Jay Bookman

By getalife

October 24, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Hell, even Michelle Maulkin thought it was bs.

Drudge has lost all credibility.

Karma in action lately.

By T

October 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

I will be the first to apologize to the imaginary man I called a coward. Let me know when I need to do so.

By Midori

October 24, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

BURN, BABY!!! BURN

The new motto for the GOP

By Scooby

October 24, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Kill the messanger!!

By gadem

October 24, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Nothing never adds up with neocons… A backwards “B”…

But maybe she is trying to start a race war…historically white women have always accused black men of attacking them…maybe she needs to be put in a cell with Susan Smith, and they can compare notes.

By Chip Shirley

October 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

The Lying Racist ‘B’ face woman from Pittsburgh…

Talk about a ‘Lie On its Face’!

There is no way on earth a robber would have carved a backwards ‘mirror image’ of a B on this woman. The truth is that she did it to herself IN THE MIRROR. that is the only explanation. And with a dull butter knife? Please…

So what we have here is a racist hate crime committed by this woman against Black people.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

“Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.”

Guess where that “news” release came from.

Democrat Underground.

And the link to the story that they provide does not say what kookman posted but instead says this:

“We are treating this as a credible report,” he said.

The ATM has a security camera, and investigators were trying to watch the video.

By David

October 24, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

I wonder if another Gwinnett bride will be kidnapped before the election..

By BDAtlanta

October 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Is John McCain stupid, or does he believe we are? That’s the question as he criticizes Barack Obama for allegedly trying to “redistribute the wealth” with a plan to lower taxes on the middle class and raise them on the super-rich.

Of course, the Democratic presidential candidate’s proposal would merely slow down (not fully halt) the less-talked-about redistribution whereby Washington sends middle-class money up the income ladder. Either Republican candidate McCain doesn’t know about this kleptocracy and is the dumbest presidential candidate in history, or he thinks America is too ignorant to recognize theft. Which is it?

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/sirota/

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

TAWANA BRAWLEY ………. SO WHAT ?**

By Midori

October 24, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Andy,

I highly doubt that Jay gets his news from DemocratIC Underground.

You are such a loser.

By JAY BOOKMAN

October 24, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Management, that is flat out wrong.

The excerpt comes from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, the ultraconservative paper owned by Richard Mellon Scaife. The excerpt is word for word from the Tribune-Review account.

By T

October 24, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

How or why do you give yourself 2 black eyes?

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

VOTE OBAMA

“If pigs could vote, the man with the slop bucket would be elected swineherd every time, no matter how much slaughtering he did on the side.” Orson Scott Card, Novelist OINK

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” Thomas Jefferson

“When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” Benjamin Franklin

By getalife

October 24, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Better trolling please.

By E

October 24, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

If Ashley Todd is lying, which looks very probable, she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

OBAMA LEADS IN GEORGIA!!!!!

YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Morningstar

October 24, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

By JAY BOOKMAN October 24, 2008 11:10 AM anagement, that is flat out wrong. The excerpt comes from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, the ultraconservative paper owned by Richard Mellon Scaife.

Yep, Jay’s right lil’ darlins. I went to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review and ‘read all about it.’

Funny who this lady declined medical treatment. Granted my face isn’t what it was when I was 20, but I still like it a lot. I’ve had it since I can remember. Decline medical treatment? When pigs fly.

I think we’ll see more red herrings, muddy water, propoganda between now and the big day than we wish to think about.

By BDAtlanta

October 24, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Orson Scott Card is an ignorant arse. Honestly…and his books suck too.

By RW-(the original)

October 24, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

The story actually says both what Jay B said and what AJC/DNC-M said. Here’s something else it says that makes the story sound even more hinky to me.

Todd told police she handed the man $60 she had in her pocket and stepped away from him. The man then noticed the bumper sticker on her car, which was parked in front of the ATM, and became angry, she told police

If the article accurately reflects her statement to the police she doesn’t say she got this money out of the ATM.

By cranky old man

October 24, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” Thomas Jefferson

If you inherit a trust fund and hire someone to invest it, is that considered work?

The people who complain the loudest about taxes tend to be the same ones who will complain the loudest if the pothole on their street doesn’t get fixed immediately.

By Joey

October 24, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Jay;

Can hardly wait for your next post.

“Duke Rape Victim Releases Tell All Book.”

