Jay Bookman

By Plumber Joe

November 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Yawn. Bookman bores me.

By Kiljoy

November 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

This election is a referendum on the sorry state of both parties. People aren’t voting for liberalism or even for the Democratic party as much as they are rejecting failure and politics as usual. We only have two choices now, republican and democrat, so when one fails so miserably what else can you do?

The democrats shouldn’t celebrate because they’ll be tossed in a few years too!

By me

November 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Well, if someone with an British accent says it, it must not only be true, but also charming.

I saw these articles 4 years ago too. Let me know how this prediction looks after the next 4 years.

By patriot

November 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

You are full of it, Bookman. You know very little about conservatism, since you are blinded by your socialist/liberal views. You wish conservatism would go away, but there are still a great many of us who don’t intend to let that happen. Your comments are just what I expect from AJC hacks. The only good thing about the liberal bias of your rag is that you are rapidly on the way out of businesss, and you and the other liberal cheerleaders bear much of the responsibility for it’s demise.

By David

November 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

It’s a necessary death, and it’s the only way they’ll ever be able to return successfully to real conservatism.

By ron

November 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Four years of socialism will cure that.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Modern GOP

Now that’s the oxymoron from hell ain’t it?

By David

November 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

FYI, Sidney Blumenthal is an American who worked for President Clinton.

By newrandyt

November 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

I will concede that the current group of Republicans may have tarnished the Republican party. Unfortunately, you now have a group of radicals controlling the Democratic party. As long as the ultra left wing elements of the Democratic party (Harry Reed, Nancy Pelosi, and Barney Franke) control their party, a swing back to the center is inevitable somewhere in the future as the voting public tires of their agendas.

What you fail to note, is that the public opinion polls give just as low marks to the Democratically controlled Congress as the White House. The problem with BOTH parties is that they have either a) totally forgotten that most of the country, irrespective of party affilitaion, is Centrist, or b) are only after their own agenda or their own self interests, with no concern for the majority of the people. The leadership of both parties has swung far to the right or to the left of the majority of the people.

Right now, I am in the loneliest group of all…a single, fairly high earning male…too high an income to benefit from Obama’s “redistribution of wealth” plans, and too poor to benefit from the Republican “rich man, trickle down economics”.. Basically I am hosed no matter who wins.

By Jake

November 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Hopefully, it will also mean the end of unregulated capitalism and most of the regressive taxation. Since 1980, primarily through the 1981 and 2001 and 2003 tax law changes we went from a progressive tax system to a regressive one. Paying executives billions of dollars to destroy the companies they work for and the world economy and allowing Anne Cox Chambers to have a lower marignal tax rate than I do is obscene!

By Lord Help Us

November 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Um, me…

Sydney is an American (lives here too…all his life).

By Kevin

November 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

We are still a center right nation that Mr. Obama should not ignore. I am a fiscal conservative and am registered as a Republican. In 2004, I voted for Mr. Kerry as a protest against Mr. Bush’s refusal to issue one presidential veto on spending.

Given that background, I believe that many Americans do not want more government. I believe that this will be the wilderness years for Republican to hopefully come back to it’s roots as a small government party.

By FOX/GOP Management

November 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Jay, it is indeed the end of the Reagan era, when the modern GOP panders more to the idiots on the far right of their party that distates education, panders to illiteracy, fear-mongering, hate-mongering, and questions Americans’ patriotism every chance they get.

Specimen A—Sean Somebody. A school drop-out, no wonder he and his ilk constantly teach their followers that education is “elitism.” They pander to mostly the uneducated, and or school drop-outs who are soo ready to justify their failures on racial and emotional grounds.

They claim to be ‘pro-life,’ yet they support wars which shed the blood of thousands of innocent lives.They claim to like smaller government, yet the same people voted TWICE for GW Bush who expanded government more than any president in US history. The same people will vote for GW Bush yet AGAIN, if he qualified to run despite his abyssmal performance in office.

**Without fear, hate, wars, chaos, confusion, tension, e.t.c, the modern GOP cannot win any elections. With the likes of ignorant and moronic right-wing talk show hosts channelling the future of the GOP, it is time for them to do some hard sould-searching before they can even win big again.”

Enufff!!!

F-Word Network/GOP Management

By Taxpayer

November 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

If the new and improved GOP turns out to be more of the same Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr, etc., then thanks but no thanks. The GOP needs an enema.

By JeremiahWright

November 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

If voters had any sense, they’d see that Democratic Congress (Frank, Dodd, Pelosi) created the economic problems. It’s nothing to do with the Bush administration. And now they’re going to make it worse with Obama. Scary times ahead.

By Tony

November 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Brilliantly thought out and said, Mr. Bookman.

By Dennis G. Berdanis

November 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

I’m an independent that has probably voted GOP for national and local candidates about 70% of the time. Today I voted even in local elections against the GOP. They have totally lost touch and faith with middle America and this election will hopefully be a wakeup call for them.

