Jay Bookman

By getalife

November 7, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Same guy we saw in the campaign.

Check out the brain on President Obama.

Yep, that is change from w.

You betcha. Wink, wink.

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Okay, Jay changed threads on me, so I’ll repost what I just posted downstairs - it’s relevant to this topic too:

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Does anybody have any thoughts on whether or not to re-adjust mortgages to reflect the diminished values?

Does anyone think this is good? Bad?

Just curious.

I think traditional “stimulus packages” where you send everybody a check is worthless.

But if you could readjust your mortgage to reflect it’s current value would be good for homeowners and force those who created this mess (banks/mortgag companies) bear some of the responsibility. They are getting taxpayer money to cover some of their losses.

I know that would have consequences, everything does, but I would like to know others opinions who know more about this kind of thing than I.

By G

November 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

I forgot what a truly Presidential press conference looked like.

Wonderful! It’s so nice to have intelligence behind the podium again.

By TW

November 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

YES! WE HAVE A REAL PRESIDENT AGAIN!

By pj

November 7, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

I can hardly wait to hear the Marine Corps Band strike up “Hail To The Chief”. I get chills thinking about it.

In terms of the press conference I hope the auto industry gets the help it needs. As he stated they are the back bone of industry. More than their employees depend on them because businesses that work around them make up a big part of the economic food chain. If they are saved and pay back the LOANS than we may see the rest of of us recover.

A very even toned and measured press conference it was. His intelligence amazes and reassures me.

By getalife

November 7, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Sounds good Bosch.

I think bailing them out should come with accountability to those failed mortgages.

Mortgage adjustments and forcing banks to invest and make loans in green energy to create jobs.

Bail out auto and force them to make green energy cars and create jobs.

States too on green energy to produce jobs.

Use the bailout, to force them to start a new green job bubble. Leverage.

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I like those ideas too. I was talking to a friend of mine the other day who was looking to buy a Prius - six month wait.

By RealityKing

November 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Dreams without execution are hallucinations…

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

I wrote this earlier, but this made me mad - I heard a news story the other day where companies who are receiving bailout money are paying dividends to their investors - money they didn’t earn, but are yet paying their investors.

Um, that ain’t right.

By Laugh Now in '08, Cry later in '12 (Mad As Zell)

November 7, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Go ahead and have your fun insulting President George W. Bush while history gives him the last laugh. George W. Bush will go down as one of the best Presidents in history because of his committment to spreading freedom and democracy around the globe to places like Afghanistan and Iraq and promoting the continued Westernization of other places like the Eastern European Soviet Bloc Countries (like Ukraine, etc.). President Bush-43 will also be recognized as one of the great ones because of his firm committment to defeating Islamofacism and winning the War on Terror! On the other hand, just how much of a commitment can the Democrat left have to defeating Islamofacists when they just elected one, frauduently, as shadow figurehead President? The American People all know whose really pulling the strings and calling the shots behind the leftist puppet Obama: George Soros, Oprblah Winfrey, Ellen DeGenerate and the pro-gay lobby, moveon.org, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the NAACP, the Black Panthers, Osama Bin Laden and the anti-Israel/anti-Jew/Islamofacist terror movement and last, but not least, William Ayres and the Weather Underground just to name a few!

Yeah, now that’s a real commitment to defeating Islamofacism and keeping this country safe…..

By RB from Gwinnett

November 7, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

getalife, you can install solar panels on your home TODAY and get yourself off the electric grid completely. Until you’re willing to put up YOUR money for what YOU feel everybody must do, please spare us the theatrics. Talk’s cheap.

BTW, I looked into it 4 years ago. It would cost $80K for my house and would take 33 years to pay it back. I just don’t seem to have a spare $80K to drop on that lying around anywhere.

I’m sure you’ll give a few people some work to do when you order your system, so don’t delay. Start putting your money where your mouth is today. You don’t need Obama to do anything for you to make it happen. Let us all know how it’s going, too. We’ll look forward to your updates.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 7, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Yes a calm cool creature straight out of the fever swamps:

“I have spoken to all of them who are living,” he says. “I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Regan thing about doing any seances,” he says.

Damn, he’s down with all the hysteria.

By difh

November 7, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

latest news - billy graham no longer mentoring presidents - says what could he possibly say to the messiah

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

pj,

Lee Iacoca paid back his loan from the feds several years before it was due. It can be done if entrusted to good people.

By Greg

November 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Great press conference. Especially enjoyed the pointless shot at the Reagans. Can’t wait for 4 years of this.

By MorningStar

November 7, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

By Bosch November 7, 2008 3:05 PM Does anybody have any thoughts on whether or not to re-adjust mortgages to reflect the diminished values? Does anyone think this is good? Bad?

Bosch, I do not have a mortgage; however, know some who will be struggling to pay their taxes next year, because the acreage or house is appraised for much more than the house or acreage would bring at the present market value!!!

And noooooo, they have not borrowed against the equity etc. etc. The problem is simply tax increase, property devaluation due to the recession; can’t sell property due to the housing market….Taxes are STILL due based on couple years ago’s appraisal of property, which is a laugh based on present market value.