By Bosch

October 24, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Jay,

You know I’m a pretty big fan of the blog and all, but really, is this story worthy of all this? Couldn’t you have waited a bit until all this panned out one way or another?

Either way:

The event happened as she says - we are all outraged and all demand justice for this poor woman.

The even did not happen as she says - we are all outraged and all demand the girl be put in jail.

Doesn’t that about cover it?

Can you whoop up something real quick about this poll stating Obama is ahead in Georgia and what this could mean for the state?

By RealityKing

October 24, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Does either candidate have a plan for dealing with the large and growing budget hole? No!! Both Barack and John are promising billions in additional spending, spending thats to be offset by some “cuts to other government spending”, none of which are particularly clear.

McCain’s biggest spending cut, $114 billion, is an accross the board spending freeze, very unspecified. The next largest would come from reducing troops in Iraq. Obama’s biggest cut, $156 billion, comes from reducing troops in Iraq, followed by reductions in healthcare costs, somehow. None of which are very realistic in the current environment.

So what is realistic?? Mandatory spending caps are essential to getting a handle on spending. Social Security reform, including an increase in the retirement age and a reduction in benefits. Reduced Healthcare and Medicare costs through more competitive bidding, less litigation and a change in the incentive structure of excess testing. All this combined with large cuts in military and entitlement spending are the only way we will begin to see any real reduction in our national debt.

By Morningstar

October 24, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

By E October 24, 2008 11:25 AM OBAMA LEADS IN GEORGIA!!!!! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN

And the fun has already begun, beginning with voter registration requests. ((State says it sent 747,000 verification requests, not 2 mil))…( AJC Nov 23)…OooKayyyy…little computer glitch there.

Also, 10,000 Gwinnett Co. absentee ballots must be hand counted. Hand counted by whom? Let the fun begin.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Could someone please help me find these things?

Occidental College records — Not released

Columbia College records — Not released

Columbia Thesis paper — not available, locked down by faculty

Harvard College records — Not released, locked down by faculty

Selective Service Registration — Not released

Medical records — Not released

Illinois State Senate schedule — not available

Law practice client list — Not released

Harvard Law Review articles published — None

University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

Record of baptism — Not released or not available

Illinois State Senate records — not available

If any of these have been released I apologize ahead of time.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 24, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

You’re right, my bad, I either read the story too fast or DU changed the link for it.

Shall I now go and type “AJC Duke Lacrosse Rape” into google and see what comes up?

Why bother, huh?

By Citizen of the World

October 24, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Hmmm, Corporal quotes Thomas Jefferson: “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

You know what, maybe he was not talking about taking taxes from those who were willing to work, but taking labor from those who were willing to work —without fair compensation (like the slaves he owned) and giving to the masters (those who would not work).

That certainly was not very democratic!

By mike hussein smith

October 24, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Sure, RW. Columbia College is a predominantly women’s college in Columbia, S.C. Send me a copy of every term paper you wrote in grades 10-12 and I’ll tell you where Harvard is.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

To AJC/DNC Management

Hey, I don’t know what allthat was about but just remember you and I and a few of our brothers admit errors and even point out problems with our candidates …. but they never do.

For them, the end always justifies the means.

By Bud Wiser

October 24, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Hey Corporal, see if you or anyone else here can figure out where these mainstream Democratic ideals can from, as far as the author of the quotes go:

“The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.”

“The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs.”

“The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain.”

“Sell a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man how to fish, you ruin a wonderful business opportunity.”

“The opponents must grant us that youth has never before flocked to our colors in such numbers, … in the end, one will be found among us who will prove that the sword of enthusiasm is just as good as the sword of genius.”

“The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.”

“We’ve got to make sure that people who have more money help the people who have less money.”

Okay kids, times up.

George Bush?

Karl Rove?

Dick Cheney?

Warren Buffet?

Bill Clinton?

No……………………………..the answer is:

Karl Marx.

All except the last quote, which is from Barak Obama. The comparison to the previous quotes is chilling.

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid

By gadem

October 24, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

“The Corporal”, why would anyone want to see a record of anyone’s baptism? Do you want to know when, where, and how he has sex with his wife? You guys continue to grasp at straws…all in vain…even if he supplied all of the documentation required to past your litmus test for him to qualify to lead you, you still would not vote for him…

By RW-(the original)

October 24, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Why don’t you go blog about the poll at the AJC blog that has an article about the poll? I agree with you that this topic is ridiculous, but there’s nothing we can discuss about that poll either. It tells you they polled 615 likely voters and give you no breakdown whatsoever to analize.

