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The global symbolism of President Obama
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Desmond Tutu writes in today’s Washington Post:
“I am rubbing my eyes in disbelief and wonder. It can’t be true that Barack Obama, the son of a Kenyan, is the next president of the United States.
But it is true, exhilaratingly true. An unbelievable turnaround. I want to jump and dance and shout, as I did after voting for the first time in my native South Africa on April 27, 1994…
Today Africans walk taller than they did a week ago — just as they did when Nelson Mandela became South Africa’s first black president in 1994. Not only Africans, but people everywhere who have been the victims of discrimination at the hands of white Westerners, have a new pride in who they are. If a dark-skinned person can become the leader of the world’s most powerful nation, what is to stop children everywhere from aiming for the stars? ….
And the president-elect has one additional key quality: He is not George W. Bush. Because the Bush years have been disastrous for other parts of the world in many ways, Obama’s victory dramatizes the self-correcting mechanism that epitomizes American democracy.”




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Comments
By Eddy
November 9, 2008 7:03 AM | Link to this
So Desmond, how is it going in Zimbabwe, Uganda, Congo, Somalia, etc. ? Can’t blame all of the white Westerners for those situations, can you!
Under Bush’s administration, the US has provided aid and assistance to countries decimated by typhoons, earthquakes, wars, etc. but that still isn’t enough for you nor do you give any credit for those efforts. My 2cents is that we cut-off all foreign aid to all countries for a year…let’s see how that goes for the masses of the ungrateful.
Tutu’s comments are not surprising. Why not cleanup your own backyard before criticizing the US? PS….white Westerners are not running the countries mentioned above so where is your outrage at those disasters? Just another idiot in a very long line.
By Just_Me
November 9, 2008 7:08 AM | Link to this
Isn’t it nice to know that we’ve (the collective American voter) have evolved enough to look past pigment in choosing our leaders?
Tutu’s right—W’s legacy to the world is one of distrust and distaste. Currently reading “What Happened,” by Scott McClellan. Secrecy happened. Sneakiness, lies, and a whole host of other things that have tarnished our reputation. Once we were a country that others aspired to visit and be like. Now, we are reviled. In our electing Obama, I think the world no longer will see us as such an anglo-saxon country-one that truly is a land of opportunity for EVERYONE, regardless of skin tone.
Question: So, it took over 200 years to elect a brown-skinned man….how long before we elect a woman (other than Palin, the joke that keeps on giving)? A good friend of mine, a political junkie, told me flat out, “We will elect an African-American male before we ever elect a woman.” She is very astute…
Happy Sunday.
By Just_Me
November 9, 2008 7:14 AM | Link to this
Ah, Eddy—that is JUST the attitude/talk that has ruined our global reputation…
Let’s TRY to move past that, shall we. LOOK at what Tutu said, and tell me it’s not a BAD thing….
Jay quoted, and I quote him to reiterate:
* If a dark-skinned person can become the leader of the world’s most powerful nation, what is to stop children everywhere from aiming for the stars? ….*
How can you find fault in that logic? He’s not bashing America, but saying that once again, we can lead other nations to change. We can be role models, if you will, for all children, EVERYWHERE that they can achieve their goals, no matter how lofty, no matter your background.
As a teacher, I try to instill that every day. However, they are skeptical. Suddenly-I have children who would have NEVER expressed a desire to enter politics who have literally said to me, “Hey, I really CAN try to do this, can’t I?”
Let’s try lifting people up around the world, rather than remind them how beholden they are to us-as my mom always said, “you catch more flies with honey than vinegar….”
By Eric1
November 9, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this
No point in responding to Eddy. You cannot argue with a moron. It’s like beating your head against a wall.
By Michael Smith
November 9, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this
Well, Tutu, you may be “walking taller” today as a result of Obama’s election. But when his term in office ends in disaster — as it must, given his Marxist view of economics and his socialist view of ethics — will you then be “walking shorter”?
Anyone whose self-esteem is dependent on the achievments of others has no self-esteem — rather, he has only a pretence at self-esteem, which will evaporate as soon as the achievements of those others collapses.
You’re a collectivist and a racist, Desmond, and those two ideas of yours are what has kept millions of Africans in utter poverty for centuries.