By bh

November 7, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Wow, it is just me or is Mad as Zell getting scarier as time goes by? Seriously warped perceptions!

By Joey

November 7, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Yes indeed.

A very different “Presidential Press Conference.” A friendly even congratulatory press. Not one unfriendly attitude, no confrontational follow ups. Every one there on the same team.

Do I recall correctly? Oh yes. That was one of my complaints during the campaign. The press and the Democrat candidate were openly playing for the same team.

Hey let’s sit back and wait. Give the new guy a chance. We expected this with the mendia.

Time passes decision must be made. The press can hide results or lack of results for only so long.

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Morningstar,

The reason that made me start thinking about all this is that I recently re-financed my house - I forget exactly, but it must have been a little over a year ago, and I remember the appraiser telling me that he could appraise it higher if I wanted him too so I could borrow more money. Seriously, he did. I was like, um, no that’s okay. To be honest, I really didn’t think about the implications of that at the time.

By bh

November 7, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Does anybody have any thoughts on whether or not to re-adjust mortgages to reflect the diminished values?

It sounds like an idea with alot of merit. It would release a number of pressure points in the economy, —increase the affordability of mortgages,which in turn would add to homeowners buying and investing power. Plus would spread the pain between homeowners and lending institutions.

Question is -does it apply to everyone or just those in trouble?

By BDAtlanta

November 7, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

This is off topic but… IF GM and the other automakers want a bailout, this might be a prime time to set some alternative fuel goals, set time lines, demand they meet the goals or pay back the money with interest.

By pj

November 7, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

RealityKing: Tell that to Joe the Plumber. Our new President has a lot more to work with.

Laugh Now: The only thing Bush will be remembered for is the smooth transition to our new President. That’s why it’s his new top priority.

RB from Gwinnette: If it were that easy we wouldn’t be in the crisis we now find ourselves in. Even rich people are dumping their private planes and extra autos.

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

bh,

I think it would need to apply to everyone, because it’s the foreclosed homes in neighborhoods that are forcing prices to go down, or one of the reasons anyway.

My fear is that since I just re-financed a little over a year ago, I haven’t checked or had my house appraised since then, I’m curious if I’m one of those whose house is worth less than what I owe.

By blahblahblah

November 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

I thought we were going to work together. HAHA. Several posters are still taking shots at Bush even though these same people want everyone to support Obama. Lay off of Bush it’s getting old. I watched Obama’s speech, not bad but he didn’t have to take a shot at Nancy Reagan…that’s working together?? Those kind of shots will get everyone behind him, yeah right. It’s going to be a long 4 years and will probably seem longer than the last 8 ever did.

By h ryder

November 7, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Get serious!!!! The individual, who for whatever reason, placed themselves in such economic straits should have to experience what others in the past have had to deal with and stop moaning and begging. One should be responsible! I know from experience that I learned the most and have not made the same mistake twice when forced to experience discomfort from errors I have committed. However, far too many people expect Primrose Lane throughout life and if you do not have the requisite skills and abilities for the pain free life then everything should be provided for you at someone elses expense. WHAT A CROCK!!!!

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

He had all the answers during the campaign. I’m anxious to see him get started and fix the economy, bring eternal peace to the Middle East, bring the troops home from Iraq in 16 months and win the War in Afghanistan by killing every Taliban (without hurting any civilians) and capturing Bin Laden. Yep, I can’t wait. I wish the Inauguration was tomorrow. Seriously! No more blaming George - let Barry have the helm.

By Laugh now, cry later (Mad As Zell)

November 7, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Mad, learn some manners or go away.

— Jay

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

To Soxiante and P.J.

You’re not staying up with me. Go back to the end of the “What is the future of the GOP” blog?

By MorningStar

November 7, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

By Bosch November 7, 2008 4:04 P

Bosch, on one hand I saw it coming, but hoped I was wrong. I shoulda known ‘at my age’ and what I’ve seen….. but that’s another story. It’s a Merciful Creator who permits us to remember the good……

At any rate I was not surprised. I am so worried and afraid for many in our country. They (most) are hard working people, but must have some relief where mortgages and loans are concerned.

Off to ‘dine out.’ Lucky me, and I’m so grateful.

By bh

November 7, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Bosche: Agreed

Your home value is probably like a lot of our retirement accounts right now - too scary to look at! But you were smart not to get sucked into the appraiser’s scheme.

By AGTFan

November 7, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Laugh Now in ‘08, Cry later in ‘12 (Mad As Zell) Can you let us know where to get what you’ve been smoking. The DEA would like to know.

By THE BANDIT

November 7, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Lowering everyones property values will only result in a millage rate increase that will result in their tax bill being the same. When a governing body has a certain amount of money to raise they apply a mill rate to the total value of all taxable property to get that amount of money. If you lower the tax base by 50%, you will see a millage increase of 100%. They still have to raise the same amount of money to operate. Therefore your bill is the same as it was.

By leni

November 7, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Remembering JFK Friday news conferences—-guess there are all kinds of Harvards now.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 7, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

pj, it is that simple. You pick up the phone, call the company that installs solar systems, and you pay for it. Even getalife can do that (I think??). It’s almost as easy as ordering a pizza.

