Jay Bookman

By NRB

November 5, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Voter tells CNN on live TV that he got back in line and voted multiple times, reporter says “I think thats against the law but thats ok”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P2TPwrU4c4

By hillbilly ragger

November 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Yep, I set out the paper on the kitchen table this morning just before leaving for work, knowing my daughter would see the First Family’s beautiful, beaming faces.

Thanks again, Jay, for your willingness to suffer my foolisheness on this here blog.

By Sheri

November 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

YES! THIS IS A MONUMENTAL DAY IN AMERICAN HISTORY! THANK YOU, WHITE PEOPLE! THANK YOU, BLACK PEOPLE! THANK YOU, LATINOS/LATINAS! THANK YOU, ASIANS! AND THANK EVERYBODY IN BETWEEN! I CAN’T BELIEVE IT! SLAVES BUILT THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOW A BLACK FAMILY WILL BE LIVING IN IT! MY GOODNESS, LOOK HOW FAR WE HAVE COME! THIS IS A TREMENDOUS DAY INDEED! GOD BLESS EVERYONE ONE OF US! Now, all those who threatened to leave the country if Obama is elected, I expect to read about a mass exodus to Canada any day now. GO OBAMA!

By David

November 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

I was so excited this morning that I forgot to pick up a paper. I’ll have to go do that.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 5, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

America elected a man because of his color, that’s the implication of this comment thread.

What a shallow, substance less nation we have become.

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

**”This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one thats on my mind tonight is about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. Shes a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing - Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldnt vote for two reasons - because she was a woman and because of the color of her skin.

And tonight, I think about all that shes seen throughout her century in America - the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we cant, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.”** ~ President-elect Barack Obama, Nov. 4 ‘08

By Greg Mendel

November 5, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Unfortunately, we Georgians who voted for Obama weren’t exactly “a part of it.” Again, the electoral college stood in the way.

By Copyleft

November 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

America elected a man because of his color, that’s the implication of this comment thread.

Wrong as usual, Andy. The implication—indeed, the accomplishment—is that America has finally gotten OVER the issue of color to actually elect the better candidate.

And it only took a failed war, trampled Constitution, wrecked economy, devastated international standing, and several trillion dollars to do it.

http://www.theonion.com. Check the headline: “Nation Finally S-hitty Enough to Make Social Progress.”

By getalife

November 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

A great day in American history. A great day to be alive and witness history.

By NRB

November 5, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Dont get too giddy Jay. Just because you got your communist dictator in office doesnt make you right.

By Proud Black Man

November 5, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management,

You will never understand what the election of a black person means to my race. Its sad that you cannot feel what we feel. I am glad that you never had to experience the conditions that make us feel so proud. Have a good day.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

I tossed mine out. If you want it you can come and look through the rest of my garbage.

I’m tired already of hearing this election couched as an historic event - so was Pearl Harbor.

If a new push for the Fairness Doctrine is mounted by the Democrats concerning conservative talk radio shouldn’t it be aimed at liberal talk television also?

No unity, no compromise, no tolerance, no appeasement - just like you acted with Bush.

By BDAtlanta

November 5, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Mgmt,

You are the shallow, substance-less one amongst us.

I bet it was really cold and dark when you woke up in your home this morning.

By RealityKing

November 5, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

The AJC undoubtably sold more newspapers today than it has all year…, if not longer. But it still won’t save the impending layoffs. In fact an Obama win gurantees it. Because who needs the liberal parrots of the AJC when we now have an Obama website as our direct source of daily news??

By AJC/DNC Management

November 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

By saywhat? November 5, 2008 10:31 AM To AJC/DNC, @@, RW, dusty, dottie,and ragnar etc, Say this with me: President Barack Hussein Obama. Suck on that for the next eight years.

I guess this is above the pay grade of you liberals, so allow me to explain this in a little more detail.

A McCain victory yesterday would have consigned the Republican party to a minority status for decades to come and probably would have turned it over to the moderates forever.

McCain would not have gotten anything of substance passed into legislation and democrats would have whined and moaned about Republican obstruction 24/7 the whole entire time.

Now, not only can we seize the party back from the spineless moderates, the same moderates who have approval ratings of 22%, we can sit back and watch you screw everything up, incurring the wrath of the American people.

Did you really believe you are going to be able to keep all of your promises?

Puh-leeze.

Welcome back, Reaganism.

Great to see you again.

By Zach

November 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Driving to work this morning in my VW, I sipped my celebratory latte and listened to NPR, and I couldn’t help from grinning all the way, knowing that Andy, NRB, RB, et al will be whining and crying throughout the bloggoshere.

It’s a new day. Out with the old and in with the new.

By Sheri

November 5, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

AJC, ya boy lost because 91% of white people voted for McCain while PEOPLE OF ALL COLORS VOTED FOR OBAMA. So quit yer whinin’ and start accepting the fact that YOU HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT! GO OBAMA!

By AJC/DNC Management

November 5, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Coleman holds Senate seat against nasty, bitter liberal Franken.

bwa.

By getalife

November 5, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Well, our friends on the right are not being “real Americans” thinking “country first” and will not even give the new President a chance.

Ignore the trolls.

By RealityKing

November 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

My pre-teen daughter was also very excited about Obama’s win this morning. Right up until I told her that 25% of her allowance would be going to her younger brother from now on.. But, but, I worked all weekend while he watched cartoons she cried. To which I replied, “Spread the Wealth”.