By Ray
November 9, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this
Just_me,
Your comments are certainly with merit, although somewhat naive. Our “global reputation” means little to all but about 10 countries with which we have a relationship of “mutual interest”, as Kissinger put it. Heard an interview with Tutu on PBS the other day where he said, paraphrasing, that America was the most generous country in the world and the world’s most gracious to others with their aid, their concern for the plight of others and for their generosity in AIDS relief in Africa. His main gripe was that Bush was our president. Ted Koppel asked him rather pointedly if he loved and respected the US but just did not like it’s leader. He was reluctant to say so but agreed.
Just replacing Bush will lead to better relationships with other countries, whether Obama is president or not. But it never hurts to have a fellow socialist in the seats of power. Makes it all kind of warm and fuzzy, doesn’t it?
By "The Corporal"
November 9, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this
The United States is really the only hope for democracy in the world and it’s because we have been the only one strong enough to take on the bullies who would deny it to everyone.
We’ve seen what globalism has done for this country and the world through an organization like the U.N., now let’s watch and see what happens with a globalistic president who wants to appease everyone.
By spankmonkey
November 9, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this
Hmmm…
the US has become the bully of the world who routinely denies democracy to it’s own citizens.
Globalism is a natural offshoot of free market philosophies.
Funny that “globalism” is the bane of free marketers… Walmarts are chock FULL of conservatives.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
Our Founders saddled this great nation with the burden and monstrous criminality of slavery, an affront to the very words of our Declaration of Independence.
God then cursed our nation. Millions would die, live stunted lives, commit monstrous barbarities, many millions would lose their souls.
Some 200+ years later, after ten generations, Burack Hussein Obama is elected President of the same great nation.
“That One”, Senator, is “The One”.
The curse is lifted.
By No Propaganda
November 9, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this
Exactly, and global-market capitalists just love all that cheap(virtually slave) labor. “We take all your hard work, just don’t tell us how run our country.” Hypocrites.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
Continuing with “Biblical proportions”
Liars cast out to the darkness and wilderness…
By Chickadee
November 9, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
Actually folks it looks like our first bi-racial president was Warren Harding our 29th President. See New York Times April 6th 2008. Even though Harding denied that his great grandmother was black. His father-in-law disowned his daughter when she married Harding because in 1921 apparently mixed race marriage was frowned upon. Do a google search or wiki search and get the article for free. If you go directly to the New York Times they will charge you $3.95 for the archived article. Also I agree we need to cut off all foreign aid. We are BROKE! We need to stop the bailouts as well. Read President Hardings inagural address and his state of the union speeches. He had the strength to turn down the railroads and the farmers when they were looking for a handout/bailout. Because he turned them down the recession only lasted a year and our country enjoyed the “roaring 20’s”. Then the next President in 1930 lowered the value of the dollar with a bailout and the great depression lasted for 10 yrs. If we fail to learn from history we are DOOMED to repeat it.
By No Propaganda
November 9, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this
Trash, you should really stop speaking for God. You’re not qualified.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
Warren Gamaliel Harding will now be introduced to high school American History students by their teachers uttering the following phrase - “the most incompetent and corrupt President until George Walker Bush”.
By "The Corporal"
November 9, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
Appeasement will invite the Putin’s of the world to start WW III. If America is not economically, politically and militarily strong enough the world will suffer. You don’t get a second chance once it starts. Get your head out of the sand.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
No P - you are probably right - but I am way better qualified than 99.99% of the flaming yahoos your fellow Georgians are sitting in front of this fine Sunday morning in church. At least I am not speaking in tongues or asking you to play withe snakes.
It’s called satire, son. Lighten up, play along, or just read.
By No Propaganda
November 9, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
Ok, Pop! LOL
Oh, and Bush might be the most incompetent president ever, but Nixon was the most corrupt. ;)
By Mrs.Godzilla
November 9, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
Coffee’s hot and the smell of bacon in the kitchen is making Joe prance about in expectation.
For me, and my little family, the hope grows.
I like the selection of Rahmbo. It’s time to make it clear that we commie, pinko, Harpo Marxists are very serious about turning this country around.
Word out of the Obama camp is that they have targeted 200 “administration actions and executive orders that could be swiftly undone to reverse White House policies on climate change, stem cell research, reproductive rights and other issues”.
Exceedingly cool.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this
You might be right No P.
