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U.S. Rep. Paul Broun, R-Crazy
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A Georgia congressman, Paul Broun of Athens, has accused Barack Obama of being a Marxist with secret plans to take over the country, abolish all rights and rule as dictator just as Hitler did.
That’s a U.S. congressman, yes. From Georgia.
Broun might as well have claimed that he had been abducted by aliens and appointed queen of their planet Bogusia. It’s a claim with just as much basis in fact as what he actually said, and it probably wouldn’t have done more damage to what remained of Broun’s credibility.
I don’t doubt for a moment that Broun feels threatened by the prospect of Obama in the White House. But he can’t admit the real reasons for that feeling, probably even to himself, so he resorts to fantasy as a way to express it.
Sane people all over the country are snickering at Broun, as they should be. He is the point at which the lunatic fringe and Republican officeholders intersect.
Here’s his direct quote:
“It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s the one who proposed this national security force. I’m just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism. That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did. When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”




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Comments
By PinkoNeoConLibertarian
November 11, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Personally I think he must be related to Cynthia McKinney. Either that or they have the same shrink.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
What Mr Broun doesn’t get is that President Obama is not planning some Groucho Marxist take over….. He’s just going to raise the bar in government service so folks like Broun will appear even more obviously dense.
Oops! Already done!
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
I was just chastized for bringing this up downstairs, but like I said earlier, aren’t we over this?
Can’t our representatives just for once look like normal people instead of rabid wingnuts?
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
What is it with the Georgia’s elected representatives?
First the seemingly bigoted Lynn Westmoreland calls Obama uppity.
Now it’s the UGA’s new favorite son, the disgraceful Paul Broun, calling Obama fascist-like. (His claim to fame? Authoring the Military Pornography Act!)
Throw in the disreputable and cowardly Saxby and what a trifecta!
Even for a state that has given the US some of the biggest, most derided loons EVER to work in Washington DC, the embarrassing nut parade continues unabated.
By Road Scholar
November 11, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
All Americans should hold its government responsible and review its policies and actions. Transparency of our government ensures that it is for the people, by the people, etc., something that did not happen under Shrub.
But Broun’s conjecture is ridiculous. Keep in mind he represents the CD around Athens! As we sing “the cesspool of the South!” A mind is a terrible thing to waste!
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Mr. Broun represents the point at which the lunatic fringe and Republican officeholders intersect.
Bingo! Nicely put, Jay.
Actually, if Mr. Broun can’t admit it to himself what dark paranoid fantasies are underlying these statements, our friend Mr. Field Dresser over on one of the other threads doesn’t seem to be so encumbered, with his vile and racist statement about Obama’s ‘people’ being the same as those detained at Guantanamo. (Not to say that Broun is no better than this. That’s the point, he’s apparently too decent a man to allow himself to have the thought consciously, which the vilest elements of the rabble have no problem at all doing.)
There’s never been a thinner line separating the lunatic fringe and the actual party leaders as there is today on the Right wing.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
Yes, I agree. I think one good thing to come out of this election is that we are all tired of party bickering, and some, like Broun, just weren’t paying attention.
Bush, et. al. rose such a cloud of paranoia over our nation, and it was seen even in the election with Palin talking about real Americans, etc. that it’s still out there, but thankfully, it is on the way out.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 11, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
If some one who denigrates the agenda of the high lord of socialism is a “lunatic,” then I am proud to be a “lunatic:”
“It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s the one who proposed this national security force,” Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. “I’m just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism.”
“That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” Broun said. “When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”
Oblahma said it, not Broun.
Notice how kookman does not include the words of the man in his attack column, he just let’s the reader trust his “judgment?”
By Leni
November 11, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Collectivism is slavery. Criminalization of speech is Orwellian. Totalitarianism , no matter what it is called, is totalitarianism
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Andy we can all see that you are very proud.
very, very, very proud
certifiably proud
committed proud
By scrappy
November 11, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management: You conviently forgot to read a little further:
spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure — an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.
Isn’t strong national security something we should all want? You really are a lunatic.
By getalife
November 11, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Typical wingnut sore loser making GA proud.
Geez.
By BDatlanta
November 11, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
So, GOP’ers, how about all those new Executive powers the Bush admin tacked on…..hehehe. Scary, isn’t it??
One thing is true, President-Elect Obama has some swagger. He/his team let slip that he will be closing Gitmo just before arriving at the White House.
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
But he can’t admit the real reasons for that feeling, probably even to himself, so he resorts to fantasy as a way to express it.
Jay,
Are you claiming that Broun is simply a racist? Why not just say it?
If the account in the AJC is accurate then what he said barely resembles what you have him saying and it’s also chilling that a newsman would be so quick to play the race card over a criticism of proposals that have indeed been voiced by the President-elect.
I’m not exactly thrilled over the idea of a national security force as powerful and well funded as the military either and spreading the wealth around is certainly a Marxist principle. Of course it really means spreading the poverty around.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
The philosopher Chesterton has a great explanation of how difficult it is to convince a person who is mentally deranged of the error of his delusions.
It’s scary in fact, how difficult it is. Just try getting someone who’s convinced that there are people out to do him in that those little slights others commit against him and those odd glances others throw at him are not part of a plot to send rays down from the sun to eat his brain. It’s virtually impossible to do because paranoia is impossible to disprove empirically.
By DWalla
November 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
“Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.” - Alexis de Tocqueville
By Andy
November 11, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
This article is twisting what Broun said. It is people in the news media like Jay Bookman that are lunatics. Broun’s point was that Obama’s plan sets a dangerous precedent and there are simularities to how Hitler formed the Gestapo. Mr. Bookman you need to get off the Obama Kool-Aid and report the facts.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Here some data on Broun….
By Swampy
November 11, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Broun is nuts and a real a_ _ hole. Dosen’t he know that Buish and Chaney tried to be dictators by taking away our freedoms, condoning torture, and having illegal wiretaps. They should both be tried for treason.
By GOP is gone
November 11, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
I think Rep Broun is the love child of Hitler and Eva Broun smuggled out of the bunker by a secretly Jewish nanny and raised here in Georgia by foster parents in the Arian Nation Group. He wants to over through the regime that brought down his daddy just like Bush.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
RW: Are you claiming that Broun is simply a racist? Why not just say it?
No, RW, he’s not saying he’s racist (though one can’t rule it out, either). He’s saying the man with his ludicrous statements that he is unable to resist yielding to irrational thoughts that border on the clinically paranoid.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
I just loved all the gestapo built bridges in Germany.
Those SS troopers - really had an eye for design.
I understand Mengele himself will be doing an HGTV special:
Nazi Infrastructure Design on a Dime
Paranoids “R” funny.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
My how the tables have turned.
For years, many of us on the left compared Bush’s activities to those of Hitler, and now this guy has switched the tide and comparing Obama to Hitler.
This is just bizarre.
By scrappy
November 11, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
I agree with Swampy - everyone so quickly forgets the freedoms taken away from us already by the Bush admin, but are so scared by Obama. (warrent-less raids sound pretty similiar to the Gestapo too)
I hope Obama gives us those freedoms back and reverses Bush’s plans.
By gadem
November 11, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Pulled————-
Gadem, one warning.
By Jerr
November 11, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Rep Broun is NOT ‘crazy’ —- Jay Bookman IS not only ‘crazy’ but extremely stupid if he thinks Hussein Obama is not intending to becomae a ‘dictator’.
By BDatlanta
November 11, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Swampy @ 10:11, I completely agree.
Mrs G with the “push the paranoia” posts. Fun stuff. The faster we get the wingnuts to freak out, the sooner we can put them in straight-jackets and institutions.
By you
November 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
If you look at Obamas background,freinds and his own comments what he is saying isn’t so far out.It deserves a good hard look.It may be a harmless thing with good intent but we would be foolish to not keep our eyes wide open.
By Joe
November 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
I don’t think you were old enough to hear or see what happened in Germany back in the late 30’s. I was but fortunately wasn’t there. Those German people litterally bowed down to Hitler. Towards the end, those same people that thought great things Hitler would do, were gathering to find ways to get rid of him.
OK MR. Jay, If Obama turns out like Hitler did, will you be one of those who gather to get rid of him?
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Soixante huitard,
Had Broun actually said what was represented here you might have a point, but when one has to change a man’s words to then call him either/both clinically paranoid or/and a racist then the dynamic changes considerably as to who feels rightfully or wrongfully threatened.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
By scrappy November 11, 2008 9:53 AM AJC/DNC Management: You conviently forgot to read a little further: an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.
1) Ever since the election last week I’ve been writing about what a sorry state the Republican party is currently in and that it will get even worse if we do not boot these “moderates” and “compassionate Conservatives” out on their as-ses.
So now scrappy, ignoring all of that, throws the ideas of a man responsible for the largest expansion of government in history at me.
Are you liberals even capable of independent thought?
2) Oh, so now Oblahma is adopting the failed policies of the Bush administration, eh?
Run along, junior.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Obama Planning to become a dictator
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G @ 10:16 -
You are funny.
By John
November 11, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
After watching a video of Obama supporters waving the Soviet flag in front of the White House after Obama’s win, who wouldn’t be concerned? I would characterize Paul Broun as a true Patriot. God bless Paul Broun and God help our country!
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
you, great comment. It is never wrong to question, or even imagine what one will do. However there are those who believe Obama can not possibly do any wrong. Therefore we are all to sit like sheep and agree, or be called racist, or crazy, lunatic or anything else some may choose to call us. We are lunatics for questioning our president.
You do all know Hitler was looked at as a liberator, and a man of the people.
I hope we are not looked back on as being as blind and ignorant as the Germans are, but it looks like we could be.
By Mark
November 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
The man is not at all crazy. The writer and editors who know nothing about history worry me.
By bh
November 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Broun certainly comes off sounding like a paranoid idiot and far too irresponsible to be holding public office. But another, even uglier possibility, is that he knows he’s lying, but is using scare tactics to appeal to the dwindling Rep. base in his district. The Athens area looks bluer that ever on the voter map.
By Swami Dave
November 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
With which comparisons are you holding offense? A national security force (essentially national “police”) or gun control measures (“…clinging to God and Guns with antipathy to those not like them….”)??
Both were actions taken by both the Nazis in Germany and Stalinists in Russia.
Surprisingly, neither of the -policies- and comments on them had anything to do with race which seems to be the insinuation. Is this to be the future of the next (hopefully only) four years that any opposition to policy is cast as “racism” or secondary to some unspoken, internal malicious intent?
Does the president-elect desire to be a dictator? Unlikely. However, those policies are historically two that have been taken by every dictator in their ascent to power. I suppose that when we start hearing the Obama administration discussing the 2nd amendment in terms of “firearms useful for hunting”, then we may see another progression.
Likewise, since I have never met the guy & my only exposure to him has been in the midst of what was a largely staged campaign (made up of buzzwords, focus-grouped language, & poli-speak), I do not know his true intentions. Neither does Representative Broun or anyone who is now critical of his statements.
All we have is what he has said & what he (upon taking office) begins to do. With his already promised plans to steal from earners to fund transfer payments to those who don’t (aka “spreading the wealth”), there is already reason to be wary if you value freedom and opportunity.
-Swami Dave
By PaulG
November 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Who voted for this guy? Shame on you! I’m not in his district or I’d be sure he would be out next election. Georgia allows for Recall elections someone in the 10th should get started NOW this man is an embarrassment to the entire state and a threat to potential investment in Athens and Savannah as well as the rest of Georgia.
By Mark
November 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
The man is not at all crazy. The writer and editors who know nothing about history worry me.
By notawingnut
November 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Check back in 2 years and see if he was right. Do this without branding Broun before you see what really happens.
I fear for my country and in spite of all the programmed posters here spouting the party line, you might be in for a shock if Broun is correct. The pattern is clear that the party speak posters are the first to come to post on a story that is counter to the new administration. Alter the public perception fast and do it over and over again to plant the seed of doubt against a guy like Broun.Keep up the good work Broun.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Bosch
Life is way too short to spend it as a paranoid, knuckle dragging, brooding, unhappy scaredy cat.
Sunday while shopping for tile….Joe dropped my cell phone into my icey cold Dr. Pepper. He swears he wasn’t making long distance calls…..
It might have made some mad…..It is inconvenient….but it was pretty damn funny.
By ellie
November 11, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
I could not have said it better. Thank you.
By blowfly
November 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
The failure of the PRESS to report this video of Obama talking about a “domestic army” is the shameful thing. It’s not crazy to worry about ANY leader talking about “domestic armies’ and having friends who write books about “re-educating” capitalists and, if that doesn’t work, “terminating” them, to the tune of 25 million people. Those of you who don’t want EVERY leader to be policed and kept an eye on are the crazy ones. Read some history. You will lose us all our liberty.
By sallyards
November 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Representative Paul Broun is not alone in his warning about the potential dangers of a socialist, Marxist dictatorship. I suggest you read “Commuist Party ecstatic over ‘08 election results,” in www.wnd.com/index.php for additional details about Obama’s life and training. I am presently adding Chapter 19, “The Tragedy of 2008,” to Economics 101 for Senators and Representatives. The closing sentence reads, “Woe to American taxpayers and to American families and children.” Four nonpartisan, nonprofit groups - Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), National Taxpayers Union (NTU), Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW), and Taxpayers for Common Sense (TCS) - gave Representative Broun a score of 99 as a friend to taxpayers in the 110th Congress First Session (2007).
By Latch
November 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Mr. Broun
Folks may say you are crazy but, you are not by no means and you are not alone in your cause. With a Democratic majority, you have the toughest job in trying to sway the majority into believing your issues. You do have supporters, more than you can imagine. We don’t have a person with money, clout or icon status who will take on Obama and his 4th Reich. We need more Reps like you who have the means to stand up and be heard….at least for now. Keep up the hard work and may God show his mercy on you when all hell breaks loose.
By mel
November 11, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
This guy seems to only vote on military, gun and church issues. Doesn’t seem to care about anything related to regular folks. With such a narrow viewpoint, no wonder he’s scared of Obama because he may actually have to do something for the “little” people.
By John
November 11, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
After watching a video of Obama supporters waving the Soviet flag in front of the White House after Obama’s win, who wouldn’t be concerned? I would characterize Paul Broun as a true Patriot. God bless Paul Broun and God help our country!
By RW-(the original)
November 11, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
PaulG @ 10:32,
This should answer your question
60.7% to 39.3%. Pretty impressive!
By Pat
November 11, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Man I was thinking to move to GA, but after reading this, don’t think I will now. Paul Broun is a congressman!!!!! eeek! This is the result of Mccain/Palin campaign, these are your children. Never heard so much crap in my life. I hope we keep guns way away from Paul Broun, I think he just revoked his permits. Man is sick and can’t read a lick.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
sallyards
glad you took advantage of my link
did you count all the zeros he got too?
maybe kids and education and health care are less important to you than your tax bill….
Why does a muskrat guard his musk? In the misty mist of the dusky dusk?
Courage.
Try some. It feels soooooo good.
By leni
November 11, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Woodstock demonstrated that you can herd a crowd of people on to a muddy field, keep them fenced in there for several days under grossly unsanitary conditions , and they will not protest because you have found the “vibe” that makes them feel special.
By Yer Kiddin' Right?
November 11, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
And this redneck looney is a medical doctor?
I mean this in all sincerity…
GOD HELP US ALL!!
By Pete
November 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
I completely agree with Broun’s comments. Every president must be watched and the power of the president should be extremely limited. Any expansion of the office should cause concern among all Americans.
By tim
November 11, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
To quote Mr. Broun, “It may sound a bit crazy and off base..” Need we say anymore?
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Bet some Jewish people and others in Germany around the 1920’s and 30’s had spoken out. Because those aliens turned out to be real. Bet some of those souls would have loved it if anyone in the government would have said anything.
But you are right Bookman we should all just salute and smile to Obama, no matter what he does.
By reebok
November 11, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
We never run out of politicians to embarrass us here. But we can right one wrong by voting Saxby Chambliss out of office in December. It won’t give Max Cleland his career back, but it will at least get rid of one of our more egregiously embarrassing hacks.
By blowflye
November 11, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
God help us all is right! if McCain had said this the press would have been reporting it 24/7, and all of you who are calling Broun crazy would be on the other side. What a bunch of hypocrites! Until we want equal treatment for ALL politicans, they will use this hypocrisy to divide us. It’s us against the POLITICIANS, you idiots, don’t you get it from the last administration? The Democrat congress with Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, who engineered the mortgage problems, and Bush, who agreed to massive spending bills. But here you are, ready to kiss another politician’s a* like he’s God. I wish you could get what you deserve without me also getting what I DON’T deserve.
By RealityKing
November 11, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
No, Obama is not Hitler, even if his “spread the wealth” message is from the same Marxist’s tenets.
But the liberal fringe and progressively corrupt MSM certainly have shown themselves good representatives of Hitler’s enablers. They have more than proven their willingness to hide, misrepresent, minimize, not cover and/or out right lie about everything anti progressive. These people would stifle free speech with dubiously called “fairness doctrines”. And as this election has proven beyond any reasonable doubt, these loons are more than willing to surk their responsibility to the public’s right to know.., just like Hitler’s enablers did.
By Marcus
November 11, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
All of you Obama people are living in a fantasy world. He isn’t going to do 1/4 of the things that he has promised and he is already making a mockery of himself.
Yesterday he told his staff what he and President Bush…yes he is STILL the PRESIDENT…talked about in their PRIVATE meeting. Have a little respect for your President and tradition Mr. Obama.
By corona
November 11, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
You obviosly live in a world of complacency. NO ONE should ever give blinde trust to a president. I never trust any politician. And yes Obama did say he wanted to establish a national security force. Why?? We already have a police force, we already have the national guard (which I am a member of). All I’m saying is everyone needs to stop having an orgasm over obama. He IS NOT the second coming…..just another politician.
By aprilnovember811
November 11, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Hitlers followers as well as Jim Jones followers were as misguided as many of you sound. All of you keep this in mind, we had an American Revolution to escape British Rule, (yes one of those terrible wars you all hate so much), and we will have another to squash tyranny if we have to too. Obama’s aide yesterday said he is ready to “rule?”. Someone needs to tell that loser we don’t rule in this country, the President is supposed to carry out the will of the people not the other way around.
By S Cullison
November 11, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
The truth is that Obama does intend to do exactly as Paul Broun has said. He and his security force around him have already demonstrated exactly this type of behavior during the campaign. Once the Obama team are in place, they will begin to smother all opposition to his new form of government, established under the guise of “change.” Obama will create a new America after his own image and he has a powerful following who now feel that they ARE the law of the land.
By jrscott
November 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
“We can’t be lulled into complacency,” Broun said. “You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I’m not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I’m saying is there is the potential.”Those are Broun’s words. Now I ask you, how do you justify twisting it into: “accused Barack Obama of being a Marxist with secret plans to take over the country, abolish all rights and rule as dictator just as Hitler did.”
The situation our country finds itself in is extremely similar to that of Germany in the 1930s. Obama’s own speeches state he wants to build a “Civilian Police Force”, a move that Hitler did immediately upon taking control. They called that force the Gestapo, and we know what they did.
The Representative is not incorrect when he draws parallels, and he thought he was careful enough to make clear he was pointing them out and not saying Obama was necessarily up to no good. But he underestimated the stupidity of people like Jay Bookman and the sheeple that read his drivel.
There is a reason printed newspaper and network news is going the way of the dinosaur. And “Journalism” like this is the reason. It has become a cancer on our nation, influencing people to make poor decisions based on incomplete or incorrect information.
By Stuart
November 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Is there some law, some confusing amendment I answered “yes” to at some point that authorized a special education department in Georgia politics? Why do we keep shipping every village idiot in Georgia with a blow dryer and can of hairspray to Washington? Can’t they just stay home and listen to their Lee Greenwood CD’s, and stop making us all look stupid?
By Andy
November 11, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
People who first warned about Hitler were said to be crazy too until they were proven right. The scariest simularity between Obama and Hitler is their Kool-Aid drinkers.
By Chris
November 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
It’s one thing for blowhards like Limbaught, O’Reilly, Hannity and Coulter to fan the flames of right-wing hatred. But a U.S. congressman? Rep. Broun’s comments were irresponsible at best, downright crazy at worst. Lunatic fringe describes this clown perfectly.
By Mario
November 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
And when these “domestic security forces” (Obama’s words, not mine) come asking you zealots which neighbors have guns or have spoken against him, will you turn them in?
Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. It’s happened many times in the past. I am not white, so this is not a racist comment. Obama and his words scare the hell out of me.
Don’t forget NAZI was the National Socialist (“spread the wealth”) Workers Party.
Ignorant, deluded fools. It CAN happen again.
By Laurie
November 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
I must admit when I saw the Militaristic Obama Chant, Hitler immediately came to mind. I don’t think this Congressman is crazy, just brave enough to say what many of us are thinking…..
By the guardian
November 11, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Dear Swampy & Scrappy:
I’ve seen a number of posts similar to yours in recent months. Like you, these posters have accused Bush, Cheney and the Patriot Act of destroying civil liberties and taking away our freedoms.
Now, my dilemma is a simple one. Ya see, me, my family and all my friends have yet to experience any diminished freedoms as a result of Mr Bush, Mr Cheney or the Patriot Act.
Therefore, after seeing your posts, I thought you two would be willing to share with us exactly which freedoms you and all the rest of us law abiding folks have lost. You know, just a few examples — heck, just one will do — of the freedoms we’ve lost due to that wicked Patriot Act?
By Kevin
November 11, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Bold: They called George Orwell crazy too when he wrote Animal Farm.
By Mario
November 11, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
And when these “domestic security forces” (Obama’s words, not mine) come asking you zealots which neighbors have guns or have spoken against him, will you turn them in?
Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. It’s happened many times in the past. I am not white, so this is not a racist comment. Obama and his words scare the hell out of me.
Don’t forget NAZI was the National Socialist (“spread the wealth”) Party.
Ignorant, deluded fools. It CAN happen again.
By sunkawakan
November 11, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
It is sad to see Georgia citizens who continue with old tired neocon rhetoric about their President-elect. Perhaps one ought to look at the “citizen security forces” that their own George W. Bush put in place before spinning off spurious garbage.
By the guardian
November 11, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Dear Swampy & Scrappy:
I’ve seen a number of posts similar to yours in recent months. Like you, these posters have accused Bush, Cheney and the Patriot Act of destroying civil liberties and taking away our freedoms.
Now, my dilemma is a simple one. Ya see, me, my family and all my friends have yet to experience any diminished freedoms as a result of Mr Bush, Mr Cheney or the Patriot Act.
Therefore, after seeing your posts, I thought you two would be willing to share with us exactly which freedoms you and all the rest of us law abiding folks have lost. You know, just a few examples — heck, just one will do — of the freedoms we’ve lost due to that wicked Patriot Act?
By GiGi
November 11, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Bashing Braun will not change the facts. Of course, we cannot blame the uninformed, the ones who watch liberal media and were not shown the video of the black panthers guarding the polls with nightsticks!
People who voted for Obama (those that are not dead) are already gasping, “What have we done?”
By bogan
November 11, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Marcus, where did you get your info? I can’t see where much of ANYTHING was discussed. Please enlighten us.
By jst
November 11, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
“Fearmongering” and “reactionary” describe Rep. Paul Broun’s recent comments about President-elect Obama perfectly. I’ll admit that I’m puzzled about Obama’s oblique reference to a civilian national security force since he has of yet not provided any specifics to his plans. What he has said, in various speeches, about increasing citizen involvement in the safety and security of our nation should be qualified as visionary brainstorming at this point – things to build on, refine, cultivate, or scrap entirely – and nothing more.
The point is not that Obama’s words smack of Marxist philosophy and we are in danger of becoming a police state. The point is that he is deliberately and rightly putting the burden – nay, the privilege – of change on the shoulders of every individual in the country. Involvement and teamwork at the national and global level are no longer behaviors that we can opt out of; we exhort these of our youth, from childhood to young adulthood, as assets, but when challenged by our leaders to behave likewise, we scream, “Marxist! Socialist! Unclean!” And once we think we have Obama categorized, we are off the hook: we no longer have to fear listening to something that might make us rethink ourselves.
Broun says he fears Obama will limit Second Amendment rights by placing some restrictions on gun ownership – more fearmongering to whip all the right-wingers into a frenzy. I must admit I see no point in ordinary citizens owning automatic or assault weapons and would ban these myself: does this make me a Marxist? I submit that the citizens of Kennesaw and other towns and cities across the country who’ve adopted mandatory gun ownership laws – a tool of Reactionary, right-wing thinking – are closer to becoming Marxists or Socialists than am I.
But let’s grow up. This is the 21st century. I submit we rid our vocabulary of words such as Marxism, Socialism, or any of the derivations thereof, since the philosophies themselves are completely outdated and irrelevant to both the historical context in which we live and the complex demographic of our nation. If we want change, we must avoid regressing to horse-and-buggy thinking and name calling and endorse a new paradigm.
Truly, we’ve seen the repercussions of complacency and submittal across history, and we are wise to get “mavericky” and avoid becoming cogs in any system that threatens to eat us alive. However, we have enough reminders of the repercussions of fear that we should resist Rep. Broun’s drumbeat call toward a self-righteous, reactionary, mob mentality.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
I say we lock Broun up in a room with the Dixie chicks and lots of red jello…..
