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Getting a Handel on long voting lines

A friend of mine just called — he and his wife spent five and a half hours waiting to vote on North Roswell Road.

Yesterday, my wife spent four hours waiting at the Fulton County Courthouse. I’m just hoping that all this makes it easier when I try to vote Tuesday.

Down in Florida, long lines earlier in the week shrank considerably after Gov. Charlie Crist ordered longer polling hours and weekend voting. He took some heat from fellow Republicans for doing so, under the theory that allowing more votes is better for Democrats. But he did the right thing. In North Carolina, the Board of Elections also voted Thursday to give local counties the option of staying open longer to ease the crunch, and many are doing so.

Not here in Georgia. Secretary of State Karen Handel refuses to try to extend voting hours, claiming in part that her hands are bound by Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which requires federal pre-approval of changes in voting procedure. However, that didn’t seem to be a problem in North Carolina, where 40 counties are also bound under Section 5.

Handel also lost an important and embarrassing case this week in the Georgia Supreme Court. Two judges had already ruled that Handel was wrong to try to bar Jim Powell, a Democrat, from running for the Public Service Commission. Both judges had ruled that Powell easily met state residency requirements, but Handel insisted on appealing those rulings even after the ballots had been sent out and early voting had begun.

After I wrote a column taking Powell’s side and urging Handel to accept the lower courts’ decisions, she wrote a scorching letter to the editor. My column “raises the bar for illogical and absurd analysis,” she wrote, claiming that I wanted her to “apply the law based on some policy or political goal rather than what the law actually says.”

No, I just wanted the law applied as the judges had seen it. I wanted the voters of Georgia, not Handel, to decide Powell’s fate.

On Thursday, the Supreme Court kept Powell on the ballot. Citing many of the same arguments that Handel had called “illogical and absurd,” the court ruled that it was Handel who misunderstood and misapplied the law.

Did I mention their ruling was unanimous?

I used to think a lot of Handel. Back in her days on the Fulton County Commission, she seemed a center of calm, sanity and independence in a crazy public body. I had hopes that if she advanced into state politics she would be a Republican I could support, much in the fashion of Johnny Isakson. In fact, the AJC editorial board endorsed her for secretary of state two years ago, with words that now seem ironic:

“Handel understands the greatest threat is not voter fraud, but voter indifference; she says one approach to changing that could be a motivational campaign that would make failing to vote as unacceptable as littering. She also emphasizes that voting is not a privilege, as some in her party contend, but a right.”

OK, so we we’re wrong.

Earlier this week, polling places around the metro area were reporting long delays because state election computers had crashed. Those computers are Handel’s responsibility, and she insisted that those crashes never happened. Reports to the contrary were consistent and widespread, however.

It’ll be interesting to see what if any effect these long lines and delays have on Handel’s political future. She has been surprisingly partisan as an elections officer, but a lot of those folks waiting in long lines are Republicans as well as Democrats.

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By SOUTHERN ATL

October 31, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

We are watching all REPUBLICANS….

When will her term be up? Karen Handel…we have you on our mind…and will not forget this!!

By GOPs got to go

October 31, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Thank God I mailed in my vote. The polls hours should be extended as long as they need to be. Not getting to vote, be it for McCain or Obama, due to long lines is not exceptable.

By NRB

October 31, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Jay, they’re talking about letting people vote over the weekend.

That way the deceased, illegal aliens, and Mickey Mouse can exercise their “right”. Yes they can!

Oh and this woman, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk

By realitycheck

October 31, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

I’m a White, Southern Baptist Republican. I just spent 5 hours 20 minutes standing in line at George Pierce Park in Gwinnett to vote for Barack Obama and to vote out Saxby Chambliss. The tipping point for me was the fear-mongering, negative campaigning from the GOP. Enough is enough. Throw the bums out!!!

By NRB

October 31, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Long lines and the government. Sounds about right. Cant wait for them to take over health care.

By getalife

October 31, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Trying to surpress the votes for the gop but a populist move by making it easy to vote like my home town of Las Vegas will help politicians careers.

Vegas should be the model for our democracy.

Yes, Vegas and Nevada is going blue.

By Taxpayer

October 31, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Jay,

Here are two possibilities with this Powell issue: 1) Handel just plain went off the deep end or 2) Her Masters told her what they expected her to do and she did it.

I tend to lean toward the second item as I do with Saxby and his attack on the guy from Imperial Sugar. They were both given their marching orders by those that they have sold their souls to. They are not leaders. They follow their masters around like well-trained little puppy dogs. They are both disgusting little people.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

Why don’t we start voting for the 2010 midterms this coming Wednesday?

Polls open 24/7.

Then you liberals can just have at it.

Who needs democracy?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Article 2 of the United States Constitution-

The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

Anyone else notice the liberals have no use for the Constitution?

By NRB

October 31, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Just remember though, it’s only “voter fraud” when the Republicans win.

Remember ‘06? The Dems had lawyers standing by to investigate fraud and watch over the process.

Then when the Dems ended up winning, the lawyers and any concern about “rigged elections” disappeared in a puff of smoke.

Since its been proven that thousands upon thousands of illegal voter registrations exist, the GOP is suddenly “suppressing votes”.

Um yes, if we have cases of Mickey Mouse and people who have been dead for 80 years, those votes DO need to be suppressed.

By FOX/GOP Management

October 31, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

I used to think highly of Handel myself until recently. If she is deliberating stifling the voting process for partisan reasons, then she ought to be reprimanded accordingly. It is unacceptable.