But the billions that have disappeared from our treasury to companies like Halliburton, Blackwater, etc., and the billions of dollars that vanished into thin air over in Iraq under Bremer’s maldaministration make Bush’s administration far more corrupt than Tricky Dick’s. Nixon was just trying to cover his own butt, Bush was letting his buddies loot hundreds of billions.
By Hey Soose
November 9, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, although I don’t agree with you on all you post, I do agree with you on this. It’s time things turn around in this country.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
It seems like everybody in the world - except those fine folks in the rural Deep Deep South, Appalachia, and the Ozarks - are excited by the prospect of President Obama.
Hey - here’s a thought - why don’t you folks gather your leading minds and intellects together and come up with a cogent white paper or some other analysis that states your case against Obama.
Anybody have a box of crayons?
By GOP is gone
November 9, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
I for one am delighted to have return of the worlds respect in our leader. 8 years of embarrassment was quite enough for me. We live in a country on a PLANET and we need to learn to live with everyone else. It was overwhelming to witness the global celebration of our nations change in command. I think that the global cheers that were raised are a testament to Obama and against Bush? While having a pint in Ireland in a small town pub, I met a 96 years old gentleman whose first question to me when finding out I was a Yank was “How can such a great country elect such and eeeediot?” (please say this with a strong Irish brogue) The point is America is still viewed as a great country but our leaders do matter to the rest of the world, even on pub stools in small towns. Now the Irish LOVE Americans and especially American Country music. There is nothing like hearing George Jones and Johnny Cash in traditional Irish pubs, and everyone knows all the words too.
Ray, I heard the same piece on NPR. I was a little surprised that you would listen to that liberal media. Did you happen to hear the debate/talk with the 5 past Secretaries of State? It was great. However, my hands down all time favorite is still Story Corps. It should be accessible through the National Archives or on NPR.org. If you have not heard any of the stories there, it is definitely worth a listen.
On a side note, I love Sunday mornings. There is so much to be said for strong dark roast coffee, a laptop and good music. Check out Amos Lee on Itunes, bluesy and folksy at the same time.
By Ray
November 9, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
GOP,
Also have shared a pint or two on fly fishing trips to Ireland and Scotland. The people are wonderful.
Listen to NPR every day…. about 4hrs of classical music while in my boatbuilding shop.
Sunday mornings are indeed a blessing.
By GOP is gone
November 9, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Oh and I forgot to mention the gorgeous blue skies and brightly colored leaves out my window. AAAHHH, Sundays.
By Hey Soose
November 9, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
GodHatesTrash, your ‘If you don’t agree with me, you’re stupid’ attitude is pretty ignorant. We’re all in this together, and people with your attitude is the very reason this country is so divided. Put your crayons down. They are toxic, and not edible.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
Come fly with us!
And finally cross that bridge to the 21st century.
I guess Tutu didn’t appreciate President Bush’s effort to fight AIDS in Africa that much. I doubt if W’s conservative base did either.
Our huge trade deficits are foreign aid in a sense and need to fulfill that obligation for us for decades to come or until we get our fiscal house in order.
Repealing all those signing statements would be a great place to start cleaning house. Republicans said the White House had to be fumigated when Clinton moved out. Obama might have to tear it down and rebuild it.
By GOP is gone
November 9, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
Hey God hates trash,
I do love your moniker! So true. Jesus was the ultimate “includer” which so many of his most ardent worshipers seem to ignore, sighting their own personal favorite biblical quotes to fit in to their own personal fear based minds. I think it all comes down to being shrouded by fear.
I have to agree that the Iraq war has fattened the pockets of companies tied to Cheney and Bush in some fashion. You are dead on with that mysterious disappearance of billions from Iraq. No bid contracts and cronyism, two of a long negative list of Bush’s legacies.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
You know, I am not directing these comments to anyone in particular, but there are worse things than be called stupid.
Like being brainwashed, like being duped, like repeatedly voting for liars, warmongers, and criminals.
Don’t let your hatred or anger towards me or anyone else stop you from atoning for your own defects of intellect and character.
By GOP is gone
November 9, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Have a nice morning all. Off to ride my bike when it warms up a little.
By ron
November 9, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Good morning,The global symbolism of Obama is that he’s universally a man of color.Everyone is writing about it.India Knight of the London Times is the latest I’ve read.
Robert Mugabe likes Obama. There’s an endorsement I could do without.The President of Iran called in congratulations.That should make the left all warm and fuzzy.India didn’t particularly care for Obama’s statements about Kashmir though.It seems there’s no pleasing some folk.