By Swami Dave

October 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

If true, I too hope that they catch the perpetrator, convict him, and incarcerate him. However, attempting to associate his violent actions as an indictment of all of Senator Obama’s supporters is certainly lazy if not patently dishonest.

If not, it will highlight the risk to accepting prima facia any story, report, or claim that happens to fall into line with your preconceived notions. One good practice is to introduce some amount of scepticism of any claim. For those things that seem to agree with what you already hold to be “true”, you better introduce some more!

Lest anyone gets excited, this is a human trait to which we all fall victim if we are not wary. Observations that appear to agree with our assumptions are some of the biggest obstacles that we face in making good judgements.

One note for my good friend Jay and his fellow Democrats; the same thing can happen when your preconception is that this “could not have happened as claimed”.

-Swami Dave

By RW-(the original)

October 24, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

mike hussein smith 11:58,

What?

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

To gadem

You are absolutely correct !

If I saw all those things I still would not vote for him ….. but many others might change their minds and not vote for him either and that’s the point.

His personal philosophy is relfected in his writings. Why is he ashamed of that?

To Bud Wiser

It’s very interesting (and amusing) that you included Karl and Barry together in your quotes. Freudian slip?

To Citizen of the World

“If a man will not work, let him not eat”

The Apostle Paul

By Bosch

October 24, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

RW,

But I like THIS blog. Not some OTHER blog. :-)

I know that poll is just a poll, but it’s fun to dream.

By Midori

October 24, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

is there a bigger waste of air and space than Corporal?

to prove to me he isn’t, I DEMAND to see:

his kindergarten sand from the sand box

his cats eye marble from him marble collection

his Publix receipt from the last time he shopped for Tide and Clorox

By Bosch

October 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Midori@12:25,

LOL!!! Good one.

By getalife

October 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Did all you political junkies vote early?

Obama is winning Ga. Wow.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

To Midori

Looks like I got to you ……….. you’re whining.

Instead, why don’t you bebate the issue like has or has not McCain released all equivalent documentation.

If not, then you have a case and I will say that McCain needs to release those documents!

By TW

October 24, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

This is very difficult time for those who have built their belief system around the idea that the Bible is a bludgeoning system, and that being an ingrate makes you a real American.

I hope this woman gets the help she needs – be it legal or medical.

By Dusty

October 24, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Bookman,

What’s the big deal here? Just one more nut case.

If it is true, it was a “nut case” that attacked the young woman.

If it is a lie, then the young woman is a “nut case”.

Any way you read it, it is someone who needs help in more ways than one. Of political importance…it is NOT…

By RW-(the original)

October 24, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Actually Jay could just tack that poll onto this post without even having to change the title.

getalife,

How’s the Senate race going in Louisiana?

By RW-(the original)

October 24, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

The reason leftists want to play up this story is that they feel pretty sure it didn’t happen and it gives them cover to not report acts of violence by Obama supporters that really did happen.

Have you seen Jay B report on the male Obama supporter that attacked the woman in New York for holding a McCain sign? Allegedly.

Of course you haven’t because he knows that story is almost assuredly true.

By Ray

October 24, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Bookman,

If you want a real story about how a lot of us are fed up with things as they are, pull the Columbus Ledger Enquirer web site and read about the guy who shot the kid who stole his wife’s car. We could have some real debate about this little jewel.

By lrd

October 24, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing. - Autobiography of Mark Twain

By Chris Salzmann

October 24, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Hey, even Michelle Malkin, who’s pretty much a right-wing hack is questioning her story. Also, She changed her story, now claiming she was not attacked by the bank ATM machine but by her car. Also, if he was cutting her with a knife, wouldn’t that have drawn blood? What she has on her face is a bruise, not a cut.

My question is, if her story were true, wouldn’t the attacker have tried to carve an “O” for Obama on her face??? Why a “B”?

Just some of the things to her story that just don’t add up. If she’s lying, prosecute her. If her story is true, just lock that guy up in a room with 10 Obama supporters who would be more than happy to teach him a valuable lesson.

By getalife

October 24, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

RW,

It’s a battle. The gop have sunk millions into attack ads for Kennedy and the same for Dems for Landrieu. Ugly ads from both sides.