The reason fellow Repugs used to chastize Gov. Crist for his common-sense approach to ease the delays in FL speaks volumes for itself !

Karen, we will remembber this, both democrats and repugs!! It’s a matter time !!!

By northern suburb

October 31, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

I voted around 6:00 this evening.

Moved quickly and efficiently.

15 min. in and out.

By mike hussein smith

October 31, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Handel is a thug bureaucrat — a right-winger’s biggest nightmare.

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

1)the majority of voter fraud comes from mail in ballots, you know the ones the repugs didn’t seem to want to substantiate?

2)mickey mouse registered to vote — he can’t vote in ga. or fla wihout an i.d. nice try bringing it up as “voter fraud” though.

3)the only halfway decent repiglican was McCain — notice the “was”. ever since he was swiftboated in the 2000 election by his own party, (the infamous “black child” propaganda — anyone notice that no one has seen his adoptive daughter on the podium with him this time around?); since south carolina’s repiglican back stabbing, McCain has been dancing on the strings like a repiglican marrionette.

By Ray

October 31, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Article in the AJC today stating that police officers would be needed at polling places throughout the city during election day. Why? Are we to believe that we need police to monitor elections and to keep order? Are we not able to elect a president without civil disorder? If the Annointed One wins, we should expect some celebrations from the black community. If he loses, then should we expect civil disorder, burning and looting and expressing your displeasure at the result? Why is this not right?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

By FOX/GOP Management October 31, 2008 6:46 PM It’s a matter time !!!

Well welcome back, Spammie !!!

Where you been !!!

I see that you still have no originality judged by your new nickname !!!!

Moron !!!!!

By northern suburb

October 31, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

well,

you didn’t like the punch out ballots.

you don’t like the computer ballots.

what’s left?

snail mail or email?

By FOX/GOP Management

October 31, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

By AJC/DNC Management October 31, 2008 7:05 PM Cried childishly: I see that you still have no originality judged by your new nickname.Moron !!!!!

Are you the boy called Sue? Our nicknames are pretty close like “Shawn,” and “Sean.” Stop calling yourself a moron.

The F-word network/GOP Management

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

Wow. Now, like Georgia, Arizona is a toss up state according to Real Clear Politics.

Arizona.

By AF

October 31, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

Oh, pooh! I was all ready to think Handle was doing an okay job. Not perfect, but okay.

But, here she had a chance to help thousands of voters - Republican and Democrat - by extending voting hours and she doesn’t even try.

Well, having spent two and one-half hours in line to vote, I assure Ms. Handel that I will remember.

By Greg Mendel

October 31, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

I live in a very Republican county. Republican parents and their children are coming to my door every five minutes tonight — begging for handouts!

By Poll This

October 31, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

Can you just imagine thousands of voters, in counties all across the state, standing in line out in the cold waiting to vote at 7:00. All those people will know who to blame and Karen Handel’s name will be mud. The people v. Karen Handel in the matter of her being a partisan hack, etc.. She will not be able to show that disgraced face in the state. I hear Alaska may have an opening for a person of Karen’s caliber.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Democrat Primaries-

Kentucky Final RCP Poll Clinton 59%, actual voting Clinton 66%.

West Virginia Final RCP Poll Clinton 59%, actual voting Clinton 67%.

Pennslyvania Final RCP Poll Clinton 49%, actual voting Clinton 54%.

Ohio Final RCP Poll Clinton 50%, actual voting Clinton 54%.

Rhode Island Final RCP Poll Clinton 48%, actual voting Clinton 58%.

Texas Final RCP Poll Clinton 47.5%, actual voting Clinton 51%.

Arizona Final RCP Poll Clinton 42%, actual voting Clinton 51%.

California Final RCP Poll Clinton 42%, actual voting Clinton 51%.

And on and on and on I could go.

Every single solitary lib primary voters polled lower for Clinton but voted in much greater numbers for her.

They lied to the pollsters or called themselves “undecided.”

But once in the voting booth……….

McCain/ Palin!

By FOX/GOP Management

October 31, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Hahaaa !! AZ (McCain’s own home turf) now appears to be in play. Even GA is moving in that direction.

Looks like traditional Red States seem to get it.

Obama/Biden !!!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

By FOX/GOP Management October 31, 2008 7:52 PM Hahaaa !! AZ (McCain’s own home turf)

Notice how the dimwit Spammie !!! has to remind the other dimwit liberals what state McCain is from?

Morons !!!!

By Poll This

October 31, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

Hey,

This is entertaining.

By poll patrol

October 31, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

polls are like aholes

everyone has one

By FOX/GOP Management

October 31, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management October 31, 2008 7:57 PM Wrote to show his appreciation: Notice how the dimwit Spammie !!! has to remind the other dimwit liberals what state McCain is from?

Well, you are welcome. I am glad I was able to educate you. Stop hurling insults like “moron” at yourself !! Aren’t you in enough political pain already?

F-Word Network/GOP Management.

By Dumbazz/GOP Management

October 31, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

One thing is crystal clear now. GOP supporters don’t like paying taxes at all.

I suggest we stop asking them to pay taxes.

We will pull all fire dept support and police protection from their neighborhoods. We will take away their library cards. Next, we can determine where they eat out and we can pull all health department inspectors from those locations.

What else? Let’s see… Who pays for the vote workers? Is that paid for with tax dollars? They can’t vote anymore either I guess. (ohoh, I like this idea!)

Can anyone add to this list?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

Did I not tell you liberals were morons?