Suddenly, she understands and is not so fond of Obama’s ideals anymore. Imagine that..

By Zach

November 5, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Great example to set for your daughter, faux-RealityKing! I’m sure you’ll be just as happy when she brings her first Democratic boyfriend to meet you.

By Sheri

November 5, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Corporal, CRY ME A RIVER, BABY! OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! Don’t you just wanna throw up? HA-HA!

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

To getalife

Republicans support the opposite party President when he is right and fight him when he is wrong.

Democrats never support the opposite party President.

The old adage is true …….. when Democrats are in office they are in power and when Republicans are in office they are ….. well ….. in office.

We compromise and reach across the aisle and you guys never do. All bets are off this time.

You will get the same from us as you gave to our President.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

AP takes back Call for Coleman in MN

Well within threshold for auto recount.

Could be December before we know.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

To Sheri

As a retired U.S. Secret Service agent I would still protect him with my life if need be. I don’t ask you to understand that (few do) but it’s called professionalism.

However, on a personal note this is truly a sad day for this Republic to have elected the most far left liberal in our history.

By GaLiberal

November 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

THE STAIN OF GEORGE BUSH AND THE UGLY RETHUGLICONS HAS BEEN ERASED! LONG LIVE PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!

By GaLiberal

November 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

By RealityKing@10:58 AM posted **My pre-teen daughter was also very excited about Obama’s win this morning. Right up until I told her that 25% of her allowance would be going to her younger brother from now on.. But, but, I worked all weekend while he watched cartoons she cried. To which I replied, “Spread the Wealth”.

Suddenly, she understands and is not so fond of Obama’s ideals anymore. Imagine that..**

What a a-hole. But then, you’re one of those racist Rethuglicon bootlickers so what should one expect. Next thing you’ll do is take her to a KKK cross burning.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And RealityKing is living proof.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

It’s already starting ……..

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4A37B520081105

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

As of 11:10 AM according to GA SOS website Chambliss at 49.9%

That would mean a run off….

Don’t know if early votes counted yet.

By RC

November 5, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

It’s New Orleans all over! I’m voting for Barak to get FREE STUFF!

By Sheri

November 5, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Corporal, I don’t give a crap what you do. OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BABY! Deal with it! (grinning like a Cheshire cat)

By saywhat?

November 5, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Can anyone suggest a cheese for the republicans, to go with their whine of epic fail?

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Democrats never support the opposite party President.

Corporal @ 11:04 — you may want to go back and check your “facts” about who helped to elect your hero Ronald Ray-gun in 1980. He won by convincing many Dems to vote for “change.”

Or are you just posting in generalities instead of facts again? Your BS-o-meter is off the charts today.

By NRB

November 5, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

This scumbag Obama is NOT my president. The media is also complicit in getting this absolute NOBODY into office. Hopefully they will be held accountable.

By RealityKing

November 5, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Why all the personal attacks Galiberal? You act as if I voted for McCain…, not. But in fact, all I did was follow Obama’s own socialistic financial policies right here at home. They are OK to teach to children aren’t they??

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

AJC Management,

That is not a factual statement about America electing a president based on his skin. It discounts the other messages that you offer that have insight and purpose. Race was a factor in deciding who won the election but there were people of both sides voting based on race. Some were for a black president others voted against him only because he was black.

Anyone who voted in that manor I have never, and will never have respect for them and their opinion.

The reason Obama won was because he ran a better campaign. Simple.

The fault of the republicans was that they never understood this was an election of non-typical voters. Meaning that typical strategies were not going to work. Our leaders of the republican party let us down.

The republican party focused on unworkable battles. While never giving a clear representation of how they differed from the Bush administration. There are many differences, that many on here used to mention before he ran for president, but they chose to excite the base without regard for the middle right voter. That is who was pushed into becoming middle left.

Make no mistake this election was not about race, or taxes, or any of that mess. It was not even an election to elect Pres. elect Obama, it was an election to vote against anything Bush or even close.

That is what the republicans should have realised. Had they then possibly they could have won, but I doubt it.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

To Goldie

Sorry, I meant liberal, one way, my way or the highway, democrats.

To Sheri

I really didn’t expect you to know what professionalism is. By the way ….. how about your kids? When are they signing up?

I just went by a military recruiting station and I didn’t see you liberal sons & daughters lined up out there to serve under your new Commander in Chief. What if he gets us in a real liberal war? You’re not going to leave the fighting to conservatives (as usual) are you?

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

And the cool thing is, their grandchildren will probably wonder what the big fuss was about.

Exactly!!

The definition of revolutionary transformation: The old order is suddenly made to look hopelessly dated - even ancient - and those who come after just shrug and can’t believe that things could have ever been that way. In other words, they take it for granted.

But we know better. :-)

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Goldie!

I’m glad you’re on the board this morning. I wanted to write this last night but couldn’t pull myself away from the TV:

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!

(That’s not just for Goldie, that’s for all my left friends, that was kind of a inside joke with Goldie and I - we were talking about putting a sign saying that on the gate of the White House)

Wow, it’s a good day!

By Copyleft

November 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

You didn’t go far enough, King. You shouldn’t be giving your kids an allowance at all… in true conservative fashion, you should get them 18-hour sweatshop jobs and pay them 5 cents an hour.