In the scheme of things in the future,will cries of “racism”echo across the counrty when someone opposes what Obama wants?His Presidency will be interesting to watch.
Also from The Londod Times this morning I read that English banks are refusing to pass interest rate cuts along to customers.That’s different than here where the banks have just refused to even have customers.That’s more basic.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Ray
November 9, 2008 7:33 AM
I missed your reference to AIDS on my first scan or wouldn’t have used it.
Since you enjoy classical music, did you per chance vote for someone other than McCain?
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
If there was a Jesus, GOP is gone, it seems He hated hypocrisy, especially the holier-than-thou type. According to the biblical tradition, the only time Jesus ever used force was in the Temple in Jerusalem, with the Pharisees and money-changers who were perverting Y-h’s word.
I don’t think the hubris and the militarism of our current Commander-in-Chief would have sat well with Jesus.
By Soixante huitard
November 9, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
And the president-elect has one additional key quality: He is not George W. Bush. Because the Bush years have been disastrous for other parts of the world in many ways, Obama’s victory dramatizes the self-correcting mechanism that epitomizes American democracy.
Yep, haven’t heard it said any better.
Dieu, je vous soupçonne d’ętre un intellectuel de gauche.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
I’d like to salute a couple of other American heroes this morning, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John Paul Stevens.
Ginsburg is 75, and had a serious bout with cancer in 1999. Despite her age and her illness, she stayed on the bench through our nation’s walk through the dangerous darkness of George W. Bush’s presidency.
Likewise, 88-year-old John Paul Stevens heroism in remaining on the Court, denying Bush an opportunity to further pollute our justice system, is something we can all be grateful for.
Thank you.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
You know, I hope that our new Congress entertains the repeal of the 25th Amendment.
No reason to deny Obama or William Jefferson Clinton, for that matter, the opportunity of a third term.
By Soixante huitard
November 9, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Dear God, I suspect you must be a left-wing intellectual.
(Non-)political joe of the day:
Gore Vidal, the bisexual author, was once asked whether his fist sexual experience was with a man or woman. ‘I don’t know, I was too polite too ask’.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 9:31 AM
If Condi hadn’t refused Richard Clarke a chance to thoroughly brief Bush on al Qaeda’s threat, he would have probably taken preemptive action before 09/11.
Instead of making that swatting at flies statement.
In that case his hubris and militarism would have served him/us well.
No doubt, Jesus walked on Earth. But was he the Son of God?
When some folks utter thank God, they are not referring to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. (For general consumption.)
By Soixante huitard
November 9, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
It’s a glorious Sunday. Did anyone read the big news about the changing hues of the metro?
Here’s an excerpt I posted last night:
I remember having the same exact thought expressed in this article one night not long before the election on driving through Kennesaw, where I was amazed to discover on Barrett Pkwy. that white faces in cars seemed not to be a large majority, not by a long shot. So I’m not suprised to see this observation born out.
At long last, politics are about to get competitive again here in the metro area. A very good thing.
The Democratic president-elect carried Douglas, Newton and Rockdale counties. Kerry, in the 2004 presidential election, lost all three to President Bush by huge margins. Obama also ran much closer in Cobb and Gwinnett counties, winning roughly 45 percent of the vote where Kerry only carried a third.
Demographers have long predicted that the steady migration of nonwhite voters into metro Atlanta’s once monolithically Republican suburbs would eventually transform them into politically competitive turf.
To some, Obama’s showing in these counties suggests this transformation might be taking place faster than previously predicted.
We are just one election cycle away from possible parity between Republicans and Democrats in Gwinnett and Cobb,” said Mark Rountree, a GOP political strategist based in Duluth.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
My wife is off to sing in church this morning.
They are singing Mendelssohn’s Blessed are They Who Hope and Trust in the Lord.
Amen to that, brothers and sisters!
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 9:45 AM
I’ve been having similar thoughts.
Could the last 7 years, 9 months and 20 days have been avoided?
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
That’s good news 68, but it pales in comparison to the fact that the 18-34 demographic went for Obama over 2 to 1.
It means that decades of education and economic development started by FDR’s New Deal are finally having an impact on the hearts and minds of even our most backward citizens. It also means that Civil Rights movement of the 1960s was not for naught, that the racism and fear-mongering of the Southern Strategery Republicans is headed for the dustbin of history.