Jindal did and ad stating Kennedy was a con but actually he was dem.

Here is the latest

She will probably win.

By Shawny

October 24, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

What doesn’t add up is how an ultra-liberal with a democratic congress passes tax “cuts” to 95% of Americans.

By Tonto

October 24, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Let’s compare the “share the wealth” economy of Clinton/Obama to the “hoard the wealth” economy of Bush/McCain. The Dow Jones Industrial average was at about 3,000 when Clinton took office and at 10,500 when he left. So your 401k could have more than tripled in value had you invested in these 30 blue chip companies during the 8 year Clinton Administration. The Dow was still climbing and on June 7, 2001 when Bush signed the tax cut for the rich the Dow closed at 11,091. The Dow is near 8,500 now or a 3,500 point decrease and more than a 30% decrease. Are you better off than you were 8 years ago?

By E

October 24, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

I suggest that the crime was committed by none other than:

Joe the Plumber, in the Library, with the Wrench.

CASE SOLVED!

Obama/Biden ‘08

By SayNo2McCain

October 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

WELL IS THIS INTERESTING:

*Palin will highlight her commitment to families with special needs. More from the Chicago Tribune: “She will call for full funding of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, ‘boost funding for special-needs children from birth to age 3 and allow parents to choose whether federal money for their child is used in a public, private, religious or secular school without navigating a cumbersome administrative process.’ The plan calls for adding $15 billion a year to IDEA, which would fully fund the federal commitment to the 1975 law. That would be phased in over five years, and would be exempted from a federal government spending freeze that McCain and Palin have advocated for on the campaign trail.” *

What about those across the board spending FREEZES?

I guess the freeze will only apply to things that are not of interest to their campaign. Then they want to increase the spending for their specific causes.

If you are going to FREEZE then FREEZE everything.

If not, don’t accuse Obama of saying anything to get elected.

By AmVet

October 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Will Ashley Todd be the next poster girl exposing the evil and liberally biased MSM?

What a hoot.

When I read the description as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes, I also thought of our very own runaway bride who blamed imaginary Mexicans for her “ordeal”!

This sh!t is better than most movies.

Inquiring minds want to know!

By RW-(the original)

October 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Remember when some obscure blogger claimed that al Qaeda wanted McCain to win and Jay B jumped all over it to make it sound real?

Iranian parliament Speaker Ali Larijani said Wednesday that Iran would prefer Democrat Barack Obama in the White House next year. Larijani also dismissed any idea that the US would attack Iran

getalife,

I tend to agree with the writer. If she’s up double digits it’s time to switch to positive ads. Jindal may be right. Sometimes party switchers from D to R are the most conservative.

By Taxpayer

October 24, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Grunt Corporal,

Why do you persist with your claim to want to debate some issue when you never present an issue that you have taken a position on along with your reasons for your stated position. For example, do you think that Obama is not qualified to be president because he cannot meet the requirements. If that is your claim that you wish to debate, then by all means YOU take the time to do some digging and present some viable argument. Dig up a copy of his birth certificate and make the claim that it was forged or present a photo that shows that he loses his powers when exposed to green kryptonite. Something, anything, other than “But, I have not personally signed off on all his records so I don’t trust him,” or whatever.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

To E

Not so fast !

No, I think it was Bill Clinton, in the Oval Office with the cigar.

By Midori

October 24, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

I’m not whining, you idiot

I’m throwing your punk a* WHINING in your face

By J.

October 24, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Her story has changed many times. I have no doubt it will be announced as a hoax. The Pittsburgh police questioned her for 5 HOURS yesterday, and they are bringing her back for more. They know this isn’t real. They’ll get her to crack. She needs mental health care.

That black eye is just make-up. Notice that there is NO swelling at all. A real black eye would be swollen that soon after an attack. And now her bank records don’t match up to her story, either. That girl needs help.

By gadem

October 24, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Well I am pretty sure that the weather was in the 40’s and she said the guy had on a tank top…well that is warm weather attire in my opinion…but what do I know?

By Midori

October 24, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Police: McCain volunteer changes ATM attack story

PITTSBURGH (AP) - Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer who said she was held down by a black man who cut the letter “B” in her face has changed her story.

Police spokeswoman Diane Richard says investigators gave the 20-year-old woman a lie-detector test and are “looking at some inconsistencies” in her story.

The student, Ashley Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.