By ByteMe

November 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Poor newrandyt. So wrong in so many ways. Let me take just one here:

What you fail to note, is that the public opinion polls give just as low marks to the Democratically controlled Congress as the White House.

The true “poll” is the shift in the party control over the house in the election. Which way is it moving tonight? If the Democratically controlled Congress had such low marks, why are people giving the Democrats more power?

Could it be that you’re quoting a nonsensical “approval” poll instead of a poll asking which party people would prefer in power? Try this one from Gallup:

Democrats Lead on Generic Ballot

By AF

November 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“Its [the Republican Prty’s]only chance for success was in picking a candidate who made his name as the anti-Republican, and even that ploy has failed.”

I think they didn’t so much pick McCain as kill off all his competition. The Republican Party is so fractured they don’t know who they are.

Being somewhat in the liberal/moderate side of things, I thought, for the first time in a very long time, I really had a choice between two good, qualified candidates who could work from the center. Then, McCain picked Palin and it was clear I was only fooling myself.

By David

November 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Ah, yes, the unbiased opinion of a drunk driving Clintonista slime-king quoted in a lefty UK newspaper. I see Bookman continues to leverage his considerable journalism skills.

Regardless, if this is the end of the Reagan era, it’s the beginning of — what? The Carter era? Maybe the LBJ era? Can’t be a return to Clinton because Clinton at least paid lip service to free markets and deregulation.

I guess we’ll find out after the coronation, once the oceans stop their rise and all that.

By itpdude

November 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

The GOP deserves to lose. I thought they would learn their lesson in 06 but they didn’t. Two front war, seemingly anti-science, contract awards to friends, corruption, illegal immigration fumbling, bailout, etc, etc, etc.

It’s amazing the race is even competitive.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Well, except for the exit polls that are showing a close race in all of the battleground states.

And you just know people are lying about voting for Oblahma or “undecided.”

You can still make a difference, get out and vote!

By RealityKing

November 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Sidney Blumenthal!? Jay is repeating the bile of a man that is as progressively corrupt as a Clinton!!?? Go figure..

Blumenthal served as senior adviser to Bill Clinton from 1997 until 2001. His roles included advising the President on communications and public policy, on which he was an obvious failure. But because of his previous career in journalism he was able to pass through stories about Clinton that would have otherwise been disregarded as partisan. Blumenthal was accused of not only tainting the meida pool but also attempting to discredit the office of the counsel by leaking top secret stories. Great sources…, if your a liberal loon.

By pjohn

November 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

One thing is for certain, the modern GOP stopped practicing fiscal responsibility.

You can’t just talk about small government and cutting spending to enable tax cuts while simultaneously running up 1/2 trillion dollar deficits every 2 years. After 30 years, people start to realize that you’re full of it.

What’s the point of voting for the “conservative” party if they’re going to spend as much as the “liberal” party? At least the Democrats are honest about it.

By AF

November 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

“Its [the Republican Prty’s]only chance for success was in picking a candidate who made his name as the anti-Republican, and even that ploy has failed.”

I think they didn’t so much pick McCain as kill off all his competition. The Republican Party is so fractured they don’t know who they are.

Being somewhat in the liberal/moderate side of things, I thought, for the first time in a very long time, I really had a choice between two good, qualified candidates who could work from the center. Then, McCain picked Palin and it was clear I was only fooling myself.

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

ABOUT THAT CENTER RIGHT NATION BULL DOOKEY

Here

By Susan

November 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

The one topic no one seems to be addressing is the extraordinary feeling of euphoria many of us are experiencing at finally being able to take steps to end the most dysfunctional administration in our lives. To be able to vote for either candidate is the first active choice we have had to end the Bush years and begin to rebuild our national reputation, relationships with other countries, our economy and to help heal the horrors experienced by our military families, both abroad and those who remained at home.

I could simply dance a jig in the streets to think that we are closer every day to the end of the worst presidency in our history. One of the men of conscious for whom we are voting will lead us to a new way of seeing ourselves and re-evaluating what it means to be an American. For that I am enternally grateful, regardless of who wins.

By Zach

November 4, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

I’m really enjoying the bile spewfest from the Wingnuts today. I guess it’s true, an animal knows when it’s about to die.

By I'm Your Huckleberry

November 4, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Jake at 4:39,

Either you don’t know the definition of a regressive tax system or you’re lying.

Upper income people may a MUCH greater share of the total tax burden now vs. the Reagan years. As a matter of fact, those people pay a greater share of the total today vs. when President Bush took office.

Leftists don’t use facts and logic, just emotion. Please, do your homework. If you then want to pursue the economies of Castro, Chavez, Kim, et. al, then go for it.