By Hey Soose
November 9, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
GodHatesTrash, same old thing from you over and over again…don’t think like me, you’re intellectually defective. Love the logic. I can now see why you are so well loved in here. (That’s sarcascm in case you don’t understand)
By Hey Soose
November 9, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Soixante huitard, amen to that! Maybe with more ocmpetition, those running will HAVE to actually do something for the folks once in office for a change.
By Ray
November 9, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Gelding,
There are still those of us who believe that classical music is the only true “music”. A lot of people would disagree with us but….. Interesting how Mr. Wonderful will deal with Africa. With Liberia being about the only civilized country on the continent since Charles Taylor left, he will have to establish some kind of foreign policy with countries in severe strife, at war, starving and without the usual things that interest us in dealing with foreign governments. Nigeria is about the only country with any established oil reserves so we will have a definite interest in whether they live or die. But what’s after that? How many of our tax dollars are going to end up in the pockets and Swiss bank accounts of banana dictators like Amin, Charles Taylor and Ferdinand Marcos? Africa will need some special treatment…. hope the Annointed One will do what he can to make it happen.
By Soixante huitard
November 9, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
That’s good news 68, but it pales in comparison to the fact that the 18-34 demographic went for Obama over 2 to 1.
It means that decades of education and economic development started by FDR’s New Deal are finally having an impact on the hearts and minds of even our most backward citizens.
Well said, GodHatesTrash. Couldn’t agree with you more.
By Hey Soose
November 9, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
GodHatesTrash, I apologize. I’m not hating on you, in fact I agree with you in most of what you are saying. Where I disagree with you is calling others stupid, uneducated, etc. just because they don’t agree with everything you have to say.
By Tall
November 9, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
I’m a Republican and I’m finally seeing the light. Like that woman said “..free gasoline in my tank, I don’t have to worry about my mortgage…”. Wake and up and drink in the wisdom of Mrs. Godzilla, GodHatesTrash and Spankmonkey. Other nations around the world are going to like the U.S. for a change. Even Iran, Venezuela, and North Korea. Those Russians are really our friends..they’re just misunderstood.
Obama is going to eliminate the corruption that is destroying our economy. These inspired Democrats are going to set new standards for fiscal responsibility. Say goodbye to earmarks. Say goodbye to well heeled lobbyists. Say hello to capaign contribution disclosures. If I need an abortion, I will soon have all nine months to think it over. The fairness doctrine will muzzle those hateful, conservative meanies on talk radio once and for all.
It’s a great day in America. Now…if a an African American CONSERVATIVE could be elected to the White House….
By getalife
November 9, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
The world has been waiting for us to do the right thing and will help our new President.
“6,000 Muslim Clerics Endorse Anti-Terrorism Fatwa”.
Moderate Islam for peace.
Here, our President is moving quickly for change in our country:
“Obama Ready To Quickly Reverse Bush Executive Orders… Transition Advisers Compile List Of 200 Bush Actions To Overturn… Climate Change, Stem Cell Research, Reproductive Rights Among Targets For Change… Particularly Looking To Undo Bush Regulations Imposed For “Overtly Political” Reasons…”
Elections have consequences and change for the better.
By ron
November 9, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Ray—- What Kind of boats do you build?I once spent an entire day with Dynamite Payson.That was a day to remember.
By drew
November 9, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Corporal, You can cease with the scare tactics now. The election is over. We won. Pull your head out your a$$ and come on over to the bright side. The sun is shining again.
Oh, and Corporal, is there some rhyme or reason to your use of bold formatting? I suspect there is some secret code involved, but for the life of me, I can’t figure it out.
By Ray
November 9, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Trash,
A number of your “demographic” 18-31 yr old voters can’t find Iraq on a map. A good percentage don’t know who our vice-president is and couldn’t name the type of government we have. They are taught revisionist history by a lot of uninformed NEA holdovers who couldn’t hold onto their jobs without tenure and a union that protects incompetency.
Informed voters….. yeah, like the ones in Harlem on that you tube tape. About the only thing that a lot of them are informed about are their iPods & what kind of Starbucks latte to order. Most have not served in the military and have distain for those that do. The future of our country……. globalized Americans intent on maintaining our image with people who are trying to kill us and selling out the heritage of this country for some kind of “foreign approval rating”. And you and Bookman believe this crap.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Interesting conjecture TN.