If getalife and all the rest of you “government has to do something to force this green thing or that green thing” actually had to pay for or do anything, you’d blow a gasket. If you really think all this green stuff is where we need to be, stop telling other people they need to do this or that and YOU do it. It’s available today. Lead by example.

By JohnD

November 7, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

How would this mortgage re-adjustment work? Are you referring to some national refinance of interest rates or actually suggesting the balance of your loan be reduced?

By Tom

November 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

And NOW is the time to begin to make plans for the imprisonment of Bushdrunk and his cohorts. Leiberman can scout the way.

By Mad As Zell

November 7, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Jay, I didn’t know that the hard left could be so sensitive when the truth is exposed. Must have hit kinda close to home, eh? I know, I know, the truth hurts. I guess what good for the goose isn’t good for the gander after all, huh? I’ll make you a deal, Jay. If you and other prominent liberals promise to stop hurling and launching vicious uncalled-for attacks at the GOP, then I and others won’t the spend the next four years making your life and the life of the messiah the living hell that those on the left have made the life of our President for the last eight! Is it a deal, Jay? Because the left has made life excruciating miserable for George W. Bush and the GOP from almost the moment he took office! If it’s a deal, I promise that I’ll stop telling so much hard truth and I’ll try to lie to you more often about what America sees when it looks left. Truce, Jay?

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

Reality Kill: Dreams without execution are hallucinations…

Yeah, ask Tony Soprano. Or Louis XIV for that matter.

Ok, Corporal! Gimme a minute. I’ll go back to the previous discussion and be back to you in due time! …

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

To P.J. and Roxiante

Go to end of previous blog entitled: “What is the Future of the GOP”?

By RB from Gwinnett

November 7, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Tom, if you have some evidence of criminal wrongdoing by Bush, please provide it and then go right ahead and prosecute him. If you don’t, take your divisive rhetoric and go away.

By pj

November 7, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

To Corporal: Sorry but occasionally I have to get back to what I’m being paid to do.

As for who got here first and who did not you make my point. Everyone came here as an immigrant. If you believe in God and the Bible than this entire planet belonged to one couple. We need laws and borders to protect ourselves but this country is a melting pot and all who come legally are welcomed. We need to be careful because depending on your nation of origin or even religion and who beat who here many immigrants were unwelcome to these shores. The Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Germans, the Polish to name a few have all been told to go back where they came from and the people descendant from Slaves have, until recently, been told to go back to Africa almost daily (and they had no choice in the matter even if they were lucky enough to know what country they were stolen from). If history teaches nothing else it say that one generation here is enough to tell the new to go home.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Reality Kill: Dreams without execution are hallucinations…

Yeah, ask Tony Soprano. Or Louis XVI for that matter.

Ok, Corporal! Gimme a minute. I’ll go back to the previous discussion and be back to you in due time! …

By Soothsayer

November 7, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Obama in his first press conference avoided questions from Fox News. One can only deduce from that that he is going to pander to the media outlets (99% of them) that supported him during the campaign. The question must be raised; if he can’t take critical questions from the press (not that most of them don’t support him anyway) then how are the American people supposed to know what he is really doing? How much different will we be from Nazi Germany and the former Soviet Union if he and his adoring media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC and the New York Times continue to work in collusion? These outlets have become propagandists for him. All of the “intellectuals” in the media that supported him are supposed to support freedom of the press. Exactly how free has this press (including Bookman and the AJC) been in this election? They under-reported the negatives about Obama and overstated the positives. Be afraid American. Be very afraid. This president has no constraints. He has the Congress and he has the press just like Hitler and Stalin. If he does well, I will be elated. If he does badly, then how are we supposed to know other than we have all become goverment dependent drones who take our daily porridge and question nothing.

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Soixante huitard

You need to stay up. You’re costing me too much work.

By GOP is gone

November 7, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Laugh now, That is exactly what I am doing. What a little sicko you must be.

By @@

November 7, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Another stimulus package?????

He uses one of those little “spot” bandages?

So much for his gauze…..errrrr I mean cause.

Alrighty then Dr. PrezE — take the scalpel and SAVE THIS PATIENT.

Leave your gawd complex at the emergency room door. The bright light blinds.

By cws

November 7, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

TO laugh now; what an idiot!!! the USA can not spread our values in all parts of the world. History will indeed remember bush43 but for being the absolute worst commander we have ever had. The world already sees this.

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

To P.J.

And you make my point with your own words ….. laws and borders.

If you have never watched this, it is a MUST see. If you are interested in statistical truth, please do and then get back to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Corporal: You need to stay up. You’re costing me too much work.

You see it’s really tough though. I do occasionally have to leave the house, which means I have to disconnect myself from this machine, hook myself up to my prosthetic body, and go.

It’s not a maneouver I enjoy much, but I do have to at least pretend to have a life from time to time. Meaning errands.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Corporal: You need to stay up. You’re costing me too much work.

You see it’s really tough though. I do occasionally have to leave the house, which means I have to disconnect myself from this machine, hook myself up to my prosthetic body, and go.