By Lord Help Us

November 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Curly’s gonna lose it…

By Ellis St. John

November 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

The end of divisiveness, cronyism, faux conservatism, war-mongering, constitution bending, demagoguery, culture wars, class wars, gender wars, orientation wars, trickle-down economics, nation building, unilateralism, must I continue.

Hopefully, if Obama is victorious, there will be a monumental shift in politics as a whole. We should be able to agree to disagree without spewing hate and fear upon one another.

By Stoned Mountain

November 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

If Obama takes Georgia, and Saxby Shameless goes down, it may be the end of Republican Georgia.

By An unsatisfied customer

November 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Dec.7th, 1941 9/11 November 4th, 2008

All dates that will live in infamy. Althought the U.S. recovered from the first two, i think the final nail in the coffin has occurred. Welcome to the new Socialist States of America.

By The Snark

November 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

The Reagan Era was premised on the Republicans’ slogan that “government was the problem.” We got 28 years of governance by people who, because they had no interest in governing or respect for it, never bothered to acquire the skills. 28 years of candidates who got themselves elected not because they had any knowledge or ability, but because they “shared your values.” The party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt gave us know-nothings like Tom Delay and Sarah Palin. Dang right the “era is over.”

Let’s just hope that what comes next is better.

By AF

November 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Susan - well said!!!!

Huckleberry: “Upper income people may a MUCH greater share of the total tax burden now vs. the Reagan years. As a matter of fact, those people pay a greater share of the total today vs. when President Bush took office.”

Well, Huckeberry, that is because 66% of income growth since 2000 has gone to the top 10%.

By ByteMe

November 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Yes, it is just like watching a wounded wildebeast roar just before it dies from its wounds.

BWAAAA…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

And AC/DC: The news organizations refuse to release exit polls for each state BEFORE the polls close, so whatever “exit polls” you’re claiming to have are likely crap.

By Tigerfan_in_GA

November 4, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

By Ellis St. John

November 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

The end of divisiveness, cronyism, faux conservatism, war-mongering, constitution bending, demagoguery, culture wars, class wars, gender wars, orientation wars, trickle-down economics, nation building, unilateralism, must I continue.

Hopefully, if Obama is victorious, there will be a monumental shift in politics as a whole. We should be able to agree to disagree without spewing hate and fear upon one another. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You mean the way Obama booted the newspaper reporters that endorsed McCain from his airplane or the way he had his people immediately dig up info on Joe the Plumber to discredit him?

By Mike K.

November 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

The end of the Reagan era was January 20, 1989. Hopefully, the era of this sorry crop of post-Reagan Republicans will end with this election. Dole, Bush 43, any of the recent house or senate GOP leadership, good riddance.

After a couple of years of “Change We Can Believe In” we’ll be set up for REAL conservative leadership.

Hopefully, the country won’t be bankrupt — yet (see 2009 deficit: $1 trillion plus).

Folks, we connot continue to spend the way we are spending. Why don’t voters wake up and realize it?

By Soixante huitard

November 4, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Patriot: You are full of it, Bookman. You know very little about conservatism, since you are blinded by your socialist/liberal views. You wish conservatism would go away, but there are still a great many of us who don’t intend to let that happen.

Spoken like a true rump GOP troglodyte.

You’re being routed, man, as the whole world watches.

By JR

November 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

Ellis St. John, You and yours have your heads in the sand if you think Obama is going to bring peace and tranquility to the political scene. The Republicans will be bashing Obama with the same vigor the Democrats bashed Bush.

By IC Atlanta

November 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

Blumenthal is a joke. Reaganism ended when around 1998 and particularly around 2001 when Bush got to office. Yes their were the tax cuts and strong on defense, but outside a few Supreme Court Justices Bush and Repubs governed like Democrats. That is why they lost big in 2006 and will lose again tonight.

Time for the conservatives to take back over the party or move on to form our own.

Reaganism is not dead - poor leadership is.

Look for Bobby Jindhal to be the next great hope for conservatives.

By I'm Your Huckleberry

November 4, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

To: FOX/GOP Management November 4, 2008 4:43 PM

The USA has freed more people from tyranny than any other country. The elitists hate this and prefer to use the military to extricate people who can’t see their way clear to get out of the path of an oncoming hurricane with 14 days advance notice. Simply put, some people need killing and we do it efficiently and safeguard innocent life as much as possible. Using your logic, we should’ve let Hitler, Mussolini, etc. remain in power in order to prove we are pro-life. That makes no sense.

But while we’re on the subject of pro-life, the Leftist policies of Democrats produced 45 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. A graveyard of 4 ft. caskets (for each of the unborn) would be 100 miles long by 100 miles wide. God will not forgive this country for this one act alone. Surely if you’re concerned that the USA killed some number of thousands of innocents in Iraq, then shouldn’t you be concerned about several hundred times that number being killed here in our country? Most are killed for birth control purposes only. Oh, that’s right, you’re not pro-life except when it comes to stifling the military.