By Dumbazz/GOP Management October 31, 2008 8:11 PM We will pull all fire dept support and police protection from their neighborhoods. We will take away their library cards. Next, we can determine where they eat out and we can pull all health department inspectors from those locations.

I already pay for your fire department protection, turd blossom, and now you want me to give you some walking around money.

Go pound sand, wanker !!!!

By bdatlanta

October 31, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Someone made a joke last year when McCain was way behind in the primaries that he couldn’t afford gas. McCain was reduced to giving stump speeches at BP stations to get money to gas up the straight talk express.

Maybe he should try that again.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

But Jay, you are illogical and absurd.

I find it interesting we’ve been able to all vote on the same day for how many years, but somehow you’re whining about wait times now we’ve created “convenience” voting ahead of the Tuesday date. To the point you’re even writing articles critical of Handel because she’s not bowing at your feet and complying to your selfish wishes.

Maybe you’re just a selfish whiner.

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Dumbazz/GOP Management,

We can let them teach their own kids too. And build their own roads. They can’t drive on any of the roads currently built either.

And protect themselves against terrorists - they have plenty of guns so that shouldn’t be a problem.

And print their own money, manage their own banks, and if they lose their jobs, they can help each other out.

By Midori

October 31, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this

I just got home after standing in line over 3 hours.

My feet are killing me!!

By Poll This

October 31, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Quit playing with poles, poll patroll.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Did I not tell you liberals were morons?

By bdatlanta October 31, 2008 8:19 PM Someone made a joke last year when McCain was way behind in the primaries that he couldn’t afford gas.

Yep, and he won.

Morons !!!!

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Good evening Midori! Happy Halloween. I’m bummed, I haven’t had any trick or treaters and I guess I’ll have to eat all those Snickers and M&Ms I bought.

I took my son and one of his friends to vote today, it was their first time. They were so cute, they kept asking me questions about the machines. It made my heart a little bigger to see my boy standing there voting.

All the eligible Bosch voters have now voted. Next time, we’ll have another in the bunch to vote.

By OpenYourEyes

October 31, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

And on and on and on I could go.

And you do, and you do , and you do…..

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

I haven’t had any trick or treaters and I guess I’ll have to eat all those Snickers and M&Ms I bought.

LOL!! You better watch that sugar rush!!

By Midori

October 31, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

LOL, Debbie — I’ll just bet Bosch regrets having all those snicker bars :)

Bosch - I was amazed at how friendly and orderly the process was.

Chatted up quite a bit with everyone in line.

It really helped time pass.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Here’s a RINO that’s not real impressed with Oblahma:

“Every year in March I come here to organize the Arnold Classic, which is all about building the body and pumping,” Schwarzenegger said.

“And then we’re going to make him do some biceps curls to beef up those scrawny little arms. But if he could only do something about putting some meat on his ideas.

California in play?

By Clint

October 31, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

The beginning of the end of our long national nightmare draws near.

By TW

October 31, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

Yeah, California’s in play - they’re real happy out there with what Arny has done with the economy…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! My side! My side!…stop….HAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously, though - this is getting pretty pathetic.

God I miss the real Republicans.

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

Midori,

It went pretty smooth where we voted as well. My son and his friend were funny, they were very enthusiastic about talking out loud who they were voting for. I told them that wasn’t too kosher to do. We decided it would have been nice to have a band there - music, some snacks, you know, make it a real party!

There were just soooooo many people. It’s good to see people excited in an election again.

I live a block from my actual voting precinct. I really dread Tuesday - if the turnout trend equals that of the early voters, we’ll be gridlocked.

Debbie (and Midori too) -

We always buy candy that we like - I always hated old cheap farts who would give out the gross candy like candy corns (yuck).

I think Snickers are, by far, the most perfect food.

By FOX/GOP Management

October 31, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

The current Repug voters are saturated with mostly the uneducated, or school drop-outs at best. Specimen A — Sean Hannity and his followers. They have been brainwashed to consider education as “elitism” and therefore, easily fallen prey to the fear-mongering of the GOP.

These same idiots voted for GW Bush twice, and will still vote for him again if he qualified to run despite his abyssmal performance in office.

Voters gave the Repugs a chance in the White House, and they ran this country to the ground with massive deficits, corruption, endless expensive wars, a dismal economy, dwindling middle-class, outsourcing of jobs, huge tax breaks for corrupt companies, among others. How on earth these idiots continue to support the Repugs amazes me !!

F-Word Network/GOP Management

By getalife

October 31, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Check out the terrorist fist pound in the second picture

Good stuff.

By bdatlanta

October 31, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Wow. The AFL-CIO boss is attacking racism.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/thedailydish/2008/10/confronting-rac.html

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

How does a red state turn blue?

By bdatlanta

October 31, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this

Sorry to hear you folks had a long wait. I voted in Hall County so it took only 5 minutes. One of the benefits of living out in the boondocks.

Bosch, Yeah, I forgot about the roads. Also, they will have to set up their own courts too. No more clogging our courts with their petty copyright infringement suits, etc.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Dumbazz, If you aren’t capable of putting together a more meaningful post than that, do us all a favor and log off, pack your computer back in the box, and take it back to the store. You’re not smart enough to own one.

If you can find where ANYBODY has complained about paying taxes for necessary services, feel free to come back and join us. ANYBODY. Until you do, go away.

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Those were great pixs. Thanks for posting those. I like the first one with McCain as the grumpy old Simpson’s guy. Creepy how that’s such a true comparison.

