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Gallup says race tightening!

Gallup’s numbers have tightened. Will that be reflected in other tracking polls as well?

PRINCETON, NJ — The gap between Barack Obama and John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Saturday through Monday has narrowed slightly, and Obama is now at 49% of the vote to 47% for McCain among likely voters using Gallup’s traditional model, and at 51% to 44% using Gallup’s expanded model.

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By demwit

October 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Whoa the humanity!!

By TN Gelding

October 28, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

They probably will. But the Electoral College looks favorable for Obama.

McCain has to campaign with Palin to draw a crowd. She said again today that he knows how to win wars. Where would he have learned that? Certainly not from experience. He has indicated he is willing to prolong them forever.

By darren

October 28, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Beware. The income redistributon bit just might turn more than a few voters. It always has in the past.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 28, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

What did I tell you?

bwa

By AJC/DNC Management

October 28, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Former Detroit Mayor Democat Kwame Kilpatrick Headed to Jail for Sex Scandal

By AmVet

October 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

gelding, you’re right.

All this hullabaloo about th4 polls is only regarding the popular vote.

The electoral college, according to every(?) source out there, including Rove’s, show Obama winning hands down…

By Taxpayer

October 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

I don’t know, what?

awb

By ByteMe

October 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Hahaha.. Thanks, Jay, way to give Andy a hard-on!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

But Obama’s running mate, Joe Biden, told a Scranton, Pa., TV station on Monday that Obama’s tax break “should go to middle class people — people making under $150,000 a year.”

“You getting an idea of what’s on their mind, huh? A little sneak peak,” McCain said, pointing to Biden’s comment. “It’s interesting how their definition of rich has a way of creeping down. At this rate, it won’t be long before Senator Obama is right back to his vote that Americans making just $42,000 a year should get a tax increase.”

Now it sounds like they are just going to keep the tax increases for themselves, just like democrats always do.

Maybe you’ll get a premium 600 sf ground level apartment at the housing complex, if you’re lucky.

By findog

October 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

That is only because they are looking at likely voters. They are not including the millions that have already cast a ballot for Obama.

By mm

October 28, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Here’s what the GOP has been reduced to in Virginia. They’ve sent out a fake flier telling Dems to vote on November 5th.

Fake flier

Scum of the earth wingnuts. They’ve destroyed our country and still their braindead followers cheer on Bush and McCain. AND THEY CHEAT

By E

October 28, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

How can anyone believe John McCain? This race shouldn’t be close.

Please send this video link to your family or friends who are voting for McCain, and ask them how they can vote for this man with a clear conscience.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk)

Obama/Biden ‘08

By AJC/DNC Management

October 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - A federal judge in Ohio has ruled that counties must allow homeless voters to list park benches and other locations that aren’t buildings as their addresses.

hahahahahaha, damn you libs are desperate.

By ByteMe

October 28, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

findog: actually the “traditional” gallup model is flawed for this election because it assumes a few “facts” that are inconveniently wrong this election:

  • Blacks will be under-represented
  • Young people will be under-represented
  • “Likely” voters will be people who will have voted in 2004, which dramatically under-represents the millions of new voters registered in the battleground states.
  • Gallup makes up for it by having a couple of other models that are more in line with what the other pollsters are reporting… a 6+ point lead nationally.

    By Midori

    October 28, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

    Andy laughs at the homeless and calls us desperate.

    sigh

    btw Andy - I’m all for Kilpatrick going to jail.

    Unlike you and your neanderthal brethern, Dems believe in punishment for crimes committed.

    All you morons do is cheer them on.

    By getalife

    October 28, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

    Amazing how Americans vote for failures. People in the world will give up on our country if McCain wins.

    By GodHatesTrash

    October 28, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

    A vote for Hensley-McCain is a vote for a manslaughterer

    By Billy

    October 28, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

    Desperate? For wanting American citizens to be able to exercise their right to vote? Let’s use some GOP-style “logic” here.

    Since they have no real addresses, the homeless shouldn’t be allowed to vote. A number of our veterans are homeless. So homeless veterans shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

    Republicans do not support our troops!!!

    By AJC/DNC Management

    October 28, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

    Huh, McCain closes the gap on Oblahma and-

    Stocks Stage Fierce Rally, Dow Surges Over 600 Points- AP

    Why would you ever doubt me?

    By Bosch

    October 28, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

    I expect Georgia to be a toss-up by the end of the week. Like I’ve said before, maybe my vote will actually COUNT this time.

    By @@

    October 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

    Ummm jay? You do know that there are those of us who can follow the polls without your help, don’t you?

    I think you’re spending too much time with child-like democrats.

    A refreshing change would be if you give us a column on a topic with substance. Otherwise, your multiple daily offerings are nothing more than a game of hopscotch.

    By ByteMe

    October 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

    @@’s just annoyed that Democrats are partying hard without her.

    By Republican Logic

    October 28, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

    McCain and Palin say NO to spreading anything around. They say that wealth should not be spread around. Instead it should be clumped in the pockets of the wealthy because once the wealthy are wealthier then they will spread the wealth around on their on. They don’t want or need anyone else telling them how to spread wealth around and besides maybe they don’t want to spread anything around. Besides if they spread wealth around then it won’t be wealth any more now will it. It’ll just be spread. More like a cheap margarine and there are too many obese people in this country already so the last thing they need is cheap margarine. So, it’s just plain wrong to spread wealth. Wealth should be accumulated for the health of the poor.

    By NRB

    October 28, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

    Jay, you forgot to write a long tirade blaming white racism for the narrowing gap in the polls…or will that be on the AJC front page tomorrow morning?

    By AJC/DNC Management

    October 28, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

    I’m sorry-

    Huh, McCain closes the gap on Oblahma and-

    Stocks Stage Fierce Rally, Dow Surges 890 Points- AP

    Why would you ever doubt me?

    By Dusty

    October 28, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

    Now now @@ 4:27

    You know Bookman LIKES to play hopscotch. The attention span and all those little problems. He is also in the Palin Anonymous Program, the goal being that no Sarah comments shall be impulsively written EVERY day on the hour. So you see he is really struggling..at a GALLUP.