I share your concern about government spending. President Bush essentially bought off a liberal Congress—he let them spend anything they wanted in exchange for being allowed to prosecute the war in Iraq. But if you are genuinely concerned about government spending, then the Democrat party is not your friend. You should vote for conservatives—and all Republicans are not conservative.

Republicans aren’t searching for calamitous times to justify their existence, but the Democrats are hell bent on creating them by getting more people dependent on the largesse of the productive parts of our society. Without an electorate in dire straits, the Leftists find it difficult to sell their wares. What about the black lady who famously said on You Tube that she will no longer have to pay for her mortgage or buy her own gasoline? That person is the prototypical Democrat voter. Here’s the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gFG4Crr8

With Obama, we’ll get the economic policy of Jimmy Carter, the foreign policy of Neville Chamberlain, and the social policies of Barney Frank. True, he’ll be wearing an Armani suit and be speaking eloquently from the omnipresent TelePrompTer, but that’s of little consolation to a hobbled, has-been, once-was super power on its sure path to ruin. Israel, Babylon, Rome, and others fell. We are headed there full steam ahead.

When we arrive, bashing Republicans or President Bush will likely provide little consolation. But congratulations on your Pyrrhic victory.

Signed,

An illiterate, fear-mongering, hate-mongering Conservative American who panders to illiteracy.

By "The Corporal"

November 4, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Dark days ahead …………….

By Soixante huitard

November 4, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Blumenthal’s piece is probably the best post-mortem I’ve yet on the republicans.

He’s especially scathing on some of McCain’s desparate tactics, for example, the infamous “Joe the Plumber” episode:

McCain desperately elevated Joe the Plumber as the voice of the people against Obama’s “socialism”. Joe was a ghost of Republican campaigns past, the stalwart member of Nixon’s “silent majority”, the “Reagan Democrat”. But the symbol was an atavism; the reality was a guy on the make seeking to own a business and avoid taxes.

Is this the kind of guy the Republicans are setting their hopes on?

By AmVet

November 4, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Reagan was an actor.

And a damned fine one.

He got a sizable portion of the American people to believe his “limited” government nonsense, all the while he was exploding the size, scope, cost and interference of that very government.

Maroons….

Even on these blogs, this has been an eye opening day, to be sure. The “agents of intolerance” as Senator McCain so accurately called them, are postiviely foaming at the mouth and preparing for the “end days” and their rapture.

While the rest of us immoral “heathens” hope they don’t go away mad, but just go away…

By I'm confused...

November 4, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Why…would you have a 4ft casket for a fetus? Or, are you just making up random number to create a meaningless but supposedly effective emotional plea?

Yeah, I’m thinking that’s the ticket.

And…I’m just curious here…I wonder how many of those abortions were performed on self-proclaimed Christians or Republicans? Or, does that not have any meaning in your blatantly falacious attempt to “Blame the Democrats” for abortion…and everything else?

Yeah…that’s the ticket, yet again.

Why be rational when you can make unsubstantiated, emotional pleas, invoke the name of Hitler and Chamberlin, and all the rest of the utterly laughable garbage that you’ve puked out from your keyboard, right?

Your desperation and fear are palpable…how we will laugh at you tomorrow when the Democrats have wiped the floor with Republican fear-mongers and Religious Fundies…and none of the dire prophecies made by neoliberal wanks and eschatologically obsessed kooks have come true.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

By ByteMe November 4, 2008 5:07 PM And AC/DC: The news organizations refuse to release exit polls for each state BEFORE the polls close, so whatever “exit polls” you’re claiming to have are likely crap.