You remember the “good old days” of conservative-corporate dominance, right? Why not show your kids what Republicans REALLY stand for? And hey, maybe you could kidnap a black kid to do all the household chores, keep him chained in the basement, and not pay him anything at all!

Because that’s what “conservative values” are about. And that’s why America has rejected them.

By coj

November 5, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management, “The Corporal”, and RealityKing…the Wingnut Trio.

Can’t accept reality graciously and continue to spout venom like the hate mongers they are. But RealityKing has got to be the biggest jerk of the three for the way he treats his daughter. Way to go in enforcing your dictatorial powers and showing her what kind of a man you really are.

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

Corporal @ 11:42 — you may want to temper your inclination to use the terms “never” and “always” when posting about the Dem Party and its members. You may just find you have a little more credibility with your constant rhetoric-slinging here.

But, rant on Dude — you obviously need to get all that hatred out of your system here, like the other trolls today… just understand your credibility problem amongst the more rational among us.

By BDAtlanta

November 5, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

This election was: A smack in the face of NeoCons’ A smack in the face of wingnuts A smack in the face of fundamental religous nutcases of any religion

Fundamental Christians are the Western equivalent of Muslim extremists/terrorists. These are the people that blew up the abortion clinics in the 90’s and the Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City.

I say we take all the fundamentanutties to a desert in the Middle East (better to fight them over there than to have to to fight them over here) and gather up all the Muslim extremists/terrorists and let them have at each other. We will take the last man standing, put him in a straight jacket, and throw away the key.

By Paul

November 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

How’s your head this morning? (grin) Mine’s doing well, but the bottle ran dry just about the time I stopped toasting everyone and everything.

Congratulations to the President-elect. Classy speech last night. Equally classy was the speech by Sen McCain.

And now that the speeches are over, we’ll see the reality in the proposals. And if Pres Obama (I’m trying real hard not to laugh) can convince his own Party leadership (Spkr Pelosi, Sen Reid) that ‘change’ and ‘bipartisanship’ is a worthy goal.

Interesting that his first big challenge may not be foreign powers, or the Republican opposition, but the power brokers in his own Party.

This is gonna be a fun ride -

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Bosch — I love you, Man! Mission Accomplished, and boy, am I tired today. I was out canvassing some neighborhoods in my county the past few days. I have a vacation day from work today, and still walking around in a trance from lack of sleep. And still soakin’ up the amazing moment in history today.

By Sheri

November 5, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Corporal, I’m too old to join the service but what does your “profession” have to do with me stating OBAMA BEING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? You don’t get it; again, I DON’T GIVE A CRAP WHAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING! Can’t stomach the fact that Obama is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, can you? HA-HA!

By Richard

November 5, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

For those of you who think Obama won because he carried the black vote, partially true except he won amond white men and women as well.

The reality is that Obama ran on issues that are presently causing problems in this country and McCain ran on a past war record with clearly no idea of how the previous 4 elections (5 if you include this one) were won by the guy with less military background.

Obama targeted young voters who proceeded to show up in masses to support him. McCain catered to the hard core evangelical right which has been the down fall of the GOP since Terry Schivo and scares off moderates and other religons (think jewish population in Florida).

Another interesting thing. Historically when one party makes major gains in congress, two years later the other party pulls some seats back. Think in 1996 when Dems gained some seats after the GOP throttled them in 94. In the last two years, the Dems demolished the GOP in the ‘06 race and then took more in ‘08. This is either a reflection of a changing electorate or the inablility of the GOP to adjust to it.

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Uh, Management, sorry to interrupt your wake, but let me point something out for you.

I know that with W. F. Buckley gone conservatism isn’t much for subtlety of thought or - God forbid - paradox anymore. But let me suggest the following RE: America elected a man because of his color, that’s the implication of this comment thread.:

As for WHY Barack Obama was elected, that’s debatable and there were no doubt a multitude of factors. But as for the triumph of his being elected, one major factor of that is race — but not the way the Limbaugh crowd wants you to think (because as we know that crowd is the sworn enemy of all subtlety and paradox, or ‘nuance’ for those keeping score at home).

The glorious paradox of Obama’s election is that a black man was elected who happened to be black as Colin Powell put it. In other words, the relevance of Obama’s race is that his race is no longer vitally relevant.

Now, where do I score on your nuance scale, dittoheads?

America is not necessarily known for its celebration of nuance, but when it does do nuance the results are positively glorious .

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

I do not agree with Obama’s principle’s but to deny that this is a monumental civil moment in history. I am not one who thinks his policies will work but many do and they seem to be entranced by him. This should be viewed as a good thing, not because of policy but because of precedent. There is no longer an excuse or maybe even a plausible reason as to why anyone cannot make it. This has been proven that America as a whole is not racist. If the country could elect a non-white male into the highest office in the land then there can be no more overwhelming white bias.

No longer can people say they are not succeeding because of the color of their skin. This could be a time were America realizes that the dream and hope has never went away. Anything is possible to be achieved by anyone. From now on one’s success is their own doing. I hope we have heard for the last time that this happened or did not happen because I am black, or because I am Latino. Never again because all have seen now that is nothing more than a crutch and excuse in today’s society.