Police say bank surveillance footage doesn’t show her at an ATM where she says she was attacked.

Todd, who is white, now says she was knocked unconscious and doesn’t remember being cut. She now says she only discovered the wound later.

No arrests have been made.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

To Taxpayer

If it makes you feel better, I wouldn’t vote for you either.

Obama is:

Soft and naive on terrorism. Has very little experience in business or politics. Has the most liberal voting record (when he bothered to vote) in the Senate. Is for taking the lives of unborn children even after they are born alive. Is a socialist (at best) at heart and wants to redesitribute wealth instead of helping everyone accumulate wealth. He is anti-second Amendment. He will work to make law the so called fairness doctrine. And my worst nightmare is the type of “activist” judges he will appoint to the Supreme Court.

McCain is:

Soft on illegal immigration. He screwed up the McCain/Fiengold thing. I don’t like all of his economic plans. And several other things I don’t care for about him that I don’t have time to list. He was not even my third choice as a Republican candidate.

Now, all of that said, the choice is still easy for me.

By Paul

October 24, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

RealityKing 11:46

Another problem for Obama: he was counting on a bunch of additional revenue from a capital gains tax increase. Well, cap gains have just been wiped out. For years. Options are few: raise taxes elsewhere, don’t deliver what was promised, cut elsewhere.

As far as the ‘savings’ realized from Iraq drawdown: I’ve a feeling much of that is in the ‘fun with numbers category. All that should be counted are additive costs – costs that occurred only because of a particular event or situation. For instance, can’t count the cost of the troops’ pay, meals etc as those would have occurred anyway. Well, you can count the cost of the mess hall contractor, but you get the idea. Can’t count the cost of the hours of maintenance and gas for the jets, unless the approved flying hour program is cut.

Besides which, Obama’s going to keep tens of thousands of troops in Iraq, shift others to unspecified locations and dump thousands more in Afg. Heck, costs might even go up.

Social Security reform: McCain’s already taken heck from Obama for mentioning it. Remember, Obama’s camp said he’ll address it – in ten years. But I like your proposals. And would go a step further: not caps, not cuts. Wholesale program elimination. And elimination of all the people, equipment, etc. associated with the program. If Fed gov’t Program A has 600,000 people with a budget of $n million, then we cut 600,000 people from the rolls and $n million from the budget. Not transferred elsewhere.

Midori

Maybe she could be sentenced to a psychiatric facility.

Testing the crab for lunch sounds like a good idea.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

To Midori

Calm down now. This is a debate blog. I don’t want you to have a coronary.

Jay, he made need counseling.

By getalife

October 24, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

She has. One on getting oil royalties and one on providing jobs for humvee modifications to keep our troops safe.

I have not seen a positive ad for Kennedy. His downfall is privatizing Social Security.

By pj

October 24, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Susan Smith, Charles Stuart, The Run Away Bride, The Killers of Emmett Till and others like them? Do you see the common thread? The two cases named on this blog that were Black accusers at least were in the company of those they accused, which at least can be surmised as “he said she said”. The ones I’ve named pulled imagined minorities out of thin air. This Ashley Todd sounds like she’s about to be added to this roll.

Also, it seems to me that a lot of Republicans are jumping on the Obama band wagon. He has not only gotten Powell but now Scott McCellen (former Bush 43’s Press Sec.) and the Granddaughter of Barry Goldwater (the God Father of modern conservatism) who said she is speaking for the entire family. Hummm, Goldwater, the Senator from Arizona from whom McCain inherited his seat and who McCain worshiped. Boy when the ship starts sinking you know what happens. By the time McCain gets back to the Senate (I reverently hope) the few Republicans left won’t be speaking to him. He is at the point where has jettisoned everything and everyone to save his own skin. Even Palin is somewhat putting space between her and him.

By ByteMe

October 24, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Heh. She lied. Breaking news.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Sorry Taxpayer, that 1:33pm post was for Midori

By Taxpayer

October 24, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

E,

I beg to differ with you on your assessment of this crime. If it were indeed Joe the Plumber, then it would have been in the John with the wrench. Joe the Plumber, as with most Republicans who believe that they would be forced to file bankruptcy if they had to pay so much as 30% taxes on $250,000 net earnings, would have been totally out of place in a library. Indeed, he would rather settle on paying a FairTax[tm] of 23% (inclusive) on everything (less their monthly prebate) new that he buys than live with a paltry $175,000 ($250,000 - (0.3 x $250,000)) after taxes or even worse he would rather leave his life as it is now earning about $45,000 and paying payroll taxes out of that. What gives with you “average Joes?” Any of you care to offer up a better explanation of your issues other than the same old whining about someone that you claim is “living off of your hard earned money.” Is it that new math that you were taught in grade school? What?