    Then he has to put up with the likes of Midori, bosch,mm, getalife and findog. I mean, the man has a cross to bear as the expression goes. I’m holding back the tears..well, sorta…woohoo…yes..

    By citizen

    October 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

    I’ve been undecided until I began to read about the sponsors of The ‘Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000’ which legalized the ‘credit default swaps’ that created this world wide financial crisis. The financial derivatives were specifically deregulated by Sen. Phil Gramm who was until July 18, 2008, senior economic adviser to John McCain’s campaign.

    By Republican Logic

    October 28, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

    Since when did a Republican care about substance. Substance doesn’t win votes from the Republican base. The Republican base only responds to baseless pandering and meaningless chants. Perhaps the Republicans just don’t want to see the polls because there is nothing there to feel good about for them. Awwww. Isn’t that sad.

    By Dennis

    October 28, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

    mm (3:27): Can’t you recognize humor. Or do you really believe that Democrat voters are really the stupid?

    By RB from Gwinnett

    October 28, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

    mm, I like how you say R’s distroyed “our” country. You never seem to get it that this country was made what it is by hard working, enterprising, no excuses people who took a chance and made something of themselves while bringing their employees along with them.

    You know, people nothing like you.

    By Dennis

    October 28, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

    mm (3:27): Can’t you recognize humor. Or do you really believe that Democrat voters are really the stupid?

    By AJC/DNC Management

    October 28, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

    You’re right kookman, the pressure is causing some squabbles among the campaign staffers:

    Well, consider this example: Elizabeth Edwards – wife of former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards and currently a health care advisor to Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign – isn’t 100% behind the Democratic nominee’s health care plan.

    “We’re on the verge of an Obama Presidency,” said Edwards at George Washington University Monday night, and “I’m not that fond of his plan.”

    Don’t worry, Liz, he’s probably lying about it anyway.

    By RB from Gwinnett

    October 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

    Democrats - Not voting for change, voting for cash.

    By RB from Gwinnett

    October 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

    Democrats - Not voting for change, voting for cash.

    By RB from Gwinnett

    October 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

    Democrats - Not voting for change, voting for cash.

    By GodHatesTrash

    October 28, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

    Hi decent folks, and a big 88 14 shout out to all you rightwingnut Bookman bloggers, too.

    By ByteMe

    October 28, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

    Dennis: humor, huh? You think that’ll sell when they haul the authors of the flier into court?

    In 2007, the [Virginia] General Assembly passed a law making it a Class 1 misdemeanor to knowingly communicate false information to registered voters about the date, time and place of the election or voters’ precincts, polling places or voter registration statuses in order to impede their voting.

    State police are looking into it.

    Only rightwingnuts would think that breaking election law in an attempt at voter suppression is “humor”. But ohhhhhh, if it has to do with their own hot-button issues of ACORN, illegal aliens voting, and homeless people voting, then it’s not funny, right?

    Or do you think that ACORN registering “Mickey Mouse” is humor as well?

    By AJC/DNC Management

    October 28, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

    Did you see that amazing video obtained by the Los Angeles Times of Sen. Barack Obama toasting a prominent former PLO member at an Arab American Action Network meeting in 2003? The video in which Obama gives Yasser Arafat’s frontman a warm embrace, as Bill Ayers look on?

    You haven’t seen it? Me, neither. The Los Angeles Times refuses to release it.

    And so an incriminating video of Obama literally “palling around” with PLO supporters becomes one more nail in the coffin of “objective journalism.”

    By Kia

    October 28, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

    Isn’t this customary??

    By AJC/DNC Management

    October 28, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

    Did you see that amazing video obtained by the Los Angeles Times of Sen. Barack Obama toasting a prominent former PLO member at an Arab American Action Network meeting in 2003? The video in which Obama gives Yasser Arafat’s frontman a warm embrace, as Bill Ayers look on?

    Oblahma- “Just a guy who lives in the neighborhood…”

    You liberals couldn’t be more disgusting.

    By GodHatesTrash

    October 28, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

    There’s a video of Sarah Palin nekkid with a moose, but we haven’t seen that either.

    By @@

    October 28, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

    Bit-choo @ 4:33:

    @@’s just annoyed that Democrats are partying hard without her.

    Thanks for confirming what I’ve known all along Byte — democrats are out partying while I’m hard at work.

    Member of the 40% club, are ya?

    By @@

    October 28, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

    Dusty @ 4:46:

    You know Bookman LIKES to play hopscotch.

    jay obviously gets paid for quantity, not quality.

    It’d be like me gettin’ paid to show up every day only to say “hi” and “bye” to the kids.

    By ByteMe

    October 28, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

    @@: blogging can be billable hours if you work for the right company :)

    By Bud Wiser

    October 28, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

    You want to know why the race is tightening, other than the obvious?

    The Associated Press Published: October 28, 2008

    RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The Virginia NAACP has sued Gov. Tim Kaine, arguing that the state failed to prepare for an unprecedented turnout of voters in next week’s presidential election. The complaint, filed late Monday in U.S. District Court in Richmond, alleges that with record increases in voter registration, the state failed to provide enough polling places. It asks the court to put the federal government in charge of the election in Virginia, to reallocate voting machines to precincts most likely to have long waiting lines and to keep polls open for an additional two hours.

    Suing over ‘racism’ for an election that hasn’t even taken place yet? People are sick and damned tired of these Obamaniacs; what’s the problem? ACORN got too many newly registered deceased voters, family pets, entertainment-park celebrities, and professional athletes lined up waiting?

    And you people are wondering why the race is tightening? Your absurdity and stupidity defies even the most far reaching stretches of logic. Ever heard the stort about the kid who gets caught with their hand in the cookie jar?

    ACORN, NAACP, you’re it!

    Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be so stupid as to get caught

    By AmVet

    October 28, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

    Notwithstanding that many white voters here will vote for anything with an R after it, Bush’s dependable lapdog Saxby deserves a chance to find employment in the private sector.

    More than deserves it, wouldn’t you say?

    Like his master he gladly and fully supported income redistribution/Marxism by giving even more of OUR money to the swindlers and speculators on Wall Street, and voting for the financial “crisis”/bailout.

    It’s time for the never-served, never-will, six deferment “Blood & Guts” to quit being an embarrassment to Georgia and resign.