It’s not a maneouver I enjoy much, but I do have to at least pretend to have a life from time to time. Meaning do errands.

By GOP is gone

November 7, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

BRIAN NICHOLS GUILTY!!! Yeah!! What took so long? I am a Moderate Dem and believe in the Death Penalty and hope he gets it.

By Laugh now ('08), cry later ('12)

November 7, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Soothsayer: MSNBC and the New York Times are media outlets? Wow! That is NEWS to me! I didn’t know that the (N)ational (B)arack (C)hannel and the New Yuck Times actually qualified as such! Do you mean real news or play news like Daily Show and Colbert?

By pj

November 7, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett: Maybe if I cry and weep about my predicament to Rush on the radio maybe he’ll buy one for me like he brought that lady the SUV but in the mean time I’ll purchase what I need as I can afford it. Besides solar panels are not the only way to save energy. I usually put on a sweater when I’m cold.

By Chris Matthews

November 7, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

WOW! That press conference really sent a THRILL UP MY LEG because MY JOB AS A JOURNALIST IS TO MAKE THIS PRESIDENCY WORK!

By getalife

November 7, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Well, his daddy left a recession but w leaves an economy so bad, they have to resort to socialism or it collapses.

The door to socialism is open and they are lining up. President Obama can use this as leverage to get the change he wants but it is still w’s disaster.

At some point, the door must close and some should fall. Taxes for the rich will rise like Clinton’s terms. It’s time for sacrifice, so lets start with the folks that can afford it.

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

To Soixante

Sorry, I’m retired ……… :o)

By TN Gelding

November 7, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

I was less than overwhelmed by the news conference.

I didn’t see that confidence, but he was in a delicate position. I wish he had taken time to introduce all the advisors and let each make a brief statement. I would have liked to have seen a treasury secretary named and made available to the Bush administration if it requested. These aren’t normal times.

Maybe Bush should just head on home and officially turn the reins over to Cheney?

By @@

November 7, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Dang! I just saw the new PrezE wink on T.V.

HOW OUTRAGEOUSLY STOOPID HE LOOKED!!!! WHAT A MORON!!!! I HOPE ALL 57 or was it 58? STATES DIDN’T WITNESS THAT SHAMEFUL DISPLAY.

UGH!

THPPBBBTTT!

EWWWWWWWW!

IGNORANT BACKWOODS BUMPKIN!!!!!

By AJC/DNC Management

November 7, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

I missed this earlier-

“I have spoken to all of them who are living,” he says. “I didn’t want to get into a Nancy Regan thing about doing any seances,” he says.

Not only did we lower the dignity of the Office of the United States Presidency in our very first press conference, the dullard Oblahma loving reporter can’t even spell the name of a former President correctly.

Can you say vile immaturity?

Third world dude.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Was it this, Corporal? I certainly hope you did not quote that passage from Galations 3 in a political sense or you will have to go back to Sunday School.

Ah, yes. I thought that one might get your attention. :-)

And you’ve got me read perfectly. That is, everything hangs on whether that is given a political meaning or not. (Here are the lines again: In him there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, or free person. Instead, the Messiah is all and in all.)

I’m not nessarily going to take a stand here one way or another, EXCEPT to say that this passage contains what are ARGUABLY the most explosive lines of political theory ever written.

(That is, for those who like arguing, not that that would be me or anything.) :-)

By lets see yhe video

November 7, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Jay, your a newspaper man. , so tell us why the LA Times will not release the Obama video , esp. since the elaction is oyer?

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

C’mon lets see (so tell us why the LA Times will not release the Obama video , esp. since the elaction is over.), do we have to go over this again?

The reason it’s not going to be released now is the same reason that it could not be before the election.

And that’s because it’s not being released before the election HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ELECTION!

By larry

November 7, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

if the auto companies get this bailout,they should be have to repay with penalties for every job shipped overseas

By GPMAN

November 7, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Hey Lefties, Tax the rich, feed the poor, till there are no rich no more. OH WAIT! then what do we do

I can’t believe so many people think some magic program or the Lord Obama can just lower everyone (Who needs it) morgage to a more comfortable level with no after effects.

Do you people really believe the top five percent have enough money to support the other ninety percent? This is really going to be great to watch.

By TN Gelding

November 7, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

How could the Corporal desert his country in such a time of need?

By AJC/DNC Management

November 7, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

“Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters to Realize How Empty Their Lives Are”—headline, Onion Web site, Nov. 5, 2008

Parody?

By Child's Play

November 7, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

@@ likes Obama. @@ likes Obama.

@@ and Obama sittin’ in a tree, K - i - s - s - i - n - g.

By AmVet

November 7, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

I agree, there is no reason for the president-elect to take a snide shot at Nancy.

Now, Betty Ford, that’s a different story.

Just kidding…

…but on the other hand our preference is to get a shelter dog, but obviously, a lot of the shelter dogs are mutts like me” Obama said.

You gotta love that! The guy can at least laugh at himself.

By TN Gelding

November 7, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

getalife

November 7, 2008 5:14 PM

At least 80% of us can afford to pay a little more in taxes.