Certainly Clinton would have won a third term. Would he have been able to thwart the crime of 11 September?
Maybe not. Osama bin Laden is a brilliant criminal master-mind. And very patient. The election of W made his job easier, but the plan Al Qaeda used on 11 September worked because it was breathtakingly simple.
But even if Clinton hadn’t, he wouldn’t have treated it as an act of war, but as the crime it was. So bin Laden would have been caught and dealt with, and the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis would have been avoided.
With the downturn of the economy in 2001, it’s probable that a fourth term in 2004 would not have happened, although never misunderestimate William Jefferson Clinton in an election. But certainly by 2004 the crescendo from the confederacy of dunces and dumbarses from Faux and hate radio would have been even more deafening, and the GOP would have likely won in 2004.
So the dark cloud of the Dumbya Presidency has a silver lining. The election of Obama on 4 November 2008.
A big multi-colored rainbow, in fact.
By Hey Soose
November 9, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
getalife, I hope you’re right, but do you really think he’s going to transend politics, and make NO executive orders that are in no way “overtly political” in nature? Every president does, including Bush Jr., Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, etc. and will continue to do so.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Ray, you could be right about that.
Of course, the Republican candidate for VP didn’t know that Africa was a continent, not a country..
By Ray
November 9, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Ron,
Racing sculls, strip kayaks, wood and canvas canoes and strip canoes. Payson has done a lot for amateur boatbuilding in this country. Brought the home builder to a new level.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
68, thank you, but no need to be so formal.
The dullards on this blog call me Trash, which I don’t appreciate, but I consider the source…
GHT is fine. My good friend Midori call me Sir Trash, which I really like.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 9, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
This has gone from merely bizarre to truly frightening-
*ATLANTA CELEBRATES - Fired up and ready to go: Some call it the shout heard ‘round the world. As newscasters announced Obama’s victory, supporters rejoiced throughout Atlanta. As the old Sam Cooke song says, it had been a long time coming, but change had finally come-Urinal/Peoples Temple.
Not only is there a two section pull out “commemorative” edition, there are also full sized pictures of Dear Leader scattered throughout the entire Urinal.
People, North Korea hasn’t gone this far over the side and they are required by dictate to worship their leader on a scale lesser than this.
I think it’s great.
What a huge letdown is in store for the mind numbed dullard kult members, dimwits all, for Oblahma’s first accomplishment in the White House will be his first accomplishment period, unless we count failures.
I guess I shouldn’t be so harsh, after all this penny ante America hating socialist is giving meaning to the lives of a bunch of people that have none.
Heil Hitler!
Yes we can!
Drink the koolaid!
By ron
November 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Ray——-When I talked to Dynamite he was getting on in age.At that time he was building model dories in his home shop.He said he got as much for them as he did the full size boats.
I was taking a trip to Phippsburg, Maine,to see the gnarr that was being built there.The one they eventually sailed to Iceland.I never got beyond Payson’s shop.Fascinating individual.We had breakfast and lunch and dinner together.We even constructed a Payson joint.He had one there all made that easily supported my truck.
Years back I built a 21 foot Texas Dory out of plywood,screws,glue and epoxy.I outfitted it with a gaff rig and a barn door rudder and literally sailed it to death.It had a well with a 4.5 hp Mercury in it and with the centerboard down it was a very stable boat in rough sea.
I currently own a canoe which I made a trip to Old Town Canoe Co. to purchase.It’s constructed of Royalex and is indestructable.
If I had a strip canoe I’d put it on a pedestal and just admire it.I couldn’t stand to put a scratch on it.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
The election of Obama - even more for the already scared spitless - and witless - to be scared of!
Boo!
By Hey Soose
November 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Pretty sad when some here are hoping for him to fail before he even begins his term. The same hatred, bias, and lack of support happened with Bush, and look where we are now. Give Obama a chance to the job we’ve elected him to do.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
GOP has low standards?
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
So, Bookman, some food for thought.
I think a column or three on the Martin-Chickenhawk Chambliss race might be good for you, if you want to develop more than a regional following.
I think it would be enlightening to many to see how this “race” is perceived by the locals, if you get my drift…
By getalife
November 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Hey Soose,
If he wants to fire all gop in government to fix our broken government, I say go for it.