By Mario
November 11, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Guardian,
Freedom to board a plane without being rubbed down by an ex-con TSA worker, freedom to keep my shoes on, freedom to have a telephone conversation without an unauthorized wiretap, freedom to support my ideals via legislative action organizations (“campaign reform act” a CLEAR violation of the 1st ammendment), etc. etc. etc. (Read my previous post, I believe we have gone from bad to worse with this election).
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Jay I guess no retraction from you just flat out lying in your assertion that Broun said those things or was that your journalistic interpretation.
Who cares about accuracy as long as it promotes YOUR cause right.
Getting all these people that mad at teh represenative, yet you did not even take the time or effort to report what he said, you just interopreted.
That is just wrong to intentionally damage a man politically just so you can bring up paranoia and anger from the left.
That boarderlines on slander sir not just poor journalism.
By Marion
November 11, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
jst,
Automatic weapons have been restricted since 1934. Your should educate yourself before speaking. You are articulate but ultimately wrong.
By Abi
November 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
To all those who say they fear for america.You should said that when you r demented cowboy of a president took away civil liberties and invaded countries without UN approval. Those were the actions of an international tyrant. But hey he looked like you and the ppl suffering didnt so who cares right??
Now you have a man who doesnt and every statement makes you wet your pants. God this is so funny!!
By Odotter
November 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Marxism is alive and well in throughout the U.S.
Socialism is espoused at all levels of our eduation system.
The networks and major newsprint organizations laud anyone who believes in collectivism and redistribution.
It’s simply God’s judgment on a country gone bad.
By jst
November 11, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
Mario, I think I remember McVeigh and the Unibomber making the same statements.
By Mario
November 11, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
jst,
Automatic weapons (which real assault weapons are) have been severely restricted since 1934. Your should educate yourself before speaking. You are articulate and eloquent, but ultimately wrong.
By jst
November 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
Mario, I think I remember McVeigh and the Unibomber making the same statements.
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
I wonder what type of weapon I will be issued in the National Security Force?
P.S.
I just bought gas for $1.96. If that had been the price a month ago and we had not had the supposed economic crisis, McCain would be the President Elect.
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Did we not warn of this during the election?! The Press admits that they failed to vet this guy while spending thousands on vetting Palin; no not vetting… destroying! When the press loses it’s ability to report freely because this guy takes them over as his official propaganda machine do you think they will see their bias?! Their idol worship?! Sane people, sir, are not snickering they are preparing for a reign of terror from the left. You, my friend, may be chosen ‘Propagandist In Chief’ if you keep carrying the water for this Bozo. At that prospect, I am sure, you are tingling up both legs and wetting down at least one.
By Mark
November 11, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Yesterday on ‘Meet the Press’ a senior member of Obama’s transition team told Brokaw that Obama would be ready to “RULE” from his first day in office.
Last time I checked we didn’t elect King Obama…
By Barb
November 11, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
It’s sad that so many Americans have blinders on where Obama is concerned. Congressman Broun has more than ample reasons to believe the way he does. Since the media hid everything they could that was controversial about Obama during the campaign, and since a great number of Americans don’t do their own due diligence when deciding who to vote for (but merely rely on the media, which is a grave mistake), I’m not surprised that many of you don’t have a CLUE about your candidate of choice (now President-elect). Unfortunately, that means you drag the other 47% of us who had our eyes open down with you. Go get yourself a copy of “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinski — Obama’s mentor and the place from whence comes his ideology and technique. It has been his playbook for this election. Based on deception and playing to the middle classes in order to gain control (Alinski taught it — Obama also taught workshops on the “method” while still in Chicago). Alinski also talks about the necssity of establishing a Civilian police force that’s loyal to you in order to further gain control and quiet dissenting voices. This country has been PLAYED and blind-sided because of our “political correctness” and people falling into Obama-zombiism by buying into his charisma and cult of personality. Hopefully you’ll all wake up before it’s too late. Stop attacking the messengers and start doing your own research. “Beware the enemy within.” — Churchill
By mike hussein smith
November 11, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Regardless of whether Broun was being racist or paranoid, I think most of us can agree that he was being extremely stupid. And he represents UGA in Congress?
I see that once again, Management, your shoddy reporting skills have come back to bite you in the butt. The part about Obama’s proposal being similar to one by the Bush admin was, I think, crucial to understanding that the congressman is grasping at straws to misrepresent what Obama said. And yet you left that part out of your c&p. When you get caught on these things, your credibility suffers just a little bit more. It will soon be gone completely.
By Jules
November 11, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
You liberal Marxists complaining about this man’s comments will be the first ones LINING UP to get your brown shirts and marching orders- You’re absolutely brain-dead and NOT to be trusted-
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Mario I agree we have lost freedoms for the past couple of administrations. Until we the people decide that it is not the governments job to determine your sucess it will continue. We cannot wait on the leaders to come up with ideas to make our lives easier or more productive. As people we must understand that our lives are in our hands, any sucess that any of us wants is attainable as long as we work hard and overcome obstacles. Some people will have it easier that is life it is not fair get over it.
As long as we ask the government for help they will continue to take our rights away. Which is fair because we are saying to them we cannot do it on our own. So they help and also assume that there are other areas of our lives that need help as well. In closing if we want the government to get out of our lives, then we need to quit asking them for things then. Do it on our own and we will be left alone.
By ross
November 11, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Note to Mr. Broun:
I was profoundly disturbed by the tone and content of your recent comments attempting to link President-Elect Obama to Marxists and Nazis. This type of inflammatory rhetoric is unhelpful, off-topic at best, and potentially dangerous in its capacity to incite certain fringe elements.
Free speech is one thing, but as an elected official you should have a stronger sense of circumspection, and dignity. Your comments were an embarrassment to this state and call into question whether you have the judgment and temperament to represent Georgia.
By Kathy
November 11, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Bookman’s abusive column misstates what Rep. Broun actually said, and, more problemmatic, Bookman ignores the potential implications of Obama’s proposal. Is it too much to expect the media to refocus critical attention in ways that protect our freedoms?
By jst
November 11, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
I don’t look good in brown. How ‘bout tie-dyed, Comrad Jules?
By Tim
November 11, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Rep. Broun said “Hitler was also elected by a Democratic Germany” like Obama was elected.
Uh… Hitler was “appointed” (not elected) Chancelor by Hindenberg. I guess that does not make as good a story, though… eh? From where are these people coming?
By jst
November 11, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
I don’t look good in brown. How ‘bout tie-dyed, Comrade Jules?
By Marcus
November 11, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Bogan… To answer your question you can find info about what was discussed in the private meetings on pretty much any news outlet. They talk about, among other things, the auto bailout and Columbia. However the public should never have known this in the first place since it was discussed in a private meeting and Obama later leaked it to his people. Check Fox News for Bush’s feelings on the matter.
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Hey Bosh, you mean normal wingnuts like Barney Franks and the rest of his cohorts?! That’s the problem, you libs are so far gone I’m afraid that you have abandoned reason altogether. The Hitler Youth was set up as a civic organization during hard financial times in Germany. Hitler was taking Germany in a “New Direction”. If you cannot acknowledge that this, given Obamas Marxist leanings, is not, at least, a possibility, then you need to just go drink your cool aid and leave thinking people to discuss the matter. When they come to drag you off to the gulag, you will have no moral authority to go whining around, just smile and say I voted for this guy. Ain’t it swell? !
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Wow, the rabid right is alive and well today.
Calm down people, now you know how we’ve felt for the past eight years, and ya’ know what? WE were basing our opinions and accusations about the Bush/Cheney machine on things they actually DID!!!
Not made up paranoid fantasies.
Funny how you wingnuts are so damn paranoid about Obama but gave Bush a free pass for the past eight years when he actually demonstrated the same paranoid things you mention about Obama - hell, he actually DID THEM!
By getalife
November 11, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Good point Tim.
Hot Air agrees
Thanks RW, not banned yet.
ODS is running rampant and the President has not served one day.
Geez.
By Joe
November 11, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
You decide where this country stands. It’s like … the house is burning down and those in power want to talk about how should we rearrange the coat hangers.
A warning … circa 1787 re the fall of the Athenian Republic:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money (generous gifts) from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilization has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence.
From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependence back into bondage.”
We are over due!
By Pat
November 11, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Seems to me that this latest bit of paranoia from what Bill Moyers calls the reptilian right is a true indicator of where the Republican Party is headed. My crystal ball reveals a Palin/Brown Whack-job (formerly Republican) Party ticket in 2012.
By Mario
November 11, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Jst,
So your eloquence gives way to ad-hominem attacks when questioned. McVeigh and the Unabomber? PLEASE! Ready up: National Firearms Act of 1934. Enacted to TAX automatic firearms and their transfer in response to Al Capone and use by the criminal element. Requires extensive federal background checks, months of waiting and tax stamps. VERY few people actually own automatic firearms in the USA and have never used them in a crime (except one police officer, once).
Stop calling people names and EDUCATE yourself.
By jst
November 11, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
Amen, Bosch. The good thing about these wacky Reactionaries is that they’re always nearby so you can easily get a good laugh when you need one.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Jay so not even a maybe I was overstating things? Nothing? You completly butcherd what the man said.
All now know you are a complete joke of a hack.
Maybe the most dishonest and dishonorable reporting I have seen in my 27 years.
What is worse you sit and read the comments people are making based on a lie you sold to them.
You ae more rabid than any evangelicale nut. Yo do the same as they do, you take something said then lie and twist it. Next you broadcast your opinion out to people who you assume are too stupid to look it up for themselves. Then you throw your journalist creed away as you knowingly put out a false report for the purpose of political gain.
You have lost all credibility and I hope others see it that way and look at anything EVER written by you again as fiction and only for entertainment value.
Just put a retraction in something anything to let us know that you know you lied.
By Tim
November 11, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
With the “dictator” Obama, I am afraid we will now have our phones wire-tapped without oversight by the courts… I am afraid people will be held in detention indefinitely without a trial … I am afraid we will be fed misinformation that could manipulate us into war …
oh… wait a minute?
By jst
November 11, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Amen, Bosch. The good thing about these wacky Reactionaries is that they’re always nearby so you can easily get a good laugh when you need one.
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
News Release
“Just hours after President Bush and President-elect Obama met in the Oval Office of the White House, details of their confidential conversation began leaking out to the press, igniting anger from the president, sources claim.”
Loose lips sink ships !
By AJC/DNC Management
November 11, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
True, the country has changed and our party must adapt. However, it is wrong to believe we must change our principles or become conservative-lite. After all, the voters did not suddenly become liberal; but they have lost any sense of confidence that the Republican Party holds the answers to their problems.
Our faith in the power and ingenuity of the individual to build a nation through hard work, personal responsibility and self-discipline is our uniting principle. That is the sacred ground upon which our Republican Party was built. For the sake of all Americans, it is the ground we must reclaim.
Mr. Steele is chairman of GOPAC, a Republican political-action committee.
Word up.
By Ryan
November 11, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Listen people, whether your for or against Obama the fact is that he is not going to make any major changes to this country in 4 or 8 years. If anyone knows anything about the structure of our government and the constitution they would know how difficult it is to make changes to it. There is a reason that the founders created such a cumbersome document which is to protect the people from the Hitlers of the world.
By Ryan
November 11, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Everybody quick! Pig pile! Let’s muffle this guy and call him out as a looney instead of letting him speak and looking at the facts— Obama said it.
By Rick Richardson
November 11, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
There may be some sane folks snickering, but many are astounded that such an idiot could get elected to represent the 10th District of Georgia. The “honorable” Rep. Broun represents what this country just rejected: bigotry, ignorance, and hate-filled rhetoric from the Right. You would think someone with a M.D. after their name would have at least a little sense. Maybe Mad Dog is what his title represents. It is just and fitting that such bigots now have to live with a Black President. I remember hearing a saying when I lived in Georgia: Dumber than Dirt. Sounds about right. What a dork.
Rick Richardson Sneads Ferry, NC
By Mario
November 11, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Reactionaries?
More name calling? Boy, you are a Rhodes Scholar. Cynical about Obama does not mean pro-Bush. But I guess that concept is lost on you.
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Bosch, you based your opinions on the what the press and your wingnuts told you that Bush and Cheney did.
You let them make up the paranoid fantasies. Your culpability is that you just got up every morning and turned CNN on to see what to think and to find out who didn’t bomb you this morning. The press, the media and Hollywood hate Bush/Cheney so no fair shake was given. History smiles kindly upon statesmen who dare to lead during difficult times, not traitorous wingnuts.
By JB
November 11, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
These comments are fear tactics. Paul Brown should be brought in by the CIA and questioned for his comments.
President -elect Obama won fair and square and was chosen by the majority of people in the USA. We should tolerate this behaviour from a US Congressman. I question this man’s integrity!
By JB
November 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
These comments are fear tactics. Paul Brown should be brought in by the CIA and questioned for his comments.
President -elect Obama won fair and square and was chosen by the majority of people in the USA. We should not tolerate this behaviour from a US Congressman. I question this man’s integrity!
By JB
November 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
These comments are fear tactics. Paul Brown should be brought in by the CIA and questioned for his comments.
President -elect Obama won fair and square and was chosen by the majority of people in the USA. We should not tolerate this behaviour from a US Congressman. I question this man’s integrity!
By Tom
November 11, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
Ahh … I’m confused ! Did anybody see my white bedsheets ? My armband ? My old USSR hammer & sickle flag ? Never mind I’ll go to Paul Broun (Braun) house . No doubt there is a Cornucopia of hate under his bed ! I live in Georgia It’s the moonshine he drinks Getz ya’ everytime’
By Jack
November 11, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
Comments by rep may be crazy but so is Barry’s idea of a civilian force that is as powerful and well funded as the military—isn’t this proposal by Obama equally crazy?
By Patt
November 11, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
This latest bit of paranoia from what Bill Moyers calls the reptilian right is a true indicator of where the Republican Party is headed. My crystal ball reveals a Palin/Broun Whack-job (formerly Republican) Party ticket in 2012.
By nelson
November 11, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
To all of the people who are defending Rep. Broun:
Many of you feel like you are in the know because you don’t listen to CREDIBLE news sources like CNN, PBS, NPR, New York Times, Factcheck.org, etc. However, what you fail to realize is that you are listening to the news sources that are questionable (Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox News, etc). You see these credible sources are like history books in that they are backed by “facts” that are supported by a majority of historians or journalists.
What you need to do is stop believing something that a person says blindly. A novel is NOT fact! There are hundreds of members of the media and when only a few of them state something to be fact then they are most likely wrong.
I only ask that you read history books and realize that we don’t live in a Marxist society or communist or socialist. I personally think we could benefit from a Social-Democracy like Europe has but that still doesn’t mean it would be bad or that wealth would literally be spread around. Socialism does not equal Totalitarianism. That is an ignorant statement. A__holes in power equal Totalitarianism, which would never happen in the US.
You guys are scared because of the unknown, I get it but attacking a man who can bring so much “good” change to our political landscape is good. We all need to come together and figure out the solutions to our problems. We are a community, a nation made of many different races, creeds, and cultures. None of us would be able to sustain our lives without one another. That is the mind set President Obama is trying to establish. That is how all great societies survive!
I hope I made some senses. Be compassionate towards your fellow man!
By Ryan
November 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Listen people, whether your for or against Obama the fact is that he is not going to make any major changes to this country in 4 or 8 years. If anyone knows anything about the structure of our government and the constitution they would know how difficult it is to make changes to it. There is a reason that the founders created such a cumbersome document which is to protect the people from the Hitlers of the world.
By BDatlanta
November 11, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
FDR instituted the WPA in 1935 which offered jobs to out-of-work people; jobs in infrastructure building, adult education, etc.
I can’t say America is any worse off for having had that as part of its past. We had a bridge collapse in Minneapolis 2 years ago. It looks like we need something like that again. If people want to work and there are things that need to get done…
By Mario
November 11, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
JB
Wow, what happened to freedom of speech? You would have the CIA interrogate a Congressman? Should they torture him as well? Wow! The “intolerant” left has spoken… as it always does.
By gadem
November 11, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
I have just deciphered wing nut lingo…now follow along and if you have any questions, please feel free to raise your hands….
Marxist = Uppity Colored Socialist = Uppity Colored Ruler = Uppity Colored
Now I would have substituted the word that they are really saying but everyone gets the picture. The religious right, holier than thou wing nuts will be the destruction of America!!
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
JB, I think maybe you and other leftists don’t tolerate free speech? That’s what I am hearing. Please explain yourself.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Nelson but do you not find it a little irresponsible for Bookman to misrepresent what was said by the rep.
You bash the people on here who watch hannity or o’reilly. But not a word to the host of the blog who has yet to say my bad for lying about what the repo. said?
In your opinion it is ok for one group to lie and people believe it, but it is crazy talk for the other group to be slanteed and people agree with it.
Quite a system you have there.
By Jules
November 11, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
jst, how do you think you’ll look in heavy black vinyl with a full-length zipper? I doubt you’ll be amused…
This country is headed for a dissolution of the Union thanks to the insane left! Jules
By AJ
November 11, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
People like Broun have no place in government. Obviously this is a person who lives in a constant state of fear and projects that onto someone else. For a congressman to make such ludicrous inferences is abhorrent. Personally, I feel he should resign and start dealing with his inner demons.
By BDatlanta
November 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
You wingnuts are losing it and the guy isn’t even the President yet.
Wingnuts, step away from the Hannity and Limbaugh. Learn to think for yourself for a change. You will find it’s actually kinda fun to figure things out yourself.”
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Larry Grizzle,
Are you trying to tell me that Bush didn’t do the following:
The Bush Doctrine which calls for pre-emptive strikes against sovreign nations
Labeling dissenters as un-patriotic or dangerous
Imprisoned people without due process
Condoned the use of torture
Invaded a sovreign nation under false pretenses
Illegally spied on U.S. citizens
Broadened Executive privledges to unprecedented levels
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
What exactly did the congressman say AJ? Do you know what he actually said?
If so what was it that offended you so, or that you feel he should resign for?
By sun_dawg
November 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
I find this topic quite interesting. one point being that if anyone disagrees with obama or attacks his policies his is immediately labeled as a possible racist. when did we lose our 1st admendment rights to say as we believe? I may not agree with what you say but i will defend your right to say it (would you do the same for me??)
point two, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes. i believe that the senators concern over the obvious parallels between stalins, hitlers, and obama’s rise to power(the media love of them, the fanticism of the people with them, wanting a civil security force that answered to them, and the eventual disarmament of the populace, etc) should not be dismissed as mere coincidence.
I am not advocating that there is a commie under every bed, but i am advocating exercising the rights and freedoms we have been given often at a high price of our service men and women. we have the freedom and duty to questions our government when we do not agree with it. we should be free to critizie and disagree with out governemtn without fear of repisals or incriminations. if you do not exercise that right, you have no one to blame but yourself when things start to go south. maybe even one is wrong about obamas plans. but the plain facts are we should not go blindly into the night but with eyes open as to where our government is leading us
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
gadem, you are a racist. Please use cogent arguments and quit trying to stir up racism. Thank you very much.
By Mario
November 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
The fear is not Obama. The fear is Obama with a Democrat Congress and Senate. No checks and balances (particularly if they have 61 votes in the Senate). Ryan, the Constitution is not “cumbersome”, it is elegant. It was written WAY before Hitler. Change can come in two years at the midterm elections, as it did for Bill Clinton in 1994 if the country sees a substantial move towards European style “Social Democracy”. The country is still “right of center” and no one should interpret this election as anything but a rejection of Bush and his policies (who was not a conservative). The election was not an embrace of socialist ideals and those who feel there is a mandate for socialism, wealth redistribution, etc. will get “checked” in two years.
By tom adkins
November 11, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
All the man did was recite historical events, and state that “if” the events unfold as per Obama’s speech (which he hoped never to occur)… then we have a HUGE problem. Do you need to exaggerate the Congressman’s statement to make him appear to be crazy. I think he’s quite sane.
CRAZY is the feeble Press that looks the other way when leaders say what they’re going to do, and then (unbelievably) implement what they’ve said… including oppressive rule over even the smartest of peoples.
Especially a crazy is a Press that call’s those waving the warning flags of history “Crazy”.
Why not examine Mr. Obama’s statement, and ask him what he meant by it, and ask if it could ever become a reality?? Instead you dismiss a very smart & accomplished man as “Crazy”.
I can only conclude that you are prejudiced toward the one prevailing thought, and against the other. Is that being an intellectually honest & free press?
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
Do you have a link to the entire interview?
If so, could you please post it?
By gadem
November 11, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
So much for supporting the President and the country…President Obama has not even taken office yet, and you nut jobs are already screaming that the sky is falling. You guys act as if he has went off and declared himself supreme ruler of the United States. You guys are really what is wrong with America…you are not patriotic, but afraid that you are ever decreasing minority that is truly becoming the minority and afraid of losing whatever perceived power that you may have had. Do you guys think that all of our elected representatives and senators would just roll over and let President Obama do as he pleases? I say this now, as I said before the election, whatever is GOD’s WILL is GOD’s WILL…so where is your faith? If it is ordained that OBAMA leads this country, then who are you guys to go against GOD? And that is real talk. Enough of the fear mongering and hate/race baiting…the economy is in shambles, people are losing their jobs left and right, and you guys are crying about what might happen.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Read it and weep, South-will-rise-againers!
Whistling past Dixie all the way to White House
Does this not echo what I was saying the other day?
The Republicans, meanwhile, have “become a Southernized party,” said Mr. Schaller, who teaches at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. “They have completely marginalized themselves to a mostly regional party,” he said, pointing out that nearly half of the current Republican House delegation is now Southern.
Merle Black, an expert on the region’s politics at Emory University in Atlanta, said the Republican Party went too far in appealing to the South, alienating voters elsewhere.
By Jeff
November 11, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
I expect to see anonymous people flinging around comparisons to Hitler and throwing out words like “Marxism” and “Socialism” in these comments, but it’s sad to see those words come out of an elected official’s mouth. If you honestly think Obama is going to take over the country and turn us into some sort of new-age USSR, well I feel sorry for you, but you’re entitled to your opinion, regardless of how uneducated it is. And I get a kick out of this “socialism” crap, we live in a selectively socialist country. Farm subsidies, Medicaid, Medicare, public housing programs, Social Security, unemployment, school lunch programs, etc. And “spreading the wealth,” that is what taxes do; the government takes money and redistributes it.
By robert
November 11, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
In the 1930’s history recorded another civilian national security force known as Hitler’s Youth.Primarily organized to keep an eye on the enemy within- in other words anyone who didn’t agree with the fuehrer.They were cruel and relentless and had no problems reporting on any dissenters including family and friends to the Gestapo ( secret police ). Hard to believe but whoever thought this great country would soon adopt the fundamentals of socialism.
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
Since it is Veterans Day, Opposing Obama’s socialist/liberal policies anyway I can reminds me of Churchhill’s speech:
“we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender ………
Ooo Rah brother conservatives ….. fight on !!
By Ryan
November 11, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Mario, the constitution is cumbersome in the sense that it is difficult to make changes to it or get around it’s restrictions. After all, there have been less than 20 amendments in the last 200 plus years.
Also there are checks and balances in the government. The supreme court has the final word on the constitutionality of anything done by the congress or the president and the members of that court, being appointed for life, are immune to political pressures.
Also, I did not say that the constitution was written in response to Hitler. It was written to protect the people of the United States from the tyranny that comes from a dictatorship. People like the king of england or hitler.
By Swami Dave
November 11, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
JST:
I will be happy to quit identifying policy or proponents of it as “marxist” or “socialist” when its tenents and principles are no longer promoted. The best way to avoid reference with a label is to disassociate from the identifying factors of it. The best way for a liar to avoid that label is to quit lying.
Personally, I look forward with hope to the day that Marx, his philosophy, and all of its derivative offspring are forever condemned to the ash heap of history. Society will be much the better off when our children can only find reference to any of it in frayed, brittled, dusty books in a library surrounded by shelves of texts questioning the common sense or wisdom of the colossal morons who made up its adherents.
There is something for which to hope!
Until then, if you propose or support a policy that embodies the idea of “from each according to his ability to each according to his need”, do not be upset if the policy (and therefore, anyone defending it) is associated with its originator, Marx. Marx was simply attempting to accomplish with governance what muggers do with a club or gun. At core, it is simply taking under threat of injury or punishment (or by deception) something that the thief wants that happens to belong to someone else.
Would you prefer that we simplify and label liberals what they truly are and just call them thieves?
-Swami Dave
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Bosch, these are all the things that you’ve been told to believe. Hate fills your days and for that I am not happy. You have been told to hate and you hate. You don’t believe in anything really, you just hate what others do or believe. You have been brought up in a world where you believe that you have a right to freedom and a right to liberty and that all men mean well. All we have to do is communicate. All we must do is reach out and they will respond. The only danger in the world is that we will over reach. Others do not. We are guilty. We deserve to be less than we are. We can let down our guard militarily, in fact we must. Others will see this and disarm also. The United States is wrong in all that it does unless proven otherwise. Moral equivalency oozes out of our pores. God can’t favor us above others just because we believe and trust in Him. Just because we have more we MUST feel guilty about it and bring ourselves down to them instead of reaching out to lift others up. We don’t prosper because our system is superior we just got lucky. Woa is us. The future is dark. We must not leave our carbon footprint on this blessed mother orb. Maybe I overstate a little but not much. anyway, God Bless You, Bosch. I hope you come out of the darkness.