We should be able to match what the top 1% will be called on to pay.

By GPMAN

November 7, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

How are 80% of us going to match the top 1% when the top 1% lays you off.

By Soothsaer

November 7, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Laugh Now, I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt (not that they deserve it). I just find it ironic that people such as Bookman and others in the “news” business sit around and talk about such things as personal freedom and freedom of the press at their cocktail parties and in reality they are doing everything they can to destroy those ideals. Whether it is intentional or not, who can tell. The press (most of them) are as easily led as sheep are to slaughter. Journalism must be going the way of every other major college degree in this country. It’s not what you know or believe, it is how much you can pay for a diploma. Bookman, the AJC and the rest of the “news outlets” are useless. They will not tell the truth. That places the average American in real danger. Americans should view everything they see and hear from papers and television with real skepticism. Bookmeat doesn’t matter as he is a little biased man in a little failing paper.

By Bosch

November 7, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

JohnD,

Not suggesting anything, just wondering what people’s opinions were about something like that. On the other thread, Swami Dave and someone else gave some good insights.

I think some kind of mortgage adjustments would be a good idea - either by the interest rate or principle would be better for homeowners and lenders rather than simply sending a check.

Off to hang out with my family. Have a pleasant evening all.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Management, you’re a day late and a $ short. It was actually Obama supporters are a band of “insufferable and mindless pawns” and it was a video. (And quite funny, btw, good for a real chuckle.)

Just stick to the snarky jibes based on your Limbaugh political talking points, OK, big boy.

Just KIDDING! Don’t get your knickers in such a twist!

:-)

By AJC/DNC Management

November 7, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Look at the dimocrats spew financial nonsense:

By Ima Stock Dummy November 7, 2008 5:23 PM Several here have posted about how dumb most “investors” are in times like these. They panic and sell, then buy back higher later, and wonder why they can’t make money.

When I was sure that Oblahma had a chance to win the presidency, I sold every damn thing I had.

Since then, the market has lost roughly 30% of it’s value but yet I still have my money.

Now it is a matter of waiting for the Oblahma depression to break, which I’m guessing will be about 4 and half years from now, 3 months into Sarah Palin’s first term as president.

Then I buy cheap.

You libs think I’m joking, but I’m not. During the next four years, America could hit rock bottom, after all, we are well on our way, and even be eclipsed as the world’s economic super power by some basket case like China.

When that happens, the American people will not even remember who Bush was. But yet, they will still be angry.

It’s gonna really suck for you liberals.

By Laugh now, cry later

November 7, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Sorry, getalife, but, per Jay, I respectfully disagree with you. Raising taxes is just not the most effective way to increase government revenues. If more money is needed, or wanted, to run the government, why not consider what some other nations, like Ireland, have done and lower the corporate tax rates down to 15% or lower and phasing out income taxes. Lowering the corporate tax rate and eliminating the income gets to the same point that Pres-elect Obama was getting at, making rich people pay their fair share, but does so through freeing up personal wealth for investment here at home (domestically), and not abroad (offshoring and outsourcing). Increasing taxes on your biggest investors only serves to act as a form of perceived extortion to those wealthy investors and encourages them to hide their money away from the government by putting most of their money in foreign bank accounts and offshore investments i.e. overseas jobs and factories where they’ll pay a much smaller amount in taxes. “Rich” people will never pay their “fair share” of increased taxes because being “rich” gives them the means and the resources to hide it away from a government trying to extort it away from them in the form of higher taxes. Why not lower ALL taxes from 35% down to 15% and encourage the “rich” to invest the difference in America? Not only will we see increased investment from American Citizens, but also from international investors, i.e. foreign individuals who will bring more money than we can count (tens-of-trillions more) and lots of HIGH-PAYING JOBS of all sorts from manufacturing to telecom to tech to life sciences back to our shores in droves. Heck, even that bastion of East Coast liberalism, Massachusetts, is phasing out income taxes over the next few years because they have figured out that governments actually bring in more tax money when citizens are able to keep more of their money to spend and invest! You can more flies with honey than you can vinegar, of course, manure is basically honey, to flies, so go figure! Here’s a little secret: if Obama and the lefties ever figure this out, he’ll be one of the most popular presidents, ever.

By MA

November 7, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Obama’s remark about not conferring with a fortune teller like Nancy Regan did was oh so very presidential. All Americans can be proud.

By @@

November 7, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Getalife! Step up to the plate, I wanna ask you some questions. I like your answers cause they’re short and sweet. (ISH)

By GPMAN

November 7, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

I think the personal attacks on Mr. Bookman are juvenile. I read his column and seldom aggree with him, but he’s consitent and I would hope, open to new and better ideas.

This whole deal is simple. If the economy really works better when you redistibute the wealth and the system works as he says, “from the bottom up”, then in four years he will have fixed everything and will truly be popular.