This is not to say racism does not still thrive here. It does, it is on all sides. Blacks against whites, Asians against blacks, whites against anything not white. But it has been proven on the 4th of Nov. 2008 that no longer can it be claimed one is unsuccessful, or successful because of the color of their skin. Because if someone that is supposed to be discriminated against can make it to President then what is your excuse.

Everything should be viewed at face value now, and there should be equal actions taken against those that discriminate against any race, not just non-white races.

I hope I have not, but am sure I have, offended anyone but this is my observation.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 5, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

By tcoach November 5, 2008 11:41 AM AJC Management, That is not a factual statement about America electing a president based on his skin. It discounts the other messages that you offer that have insight and purpose.

You miss my point, t.

Comment threads such as this one^^ demean the abilities of Oblahma and put his election into the mundane category of grievance fulfillment, which is fine by me.

75% of this country never owned slaves and fought vehemently against the expansion of the slave trade. Same thing with racial bias, i.e. Jim Crow laws. And the people that did liberate the blacks from slavery were the Republicans, the very party was formed for that sole purpose.

The democrats have conjured up this narrative that America as a whole is evil and racist, mainly to cover the sins of their past.

And they taught that to our children in the public education system, see voting results, age group 18-24.

Whether you like it or not, white guilt played a large part of yesterday’s developments.

Good for the democrats, they fooled us again.

Now, for the big overriding concern, why, I ask, do I, my party and my country get labeled as racist and evil when we had nothing to do with the crimes of the democrat party and actually helped the blacks escape injustice?

Do tell us, we’d love to hear.

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

LOL! I’m feeling good myself! I had to teach a class at 8:30 this morning - what was I thinking agreeing to that? Don’t know if I got anything across to anyone except - “Um, I’m sleepy and need some coffee!”

I still can’t believe he won so many electoral votes. When they called Ohio last night my mouth dropped.

His speech was fantastic, and I have to admit, so was McCain’s. He bowed out gracefully, so you have to give the old gipper that.

And yes, President-elect Obama will be EVERYBODY’S President - not just the liberals, so all you whiners out there in blog world this morning: SUCK IT UP!!! That’s what we’ve been doing for eight years.

Has Dusty formally announced her support for Obama yet? Did I miss that?

By BDAtlanta

November 5, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

For all of you trying to link Obama to Nazi Germany, check this out. The coolest campaign poster I’ve seen in a while (actually this was for Obama’s speech in Berlin.)

http://www.barackobama.com/images/berlin/berlin_03.pdf

This is Bauhaus style from Germany in the 1920’s-1930’. They fled once Hitler got power. Their leader, Walter Gropius, came here and taught at Harvard.

My German is rusty but I believe I can make out “I’m smarter than that old guy…and I don’t smell as bad as he does.”

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Has Dusty formally announced her support for Obama yet? Did I miss that?

Bosch — I believe we’re still waiting to witness Dusty’s version of “patriotism” this morning.

And for myself, when I heard that VIRGINIA had declared for Obama, I knew that McCain’s concession speech would be served up soon, and I knew then that this was REAL.

Not another 4-year election squeaker, like we’ve grown accustomed to lately, and I’m still in a trance and very emotional today.

By citizen

November 5, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

To tcoach 11:41am..I think this Presidential election was a vote against corporate welfare vs. welfare for the poor. Both parties pander for votes with promises of give-away programs.

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Management (The democrats have conjured up this narrative that America as a whole is evil and racist, mainly to cover the sins of their past … why, I ask, do I, my party and my country get labeled as racist and evil when we had nothing to do with the crimes of the democrat party and actually helped the blacks escape injustice)

Without getting into a philosophical discourse here on the difference between part and whole or a sociological one about the nature of institutions, I would just point out that the Left has never necessarily said that ‘America as a whole is racist and evil’ and whenever someone does, that person should be corrected. What they have said is that *in its history if not necessarily now (and even less so after last night) its institutions have been tainted by residual racism and that there remains work to do to correct the damage done by that residual racism. In other words, just as when an organism has been poisoned. that poison will affect the entire organism until it is removed, but that doesn’t mean that the organism itself has become poisonous.

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

And the people that did liberate the blacks from slavery were the Republicans, the very party was formed for that sole purpose.

DUH-Management, and we all witness here on this blog every day how you and your Party have veered so far away from Lincoln’s dream of equality for all.

Rant on, hater. And get to work on figuring out how to sell your Party to America now.

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

AJC you are speaking to the choir about past acts.

I am not far removed from the 18-24 crowd, I am only 27. I also voted for McCain. I just think attributing his sucess only to race is inaccurate.

Obama gaining the nomination and defeating Hilliary I do say was heavily influenced by white guilt. As far as the general election, I feel it was more of a ball dropped by our party than it was anything else.

I completly agree though as I am consistantly attacked for sticking up for white people on here. Was blasted a few days ago for saying white men are the most discriminated against.

My ancestors did not come to this country until 1858. None of my family ever had any slaves. I am unaware of any formwer clan members as well. Matter of fact, my grandfather was a mayor of a small town in georgia, it is not a small town any longer. While mayor he lost an election because my grandfather believed in integration of the schools.

So I completly understand, and I do not understand why future generations are held responsible for past actions. It almost at times seems as if people intentionally look for things people say and how they may be deemed racist.

Hope you see my point now that I was only trying to state that the result of the election is musch more of a result of the republican parties failures than of the immoral actions of some, or many depending on your view.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 5, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

By Paul November 5, 2008 11:55 AM Interesting that his first big challenge may not be foreign powers

Spoke too soon, Paul-

Russia to base missiles on EU border

Gosh, I wonder what that decision was based, hmmmm.