By ByteMe

October 24, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

pj: You missed a name… Charles Fried, one of McCain’s advisors just endorsed Obama… because of Palin. Heh heh. Enjoy her moment, St. Sarah fans. It’s nearly over.

By Abomi Nation

October 24, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

She doesn’t remember being attacked now? Sounds like she might have been the victim of one of them liberal branding militia’s. They seem to be targeting people who voted for Bush twice. They are carving backward “B’s” into the foreheads of those Bush voting idiots so we never forget. So we never forget how far backward Bush has taken us.

Be very careful Republicans that voted for Bush twice, these people are angry and their numbers are growing daily. Protect your foreheads.

By the Tax Man

October 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, can you please space your paragraphs a little so they are readable?

Or do you want to bend over now and let me kick you in the balls?

By AmVet

October 24, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Bill Clinton of cigar infamy.

A lot of Democrats are still PO’d at him, for that nonsense. And for his Nixon-like attempts to cover it up.

In my opinion, MUCH more than anyone or anything, he gave the presidency to Bush. Ironically just like Bush is about to do for Obama, it would seem.

BTW, to his credit, Gore always said Nader did not cost him Florida and/or the White House.

The difference between the past two presidents is, in my mind, stark and simple.

Clinton betrayed his wife.

Bush betrayed the nation.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Jay

I like that headline for this blog.

SOMETHING JUST DIDN’T ADD UP

May I have your permission to use it after about the first year of an Obama presidency ?

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

To AmVet

Brother vet, if you don’t think Clinton betrayed his country starting with his lies about ROTC, his draft status, going into the military, etc., etc. then you and I will just have to part company.

I have never agreed with Bush on everything but he has kept this country from being attacked since 9/11.

Oh, perfidious nation.

By fearless fosdik

October 24, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Well here is the end of the mystery.

Campaign Worker Admits Making Up Story

A Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Ashley Todd confessed to making up the story & is facing charges!

The McCain campaign is getting desperate.

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html

By CommunistAJC

October 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

JAY BOOKMAN, The only thing that doesn’t add up is you. First you make fun of Joe the plummer and now it’s this woman. What gives? I also remember you and Cynfia MotherTucker blaming the Duke lacrosse team for what? That’s right, a crime they didn’t commit.

By Taxpayer

October 24, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Tax Man,

Since you cannot figure it out for yourself, it was just one paragraph — about Joe, the average Joe, like you, the one that cannot count to one. That would probably explain a lot of your whining though. What do you do each Friday, hand your check over to the lady behind the bullet-proof glass and say “I want it all on Saturday’s lottery except for this six-pack that Sarah said I could have.”

By CommunistAJC

October 24, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

“The Corporal”, You’re wasting your time. AmVet is about as strange as they come. Someone who constantly makes fun of conservatives like Reagan yet defends Clinton. Boggles the mind. I guess he’d rather have a weasel like Wesley Clark running the country. Maybe Amvet lives in a world of appeasement. I’m guessing he loves Jimmy Carter.

By pj

October 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Ashley Todd has been officially added to the list of the infamous “the Black Guy, the Hispanic Guy, The Whatever the Minority Guy” did it club. Surprise Surprise!

By E

October 24, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

ByteMe at 1:41,

She’s a lying b*tch.

Taxpayer at 1:43,

I totally agree.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By fearless fosdik

October 24, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Commie, what is it you don’t understand about a CONFESSION?

She has admitted she made the whole thing up…Easy enought to understand. Don’t you think?

By SaveOurRepublic

October 24, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

The Corporal” @ 1:33 PM - Good points/concerns on the two sides of the same (Globalist Elite controlled) coin…”Juan McAmnasty” & “Bacrock Obuma”. Since you realize they’re both very flawed, why not vote 3rd party (Barr or CP candidate Chuck Baldwin)?