If, on the other hand, he kills the economy and loses more jobs, then Bookman and the rest of the press will only be able to defend him for a short time before they give in to a business minded individual to fix everything. That’s my bet>

By pj

November 7, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

To Corporal: I did the link and was unimpressed. China has over a Billion people we need to keep up. It sounds like to me that there is a lot of fear mongering going on. Fear that this country is turning more Brown, Yellow and Black. If this is a problem maybe we need to give out birth control for free to every child rearing woman who wants them. Maybe we need to teach sex education in schools. Maybe any woman who doesn’t want to have a baby shouldn’t be crucified. Every way to keep the population down medically and educationally conservatives stand in the way of. Maybe we should cut back on the amount of immigrants allowed in but the bigger numbers are allowed from European nations. BTW several dozen newly sworn in American citizens this week had it done while on duty in Iraq.

As an afterthought I just heard that Chenny is having another medical procedure this weekend preformed at Andrews Air force Base Hospital. If that health care is good enough for him then it should be good enough for all Americans after all we’re paying for it and his salary.

By dw

November 7, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Bookman,

You make it sound like Bush joked around when he spoke about serious issues.
It is good to know that Barry was confident, composed and competent. I should note that he looks good in a suit and has a nice smile. Good presidential presentation being so much more important than that of substance. I will sleep better at night knowing the messiah is coming and utopia will arrive in January. I truly hope that the country improves in the next four years, but you libs think he is a god. Makes me sick how you fawn all over Barry. Will you tear him up in the media when he and his lib friends start removing the constitutional rights of those that don’t see eye to eye with the lib ideology. Because if somehow they turn the economy around, then they can go into full pursuit of the lib social agenda.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Obama’s remark about not conferring with a fortune teller like Nancy Regan did was oh so very presidential.

It was awful. Just awful.

I really think this man ought to be IMPEACHED for this.

IMPEACHED!!!

And I won’t rest until I’ve gotton the levers of that process moving.

IMPEACHED, I say!!!!

I mean, the HEAD ON A STICK kind!!!!

By Laugh now ('08), cry later ('12)

November 7, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Yeah, getalife, where are you? If you’ve got something better and more “progressive” than that type of investment-inducing tax plan, then I’d like to hear it, or do would you still like the “rich” to pay their “fair share”?

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

To pj

You’re all over the page but remember one thing ………. your grandchildren and what we are going to leave them.

A nation that cannot control its borders will cease to be a nation. It’s that simple.

Everyone in this country has access to emergency health care. It’s the law. Hospitals are not allowed to turn you away.

You show me anyone else who says they can’t afford a basic policy and I’ll take away their big screen color t.v., cigarettes, booze, $200 tennis shoes, $800 hub caps, etc., etc., etc. and they will be able to pay for a policy

No whining.

By RW-(the original)

November 7, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t it Hillary Clinton that claimed to have conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt?

All Nancy Reagan did was consult an astrologer.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Corporal: Everyone in this country has access to emergency health care. It’s the law. Hospitals are not allowed to turn you away.

Are you saying that’s not how it ought to be? :-)

*And whoever only gives a cup of cold water in my name to one of these little ones ….. he will surely not lose his reward.” Matthew 10:42

By @@

November 7, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Christopher Hitchens fancied himself a Soixante huitard.

Is that you PoliFore?

Get……..a……..lifffffe? They’re not difficult questions — multiple choice, but you do have to pick one. No evasive tactics.

Nibble……nibble.

By John the Bear

November 7, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

There are some things we must all remember:

1) “Change” for good or ill happens ALL BY ITSELF…

2) As an “Old Marine” I do now and always will respect the President of the United States. (Please notice that I did not include names because I am a good Christian and do not practice idol worship).

3) I am glad that it looks like my country is making progress on the road toward seeing people through the same lens.

4) Here is my hope for the future. I hope that Mr. Obama can fin within himself the intelligence and wisdom needed to admit mistakes when he makes them. I hope he has the courage to “make famous” scoundrels that are scoundrels. Most of all, I truly pray that he can try to do what is best for our country - not what is necessarily best for Barry Obama.

By John the Bear

November 7, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

There are some things we must all remember:

1) “Change” for good or ill happens ALL BY ITSELF…

2) As an “Old Marine” I do now and always will respect the President of the United States. (Please notice that I did not include names because I am a good Christian and do not practice idol worship).

3) I am glad that it looks like my country is making progress on the road toward seeing people through the same lens.

4) Here is my hope for the future. I hope that Mr. Obama can fin within himself the intelligence and wisdom needed to admit mistakes when he makes them. I hope he has the courage to “make famous” scoundrels that are scoundrels. Most of all, I truly pray that he can try to do what is best for our country - not what is necessarily best for Barry Obama.

By John the Bear

November 7, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

There are some things we must all remember:

1) “Change” for good or ill happens ALL BY ITSELF…

2) As an “Old Marine” I do now and always will respect the President of the United States. (Please notice that I did not include names because I am a good Christian and do not practice idol worship).

3) I am glad that it looks like my country is making progress on the road toward seeing people through the same lens.

4) Here is my hope for the future. I hope that Mr. Obama can fin within himself the intelligence and wisdom needed to admit mistakes when he makes them. I hope he has the courage to “make famous” scoundrels that are scoundrels. Most of all, I truly pray that he can try to do what is best for our country - not what is necessarily best for Barry Obama.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

Christopher Hitchens fancied himself a Soixante huitard.