By Robert
November 11, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
I could not agree more with the Ga Rep. Why has the media NOT HELD HIM UNDER A MICROSCOPE? Why cause the Media has Liberal White Guilt and the Love OBAMANATION and they would never hurt him
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Bosch as far as I can tell there is not a full allinclusive interview yet been released.
I have found at ap.google.com a pretty fair report of the situation.
Sorry no link our computer is acting screwy, tried like five times and it would not go through.
This is the best one I have seen as of yet. New parts coming out all the time.
From what I read it is not nearly as bad as Bookman or others on here are making it seem.
But I could be wrong.
By Sue
November 11, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
All of us should get informed. Newspaper reading is not information, it is indoctrination. Look for the actual source on the internet or tv with NO commentary. Take the time yourself to find out facts about our government and bills being passed, etc. I think you will be surprised and scared. No name calling please, it’s a waste of energy.
By Jules
November 11, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
Gadem, you sir, are dumber than the dumbest jackass. Actually you exceed that, and there is actually nothing to compare you to. If you paid for any part of your meagre education, you really ought to look into getting a refund.
You would have to be seen and heard to be believed- Obama is GOD’S will???? Permit me to marvel at your lunatic remarks- BTW, you haven’t the slghtest idea what people like myself are objecting to here.
By gadem
November 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Larry Grizzle, you are in denial…there is no argument needed. The responses of you and your ilk provides argument enough. The article that Soixante huitard linked pretty much sums up the responses on this blog…so until you deal with your denial issues… heard an interesting take on Christian radio yesterday, read Judges 4…
By docdj
November 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Is he related to Michelle Bachmann R-MN?
By BDatlanta
November 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Is this paranoia the reason conservatives won’t select an intelligent person to run for their party? Because that person might want to try some new approaches to the problems at hand? Let’s face it folks, we have some real problems.
52% of the voting population voted for this guy because they thought he was the best person for this period in time.
By Thomas
November 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
He said Obama is showing signs of a Marxist. He is showing signs of an Idiot.
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
A copy of the letter I am sending to Broun:
Rep. Broun,
As the son of a woman who fled Nazi Germany, I am always particularly distressed when any American makes glib comparisons between what is advocated here and the atrocities my family and many others suffered 70 years ago.
Your recent statement doing that very thing is both reprehensible and unworthy of any elected US representative.
On this sacred day especially, America does not need such embarrassing and dishonorable men comparing decent Americans to Adolph Hitler.
Please do the honorable thing for your constituents, the state of Georgia and the United States of America and immediately resign from your position in the US Congress.
Sincerely,
By chris
November 11, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
How could someone be so disrespectful as to compare our newly elected president to Hitler? It’s horrible to think that this Congressman is supposed to be representing his state. I’m a Californian and I’m scratching my head thinking, “Is this what it’s like in Georgia?”
By JR
November 11, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
So many on the left have talked about the rights they have lost under the Bush administration yet have no problem with Obama’s pledge to eliminate voting by secret ballot for unions. I thought voting by secret ballot was one of our rights, so why the hypocrisy?
By Hope in Georgia
November 11, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Why are these nut-jobs always from Georgia? Excuse me. I am late for my appointment at the gun dealer’s. I need to hurry before he runs out of AK-47s.
By AJ
November 11, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
I hope he is up for re-election soon and is voted out of Congress because comments like these are not good for bi-partisanship and bringing the United States together, we are ONE NATION UNDER GOD, our differences are what make us a great nation and our similarities are what God intended we he created man in his own image!
By Abomi Nation
November 11, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Just watch, the Democrats will act quickly. They will turn us all into socialists.
Don’t be surprised to see the new Democratic majority quickly pass a Prescription Drug benefit plan that will lead us deeper into socialism. The plan known as Medicare Part D will “spread the wealth.” They won’t even allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices. This plan would make FDR proud. This will be our biggest step towards socialism since the New Deal.
The hard core socialists Dems are even prepared to keep Congress in session until 3am to the the votes they need.
“Hard to believe but whoever thought this great country would soon adopt the fundamentals of socialism.”
By FARMER
November 11, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
LET THE OPPRESSION BEGIN and LOOK UP, YOUR SALVATION (or damnation) DRAWETH NIGH
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Larry Grizzle@12:30,
You’re joking right?
If not, whatever.
You didn’t answer the question, did Bush NOT do those things, or have I been lied to by the liberal media, and nearly everyone else in this country?
Or do you just chose to ramble about…..um, what the hell are you talking about, really.
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
gadem, yes, we will stand on God’s will. We will work towards His ends and goals and depend on His goodness and faithfulness. And after we have done all we will stand. Pretty simple really. It beats thrashing around in the darkness trying to see where the next step will lead. The problem is, in thrashing around in the darkness you fail to look backward into history to learn from it. In doing so the darkness ahead is not illuminated and you trudge head on into traps that could have been avoided. God is a good and logical God who is willing to lead and to guide but He does not do it in a vacuum. He requires of us adherence to the truth. Without truth you have no anchor and without an anchor we and our societey become nothing but a decaying leaf blowing in the wind. You say “No God”, the Bible calls you a fool. That’s not me that is God. Your beef appears to be with Him.
By dw
November 11, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Bookman,
Has Obama ever proposed a national security force that’s answering to just the President.
If not, case closed. If so, yikes!
By SN
November 11, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
I don’t know which is worse. A Congressman saying something like this, or the fact that the voters of his district just re-elected him.
By Dick
November 11, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
This is a good balance. He is hoping that it is not true. I hope that we are not like the Germans were with Hitler. That we look at all the chances for danger and avoid them. If he is not going to use this civilian force for his purposes then what is the purpose? I have to agree with Broun that we need to keep our guard up just in case. I hope God will bless America again!
By Condorcet
November 11, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
You can’t call someone a Marxist and a Nazi…it just doesn’t work. Rep. Broun loses any credibility the moment he links the two.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Personally, I look forward with hope to the day that Marx, his philosophy, and all of its derivative offspring are forever condemned to the ash heap of history.
My good friend, Swami, do you realize what you’re saying?
One really ought not to say things about someone whose name is certainly going to outlive you and his opponents too.
Marx was arguably the first thinker to properly understand the true nature of capitalism in its full world-historical impact and in that respect he has hardly been surpassed to this day.
Are you frothing at the mouth yet, Swami, that I would have the nerve to say that?
I even wrote that while sitting at a computer located in the state of Georgia and yet somehow a bolt of lightning did not strike me down. Hmm.
Socialists! In Georgia! How’d they ever get in!
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
Thanks.
chris,
Not in all parts of Georgia.
To everyone else,
The words socialism and Marxism, and Nazism (I say that because of the comparisons to Hitler) are all being thrown out here today, and they are not the same thing. So, with that in mind, can any of you who are scared of Hitlerbama, without looking it up, tell us the difference between the three idealogues?
By mdr
November 11, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
yes that is the type of people we have in congress alwayes runing ther mouth when they should keep it shut a shame to georgia
By Ted
November 11, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
I am curious as to why so many people call this congressman names. Now, I agree, he’s over the top on his accusations. Obama is not Hitler. But I’m glad there are these dissenting voices of concern in America. Here’s why.
I would invite anyone who is interested to thoroughly review the history of how Hitler rose to power in Germany in the 1930’s. I think many in the US, myself included, could never really comprehend how the holocaust could have occurred. How could so many Germans, an entire country almost, fall into such an abominable situation under the rule of horrible human being. But after this recent election, it is becoming more clear. Economic times were horrendous. A giftedly eloquent man, who had little experience but had in his career been a community organizer was able to rise to power over a general attraction to his personality - the idea that because of who he was, he could lead Germany into greatness. His book, “My Struggle” or “Mein Kampf” became very popular [compare Barack’s “Dreams” and “Audacity”] Additionally, after WWI where Germany suffered greatly in the eyes of the world, Germans were itching to become a great land again. His message of nationalism struck a chord with many Germans and drew huge crowds of vehement supporters.
Hitler used the notion of the Fuhrer - the organizational hierarchy of the the national socialists - so effectively, that eventually the third reich became unstoppable. As a part of that, he used the free corps, the Hitler youth, the secret service, etc - and other regional governmental groups - to carry out power grabbing operations. Volunteering for one’s country was used for the betterment of the party. Justifications were rampant. Legalisms were eventually ignored.
Volunteerism is great. The ideas of the health corps, the peace corps, the green corps, etc may [or may not] be good in theory. But when Obama uses the words “a national civilian security force” it is very worthwhile that we have dissenting voices in the US. He needs to be questioned on what he meant by that. It is healthy.
Of course, where the congressman probably mostly goes wrong is that there are also clear differences that make fascism much less likely in the US. While Hitler appealed to most people on the basis of populism and nationalism, his powerful speeches were also filled with hatred towards the Jews and communists. Obama does not have the same level of vitriol. Although his book “Dreams of my Father” does contain some rather interesting passages about race, it would be hard to make the argument that he has a great hatred for any group of potential scapegoats. If he does, he certainly hasn’t made that clear to me. Finally, America also has a better system of checks and balances than Germany at the time.
But instead of calling the congressman crazy, or a loon, or off his rocker, we should examine why he has had such a reaction to Obama’s statements. Confrontation is healthy for our politics, and ensures that a leader like Hitler could never occur under our watch. So I am glad for the minority dissenters - on both sides - just as I was glad that there were a very select few “crazies” in government who opposed Bush on the war in Iraq. Like Barack Obama. :)
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
Hitlerbama - I think I just coined a new term.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Fear and Loathing
Where are all the people who chant “USA, USA, USA…” when you really need them?
The mere mention of the name Barack Obama has the uneducated, the easily swayed by Limbaugh and ignorant running for cover.
The United States of America has a new Presient-Elect and there has NEVER been such fear of change.
Why are there so many cowards?
Then again, the KKK wore hoods to protect their identities.
A Georgia Republican has nothing better than pure treason to offer on the eve of a new presidency?
You call that a representation of the people of his district?
Is that where the people of Georgia stand?
By Mr Snarky
November 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Poor Paul, bless his heart. He says the dumbest things. He’s just trying to deal with the fact that he’s completely irrelevant and just needs a little attention.
By JDW
November 11, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Are there any sane people holding public office in GA? Our congressional delegation is mostly delusional. The state government is run by Larry (Cagle), Curly (take a wild guess), and Moe (Richardson). The judicial system took 3 ½ years and spent millions of dollars to prosecute a guy (Nichols) my 3 year old daughter could have convicted. The mayor of our largest city spent $4.5 million on a hip hop marketing campaign while our sewer system crumbles. Dekalb county has misplaced $40 million in traffic fines. Now I read that Newt, he of 3 wives and strong family values, is bidding to remake the Republican party in his image. That doesn’t even touch the fact that two of the biggest wing nuts Barr and McKinney actual got themselves on the ballot for President around the country. What has happened to our state? More importantly how the heck can we fix it?
By Ted
November 11, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
I am curious as to why so many people call this congressman names. Now, I agree, he’s over the top on his accusations. Obama is not Hitler. But I’m glad there are these dissenting voices of concern in America. Here’s why.
I would invite anyone who is interested to thoroughly review the history of how Hitler rose to power in Germany in the 1930’s. I think many in the US, myself included, could never really comprehend how the holocaust could have occurred. How could so many Germans, an entire country almost, fall into such an abominable situation under the rule of horrible human being. But after this recent election, it is becoming more clear. Economic times were horrendous. A giftedly eloquent man, who had little experience but had in his career been a community organizer was able to rise to power over a general attraction to his personality - the idea that because of who he was, he could lead Germany into greatness. His book, “My Struggle” or “Mein Kampf” became very popular [compare Barack’s “Dreams” and “Audacity”] Additionally, after WWI where Germany suffered greatly in the eyes of the world, Germans were itching to become a great land again. His message of nationalism struck a chord with many Germans and drew huge crowds of vehement supporters.
Hitler used the notion of the Fuhrer - the organizational hierarchy of the the national socialists - so effectively, that eventually the third reich became unstoppable. As a part of that, he used the free corps, the Hitler youth, the secret service, etc - and other regional governmental groups - to carry out power grabbing operations. Volunteering for one’s country was used for the betterment of the party. Justifications were rampant. Legalisms were eventually ignored.
Volunteerism is great. The ideas of the health corps, the peace corps, the green corps, etc may [or may not] be good in theory. But when Obama uses the words “a national civilian security force” it is very worthwhile that we have dissenting voices in the US. He needs to be questioned on what he meant by that. It is healthy.
Of course, where the congressman probably mostly goes wrong is that there are also clear differences that make fascism much less likely in the US. While Hitler appealed to most people on the basis of populism and nationalism, his powerful speeches were also filled with hatred towards the Jews and communists. Obama does not have the same level of vitriol. Although his book “Dreams of my Father” does contain some rather interesting passages about race, it would be hard to make the argument that he has a great hatred for any group of potential scapegoats. If he does, he certainly hasn’t made that clear to me. Finally, America also has a better system of checks and balances than Germany at the time.
But instead of calling the congressman crazy, or a loon, or off his rocker, we should examine why he has had such a reaction to Obama’s statements. Confrontation is healthy for our politics, and ensures that a leader like Hitler could never occur under our watch. So I am glad for the minority dissenters - on both sides - just as I was glad that there were a very select few “crazies” in government who opposed Bush on the war in Iraq. Like Barack Obama. :)
By BDatlanta
November 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Let’s see, we elected an ex-oilman and an ex-military contractor in 2000….and we’ve had lots of war and high gas prices ever since (gas was around $1.40 a gallon in January 2001.)
Now we have a community organizer/constitutional law professor. What’s the worst that could happen? Maybe re-instate the Bill of Rights and do a little community repair work? Yeah, that sounds scary.
By jst
November 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Swami Dave, your views of marxism presuppose that a philosphy is entrenched both in letter and in spirit within the particular historical context in which it was theorized and cannot evolve over time. If this were true, then there would not have been any need to amend the Constitution. Fortunately, we’ve realized over time that ideas need updating, and old frameworks need to be thrown out in favor of new ones. Perhaps what you say about the oppressive nature of socialist and marxist philosophies needs to be viewed with a set of 21st century lenses.
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
BTW, Here is his phone number - (202) 225-4101.
But you may have to wait a while, his mailbox is “full”.
I bet it is.
And forget about contacting him via his house.gov website. His email conveniently does not work.
But here is a working email address: Paul@PaulBroun.com
And for you far right-wing “patriots” here, be sure to contact him and tell him how proud you are of one of your own…
By tbone
November 11, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
As posted on another blog—When ignorance get’s to $100.00 a barrel I want drilling rights to Mr. Broun’s head Enough said!
By gadem
November 11, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
So Jules, I take it that you are no where near a Christian? That explains your xenophobic views of the world…as a dumb counterpart of yours said to me one day…and I quote “War is like someone coming into your house shooting, so yeah war is OK, I agree with war” WTF!?!? So Jules, or should I say “Jewels” I could nap and out debate you, because the world is bigger than what you have made it out to be…everything that happens have already been ordained. When Bush took away our rights, were you jumping up and down and screaming…or was it ok because it was wrapped in the flag by a white man?
By @@
November 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
I don’t find Broun’s assessment of OBlahMa’s “Civilian National Security Force” all that far fetched jay.
PrezE OBlahMa’s first order of business, would be to appeal to, and garner support from those who believe they actually have been abducted by aliens. Can’t count a Republican congressman in that group.
It’s Farrakhanians and Kucinichians from the democrat’s galaxy of stars.
Have you ever taken a close look at Farrakhan’s civilian entourage all decked out in their militaristic apparel? What was it Farrakhan said to his congregation of young OBlahMa supporters? Oh yea!
“When The messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And The messiah is absolutely speaking.
Brrrrrrr….
By RB from Gwinnett
November 11, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Jay, I have to admit, when I saw that headline this morning and then when I read your rant about it, I thought the man was nuts. And then when I read what he ACTUALLY said, and not your race baiting interpretation of it, I came to the conclusion the story is being generated by a biased media representative with an agenda. There is nothing wrong with anything the man said IF Obama really wants to create this security force. Is it true or not? That’s the issue here. If Broun made the story up, he’s nuts, but if it’s true, you all better be worried about it. Thats the stuff dictatorships are made of if it’s true.
For the record, I’d have every bit as much problem with it if Bush was doing it.
BTW, wasn’t Bush supposed to have imposed marshall law before the election to keep himself in power? Didn’t one or several of you nut cases say that would happen a few months back?
By JDW
November 11, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Are there any sane people holding public office in GA? Our congressional delegation is mostly delusional. The state government is run by Larry (Cagle), Curly (take a wild guess), and Moe (Richardson). The judicial system took 3 ½ years and spent millions of dollars to prosecute a guy (Nichols) my 3 year old daughter could have convicted. The mayor of our largest city spent $4.5 million on a hip hop marketing campaign while our sewer system crumbles. Dekalb county has misplaced $40 million in traffic fines. Now I read that Newt, he of 3 wives and strong family values, is bidding to remake the Republican party in his image. That doesn’t even touch the fact that two of the biggest wing nuts Barr and McKinney actual got themselves on the ballot for President around the country. What has happened to our state? More importantly how the heck can we fix it?
By Journalism is Dead
November 11, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
Once again the Obama supporters are given the chance to discuss a matter that should be important to the governance of the country, but instead they ridicule and name call the person who brings it up. Bush had his private security force(Blackwater - ever hear of it?)so it may not be that impossible for a very controlling Obama to consider doing the same thing.
By Big_Willie_Styles
November 11, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Everyone who commented here doesn’t get it: he’s warning about the national military force Obama wants to set up. That’s just like Hitler’s Gestapo. Are you all that ignorant? Obama has shown in the past a preference to censoring negative comments against him. He may enact a thought police.
By oregonObserver
November 11, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Broun is living proof that nobody scares white trash like a black man who is smarter than they are.
By JOHN
November 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
We all must remember that FREEDOM ISNT FREE. Many have bled and died to keep our FREEDOM.Just asked the people of Iraq. WE have realized FREEDOM for so long,that maybe some have forgotten that FREEDOM can be taken from us easily, if we are not diligent is preserving same.
When Hitler started his Brown Shirt Thugery, did anyone stand up and say anything? Always be aware that our FREEEDOM can be taken away, if we don’t care. Someone always needs to step up when there seems to be an issue regarding our FREEDOMS, even a Congressman. John
By Rick Culbertson
November 11, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
I tried to send this little Rant to the congressman but i suspect his email system is overloaded ;-)
Dear Congressman Broun,
It’s a good thing twisted & frightened clowns like you are not capable of being in a real leadership position, any Internet fool can sling uneducated fear & racist laden crap wrapped and hidden in false patriotic bravado. Don’t you get it? of course you don’t, your apparently incapable of a balanced thought. You’re petty and weak mindset is the reason so many positive minded and truly patriotic American citizens voted for President Obama. Thank you and clowns like for helping to elect a man who looks to the future of America with a firm belief in the strength and moral fiber of it’s people to rise above and become a better America, who have the potential to once again be the moral compass of the world.
Limp minded fools like you believe using scary words like Gestapo, Marxist & Fascist Dictatorship (you forgot Socialist) to describe the President Elect is fooling anyone but the few mindless sheep like yourself and your white supremacist friends, your wrong as is usual. The sooner your bottom feeding, hide in the shadows Gene pool dries up from exposure to the harsh, searing bright sun light of the obvious truth the better off humanity will be. So please keep it up, don’t hide in the shadows, be vocal because once people like you open your mouths, you remove all doubt as to who & what you really are.
This is America, where our freedom of speech is a citizens protected right, even and perhaps especially unpatriotic hate filled jerk offs like you. Of course I’m exercising my 1st amendment right to free speech as well, SO GO P** OFF!
By Larry Grizzle
November 11, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
gadem, “you and your ilk”? Very intelligent. It would help if you read the Bible, not just proof texted it off of a “Christian” radio show. I have read Judges and do understand it in it’s context to history and to the rest of the Bible. If you want to discuss it, bring up a specific point and we will do so. Otherwise please use some kind of intelligent argument to make your case if you can. While Christian hating can be an enjoyable sport for some it is not necessarily, of itself, sporting. Here, let me repeat a former entry to see if I sum up your “doctrine” correctly… You beilieve the things that you’ve been told to believe. Hate fills your days and for that I am not happy. You have been told to hate and you hate. You don’t believe in anything really, you just hate what others do or believe. You have been brought up in a world where you believe that you have a right to freedom and a right to liberty and that all men mean well. All we have to do is communicate. All we must do is reach out and they will respond. The only danger in the world is that we will over reach. Others do not. We are guilty. We deserve to be less than we are. We can let down our guard militarily, in fact we must. Others will see this and disarm also. The United States is wrong in all that it does unless proven otherwise. Moral equivalency oozes out of our pores. God can’t favor us above others just because we believe and trust in Him. Just because we have more we MUST feel guilty about it and bring ourselves down to them instead of reaching out to lift others up. We don’t prosper because our system is superior we just got lucky. Woa is us. The future is dark. We must not leave our carbon footprint on this blessed mother orb… I would be interested in your intelligent response not a knee jerk, hate filled, diatribe against “you Christians”.
By Earl
November 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Study your history. Jews and homosexuals were all over the Hitler movement in the beginning. Both groups thought of Hiter as some type of avant garde figure, much like the political fashion statement the left has made of Obama. I am sure many thought it laughable when they were told the real intentions of the SS guards of Hitler. Many Germans were still in denial when the rotting bodies of women and children were left on barbed wired fences. As a matter of fact, read the story of one medics story on today’s cnn.com. Then laugh.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Why is it I am assumed to be uneducated or a religeous nut, or paranoid, or crazy if I happen to question Obama or his policies?
I rarely get my info from O’reilly types and never from a hannity or Rush type. I actually think about what I type and examine how it will be interpreted. They are my own thought but everyday I see were people are called uneducated and stupid for presenting their opinion.
I thought that was the purpose of blogs, to give people a place to express their views and opinions. Apparently now it is a place to have your views and opinions judged. Judged as stupid or not. What a grand society we live in.
By Swami Dave
November 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Soix:
I know exactly what I am saying. I look forward to the day that collectivism and all of its ideological relatives are permanently idenfied as the intellectual frauds that they are. You are free to hold your own perceptions, but, in my humble opinion, the only “greatness” of Marx’s thinking was his ability to redefine theft based on class envy as a legitimate philosophical idea. He translated the individual responsiblity for charity and community into a forced participation that largely abdicated our role to government.
So yes, I know who he was and I know what he was. I also know what I long to see which is all of his ideas shown for the hollow vacancy that they are. The true sadness is that they are a historical failure everywhere that they have been tried, but by their attraction to the human natures of greed and jealously, there seems to be no shortage of followers who will repeatedly attempt to resurrect its principles in order to acquire power.
No, I am not “frothing at the mouth”. It is pity, more than anger, that I truly feel. We happen to disagree.
-Swami Dave
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Ted, I liked your thoughtful post but I do have to take exception to a couple of things.
First of all, I agree with you - partly - that it’s tough for us to understand what drove the Germans to fascism and Nazism. But not impossible I would say.
Anyway, you leave out a couple of crucial facts about 1920s and 1930s Germany. First the economy. You’re right. It’s hard for those of us under the age of about 75 to understand what it’s like living in conditions of utter economic chaos, with constant disruptions, bread lines, unemployement lines, fist fights at unemployement lines (my father was actually old enough to remember and tell me about that one, which he witnessed), not just retirement accounts, but life savings wiped away in a matter of hours. Even more ominously, there was mass violence everywhere, with Communists and Fascists battling each other and killing each other in the streets. So, yeah, I would say it’s kind of tough for most of us today, esp. in this country where there are no bullet holes left in walls (as in Berlin and St. Petersburg, e.g.,) and scars in cities (as in most UK cities like Bristol, etc.) to remind us of these things.
But, you know, there is ONE thing we do kind of share: the culture wars which has roots in Germany, but not the 30s. Rather the term Kulturkämpfe has roots in the Bismarckian era. There’s a dangerous splitting, as there was in Germany from unification up to the aftermath of the collapse of Weimar governmen, between society into factions, which refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the other. That’s dangerous and can be seen in the vitriol in the policital discourse of the day.
By the way, about Obama not showing “as much” vitriol as Hitler, that’s nonsense. Obama shows NO vitriol in the sense displayed by that man, who spewed it in the most vile forms whether he was terrorizing in the streets, at a podium, or in a jail cell.
No comparison at all, Ted. So let’s get that one straight, OK?
By Fly_on_the_Wall
November 11, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Wow, what a day! I’ve never seen so much crud being put forth on this blog before and all on ‘speculation’ about someone. This truly the Rovian way of doing business - projection - project your weakness & faults on the other side and then claim they are the ones with the problem. All the Righty-tighties are in a bunch because of what Bush did over the last 8 years and now they are projecting that on Obama and he’s not even taken office yet! Amazing and sad all at the same time. At least we have FACTS for our rantings!
By Shawny
November 11, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
The Dennis Kucinich of GA. So what, another kook.
Next story please…..
By NorthwestWhiteGuy
November 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Nobody scares white trash like a really smart black man.
By Standing Firm
November 11, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Representative Paul Broun’s statement in context is legitimate. Obama’s voting record, political statements, lifelong associations with radical leftists and the response by many of his followers on this blog convince me even more that Representative Broun expressed a concern that needed to be expressed.