By DebbieDoRight

October 31, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

Evening Midori / Bosch: Well the last of the trick or treaters in my area have left and since I’m out of candy that’s a good thing! I always buy candy that I don’t like, so I won’t eat it; since me and my sister-in-law live together I make her buy candy neither of us likes too; it’s the only way to save ourselves!! ‘Caue we’d eat up all the candy from the kids and make ourselves sick!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Get out the vote, the Repug vote:

Proposition 8 places into the California Constitution the same language that voters already passed by 61% of the vote in 2000. This is necessary to overturn an outrageous California Supreme Court decision that overturned Proposition 22.

Proposition 8 is simple and straightforward. It contains the same 14 words that were previously approved in 2000 by over 61% of California voters: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.”

Because four activist judges in San Francisco wrongly overturned the people’s vote, we need to pass this measure as a constitutional amendment to restore the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman.

Hehehehehehe, 55 electoral votes, hehehe.

Morons !!!

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

bdatlanta,

In regards to the court system, they will also need to provide their own prosecutors, but since they hate education so much, it’ll be hard to find any with a law degree.

Debbie,

Good candy plan. Just don’t give out candy corns - those, are by far, the most imperfect food! :-)

By Mike

October 31, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

“I used to think a lot of Handel.”

Anyone here want to guess how much Handel cares what a partisan hack like Bookman thinks of her?

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

No, wait a minute - carrot raisin salad, that is, by far, the most imperfect food.

That gives me the shivers just thinking about it.

By northern suburb

October 31, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

are there going to be anymore voters left to vote on Tue. in the blue districts?

By Soixante huitard

October 31, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Elections, piège à cons

By bdatlanta

October 31, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

Fox/Gop Mgmt:

Yeah, Hannity is in full-on panic mode. Funny to listen to his mish-mash of lies and fear mongering.

You know, the way Bush treated the Presidency in general, I’m surprised he and the Repubs in congress didn’t talk up changing the term limits rule.

RB from Gwinnett, You get an education and I won’t need to be on these boards schooling you.

By Midori

October 31, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

That’s just wrong Bosch - carrot raisin salad is da BOMB!! :)

Debbie - I too employ that strategy of buying candy I don’t like.

However, due to Handel’s lines, I didn’t need to buy candy this year - all the kids were gone by the time I got home.

Off to soak my feet.

Have a good evening, all.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

BD, I don’t recall you ever sharing a lucid thought with me. If you’d like to debate something other than your fantasy of actually measuring up, bring it on.

By OpenYourEyes

October 31, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

I don’t recall you ever sharing a lucid thought with me.

Because you’ve never had one.

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You know, even Mavericks disagree sometimes!

Bwa!!!

I hope your feet improve. When your feet are tired, it makes your whole body tired.

By Bosch

October 31, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

GHT,

Or they can just say 88 and 14!

By porky's

October 31, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this

GHT,

Were you THAT GUY in Deliverance that had to squeeeeel like a pig?

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

What’s with you pathetic liberals and your constant attacks on everybody who either doesn’t agree with you or doesn’t bow at your feet? You attempted to destroy Joe the Plumber for having the nerve to be standing in front of Obama when he revealed his socialist leanings and now you’re berating Karen Handel for what? Not keeping polls open as long as YOU want her to. What’s the matter with you people? Are your own lives so miserable you have to treat people like that to feel good about yourselves?

Dang, libs. Get a life!

By Just Logic

October 31, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

Let’s see, there have only been 45 days to vote early, absentee ballots availible, and on the last day John Lewis, Shirley Franklin and Bookman cry foul because the lines are too long! Give me a break! You have had more options and convenience afforded you this election than ever before and you libs are still going to b*** about something!

Godhates Trash, you really do show yourself for the RACIST that you really are. The rules that govern the election apply to whites and blacks!

By "The Corporal"

October 31, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

To AJC/DNC Management & RB from Gwinnett

Matthew 7:6

“Do not give to dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls before swine.”

By NRB

October 31, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

Just Logic, cut them some slack.

The DNC came across some blank voter registration cards last minute and had to find another phone book to get names from.

And Superman hasn’t voted yet, either.

These things take time, man.

By "The Corporal"

October 31, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

ZOGBY: MCCAIN MOVES INTO LEAD 48-47 IN ONE DAY POLLING

By AJC/DNC Management

October 31, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

My, oh my, isn’t God’s Trash awfully excited, been to the kkklan rally, sheila?

How many plumbers, anchorwomen, clergy and other commonfolk did y’all hang in effigy tonight?

Allah Akbar?

Morons !!!

By "The Corporal"

October 31, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

Hummmmm ……..

Fulton, Cobb, Clayton cops gear up for Election Day Unrest, rowdy celebrations possible Tuesday night

By CHRISTIAN BOONE The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Friday, October 31, 2008

Though they’d rather not discuss it, local law enforcement agencies are planning for possible civil unrest after Tuesday’s election.

“We have no intelligence indicating there will be problems,” said Fulton County Assistant Police Chief Gary Stiles. “Law enforcement must deal with ‘what ifs’ and worst-case scenarios” …………………………….. Similar preparations are underway across the country, fueled partly by Internet rumors and crystallized within recent comments by Democratic strategist James Carville on CNN.

“But you stop and contemplate this country if [Barack] Obama goes in and he has a consistent five point lead and loses the election, it would be very, very, very dramatic out there,” he said.

By NRB

October 31, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

The Demo-rats must hold onto the myth of the racist republican for several reasons.

