with in the recent bus bombing — the anonymous source or the hospital?

NPR: The source, who insists on remaining anonymous because he’s not officially authorized to release casualty figures, put the death toll at at least 28.

But the police casualty figures aren’t supported by reports from local hospitals.

Doctor Ziyad Tariq Abbas is the chief surgeon at al-Nu’man hospital, which is closest to the blast site. “We received around 12 injured people, all of them are male,” he said. “One of them was dead and one was severely injured in the head area.”

Doctor Abbas says that all the patients were suffering from shock and that none was able to give a clear description of what had happened during the attack.

A spokesman for Baghdad’s Medical City complex, which is also close to the scene of the attack, said his hospital received only one dead body and treated seven wounded people.

By Greg Mendel

November 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

When the invasion of Iraq turned into an uncontrollable civil war, there was suddenly a brief , belated soul-search about responsibility for such an disastrous action. But, just as quickly, the question of accountability was dismissed with the notion that finding a way out was a more urgent priority.

The “Surge” and its semi-success has been grasped by war fans as some kind of redemption for the invasion. It’s not. The Surge was a tactic with limited military/political goals. But it couldn’t undo the incredible devastation inflicted on that country as a result of Bush’s bloodthirsty determination to turn Iraq into a New England township with oil reserves. (The Vietnam quote “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” comes to mind.)

The unpleasant fact is that Iraq is fundamentally a group of antagonistic tribes that lacks national cohesion. Saddam was the ruthless glue that held it together. When we leave, the Iraqis will get back to the bloodbath, resulting in a Shia state that will reverse social progress made under Saddam and become a partner with Iran.

We’ll never get back to the accountability question. The answer is too shameful. An immature president was manipulated by his vice president and a band of neocons (who have fled in the night). That president was aided and abetted by a congress intimidated by a post-9/11 bloodlust using freedom and democracy as an excuse for violence.

During the Cold War, countries such as today’s Iraq would be called “puppets” and its leaders “stooges.” That was the case with Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation.

Something that is misunderstood about the Afghan insurgency against the USSR is that the Afghans were not fighting for freedom. They fought the “puppet” government because it was pushing social progress (such as limited rights for women) that offended the Islamic fundamental religious practices — i.e., what became the Taliban.

By GodHatesTrash

November 16, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Excellent analysis, Mr. Mendel.

The Iraqis were not “Shocked or Awed” by our fireworks display in 2003. They were, however, royally pis-sed off and outraged, like most decent people would be when they are invaded for no good reason.

The last five years the US has reaped the devastating whirlwind, dead Americans, dead innocents, billions of dollars wasted, our military leadership a laughingstock, our international reputation reduced to angry petulant paranoid bully.

Truly a quagmire.

By Chad Harris

November 16, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

One nice piece of symmetry is after making a clusterf*ck of foreign relations and wasting 5000 American lives and growing, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and growing with ho hum to American draft dodgers like Suxby Chumpass a few explosion killing hundreds of Iraqis every couple months a day, after shredding the conswtitution and issuing Executive Orders that can take years to reverse, Bushco has hemorrhaged money directly from your pocket with the billions of unsupervised “bailouts/handouts”

It’s hard to tell which was worse the billions thrown away in Iraq paying people who hate Bush’s guts not to attack so that the idiots can artificially say “the surge is working” or we’re winning” (the streets are littered with their dead butts in elections after Nov. 4—people like McLoser and Sarah Moron Supreme or the billions stolen from your pocket. The Big 3 auto companies have been a failure and clearly they hung themselves—let ‘em go.

Let the efficient modern scientific auto makers reign supreme.

By Chad Harris

November 16, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Music to my ears:

From the Keep on Keepin’ On Collection—this tone and meme insures that the Rethugs will be crushed in 2012 and many cycles beyond: (the dawg done et mah homework mommy!

From Blue Texan:

The thing I find so heartening after the GOP’s latest electoral humiliation is they still have no freaking clue why they keep losing elections. Check out Newt and Bobby on “Face the Nation” this morning.

Jindal begins by pinning their losses on “out of control spending.” Really? If Bush’s record deficits produced universal healthcare, an upgraded infrastructure, won both wars, addressed the energy crisis, and improved most people in the middle’s finances, does anyone seriously think the Republicans would be getting their asses handed to them? Didn’t think so.

It was also great to hear Gingrich call Palin “a real asset to the Republican party” even though all objective polling indicates otherwise.

But the highlight is watching these two Blame Bush For Everything, as though Bush didn’t faithfully execute every right-wing policy he could get his hands on over the past 8 years. Now that their tax cuts-and-invasions-fix-everything mantra has been exposed as a disaster, they’ve got no choice but to just fob the whole mess off on W’s incompetence.

And of course, Obama won because he’s a “Reaganite.”

Just too good.