Fancied himself a soixante-huitard?

Isn’t it the definition of one to fancy oneself one?

:-)

By Reagan's Ghost

November 7, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

Leave me alone. I need my rest.

By pj

November 7, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Corporal; I hope to leave them what they are getting: a more diverse, equal and gender friendly country.

As for health care, tell Chenny (who has more money than any of us) to reimburse this nation for all the check ups, follow ups and surgeries he’s had at our expense. Talk about welfare and hand outs, he takes the cake (and eats it too). You guys always take up for the status quo. Also, no one said health care shouldn’t cost you a premium and who are you to know what some people have and whether or not they have health care. You are making assumptions about people you don’t know. When the President, Vice President, Congress and the Supreme Court Judges start paying premiums I’ll shut up.

By TN Gelding

November 7, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

The unemployment rate is only 6.5%

See the last posting under this isn’t going to be pretty.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Les murs ont des oreilles. Vos oreilles ont des murs. The walls have ears. And your ears have walls, too.

France, 1968

By @@

November 7, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Sho ‘nuff Soixante!

Seulement dans one’ ; esprit de s Imaginez: c’est la guerre et personne n’y va!mais ici vous êtes journalier toute la journée.

Appréciez tandis que vous pouvez.

I will wait no longer for Getalife and I WILL NOT check out Bookman’s silk boxers upstairs.

Bonne nuit Soixante.

By TN Gelding

November 7, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

* AJC/DNC Management*

November 7, 2008 5:51 PM

In this case, you’re the exception.

Funny you didn’t mention the 20+% you lost under Bush before you pulled out.

If what you say turns out to be true, it’s going to suck for all of us.

Stop trying to sabotage our future. At least wait and see what the Obama administration trys to do before criticizing it.

By Gerald

November 7, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Liar liar pants on fire. Obama was rambling and incoherent, obviously exhausted from the presidential race but still inexcusable. He should have rested rather than going to the gym and shoot hoops. Also, the presidential duties will be much more grueling than the campaign was. Take a look at how youthful and vigorous Bill Clinton and George W. Bush were when they entered office and how wrinkled, beaten down, and haggard they were when they left and you will see the point. Bill Clinton in particular, does he even have any GRAY hairs left? Let alone black or brown or blond or what color they used to be … the guy’s hair is WHITE! So if Obama can’t handle the stress and fatigue now, the next 4 years are going to be rough.

Oh yeah, and don’t let me forget how he callously trashed Nancy Reagan. It was 100% true, of course, but you NEVER say such things in public, and not only did he do it, but he was so cavalier about it … it was actually a malevolently evil moment. Seriously, it was, and this comes from a person that despises the Reagans.

Bookman, you already lost all credibility when you called yourself a moderate and endorsed Roy Barnes’ multimember district redistricting sham (wasn’t illegal but should have been!), so now you are just making yourself a caricature and showing yourself to be fundamentally dishonest. How do you people look at yourselves in the mirror? The whole lot of you is really no better than George W. Bush, just a bunch of craven sick liars.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Alright @@, catch ya later for some more chump chat.

By John the Bear

November 7, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

Ah me …. One thing I can say for sure is that Mr. Obama needs to lay off the jokes or hire new writers and stick to the Teleprompter.

The Nancy Reagan thing was completely off message at the best and at the worst shows a complete lack of courtesy …. and we all know that courtesy is the soul (Rather like the double meaning here) definition of what a professional is. Hope this means we don’t have a low life gutter snipe for a President.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

Btw, @@, sorry to say, I don’t think babblefish is up to the task yet in a production environment. :-)

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

To Soixante huitard

1) I don’t think you read my whole post. It doesn’t have to be that way. That’s for those who fall through the cracks on an emergency basis.

2) Here’s an interesting quote from way back that you might find interesting. You’ll have to Google it to find out where it’s from because I can’t tell you or I will get in trouble and maybe kicked off the blog.

If a man will not work, let him not eat.

2) You’re probably going to hear from Jay. Sad, but he’ll tell you why.

By Anti-Jay

November 7, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

Jay,

I think you should volunteer to take the death penalty on Brian Nichols behalf as pentance for all the hate you have created on these blogs for the past year.

Otherwise, you are doomed to live in your self-created hell for the rest of your life.

You are a tortered soul. May God help you.

AJ

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

To Anti-Jay

I have my problems with Jay but that was uncalled for. This blog is for reasoned debate and not personal attacks.

By Amelia

November 7, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

By Gerald: It was 100% true, of course, but you NEVER say such things in public,

Spoken like a true southern gentleman. :)

By jon

November 7, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Obama’s appointment of Clinton’s dogwasher, Richard Daley’s steppin-fetchit, and all around jerk, Rahm Emanuel, shows how he is going to approach his first term. There won’t be any reaching across no aisles. He owes his soul to the ultra-liberals, and he is an ultra-liberal himself. He played to the center with his tax cut lie but he’s leftist thru and thru. Four and out.

By Soixante huitard

November 7, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

You’re probably going to hear from Jay. Sad, but he’ll tell you why.