They cannot logically or factually argue against capitalism, so they cry racism.

They cannot logically or factually argue against low taxes, so they cry racism.

They cannot logically or factually argue against fighting terrorism, so they cry racism.

They cannot logically or factually argue against small government, so they cry racism.

Most people wise up after too many episodes of “the libs that cried wolf”, thus negating the effects of the racism charge.

That’s why I’m content to just let them pound their fists and cry and moan about evil whitey. It’s highly entertaining, and best of all, self defeating.

By The Snark

October 31, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Karen Handel … Katherine Harris with a G.E.D. and less make-up.

By AJC/DNC and RW's Daddy

October 31, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this

Since the Conserva-turds are so scared, I’m expecting another run on underground bunkers, water tanks, Uzis, freeze-dried meals, etc. It’s Y2K all over again.

By T

October 31, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

I voted. Woooohooooooo. Only about 3 1/2 hours. Well, worth it. Now for a martini.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

Once again, dimwits. If Obama loses because racists won’t vote for him, it will be RACIST DEMOCRATS who make the difference, not Republicans. R’s aren’t going to vote for a socialist no matter what color he/she is. Look within, dems, look within.

Obama ‘08 - Hoping nobody notices how many racists there are in the Democratic party. And for big wad of rich guys cash.

By T

October 31, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett @ 10:25

That was racists. LOL. I’m just kiddin. Just go vote.

By Say What?

October 31, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Handel

I read your opposing view column in the AJC earlier this week. You first claimed that politics had nothing to do with your decision. But then you callously insinuated that if it was the Republicans who would stand to benefit by extending voting hours, the outcry would…well…you said you’d leave it to our imaginations.

Well, let me tell YOU what I imagine, Karen Handel: I imagine that politics were the ONLY consideration that you have processed in denying the extension of the voting hours - YOUR politics. If you can’t win fair and square, then cheat cheat cheat to win one for the home team. Like Katherine Harris in 2000. Probably your hero of heroes.

Good-bye Karen Handel. You’ve left your mark on the most important election of our times…the mark of party politics over the American privilege to vote. A mark that should shame you.

By Greg Mendel

October 31, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

Off Topic, sorry:

I came to this blog because I got sick of lefty blogs. Lefties hated me because I wasn’t “left” enough. Righties hated me because I believe in the Constitution.

I think of myself as a centerist. Problem is, the “center” has gone way right in the last decade. So, I’m left being a leftist, I guess.

I’m an old fart, a Vietnam veteran, a small business owner (a freelance writer, so the biz is me). I’m not likely to call an aromatherapist in an emergency.

I’ve read Jay’s columns for a long time. more often than not, I agree with his point of view. I don’t see his point of view as extreme. He’s pretty rational. Pretty moderate. Your mileage may differ.

But, I read the comments and wonder. Post after post, thread after thread, there seems nothing but knee-jerk name-calling. No discourse. No real thought. No empathy. In fact, no quarter asked, requested, or even considered.

In the endless foodfight we talk right past issues that matter to each of us.

All of us are affected in some way by the American way of health care. None of us are served very well by it, I don’t think. Instead of railing about “socialized medicine,” is it possible that thoughtful commenters — left and right and in the middle — could discuss that issue? Just that issue, and a solution? Without political baggage?

What are “our” problems — not the problems of the doctors, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies — just our problems. Coverage. Being able to know we or our kids or parents could get medical care without being financially broken.

To me, that’s a question that transcends politics, party lines. Forget politics. Lefties and righties get sick, suffer, go broke and die.

Is there some point at which we can stop arguing and start thinking?

By G

October 31, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Karen Handel and Katherine Harris are two of a kind, both arrogant b!tches.

If Florida and North Carolina could extend early voting, Georgia could as well.

Handel will run for Governor in 2010. If she’s elected, it’ll be because she cheated her way in.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By NRB

October 31, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Good post, Greg. But the solution isnt to raid my wallet that’s for sure. But that’s the only thing Democrats know how to do. Throw money at a problem. Always somebody elses’ money, though.

By Amelia

October 31, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

People who think socialism is the greatest evil since Hitler should really stick with quoting the Old “eye for an eye” Testament. Jesus said, “whatsoever you do unto the lowest among you, you do so unto me.” So it would seem that, yes, you are your brother’s keeper. That sounds like socialism to me, and I think someone owes Jesus an apology.

By Van

October 31, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this

NRB,

Are you willing to consider that throwing money at a problem is what was done with Iraq?

By getalife

October 31, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

Obama 364

Old man 174.

They will call this one early folks.

By "The Corporal"

October 31, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

To Mr. Mendel

Good luck sir. I’ve been trying to squelch the name calling vitriol for months. I’m afraid you’re wishing for the impossible. The mentality for civil debate is just not there.

As I have said before, as a student of the Civil War, I could never grasp how sentiments could have gotten so bad that Americans would actually quit talking and go to war against each other.

I’m beginning now to understand how that happened ………..

By Greg Mendel

October 31, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

“Good post, Greg. But the solution isnt to raid my wallet that’s for sure. But that’s the only thing Democrats know how to do. Throw money at a problem. Always somebody elses’ money, though.”

Your wallet and mine are already being raided, NRB. That’s my point. Let’s skip the politics of what “Democrats know how to do.” Republicans have been in power for several years, Democrats before them, but medical expenses keep rising.