They know we’ve been neutered.

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Was blasted a few days ago for saying white men are the most discriminated against.

And rightly so, tcoach, if that’s what you were posting. And I believe that President Obama’s success last night can be attributed to many enlightened white men and women in America who have been considering what is best for our country in this moment of our history.

By BDAtlanta

November 5, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Mgmt, Your history lesson is partly correct. Yes the Republicans were the party of Lincoln and the KKK was the terrorst/extremist arm of the Democratic Party….

Until the 1960’s. The roles reversed when Nixon wooed the Southern Democrats who were all p** off about Civil Rights. Then the Republicans became the party of intolerance and hate while the Democrats became the liberal party of progressive thinking.

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Citizen I have to disagree that it was about welfare for poor or welfare for corporate types. Because both candidates supported welfare for corporate America, i.e. the bailout. Only one candidate was for welfare of teh poor. Which is why I feel it was more about Bush and that many never gave McCain a chance of gaining their vote, because he was a republican.

When people heard he was rep. they immediatly tuned him out and went to the other candidate, regardless of who that was.

While if what you sy is true then you are saying that people voted to give themselves money, as stated above both were for corporate welfare. I really hope people would not vote for president based on how much money he was going to promise them. That is not what I hope this country stands for, nor do I believe it is what it stands for.

That is an interesting point if what you say is the cause it is sad that an election was in essence bribed away.

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

BDAtlanta: *My German is rusty but I believe I can make out “I’m smarter than that old guy…and I don’t smell as bad as he does.”

Yeah, exactly! :-)

No actually it;s surprisingly prosaic, with no messages or slogan per se in the ad. The poster just gives the factual info on the meeting, the time the doors open and requests that people minimize the personal belongings they bring to the event.

But you’re right. The symbolism of the layout and style are unmistakable.

By getalife

November 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Andy,

It is in response to w’s missile defense system. You know that.

Come on.

President Obama’s first challenge is another bush recession. It will take his first term to clean up w’s mess.

Try being a “real American”, think “country first” and support President Obama.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

To Goldie

There’s a little hyperbole in there if you know what that means. However, look inward first.

To BDAtlanta

A few incidents by criminal “Christian” fanatics vs. thousands (and continuing everyday) by Islamic fanatics and you try to make a valid comparison and try to tie in all fundamental evangelical Christians? Shame, shame.

By the way, the reason I put Christian in italics is simple. “Not everyone who calls me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.”

But Sheri

How about your kids and grandkids? Let’s get them signed up ! I am sure now that Obama is President that ROTC will be coming back to San Francisco and Military Recruiters back to Ivy Leaque campuses. Right ?

To Bosch

We’ll suck it up but we won’t be quiet anymore than you were. That’s fair isn’t it?

To Goldie

Lincoln’s dream of equality for all?

“Free them, and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this … we cannot then, make them equals.” (Lincoln’s first reply to Stephen Douglas, first debate, 4/21/1858.

He helped free black people as slaves but like most learned people of his day (i.e., Darwin) he didn’t not believe they were genetically or socially equals. Therefore, by today’s definition Lincoln was a racist.

Get your facts straight.

By GreenJeans

November 5, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Morning, all:

Three flutes of champagne last night: 1) To our red-white-and-blue selves, 2) To the end of this election cycle, and 3) To the awesome fact that we will transition power in January without one drop of bloodshed.

Today I raise the coffee cup (and aspirin bottle) to: 1) President-elect Obama, 2) McCain for the classy concession speech (jeers to his mouthy, vile supporters, however), and 3) once again, our American selves.

My wish is that we align our thoughts with a sense of the Divine, and live in ways so that others may find inspiration and hope.

From BO’s speech last night: “…the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracey, liberty, opportunity and unyielding hope.”

Bravo, and cheers.

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

BDAtlanta: *My German is rusty but I believe I can make out “I’m smarter than that old guy…and I don’t smell as bad as he does.”

Yeah, exactly! :-)

No actually it;s surprisingly prosaic, with no messages or slogan per se in the ad. The poster just gives the factual info on the meeting, the time the doors open and requests that people minimize the personal belongings they bring to the event.

But you’re right. The symbolism of the layout and style are unmistakable.

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Enjoy your day! You deserve it!

By the way, did you see those pictures of the celebration in Atlanta on AJC’s website? There was one of a woman with a Saxby hat on all torn up when FOX announced Obama had won.

It made me laugh. Her poor world is shattered.

By Lord Help Us

November 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Andy, your criticism of PRESIDENT-Elect Barack Obama is aiding and abetting Russia and possibly other nations that do not have our best interests in mind.

Please put your country first!

By GMAN

November 5, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it, the GOP lost because they offered the American people an inferior product one time too many. An old war relic and an incompetent side-kick don’t make for a successful team. Now repeat after me… President Barak Obama!!!

GET USE TO IT!

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

To GreenJeans

True democracy will leave this country with a whimper - not with a bang.

By Sheri

November 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Corporal, my kid is 10 so QUIT WITH THE RED HERRINGS, WILL YA? Say it with me: OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! Now, was that so hard? (smile)

By BDAtlanta

November 5, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Corporal, Fanatics are fanatics; their means are the same. The frequency of action is beside the point when the purpose of action is the same.