Rasmussen.

~~~~~

Boy, all you liberals are awfully angry considering the slim possibility that you have an upcoming coronation.

It must really suck to be you, huh, you have to personally attack people on a second rate blog to bring any excitement to your pitiful, meaningless lives.

I almost hope you come to power so that all of America can witness what bitter, vindictive and angry little people you really are.

Almost.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Oh, and by the way, ByteMe, exit polls are normally skewed wrong by about 10 points in favor of the democrats.

So if what Rasmussen says is true, McCain has a comfortable lead in the states Oblahma has to win.

By Scholar

November 4, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management,

“It must really suck to be you, huh, you have to personally attack people on a second rate blog to bring any excitement to your pitiful, meaningless lives.

I almost hope you come to power so that all of America can witness what bitter, vindictive and angry little people you really are.”

You must have been looking in the mirror when you wrote that.

By I'm Your Huckleberry

November 4, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Leftists never avoid an opportunity to take a swipe at God. They may use terms such as “Religious Fundies”, but in doing so they really are rejecting the Sovereign God.

You can reject a particular political party and receive only the gift of a declining country as your reward.

But when you reject the Almighty, your punishment is eternal. And you’ll be dead a lot longer than you are alive.

By criticizing the illustration of the magnitude of aborted children in this country, you hoped to avoid directly discussing an unpleasant subject. I do not know how many of the children killed were Republicans—it’s a child—why should the mother’s political affiliation matter? What a maudlin consideration. I’ve never heard a Democrat politican refer to abortion as a tragic—or even undesirable—thing. I can’t understand that.

A political party who does not care for those who cannot care for themselves will not care for you.

God erased my fears. How about you?

By Soixante huitard

November 4, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

You’re wrong, Huckleberry. Leftists never avoid an opportunity to take a swipe at God.

I am a leftist and I am very far from taking a swipe at God (and as proof I would refer you to Corporal’s and my exchange of the last day or so).

By Reid in EAV

November 4, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

I guess since you’re a partisan you can spin it any way you like, but to me this isn’t at all a referendum on Reagan’s ideas — it’s a referendum on a party that seems to have forgotten them. People forget that though Reagan left a legacy of deficits, he cut programs and non-defense spending, and according to the OMB and CBO, his tax cuts actually did result in increased revenue. (As for the deficits, I think he compromised too much with Tip O’Neill, but the Democrats had a stranglehold on both houses of Congress at the time, and that was the way business got done.)

By contrast, we’ve given the GOP the “keys to the kingdom” for the past four years, with control of the House, Senate and White House, and in return have gotten runaway spending, no action on entitlement programs that threaten to swallow us whole, and not a single sunsetting government program or department. That, along with an ill-advised Wilsonian-liberal (nation building) war, prosecuted with less than stellar competence until recently AND an executive branch hellbent on expanding its imperial power.

Apparently, since tough choices like spending cuts cost political capital, it’s just easier to propose tax cuts as the answer for everything, forgetting that the Laffer curve has a downslope — tax cuts DO cut revenue if you keep on cutting… which would be no problem if government was shrinking, but it’s not.

So the answer may freak you out, Jay, but the reason the GOP is in trouble is that they’re not conservative ENOUGH. And that’s why I cast my vote for Libertarians today. And I know I’m not the only one. When the conservatives turn into statists, libertarian GOPers turn elsewhere.

By Paul

November 4, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

newrandyt 4:38

[[Right now, I am in the loneliest group of all…a single, fairly high earning male…too high an income to benefit from Obama’s “redistribution of wealth” plans, and too poor to benefit from the Republican “rich man, trickle down economics”.. Basically I am hosed no matter who wins.]]

Faith is found in one word: Nader.

ByteMe 4:50

Possibly it’s because, regardless of the Democratic Congress’s historically abysmal approval, people are even more distressed over the economic situation and the perception of the past eight years, so they’re willing to roll the dice and give the Dems a clean chance.

Let’s see where those approval ratings are in a year, shall we?

Mrs. Godzilla

Got my bottle of sparkling Italian - and seeing it doesn’t cork well, I don’t intend to waste a drop! I shall toast you whilst you’re celebrating in the park.

Huckleberry 5:22

[[The USA has freed more people from tyranny than any other country. The elitists hate this ]]

Is ‘elitist’ now another code word for ‘Democrat?”

Well, let’s see how the Rush talking point pans out -

People ‘freed’ in WWI: President Woodrow Wilson, Democrat (altho he was dragged into WWI kicking and screaming)

People ‘freed’ in WWII: President Roosevelt, Democrat (altho ‘elitist’ could apply to him)

People ‘freed’ in Korea: Presidentg Harry Truman, Democrat.

People ‘freed’ in Vietnam: let’s not go there.

People ‘freed’ in Iraq: President George Bush, Republican. To be fair, given the criteria Sen Obama laid down in the third debate, given conditions in Iraq (humanitarian disaster), if Pres Bush would not have invaded, a President Obama would. Add to that the ‘humanitarian invasions” VP Biden has planned….

And those Democratic Elitists seem more than willing to use the military to free people from tyranny.

Is that what Rush meant?

:-)

Management 5:42

But now, wverything’s going to ‘change’ and even Spkr Pelosi is going to embrace a new nirvana of bipartisanship, remember?

Hope you weren’t drinking anything - it would have come up your nose, reading that!

By getalife

November 4, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Okay all you political junkies, this long, filth ridden campaign is over and the first polls have closed.