I’m insured. I’m not on the dole. And the cost of health care is going up. My 24 year-old son has no medical insurance. We can’t add him to our policy, and the jobs he has had don’t offer coverage. He’s not a deadbeat. He works his butt off. And he can’t get health care coverage.

You don’t see anything wrong with that? Is that a matter unworthy of “bipartisan” discussion?

By Amelia

October 31, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

To Greg Mendel, that was a beautiful post and I couldn’t agree more. Polarization and extremism is going to tear this country apart. People forget, “united we stand, divided we fall.” And, remember that old song, “battle lines being drawn, nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong…” I’ve been thinking about that song a lot lately. I don’t know why it has to be this way but I have given up on it changing. It will be the destruction of our great experiment in democracy. Maybe that’s what happened to the Greek and Roman experiment in democracy.

By Greg Mendel

October 31, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Corporal:

I’ve studied the Civil War quite a bit, and you’re right. But, one hopes one actually learns something by studying (I’m re-reading “Guns of August” (by Barbara Tuchman at the moment).

Frankly — and simply — people talk to each other by…talking to each other. If the lot of us were faced with a common problem (which we are), we’d figure a way out. In fact, we would depend on each other. Health care is, I would say, a common problem.

By northern suburb

October 31, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

good grief.

pootang ght can’t decide it wants to wish away the bookman’s or the conservatives.

By Greg Mendel

October 31, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this

“pootang ght can’t decide it wants to wish away the bookman’s or the conservatives.”

Took the words right out of my Veg-a-matic.

By NRB

October 31, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this

Regarding health care, a high deductible health insurance is all a 24 year old needs.

Yes he’d have to pay out of pocket for any yearly physical exam, and for any potential medication, but he would be insured against a very expensive catastrophe.

Think about it like homeowners insurance. You don’t go calling up the insurance company every time a window breaks, or you need to replace a broken gutter. You call when the crap hits the fan. Same concept.

A 24 year old can afford high deductible health insurance as long as all his money isnt being spent on cell phone usage, satellite TV, and video games.

If that concept fails, then how about all you generous Democrats band together and form a liberal health insurance company. You can all pitch in your money, since you’re so generous and caring, and give out cheap health insurance to anyone who wants it…no pre screening required!

Let me know how long THAT lasts.

By Greg Mendel

October 31, 2008 11:46 PM | Link to this

Amelia:

Yes, that is what happened to Greek — Athenian, anyway — democracy. The Romans…well…there was lead in everything they drank.

By Greg Mendel

November 1, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this

NRB:

Thanks for your advice. You make it sound so simple, so affordable. Obviously you’ve never actually tried to get private insurance for a 24 year-old. I have.

Try this: Go to your nearest Rolls Royce dealership, and ask them to sell you a Phantom for $25,000. Demand it!

And when they won’t sell it to you for that price, carp about Democrats and deadbeats. That will help. Really. Be sure to tell them you are a Republican, not a Democrat. You’re not a deadbeat. They’ll listen. I assure you.

Seriously, NRB, you’d rather drag out your talking points than actually deal with a problem that both Democrats and Republicans face. Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Talking constructively about a common problem is beyond us, ain’t it.

By Amelia

November 1, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

Greg Mendel, Of course, Athenian. How silly of me. Greece was not a nation, just like Italy was not a nation. You’re a very intelligent man. How refreshing. Well, I’m off to bed, my faith in mankind somewhat restored.

By Greg Mendel

November 1, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

Amelia:

You were right in the first place. It’s generally referred to as “Greek democracy.”

Your faith is restored? By NRB, Midori, AC/DC, Bosch or me?

You restore mine a bit.

By It's a No McBrainer.

November 1, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this

Some two-thirds of the US economy is based on consumption. That’s…significant.

Over the last 25 years, more and more “wealth” has accreted upwards, into the pockets of those who have reached a functional limit of consumption. This wealth, rather than re-circulating into the consumer economy, is tied up in various investments – stocks, bonds, convertibles, derivatives, etc. The wealth generated by these investments tends to be re-invested in similar instruments, rather than “trickling down” as supply-side economic theory suggests. Now, the popular economic wisdom (recently called into question by Greenspan himself) suggests that this reinvestment will result in capital investment by corporations that leads to job creation that leads to middle-class CONSUMPTION income. This is not the case. Instead of being re-invested, this accretion of wealth has resulted in a cycle in which the returns from said investments are re-invested in similar instruments, creating a system in which money deposited at the top remains at the top, and engenders even more wealth (transfers) at the top, at the expense of the middle and the bottom. Slowly, over this period, the normal distribution curve has skewed dramatically to the right. Now, imagine the logical result of this pattern. If consumption is the primary driver of the economy – and it is – when the consumptive ability of the primary spending class – the middle class – is drained more and more – what do you think will happen to the US economy? What good, do you think, will be the economically-stagnant billions of the top 1% when the economy built upon the consumption of the masses falls apart, because those masses no longer have discretionary income to spend? What good will self-righteous and barely-informed protestations of “Socialist!” and “Communist!” do us then, when the basic foundation of our economy has been uprooted by the very greed that led the fairy-tale farmer to slaughter his golden egg-laying goose?

By RB from Gwinnett

November 1, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this

Amelia,

You are correct. United we stand, divided we fall. You are more than welcome to join conservatives in fending off the onslaught of socialism. Welcome to the fold.

By alan

November 1, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

Corporal— That Drudge guy is a publicity w*******. Check from Zogby’s website: http://www.zogby.com/main.htm

alan

By Greg Mendel

November 1, 2008 12:44 AM | Link to this

It’s a No McBrainer:

Pretty astute take, I’d say. No politics, just a hard-to-contradict scenario. A well-defined problem begging a solution.