They both harbor fear and hatred of anyone/anything that does not agree with their own beliefs. Occassionaly going off the handle is no better than more frequently going off the handle.

And I don’t include anyong in Iraq who has fought us for taking over their country. If a country came into the USA and took it over, I would be fighting them tooth and nail, house by house, street by street. Folks might not understand that but that is what our famous military leaders meant when they talked about respecting the enemy.

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Goldie please don’t get all riled up.

I said they were discriminated against and I can provide examples of a completly distorted system were it is socially acceptable for one race to say something while it is completly outlandish if a comprable or even the exact same thing is said by one race.

Have you looked at what is socially acceptable.

Don Imus, who I think is an idiot, was fired for saying the nappy.. trash that he spit out. That is fine I agree he is a bigot.

But then why is Lil’ Wayne allowed to say the word “cracker” 11 times in one of his songs. That same song is played many of times a day on the radio, yet you have not seen the first protest.

Also how many schools list themselves as Historically White Colleges? Watch on t.v. soon you will see advertisments for a game to be played between HBC’s it is even called the HBC classic. How is that equality.

Better yet if you know anyone who is in the coaching industry ask them if racial discrimination exist. Try to see how hard it is to get hired as a white assistant coach. Many of my friends are in college coaching and it is even talked about. One of them even had a coach to tell him “well we really need to hire a black coach right now”

So why should I be attacked for saying white men are discriminated against.

Equal means Equal. Or is that not what you want.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

By Goldie November 5, 2008 12:23 PM DUH-Management, and we all witness here on this blog every day how you and your Party have veered so far away from Lincoln’s dream of equality for all.

Golduh: Back that statement up, I’d really like to see it.

Tell me that I am a racist because I voted against a radical socialist.

Prove to us how shallow you are, how little knowledge you have of your own doings.

My party placed a highly qualified black woman in the position of Secretary of State and you liberals went ballistic, I have documented proof of your side racially discriminating against her, including friends of the cartoonist of this very news paper.

Does this not make you a racist too?

~~~~~

tcoach: First thing out of the box this morning I blamed not only the moderate Republican party that we have become but also Bushie, that POS, for this loss. We have to get away from what they created and get back to our Reaganist roots.

~~~~~~

al-Gitmo: Why was the decision made today?

By Mad As Zell

November 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

I didn’t think that the liberal marxist demoncrap afro-eurotrash left could have registered enough dead folks, cartoon characters, drug addicts, drunken homeless bums, convicted felons and lazy good for nothing welfare moms to steal this election, but, boy, was I wrong! ACORN and the defeatist looney lefties overwhelming succeeded in helping to fraudulently STEAL THIS ELECTION from hardworking Americans, like their going steal our money! The left has finally succeeded in its lifetime goal of installing an ILLEGITIMATE ISLAMOFACIST MARXIST in office as a shadow president to represent the fringe leftist point-of-view!

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Actually, I’m 90% sure that Management is a computer program that is only periodically monitored by a human (probably down in the bowels of FOX news) who throws in a scrap or two of dialogue here and there to make it topical.

By gadem

November 5, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Well it is official

Obama is a natural born citizen…he is a Christian…he is not a terrorist…what else?

By RealityKing

November 5, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Markets react to Obama win…

DOW -301.23 -3.13%

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

YES HE DID!!!!!

EVERYBODY SAY IT WITH ME!!!!

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!!!

By BDAtlanta

November 5, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Stevens might win Alaska? Duh! Hello!

No wonder Palin got elected governor there…do they not have cable TV there?

By TN Gelding

November 5, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

RealityKing

November 5, 2008 1:08 PM

You know better than that.

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Corporal @ 12:47 — maybe you would’ve better understood my words if I had posted “liberty for all”… Lincoln was imperfect just as we all are, but he was a man ahead of his time and way out in front of your American white man’s feeling of “discrimination” if he could not remain Da Boss over everyone.

And just like DUH, you should figure out how you’re going to sell your Party to America now, because obviously fear of “the black man” and his “associations” ain’t gonna work anymore. Give us a real reason to listen to you now. You can’t even claim that you know how to be fiscally responsible or to be able to contain your war-mongering and nation-building impulses all around the world.

Show that you can be real conservatives for a change and not just full of rhetorical BS. That may be a beginning for your Party.

Good luck, Corporal.

By Lord Help Us

November 5, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

tcoach, as a fellow white dude, I really do not need you advocating for my rights, defending me from discrimination or speaking in any way on my behalf.

I promise you I am doing great. If you are determined (as you apparently are) to see discrimination against white men, then I have no doubt you can find it.

However, to equivocate the discrimination you speak of with TRUE discrimination that has occurred most recently in our country toward African Americans is just plain stupid.

Okay, Don Imus got hosed for saying something stupid and some black rappers have not gotten equally hosed for saying even more stupid stuff. So what?!?!?!

Trust me, fellow honky, there are bigger issues out there to tie yourself to other than discrimination against white men.

Geez….

By RealityKing

November 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Financial advise from the senior writer of Money Magazine…, before the impending Obamadoom.

“Now that Barack Obama has won the White House, consider selling any winning stocks. The President-elect has said he intends to raise the capital-gains tax rate from 15% to 20%, and he will get pressured to lower that income threshold of $250,000. So if you’re sitting on some stock that has risen in value since you bought it, consider unloading it before the rate rises.”