Let us not stab the Obamas in the back like the Clintons.
Let us support our new President because he will need it.
We got his back.
By AmVet
November 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Forty years ago the American electorate chose the beginning of a series of terrible Republican presidents. Only Ford proved himself to be more than an imperious bungler.
And what can one say about posts that are so pathetically desperate that they rely upon “Hitlerian” hyperbolic rhetoric (in lieu of even the smallest attempt at rational analysis) and that pass for the new “understandings” by the very, very far right?
But, to “Joe Biden” Mr. Gore, the debate is over. The fat lady has sung.
And the humiliating demise of BushCo is their swan song.
So, inevitably, those who refuse to stop living in their romanticized 1950’s past (If not the thirteenth century), and who continue to fight their non-righteous crusades of religious bigotry and misguided McCarthyist witch hunts, are irrefutably going to get left further and further and further behind.
Because the “center-right” (LOL!) gang completely missed it the first time around, a reprise is in order.
In your best Dylan nasally twang:
Come gather ‘round people wherever you roam
And admit that the waters around you have grown
And accept it that soon you’ll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’ or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come writers and critics who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide the chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon for the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who that it’s namin’.
For the loser now will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come senators, congressmen please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside and it is ragin’.
It’ll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come mothers and fathers throughout the land
And don’t criticize what you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin’.
Please get out of the new one if you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’.
The line it is drawn the curse it is cast
The slow one now will later be fast
As the present now will later be past
The order is rapidly fadin’.
And the first one now will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Ray
November 9, 2008 10:22 AM
My first exposure was in the 7th grade when we walked up to the high school for a concert.
Rhapsody in Blue gave me goose bumps.
I recently reunited with a classmate, but they didn’t remember it.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 9, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
And the president-elect has one additional key quality: He is not George W. Bush. Because the Bush years have been disastrous for other parts of the world in many ways, Obama’s victory dramatizes the self-correcting mechanism that epitomizes American democracy.”
Drink the koolaid and lie down, dimwits, “change” is coming, yes indeed-
President Bush’s legacy is a much softer and less-noticed effort by his administration in foreign affairs: a dramatic increase in U.S. aid to Africa.
The president has tripled direct humanitarian and development aid to the world’s most impoverished continent since taking office and recently vowed to double that increased amount by 2010 — to nearly $9 billion.-Wapo
WASHINGTON, May 30, 2007 — President Bush called Wednesday for Congress to spend $30 billion to fight global AIDS over the next five years, a near doubling of financing-NY Times
“Well, I think the message is right on target, and the president deserves a great deal of credit there,” Bono said. “We’d like more money.
Trolling for some more aid money, are we Desmond?
How about you try self reliance for a change, instead of just being a parasite?
Yeah, right.
How long will it be before parasite America needs aid money from Africa?
It’s too easy too leech, whine and moan and hold your hand out, just like any good democrat.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Tall
November 9, 2008 10:27 AM
Wonder if McCain considered J.C. Watts as a running mate?
By A bit sensitive
November 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Is the monitor this morning a Bush disciple? Seems a bit too willing to stifle dissent, when it comes to criticism of the AJC; ironically for this blog, not unlike the current White House occupants.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 10:38 AM
I thought I was the only one “shallow” enough to still say the response to 09/11 was ill-conceived.
It’s hard to imagine Osama is still free. Maybe Bush can get him “dead or alive” before he leaves office.
I’m concerned that might awaken the sleeper cells, tho.
By TN Gelding
November 9, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management
November 9, 2008 10:58 AM
Mission Accomplished!
By Ray
November 9, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
Ron,
Some of the best boats in our early years are plywood stitch and glue boats with a gaff rigged sail. Used to have one myself. Learning to sail with qaff rigged boat spoils you for anything else. Go to www.stevensonprojects.com and look at the gaff rigged Super Skip Jack. Scaled down model of the old Chesapeake Bay oyster boats. My next boat.
By AmVet
November 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
The US air strike into Syria a week ago did not get much press at all in this country (???); but like it or not, as long as the Bush Doctrine is here, it is one of the few statements that the president made originally that I agree with.
If you harbor those that are doing their damnedest to kill innocent Americans and you won’t deal with them, we will.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5062848.ece
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031568.html
By @@
November 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Tutu’s kidding right, jay?