By JR

November 1, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this

I’ve got a great idea. Since the Repug voters are saturated with mostly the uneducated, or school drop-outs why don’t we make it necessary to score above 100 on a IQ test before voting? Since no Democrat would be eliminated and 90% of the Repugs couldn’t pass it would be great for the country. Also, the repugs are so dumb they would probably go for it. Let work on it and get it to the DNC.

By Amelia

November 1, 2008 1:00 AM | Link to this

Greg: I was referring to you. That’s not to disparage the others you mentioned. It’s just that I find few people are interested in history, even less so if it’s not American history. I’m certainly not an expert but I know enough to see we keep doing the same things and making the same mistakes. If people knew a little more about history they could make better decisions. How can you know where you’re going if you don’t know where you’ve been? History is our road map to the future. I know that sounds sappy but what can I say? I guess I’m a sap. :)

By Greg Mendel

November 1, 2008 1:35 AM | Link to this

Sorry, Amelia. I have insomnia.

As you know, history repeats itself. There’s already a historical scenario. It’s just forgotten within 40 years. But it’s a loop. It just keeps repeating, because, well, it’s forgotten every 40 years. Or 20.

You’re quite right. You can see where we’re going, if you know where we’ve been. The same mistakes are made. For some reason, the same advances don’t seem to be made.

By Man with a Brain

November 1, 2008 3:34 AM | Link to this

Just a year or two every voter could cast their vote in one day. No reason in the world for anyone to think that they will not be able to do so one next Tuesday. Stop all this whining about extra hours and such. Man up and realize that Tuesday the lines will be short and quick. That is unless people are actually voting more than once. America, a nation of whiners and crybabies who have nothing better to do than moan and cry.

By Man with a Brain

November 1, 2008 3:35 AM | Link to this

Just a year or two ago, every voter could cast their vote in one day. No reason in the world for anyone to think that they will not be able to do so on next Tuesday. Stop all this whining about extra hours and such. Man up and realize that Tuesday the lines will be short and quick. That is unless people are actually voting more than once. America, a nation of whiners and crybabies who have nothing better to do than moan and cry.

By ron

November 1, 2008 4:58 AM | Link to this

Some time back I told Jim Wooten that there was too much smoke in the Handel case not to have been caused by some fire.It appears that an inferno has been discovered under the haze.Georgia is a good Republican state though, and Ms. Handel’s future is probably secure.

By AJC/DNC Management

November 1, 2008 6:12 AM | Link to this

“All right guys, that’s enough,” said Obama, wearing a casual outfit and sunglasses in the early evening.

“You got a shot,” he told the photographers. “Leave us alone. Come on, guys.”

Obama then crossed the street with Sasha. At least one video cameraman who was not part of Obama’s traveling press corps followed him for a while. Obama grew visibly irritated.

He and his daughter then began jogging, and even running, to get away from the media.

This, my friends, is the perfect example of what an Oblahma presidency would be like, hahahaha.

Just replace photographers with liberal democrat congressmen, “alright, guys, you got enough,” followed by Oblahma running away in fear of his life.

Hahaha.

This game even works with the word “terrorists.”

Or “Chinese army.”