    I’ve written him and suggested he do so.

    No reply (just robocalls).

    And for you white “conservative” voters, who do not subscribe to that first paragraph, get your rear ends out there and vote for Buckley instead!

    By TN Gelding

    October 28, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

    Arizona now leaning McCain instead of solid McCain.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    October 28, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

    Like his master he gladly and fully supported income redistribution/Marxism by giving even more of OUR money to the swindlers and speculators on Wall Street, and voting for the financial “crisis”/bailout.

    Blah, blah, blah-

    Pelosi: Well in terms of regulation, it is just the beginning. As I said in my remarks we had to look at the, pass this bill with an eye to the future in terms of what vision we want to have for our country in terms of our economy and what other legislation we must pass to affect that. And one is regulatory reform, which Henry Waxman is starting on right now, he will have hearings to this effect. And then there is Barney Frank and his committee will be launching legislation to readjust the financial structure.

    If it’s so bad then why do all you libs want more?

    By @@

    October 28, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

    @@: blogging can be billable hours if you work for the right company :)

    Like the AJC bit’cha? Or are you just living vicariously thru?

    Try convincing yourself ‘cause you’ve failed miserably if your job is to convince me.

    :) <——-back-at’cha

    By AmVet

    October 28, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

    Andy, enlightening retort!

    But, I agree that it is hard to argue that Chambliss isn’t a Marxist…

    Meanwhile, Chambliss and his aides seem to be worried that Republican voters might not show up on Election Day.

    “It’s so important that we have turnout,” Chambliss told about 80 Republican loyalists Friday at the courthouse in Fayette County, a GOP stronghold south of Atlanta. “The other folks are turning out — in record numbers,” he said.

    In a warm-up speech for Chambliss at the Fayette County courthouse, conservative Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland told the crowd, “If the Democrats get to 60 in the Senate (with that uppity Obama), we’re going to be in real deep trouble.”

    Let’s hope so, cracker. Let’s hope so…

    By RW-(the original)

    October 28, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

    Here’s a poll for you. If Pennsylvania is a double digit no brainer and Georgia is a tossup, why are both camps blanketing PA day after day and not Georgia?

    The answer is that the pollsters are lying to you, but feel free not to believe me.

    By TN Gelding

    October 28, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

    AmVet

    October 28, 2008 3:18 PM

    SOME OF THE POLLING IS A LITTLE DATED, THO.

    Obama is still working hard.

    Work and responsibility. Why aren’t the Republicans hearing that message?

    By TN Gelding

    October 28, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

    RW-(the original)

    October 28, 2008 6:27 PM

    Certainly the polls might be flawed.

    But pollsters lying to us? Murtha’s remarks put Pennsylvania back in play and Jackson’s did the same for FL. Biden hasn’t helped matters either.

    Full context of radio remarks.

    By sunshine and thunder

    October 28, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

    JAY

    Don’t worry. The polls will put out the correct data one day before the election.

    By RB from Gwinnett

    October 28, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

    TN, conservatives have been LIVING that message, remember? We’re the evil rich people you’re trying to fleece. You don’t get that way sitting on your arse watching Oprah and stuffing your face with government cheese.

    Liberals, voting for cash instead of change.

    By RW-(the original)

    October 28, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

    gelding,

    Yes, pollsters lying to you. Kerist! I told you to feel free not to believe me.

    Murtha may have thrown a monkey wrench into some Virginia polling places today. His opponent is from Virginia and Murtha said no God dammed Virginian was going to represent his district. YouTube should have it for your viewing pleasure any minute.

    By DebbieDoRight

    October 28, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

    TN, conservatives have been LIVING that message, remember? We’re the evil rich people you’re trying to fleece. You don’t get that way sitting on your arse watching Oprah and stuffing your face with government cheese.

    No you guys earned your money the old fashioned way — off of your daddy’s hard work and sweat. Trust fund babies.

    Liberals, voting for cash instead of change.

    Repuglicans, voting to turn the US into a 3rd world country with two classes, rich and poor. See how well that worked for South America, the rich fear being kidnapped and tortured by the poor who have nothing to loose.

    By Sir Winston

    October 28, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

    Now the polls are tightening, Big Surprise the Main Stream Media and other assorted wh@res for the democrat party want their polling data to be close to right on election day. Heretofore, they have been able to use the polls to make news stories, pump up Obama, and attempt to dishearten Republicans, but as election day nears they need to cover their rears. Gone, for now, will be the polls that over-sample democrats. You libs should be angry with the media if Obama loses next week. I fear that many of you have been lied to by your own media of choice. But take heart. Those same Obama puffing polls that have given you and yours this sense of over confidence and machismo will be used to claim that the election was stolen, or that this is a racist country that rejected Obama, like so many democrat primary voters just a few months ago. This is getting good. Peace.

    By AmVet

    October 28, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this

    “Why aren’t the Republicans hearing that message?”

    I have a theory. And it does not involve second gunmen on grassy knolls, Marxists or aliens and Elvis.

    When the GOP finally won control of the House in 1994 they had been the minority party for forty consecutive years. FORTY YEARS!

    When that finally changed, a very sad thing happened for America. Rather than put their money where their mouth was and show the nation that they were the better party which could more effectively govern, they became obsessed with retribution, revenge, pettiness and unbridled avarice.

    All things non neo-con had to be purged.

    But myopically they practiced their “art” using the same sleazy, corrupt methods. And took them to new heights, or should I say, depths.

    Worse, rather than give a flip about what hard working, middle class Americans really wanted, which wasn’t all that much, just a fair break now and then, they put their intransigent agenda and their monied cronies first, last and always.

    Sadly it took 12 years to realize for most, but not all of us Americans, that these clowns were actually worse than the awful Democrats.

    In the meantime they exploded the size, cost, scope and interference of the federal government.

    Not only did they turn a blind eye to the corporate criminals, swindlers and liars who plundered the American people’s money, they participated.

    They executed a criminal invasion of another country that has cost us nearly 4200 American lives and untold billions of dollars.

    They coddled and pandered to obvious religious frauds and charlatans simply for the votes of their lockstep, intolerant reactionaries.