By Claire
November 11, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
I just want to know, if I say “OBAMA LIED”, is someone going to come to my house and persecute me? It’s been quite acceptable and pop culture to say “BUSH LIED” for 8 years. And that mantra was based on WMDs (which he had intelligence evidence that they were there, and they were used before - look up THE KURDS people) … there are direct contradictions on the record for things Obama has said which were LIES. Obama said his parents met during Selma march — 4 years after he was born! And he just gets a pass on these lies? Seriously, this is just one simple example .. it’s in his book for crying out loud.
When President Bush won re-election 4 years ago by a 1% margin, headlines read “Country Divided”. When Obama won with barely a 2% margin, the headlines read “Country United” … 1% makes that much of a difference?
By steve
November 11, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
The only thing sadder than this comment by Broun is that 1/2 the people taking a poll on Aol.com thought that Broun “had a point”. Wow!
By gadem
November 11, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Larry Grizzle, you know what they say about a*-umptions, but I digress. I am a Christian, and proud that I am a Christian. I believe that we are all CHILDREN OF GOD regardless of our skin color. I believe that Christ died for my sins as well as yours. I believe that when we get to heaven that there will be no color…however while we are on earth, we have to deal with small minded xenophobic people that are afraid of losing power that they really do not have. The conservatives in charge have bait and switched you guys so much it is not even funny. Every year, their platform is gays, guns, and abortion. No sane person wants gays to marry…it is against the BIBLE to be homosexual in my humble opinion. No one is going to take away the right to own guns…except maybe an AK-47 or high powered assault rifle. And the abortion law will never be changed…those are just the facts, yet year after year, you guys fall for the old okey doke…When you get to heaven and JESUS is BLACK, will you turn around?
By Dick
November 11, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
This is a good balance. He is hoping that it is not true. I hope that we are not like the Germans were with Hitler. That we look at all the chances for danger and avoid them. If he is not going to use this civilian force for his purposes then what is the purpose? I have to agree with Broun that we need to keep our guard up just in case. I hope God will bless America again!
By jules
November 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Gadem, has no one pointed out to you that you’ve already been disemboweled and buried? Why do you persist in posting yet more somphomoric disjointed rambling? My advice, go have that nap. You’re ready! No doubt you’ll back up and try another run at it, with yet more asides about GOD and white men. You might think about tackling a job nearer your (intellectual) size. Give this up as much too big for you. Now, run along and let the adults talk. If you require any more attention, just beat your spoon on your highchair.
By Standing Firm
November 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
Representative Paul Broun’s statement in context is legitimate. Obama’s voting record, political statements, lifelong associations with radical leftists and the response by many of his followers on this blog convince me even more that Representative Broun expressed a concern that needed to be expressed.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
Fly, what facts would those be the misrepresented lines that Bookman puked up in the opening.
Because if those are facts to you, then I am curious as to what your example of a lie or a non-truth is.
Read other sources people. Bookman destroys the comments to support his liberally biased belief that all who think different than him are racist.
As much as Bookman attributes to race it seems as if he has some racial demons himself he may need to deal with.
Just remember that every-one’s motives are not race based as Jim’s are.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
OKAY, OKAY, OKAY
I can’t handle the torture….I’ll fess up.
Yes, we are secretly creating the Order of Obama
We’ve been at it for 21 months now. All us commie, pinko, socialist, libs are members. (We were not really having we hate America meetings….we were drilling and marching and picking out trendy matching outfits for the order)
You saw that gun sales are up after the election? Well, that ain’t us. We use super soakers filled with red koolaid. And we have secret, devious uses for silly putty.
We have targeted Andy, The Corporal, RB, RW, tcoach. We have been staking out your homes. Hiding in mailboxes and behind fences. We are talking to your wives and girlfriends and mothers.
We are slipping bribes to your barbers, payoffs to your pool boys, money to your maids and graft to your gutter cleaners.
It is our intention to ship you all off to our Gitmo-suites resort, after we empty it out. Free travel from the Order of Obama!
We are going to take away all of your assets. Your money is going directly to crack addicts. Your homes are being turned into boarding houses for brown skinned illegal immigrants from all your favorite terrorist locales. We are selling your families into slavery in the Mariannas (heads uo to Hot Tub Tom!). We are taking your dogs away, because you just don’t deserve mans best friend, and replacing them with under nourished badgers.
We are passing out your credit cards to teenage girls and dropping them off at Lenox.
We are going to put runs in your panty hose!
We are planning to replace SEC football with chess tournaments!
We will also be taking away your butter. It’s margarine from here on in for you detainettes!
Whenever you look over your shoulder - we will be there. Whenever you look under your bed - we will be there. Whenever you open your closet some of us will come out! (Dressing ever so specially!)
Long Live the O of O!!!
See, now don’t you feel better knowing thr truth?
Y’all don’t need any stinkin’ rights…. we let you have them briefly, but you made a mess of it so - bye-bye!
By Standing Firm
November 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Representative Paul Broun’s statement in context is legitimate. Obama’s voting record, political statements, lifelong associations with radical leftists and the response by many of his followers on this blog convince me even more that Representative Broun expressed a concern that needed to be expressed.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Well said, gadem:
I am a Christian, and proud that I am a Christian. I believe that we are all CHILDREN OF GOD regardless of our skin color. I believe that Christ died for my sins as well as yours. I believe that when we get to heaven that there will be no Color.
As Paul said: In that new creation there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free man, but Christ is everything and is in all of us. Colossians 3:11
But don’t forget, gadem, that what you’re saying goes not just for heaven, but for while we’re on earth too. (That especially.)
By jst
November 11, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
It’s ironic to me that there are numerous complaints about what people THINK the pres-elect means when he talks about the formation of civilian groups, but they think nothing at all about civilian vigilante forces (e.g. the Texas Minutemen) we already have. Well, sure, a common argument goes, we need such groups to keep the borders safe from homeless and starving families who mean to enter our country for ill-gotten reasons: to stay alive. So I’m wondering, does asking u.s. citizens to serve border patrol qualify as marxist thinking?
By leni
November 11, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Do not go gentle into that dystopia
By Isaac
November 11, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Why do christians worry about what some leader is going to do. Remember the words to that song, “This world is not my home, I’m just a passing through”? When will christians realize that they are simply ambassadors of Christ and they shouldnt be anymore concerned about local/national politics than they would if they were a soldier in a foreign country. As a christian, remember what the natives of Sodom said to Lot when he tried to tell them what to do. Do your job and be not of this world. If you have time to be politicking then you are not keeping busy with your calling.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Mrs Godzilla tell me what I messed up!
You make these claims all the freakin time tell me what I messed up. This is not the first time.
Show yourself for the prjudice, bigoted, hard headed fool that you are.
You pretend to know things about me, yet you know nothing. Also what have I said that is in any way paranoid delusions. That is how you portray it, so one would assume you have proof, or are you the kid in school who says teh teacher is out to get them with no proof.
You claim to be informed but you are not. You claim to be balanced but you are not. The only thing you are is filled with hate and contempt for those who happen to think differnet than you.
I have never accused any of what you claim. Never said Obama was going to take over the nation. I have had little to say about the comments by Broun other than those directed at Bookman for lying to all of us.
So unless you got some proof that I did anything to cause anything shut up!
I understand your right feel however you may, why is it you feel the need to insult others that wish to express their opinion?
How sad the life you must live!
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Representative Paul Broun’s statement in context is legitimate. … Broun expressed a concern that needed to be expressed.
Well said, Standing Firm. And those who heard it have drawn the conclusions that need to be drawn, which is well expressed in today’s NY Times:
Fear of the politician with the unusual name and look did not end with last Tuesday’s vote in this rural red swatch where buck heads and rifles hang on the wall. This corner of the Deep South still resonates with negative feelings about the race of President-elect Barack Obama.
What may have ended on Election Day, though, is the centrality of the South to national politics.
That sums it up prett well, don’t you think, Standing Firm?
I do, and I think Rep. Broun’s statement only serves as a comical coda - a final exclamation mark - on the whole situation.
By Midori
November 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G — you’re a HOOT
LOL!!
:)
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
tcoach
we don’t let whiners in.
delusion paranoids either.
lighten up dude.
you need 25 cc’s of hope right away!
and every day for the next 8 years.
By Rick Richardson
November 11, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I find it ironic that Broun and his apologists who fear the President-Elect’s supposed Nazi tendencies are in-step with the modern day Hitlerites. All Broun and his supporters need are a good headshave and an armband. Both groups seem to hate and fear a Black President.
By Robert
November 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
“First they came for the Communists, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn�t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.”
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
ROTFLMAO!
I just wish Buy Donut was here to read that.
She was convinced there was an islamofascist behind every bush.
Well at least in Michigan.
The girly-men of the right wing, as exemplified by this “sunshine patriot” from Athens, with their extreme, irrational distrust of imaginary bogeymen are finally at the point that no one is going to take them seriously, save their mini-army of drones on talk radio…
By Goldie
November 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Yep — I believe it’s time that the ole USofA allows some the southern states to go ahead and secede from the Union. It’s way too much headache to try and keep the insanity in check with some of these people.
And as soon as the housing market turns around again, I’m heading up to North Carolina where the majority of Americans are rational thinkers!
By jst
November 11, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Bravo, Mrs. G., on the humor, which, as the immortal Steve Martin confessed years ago, ain’t always pretty to everyone. You’re almost as funny as this other comedian I was reading the other day. Coulter something. I think it’s pronounced col-TAIRE, like col-BEAR. Man, is she ever wacky.
By jst
November 11, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Bravo, Mrs. G., on the humor, which, as the immortal Steve Martin confessed years ago, ain’t always pretty to everyone. You’re almost as funny as this other comedian I was reading the other day. Coulter something. I think it’s pronounced col-TAIRE, like col-BEAR. Man, is she ever wacky.
By HistoryBook
November 11, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Hey Bookman,
Try referring to a thing cited in you own name, a BOOK. Maybe even a History Book. I suppose Broun drawing parallels to Hitler’s youth brigades and other marxist-fascist-nazi-like civilian forces are so far-fecthed and crazy b/c history is so ridiculously far-fetched and baseless. Maybe history doesn’t exist and Broun made it up?
You are the crazy, ignorant, disgraceful “journalist” (if i should even credit you that title). You and people like you are our problem.
So again, try checking a BOOK in the future before you write crap.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Midori
Did you get your
Order of Obama jumpsuit yet?
I think “pinko” is a great color on you!
I’m going to start working on my merit badges.
Which first I wonder?
Undermining Cristianity? Destroying Heterosexual Marriage? or Scaring the shiite out of the 25%?
Suggestions?
O of O 4Ever
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
JAY BOOKMAN, WHERE WERE YOU WHEN CYNTHIA MCKINNY CALLED BUSH, HITLER? WHERE WERE YOU WHEN DICK DURBAN COMPARED OUR TROOPS TO NAZIS? WHERE WERE YOU WHEN WHEN JOHN F. KERRY SAID THAT OUR TROOPS TERRORIZED IRAQI WOMEN AND CHILDREN? ANSWER: NO WHERE!!!!!
The media is and always will be in the tank for Obama and the democrat party. Obama just yesterday said that he wanted to RULE from day one. R-U-L-E! Last time I checked, the presidents job was to GOVERN!
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
Goldie….
You may have noticed I outed the O of O here a few minutes ago. They tirtured it out of me….I swear!
As one of our senior patrol leaders can you forgive me?
Is this worse than when I taught Paul the secret handshake?
By WRH
November 11, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
Hey Bookman,
Try referring to a thing cited in you own name, a BOOK. Maybe even a History Book. I suppose Broun drawing parallels to Hitler’s youth brigades and other marxist-fascist-nazi-like civilian forces are so far-fecthed and crazy b/c history is so ridiculously far-fetched and baseless. Maybe history doesn’t exist and Broun made it up?
You are the crazy, ignorant, disgraceful “journalist” (if i should even credit you that title). You and people like you are our problem.
So again, try checking a BOOK in the future before you write crap.
By Robert
November 11, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
“First they came for the Communists, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn�t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.”
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G, Why would I want in I try very hard to not associate with bigots and hate mongers. Both of which you are. You have no room for others opinions in your life that is fine, live a life of hate for your fellow man.
I see now all of your talk of compassion and 1 nation is a lie, one you have told so many time that you have began to believe it as truth.
Look at your post, even when a person who you do not agree with says something decent and right you attack.
So why should I calm down you attack me, and put my name in something and then tell me to calm down.
Keep on hating everything different and soon you will see that it is you who is different.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
You seem agrieved about something, BOOK man.
Whatever could that be?
You speak of history and books. Maybe Jay couldn’t research up on some of this stuff because the Nazis tried to burn them all, huh?
Oh, but then again, history books are written by the victors and that’s us. So we’re OK there.
Your sense of grievance makes you pretty easy to read, History BOOK man: I mean, it’s pretty easy to see that you’re a man of the right, no (sorry, you rant like a man, I can’t help it)?
But what don’t you try letting us in our your view of things like a reasonable and civilized persion, that way we won’t have to judge you by the cover and find you wanting, huh History BOOK man?
By Scott Mc
November 11, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
Examine the facts before you go spouting off your liberal talking points. Yes… it’s outrageous and sounds crazy to compare Obama to Hitler. But if the facts support the comparison, so be it. Don’t just dismiss the claim without considering the facts behind the claim. Obama has publicly promoted wealth redistribution for the “common good” (comparable to the Nazi wealth redistribution and “social mobility” policies), the creation of a national civilian security force (comparable to Hitler’s SA “Brown Shirts”), radical youth training programs like “Public Action” in Chicago (comparable to the “Hitler Youth”), suppression of the Freedom of Speech through a revised “Fairness Doctrine” and unreasonable FCC licensing restrictions, redefining the 2nd Amendment to restrict personal gun ownership, and restriction on free trade and commerce. Obama’s rise to power through charisma and rhetoric that promotes classism and a call for “social justice” is strikingly similar to Hitler’s rise. Keep in mind that Hitler rose to power in a Democratic nation and enjoyed fanatical support. It was only later that his true evil intentions became known.
It’s ok to be ignorant of the truth… but don’t be willfully ignorant. Examine the facts.
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
“Has Obama ever proposed a national security force that’s answering to just the President. If not, case closed. If so, yikes!”
Jay
I think even you are starting to realize this is a little creepy. You know what an issue this would have caused if spouted by McCain.
By White, Female
November 11, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Most of my life I’ve always considered myself a Republican, But I grew up in Arlington, Virginia. I now reside in a small town in Oregon and my son-in-law is a very wonderful black ma, 21 years old, smart and strong with good ethical values who loves my daughter and is a good man. He cannot fine a job in this town because he’s black. When I go in to a place with a sign for hiring outside, they say “their hiring” and when he goes in they say “there’s a freeze on hiring right now.” I voted for Obama because I know he’s the ONE who can make the changes we need in this country. and Yes - God is in control, not us!
By Peadawg
November 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
It amazes me how people still defend Obama’s actions when the facts are clear as daylight.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
tcoach
make that 50 cc’s of hope
and a spoonful of humor
we may need to rush you to the HOPEspital…..
By getalife
November 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
President Obama’s first conspiracy theory and he has not served one day yet.
These paranoid kooks should keep an eye on the bailout instead of bashing the new President not sworn in yet.
By Duke
November 11, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
In his famous autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama reveals that his earliest mentor in Hawaii was a man by the name of Frank Marshall Davis. It so happens that Davis had been sent to Hawaii in the late 1940s by the Communist Party to organize the party in Hawaii.
Davis had begun his communist career in Chicago. He was a friend and associate of Paul Robeson, the great singer, and Harry Bridges, head of the communist dominated International Longshoremen and Warehousemen’s Union. Both men were secret Communist Party USA members.
Upon graduation from high school, Barack attended Occidental College in Los Angeles. He writes in his autobiography: “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. … We discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism and patriarchy.”
Barack was chosen by Illinois State Sen. Alice Palmer to succeed her. Palmer had been on the executive board of the U.S. Peace Council, identified by the FBI as a front organization for the Communist Party USA and affiliate of the Soviet front World Peace Council. According to an article in the Black Press Review, Palmer attended the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and came away favorably impressed by the Soviet system. The fact that she chose Barack to succeed her indicates that she had full confidence he would continue to advance her leftist agenda.
Obama’s main sponsor in Chicago is Bill Ayers, unrepentant Weatherman bomber from the 1960’s. In an interview published in the New York Times on 09/11/01, Ayers said his only regret was he did not do enough. The announcement of Obama’s entrance into Illinois politics was made by Senator Palmer to a small group of power players at Ayers home. Today Ayers is a radical professor of education reform. He freely admits he is a communist. He speaks openly of his desire to use America’s public school classrooms to train a generation of revolutionaries who will overturn the U.S. social and economic regime. He teaches that America is oppressive and unjust, socialism is the solution, and wealth and resources should be redistributed. Ayers’s political views are as radical now as they were in the 1970s. “Viva President Chavez!” he exclaimed in a speech in Venezuela in 2006, in which he also declared, “Education is the motor-force of revolution.” He was in Venezuela to study how Chavez used education to implement his communist revolution.
Ayers founded Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and ran its operational arm. He recruited Obama to be the first chairman of CAC in 1995. Ayers never would have let Obama hold that post unless he had perfect confidence in his communist sympathies. Obama’s main job was to disperse millions of dollars in education grants to Ayers and his communist colleagues.
A main idea of the U. S. Constitution is to keep law enforcement local. It is illegal for the President to use the U. S. military in domestic situations. The reason is to prevent tyranny. Congressman Braun is absolutely right. The appointment of a national security force is exactly what the communists and the Nazis did. They confiscate guns, and repeal the death penalty. Then citizens cannot defend themselves against the thugs, and revolutionaries can commit terrible mass atrocities without fear of execution. They simply lounge around in prison until the revolution succeeds.
I don’t know which would be worse, Bookman: that you are so corrupt to lie about this, or so incompetent that you really don’t know about it.
By Fly_on_the_Wall
November 11, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Wow, what a day! I’ve never seen so much crud being put forth on this blog before and all on ‘speculation’ about someone. This truly the Rovian way of doing business - projection - project your weakness & faults on the other side and then claim they are the ones with the problem. All the Righty-tighties are in a bunch because of what Bush did over the last 8 years and now they are projecting that on Obama and he’s not even taken office yet! Amazing and sad all at the same time. At least we have FACTS for our rantings!
By Swami Dave
November 11, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Soix:
I would be happy to discuss philosophy from within any historical context that you choose. However, there are basic truths that should be guiding principles regardless of your historical context.
Regardless of the filter you choose, I would propose that it is wrong to take something that belongs to one person to give it to another without an exchange in value. That, regardless of context, is theft. Marxism (and its derivatives) represent a philosophy based on theft at its core. Whether predicated on assumption of need or the simple jealous nature of “I-want-what-he-has”, it represents taking from one for the benefit of the other without permission or exchange of value. Likewise, the sad reality is that it keeps adding new adherents with each successive generation who try to “evolve” it. The historical failures of Marxism and its derivatives is not due to “bad implementation”; it is due to the fact that it is wrong and dishonest at its core.
The shameful point is that so many who espouse its philosophy recognize that it is doomed to perpetual failure (as are those who are unfortunately most dependent upon it), but continue to attempt to make it policy as a means to acquire power.
-Swami Dave
By BeSkeptical
November 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Hey Bookman you shill, all Broun is saying is that Obama appears to be a socialist. Why does that threaten you? Why do all you liberals throw tantrums when you are called “liberals” or “socialist”? It is what you are, why not embrace it? I can not remember you saying anything about Cynthia McKinney when she made her numerous insane and partisan remarks, why not? Go back and review you fascist throughout history and realize they came from the left (in the 20s the lefties idolized Mussolini) and then say “oh but it couls never happen here”. You are a joke.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Scott Mc,
They think it is agame to be won or lost, therefor it is not about facts, as shown today.
To them it is only about making sure their “team” wins, and they will resist all facts as long as that helps their team.
They are not for whatever is best for America they are for their side.
I am not saying they are anti-American. Actually the opposite, they are very American it is our right to say what we wish, we do not have to make sense or anything. As long as we are not putting the public in harms way by our words they are protected.
Many of them actually think they are doing what is best for America, and they may be I am only a citizen. However their difference is they have tuned out all who do not share their views. Also meaning that if any of US question them WE are attacked for it. They do not care that their is easy connections to be made, nor do they care about what the congressman said.
They are only looking for ways to promote their cause.
Guess you have proven yourself to be hypocrites these last 8 years because you all sure had a voice of paranoia then. Guess it is inconcievable that Obama is not PERFECT in everyway. He is only human you all do know it is possible for him to be wrong, don’t you?
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Hey Duke….Is your first name David?
You sound just like ‘im.
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
What’s the problem here?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html
Everyone is just getting ready for the National Security Force !
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSTRE4AA4N220081111
Get ready Obama. Israel is getting reay to “lower the boom**.
What will your response be ??
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
y’all remind me never to link margarine and tcoach in the same post.
don’t want the poor kid to pop a artery.
By AlG
November 11, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
Broun’s comments are pretty crass, but I don’t remember Jay ever taking anyone to task for calling Bush a nazi.
By mark
November 11, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
If the rest of Congress is as idiotic as Broun we’re really screwed.
We’re really screwed.
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/President44/story?id=6223143&page=1
Now this is scary !
Stepford constituents !
By The Ghetto Prophet
November 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Damn obama! He’s going to paint the white house black & put a bar-b-que grill on the front lawn! He’s a con-artist in every sense of the word! Where’s the so called CHANGE @? jay bookman is just another white boy with guilt in his heart so he will say anything to please the black man! ATTENTION: ALL WHITE PEOPLE WHO FEEL GUILTY ABOUT HISTORY……………GET OVER IT! I don’t need your pity party nor your front man (o-go-to-hell-bama)! You wanna do something for the black man, Honor the Constitution for what it stands for and stay the f*** out of my way! Real men don’t need pity they need opportunity & self respect! Damn universal healthcare & high taxes! Welfare is for those who have worked & supported this country! They should CHANGE the name from welfare to Gratitude!
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, You’ve just proven yourself to be a total moron. Duke presented facts and you call him a racist. You truly are an idiot. Go sell stupid somewhere else.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Duke, don’t be dense, now, or you’re gonna get called out for pushing lies.
You state: Ayers founded Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and ran its operational arm.
Ayers was one of three original grant recipients which came from the Annenberg foundation. Annenberg himself was affiliated with the Republican party.
Now, when you get dusted off, maybe you can get back on your horse and ride more carefully next time.
By rb
November 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
This gentleman is a US Congressman. He is well aware of the daunting task the Secret Service now has protecting Senator Obama.
The Secret Service noted a serious spike in death threats against Senator Obama coinciding with Governor Palin’s rallies where she began to accuse Senator Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” The Secret Service approached both campaigns with this information. This was the precise reason we saw Senator McCain correct that lady who called Senator Obama an Arab.
We as Americans all know that there are neo-nazi psychopaths in this country who armed to the teeth and are frothing at the mouth to kill the President-Elect. There are many Timothy McVie’s spread across this country. We now have all these Sean Hannitys taking to the air waves and are knowingly pushing these armed maniacs to the breaking point.
For a U S Congressman to be engaging in this rhetoric when he knows very well that his words will only further strain the very difficult job the Secret Service is now faced with is unconscionable. Paul Broun is now recklessly endangering the lives of our future President, his family, and those men and women whose job it is to protect him.
By Jen
November 11, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Thank God for someone like Rep. Broun with the COURAGE to speak THE TRUTH. Anyone who has done any background work on Obama at all knows that he was tutored by a high official of the Communist Party of Hawaii from about ages 10-18, has attended numerous socialist meetings over the years (by his own words), and has many plans for our great country that are socialistic, including his plans for a civilian security force (which he mentioned in Colorado on July 2, 2008). I wish more people had listened before the election but it’s not too late.
By Edward C
November 11, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Fear mongering is peculiarly Republican.
By Abomi Nation
November 11, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
Top 10 Signs Obama is a Nazi
Ten- He doesn’t wear a flag pin.
Nine- He does the Nazi fist bump.
Eight- A “soon to be released” video shows him laughing with Hitler.
Seven- Thinks Jesse Owens injected steroids.
Six- Lived close to Pearl Harbor.
Five- Once ordered split pea from the Soup Nazi.
Four- Sometimes sympathized with Colonel Klink.
Three- Didn’t take any questions from Fox News reporters.
Two- Didn’t answer Sen Larry Craig’s (R) secret message/question, “Tap,tap,tappity,taptap,” while using Senate restroom.
One- Plans on replacing Bush’s White House Little League field with a basketball court.
By Sowega
November 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
An early poster asked why our representatives keep doing this. It’s simple. Legislative districts are drawn to absolutely unchangeable politically. Why did you think the repubs wanted federal oversight to end?
Personally, I think all districts should be drawn to make every race an even fight. No doubt the more capable folks will be going to Washington. They’d have to possess a little common sense, or they’d never make it past the primaries.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G, Do you feel like a big person now because you make lite of being a bigot. Hooray you are what is wrong with relations between Americans Yah. Your words do not bother me any longer as you have shown yourself to be a bigot and one who judges others, before you even know them. You are the kind of people I try not to associate with as you normally bring down my spirits. I can only have interaction with those filled with hate so long before I begin to get that hate feeling too. But your impressions of a middle school girl are dead on.