I pray for you America.

~~~~~

By getalife October 31, 2008 11:01 PM Obama 364 Old man 174. They will call this one early folks.

al-Gitmo: A few days from now when the koolaid bender wears off, you will suddenly realize how silly it was to sit staring at CNN’s electoral map for hours on end.

Rearranging the tea party china, are we?

By ITJH

November 1, 2008 6:30 AM | Link to this

ALL THOSE UNPRODUCTIVE HOURS STANDING IN A LINE TO VOTE WHEN ALL THAT WAS NEEDED WAS AN ABSENTEE BALLOT! BUT THAT IS HOW OUR COUNTRY IS - SOME STAND AROUND PI$$ING AND MOANING ABOUT A PROCESS WHILE THE OTHERS USE THEIR HEAD AND CONTINUE TO PRODUCE.

By Reality

November 1, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

So now I hear the working family income level for no increased taxes is $200K and below.

Let’s see, Obama started at 250K, now reports of 200K. IF the media, ACORN, and all of the generational government dependent parasites succeed in getting Obama elected we can likely count on the threashold dropping to below 150 or 100K to qualify for a “tax cut”, i.e., welfare (wealth re-distribution, being fair, patriotic, or whatever re-defintion Obama, et al care to call it….)!!!

By Response

November 1, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

GodHatesTrash @ 7:10 and 7:35am - what are you doing blogging so early? Aren’t you supposed to be out rap thumping in your leased Escalade????

By Jay

November 1, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

Why I Can’t Vote For Obama By Huntley Brown

Dear Friends, A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an e-mail with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but its worth repeating..

First I must say who ever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.

Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness.

I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means he leads I follow. I can’t dictate the terms he does because he is the leader.

I can’t vote black because I am black I have to vote Christian because that’s who I am. Christian first black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I wont be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I know Jesus and accepted him as Lord and savior.

In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning to name a few wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.

We need to follow Martin Luther King’s words don’t judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don’t know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record.

His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

To beat Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.

There is a reason planned parenthood gives him a 100 % ratings. There is a reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc loves him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the supreme court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted no on partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted no on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.

Lets take a look at the practice he wanted to continue.

The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedure A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby) B. The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal. C. The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head. D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole. E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed. God help him.

There is a reason Obama opposed the parent notification law.

Think about this you can’t give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane.

There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years.

Obama tells us he has good judgement but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wrights sermons. I wonder why now?

Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28 v 19 - 20 Go and make disciples of all nations. This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you, talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?

Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenants that said they have a

  • Commitment to the White Community
  • Commitment to the White Family
  • Adherence to the White Work Ethic
  • Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community .
  • Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
  • Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
  • Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.” Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
  • Just change the word from white to black and you have the tennants of Obamas former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.

    This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can’t be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.

    A church can’t have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if its a white church or a black church its still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.

    Obama’s former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: “Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.

    Cone is the man Obama’s mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?

    So what does all this mean for the nation?

    In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing judgement.

    Read 1 Samuel 8. When Israel asked for a king. First God says 1 Samuel 8 v 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do.”

    Then God says 1 Samuel 8 v 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.” 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.” 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”

    Here is what we know for sure

    God is not schizophrenic

    He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God.

    Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.

    For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion.

    He might have to nominate three or four supreme court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against you.

    I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this.I know I can look the other way because of the economy.

    I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama’s positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends.

    Since we know someone’s value system has to be placed on the nation,

    1 Whose value system should be placed on the nation.

    2 Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation?

    Blessings, Huntley Brown

    By alan

    November 1, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

    @ Bud Wiser November 1, 2008 5:54 AM

    If Onyango’s case had been a relative of Sarah Palin’s, GOP VOTERS WILL BE CLAIMING “VICIOUS ATTACKS” ON HER FAMILY BY THE evil ‘LIBERAL’ MEDIA.

    Why despite massive deficits, massive outsourcing of jobs overseas, a depressing economy, costly unending wars, corruption, the largest expansion of govt. in our nation’s history, the disregard for our constitution, e.t.c, ANY SANE PERSON WILL EVEN CONSIDER voting Republican is beyond me.

    Alan

    By alan

    November 1, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

    By Bud Wiser November 1, 2008 8:18 AM | Oh yeah, you liberal morons know everything in advance of it happening, or know all of the “what ifs”, don’t you?

    Stupid fool !! Tell Palin, the “family value” gal to put her money where her mouth is. Why is her daughter pregnant out of wedlock? Bad parenting, maybe!

    Or, this too is not a fact, but a what-if ??

    alan

    By Liz

    November 1, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

    Oh, good, you took off Chloe’s comment about Senator Obama being a coke-snorting, anal sex enjoying Muslim. A little slow, but that’s OK. Attn. Greg Mendel - if you want blogs with civil discourse and factually-based information, go to the New York Times & don’t waste your time on these ignorant SOBs.

    By Sheri

    November 1, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

    I swear, this is so sad. Everytime I come in these boards, something racist has to be said when discussing Obama. You people just can’t help it, can you? It feels so good to let your REAL feelings out about the kind of person who probably work with and smile at every day. What the hell is wrong with you people? Why are you so damned racist? I mean, do you see any stories about black supremacist groups trying to kill McCain? Do you see any stories about black folks hanging McCain’s likeness from a tree? People fear that black people will riot if McCain wins, but so far, it looks like we really have to fear what will happen if Obama wins. For the love of God, can’t you just judge people on their individual character and live and let live? I am so sick of seeing this white supremacist shyt.

    By Goldie

    November 1, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

    You extremist religious whack-jobs like jay @ 7:54 are the reason that the Republican Party is so broken today. You condone pre-emptive WAR and all its atrocities against human life and then try to make a righteous stance against what you call “partial-birth abortion”… it’s a very rare medical procedure that has clouded your very brain. Get real, why dontcha?

    I believed Jesus when I learned in Sunday school that He said, “JUDGE NOT, lest ye be judged.” Barack Obama gets votes from many Christians due to his voting record for the needy among us, just like Jesus preached in his day… and Obama doesn’t promote pre-emptive WAR against living human beings, like John McAngry does. McAngry goes around singing “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran!” like that’s somehow funny.

    So, Take your religious, Bible-thumping BS and shove it — because you’re just UGLY and anti-Christian.

    By Keeping It Real

    November 1, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

    Sheri,

    I used to get upset also when reading some of the racist crap on these blogs. You should not worry as the comments are intended to create conversation and discord. Racism is as American as apple pie and it will never end in our life time. The only consolation is that not all white people are racist. I just ignore the racists and befriend those whites who accept me as a human being. Barrack Obama does this as well despite all the negative attacks. Keep your cool and move forward.

    By McHater

    November 1, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

    Does anyone ever wonder how there is always one Black person in the background at McOld rally? The problem is, when they pan out, he’s the only one there. How does a Brother always get that good seat?

    By Sheri

    November 1, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

    Thank you, Keeping It Real. I will.

    By GodHatesTrash

    November 2, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

    Posted on the current thread, too

    By GodHatesTrash November 2, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this Unbelievably, Bookman pulled down around a dozen of my posts from Friday night, yesterday, and banned me for the day.

    I consistently provide some of the best writing on this blog (not that that’s saying much), instead he prefers the never-ending monotonous garbage, chum, empty threats and swill from the misanthropes and paranoids. He never challenges them, he never ridicules them, he just let’s their vile lies and slanders stand unchallenged.

    Well, Bookman, face it, you’re no Ralph McGill. But you’re on track to be another Jim Wooten. Good for you!

    So I’ll leave you for your regular clientele for awhile.

    I urge other progressive decent people to do the same.

    Without us, this blog is just another hate site

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