    They joyfully participated in the wanton defilement and destruction of this planet for nothing but money and power.

    They silenced any and all voices that did not exactly match what they wanted to hear.

    But worst of all, they took the enormous good will of the American people and the citizens of the world and threw it away like garbage.

    So now we have a nation that trusts these “leaders” and their government as little as at any time since Richard Nixon.

    And that is why they are looking at another forty years of being on the outside looking in.

    And why millions of Americans, even lifelong Republicans, are not going to forget, or forgive them, anytime soon…

    By Taxpayer

    October 28, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

    Bush and his cronies make Richard Nixon look like a Saint.

    By Race Cop

    October 28, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

    It is racist to point out that the polls are tightening.

    By professional skeptic

    October 28, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

    AmVet:

    Amen, brother, amen.

    By TN Gelding

    October 28, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

    RB from Gwinnett

    October 28, 2008 6:52 PM

    Poverty doesn’t discriminate between political parties.

    Conservatives and Republicans rely on government programs as well. The fact is much of it is caused by illness or injury. Certainly there is a very small segment of the population that hasn’t broken the poverty cycle, but the money they receive goes directly back into the economy. Our challenge is to break that cycle.

    Reagan and Bush, professed conservatives, are responsible for 90% of the national debt. Without that debt and the wasteful spending in Iraq, you wouldn’t have to have your taxes raised. That said, true patriots would pay it and be thankful they were in a position to do so. But I disagree with Obama’s tax plan. Certainly the rich can and must pay more, but so should the rest of us. We need something similar to what Clinton passed in 1993, that increases taxes and also reduces spending, to put us on a path to a balanced budget and fiscal responsibility. It has to be done carefully tho so as not to contribute to slowing the economy even further.

    By AJC/DNC and RW's Daddy

    October 28, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

    It is racist to point out that the polls are tightening

    No but it’s sexist.

    By AJC/DNC and RW's Daddy

    October 28, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

    You know, Ted Nugent said … [Palin] took a crowbar and she cut through all of the corruption in Alaska, and she took on the oilmen, and she took on all the men. “Well, surely, girl, you can sit on the couch with the woman who’s won an Oscar [Goldberg], the woman [who interviewed] Fidel Castro [Walters], a couple of comics and a woman who’s a mother. Surely, you can sit there and talk to these women on ‘The View’.

    Not likely. Our Dear Sarah can’t go on the show without her witch doctor and .357. Wonder if she’ll still be able to see the moon from her back porch with Putin’s head in the way?

    By AJC/DNC and RW's Daddy

    October 28, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

    John McCain said he’s going to win (the third presidential debate). Of course, he also told Custer the surge was working.

    According to a recent poll, 61 percent of people surveyed said they’d rather see Sarah Palin in a bikini than Pamela Anderson. Although 99 percent said they’d rather see Pamela Anderson as vice president.

    Son, It must really hurt when comedians don’t even have to try and make a funny about your candidates.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    October 28, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

    Polly: You do realize there is another thread up, don’t you?

    Or is this what your comedy career has come to, insanely babbling to an empty room?

    (applause)

    By AJC/DNC and RW's Daddy

    October 28, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

    I caught you checking didn’t I son? Or do you just go back and read your garbage over and over again while playing with yourself?

    By Susie

    October 28, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

    This is on website www.truthorfiction.com Campaign Contributions From Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac for Senator Barack Obama-Truth!

    Summary of the eRumor:
    An eRumor called the “Barack Obama’s Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Connection” claiming that Senator Barack Obama ranked the number two spot in campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    The Truth:
    John Gibson of Fox News wrote an article by this title on September 16, 2008, quoting sources from the Center for Responsive Politics. In it, Gibson stated that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had used “huge lobbying budgets and political contributions to keep regulators off their backs.” According to the article, “The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama.”

    The Center for Responsive Politics (CRP), according to their web site, is a “nonpartisan guide to money’s influence on U.S. elections and public policy.”

    According to the report posted on the CRP web site Donations for the Illinois senator from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac report between 1989-2008 tabulated up to $126,349. The same report show John McCain contributions from the same group tabulated to $21,550.

    A New York Times article dated September 9,2008 stated both candidates had ties with the lending giants but Senator Obama “is second among members of Congress in donations from the firms’ employees and political action committees.”

    By Vote Twice

    October 28, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

    The election will be closer than most of the polls show. I cannot believe America has fallen to the level we will elect a socialist president. But, we may have and if that is the case we deserve just what we vote for. Vote McCain

    By Algonquin J. Calhoun

    October 28, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

    The only thing tightening up is McShame’s backside, in anticipation of the kick Obama is going to deliver to it!

    By Larry Clifton

    October 28, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

    I am looking at this severely-biased, now at a frenzie to elect socialist Jeremiah Wright cohort ACORn man Obama, and thinking, this is a lot of hype. The polls are conducted by the old freaks in the media. Who knows what will actually happen on election day….

    By TN Gelding

    October 28, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

    Susie

    October 28, 2008 9:27 PM

    I suspect those donations were to his presidential campaign, but haven’t been able to find anything to back it up.

    By TooLate

    October 28, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

    Unfortunately the media and the DNC legal henchmen have given Obama and Biden a pass on any number of professional and personal issue some of which are finally coming to light, though a bit too late. The media refuses to challenge Obama or Biden - when they do they are cast as unprofessional, blackballed, and/or call r*!!!

    By TooLate

    October 28, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

    Unfortunately the media and the DNC legal henchmen have given Obama and Biden a pass on any number of professional and personal issue some of which are finally coming to light, though a bit too late. The media refuses to challenge Obama or Biden - when they do they are cast as unprofessional, blackballed, and/or called r*!!!

    By Keeping It Real

    October 29, 2008 7:11 AM | Link to this

    The election will be determined by the “RACE CARD” no matter what we think. The politicians know it and the press has to down play it for the sake of our country. Most minorities will vote for Obama.They would vote for him if he were white. The key vote will come from white people who hold no racial prejuidice. Joe the plumber has been very good for McCain because it put the face of a hard working white man in the minds of the majority voter. It sounds better to refer to Obama as a sociolist instead of a Arab or the N word. America is still America when it comes to race.