I think we can all celebrate the end of w and stop bashing the old dead actor.

I am calling this one early for our next President.

President Obama.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 4, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

PAUL

Are you REALLY going?

In person?

By fedupingwinnett

November 4, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

As some have noted on this blog Congress has a 9% approval rating. Some people on this blog think this is incorrect because people voting for the Democrats. What you apparently don’t realize that another poll was conducted and most Americans (who get their news from MTV, ET, etc) think that the Republicans control Congress. That’s what is wrong with voting Americans. They are too lazy to research for themselves they belive what the media and what their friends (who didn’t do any research either) tell them. We are going to be in serious trouble if Obama wins and the Dems also win Congress. The America we once knew and loved is over. I guess on the flip side of that illegal immigration won’t be a problem as there will be a mad dash to get out of here.

By Paul

November 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla 6:06

I’d love to, but alas, the trip would be long and I’d arrive after the closing.

But toast you I shall.

By AF

November 4, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Huckleberry: “President Bush essentially bought off a liberal Congress—he let them spend anything they wanted in exchange for being allowed to prosecute the war in Iraq.”

And, the years before, when it was a Republican conservative Congress? I think it is the same answer: “he let them spend anything they wanted”. But that time he let them do it because they were deregulating businesses of his friends, creating tax policy that shifted 66% of the income growth in the country to his friends, and gave more tax breaks to his friends.

And while he was getting his friends super rich, he was piling up 1/2 trillion in national debt that your children and mine will have to pay for.

Huckleberry, all you sweet talking tax cutters have deceived the American people long enough. Bush didn’t ask for sacrifice from the American public when he went to war, he told them to go shopping. And, we all bought it. Well, while we have been living high on the hog, we are consigning our children to pigs feet. The bill will come due.

Vote Republican? Vote “conservative”? THEY are the ones who have wrecked the economy. I don’t think so.

By Ray

November 4, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

Why is it that Rove is the anti-christ to Bookman when Rove is a Repub political advisor but some kind of political expert when he predicts an Obama win? Get your finger out of the air, Bookman….. you are as bad a Hillary only not as good lookin’.

By TW

November 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

What you apparently don’t realize that another poll was conducted and most Americans (who get their news from MTV, ET, etc) think that the Republicans control Congress.

fedupingwinnett@6:13 - I would sooner rest the future of our country in their hands than in those belonging to the 28% who still approve of ‘w’…or the 51% that re-elected him.

Make no mistake about it, the majority of today’s GOP thinks fish cause the tides, that low-tide is when everybody is using their water. After all, it’s the GOP that declared war on science…

Fool us thrice?

Nope. Adios Sister Sarah. Adios McSame.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

“Early exit poll:Georgians oppose financial bailout.”

Duh, you got that one right.

By Mrs.Godzilla

November 4, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

I was going to suggest a place for a great Italian Beef.

Whaddya’ think?

The feeling reminds me of the girlies first recitals.

I’ll offer my toast to you now. I’m saving the first one for my spring Grandbaby-to-be .

To Paul: I suspect that folks like you and me could work together. In fact, I HOPE they can. Start with the middle.

Let’s all take a deep breath……

Have some dinner.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Blow out in Kentucky for McCain.

Obama winning Indiana.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: If you liked the first one, you’ll just love the second one-

Pelosi Vows to Push Forward With Second Economic Stimulus

Come on man, get with the program, you voted for these people.

By Paul

November 4, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

I will take a rain check. I know you are the kind who offers only if you mean it.

I do appreciate the toast. I’m just finishing up some work, savoring the exhilarating feeling that comes quadannually with this great experiment with democracy, listening to Abba. Doesn’t get any better.

An appropriate first toast. Second is great. I, too, have one coming in January. To the son whose entire large intestine was removed two months back. I’m grateful to have him still.

And, I do KNOW we could work together. We already do. I’m not sure the country’s quite ready for what we would bring, though.

Pity. Their loss.

Dinner beckons.

Salute!

By @@

November 4, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

My gawd, jay! Sidney Blumenthal?

The same BloomItAll that served as a key organiser and supporter of the Third Way conferences creating a “movement” of the progressive kind that would govern throughout the world?

One of its goals was to protect the modern welfare state through reforms that maintain economic integrity.

There’s no economic integrity in welfare. Just ask those whose subsistence on it is meager.

I’ve noticed that in your last “throw ‘em ups” for public discussion, your thoughts are not your own, but rather those of others.

‘Tis a bad sign to let your creative juices get squeezed like that.

You are, however, a liberal so relinquishing journalistic integrity was all too predictable.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Andy,

The first one was a few hundred dollar check to the people. The second one was trillions trickle up socialism for Paulson’s friends.

The second one is an outrage and Ga. agrees.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: I’m talking about the third one-

Oct 27th-The size of the package is fluid—somewhere in the range of $150 billion to upwards of $300 billion—but aides to Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a leading proponent, are quick to say it most likely will be on the lower end. “The need for this package is undeniable,” Pelosi argues, noting that nearly 800,000 jobs have been lost this year, with 159,000 in September alone.