No president before him has done more for Africa than George W. Bush.
And like Hillary, herself said……..Barack Obama has a speech he made in 2004.
Whoopee!
jay is complicit in letting good deeds go unnoticed.
By AF
November 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
AmVet
Thank you for the Dylan.
I think I will just go away for a while and hum some memories.
By Dusty
November 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
This is getting rediculous. George W. Bush is not running for reelection and you boneheads sit here, safe and sound, running your mouths.
Celebrate Obama’s coming term. Fine. But there is no need to be ingrates about George W. Bush who has done more for Africa, the Middle East and the safety of this country than any other living person today.
So you are thrilled that Obama might drastically change things. I suggest you wait until you are hit by the changes before you crow like a barnyard rooster. He will have the intel as Bush did and you don’t have. You won’t “understand” some changes. He will deal with dictators as Bush did but Obama won’t get rid of a single one. Bush did.
Obama may make more giveaways to alleviate our economic downturn. Congress will give away everything but the kitchen sink to any group that asks, if they are liberal and most “asking” groups are liberal.
I am not making scary fiction but going by Obama’s promises. Besides us, he is going to be Santa Claus to the world and they are counting on it. Taxpayers are going to pay for the gifts sooner or later. When the gift season is over and taxpayers finally realize what is going on, whom are you going to blame? George W. Bush? Probably. But George W. Bush was not out to please the world, he was here to protect America. And he did, even for all the ingrates. Your memory is short. Obama will soon discover that fact and the glory will turn sour.
Hang on to the glory, Obama. With close friends like the ones you have, you are going to need the remembrance.
By "The Corporal"
November 9, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
To Drew
As a conservative I worked hard to help prevent Obama from being elected due to his ultra liberal views but now that he will be our President my prayer is:
1) For his personal protection.
2) That he will make wise economic and fiscal decisions for all Americans.
3) That God will soften and change his heart regarding our unborn children.
4) That he will become extemely astute in foreign policy matters.
However, my biggest fear is that he really doesn’t understand international evil.
We will find out soon enough.
P.S. I wonder how many of my liberal friends out there prayed for President Bush? It’s a tough job no matter who sits in that office.
By AmVet
November 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
…and most “asking” groups are liberal.
Does that mean the banking, insurance, real estate and auto industry executives/Boards of Directors are liberal?
Or are they just “center-right” socialists and the benefactors of income redistributionists?
By Soixante huitard
November 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
GHT is fine. My good friend Midori call me Sir Trash, which I really like.
So I’m free to make up my own?
I could just call you something that condenses it, like GodStash or God-Trash, but I fear that might offend Corporal so much that he would never speak to me again, and we of course don’t want that. But I’m OK with Trash if you are. After all, I’m the original Euro Trash.
By GodHatesTrash
November 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
68, only les imbeciles call me just “Trash”.
GHT, Sir Trash, Lord Trash, Mr. Trash, or just plain God are fine by me. Perhaps not God, though, as you might incur the ostracism of le petit corporal.
But call me pretty much anything else except just “Trash”. Only the dregs and buffoons call me that.
This American trusts your fine French intellect to come up with something tasteful and respectful.
By Ray
November 9, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Trash,
If you weren’t so full of yourself, we wouldn’t really care what we called you. But I think I’ll stick with Trash. Has a nice round tone befitting the owner of the name and describes your tantrums pretty well.
By No Propaganda
November 9, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this
I sure am glad that everyone is only allowed to vote once. You people sure are angry.
By dw
November 9, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this
Bookman,
It is so comforting to know that the U.S. is now a satellite country of Kenya.
I rejoice with the rest of the Muslim world that showed their joy at Barry’s election.
Do you even question why some of these places are so thrilled at this outcome? And don’t just give me the Bush b.s. These places hated America long before Bush. These places hated America no matter if Dem or Rep was in office. I’m thinking that they are thinking Barry is going to cave to their wants.
By Copyleft
November 10, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
If you hadn’t heard, DW, the infantile “Us against the world” attitude has been voted out of office, along with all the other insane neoconservative policies.
The rest of the world is not our enemy. They do not “want us weak and failing.” They DO, however, want us to stop being shortsighted, violent bullies and start behaving like a responsible, adult superpower again.
Thanks to President Obama and the magic of complete sentences, we now have that opportunity again. And the world is breathing a sigh of relief.