By S in Gainesville
November 11, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
I guess more of you want to live in fantasy land than in reality. A “citizen service” that answers to the big O only? all the while, as strong as the military? I dont think so adolf! Check your history people.. a force that answers to one person? we have had that already.. they were called “brownshirts”. I will respect ANY person as the president. I will not respect a person who tries the breakdown the U.S. Constitution / Bill of Rights!
By cyndi
November 11, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
Why can’t something be reported without all the liberal maniacs, oh i mean “media” slanting everything. So this representative commented, and therefore what? The last time I checked, this was STILL a democracy. We are entitled and encourage to have free speech. Think about it
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Why the OOO?
Cus ladies like 3 big o’s!
Commie AJC
Stooopid is free.
And you got what you paid for.
What’s amazing to me is….
tossing fear around lost them the election and still they try.
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Soixante huitard, ANNENBERG HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE THE GRANTS WENT AND TO WHOM THEY WENT TO. BY THE WAY, DUKE WROTE WHAT IS IN OBAMA HUSSEINS BOOK. WHAT LIES ARE YOU SPEAKING OF? ALSO, TERRESA HEINZ KERRY WAS MARRIED TO HEINZ THE REPUBLICAN. DO YOU THINK THAT HEINZ KNEW AHEAD OF TIME THAT HIS EX-WIFE WOULD BE GIVING HIS MONEY TO THE DEMOCRATS? GO SELL STUPID SOMEWHERE ELSE HACK!
By Duane
November 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
This idiot probably sided with J. Edgar Hoover in labeling Dr. King a Communist. You Republicans won the battle (Georgia), but lost the war. Get over it and do your part to help restore America.
By GodHatesTrash
November 11, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Gosh - Backwoods Broun, Chickenhawk Chambliss, Little Lynnie Westmoreland - all in the running for National Embarrassment of the Year, and all three from Georgia!
Sarah Palin is going to be hard to beat, boys, but you are really trying!
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, Did mommy drop you on your head one too many times? Speak English, dragon lady! You played the race card when race wasn’t a factor. Calling someone David Duke because they posted what is in Obama Husseins book is a bit idiotic.
By JoeSmart@ss
November 11, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Obama is President..
NOW SUCK IT UP CHUMPS!
(I love it!)
By JackLeg
November 11, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Where will all you left wing nuts be when you find out that U.S. Rep. Paul Broun was right? Oh that’s right you will be collecting your welfare checks from the government.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Funny Mrs. G, I did not know it was possible to win or lose an election if you are not running for office.
So I guess you are talking to the republican party. But do not know too many who would say that Broun is a leader of that party. So I guess you are just wrong again.
By diane
November 11, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
Who cares, look at all the crap Rev Wright said about America and Obama did nothing in his 20 years in the pews to voice his opposition. Get over it, Obama showed President Bush no respect, why should he get any.
By Ayn Rand was Right
November 11, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Does anyone else find it interesting that Mr. Bookman demands a polite banter on his blog. He insists that others offer respect with their opinions, then he posts a twisted version of a somewhat disturbing quote, in order to whip up the masses. All of the spewing and ranting and posturing on this blog is ridiculous. The man made a statement that would call into question his understanding of the current climate and the power of the press at best.
Mr. Bookman, your need to embellish Mr. Brouns statement lessened the impact of that statement. By making him out to be a sheet wearing good ol’ boy straight from the 1950’s, you’ve allowed thinking Atlantans (and other readers) to actually inspect the statement. Knowing exactly what he said without your contribution, it didn’t impress me as much of a statement. However, your need to vilify the right in this case diminishes the negative impact you were reaching to achieve. I realize that this is an opinion page, but offer your opinion on the facts, do not change the facts to support your opinion.
We should all begin to consider what is in it for us. As we move into the next year, we have a new administration with very different ideas from the last. Some believe this is great, some believe it is the end of days, most believe we have hired an inspirational person who is not tested and are cautiously watching as we entrust him with our future. I caution each of you to consider your behavior and opinions and ask yourselves what is in it for me. If the ranting and raving or fretting and fuming is working out for you, fine, keep it up. If you want a better community, country or world, then suck it up and move in the direction of being a better member of your community, country or world.
By jst
November 11, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
S in Gainesville, calm down and stop fearmongering.It’s 2008, the sky’s not falling, Russia’s not invading - and if they were, Sarah Palin would call from her back porch and tell us - and Georgia is 10th in the BCS, so things are almost right with the world. Now if we just beat auburn and tech … .
By jst
November 11, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
S in Gainesville, calm down and stop fearmongering.It’s 2008, the sky’s not falling, Russia’s not invading - and if they were, Sarah Palin would call from her back porch and tell us - and Georgia is 10th in the BCS, so things are almost right with the world. Now if we just beat auburn and tech … .
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
To rb:
I can assure you the Secret Service knows the difference between:
1) free political speech (which is anyone’s right and duty even if it is harsh)
2) an implied threat (which will get you investigated and in the Secret Service’s computer)
3) and a direct threat (which will get you prosecuted).
Conservative free speech is just as important as your liberal free speech and if will NOT be stifled !
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
Dammit! Sigh.
Okay, since it’s out and all that, and we DIDN’T discuss this in our last meeting, I am NOT wearing a pink jumpsuit, got it?
No pink jumpsuits. Pink makes my butt look big. It washes out my complexion and makes does nothing for my blue eyes and blonde hair (you know, the true Aryan features).
If you slip up with the password, I’m coming over there and Joe and I will have to have a “talk” with you. That whole thing with the cell phone in the Dr. Pepper? That was ME! I told Joe I was worried about you.
Hey, has anyone talked to Ayers lately? I hear he’s giving interviews and all that, we may have to handle him a little better.
By Get It Right
November 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Rep. Broun’s comments about the very real possibility of a Marxist Obama are ALMOST as scary as the ACTIONS of Rep George Miller (D-CA) for looking into the viability of siezing our 401k accounts to, quoting “Karl” Obama, “share the wealth”.
Why would we ever expect Bookman to look at any situation with even the slightest bit of joulalistic skepticism. He isn’t a journalist. He works for Obama.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
tcoach
I’m watchin’ you…..BOO!
By Pat
November 11, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
Haaaa haaaaaah aaaaahhhhh ooohhh ahhhhhaa bahoaaaaaaa! haaaaah whoooooo haaaaa Broun and you fools crack me up, Haaaaa what a bunch of sheet wearing knockleheads haaaaa haaa Nazi ??? no wait A Black Nazi haaaaa huooooo haaaa ahaaa A BLACK NAZI haaaaaahaaaaaaa
Paul broun is STUPID! THIS HAS JUST PUSHED REPUBLICANS BACK 45 YEARS.
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
tcoach
I’m watchin’ you…..BOO!
commieAJC
just cause you are a commie too, don’t mean you get to join the Order of Obama.
and beggin’ won’t help.
By Lee
November 11, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
As you read Mr. Bookman’s article you find several lies in it. Mr. Broun did not call Mr. Obama a Fascist or a Communist.
He merely stated that Obama was propos-ing the same thing that Hitler and Stalin did in taking over their country. This is not unusual for left-leaning journalist. They find lying much more fun than telling the truth.
Also, Mr. Bookman is just trying to save his own neck. When Hitler took over Germany,the first thing he did was to get rid newspersons that did not agree with his methods.
When the communist took over Russia and China and Cambodia the first thing they did was to kill teachers that would not teach their Doctrines.
Of course, we do not have to worry about that happening today in the U.S., the press is already in Obama’s back pocket, and the teachers are already regurgitating the Democratic lies to our children.
By jst
November 11, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Um, Getitright - That’s why his writing is in the OPINION section and not NEWS. And you’re upset about what, exactly?
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
And yet,
All this talk about Obama being a Marxist (whatever the hell that means in regards to a single political thought) not one word about the bailout blunder - the Treasury Dept. is being sued so that we can know who our money is going to, how the money is being used, on-going parties by the executives, not to mention their big fat bonuses are still on -
This is still the Bush administration people. Obama isn’t the POTUS yet. He’ll take care of it (or he better).
By LFR12
November 11, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Obama wants to arm civilians with better funding than our military enjoys? That’s some scary shi-t Bookman!
During WWII it was a patriotic duty offered up by citizens at NO COST. Obama thinks patriotism must be bought NOW?
In these last days of our individual freedom, it will be patriotism of Obama, by Obama and for Obama.
In June, Obama said “A strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably.”
Those who cannot survive independent of government will sell their souls and votes to the highest bidder.
A strong government hand has just been placed around America’s throat.
God save our republic!
By BDAtlanta
November 11, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Funny…
Conservatives and the GOP drove this country into the sewer and they’re screaming that Obama is going to make things worse.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
And I think we need to find that actor who played Horseshack on Welcome Back Kotter - since our symbol is
“O O O”
Ya think?
By wizard
November 11, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Jay - Hitler also had the media engaged in character assassination on anyone who opposed his ideas; in the beginning of his reign. Once he had complete power, he then just exterminated you with the SS. You alluded to Braun being a racist when he simply was voicing concern over a National Security force the likes this country has never seen. Marxists and Facists historically have removed dissent by force - it is a fact. I think Braun is pointing out similarites to ideas in Obama’s speeches. What do we really know about this man? The purpose of the media is to protect the citizenry through sunlight and disinfectant. Exposing, informing and reporting the facts - you and your ilk have failed miserably in this responsibility. How do you look in the mirror and like what you see? You have become an empty puppet for the power mongers. The death of shame has ruined your profession. I look forward to the next earnings report for the AJC and the Cox Family. I pray its riddled with massive losses!!!
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Bosch….
For you we have basic black…..you know that color scares some folks and it’s so slimming.
You and Joe behind my back!
%%##$$))*&^$% Damn !
You “dog” you!
Now get busy and steal Get It Rights 401K.
The Order of Obama we gonna’ take your stuff!
By Duke
November 11, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, you are typical of your class, incapable of engaging an argument based on reason and evidence. Let me guess. You are a college professor, right?
By reasonable
November 11, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
I will try again to introduce a little sanity to these blogs. 1. Hitler was no a Marxist, in fact as a Nazi he wanted to kill off Marxists as many of them wished to do to him. His political philosophy and that of the Marxists were on the opposite end of the political spectrum. 2. The President-elect is not a Marxist nor has he ever been one. He is frankly a member of the liberal sector of the Democratic Party. And before some folks start equating liberals with marxists - they are not the same. Also sorry to inform some of you, who while citing learning history clearly do not know it, most, if not all, of our founders were liberals by any reasonable interpretation. In fact, they were actually revolutionaries. 3. The President-elect’s speech in question actually referred to beefing up such “radical concepts” as the Peace Corps and the Foreign Service (part of the State Department) as well as civic service as part of an attempt to reinstall some sense of civic responsibility, a goal of many members of both the Democratic and Republican Party. Before pontificating on things upon which you are obviously ill-informed, do something novel, actually read the speech in question, not some snippet on an internet video or YouTube, or some vile posting on one of the many and odious blogs that plague the internet. 4. The comments of the Congressman, in any light, invite the ridicule he has justly earned among sane Democrats and Republicans. Such comments are alo dangerous as they have a tendency to inflame unstable minds that plague our population from both ends of the spectrum. This, of course, does not even consider the fact that such statements tend to reinforce the negative sterotype of the South from the days of H.L. Mencken with his “Sahara of the Bozart.” As a lifelong southerner, I had hoped we had gotten past that stage, sadly, I see that we have not. 5. As a historian with a Ph.D. in history, I do know a little about our nation’s history and quite frankly, I am appalled at the ignorance of history shown by some bloggers. Equating our nation’s first African-American president with some sort of poorly defined ideological pretension that is outside the norm of American politics is really designed to do little more than attempt to delegitimize him. That is exceedingly dangerous ground and an area where reasonable people should not go. 6. Reasonable people in both parties can and do disagree with many of the President-elect’s positions and policies. That is in the time-honored tradition of our country’s political system. Disagree, if you must, but please base it on facts as to what the man actually said, stands for, and believes, not some vague hysteria based upon rumors and misleading characterizations.
By RB from Gwinnett
November 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
tcoach, don’t bother with G. She spouts off here every day and if you challenge her to produce facts to support her claims, she resorts to name calling. Same story every day.
BTW, G, what lost the election for McCain was a combination of a biased media and the fact he didn’t promise the deadbeats in this country enough of the evil rich man’s money. That is the only campaign promise the average D voter knows and that was the difference. They weren’t voting for change, they were voting for cash.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G, You getting so nutty I have no idea what your last post directed at me meant. Should it bother me that you are watching me?
Should I be glad you are watching me?
By the way were you seriously calling someone a racist for something that was in Obama’s book? If so you have just proved yourself to be winner of the dumbest post of the day.
By jst
November 11, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Lee, you stand corrected. I teach for a living, and I am not teaching my students to regurgitate Democratic lies. Bush’s inane, ineffective, imbecilic, data-driven No Child Left Behind mandates are keeping me busy teaching my students how to pass tests instead of how to think for themselves that I am already up to my neck in brainwashing.
By jst
November 11, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Lee, you stand corrected. I teach for a living, and I am not teaching my students to regurgitate Democratic lies. Bush’s inane, ineffective, imbecilic, data-driven No Child Left Behind mandates are keeping me busy teaching my students how to pass tests instead of how to think for themselves that I am already up to my neck in brainwashing.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Lee,
Obama has proposed alot of stuff, not just one thing, and nobody here has said that Broun called Obama a Fascist or a Communist.
We know the difference between the two.
He compared him to Hitler.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And speaking of this national security force. What’s so wrong with that? It could provide jobs, the people who join this force would be professionally trained, they could help during natural emergencies, or in the case of terrorist attacks. They could help with securing our ports and airports.
I don’t see a problem - I like security.
Our military could focus on the al-Qaeda threat, and the security force here could help with domestic security -which is horribly lacking.
And if you naysayers think for one minute that the American people would stand for a Gestapo-type force - you really are paranoid.
Ya’ know, I should send the link of this blog to my German friends and give them a laugh.
On another note, did somebody send this blog link to the Malkin blog? Do y’all remember when that last happened? That’s how we wound up with RB. There just seems to be a lot more right wingnuts here today than usual.
By Dusty
November 11, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Robert @1:55
Thank you for bringing the words of Deitrich Bonhoeffer to us. He was a Lutheran minister in Germany during Hitler’s reign and worked against Hitler’s forces in that nation, some of whom could have been called the NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE.
Bonhoffer was inprisoned in a concentration camp at Flossenburg and hung three weeks before the allies liberated the city. He was 39 years old.
I repeat the words that Bonhoeffer wrote from prison (and also reported here by Robert).
First, they came for the Communists, and I did not speak up because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me and by that time, there was no one left to speak for me.
Perhaps Broun remembered the actions in Germany with its NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE and thought it time to speak up. It was NOT insane. It was a review of what has happened in the past.
Everyone at one time thought Hitler was simply reviving and renewing Germany. I don’t know anyone who thinks Obama is another Hitler. But, I do believe that Broun made NO mistake in remembering the danger of one sole empowered person “ruling” by force, a National Security Force.
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Reading some of the hateful and childish tripe on display here today, it is no wonder the GOP has just suffered two consecutive humiliating slaughters…
62 seats lost in the US Congress alone.. And more sure to come next time around. I’ll even give you neo-cons odds on that one.
Keep up the good work, you uber-frightened “center-right” “conservatives”!
Don’t go away mad…
America loves ya!
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
I like black, that’s the color of my soul.
Don’t worry about Joe and I, we are only looking out for the ones we love - smooch! Sorry Midori and Goldie - smooch to you too.
Get it Right’s 401K - check.
Can I have some sunglasses too? I look bad a$$ and really intimidating in sunglasses.
By Robert
November 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
“First they came for the Communists, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn�t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.”
By Robert
November 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
“First they came for the Communists, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn�t speak up, because I wasn�t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn�t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.”
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Bosch
Horshack…..O O O
Duke
ok, you’re not named after David Duke…is it the mayo? … or “of Earl”?
I promise you Dukie…of all the things I am…typical ain’t one of them.
At least I have class….
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
RB I know just want her to feel good about herself.
It is entertaining to me. She is proven to be a joke and her BFF’s stay right by her side.
Gee can’t figure out why it is the same friends that have those blinders for Obama.
-Godzilla please I am begging tell me you did not call Duke a racist for repeating what Obama wrote. Please
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Bosch
Sunglasses approved ( You are so DASHING!)
Slip ‘em on Palin’s Needless Markup account!
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
And where’s all the outrage about Blackwater?
By Daedalus
November 11, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
But is an UPPITY MARXIST??
I love the Georgia GOP. No smear is beneath them.
Since a central tenet of marxism is to destroy all religions — how can the GOP accuse him of being both a marxist and secret muslim terrorist?
Oh, that’s right. They just say anything and don’t care if its logical.
Hey Jay — where can I get my uppity marxist t-shirt?
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
tcoach
you’re kinda cute when you beg.
Those blinders are issued by the Order of Obama…..so we can focus on you!
They also have a secret compartment for contact lenses and a tic yac.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
ANNENBERG HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE THE GRANTS WENT AND TO WHOM THEY WENT TO.
Now please, CommieAJC, stop trying to get me riled up or you might make me spill my latte.
My point was simply that Duke was mistaken to say that Ayer’s had established the Annenberg Challenge. The point, good friend, is the name that’s on it. That’s called an imprimatur and it tells you what you need to no about it. The point is, Commie, that the money came from there (ever heard the phrase ‘follow the money trail’?) and therefore that’s what tells us who exercises ownership of what happens there. That was money put up by a Republican, OK, got it?
GO SELL STUPID SOMEWHERE ELSE HACK!
I do try, Commie, I do try. But thanks for the pat on the back.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G, Did you really write at least I have class?
hahahahahahaahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Sorry that was not very classy of me. Your computer did not reject you typing such obvious misstatements.
By Midori
November 11, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
I think “pinko” is a great color on you!
ROFL!!!
Mrs. G — I ordered a whole case of them.
got a great deal on Ebay!!
GAWD BLESS AMERKA!! :)
By Josh
November 11, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Do not forget that there were people like Broun during the time of Hitler and Stalin bringing the same questions to the table and those people at that time called them crazy too until what those people were saying came reality. We need to quit giving Obama so much credit. He has no expeirence and we know nothing about him. That was the same with Hitler. Hitler came to power based on his charisma and so has Obama. I am with Broun and saying Obama is not Hitler but similarities are quite striking.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G. Do you really want to play?
I would not want you to go calling me a racist or anything.
Did Obama get mad at your metting when you told him you thought his book made him a racist?
By Bob B
November 11, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
What’s your point? Obama is a Marxist! Anyone who doesn’t know that is a twit! You must not read rules for radicals do you? All you had to do is to listen to Obama and his wife speak and look it up in Saul Alinksi’s book.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
No, that’s not very classy of you to demand civility and debase a fellow poster and then turn around and mock them.
Be consistant pal.
Seriously, you’ve mentioned today about Jay and the media taking Broun’s comments out of context and twisting them, how about Broun taking Obama’s plan and intention for such a program out of context and twisting them? Any thoughts?
By Mrs. Godzilla
November 11, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Midori
the whole premise today is funny….
but we of the order are on top of it.
By Midori
November 11, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Jesus Christ on a pogo stick!!
Look at all the wingnut “angst”
The funny part is — most of them can’t even pronounce the word!!!
LMAO!!!
IT’S GONNA BE A GREAT FOUR YEARS
Found this great article: Goodbye to Bush - and everything associated with him
an except (can you pronounce that word as well?)
Just over two years into George W. Bush’s presidency, The American Prospect featured Bush on its cover under the headline, “The Most Dangerous President Ever.” At the time, some probably thought it a bit over the top. But nearly six years later, it’s worth taking a moment to reflect on the multifaceted burden that will soon be lifted from our collective shoulders.
Since last week, I have stopped short and shaken my head in amazement every time I have heard the words “President-elect Obama.” But it is equally extraordinary to consider that in just a few weeks, George W. Bush will no longer be our president. Let me repeat that: In just a few weeks, George W. Bush will no longer be our president. So though our long national ordeal isn’t quite over, it’s never too early to say goodbye.
Goodbye, we can say at last, to the most powerful man in the world being such a ridiculous buffoon, incapable of stringing together two coherent sentences. Goodbye to cringing with dread every time our president steps onto the world stage, sure he’ll say or do something to embarrass us all. Goodbye to being represented by a man who embodies everything our enemies want the people of the world to believe about America — that we are ignorant, cruel, and only care about foreign countries when we decide to stomp on them. Goodbye to his giggle, and his shoulder shake, and his nicknames. Goodbye to a president who talks to us like we’re a nation of fourth-graders.
And goodbye, of course, to Dick Cheney. Goodbye to the man whose naked contempt for democracy contorted his face to a permanent sneer, who spent his days in his undisclosed location with his man-sized safe. And while we’re at it, goodbye to Cheney’s consigliore David Addington, as malevolent a force as has ever left his trail of slime across our federal institutions.
Goodbye, indeed, to the entire band of liars and crooks and thieves who have so sullied the federal government that belongs to us all. We can even say goodbye to those who have already gone, to Rummy and Scooter, to Fredo and Rove, tornados of misery left in their wake.
By Josh
November 11, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Do not forget that there were people like Broun during the time of Hitler and Stalin bringing the same questions to the table and those people at that time called them crazy too until what those people were saying came reality. We need to quit giving Obama so much credit. He has no expeirence and we know nothing about him. That was the same with Hitler. Hitler came to power based on his charisma and so has Obama. I am with Broun and saying Obama is not Hitler but similarities are quite striking. One idea that I was constantly taught in my history classes in high school and in college was that history always repeats itself until we learn from its mistakes.
By Tailgater
November 11, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
She is proven to be a joke and her BFF’s stay right by her side.
Her best friends ARE her!!!
Mrs. Godzilla’s is a sad existence in a sequestered blogging world of her own making.
By nativebird
November 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Apparently, Congressmen Broun has struck a nerve with the lockstep crowd. What does all Authoritarians (and their hacks) attempt to do in power? 1st order of business…squash dissent. You will only see ridicule and smear of dissent from Democrats in power. When Repubs are in power? oh, it’s PATRIOTIC to dissent. You guys are all transparent robots. Let in ring.
By Josh
November 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Do not forget that there were people like Broun during the time of Hitler and Stalin bringing the same questions to the table and those people at that time called them crazy too until what those people were saying came reality. We need to quit giving Obama so much credit. He has no expeirence and we know nothing about him. That was the same with Hitler. Hitler came to power based on his charisma and so has Obama. I am with Broun and saying Obama is not Hitler but similarities are quite striking. One idea that I was constantly taught in my history classes in high school and in college was that history always repeats itself until we learn from our mistakes.
By Cujo Bendi
November 11, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
First off, I would like to congradulate this country on electing it’s FIRST INTER-RACIAL President Barack Hussein Obama.
And, secondly, I would like to congradulate Mr. Broun for doing something the media and most politicians don’t have the courage to do which is point out the fact that Mr. Hussein Obama is in fact a RADICAL!
By BlueMax372
November 11, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
What I’m finding difficult to believe is that a majority of the American electorate are so stupid that they knowingly elected an avowed Marxist to the presidency. Second thoughts are only months away so go ahead and enjoy this single-term Jimmy Carter throwback.
By cc
November 11, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
ask broun what he thinks about scrapping that e pluribus unim and that united we stand stuff, ‘cause that folks is your basic socialism.
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Duke, You give Ms Godzilla too much credit. Judging her thoughts has led me to the conclusion that she didn’t finish high school.
Soixante huitard, Ok, so since Obamas campaign received money from CAIR, a muslim extremist group, that makes him a terrorist. I’m playing your game now. You’re basically saying that since Annenbergs name is on the institution then he knew where every single bit of money went, right? So, I can safely assume that Obama Hussein is a communist, since he had communist professors, he is a muslim, because his dad was, and he is a racist since he went to a racist church. Right? Your hypocrisy is showing comrade.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Bob B,
Oh please share, I love a good story, and by the way,
What is a Marxist? Specifically.
By JackLeg
November 11, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
The only thing that Obuma proved is that the American presidency is up for sale, $500 million is the cost.
By tcoach
November 11, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Yes I do have a thought.
At no time did Broun say Obama said something, as Jay did, that was not true.
Broun gave his opinion that is shared by professionals the world over.
While Bookman took adirect quote and tried to mislead his viewing audience.
Big difference there.
But I did think that until Obama takes office or Broun has more concrete evidence he should not be making this case yet.
I ask you if the actual statement made by Broun is anything like what Bookman said it was? NO.
Why do you think Bookman did not post the actual statment until later, and never once directed a post to me, because he knew I was correct.
Also I was mocked many a many times before I did any type of mocking.
But thank you for being the blog police. Have a good day, gotta go to practice.
By Midori
November 11, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
am I mistaken, or did Bob B just call himself a “twit”?
By jst
November 11, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
ridicule and smear of dissent from Democrats in power?!! Better watch that - Anne Coulter will be mighty offended.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
BlueMax372,
I can sympathize. I found it rather amazed that the electorate elected an avowed Fascist in 2000 and 2004!
Wow! Wonders never cease.
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Bosch, American Heritage Dictionary.