By @@

November 4, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

By Paul: Faith is found in one word: Nader.

I’ve always wondered if Paul was AmVet.

You, guy(s) need to quit talking among yourself. (ISH)

By AmVet

November 4, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

getalife, I agree.

Today the American people throw the socialists and income redistributionists in the GOP out of power.

And replace them with…………………………………………..wait for it………………………………………….Democratic socialists.

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Today’s Election Day and Sen. Obama still leads in national polling. The question: What more does Obama have to do to prove he’s unfit for the presidency? Have extensive ties with terrorists? Check. Proclaim America’s founding document to be “fundamentally flawed”? Check. Threaten to bankrupt an industry that provides half this country’s juice? Check. Promise to weaken America’s military, empower the United Nations, boost the standing of the world’s tyrants. Check, check, check. Push an economic plan ripped from the pages of Karl Marx? Check. Denounce self-interest — i.e., the lifeblood of a market economy — as “selfishness”? Check. Have a late-game revelation about an aunt who’s an illegal alien enjoying public assistance, ignoring deportation orders, and making illegal campaign contributions to Obama? Check, check, and check—Laura Ingraham.

getalife,

Surely you’re not gleaning anything from these first few numbers being released. Are you impressed that Obama is up 67% to 33% right now in Maine? The raw vote total is 2 votes for Obama and one vote for McCain.

By BDAtlanta

November 4, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Republicans/Shmublicans, Can we get on with the wealth redistribution already? Jeez

By getalife

November 4, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Wow, Obama is coming back in Ky.

McConnell is in trouble.

By hillbilly ragger

November 4, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

I wonder if I should stick around here and watch the Luckotroooooooool melt down?

Nah, I got a life. (and kid). Later, gators.

By BDAtlanta

November 4, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

2 hours till Sean Hannity blows a gasket on national TV.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

Well, so much for “calling this before dinner.”

One lie out of the way.

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

getalife,

So much for your Obama comeback in Kentucky.

By AmVet

November 4, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

I’ve always wondered if Paul was AmVet.

Just one of your numerous bizarre ideas, my dear! (Like I don’t have any!)

Alas, as long as I have breath in my body I will never stop trying to advance the idea that third parties, as championed by Ralph Nader, will ultimately save this great nation from the Democrats AND Republicans.

And I think Paul would agree with me, in spite of what has gone on in the past, I still dig ya.

Listening top some righteous Dan Fogelberg - Is this what Democracy Means?

By Paul

November 4, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

@@ 6:54

The poor, dispirited new blogger was lamenting that he was hosed no matter which party he aligned with.

I followed my usual dictum: when faced with two unpalatable choices…

Find a third!

He was much too young to be disillusioned by our political system.

Cynicism is earned, with age and experience.

I could not be AmVet. Nor he I. Never has a case of schizto so profound ever been diagnosed!

I shall salute you tonight, also, Stratfor provider!

By getalife

November 4, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

CNN called Kentucky for McCain and Vermont for Obama. Warner wins Senate.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

RW,

I am surprised he came back.

Your gop majority leader is in trouble.

By Paul

November 4, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

AmVet 7:05

[[And I think Paul would agree with me,]]

Most definitely.

[[Listening top some righteous Dan Fogelberg - Is this what Democracy Means?]]

Again, most definitely.

[[Alas, as long as I have breath in my body I will never stop trying to advance the idea that third parties, as championed by Ralph Nader, will ultimately save this great nation from the Democrats AND Republicans.]]

Did you, also, watch Underdog on Saturday mornings? Can be the only explanation.

RW-(the original)

Welcome back. Something tells me the next four years will be quite lively on this blog -

By BDAtlanta

November 4, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Fox news just called the election: For George W. Bush….4 more years, people.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

Despite the possibility of Barack Obama becoming the nation’s first black president, the turnout of black voters as a percentage of the national vote was at 13 percent, just slightly higher than in 2004, according to early exit polls.-ABC

Lie number two put to rest.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Up top^^-

Early exit poll: McCain 50%, Obama 48%, Barr 2%-Urinal

Exit poll for what, AJC?

Georgia? The nation?

By T

November 4, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

It says Ga. sweetness.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

McCain starts out well early as Grant Park starts to fill.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

Thank you.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

Now that’s service.

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Hello Paul,

I’ve been here most of Happy Hour, but as soon as I would read through a thread Jay B threw another one up. I left some information for Bosch on the polling place thread and then saw how far behind I was so I skipped ahead.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

T: Look at what I cut and paste.

Do you honestly believe I would erase “Ga” and then whine about it?

Get a grip man.

By Paul

November 4, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

BDAtlanta 7:15

Carl Hiasson wrote a great novel, “Sick Puppy.”

Your 7:15 - did he know you?

:-)

Hey RW-(the original)

Haven’t seen Bosch for a while now. I believe he has new responsibilities. Just heard Chris Mathews on MSNBC say Obama is remaking the Democratic Party in his image… regardless of Congressional leaders.

I just mixed myself an Old Fashioned. I think Mathews must’ve had a couple…