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

To BDAtlanta

I hear you but this was your statement.

Fundamental Christians are the Western equivalent of Muslim extremists/terrorists.

Now, there are millions of fundamental (evangelical) Christians in this country who abhor the type of violence you mentioned (i.e., abortion clinics as well as the deadly violence abortion doctors do to unborn babies everyday).

I am a U.S. Marine Corps combat veteran and a retired supervisor with the United States Secret Service (27 years) and also a life-long fundmentalist Christian.

Do you wish to amend your statement?

To Sheri

Well, let’s get him/her enrolled in Jr. ROTC then. Our Commander in Chief is going to need them down the road.

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us,

Well said, and as another white dude, I can say, I’m doing okay too.

tcoach,

You’re whining about being a white dude in this country and how it’s not fair? Are you freaking serious? Dude, life not being fair sometimes is not discrimination.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

AGAIN! EVERYBODY SAY IT WITH ME:

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!!!!

YES HE DID! OH, YES HE DID!

I can’t wait until inauguration. I need to get out my dress up duds.

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

DUH, Corporal, tcoach and other moaning trolls— Oh, Boo-Hoo!

How many hankies are you wusses gonna need today, feelin’ like such “discriminated against” white men in America? I guess the fall from the top is too hard for some wusses. And you’ve only had over 100 years to try and get used to living as equals with other Americans.

Or as one of my heroes so eloquently stated a decades ago: “Instant Karma’s gonna get you!”

By Mad As Zell

November 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

These leftist idiots pushed America to sign its death warrant last night! Anyone who legitimately sided with the fringe left last night deserves what they got coming to them! Legitimately hardworking real Americans will not just sit idly by and accept this maniacal islamofacist as their illegitimate president! It will be a cold day in hell before I ever refer to that dangerous dictator-in-waiting as President! * BaRAT HUSSEIN OSAMA WILL NEVER be my PRESIDENT! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!*

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

AJC my fault you did indeed. I appologize, I am just trying to ensure that more people are not accused of racism, it seems to be a buzz word lately. So I did not want you to give those who would a chance to fuel their fire with your words.

I am just tired of people blaming race.

While ther is racism in the world and our country I feel people use the phrase too lightly. One day it is going to be like the boy who cried wolf. There are those who would use race as a tool to gain or overthrow political and social power. However to attribute racism as to the cause anytime a white person does not agree or says something bad about a black person is losing its shine. Continue and when there is evil and racism no one will believe you because many of you have used it as an adjective for republicans and white people for far too long.

By Goldie

November 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

I was talking to a friend of mine a while ago (who, btw, is a pretty hard core Republican dude) - and we both agreed:

Until the GOP gets off the abortion and gay marriage thing, the party is going to continue on it’s downward spiral until it totally does not exist anymore.

You lunatic fringe moral police have got to go form your own frakking party and leave the rest of the 90% of thinking people in this country alone.

By GreenJeans

November 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

To Corporal at 12:55:

The picture you painted of yourself yesterday, prostrate before your idolatrous McCain/Palin yard sign, yet praying that God’s will be done, speaks volumes.

You remind me of my own mother: yesteryear’s wood drowning in the waters of tomorrow.

Peace to you.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

To Goldie

Don’t throw such a hissy-fit.

All I did was correct a factually incorrect statement you made about Lincoln. He abhorred slavery but at the same time believed that blacks were socially, genetically and politically inferior. We all know that’s not true and absurd by today’s standards so get over it.

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Goldie

Interesting you brought up karma. I was feeling a sense of instant karma last night. I thought about all the negative crap McCain threw out at Obama - and Obama just brushed it off. He stayed on message and was so much more consistent and calm and eloquent. By the end of the campaign, McCain looked like a tired old grumpy man. Who wants a tired old grumpy man to be POTUS? Not me. I thought about all the hateful crap I’ve read about Obama the past few months, and the people who have professed to some of the most extraordinary bs about the man I’ve ever seen.

Karma is a real, and it’s a great thing. Believe it people, you saw it last night.

AGAIN!!!!!

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!!!!

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

To Bosch

We won’t get off the abortion thing anymore than we wouldn’t get off the slavery thing.

By dave

November 5, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

BDAtlanta-

There was a guy just like you several years ago. His name was Joseph Goebbels. He spewed the same kind of crap you do, except it was against the Jews. It ain’t happening this time; we fight back. We’ll see how Obama handles things, and we’ll either vote him back in, or vote him out. Same for the Congress and Senate. I’m upset, but it’s not the end of the world.

Yet.

By dave

November 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

BDAtlanta-

There was a guy just like you several years ago. His name was Joseph Goebbels. He spewed the same kind of crap you do, except it was against the Jews. It ain’t happening this time; we fight back. I’ll fight to the death before somebody puts me in a concentration camp. We’ll see how Obama handles things, and we’ll either vote him back in, or vote him out. Same for the Congress and Senate. I’m upset, but it’s not the end of the world.

Yet.

By RW-(the original)

November 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

RealityKing,

You should make sure you unload those winning stocks before the end of December. Obama can make the tax increase retroactive to January 1st.

/Drive by post. Later!

By Lord Help Us

November 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

tcoach, Mad as Zell just discriminated against (or soiled himself, who can tell?) and I am a white man.