Marxist: One that believes in or follows the ideas of Marx and Engels.
an adherent of Karl Marx or his theories.
By Warren
November 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
So Obama ‘s a Nazi Socialist Marxist Muslim,huh? Geez! It seems that Mr. Paul Broun needs to brush up on his ideologies. These republicans sure do throw out a lot of words but seem to not really know exactly what any of them mean. They seem to have a vague notion about things and just lump them all together,sort of like thinking that Africa is one country.. But since they are pandering to many that share their lack of knowledge it probably works.
By DB, Gwinnettian
November 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
“Broun gave his opinion that is shared by professionals the world over.”
Funniest. Comment. Ever.
By Bob B
November 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Bosch:
Michelle quoting from the communist rules for radicals:
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/michelleobama4.php
Obama learns well from Marxists:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4784
By No Name
November 11, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
I like Jay Bookman’s blog…
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Hi Swami, I’d like to give your 2:09 post a response but it might not be until we’re in a different chump thread. But I’ll try to post something in the next hour or so.
Until then.
your
68er
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
CommunistAJC,
And how specifically is Obama a Marxist?
By jst
November 11, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Warren and DB - let’s hear it for these wacky reactionaries, eh?
By Marvin Taylor
November 11, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
What a total embarrassment to Georgians! This guy is doing no good for anyone preaching his fear and doom rubbish. I am so very sorry that so many in our beautiful state don’t have a clue. The majority of Americans have spoken loud and clear. We are sick of Congressman Broun’s brand of politics and we have demanded a change. Now he can go kicking and screaming and continue trying to hold back positive progress for his country, or shut up and get on board. Congressman, you have helped sail our ship into the darkness for so long that you are just squinting a little now because it’s headed into the light, but you’ll get over it and you’ll be fine. Sit tight.
By groucho marxo
November 11, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
i love the obama posters everywhere!
so communistic propaganda like.
show ‘em proud show ‘em loud!
By Moose
November 11, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Mr. Broun is right on the money. BHO is the most lefty person who ever ran for and was elected President of the USA.
Thank you Mr. Broun for daring to defy the BHO brown shirts and gestapo.
By SaveOurRepublic
November 11, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Although I take many issues with the Neocon infested GOP, I must say Congressman Broun’s comments are much closer to truth than fantasy. “Bacrock Obuma’s” voting record, platform & various statements lean heavily towards Marxism.
That being said…”Bacrock” is a servant of the Globalist Elite (as are “Jorge Boosh” & “Juan McAmnasty”). It was the Machiavellian Neocons who began setting the foundation for an Orwellian police state & dictatorship via totally un-Constitutional legislation as the (so-called) “Patriot” Act, the Military Commissions Act & the John Warner Defense Authorization Act. If anything, Skull&Bonesman Bush ensured the framework was in place for a dictatorship/marital law. One of the (few) differences between the Neocons & Marxist Dems, is the Neocons are more likely to (again) use a false-flag attack as the pretext for such a police state.
http://www.infowars.com
By celia
November 11, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
if only the rinos had stepped back from the dimwits in their massive bailout. dems could have, should have, would have voted their socialist tenets out of desperation.
may true conservatives never EVER share anything with dimwits again.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Bob B,
Wait, wait, wait, is Obama a Marxist of a Communist? You are confusing me.
And yeah, I can see your point, helping out those in his community, trying to help them with jobs and making their life better, with working and jobs, and all that stuff, well, that just plain sucks.
By Midori
November 11, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
good one, Bosch!!
I can sympathize. I found it rather amazed that the electorate elected an avowed Fascist in 2000 and 2004!
and smooch right back atcha!!!
however, you left out the part of said fascist being a retard and an utter failure to boot!!
By munge
November 11, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
“Broun might as well have claimed that he had been abducted by aliens and appointed queen of their planet Bogusia…He is the point at which the lunatic fringe and Republican officeholders intersect.”
I thought, where have I heard something this shrill before? Hmmm…
“Goldberg, the modern media’s most high-profile whistleblower, became a non-person and was marginalized until he left CBS due to his sin: he wrote a blunt and thoughtful piece in the Wall Street Journal questioning the objectivity of CBS Evening News reporter Eric Engberg’s segment in which Engberg ridiculed presidential candidate Steve Forbe’s flat-tax idea’s “Number One Wackiest Flat Tax Promise.”
Nice one Jay. Maybe I can get as rich as Bernie by writing about your sophomoric paralogism…
By Robert
November 11, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
What a bunch of MAROON’S!!!!!!
By Lynne
November 11, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
There were many “nuts” who warned the German people about Hitler too…..
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
CommieAJC: Did you say Obama Hussein?
Who’s that?
By Meg
November 11, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Bookman! Look up the definition of “marxism.” If you don’t see Obama’s plans in that definition, you’re in denial.
Nevermind. You media guys have been in denial since Obama jumped out of Chicago political cake.
And, you might want to look around and count how many folks are snickering about your column, big boy.
By Call it Like it is
November 11, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Good for him
Funny how people referred to Bush as Hitler, a liar, and even dumb, and there was no outrage like this from the AJC!
Obama= What A Joke! No Experience Socialist that hangs with Racist and questionable people and you, Jay have the nerve to defend the Thug!
Enough Said!
By BigDaddy1
November 11, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
For the many sane posters to this site, thank you. But go a step further and do what I did today; send a snail-mail letter to Broun and flood his office with your opinions. Also, keep this all in mind when he is up for re-election and let’s recruit and support a sensible Democrat to unseat him. The people have spoken, and we must continue to work to hold on to our democracy. For the other small-minded haters, the train has left the station. And since today is Veteran’s Day, I am pretty sure that you can go and find another Civil War re-enactment to participate in, hoping stupidly that the result will be different. God speed to President Obama!
By raoul
November 11, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Representative Broun is doing us all a great service by pointing out the parallels of what took place in Germany and the Soviet Union, in light of the comments MADE BY OBAMA HIMSELF in July. He is doing nothing more than raising a flag that that kind of mentality could lead to a similar path if we are not careful. He is not a nut-case, as so many of you claim - I would argue that those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it - there is NOTHING wrong with raising these questions - if nothing else it may jolt some of you out of your trance-like state in order to objectively understand facts and history when they are being presented to you.
By Allen
November 11, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
“And yeah, I can see your point, helping out those in his community, trying to help them with jobs and making their life better, with working and jobs, and all that stuff, well, that just plain sucks.”
Can you produce a single person who has a job today because of Obama? Name one, a single one. On the other hand, supporting infanticide is just dandy, and lying about it is even better!
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Bosch, As Duke pointed out from Barrack Husseins book. His favorite professor was a Communist. Obamas words. He’s already said that he will spread the wealth. Just yesterday his staff said the Obama will be ready to RULE from day one. He has stated that he wants a civilian army. Hello Karl Marx. Anyone who bases his entire campaign on the word change yet says nothing about what change means has something to hide.
By Midori
November 11, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
now now Bosch - I have personally seen the elusive Obama birth certificate which proves that not only is he not a US born citizen (was born on the planet Krypton), he was actually delivered by none other than Karl Marx himself!!!
That certainly convinced ME.
Would Karl lie? :)
By Tailgater
November 11, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
did Bob B just call himself a “twit”
Only an Obama twitterer would be stupid enough to think it’s Bob who is the twit.
Obama’s army of twits gave their dear leader unlimited access!!?!!
Stupidity knows no bounds.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Call it Like it is,
Yeah, but we did that based on things Bush actually DID! Weird huh?
By Robert
November 11, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
What a bunch of MAROON’S!!!!!!
By groucho marxo
November 11, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
look at the obama posters folks!
just like the Che, Chinese and Russian communist propaganda posters!
next we’ll be constructing huge obama statues everywhere.
all hail obama!
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
OMG, now Obama’s a baby killer.
By Greg Mendel
November 11, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
Bob B:
I clicked on your links. One doesn’t exist. The other links to a right-wing nutcase operation called the Canadian Free Press. A little research shows that the CFP has a regular habit of lying, and getting burned for it.
If you work a little harder, you can probably find something to use against Obama in “Der Sturmer.” Julius Streicher was a dedicated anti-Marxist.
A simpler way to make your case is to just make s* up. The cultists will believe it.
By BDAtlanta
November 11, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
Here’s a picture of Hitler on his tank
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/11/obamas-dressed-down-lookn142918.html
By Jay, GA
November 11, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
Rep. Broun’s voting record shows that he does cling to guns and religion, but little else.
He votes Y on all defense and national security funding related bills and energy futures trading, N for anything related to gun control, health care, education funding, ….
By jst
November 11, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
I just had to break up an argument between two students who were calling each other scum-sucking pigs. Scrolling back, I see ya’ll have been having the same conversation. There’s synchronicity for ya!
By Midori
November 11, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
now now Bosch - I have personally seen the elusive Obama birth certificate which proves that not only is he not a US born citizen (was born on the planet Krypton), he was actually delivered by none other than Karl Marx himself!!!
That certainly convinced ME.
Would Karl lie? :)
By GMAN
November 11, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Paul Broun of Athens for US Senator! We might as well re-enforce Georgia’s image as the NUT STATE!
By the way, there’s this new phrase being tossed about since the wingnuts were trampled, “right-of-center”. What the hell does that mean? I think that’s another way to brand the party of wingnuts because they realize right-wing conservatism is not what the American people want. So, they’re trying to package the same old shiite in a different wrapper in hopes that the majority of the American voters won’t smell it before they by it. Nice try but if it walks like Paul Broun and talks like Paul Broun…
By Midori
November 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
LOL,.
Tailgater is all a-twitter about something.
Perhaps if you yelled louder, Tailgater?
SAY IT LOUD!!! HE’S CLUELESS AND PROUD
Talk about cornering the market on stupidity. LMAO!!
How much are your shares worth?
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Communist AJC,
Seriously, I don’t believe all that for a minute.
But just for the sake of arguing about what Obama said or didn’t say, or whatever, what’s wrong with a civilian force that can help with security - say, they are used to help protect the borders, port security, it would create jobs, professionally train people - and really, let’s stop with the hyperbole, and talk specifics.
Obama would not have a Gestapo-type force, you and I both know that’s just scare tactics.
Seriously, what would be wrong with that?
By Jen
November 11, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Broun is just another GOP fear monger. Why make up hypothetical comparisons of the most awful things to start out the new Presidency on such a negative foot?
I voted for Obama because I don’t want more of the same scare tactics and negative, greedy attitudes in the government.
If I wanted to hypothesize Obama’s Presidency, I would choose to portray him as what Bobby Kennedy would have been like as President than Hitler. Or how about King David - as simply David, he took on Goliath and won.
Need any more stories?
By Goldie
November 11, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G, Midori and Bosch — I’m looking forward to wearing my pinko jumpsuit… big butts rule!
By h ryder
November 11, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
My opinion is that our President elect has an obsolute horrible idea to establish another “police force”. Most residents of the U.S. currently have a minimum of four levels of “police” monitoring behavior. If that is not sufficient, we need to reestablish the social constructs which are SUPPOSED to govern each person from within themself.
By Greg Mendel
November 11, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
‘And how specifically is Obama a Marxist?’ — Bosch
I don’t think the wingnuts can answer that, Bosch. Not without a seance with Lee Atwater and a few beers with Karl Rove.
By jerry
November 11, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Just for S’s & G’s …I’d like to point out to all of you…that includes you Jay… None of you addressed the reason the good congressman said what he said… National Security Force???.WTF??? I see, when you don’t like the message…shoot the messenger … Ignore his warning at you own peril…
By Call it Like it is
November 11, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
No, most of America was allowed to be dupped by the media on cheap talk and no actions. The in-thing or the popular thing to do. Most that voted probably have never paid taxes nor will ever vote again.
All they voted on is the color of a person’s skin, not the quality or what one has done for his country. We have already seen by choices that this guy is making (failed economic advisors) and yet, he still gets the pass.
Hey look, this guy Obama has done nothing.
Can ya hear me? NOTHING for AMERICA!
As far a you Bosch, may your arm-pits be infested with fleas of a thousand camels.
You Liberals are truly DUMB!
By munge
November 11, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
I would hasten to add that I am however briefly enjoying the Jaydenfreude, as his BDS from living in a Deep-Red State isn’t likely to improve much in the Carter Redux 4-Year Pogrom aka Kultural Make Bankrupt Glorious Nation; nor subsequently when Jindal-Petraeus rides the backlash tsunami to victory over One-Term Barry in 2012. With Georgia once again in the star role as Red State #1!
By Midori
November 11, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
ROFL!!
Goldie - you took me back for a minute!!
Remember “Sir Mix-A-Lot”?
I like big butts, and I cannot lie…..
ROFL!!!
By Harry
November 11, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Wingnuts and other Georgia (R) politicians are not to be taken seriously, not like they are relevant or anything. A whole week went by before one of THEM compared President Obama to Hitler.
It’s OK to point and laugh at the poor dumb redneck republicans. Everyone knows how bigoted and stupid they are. Now the rest of the adults can go on with the real job of cleaning up the mess they left behind.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
Most that voted probably have never paid taxes nor will ever vote again.
That’s an interesting elitist jab.
Let me guess, you’re the kind of guy who’d probably support a poll tax, no?
Hey look, this guy Obama has done nothing.
Can ya hear me? NOTHING for AMERICA!
Hey, c’mon, yes, I hear you. You don’t have to shout, jeez.
Why are you so defensive though? You seem really irritable or something. What’s wrong?
Like that guy History BOOK man, or something.
You guys act like we’d elected a big bad Marxist or something who was gonna come clean you out. Or go out with your sister or something life-altering.
As far a you Bosch, may your arm-pits be infested with fleas of a thousand camels.
Is that from the bible?
You Liberals are truly DUMB!
We’re doin what we can, buddy. Just doin what we can.
By Goldie
November 11, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Midori — and I’m guessing Bosch can learn to love the pink when he’s surrounded by all the bounteous butts a-beauty!
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Soix,
Yeah, that armpit infestation thing was a little weird huh? Never heard that one before, but it definitely sounds biblical. Oh my God, is that a boil on my face? I’ll be right back……….
By Midori
November 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
As far a you Bosch, may your arm-pits be infested with fleas of a thousand camels.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
not the tried and true flea curse!!!!
BOSCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
TO THE EXTERMINATOR!!
Maybe they’ll have something that will rid us of these brainless zombies while wer’e at it :)
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Jaydenfreude?
Lots of German being thrown around today. What’s going on? :-)
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Bosch, Ok, you’re truly confused. It has been on several networks today. Obama wants a civilian task force. WE HAVE THE NATIONAL GUARD, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FBI, THE CIA AND HOMELAND SECURITY. Is that not enough? Furthermore, READ HIS DAMN BOOK! HIS FAVORITE PROFESSOR WAS A MARXIST. My gosh, here I am presenting his own words from his own book and you are calling me a liar. Stop drinking the kool aid comrade.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Well look who got Olbermann’s ‘worst person’ back in March
By Goldie
November 11, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Now, all us Commie-lovers have to admit that these wingnut trolls are a real laugh riot some days, today being no exception… oh, the fleas in the armpits just took me all the way back to my Sunday school days! Oh, dat be too funny!
Bring on that wingnut troll humor, Y’all…
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
As Freddie Mercury sings “Fat Bottom Girls, you make the rockin’ world go round!”
Midori,
I’m okay. No biblical infestations and that boil I thought was on my face turns out to be just some chocolate from the Snickers bar I just ate.
That whole line made me think that dude is just Polly folling around. Hey, maybe all these new wingnuts today have been Polly in disguise.
By ewoh24
November 11, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
What is “Marxist” about a security force? If you’re going to use Hitler’s Gestapo and Youth groups as an example you need to say a “National Socialist security force.” Republicans love throwing these “…ists” around without even knowing what they mean or the historical accuracy of what they are saying. Which is what is so scary about these guys. The days of anti-intellectualism are hopefully over.
By Secessionist
November 11, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
I hope all of you Obama voters are ready to move out of this part of the country. The Marxist agenda simply won’t cut it down here.
I hope Paul Broun and others keep a close eye on Obama and report the abuses of power that the Chicago mafia are about to impose on freedom-loving, individualist Americans. And when the day comes, hopefully Rep. Broun and others will lead the charge to defend our Constitution.
Marxists, we don’t care if you want to tax and spend, redistribute wealth, abolish religion, kill babies, support gay marriage, or whatever, just stop trying to force the rest of us to accept it as normal or adopt it as our law. Feel free to move to Cuba, China, or Russia. Obama thinks those nations are superior to ours, anyway.
By jules
November 11, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
“It’s OK to point and laugh at the poor dumb redneck republicans. Everyone knows how bigoted and stupid they are. ” Think so? I invite you to come out to Wyoming and give it a try sometime. Arrogant and dismissive when posting anonomously on a website, show us how mouthy and bold you’d be spouting off here. You’d soil yourself halfway through your first plaintive bleat. That makes it difficult to run-
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Communist AJC,
Where did I call you a liar? You said earlier his favorite professor was a Communist and now he’s a Marxist - I haven’t read his book, so which is it?
But I digress….
I just want to cut through the rhetoric and hyperbole, and all the other crap, and discuss a new security force that does just that - secures things - like airports and borders and ports and places after natural disasters.
That National Guard is not a full time force unless they are deployed overseas, the police force fights crime in specific areas, the FBI and CIA aren’t involved in those kinds of security details, and Homeland Security doesn’t have manpower to do those things.
This would also help create jobs - professional jobs and not vigilante groups who are protecting the borders without a full knowledge of the law.
Everyone here today has been a little hysterical about semantics, but hasn’t addressed what Obama has actually proposed.
I think this country needs more security in the areas I’ve mentioned, and I think it’s worthy of thinking about.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Some girls are bigger than others. - Morrissey
By the way, here’s a factoid: the name Broun is etymologically related to the name Brown. It appears to come directly from the German braun.
By RB from Gwinnett
November 11, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Bosch, why do we need an additional security force? I get your “it creates jobs” routine, but why? Do we not already have local, state and federal law enforcement, port authority, TSA, Coast Guard, Army, Navy, AF, Marines, and guard units out the yingyang all over the country? All of which do all of the things you keep clamoring about already. So why does any president need an additional force that reports directly to him? Why not increase the numbers in these existing forces if the laundry list you gave is their duty since they’re already performing that duty?
You obviously don’t understand the checks and balances our founding fathers created to keep any select few or an individual from siezing power in this nation. Perhaps you should study up on history a little, eh?
By Goldie
November 11, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
Secessionist @ 4:26 — sounds to me like you’re ready for GA, Alabama and Mississippi to go ahead and secede from these here United States… I’m hoping that bill goes before Congress from some of your R-Looneyville reps in ‘09! Can’t wait to see Congress revisit that vote!
Go, Secessionist — secede, secede!
Or, maybe you would just prefer to go ahead and move yourself over to IRAQ, the Republicans’ latest annexed state??? They’ve got all kinds o’ weapons and unarmored Humvees just waiting for you Repubs over there!
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Bosch, ???????? Dude, seriously, you make my mind hurt. Read his book. I mean, you seem to be a devout follower of the most high lord hussein. WHY WOULD WE NEED A SECURITY FORCE? NATURAL DISASTERS? HELLO, FEMA. And, what would these so called security forces be doing on their downtime? Sitting around like lazy DOT workers? What about THE DAMN POLICE DEPARTMENT? THEY ARE FULL-TIME. You’re proposing jobs that already exist. The National Guard is a volunteer group.
By KeepinItReal
November 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Yo *PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA *
Waddup homey?!!!
Just giving you a quick shout out. A couple of things.
Maintain that swagger at all times.
Hurry up and get that hoop up in the White House.
Looking forward to the presidential library when this is all over man, you will be forever cemented in history. Which reminds me..we gotta get started on rewriting these history books now…I’m out.
PEEEaaayce! V
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Broun
I see stupid people
President Obama is the worst nightmare of ignorant (Georgia) people
A small blue box left at the huge Obama good luck card, among the thousands of positive messages and photos, at the steps of The Lincoln Memorial (in Washington DC) says it better than any of the rantings of people like Broun,
“It’s good to be smart”
By WPWW
November 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
*By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Jaydenfreude?
Lots of German being thrown around today. What’s going on? :-) *
Try this one…”untermenschen”…as in the ones who elected Marxist B.Hussein & legions (including uber-Zionist parasite Rahm Emmanuel).
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Broun
I see stupid people
President Obama is the worst nightmare of ignorant (Georgia) people
A small blue box left at the huge Obama good luck card, among the thousands of positive messages and photos, at the steps of The Lincoln Memorial (in Washington DC) says it better than any of the rantings of people like Broun,
“It’s good to be smart”
By Greg Mendel
November 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
“And when the day comes, hopefully Rep. Broun and others will lead the charge to defend our Constitution.”
— Secessionist
From secessionists?
By Lance
November 11, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Bosch said: “But just for the sake of arguing about what Obama said or didn’t say, or whatever, what’s wrong with a civilian force that can help with security - say, they are used to help protect the borders, port security, it would create jobs, professionally train people - and really, let’s stop with the hyperbole, and talk specifics.
Obama would not have a Gestapo-type force, you and I both know that’s just scare tactics.
Seriously, what would be wrong with that?”
What could be wrong with that? Where do I even begin?
1st - we don’t need another set of people armed to do ANYTHING. If our borders or ports need protecting, use the National Guard or the military (including the Coast Guard). If our people need protection from crime, have LOCAL governments hire more police officers.
2nd - You said “Professionally trained people” - professionally trained to do what - intimidate citizens with their superior firepower? And pray tell, who will protect US from THEM if they decide to abuse their power? Obama says he doesn’t want to take away your shotgun, rifle, or pistol, yet I keep hearing about potential bans on semi-automatic weapons. You do realize that many shotguns, rifles, and pistols are semi-automatic? The only guns that aren’t semi-automatic are pump shotguns and bolt-action rifles. I am sure those will strike fear in the hearts of this well armed civilian defense force.
Every American should be wary of the prospect of an armed civilian defense force that reports to the federal government. As a liberal, I am shocked that you see ANY merit to this idea. Too many in your party have make a ruckus over the Patriot Act, yet you defend this?
I must say I am shocked at your reaction.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
RB,
No, I do understand the checks and balances of that system, and I’m all for expanding the existing systems we have.
I know plenty about history too, I think people today have been a little hysterical about all this, and haven’t really discussed what he’s talking about - because to be honest, he hasn’t said anything about what he intended for such a force to do.
Hence the laundry list. Now, is he talking about additional security to ports, airport, the border, assistance with natural disasters? If so, then why is that so bad? Is he talking about building up the Peace Corp and Americorp again?
Well, he really hasn’t elaborated on this, plenty of people have given their misguided assumptions, even me, but this is all based on a very small something that he’s said.
Are you happy with the border, airport, port protection of this country? Do you think they’ve been doing a good job? I don’t. Our National Guard has been spending alot of time in Iraq. And maybe he’s just talking about a revamping of the current system.
He’s also talked about a volunteer force of college age kids either in civil service or military service to work off college tuition. I’m all for that.
And the fantasy-like Gestapo type force everyone’s been blabbing about is crazy, and no one, as no one, not for a minute would allow that.
By Secessionist
November 11, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
My preference would be for the folks who don’t want to live by the US Constitution to secede and start their own Commie/Marxist nation. Or, just shortcut the process and move to Canada, Cuba, China, Russia, or France.
If, however, we have now reached a point in America where the majority believes in socialism, aka the redistribution of wealth, then I would be more than happy to support secession.
By fervor
November 11, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
Karl Marx said that communism would begin in an agrarian society. Geez, the U.S. is sooo agrarian.
Paul Broun is an incompetent boob. He didn’t seem to mind the Bush/Cheney experiment with fascism — suspension of Habeas Corpus, preemptive war with a country that posed no threat to us, state sanctioned religion, etc.
One other thing, Athens didn’t elect Broun. The Republican House in GA gerrymandered our district, cutting the smallest county in half and placing it in two separate districts. Made loads of sense. Athens went overwhelmingly for his opponent, Bobby Saxon.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
Oh my God, is that a boil on my face? I’ll be right back……….
That’s right, Bosch. If you hear a wing nut start using strange biblical images, it’s time to take cover.
Like Samual L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction, minus the sense of humor.
By Bosch
November 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Lance, RB, and Communist,
I see your points, I’m talking hypothetical here, because at this point, that’s what it is - it’s hypothetical.
He’s not given specifics on any of this.
Like I said, the hysterics of all of this is based on twisting of words and gross misleadings and also something very small in a very big picture.
Later all! Pleasant evening.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Ask Yourself
As Sarah Palin and her husband participated in a party whose platform was to secede from The United States, why was there no uproar against such anti-patriotic activity?
Have there been any death threats reported against Palin?
Why the double standard in the interpretation of the words of Paul Broun?
Broun is stupid and anti-American for promoting treason against the Office of The President of The United States.
Anyone who thinks his words are to be followed or a road map for the future needs to be shouted down by the same people who chant
USA, USA, USA!
By CommunistAJC
November 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Bosch, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! WE DON’T KNOW WHAT OBAMA WILL DO. HE HAS BEEN VAGUE SINCE HE FIRST THREW HIS HAT IN THE RING.
By Pam
November 11, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
This nut is my rep. I really wish he would stop making folks from Georgia look so foolish. We had such a great choice to replace Broun in Bobby Saxon and we blew it big time!