    By ron

    October 29, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this

    Polls. Schmolls. Next week this time there will be celebrations and lamentations.The polls won’t mean a thing.

    On Wednasday next,I’ll crawl out of bed in the morning and check the computer to see what adjustments I have to make in my life to survive the next 4 years.With McCain the adjustments will be minor.Not so with Obama.Many adjustments will be required to survive with him at the helm.I’ll have two short months to make them which is plenty of time.

    By Say What?

    October 29, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

    Listening to you right-wing crybabies is enough to make me puke. You’re so concerned that the media hasn’t made a big deal out of Obama’s associations. I’m here to tell you that there’s not a single registered voter in this country that’s not aware of Reverend Wright or Bill Ayers or the fact that his middle name is Hussein or any of the other red herrings you’ve thrown into the debate. EARTH TO REPUBLICANS: we’ll take it into account before deciding we STILL are going to vote for the man.

    How about this one, Repukes: John McCain is AN OLD, OLD MAN. He’s had cancer. He may well STILL have cancer. He refuses to divulge his medical records. He may die in office. Why hasn’t that ruthless liberal media pounded McCain on his health and age?

    Get over it. Your gig is up, you know it, and you cry like the liberals you constantly disparage. Life ain’t fair…at least that’s what you told the Democrats in 2000 and 2004…right? RIGHT?????

    By hotlanta

    October 29, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

    Still waiting on the headlines to read “White Male TERRORISTS had Assasination Plot to Kill Obama”. That will be the day.

    By hotlanta

    October 29, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

    Still waiting on the headlines to read “White Male TERRORISTS had Assasination Plot to Kill Obama”. That will be the day.

    By HMMMMM

    October 29, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this

    Say What? Obama will lose because he is a SOCIALIST! So GET OVER IT!

    By cc

    October 29, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

    these socialism scare tactics are just plain crap. whne did america start become country with so many scared rats? fearful of the mention of any pretend boogeyman. the fact is the only thing that will be redistributed is the top heavy wealth at the top. that’s what is killing free market capitalism. excessive greed at the top. there is a trickle down but isn’t insufficicent for people to live off of. slowly starving from not getting enough everyday. just like the long term effects of not getting enough to sustain life on a daily basis does to concentration camp prisoners. they slowly wither away. for capitalism to work it needs to be a steady flowing stream down. not a trickle, it’s not enough to keep the wheel turning. stop trying to scare other americans on ideas that not only have been proven false in these last few years, but have been proven false more than once in history. and remember everybody, that little ol’ university of georgia in athens is state created, state funded and state regulated. you know what that make uga? you got it, a socialist institution. don’t you like the dawgs? you must be a liberal or a witch or a heretic or something.

    By Hasell Brown

    October 29, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

    The race is tightening…because many people are about to vote against their best interests AGAIN! Questions that should be asked are this: Is it not redistribution of wealth when 3000 people are laid off and the CEO gets a mega-bonus? Is it not redistribution of wealth when the CEO makes 200 TIMES what the lowest-paid employee makes? Is it not redistribution of wealth when tax breaks are given to corporations that send their jobs offshore and unemployment rises due to this fact? Is it not redistribution of wealth when the preponderance of those with wealth pay less in taxes than those in the middle class? I thought that “for whom much is given, much is required!”

    By cc

    October 29, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

    republicans support the rich and anybody that is poor deserves it and is a lazy slacker in their opinions. yet they call themselves christians. Jesus cared about the poor and would help those who would help themselves even if they were way down on their luck. and Jesus disliked the rich and overly powerful. seems like the message jumped track somewhere. I love ya Jesus you’re my favorite long-haired hippie liberal.

    By Uncle Sam

    October 29, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

    you know who is supposed to live in the Home of the Brave? people who don’t run scared everytime a politician tells them to do so. it’s un-American to be so automatically scared at anything that isn’t just like you.

    By JR

    October 29, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

    AJC/DNC and RW’s Daddy, Why the constant fixation on male genitalia.

    By Say What?

    October 29, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

    Too bad most Republicans are too stupid to understand the term CORPORATISTS. To me, that is the dirtiest word in our language, and it precisely describes the Republican plan for wealth redistribution. For you to whine about socialism or Marxism or whatever ism suits your slanderous bent is an indication that you would rather have your tax dollars directed to major corporations and not to your fellow Americans. Frankly, you’re too ignorant to be calling the shots, and America is sick of it. If you are so concerned about the lazy getting access to your hard earned cash…explain why your beloved Republican Congress did NOTHING to crack down on welfare abuse. NOTHING. NADA.

    Capitalism for the poor; socialism for the rich. The new Republican mantra.

    By TN Gelding

    October 29, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

    Keeping It Real

    October 29, 2008 7:11 AM

    Joe the apprentice plumber.

    Those that would vote against Obama because of his race mostly live in the states that would go McCain anyway. But some of those states might go to him because of their heavy Afro-American population.

    By Steve

    October 29, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

    Jay,

    I think I saw you at the Lowe’s (Edgewood) this weekend. I wanted to shake your hand and congratulate you for all the years I’ve read your excellent commentary here at the AJC.

    Steve

    By TN Gelding

    October 29, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

    ron

    October 29, 2008 7:18 AM

    It’s an election, not the end of the world. Don’t do anything rash.

    Give the guy a chance.

    By cliff zeider

    October 29, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

    Hey, I would suggest to all you porch mon keys waitng for your hero obama to provide you with better living, take a look at his brother in Kenya, he lives in a mud hut and pays $1.00 a month rent. Would think with all his millions obama would give him a helping hand. CZ

    By A Vote For Obama

    October 29, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

    Top ten reasons why voters are voting for Obama. 10) he smile prettier than McCain 9) he walk smoother than McCain 8) people won’t think i’m open-minded if i don’t vote for him 7) he support my right to choose to destroy my unborn child for any reason i see fit at any time. Maybe he extend the time for a few months after birth to really see i want to keep the kid. That would be really open-minded of him. 6) he a much better color than McCain 5) people won’t think i’m intelligent, cause the liberal bloggers say only uneducated/unintelligent people could possibly vote for McCain 4) i really like socialism 3) i really like big government 2) i get to still sit around and get a bigger piece of the pie 1) Al Qaida ain’t visited us in the past seven years and I really miss them “nice and misunderstood” people and Mr. Obama will leave them alone in Iraq and that region so they can get strong again and come visit us again or may be we can have Gulf War III in a few years.