Uh oh. Am I in trouble?

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 7, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

The whole lot of you is really no better than George W. Bush, just a bunch of craven sick liars.

Everybody is better than George W. Hitler! Too bad about your sour grapes Gerald.

By @@

November 7, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Oh babelfish! ‘Ya caught me Soix.

I’m versed only in the profanity that exudes from teenage italian and hispanic males who were my brother’s friends.

When they were feeling really generous, I got to chase fly balls that got away from the outfielders.

By Tell It Like It Is

November 7, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

There are 107 posts on this blog vs 200 million plus citizens of the United States of America. Personal rants about Bush and Obama have as much relevance as a snow ball in the Sahara desert. Both of these men were elected by the 200 million citizens to serve in the most demanding job in the world. I think we should all take a chill pill and not take our opinions and prose so seriously. I really feel that these people are pretty intelligent and do not need our petty comments.

We have experienced an over zealous economy that is now trying to adjust itself. Unfortunately we have not reached the bottom of the 1300 upper end slide in the stock market. A lot of jobs and 401ks(including mine ) will be lost before the economy stabilizes. Have a good weekend and try to enjoy yourself.

By AmVet

November 7, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

“The Corporal” at 7:40,

HEAR! HEAR!

Or is it HERE! HERE!?

I always get those mixed up.

Maybe he’s the next Dagny & Johns or whatever…

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

To Soixante huitard

I can’t tell you why or I’ll be in trouble.

By AmVet

November 7, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

Hmmmm…

President-elect Obama gives his first press conference and the DJIA goes up 250 points.

On a related note, 47.5 inches of snow fell in Deadwood, South Dakota, proving global warming is a myth.

By Sob

November 7, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Jay, I see your AJC sidekick Cynthia Tucker is still on her warm, fuzzy, Old Yeller, Hallmark card Obama story run — first the beautiful black Obama family part, and now his Grandparents…

Sorry, I’m going to sign off now, I’m tearing up in anticipation of the next Obama story part by Cynthia….

By What

November 7, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

Jay, which press conference were you watching?

Without his script Obama was not able to answer a “simple” yes/no question —

Q Mr. President-elect, do you still intend to seek income tax increases for upper-income Americans? And if so, should these Americans expect to pay higher taxes in 2009?

By TN Gelding

November 7, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

Laugh now, cry later

November 7, 2008 5:52 PM

Thinking like yours is what led to the soon to be $11 trillion national debt.

In 1983 federal revenue was down, partly because of reduced tax rates, and the deficit gap wasn’t closed until Clinton raised taxes AND cut spending.

Revenue was down below the Y2K level in 2001-2003 and the deficit gap will never be closed unless spending is drastically cut, which will also reduce revenue, or taxes are raised.

Freezing spending would also work over time barring a recession, but it looks like we might be entering a long one now.

Certainly lowering tax rates contributes towards growing the economy, but in the meantime you operate with huge deficits that result in tremendous debt.

By What

November 7, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Jay, sorry - I forgot to add in my above posting that as part of Obama’s response to the above question he replied “… The — my tax plan represented a net tax cut. It provided for substantial middle-class tax cuts. Ninety-five percent of working Americans would receive them…”.

I believe we’re all still trying to understand Obama’s definition of “tax cut”, and how a tax cut can apply to those who don’t pay taxes. Sounds a lot like the misnomer “tax rebate”, a rebate our family NEVER saw… Also waiting to see how Obama defines “middle class” the income level of which seems to drop by the day….

This is “Change” ????

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this

All Obama is thinking about now is what kind of puppy to get.

By "The Corporal"

November 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Did Blacks Tank Gay Marriage in California?

November 07, 2008 6:50 PM

“ABC News’ Alex Green Reports: Barack Obama won the presidential election on Tuesday but did the Democrats’ win contribute to the passage of a measure banning gay marriage in California?

Blacks, by in large, oppose gay marriage. Therefore, proposition eight banning gay marriage in a Democratic-leaning state such as California passes 52-48 percent. Blacks voted for it, overwhelmingly, 70-30.”

Oh, those evil, mean, discriminatory, holier than thou, church going, homophobic black people in California. How in the world are we ever going to enlighten them?

By chris.guy

November 8, 2008 3:00 AM | Link to this

Is this the same press conference that included comments about Nancy Reagan he’s already had to apologize for? That’s presidential?

By spankmonkey

November 8, 2008 7:17 AM | Link to this

All of you losers p** and moaning about what’s to come, I want you all to realize one simple fact. You did this as much as anybody.

You allowed the GOB to cannabilize John McCain in 2000, what’s precious to you now, you showed nothing but contempt for 8 years ago. You did this. You had a younger, fresher war hero to vote for in 2000, but you ran him over in your rush to elect a draft dodging, liquor drinking, come-to-jesus, cocaine cowboy.

THEN when given the chance to rectify your grievious error in 2004… * YOU DID IT AGAIN *

Charles Manson could’ve ran on the Democratic ticket this year and won, thanks to you. So shut up, quietly lick your wounds, and deal with it. It’s your fault.