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Ask Yourself
As Sarah Palin and her husband participated in a party whose platform was to secede from The United States, why was there no uproar against such anti-patriotic activity?
Have there been any death threats reported against Palin?
Why the double standard in the interpretation of the words of Paul Broun?
Broun is stupid and anti-American for promoting treason against the Office of The President of The United States.
Anyone who thinks his words are to be followed or a road map for the future needs to be questioned down by the same people who chant
USA, USA, USA!
By Chris
November 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Good job Georgia! Way to keep making us Southerns look like idiots. But, whatever keeps marginalizing the Republican Right wing, so there is a bright side to your constant nonsense.
By Soothsayer
November 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Here’s the deal Bookmeat; the American press has not told us who Obama is. We really have no idea what he really believes or stands for. He has the well scripted speeches by his writers and he has spoken to us in his low, smooth cigarette smoker voice, but we still do not know what he believes. If people like you hide his true side forever, what do you expect? People can make any accusation in the world against him because there is no way to discern exactly what or who this man is. There is nothing to rebut their accusations with. He is an empty page. You, the AJC or the New York Times (not that you or the AJC should be spoken in the same breath as the New York Times)certainly aren’t going to tell us because you are too involved with making yourselves look good with your city’s principle demographic. You are not exactly, as they say, one to look to for an objective opinion since you have been in the tank for any Liberal since you were floating in the womb. Another words, your analysis of anything political is worthless.
By BJC
November 11, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Good for Broun, he’s just saying what 46% of America thought on voting day. Obama is a radical lefty nut. Time will prove this to be true. While he’s outlawing Co2 from cars perhaps he should outlaw liberals from breathing at the same time. That would save TONS in Co2 emissions.
By Midori
November 11, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
I hope all of you Obama voters are ready to move out of this part of the country. The Marxist agenda simply won’t cut it down here.
wa-a-a-a-a-y ahead of ya!!
I sure don’t want this monumental ignorance rubbing off on ME
I long to feel the northern winters again, as well as its intelligence.
By Secessionist
November 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
misterearl,
There is no such thing as treason against the President of the United States. As any member of the United States Armed Forces will tell you, there is no oath to the President. Your oath is to the Constitutuion.
Our founding fathers, especially Thomas Jefferson, realized that the voting system allowed for the majority to control the government. This is the reason that they limited the powers of the federal government and allowed most of the power to remain with the States. They foresaw that a President could be elected who would abuse power. That is why they specifically created individual liberties (and let us keep our guns).
States were always to be permitted to leave if they chose. It was not until the War of Northern Agression that States were forced to remain part of the Union and the Federal government became all-powerful.
By Secessionist
November 11, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Midori,
I’d be glad to help you pack.
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Soothsayer, that’s a pretty harsh rant you’ve delivered there. G’day to ya mate.
By the way, Bookmeat, huh? That’s pretty good, I haven’t heard that one before.
By the way, why would you knock the AJC for not being in the same league as the NY Times? I thought they were all birds of a feather to you guys. Or are you just a right-wing extremist hater in your spare time, but a cultural elitist for your day job (or vice versa)?
Also, that’s kind of a nasty insinuation you make there about the city’s ‘main demographic’. C’mon, guy, don’t beat around the bush. Let’s call a spad a spade here (sorry to mix metaphors). I guess by that you mean black people, right? And in saying this you’re saying that Bookman is marching to a certain beat because it’s favorable to do so when your paper is located in a city with such a large black contingent.
Hmm. Sounds like someone who strongly believes in the reality of people prostituting themselves to get by, maintain an image or make a living, no? Do you have first hand knowledge here or something? C’mon, don’t be coy. Tell us about yourself.
By ghost rider
November 11, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
AmVet @ 4:53 PM
AMVET…I like your attitude!
After several weeks at Parris Island these sorry butt wipes would be crying for their Mama’s!
By Frederick Douglass
November 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
What many of you are witnessing is a young man that was reared without all of the trappings of life that you yourselves take for granted, that Bush and McCain take for granted. Not since Lincoln has someone risen from true poverty and claimed the White House, it must seem like Marxism, Facism, or some other dirty word to y’all, but to the down trodden it’s called a chance. America has spoken, and she said that she’s fed up with fake leaders, that don’t have an inkling of how 3/4 of the country lives. This nation was built on the premise that we wouldn’t duplicate the model of England with its royalty, and damned if we didn’t morph into the exact same thing. Obama might have some wealth, but I bet he knows what missing a meal feels like, that should serve him and us well over the coming years.
By vietnam vet
November 11, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Just what this country needs, more moronic rhetoric ala Michele Bachman and Elizabeth Dole. With the problems that this country is facing, it is going to take a united effort and sacrifices by everyone to dig out of the hole we are in. It’s clear that Broun wants to continue to spread fear and hatred to divide this country. Why does he hate America so much? Why do Republicans hate America so much? Why did Bush, Cheney and the Republican Party wreck our country?
By Midori
November 11, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
Secessionist,
no bother. you really think I’d let one of you unhinged masses inside my home?
r-i-g-h-t.
but then given the huge unemployment rate here, maybe that nutcase congressman can throw you a bone.
one would think you 20 percenters would welcome a real president, who would represent ALL the people — not just the lunatic fringe.
oh yeah — I almost forgot: HAPPY VETERANS DAY TO MY FELLOW VETS
Why do I feel Mr. S. doesn’t fit in that category?
By Lance
November 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
Bosch said: “And the fantasy-like Gestapo type force everyone’s been blabbing about is crazy, and no one, as no one, not for a minute would allow that.”
Two questions: Who would stop them? And by what means would they stop them?
If you allow the creation of this force, no matter how well-intentioned, you open an Pandora’s box of trouble that will never, ever be reigned in.
By Gadawgs
November 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
How embarrasing…GA. is already the laughing stock of the country…Newt, Zell,Saxby and now Broun…I feel sorry for the people in Athens for having a nut as their representative…I know Clark County was the bright spot of blue, in a sea of red…(of course, thats the educated part of the district. Come on Georgia!! show some class
By fearless fosdik
November 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) has said Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.
What does Broun base this on? The voices in his head? Apparently, this stems from a July speech from Obama where he discussed a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure.
As has been pointed out, the Bush Administration endorses this idea.
Broun also said Obama will ban gun ownership. Though of course, there is nothing to actually base this on.
Here we have an unknown crackpot come up with theories not backed up by, well, anything.
Who is Broun? Which district does he represent? Who would vote for such a genuis?
Living in the south is such a HOOT!
By Secessionist
November 11, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Pleased to let you know that I proudly served in the United States Air Force for 15 years. So thank you on the Happy Veterans Day, and if you are also truly a veteran, then Happy Veterans Day to you.
I happen to remember that I took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Never really thought our elected officials could become a threat, but that’s why we have a Constitution, isn’t it? I hope all Veterans remember their oaths when the SS starts trying to round up our guns.
By RB from Gwinnett
November 11, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
Bosch, the issue with Obama is the suggestion this force report to him. That should NEVER happen. If there were a need for such a force, it should be branched under the existing framework that keeps it under the checks and balances put there for a reason.
The critisizm of the border patrol and other was of YOU, not Obama.
And to answer your question, I’m fairly satisfied with all of those services with the exception of immigration. That’s partly a border problem, but mostly an enforcement problem. We can’t even bring ourselves to send people home who should not be here because of all of the whining from liberals and the pandering for votes by both parties. Obama’s aunt included. It’s simple: traffic ticket, shouldn’t be here, gone tomorrow. Broken arm, we’ll treat it, send you home. Got kids? Take them with you and don’t come back. But instead we want to give them free education, drivers licenses, healthcare, etc? I don’t get it.
By Northern Winters
November 11, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Midori -
Thank you for your kind words saying you wish to feel the intelligence of northern winters again. Please come home my poor child for some re-education. I can make you feel cold, but unlike the wizard of oz, I cannot give you a brain.
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
Thank you ghost rider, my fellow brother in arms,
More than that my friend, they would gain an understanding of this nation that pukes like their gutless heroes - Cheney, Bush, Chambliss, Broun and the entire Republican leadership - have no earthly conception of.
Your average garden variety McCarthyite and McVeigh (who was absolutely convinced he killed all of those innocent people in an act to defend the Constitution) Republicans are all really good at two things though - talking real loud from the back of the crowd and raising the rabble while hiding under their beds.
They are certainly not men of courage or valor in my book, nor could they could carry the jocks of Mr. Cleland, McCain, Hagel or Webb. Among MANY others in Congress. Ironically, almost all non-Republicans.
And they certainly know NOTHING about integrity first, sacrifice, service before self, excellence in everything we do and a code of honor.
They are just frightened little boys and girls screaming to be heard. Yet even they now know, very few are listening…
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
One more thing for the inaptly-named Soothsayer: Here’s the deal Bookmeat; the American press has not told us who Obama is. We really have no idea what he really believes or stands for.
The position you’re articulating in those statements is a perfect example of clinical paranoia.
No amount of explaining will convince a paranoid person who just saw someone walking out of the doughnut shop nod at him and then turns on TV and hears a famous person mention his first name that God isn’t trying to send him a message and is not out to send rays down to fry his brain, for ex. Because you can’t PROVE that these things are not true.
Likewise, it is strictly speaking PARANOID to keep insisting that “we don’t know who Obama is” or “what he stands for.*, which are demonstrably false but which a person who is convinced there is a sinister message hidden behind the curtains will continue believing despite all reasonable evidence to the contrary.
I’m not saying that Soothsayer or Rep. Broun are personally mentally ill (they MAY be!), but there is a paranoia that permeates political and cultural discourse. And a great place to see how it operates is on this forum.
Btw, when fearless foskik asks what Broun bases his assertions on, “The voices in his head?”, I think he’s right on the mark!
By Reality Check
November 11, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
Actually, the US Congressman suggested that OBAMA, MIGHT, as in MIGHT, be a Marxists, and might attempt to implement a Dictatorship. . .
Most governments in this world are NOT democratic republics like ours. . .
It is not crazy to believe that when the Media goes on vacation during an election - the result might need to be watched. . .
Obama may, or may not, have misspoke, but he did say: . .
“We gotta have a Civilian Security Force that is just as strong, just as powerful, and just as well funded” as “our military”. . .
That would be 500 Billion Dollars ( $500,000,000,000 ) each year, or more, in tax dollars spent on this new “Civilian Defense Force”. Couid this be another name for a militia loyal to Obama ???
. .
Maybe / Maybe Not. But if Obama starts to build one - we might want to keep a watch on that.
By Litigator
November 11, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
Is this shoddy “article” what passes for journalisim now at AJC? Blossman you are a disgrace. Here is the quote from Obama upon which Broun commented, which you chose to leave out, which is indeed quite problematic for those who believe in the Constitution (I am sure there are still 10 of us) “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we set. We gotta have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” Senator Barack Obama during a speech given in Colorado Springs, July of this year.
By Duane Gross
November 11, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
I agree with Rep Paul Braun and am amazed that Jay Bookman has nothing to offer but name calling.
By Soothsayer
November 11, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Soixante, you make a fine sheep.
By Secessionist
November 11, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
Do you freely share these opinions with your Marine Corp buddies? I somehow doubt it, as you must be about the only hardcore lefty veteran I’ve ever heard of…
By WhatTheHolyHeck
November 11, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
I cannot believe that people are actually defending this nutjob.
Holy crap.
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
You should get out more.
There probably are very few in Ruby Ridge…
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
Ask Yourself
As Sarah Palin and her husband participated in a party whose platform was to secede from The United States, why was there no uproar against such anti-patriotic activity?
Have there been any death threats reported against Palin?
Why the double standard in the interpretation of the words of Paul Broun?
Broun is stupid and anti-American for promoting treason against the Office of The President of The United States.
Anyone who thinks his words are to be followed or a road map for the future needs to be seriously questioned by the same people who chant
USA, USA, USA!
By MHS
November 11, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Give us a break Jay. Cynthia and you both come up with stuff just as crazy and less in fact then this all the time.
By SaveOurRepublic
November 11, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Secessionist @ 5:41 PM - Far be it for me to play “peacemaker”, but AmVet strikes me as more of a Libertarian (who may lean left of center). Like myself, AmVet has disdain for phoney conservatives (Neocons) who’ve hoodwinked much of the (well meaning) populace (*largely via their mouthpiece propaganda agency “Faux” News). While our reasons vary (mine being for the Neocon’s embrace of a Globalist agenda, “Free” Trade, Amnesty/NAU & an interventionist platform), we know the Neocons are NOT true conservatives.
That being said, I personally distrust Obama immensely & feel he indeed leans towards socialism/Marxist. I voted for neither RINO “Juan McAmnasty” or “Bacrock Obuma”, as they’re two sides of the same coin. I supported Constitutional Party candidate Dr.Chuck Baldwin.
P.S. - Thanks to all you vets out there for your service!!!
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this
What Can Broun Do For You?
There go the tickets to The Inauguration
It’s Party Time!
Good Morning In America!
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
And Joe Biden is a closet trans-sexual
One sunny day in 2009 an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue , where he’d been sitting on a park bench.
He spoke to the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, ‘I would like to go in and meet with President Bush. The Marine looked at the man and said, ‘Sir, Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides here.’
The old man said, ‘Okay’ and walked away.
The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, ‘I would like to go in and meet with President Bush. ‘The Marine again told the man, ‘Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides here.’ The man thanked him and, again, just walked away.
The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U. S. Marine, saying ‘I would like to go in and meet with President Bush. ‘The Marine, somewhat agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, ‘Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Bush. I’ve told you already that Mr. Bush is no longer the president and no longer resides here. Don’t you understand? ‘The old man looked at the Marine and said, ‘Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.’
The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, ‘See you tomorrow, sir.’
By Fred
November 11, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
If we follow Rep Broun’s argument to its logical conclusion and Obama is Hitler then who is the master race and who are the Jews? Such ignorance. No wonder people think southerners are so backwards
Fred
By Dee
November 11, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Have any of the people who read this blog read the AP article for which the quote was given by Mr. Broun? This blog doesn’t mis-represent Mr. Broun’s statement at all.
Along with everything else, I’d like to point out that Hitler wasn’t a Marxist, so I’m not quite sure why Mr. Broun is confusing the two.
By jules
November 11, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
AmVet you talk like a punk. (If you are really a vet, and were ever deployed). Maybe you were just a stateside paper shuffler that now goes around talking tough. You show NO respect to our CnC. I’m active duty, and have met no one that shares your stupid opinions in the USN. I know a number of Marines, and they’d also tell you to STFU double quick.
Maybe you’re just a Murtha type Marine…
By Midori
November 11, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
How appropos — tonight on Frontline: The Lee Atwater Story.
On PBS at 9 p.m.
Maybe Broun will be watching to get some more tips: “How to slime popular, competent leaders in 10 easy lessons”.
p.s. to Secessionist — there are a whole bunch of us “hardcore, lefty liberal” veterans.
I hope that thought causes you to sleep with a flashlight at night.
BOO
By BobV
November 11, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
Of course this retarded article completely misquotes him. But judging by the title I knew this article would be crap.
He was saying the potential is there, and it’s something we should all keep in mind. This is good common sense advise for ANYONE WITH A LOT OF POWER.
Wake up already sheep
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
Dee - most people in Georgia could not tell you the difference between Marxism and The Marx Brothers.
Broun is David Duke’s second cousin.
Just the thought of Barack Obama, President of the United States simply infuriates stupid people
Meanwhile, the country moves into the future with a large job ahead. The mood in Washington DC is optimistic and The Lincoln Memorial is a great place to think about the possibilities, as thousands gather to talk like adults.
Broun looks backwards and encourages other stupid people to follow.
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
jules, no worries. I was defending this country when somebody was changing your sh!tty diapers.
Just keep your head in the sand. And get a few more decades of life experience and then come back and talk to me…
By Verlan
November 11, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this
Laugh now but let’s see how you really feel 1 or 2 years from now. The gentleman is not crazy. just read Obama’s books
By dave
November 11, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
you can call the south all the name’s you want, at least we where smart enought not to let him win down here,why because we listened to the dribble and bull that was coming out of his mouth, while the rest of you where getting tingles up your legs and tear coming out your eyes. he is no messiah. he is not a king that rules. if you all think nothing can happen then why did he try to stop any one that said anything bad during the campaign with treat’s of having license’s pulled. belive what you want. some of us will belive what can be. still have freedom of speech for awhile anyway.
By dave
November 11, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
you can call the south all the name’s you want, at least we where smart enought not to let him win down here,why because we listened to the dribble and bull that was coming out of his mouth, while the rest of you where getting tingles up your legs and tear coming out your eyes. he is no messiah. he is not a king that rules. if you all think nothing can happen then why did he try to stop any one that said anything bad during the campaign with treat’s of having license’s pulled. belive what you want. some of us will belive what can be. still have freedom of speech for awhile anyway.
By dave
November 11, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
you can call the south all the name’s you want, at least we where smart enought not to let him win down here,why because we listened to the dribble and bull that was coming out of his mouth, while the rest of you where getting tingles up your legs and tear coming out your eyes. he is no messiah. he is not a king that rules. if you all think nothing can happen then why did he try to stop any one that said anything bad during the campaign with treat’s of having license’s pulled. belive what you want. some of us will belive what can be. still have freedom of speech for awhile anyway.
By dave
November 11, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
you can call the south all the name’s you want, at least we where smart enought not to let him win down here,why because we listened to the dribble and bull that was coming out of his mouth, while the rest of you where getting tingles up your legs and tear coming out your eyes. he is no messiah. he is not a king that rules. if you all think nothing can happen then why did he try to stop any one that said anything bad during the campaign with treat’s of having license’s pulled. belive what you want. some of us will belive what can be. still have freedom of speech for awhile anyway.
By dave
November 11, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
you can call the south all the name’s you want, at least we where smart enought not to let him win down here,why because we listened to the dribble and bull that was coming out of his mouth, while the rest of you where getting tingles up your legs and tear coming out your eyes. he is no messiah. he is not a king that rules. if you all think nothing can happen then why did he try to stop any one that said anything bad during the campaign with treat’s of having license’s pulled. belive what you want. some of us will belive what can be. still have freedom of speech for awhile anyway.
By dave
November 11, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
you can call the south all the name’s you want, at least we where smart enought not to let him win down here,why because we listened to the dribble and bull that was coming out of his mouth, while the rest of you where getting tingles up your legs and tear coming out your eyes. he is no messiah. he is not a king that rules. if you all think nothing can happen then why did he try to stop any one that said anything bad during the campaign with treat’s of having license’s pulled. belive what you want. some of us will belive what can be. still have freedom of speech for awhile anyway.
By Where Are Your Heads???
November 11, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this
On behalf of Mr. Broun, that is what is sounds like to a lot of people, democrats and republicans. I also read another article where someone made the same accusations and it wasn’t Mr. Brown. Actually to be honest with you many have stated it through different news outlets. Apparently none of you have read his real plan, huh!!! Well guess what, you can’t!! It was on OBAMA’s change.gov web site and it said you were required to do this and there would be a training camp, but after many people starting complaining about it, some of the wording was changed and then it disappeared all together. Go check it out for yourself. Here Obama’s Plan for those who haven’t read it:
H.R.393 : To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make permanent the favorable treatment afforded combat pay under the earned income tax credit, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/10/2007) Cosponsors (2) Committees: House Armed Services; House Ways and Means Latest Major Action: 2/26/2007 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Military Personnel.
Obama/Biden Plan:
Americans Not Asked to Serve After 9/11: President Bush squandered an opportunity to mobilize the American people following 9/11 when he asked Americans only to go shopping.
Insufficient Federal Support for Service: While more than 500,000 people have served in AmeriCorps, the program turns away tens of thousands of applicants a year because of limited funding.
Need for More R&D in Nonprofit Sector: Research and development in the nonprofit sector is limited and there is a disconnect between charitable foundations that can fund innovation and the organizations on the ground that can test new concepts and bring them to scale.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden’s Plan Enable All Americans to Serve to Meet the Nation’s Challenges Expand Corporation for National and Community Service: Obama and Biden will expand AmeriCorps from 75,000 slots today to 250,000 and they will focus this expansion on addressing the great challenges facing the nation. They will establish a Classroom Corps to help teachers and students, with a priority placed on underserved schools; a Health Corps to improve public health outreach; a Clean Energy Corps to conduct weatherization and renewable energy projects; a Veterans Corps to assist veterans at hospitals, nursing homes and homeless shelters; and a Homeland Security Corps to help communities plan, prepare for and respond to emergencies. Engage Retiring Americans in Service on a Large Scale: Older Americans have a wide range of skills and knowledge to contribute. Obama and Biden will expand and improve programs that connect individuals over the age of 55 to quality volunteer opportunities. Expand the Peace Corps: Obama and Biden will double the Peace Corps to 16,000 by 2011. They will work with the leaders of other countries to build an international network of overseas volunteers so that Americans work side-by-side with volunteers from other countries. Show the World the Best Face of America: Obama and Biden will set up an America’s Voice Initiative to send Americans who are fluent speakers of local languages to expand our public diplomacy. They also will extend opportunities for older individuals such as teachers, engineers, and doctors to serve overseas.
By jules
November 11, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
Spoken like a typical loudmouth ignorant big-bellied short timer that holds court at the local AmVets bar every afternoon. I’ve got 29 years in. You? I thought so… The only thing s** here is your attitude
Stand down!
By AmVet
November 11, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
Ah, the proverbial brain dead, Bush boot-licking lifer.
My condolences…
By Retired Catholic
November 11, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
Broun’s commenst, as well as the rabble rousing rhetoric of Sarah Palin, Rush, Savage, Cunningham and others are nothing more than dog whistle calls to the “Phineas Prieshood” to move against Barrak Obama. The Secret Service is currently tracking more than a dozen such vigilante plots already. Somewhere, Richard Kelly Hoskins, is nodding from somewhere in his febrile brain.
By Obubba
November 11, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this
Why would anyone want to take out Obama? After all, if they did, then a major league tool like Biden would be President.
By Don
November 11, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this
Georgia just keeps on electing wacko right-wingers to Congress. And they manage to make fools of themselves, but that just seems to make them even more beloved by their constituents. Broun will wear this op/ed piece like a badge. And then we have Chambliss, the 6 deferment guy during Vietnam, who ran what John McCain called a despicable Ad against Cleland. Now Chambliss is in a runoff against another Vietnam veteran. So who’s coming down to campaign for Chambliss? John McCain!!. Yeah, McCain, that’s sure putting Country and Honor First!.
By usapatri8
November 11, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this
Achtung, Paul! Per your alert, we must look out for large black men in uniform with armbands complete with three red sixes! Thanks for the alert, comrade! I hope you escape arrest and do not end up undergoing rendition for interrogation in some Gulag in Siberia!
I’m loading my automatic weapons NOW!
Wow, it sounds as if Obama was mentioning the National Guard (which all seems deployed in Iraq, etc.). Maybe you should re-read history and draw current comparisons to fascism and your precious Bush administration. Very parallel, I must say! I hope your electorate recalls you home from Washington, you ignorant soul.
By Bill Schroeder
November 11, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this
What about John Lewis claiming John McCain is a racist? What about John Lewis getting all the attention on the friday before the election with his insane demand for weekend voting when he did not even know the law?
Since your paper has become nothing but a tool of the Democratic Party, I have canceled my subscription. While I will continue to read for free online, I can at least know my money is not going to support the editorial board of the AJC. I hate to think how many employees of the AJC do not have job today because of the disgust the average Georgian has for the AJC. Your circulation will soon rival that of the local weekly Roswell paper.
By HerbK
November 11, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this
Typical GOP garbage - they will spew the crap in there favor & stir the pot. The gop has been chock full of lies and deceit for years, yet they deny it. They are no longer relevant and Thank God for that. When they gain a sensible head, maybe we’ll listen…….
By usapatri8
November 11, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this
To Bill Schroeder: Bill, the secret Gestapo knows you live in Roswell. and they know your name! Never use your real name and indicate your local newspaper! Now those large black men can come and take you away! Keep looking over your shoulder.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
Dee - most people in Georgia could not tell you the difference between Marxism and The Marx Brothers.
Broun is David Duke’s second cousin.
Just the thought of Barack Obama, President of the United States simply infuriates stupid people
Meanwhile, the country moves into the future with a large job ahead. The mood in Washington DC is optimistic and The Lincoln Memorial is a great place to think about the possibilities, as thousands gather to talk like adults.
Broun looks backwards and encourages other stupid people to follow.
By usapatri8
November 11, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this
Thank you, misterearl, for interjecting a mature level of discussion into this discourse! Amen!
By Soixante huitard
November 11, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
Georgia just keeps on electing wacko right-wingers to Congress. And they manage to make fools of themselves, but that just seems to make them even more beloved by their constituents.
And there you have it — the history of the American South.
By metoo
November 11, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this
I believe some of these right wingers are afraid that Obama and the Dem’s are going to show them how the government should work. All they have left is their dirty comments (see Rush and Sean).
If they are not going to help this country get out of this mess, then shutup and get out of the way.