    By B-Bro

    October 29, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

    PLEASE PEOPLE DON’T FALL FOR THE OBAMA SUGAR COATED RHETORIC. THIS CANIDATE IS JUST ALL ABOUT PROMISES AND HAS NO HISTORY WITH WORKING WITH ALL THE POLITICIANS AS JOHN MCCAIN DOES. JOHN MCCAIN WILL CROSS PARTY LINES AND WORK WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE GOVERMENT AND HE’S PROVED THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. OBAMA AND BIDEN SHOW THERE DISLIKE TREMENDOUSLY FOR THE OTHER SIDE AND THERE’S NO WAY THEY WILL WORK TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE TO BETTER THIS COUNTRY. I BELIEVE A VOTE FOR MCCAIN WILL BE A VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE NOT A GOVERMENT PARTY.

    By Republicans R Crooks

    October 29, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

    The lying Republicans have pulled out all the stops on their lies, and gaff boy Biden hasn’t helped any, but voter rage at the neocons is fueling many republicans like me to vote for and financially support Obama.

    By Caught You

    October 29, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

    9:29AM poster,

    You aren’t a Republican. You are a flaming Democrat.

    By NoObama08

    October 29, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

    By getalife

    October 28, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

    Amazing how Americans vote for failures. People in the world will give up on our country if McCain wins +++++++++++++++++++ It does not matter what other people in the world think about us…what matters is who can best lead this country at this time and that person is NOT Barrack Hussien Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By tiff

    October 29, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

    It occured to me last night that everytime i’m on any of these blogs, I hear the right-wingers say “If you don’t like America you are free to leave on whatever boat you came on. So for all you republicans who don’t like the idea of an Obama presidency”FEEL FREE TO EXIT THIS GREAT LAND AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE.” Because he will be the next COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. These idiots think that democrats are voting for Obama because we want welfare. But just like their NIT-WITTED vice-presidential pick and that guy that picked her, they don’t understand that you can’t pay a $2,600.00 a month mortgage, $455.00 to the bank for your car payment, life, health, car insurance, groceries, cable, lights, water, clothing, etc. on a welfare check. Republicans have to be the dumbest people this country has ever produced. Some are milking the welfare system, but I have been lucky to have a job all my life. And wouldn’t quit it to get a welfare check. But also look at it this way. McCain and Palin would keep paying money to rebuild the infastructure of Iraq, feed their children, educate their children, build new fire and police stations, while our government officials are closing down our stations, and laying off our police and firepersons. All while Iraq has a government surplus of BILLIONS of dollars, to spend on whatever they want. Their officials live the high life while you ‘Dummy-REPUBLICANS’ sit around broke as hll, mad because you don’t want to put a man of color in the White House. I know all of you are not racist but the majority of you are. Just so happens that i’m not running for office so I have the distinct priviledge of telling the truth without giving a sht who doesn’t like it. Obama would never say they “R” word because he believes in unity and for that I respect him, I also believe in unity but I believe I can call a person what they are and still have love in my heart for them.

    OBAMA/BIDEN 08

    By dw

    October 29, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

    By Tiff@9:56

    There you go spouting blanket statements and slurs when you “abhor” blanket statements and slurs when they are made against your point of view. I did not vote against Obama because he is a man of color, I voted against his wish to institute government controlled healthcare, redistribution, leave Iraq prematurely so that we have to go thru another 9/11 or go back to the region again at a later date. As for racial bias occurring in the vote, that works both ways, but it is probably not as blatant as you spout off about. Lastly, sounds like this country has been pretty good to you, such that you afford a $2600/month mortgage. How are you going to make the payment when Obamanomics help redistribute wealth from your pocket to someone elses pocket?

    By cc

    October 29, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

    didn’t government get a lot bigger under bush/cheney? what entitlement programs did they get rid of when they had a chance? you know when they were in control of the white house and congress. they created trickle up economics for the rich. we may be paying lower taxes but more money is leaving our pockets. most of us, regular americans are hurting financially. more capital gains taxe cuts for powerful corporations is not going to help this country. the real people republicans are mad at is themselves. but they are too afraid to admit fault because they might lose face. even if that means running america into the ground first. republicans direct your anger and frustration at the republican party. they have not been who they said they would be, they duped you and are now making you look more foolish than ever for supporting them. obama is not winning this election as much as the republicans are losing it. people are tired of watching americans tear down other americans and all from the side that preaches united we stand. the biggest mistake was not selecting john mccain as your man in the 2000 election. he might have done a really good job. but now john isn’t half the man he was in 2000. the maverick has been hamstrung by the far right in his own party. instead a man like george bush who never served his country with honor when he had a chance when he was in the military was selected over a once decent man that did serve with honor. if you truly love america, like most people do who are on this blog or they wouldn’t even be here, you would never want our country of freedom to be a religious state and you would never want someone like sarah palin that close to running the show. the republican party can get better, but only if republicans start holding their own party accountable for it’s negative actions and stop looking to blame anyone and everyone that doesn’t shut up and do as they are told and blindly follow the propaganda.

    By tiff

    October 29, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

    Caught Up, Not only is 9:29am a Republican, he is an idiot and cannot spell or put together a sentence his mother could comprehend. Obama graduated at the top of his class, and has pushed for education reform. This guy would be the perfect poster child for education reform in this country. Maybe Obama can call it “TEACH AN OLD DUMB REPUBLICAN TO READ”.

    By making

    October 29, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

    Obama will win the popular vote BUT McCain will take the Electoral College which is what counts to be elected. As long as the polls show NO more than a 11 percent lead for Obama…McCain will win.