Defend me, he discriminated against me just because I support Obama.

HELP!!!!!!

By Bosch

November 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

Go to Jay’s new thread if you want to has the abortion thing. You might be surprised at some of the election results last night.

Until your party does, you will continue to lose.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

To GreenJeans

I’m so glad you remembered that and brought it up. I believe His will was done. His …… not mine.

The purpose is yet to be seen. Sometimes He lets us reap the consequences of our own actions.

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

BaRAT HUSSEIN OSAMA WILL NEVER be my PRESIDENT! THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN! from Mad as Zell.

This is somebody’s attempt at a vicious parody, right?

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Lord and Bosch, never said I was advocating for your rights.
I am also doing fine. I have a secure job and am free can’t ask for more.

Lord you said true discrimination. And went as far as to type true in all caps. Then is this true discrimination.

One of the groomsmen from my wedding was interviewing for a head assistant coaching position. He had a sucsessful playing career as a collegiate and as a pro in europe. He then coached at a div. II school. That school went to the national tournament 3 straight years and was ranked top 5 all year, all of these his recruits.

Then as he is applying for a job at a div. I level College he is told during the interview, you are more than qualified but, we really need to hire a black coach right now. That school did hire a black coach, one who had 3 years less coaching experience than my friend. Also the guy who got the job had no college playing experience much less professional. Oh yeah and the man who recieved the job his team had a sub .500 season the year before.

So in what way is that not discrimination?

Bosch, you wrote this “Dude, life not being fair sometimes is not discrimination.”

But now if I say this to someone not white then I am accused of either being insensative or a racist. Why?

Do you offer this up everytime a person claims racism or only because I am white do you say this to me?

Equal means equal.

By Copyleft

November 5, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

It’s true that America has its own Christian Taliban, with much the same level of frenzied, irrational devotion to the idea of theocracy… and backed by the hate that in turn fuels violence.

But be fair… the American fundamentalists have only killed a few people here and there (and called for the deaths of many others); the Muslim fanatics actually killed THOUSANDS in recent years.

So our religious nuts are better; they’re lazy.

By Lord Help Us

November 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Sure, tcoach, that’s discrimination (if it happened).

For every one example you just gave, there are probably about 1,000 that go the other way, even today.

What was your point, again?

By GreenJeans

November 5, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

To Corporal at 1:32:

I respect your belief, and understand too well the bars that it places on the spirit.

It is encouraging, however, to see you inching closer to truth: God doesn’t give two hoots who was elected last night.

That’s our human nonsense getting in the way.

By HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A CONSERVATIVE SCORNED

November 5, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

I’m giving you all a little bit of fair warning (more fair warning than the American people were given). There will be hell to pay for the and the mockery, abomination and subversiveness of the American voting process that took place yesterday. What happened last night will NOT and should NOT ever be allowed to happen again. This nation will burn in hell for the decision that a few elitist liberals were allowed to make for it without the full consent of the American voting public. Northern Aggression has been tolerated for way too long, this type of leftist aggression is a direct insult, a slap to the faces of pure red-blooded all-American people! These repeated insults and aggression by elitists and fringe lunatics trying to drive this nation off of a cliff, to the HARD LEFT will not be tolerated no longer! True Americans will not sit by and allow facist outsiders to take our freedoms and steal our American and Southern Heritage through an election process that is being openly subverted right in front of our face! Serious payback will be forthcoming to Benedict Arnold sellouts and leftist traitors in the weeks, months and years ahead, especially across the South…..

By tcoach

November 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Then name one lord and do not question my honesty never have lied to you, have no reason. I do not question yours because I have no information to the contrary. But it did happen, just this past spring and it was a school in conference USA. Which that is ironic just thought of that.

So I have not seen an actual 1st hand account of when this has happened with details of a source you know.

Are you saying it does not matter as well since according to you it happens at a 1000 to 1 ratio then that means it is irrelevant. I could give you at least 8 more incidences were this has happened but I do not know for a fact that it indeed happened as I was told.

But I guarantee that I was not speaking up for you. I was speaking up against the consist and unfounded claims of racism made everyday on this blog and all over our media outlets.

Just look at how quick bosch was to tell me it is not discrimination it is life and sometimes it ain’t fair. How many times do you think she has said that to a black person claiming racism.

That is what I mean when I speak of discrimination. That there is a set of socially unacceptable things that white people cannot say, while the society does not hold other races accountable as they do white men. Show me info were that is not true.

How many comics make fun of and ridicule white people, while the comic is not white.

What happens when comics attack stereotypes about Black people if the comic happens to be white.

Equal means equal! And obviously equality is not something you are for.

By "The Corporal"

November 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

To Bosch

Maybe lose before men but not before God. That’s much more important to me as it’s eternal.

To GreenJeans

Oh, but He does - and it’s all for His ultimate purpose even though we see through a glass darkly now. Not even a sparrow falls to the ground that He does not know ……..

God bless ……….

By Copyleft

November 5, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Scorn: Your problem is that the Obama voters ARE the “real Americans.” We’re the majority, and we’re guiding the direction of OUR society.

If you choose not to participate, that’s your choice. But don’t pretend that America belongs to you. It doesn’t.

By leni

November 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

To the person who linked to the Berlin ad. A Tiergarten is a zoo. And the text says lots of free stuff, and soon it will be like the old days .