By jules
November 11, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this
AmVet, that’s the best you can do? All mouth- If your so-called “code of honor” includes stabbing all current Marines in the back with your support of BO and puerile insults of the CNC, then you have a good deal left to learn.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 11, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
This is like when Black Bart, the new sheriff of Rock Ridge, was riding into town and Gabby Johnson kept trying to tell the townspeople, “the sheriff is a n-“-and the bell drowned him out. The Republinazis have been defeated but they keep on shouting their lies. That’s just what Republinazis do. Klan activity is up. Gun sales are going through the roof. The Republinazis, as exemplified by Heir Broun, are spreading male, bovine, fecal material. They say Obama isn’t one of us. He’s different and is to be feared. It is Heir Broun and the other Republinazis we have to fear. They’ve ruined the country and they are bitter that they won’t get to keep doing it. It’s time for the Republinazi filth to shut up and get out of the way. Broun and the rest of them don’t even know what a Marxist is. They are ignorant proponents of fascism and their time is up!
By jimh
November 11, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
Heaven help us…Is this guy really in Congress?
By Goldie
November 11, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
jules @ 7:46 — are you really trying to post for “all current Marines” on this blog? Really???
By Goldie
November 11, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
All you sore losers here need to start practicing the following:
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.
You only have a little over 2 months to get that memorized. Practice, practice!
By mark
November 11, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
Dear Sir, Why do only Democrats get a free pass? President Bush has been called a Nazi for 8 years,and probaly will be called one even after he’s dead. You are never outraged about that nor do you ever call any Bush critic crazy!When we see outrage from you about that I for one will take you seriously.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
For All Fearful People
Think of it this way, when Tiger Woods exploded on the golf scene, the entire sport came to life. The game prospered with the increased media coverage of the sport. Fans went crazy. Golf became exciting and more profitable for ALL players on the PGA Tour. It was a win-win situation.
Now think of the United States, united by a message of service to country and responsibility to family values such as education. Think of an inspired citizenry, motivated to work for change and linked to the government via new media.
Imagine having a say in decision via your computer or your PDA. Then again, if you don’t understand what a PDA is, you don’t get it.
Think of the possibilities on the global stage with leaders who respect the US and an enlightened point of view expressed by a President who can communicate past a third grade level..
Then again, you can always cling to your Conferderate Flag and wish for the return of slavery.
Deal with it, stupid people of earth. Barack Obama is smarter than you are and smart is good.
By Hey Soose
November 11, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this
That was a very ignorant thing to say. I’m totally amazed that a representative could be that stupid. On the other hand, though, I will say to some in here, you have no right to criticize the name calling after some of the vile names you’ve called the President and each other over the years.
By Say What?
November 11, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this
Gee, nobody asked my permission to spend my tax dollars on a war based on lies. There was more than a little Hitler in initiating a pre-emptive strike against a country that posed no danger.
Herr Broun, you are a disgrace to our newly revived nation. And sadly, you speak for a majority of Georgians, evidently.
By Tony
November 11, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this
Well, it has started. Any criticism of President-Elect Obama is called racist and any critic is accused of being in the Klan. I agree that Representative Broun’s comment was over the top. However, when John Lewis compares John McCain to Bull Connor and George Wallace, there is not a sound from the liberals. All we are looking for is a little consistency. So far there has been none.
By the way, income redistribution is a main principle of Marxism.
By Secessionist
November 11, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
That’s right, misterearl, this is all about having a black President. That’s all some folks care about, isn’t it?
It doesn’t matter what BO believes in, doesn’t matter where he came from, doesn’t matter who he associated with, doesn’t matter what he intends to do with the country. It only matters that he is black and is President. He will get a free pass to say/do anything he likes, and anyone who disagrees is a racist.
We are in deep doo-doo.
By JR
November 11, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
misterearl, You say that people are scared because Obama is smarter than they are. My My what a little racist you are to suggest that’s it rare to have a smart black person!
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
JR - as a matter of fact. I never mentioned Barck Obama’s race.
Try this on for size while you whistle Dixie
To the Editor:
There is, at the moment, a gorgeous bloom on the Obama rose. Every columnist and blogger — right, left and in the middle — is filled with great expectations and advice for the Obama administration. But that bloom can wither away in a heartbeat.
Barack Obama is not a magician; he is not a political alchemist. He cannot turn Bush rust into Obama gold overnight. His “to do” list is agonizingly long and tough. We have every reason to revel in the moment, but if we don’t take a deep breath and pitch in for the long haul, this remarkable, purely American political achievement will have gone to waste. Peter C. Alkalay
Scarsdale, N.Y., Nov. 9, 2008
By Ray
November 11, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this
Most liberal senator in DC for the past two years; radical associates; twenty years listening to anti-American rants from Reverend Wright; radical, left-wing, socialist agenda; willingness to placate our enemies; radical abortionist (supports infanticide); proposed national security force that reports only to him; anti-gun ownership; anti-Christian, etc. etc. etc. And you left-wing kool-aid drinkers complain about president Bush; at least he has kept us safe for 7 years, more then Hussein will. God help us all.
By GaLiberal
November 11, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this
Moron Jim Wooten talks (whines is more like it) about the Angry Left. That wacko completely overlooks the nutballs and loonies that run the Rethuglicon party. It’s their values and ideals that Moron Jim embraces which speaks volumes about Moron Jim both professionally and personally. This big mouthed Rethuglicon is just using the Rove/Atwater play book of fear and lies. Of course, this works well on the Rethuglicon base - skinheads, KKK members, religoNazis, and the small and simple minded. That explains all the posts by Rethuglicon bootlickers like Tony and AJC/DNC Management. Keep up the good work!
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Paul Broun of Athens is living proof.
By Ray
November 11, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this
misterearl…I could give a rats a** what the rest of the world thinks; in fact, when I have secular Europe telling me to vote for someone, I’m inclined to vote for the opposing candidate. Europe was tripping over themselves endorsing the messiah; thus my proud vote for McCain, a true American hero who would have lead us to greatness, not some left-wing nut job who’s personal agenda is the destruction of all this nation holds dear.
By Ray
November 11, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this
misterearl…I could give a rats a** what the rest of the world thinks; in fact, when I have secular Europe telling me to vote for someone, I’m inclined to vote for the opposing candidate. Europe was tripping over themselves endorsing the messiah; thus my proud vote for McCain, a true American hero who would have lead us to greatness, not some left-wing nut job who’s personal agenda is the destruction of all this nation holds dear.
By swolf
November 11, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
Paul Broun needs to just rol himself up in one of his cowpatties and go back to sleep untill some “real issue” rears it’s ugly head… like tha slaes of Playboy and Penthouse on military bases (and I do believe that is the ONLY bill he has ever sponsored.) We got us another complete idiot in a Georgia office again folks.
By Ray
November 11, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
misterearl….we can only hope that this “purely American political achievement” (ie, socialism, radicalism, anti-Americanism) will go to waste. Nobama, not my president. Palin 2012.
By "The Corporal"
November 11, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=123470&catid=40
Speaks for itself ………..
By JR
November 11, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this
misterearl, True, you didn’t mention he was black but I do think from your post about the KKK you do realize he is. Also you never said you were a card carrying member of the stupid club but believe me you are the poster child!
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this
Secessionist - Barack Obama is Black?
Oh snap!
By JR
November 11, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this
misterearl Your brain snapped? Again?
By Hey Soose
November 11, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this
Is there a full moon tonight?
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
BOO
JR - you funny.
I wish something you said actually had a point of view but I cannot, for the life of me, find it.
Does saying United States President Barack Obama scare the hell out of you?
Ray - have you ever travelled outside of the US?
If so, what countries have you visited?
By WAKEUP
November 11, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
I fear any government that is lead by a man who gets a free pass by the media simply because of his color. Regardless if you agree with Broun or not, to squelch dissent is to squelch democracy. Balance of power is the hallmark of democracy. I fear we are headed in the opposite direction. When you see jubilant Obama supporters waving a Soviet flag in front of the White House and it’s a non-issue with the media, we are in trouble. The radical left wing has taken the executive branch, the legislative branch, and soon the judicial branch will be packed with left wing radicals. As for the propaganda machine, no Goebbels needed. The left wing press already has things well in hand. How long will Patriots remain complacent ? Hopefully well before individual freedoms are trampled on. It’s a bitter pill to swallow, but the cost of freedom is and has always been, blood. Let’s all pray it doesn’t come to that because the general public is too apathetic to even consider that possibility at present. We are all ripe for the picking.
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism”
By JR
November 11, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this
misterearl, The (futire) United States President Barack Obama saying one of his first orders of business is to eliminate the secret ballot for a union vote scares the hell out of me and it should you!
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
JR - we will work on your cultural comprehension skills over the coming years.
“OH SNAP!” would equate to “no kidding” or something like a “I shoulda had a V8!” moment.
Stay with me dude, you might learn something.
Are you coming to the Inauguration with the 250,000+ proud Americans on The National Mall with tickets?
I might be able to hook you up.
By Ray
November 11, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this
misterearl, What does traveling outside the U.S. have to do with anything? Why should I travel outside the U.S.; I have everything I need right here. I certainly do not need to travel to some secular, pansy nation to validate myself or to realize that Obama is dangerous. In fact, I am quite disturbed at how our so-called “friends” have treated us over the past 7 years. Honestly, as far as I’m concerned, they can all take a flying leap. We certainly don’t need them telling us who should be our president.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this
JR - are you still scared of boogey men hiding under your bed?
Wakeup - don’t be such a crybaby
By Ray
November 11, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
misterearl, What does traveling outside the U.S. have to do with anything? Why should I travle outside the U.S.; I have everything I need right here. I certainly do not need to travel to some secular, pansy nation to validate myself or to realize that Obama is dangerous. In fact, I am quite disturbed at how our so-called “friends” have treated us over the past 7 years. Honestly, as far as I’m concerned, they can all take a flying leap, and we certainly don’t need them telling us who should be our president.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this
Ray - travel is an outstanding source of education. You know, the world is larger than Sanford Stadium.
Besides, there are some fantastic museums, great cusine, different points of view, exotic sounds, creative thinkers and some really nice people.
Then again, if Homer Simpson is your role model, I can’t argue with that.
By JR
November 11, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this
misterearl, So you don’t believe in secret ballots?
By Scholar
November 11, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this
Ray,
You and your kind are no longer relevant. You are just sad curiosities best left to spending their time blogging away while the rest of the world moves on to a new and better chapter.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
Don’t Look Back
JR - where DO you get your mis-information?
If you think secret ballots are at the top of Barack Obama’s agenda you need to stop listening to that self-officious blowhard Rush Limbaugh and open a book (or do some fact-based research) for a change.
What are you so scared of?
C’mon, what are you, a man or a mouse?
You are embarrasing yourself in front of millions of veterans (past and present) who stared down demons that were much more threatening and dangerous. You are giving the lagacy of American courage a bad name.
You might need to take a deep breath, put down the scardee-cat routine and man-UP on Janauary 20.
“The only thing to fear is fear itself”
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this
Real News
Barack Obama campaigned as an anti-Washington candidate, and the leader of his presidential transition team made it clear that the president-elect would seek to build on that theme over the next two months.
His transition chief, John D. Podesta, announced a set of broad regulations yesterday that ban federal lobbyists from participating in Obama’s transition, saying the move is designed to ensure “that the undue influence of Washington lobbyists and the revolving door of Washington ceases to exist.”
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this
Secret Ballots?
Really?
Obama moved rapidly last week to name his chief of staff, plucking Illinois Rep. Rahm Emanuel from Congress less than two days after winning election. No other major personnel or Cabinet announcements are expected until next week, at the earliest. But aides said Obama still intends to move more quickly than most of his predecessors, with several top Cabinet posts filled quickly, perhaps by the end of the month. The first Cabinet announcements are widely anticipated to include the Treasury and defense secretaries.
Podesta said no president other than George H.W. Bush had announced a Cabinet choice before December. And he said prior presidents have seen a maximum of 24 members of their Cabinet and sub-Cabinet officials confirmed by the end of March, a number he called “simply inadequate” for a country that is facing major economic and foreign policy challenges.
“The country’s experiencing two wars. We have ongoing threat from al-Qaeda. We’ve got a financial crisis that we need to cope with, and we’ve got to get the economy moving again. So, we intend to move with all due speed, and we hope that the Senate will, as well.”
That is a President-Elect at work
By JR
November 11, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this
misterearl, I don’t listen to talk radio or Fox news so you can cram that. I also have spent more than 18 months out of the last 8 years traveling out of the country so I will put my travels up against yours. The fact is you know very little about Obama if you don’t know his pledge to his union supporters. Grow a pair and do some research of your hero, nothing is more stupid than you denying what he has said!
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this
JR - Union members?
C’mon, what are you so angry about?
Try decaf
By Ray
November 11, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
Scholar, If by “new and better chapter” you mean Godlessness and moral relativism, then you can have it. Myself, I’ll continue to go to church on Sunday, raise my kids appropriately, teach them that marriage is between a man and a woman, that abortion is wrong, that you keep what you earn, and that radical socialists are ALWAYS a negative influence on the world; why not try studying some; perhaps you’ll see the patterns.
By JR
November 11, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
misterearl. Since you like to deny the truth I think you have a problem with your hero on this. Here’s is part of an article from the Washing Post. Uou can go there and read the rest. So are you with him or against him on secret ballots?
Legislation that would make it more difficult for workers to hold a private ballot vote in unionization drives, which critics say would lead to harassment and intimidation, has spurred a pitched battle between powerful labor unions supportive of Sen. Barack Obama and big business in the presidential campaign.
Seen by the AFL-CIO as a way to boost union rolls by hundreds of thousands of new members, the hotly-contested bill has become this year’s No. 1 election issue for organized labor. Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has promised union bosses that the Employee Free Choice Act will become law in 2009 if he wins the presidency in November.
“We’re ready to play offense for organized labor. It’s time we had a president who didn’t choke saying the word ‘union.’ A president who strengthens our unions by letting them do what they do best: organize our workers,” Mr. Obama told the AFL-CIO in Philadelphia on April 2.
“I will make it the law of the land when I’m president of the United States,” Mr. Obama told the labor federation
By Andrew
November 11, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
Paul Broun is a god-awful embarrassment and insult to ALL Georgians, be they red, blue,black, white, hispanic, whatever.
If this is the kind of “leadership” we can expect from the GOP, look forward to more D’s in Congress in 2010.
By misterearl
November 11, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
JR - secret, schmecret.
Are you really such a chicken-liver hearted chump that you, like Broun, equate Obama with Hitler?
Your obtuse point about so-called “secret” ballots is ridiculous.
Georgia?
Sheesh.
By Scholar
November 11, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
Ray,
Wouldn’t the Romans have considered Jesus to be a “radical socialist”?
“and that radical socialists are ALWAYS a negative influence on the world”
Good night.
By Andrew
November 11, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
ANd for all of the wingnuts who are already lining up to attack Obama, I have one thing to say. If you don’t like it, get the hell out.
Remember, its okay to have a fascist dictator run the country, as long as they are a Republican.
By BlondeHoney
November 11, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
All of you on both ideological sides amuse me, however those of you in the extreme right wing scare the hell out of me. Let me explain our form of government to you because it’s obvious none of you advanced beyond elementary school…we have a system of CHECKS and BALANCES that nazi germany, et al did not have in place. All of you who defend Broun’s comments prove why this sorry backwards state is LAST in everything. I have a news flash for ALL of you…as much as you would like to ignore or worse yet repeal it, our United States Constitution (which you all profess to follow) mandates a (gasp) SEPARATION between church and state. Guess what…SOME of us don’t THINK exactly like you do. Which is what COMMUNISTS want us to do. Look in the mirror you right wing fascists…YOU are the real communist threat
By JR
November 11, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
Misterearl, You are so typical of the Obama supporters. You know nothing of what he stands for or who he is indebted to. You try to deflect questions you cannot answer with what you think is a glib reply which to everyone else only shows your ignorance. I will waste no more time with you, enjoy your life with blinders and earplugs!
By algonquin J. Calhoun
November 11, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
Blonde Honey, let me point out to you that several of them checks is wrote out to me. As Heir Broun pointed out, we caint have no Gummo Marx runnin’ our government. We all know that the economy is in shambles now. Over the last eight years, the brilliant Bush has put us ten trillion in debt. Our houses are not worth what we’re paying for the. Our prestige across the world has dropped to Savage nation status because of our lies, bellicosity, willingness to kill thousands of innocents and our arrogance about doing it. Many of the weaker willed nations have expressed revulsion at our instituting torture pits around the world. Well, to hell wif ‘em! We’re the Mighty New Nited States and we can do whatever we want, wherever we want. By God, we’re showin’ ‘em now what terrorism is all about! Obama got elected because he promised to redistribute the bills. Ain’t no wealth left to divvy up. He promised me a backyard beer volcano and, hot damn, you oughta see Old Faithful blow. I been drunk a solid week. now. I didn’t mind selling my vote. I got more for it this time than the two previous stolen elections!
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 11, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this
By mark November 11, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this Dear Sir, Why do only Democrats get a free pass? President Bush has been called a Nazi for 8 years,and probaly will be called one even after he’s dead. You are never outraged about that nor do you ever call any Bush critic crazy!When we see outrage from you about that I for one will take you seriously.
President George W. Hitler has engaged in Nazi behavior and is no better than the slime tried at Nuremberg. Here’s hoping he’ll be brought before the bar of justice, tried and given appropriate punishment! He is not only the worst president in history but is an unrepentant liar whose IQ is less than one hundred. He’s a complete fool!
By Robert
November 11, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this
BlondeHoney, There is no such thing as Separation between Church and State in the Constitution. Get your facts straight. I bet you know whats in every library in the world. Don’t you?
By Robert
November 11, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this
BlondeHoney, There is no such thing as Separation between Church and State in the Constitution. Get your facts straight. I bet you know whats in every library in the world. Don’t you?
By Robert
November 11, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this
What a bunch of intelligent IDIOTS!!!!
By KenFromCalifornia
November 12, 2008 12:47 AM | Link to this
he’s a graduate of the “cynthia mckinney school of getting america to see the truth as quickly as i can compose it”
obviously, he graduated tops in his class. i’m sure that congresswoman in minnesota went to that same school, too.
any wonder why the ever-dwindling republican base can’t recruit level-headed people to join their party?
By JR
November 12, 2008 1:04 AM | Link to this
KenFromCalifornia, Amazing you could take time from denying gay people their rights to take time to post here.
By quagmire
November 12, 2008 4:25 AM | Link to this
To the posters who say we invaded a country without UN authorization, you had better stop drinking the kool aid and do your reading in places other than here. There were at least a dozen UN mandates on Iraq. Iraq would thumb their nose at the mandates. Several times we approached the brink of an attack (Gasp!!!..even Clinton threatened Saddam) to enforce the mandates. Every time Saddam saw us getting ready to strike he would half heartedly comply. There were mandates in existence and enforcable. Put down your kool aid and find out, before you go spouting off about things you don’t know.
The left, for all of their sudden vision now that the haze has lifted, can do nothing more than shout down the people here, people who don’t view things through the rose colored glasses, that the left wears. Keep shouting down, that will show them. For the last several years, you crazed moonbats, when things weren’t going your way, were calling for the impeachment and imprisonment of Bush, among other horrible and disgusting actions. Now we all have to rally around your man Obama, because thats what you want. And heavens forbid that someone might disagree with you. Interesting detail, the left whined under Bush, now the right will exercise their right to whine under Obama, you had better get used to it. We had to listen to you for the last eight years. Well, it seems that your former jobs as whiners are now available and I as well as other people of the right, will take your vacant positions. See you around the way.
By quagmire
November 12, 2008 5:19 AM | Link to this
As far as Rep. Broun is concerned, if you are informed and well read, then you would know what kind of threat he speaks of. Obama did say - on video - that he wants to establish a civilian national paramilitary force that will be larger than the military, better funded and better equipped. If its going to be used for a humanitarian missions, why compare it to the military. Why better equipped than the military. Will it be with equipped with armor, air power, rifles, cannons? Why even say it in the first place, he said now we want answers. Why do you feel the need to defend him, when he placed his own foot in his mouth. What about funding this paramilitary force? At the expense of healthcare programs, mortgage bailouts, auto industry bailouts and his promises of utopia?
If you wonder why many here question his statements, look at his friends Ayers and Dorhn, and the communist manifesto that they wrote called PRAIRIE FIRE. Interesting reading, if you want to be a communist, and should be of deep concern to everyone else. Nobody sees little red flags waving crazy here. Obama organizers with pictures of the coward Che hanging in election HQ. Farrakhan calling him the messiah. Twenty years sitting in a pew listening to Wright spew anti American hatred. This same man is also friends with Farrakhan, who is friends with Rezko, who is friends with Khalidi of the PLO. Then there is Saudi loving al-Mansour. So many red flags, yet people continue to swoon for Obama. A quote from Dr. Karl Alexander von Mueller, who attended the Beer Hall Putsch, where Hitler spoke to the crowd: “I cannot remember in my entire life such a change in the attitude of a crowd in a few minutes, almost a few seconds … Hitler had turned them inside out, as one turns a glove inside out, with a few sentences. It had almost something of hocus-pocus, or magic about it.” Learn from history or be prepared to repeat it.
By DHS from Athens
November 12, 2008 6:30 AM | Link to this
The braying of a jackass. Broun is the type of republican that got the republicans kicked out of office. His career and credibility, already tittering, is OVER. Thankfully.
By norman ravitch
November 12, 2008 7:04 AM | Link to this
Republicans called FDR everything from communist to fascist yet he saved capitalism from both isms. He was the best friend Georgians, black and white, ever had. Obama has the same challenge. He made do as well as FDR. But no good deed goes unpunished. At best, Republicans are simply greedy; at worst they are fascistic and racist.
By Troothsayer
November 12, 2008 7:12 AM | Link to this
The 57 million fools who chose this rode will not pay the price because a vast majority of them can’t pay their cell phone bill. Too bad this man cannot defend his words. The idiot elected president has a mandate. A mandate to do anything he likes and get away with it cause he is so great…………..
By Redneck
November 12, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this
To all the posters above, both pro and con, the facts of the matter is that BHO said he wanted a federal police force as strong as the military. He did not even tell us why. As one who always looks for motives in regards to what someone says I can only agree with congress Broun. As we have learned over the years, those who refuse to learn a lesson from past history are doomed to repeat it!!!
There is enough history, both written and spoken, about BHO that the freedom loving people of the great nation should keep a wary eye upon this glib empty suit!!!
By misterearl
November 12, 2008 7:21 AM | Link to this
For South, a Waning Hold on National Politics
NYTimes
Southern counties that voted more heavily Republican this year than in 2004 tended to be poorer, less educated and whiter, a statistical analysis by The New York Times shows. Mr. Obama won in only 44 counties in the Appalachian belt, a stretch of 410 counties that runs from New York to Mississippi. Many of those counties, rural and isolated, have been less exposed to the diversity, educational achievement and economic progress experienced by more prosperous areas.
Several Southern states, including Arkansas, Louisiana and Tennessee, have voted for the winner in presidential elections for decades. No more. And Mr. Obama’s race appears to have been the critical deciding factor in pushing ever greater numbers of white Southerners away from the Democrats.
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Race was a strong subtext in post-election conversations across the socioeconomic spectrum here in Vernon, the small, struggling seat of Lamar County on the Mississippi border.
One white woman said she feared that blacks would now become more “aggressive,” while another volunteered that she was bothered by the idea of a black man “over me” in the White House.
Mr. McCain won 76 percent of the county’s vote, about five percentage points more than Mr. Bush did, because “a lot more people came out, hoping to keep Obama out,” Joey Franks, a construction worker, said in the parking lot of the Shop and Save.
By misterearl
November 12, 2008 7:30 AM | Link to this
Applications Now Being Accepted!
Join The Federal Police Force Today
Redneck - your second-grade level comprehension skills are only eclipsed by your passion for ignorance.
You ever think that you could always apply for a good paying job with the so-called “Federal Police Force”?
Be all that you can be.
By Iconoclast
November 12, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this
…and we wonder how it is the patriarchs of the civil rights movement could have emerged from our neck of the woods?
The next time a hayseed Georgia politician deigns to throw gasoline on the now-cooling embers of racism and bigotry, they should look at how closely they are standing to the point of ignition.
By misterearl
November 12, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this
57 Million And Counting
Troothsayer - what do you think of Barack Obama’s Cabinet appointments so far?
Are you coming to Washington DC for the Inauguration?
There will be over 250,000 Americans on The National Mall celebrating the possibilities to get beyond hate and anger.
Another million or so will be chanting USA, USA
where will you be?
By bobfromcanton
November 12, 2008 7:38 AM | Link to this
I see no difference in his comments or the stupid comments our “former” pres. Jimmy C. has said. Nor any difference with the other d*&^a.. Dennis Kucinich(sp?). So you better what what you say, Jay.
By hotlanta
November 12, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this
Dang Obama haven’t even sat in the chair yet. It’s just amazing how Rev. Wright sound bite is played 24/7 but this guy sound bite was so quick if had blinked you would have missed it.
By misterearl
November 12, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this
bobfromcanton - do you agree with Broun?
Are you going to The Inauguration?
By Really Strange
November 12, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this
Oh For Crying Out Loud!!! And you want to know the sad thing? Broun was probably the best choice in the group running for his spot. I know I live in this hotbed of Republican, we’re dumb and proud of it, knuckledraggers. I think there were two of us that voted for Obama in this corner of the world. Plus - think of this - Broun’s territory includes UGA. Makes you wonder what’s going on over there too.
By Ashamed of Ga Congressman
November 12, 20