    By cc

    October 29, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

    dw - we already have national healthcare and it sucks for us ordinary americans. our medical insurance rates keep going up to cover the uninsured. anybody that goes to a hospital emergency can not be denied treatment. so their bills get heaped on the middle class. it needs to be done smarter and more fairly. and we can easily pay for it by no longer giving any money to illegal immigrants or by eliminating that entitlement program for lazy muslims called the iraq war. the iraq war was stupid and in todays’ world it’s hard to win a war like that. to win the war in iraq we would have to do things like sherman did in the civil war and in the indian wars out west. near genocide to the inhabitants. or else they will always fight for their land, just like we would. the war in iraq is not winnable unless we do them the same way as we did the japanese in ww11. it won’t happen like that, this is a defense contractors war not a patriotic war for america. a war that was supposed to save american lives has now crippled and killed many more people than died in the towers in 9/11. i love my country and am a honorably discharged veteran and patriot, but i think this country needs to acting smarter and stop acting like a big spoiled bumbling bully to the rest of the world. it’s not helping us. as far as redistribution, it’s just the excess money of greed at the top that anybody wants to regulate and redistribute. that’s fair. rich is ok, but when it is just greed and it starts hurting all of america just to pyramid some poker chips, that’s wrong. i hope you don’t believe rich people are looking out for you, they’re not. what is it that our country exports today? what is our main industry in this country today? i’ll tell ya, our main export is war. our main industry is defense contracting, and the way we have been using it, it should be called offense contracting. i worked at 2 defense contractors in atlanta for 20 years, they don’t want peace. the best way we can avoid another muslim terrorist attack is to stay away from them as much as possible. stop meddling in their business and sweep around our own back door first. we can stop put the shah in place in iran. we can stop getting involved in russia’s afghan war and let them enjoy an iraq type situation and not us. we can let saudi arabia fight their won war with saddam. and we can start using all energy sources available to us, not just oil. believe it or not, there are a lot of moms and dads and kids in the rest of the world that wish al qaeda and u.s. defense contractors would stop causing so many unnecessary problems.

    By JDE

    October 29, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

    I’m shocked….the AJC endorsed Obama and Jim Martin!?! Who would have guessed it?

    Polling is skewed, random and done in favor of the Democratic party. They attempted weeks ago to say its a landslide in an effort to sway the undecided from voting either party. The thought process being that the undecided voter would assume their vote wouldnt make a difference, hence they would stay home. Remember when all the major networks predicted Al Gore the winner before the race was even over. They also did everything but elect John Kerry. They finally think they have the best chance in Obama and they’re pulling out all stops to see he wins: which includes ignoring Obama’s past, making a big deal of Sarah Palin trying to fire her ex-brother in law because he tasered his 10 yr old son for misbehaving. Also, notice the softball questions asked of Biden and Obama but the media’s hatchet job on Sarah Palin interviews w/Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson where they edit it to make her look stupid. She’s the Gov of a state and has more leadership ability than the Community Organizer. AJC, CBS, MSNBC,etc..all think we are a bunch of dumb asses who will buy the crap they are peddling. I would not be surprised if McCain wins and dont trust polling numbers.

    By making

    October 29, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

    cc It’s called a war…people die, this crap about 1 more die today…people forget how many died in Viet Nam, WW II and etc. War is not pretty…thank god we haven’t lost more than we have. Unfortunately, once we are of Iraq…we will go to Afgan and Pakistan.

    By actually...

    October 29, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

    actually Al Gore did win. but election fraud from Jeb and Katherine Harris gave us our worst President in history. but that was no problem. but ACORN, something noticed a month in advance(not late on election night as the GOP did it) so we have time to handle it, is a problem. why?if someone truly is a patriot to this country. voter fraud is a problem all the time. not just when your guy is losing. the guy is so bad he makes Carter look great. and I remember ol’ George and ALL the Republicans being completely in favor our his idea to have community organizers when he first took office. of course it was faith based. but many community organizers are faith based. no problem with that if they are trying to help. there was no problem with community organizers then. why now? the main problem in our country today and something that threatens to ruin this country is the fact that too many people put party ideology ahead of what’s best for America. that has to change or we’re gonna be in some serious do-do.

    By dw

    October 29, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

    To cc,

    A good portion of what you said makes good sense and is articulated without the standard blogger jabs. Those jabs although fun to read don’t help give merit to those folks point of view. But, regarding healthcare, you said we already have national healthcare, okay let’s call it government controlled nationalized healthcare that Obama supports. You’re playing the symantics game on that one. You are correct that the middle class pays for the rest. But to think that will “change” is in my opinion wishful thinking. Obama will remove our payments to healthcare providers, but he will eventually increase our taxes and take it that way to pay for us and everyone else. So the ordinary American (and I am one) will pay the bill. As for your thoughts on greed, you are correct, there is way to much greed.

    By making

    October 29, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

    I meant once the troops come out of Iraq, we will send more to Afgan to help secure both Afgan/Pakistan. We will have troops in battle probably for the next 10 years.

    By ron

    October 29, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

    TN Gelding @9:02——-Nothing rash Tn,just certain things that really need to be done.Finding a good hiding place for my guns will be one priority.Deciding what to do with possible capital gains items will be another.I left some money in the market.Not much capital gains now,but when I sell in the future,I have to decide whether to take the loss now or be taxed for the gain later.Since I lose either way,I will probably opt for straight loss rather than a tax loss.

    By LadyA

    October 29, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

    I just ask, after watching an Obama speech vs. a McCain speech - how do you feel.

    Me - Obama: Hopeful that we find unity through diversity - and that we, as a united country can do anything.

    Me - McCain: Confused, fear ridden, feeling that it’s ‘them vs. me,” that the entire world will laugh at us and further alienate us if ‘they’ select McCain.

    By tiff

    October 29, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

    dw, These are all Palin/McCain talking points, we’ve heard them before. If I have survived the past 8 years of Bush economics, i’m sure nothing Obama can do will be as bad as that. As for the racist remarks, you too may be able to take advantage of education reform. You see if you notice in my earlier comment I said some voted against him because of his color I did not say “ALL” you may not be in that category of those who voted against him based on race that’s why I said some. GEEZ, it pains me to have to explain things to idiots twice. And as I do my Scarlet O’Hara impersonation “AS GOD AS MY WITNESS” if I hear another fool say something about 9/11 being linked to Iraq, I’m going to, well, no i’m not going to do that. But as Joe Biden would say “Are you joking, is this a joke” do you still associate 9/11 with Iraq. Someone please send an ambulance to 649 Willow, i’ve just fallen from laughter and I can’t get up. If you can without making a you-know-what out of yourself, explain to me how leaving Iraq will give us another 9/11 when the terrorists are operating in dozens of other countries we are not occupying. They could strike us at anytime.