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

PMSNBC took their little Georgia icon down from the “hot states list.”

It’s a blowout.

Lie #3 bites the dust.

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Didn’t PMSNBC declare Obama the winner before the polls opened this morning.

Bosch was there talking about being worried about his elderly father having to wait in a long line, but in Georgia if someone is 75 or older and they come to the polls between 9:30 and 4:30 they don’t have to wait, they go right to the head of the line.

South Carolina just went to McCain. Even if this goes as the “experts” say he can look back and know he once had a 21-3 electoral vote edge.

By BDAtlanta

November 4, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Paul, Never read Hiassen. Reading Junot Diaz’ “The Brief Wondrous life of Oscar Wao”. This is the best book I’ve read in years.

If Big O gets North Carolicki tonight is in the bag.

By @@

November 4, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Paul and AmVet (2 political pundits):

Yeah…..yeah…..yeah!!!!!

I’m having “deep thoughts” at @@’s election central — four words…..

Get out da boat. (ISH)

By Paul

November 4, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

BDAtlanta

Carl Hiasson is a columnist with the Miami paper. Also a novelist. Hilarious. He wrote the book “Striptease” which was made into the movie with Demi Moore.

He writes a lot about corruption and gov’t and good old boys. I’m convinced much of his inspiration comes from material he’s dug up that he can’t use in his columns for one reason or another - so he uses it in his book!

Thanks for the recommendation - always on the lookout for a good read.

RW-(the original)

Well, if this night turns out as many expect, Sen McCain can walk away with his head held high.

Never used the Wright thing. Set a standard. He, and I will say, Obama, conducted this campaign with honor.

It’s a start.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

O.K. check this out, Real Clear is calling South Carolina for Oblahma, PMSNBC is calling it for McCain.

??????

By BDAtlanta

November 4, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

PA goes to Big O!!!!!!!!!

By getalife

November 4, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Obama wins Pa., Tweety says it is over.

They will call this one at 8:00.

By T

November 4, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

Sorry, thought you were doing some early drinking.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

Dole is history.

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

McConnell wins in Kentucky.

Another great prediction, getalife. And I don’t think anybody but PMSNBC has PA already in the Obama column. Ordinarily I would say a news organization would be a tad leery of losing what credibility they think they have, but not them.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

RW,

NBC just said it too.

Rockefeller and McConnell win so there are two gop votes in the Senate.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

Pa hasn’t even reported any votes yet, haha.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Not much of a throw the bums out so far in Congress.

By David

November 4, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

What is the deal with Florida and their crazy ballots? You’d think after so many screwy elections, they’d get it right.

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

getalife,

PMSNBC and NBC are using the same decision desk. ABC is out on the limb with them, but SeeBS, CNN and FOX are waiting to see if votes match exit polls. So far they’ve had exit polls in some precincts in various states that overstated Obama’s count by as much as 11%.

By BDAtlanta

November 4, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

MSNBC just said Dole lost in NC. Good to hear.

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

OK the rest of them have given PA to Obama.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

RW,

The Clintons won PA for Obama. Florida too. Karma.

GA goes McCain so Saxby will be back.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

RW,

The Clintons won PA for Obama. Florida too. Karma.

GA goes McCain so Saxby will be back.

CNN did not call it for McConnell.

Where did you get that RW?

By TW

November 4, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

PA? But it’s only 8:30…snore…

By Lord Help Us

November 4, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Obama wins PA. GAME OVER!!!

Just in time for Dinner!!

Good Night, Wingnuts!

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the AJC/DNC Urinal for getting the vote out in Georgia.

The Repug vote.

bwa

By TW

November 4, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

Does this mean Joe The Plumber won’t be Secretary of the Treasury?

By RW-(the original)

November 4, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Rockefeller is Dem.

Saxby holds GA with no runoff.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

By the way it’s going to be a 15 to 20 point win in Ga, McCain was up by 4 in the final poll.

Same thing is trending true in Virginia, Oblahma was up by 4.4 in the final poll but McCain is holding steady at 62%.

All these states being projected to Oblahma based on the exit polls.

But yet McCain leads the popular voting.

Hmmmmmm.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

Look at the Florida Oblahma lead shrink.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

He votes with the gop and led on FISA and all spy programs.

He steals freedom.

Failed American in my opinion.

By AmVet

November 4, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Wow.

Things are getting real ugly at Wooten’s.

Tonight, the insane are going mad!

By T

November 4, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Remember the last election. You have to wait.

Damnitjanet, Saxby again. Oh, good.

By getalife

November 4, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Here comes the big one at 8:00.

Call it for Obama.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 4, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

It’s already 9:02, al-Gitmo, plus there is another thread up.

By T

November 4, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Ga. going to McCain.

We are still red.

Still proud of you, Ga.

Thanks for voting, everyone.

By BDAtlanta

November 4, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

The fat lady is clearing her throat.