    By LadyA

    October 29, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

    I just ask, after watching an Obama speech vs. a McCain speech - how do you feel.

    Me - Obama: Hopeful that we find unity through diversity - and that we, as a united country can do anything.

    Me - McCain: Confused, fear ridden, feeling that it’s ‘them vs. me,” that the entire world will laugh at us and further alienate us if ‘they’ select McCain.

    By LadyA

    October 29, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

    I just ask, after watching an Obama speech vs. a McCain speech - how do you feel.

    Me - Obama: Hopeful that we find unity through diversity - and that we, as a united country can do anything.

    Me - McCain: Confused, fear ridden, feeling that it’s ‘them vs. me,” that the entire world will laugh at us and further alienate us if ‘they’ select McCain.

    By JDE

    October 29, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

    ACTUALLY, you are a young idiot. Gore won the popular vote, meaning that more people voted for him than Bush, however, our presidents are elected based on the number of electoral votes they win, which ironically was set up by Democrats. The old conspiracy theory of a stolen election in 2000 is just that, a theory. I suggest you go to class now because I suspect you are a college age know it all. Do your homework before you comment moron.

    By cc

    October 29, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

    wrong again mr. bias. i don’t like war, in general i am against it. but sometimes wars are going to happen and they have to be fought like attila would fight them, or caesar would fight them, or patton, or alexander. total all out! but no more police actions, no more stupid, unnecessary wars like vietnam and iraq. sherman said that war is cruel and the crueler it is the sooner it will be over. actually saving lives in the long run when it’s done that way. but iraq was a stupid war to start that has been handled in a stupid way. we can do better. but never fight a war if you can’t make civilians part of the equation. sherman knew that, the british learned that eventually in the boer war. never go into a war if your not willing to salt their fields, drain their reservoirs or level their cities. a nice war doesn’t work. tip-toeing so as not to offend anybody in war doesn’t work either. all out or nothing at all, that’s where i stand. you go to sadr city and you tell everyone there they are going to cooperate completely you will level their city. and when they don’t comply, you level city. not even a single animal remains alive. that’s how ghengis and attila did it. and you know what? the next city they came to opened their gates and fully complied. that actually saved lives in the long run. letting a guerilla war get out of hand just perpetuates the killing. i could never be a general and give the orders, but that’s how you fight a war.

    and if i really wanted to bring the muslim world to it’s knees it would not be through limited police actions. i would get my allies on my side kinda like we did in the gulf war, i would negotiate if possible and if we couldn’t work anything out i would start a ww11 military type campaign with a draft for all americans being eligible, even the rich and even those in college. that right there would stop a lot of wars. but no war is ever worth fighting if the majority of the people in the country don’t approve a draft. people will always support a defensive war when their land is attacked. but no one would approve a draft for something like iraq. but a true all out war against the muslims should be special forces, paratroopers, cruise missiles, the works in afghanistan. normandy type amphibious landings from the indian ocean through pakistan and landings from the meditteranean sea through lebanon. all linking up and isolating iran and iraq and just plain squeezing the life out of them til they capitulate. that’s how a war is fought. still think i’m a liberal pal? still think i’m for the terrorists numbskull? i’m just tired of the stupid!

    By making

    October 29, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

    I just came back from Europe and the people over there think Obama is a joke and they are scared to have a powerful McCain in office.

    By redneckbluedog

    October 29, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

    Widening for Obama….not tightening. He’ll get over 300 EV’s….

    By making

    October 29, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

    Next Wednesday, Obama will be saying…”Why didn’t I pick Hillary?” and “I should of listened to everyone.”

    By redneckbluedog

    October 29, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

    Income redistribution, marxism, socialism, communism…? If McCain/Palin get elected, let’s try oligopoly, totalarianism, fascism. Hmmmm. Benito Mussolini made Nikita Kruschev look like Ronald Reagan…..

    By cc

    October 29, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

    i hear ya JDE, just a brief time in history ago you and your people would have burned my kind at the stake. just know that i am always against election fraud. there problem isn’t anything that is more un-american. that’s why i am strongly against what happend in 2000 and also strongly against the extremely misguided registrars of acorn.

    By Copyleft

    October 29, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

    Making: Your argument would work if you could convince us that Europe is somehow an enemy that we need to have “scared” of us.

    As for your electoral-vote fantasies… well, the reality has a liberal bias. The electoral count is even MORE heavily in President Obama’s favor.

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/

    By HMMMMM

    October 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

    Good Grief….. You libs are ANGRY people. Oh, and I forgot very smart people. Smart people that get ANGRY when someone else has a different viewpoint…. Well, at least your consistent! :))

    By cc

    October 29, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

    if we had spent all the money that we have spent on the iraq war on america we could easily take care of own. but i know a way that we could resolve this stupid war quickly and everyone would approve of it being over. everyone would be in agreement and we could even let republicans make all the decisions. we take all the people that are still in favor of this war and their children of military age and have only them serve in iraq. this war would be over faster than you can say joe the plumber! that would include all of mitt romney’s kids, john mcacain’s daughter and the bush daughters.

    By HMMMM to

    October 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

    look up the definitions of liberal and conservative in the dictionary and then think about which one better describes closed-mindedness.

    By TN Gelding

    October 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

    zeke

    October 29, 2008 7:52 AM

    If only it were true.

    *conservative candidates who will do their sworn duty to support and defend the Constitution! *

    What planet have you been living on?

    Pelosi and Reid will be history.

    By Mongo

    October 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

    nobody is going to take your guns away from you. if they can you shouldn’t have a gun anyway. but in 2012 when your guns weren’t taken from you are you going to admit to everyone that you were wrong? probably not. just more scare tactics. remember this is America and it’s supposed to be the Home of the Brave. not the Home of the Scaredy Cats. if you love freedom you better start protecting the First Amendment. that one falls and all the others will fall quickly fall behind it like dominoes.

    By Ky-McCain

    November 3, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

    Barrack will destroy the democratic party in four years. Maybe even the country

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