By CommunistAJC @ 2:08 PM - Although he appears to lean to the left, I suspect AmVet is more of a pure Libertarian then Democrat. His bashing of “conservatives” is almost exclusively aimed at phoney” conservatives ie - Neocons/RINOs like McAmnasty. As a *real (paleo)conservative (in the Ron Paul mold), I take serious issues with the Neocons & their Globalist agenda as well…and I lean rightwards.

By Citizen of the World

October 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Communist @ 2:08 — Jay didn’t make fun of Joe the Plummer or Ashley Todd. He merely revealed what had been discovered about their duplicity. That’s not making fun.

By pj

October 24, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

To Communist/AJC: There’s a big difference with “he said she said” and pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Why couldn’t she had said a White guy did it? And in any case why lie on anyone? Women like this make it hard for true victims of crime. She should be ashamed.

By arkansas1

October 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

You know what matters is we have people out their who are willing to do anything in order to blame someone else.

We considered ourselves a nation who is morally outstanding but yet each day on this blog we have many making negative statements about other people!

IT’S TIME TO GROW UP AMERICANS!

Where is HOTATLANTA today?

By AGTFan

October 24, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

And now she’s admitted to making the whole thing up. Another lying Republican…what a shock.

And for all you Joe the Plumber fans. The nonpartisan Tax Foundation reviewed both the McCain and Obama tax plans. If Joe the plumber was to fulfill his dream and and make the kind of money he’s dreaming of, he would pay higher taxes under the Obama plan. He would pay an outrageous $257 a year more. I don’t know about the rest of you, but if Obama is elected the prospect of paying $21.42 more a month in taxes makes me want to give up making a quarter million dollars a year. I might have to stop going Starbucks every day.

By CommunistAJC

October 24, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

SaveOurRepublic, AmVet doesn’t sound libertarian to me. When I read his comments it seems as though he defends the Democrat party. I was shocked that he was defending Clinton being a vet himself. I remember Bill and Hillary loathing the military. I can understand his anger towards Bush. Bush and his dad have helped destroy the old Republican party. Ron Paul was my first pick out of all the choices. I’m waiting on Bobby Jindal. If there is a person who is conservative it is him.

Citizen of the World, Jay Bookman makes quick assumptions without getting his facts straight. That irritates a lot of people. He did indeed mock Joe the plumber. That does bother me because that kind of tactic is Stalinist.

By CommunistAJC

October 24, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

pj, You’re right but let the case play out. If she did lie she should face criminal charges. I just don’t know why anyone would make up something like this. Doesn’t make sense. But then again, the AJC had opinion columns written about how Duke was racist and how those innocent lacrosse players were racist and “white.” I remember reading two opinion pieces by Cynthia Tucker.

By Taxpayer

October 24, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Dang it Corporal,

You can’t just give me a post (1:33) and then just take it away like that. That’s just un-American. I would have been forced to call you an “Indian Giver” at an earlier age but now I have to call you a “Native American Giver” I guess — unless you want to change your mind and give it back.

By pj

October 24, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

What really burns me up right now is the dire consequences her lie could and did cause. Let’s say for whatever her mixed up mind came up with this c** and bull story, why involve this Presidential campaign. In her shorter than usual 15 minutes of fame she received calls from the McCain/Palin offices (possibly from the candidates themselves) and a press release from the Obama/Biden campaign. She has made national headlines and brought back a lot of old feelings on both sides of this issue we hope might someday be put behind us. This is the most important election of our country, facing economic and worldwide woes, two wars, and so many thing to numerous to mention. She should be publicly flogged and made to where the hair coat of shame. With so much happening this is more that a disgrace to our nation.

By Billy

October 24, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

He did indeed mock Joe the plumber. That does bother me because that kind of tactic is Stalinist.

Really? Mockery is Stalinist? Then statements like yours are the biggest breeders of Stalinism there could be…

Obama mocked Joe the plumber? When? Where? In what way? In their initial meeting, Obama seemed nothing but polite…even as it soon became evident that Joe was not an undecided voter but a McCain supporter who had gone out of his way to try and ask Obama a question with which he could trap him. Obama handled the question nicely, in my opinion, answering in clear terms. At no point did he approach mockery.

That all has come after the fact, almost all of it with a vengeance and most of it directed not at JTP but at McCain. McCain, the man who relentlessly attacked the media for destroying the man’s life, even though his life was NOT what he said it was and even though it was McCain himself who mentioned him in the debate. 21 or more times.

You’d think that McCain, after picking Palin, would have learned that he needs to vet the person he is going to make into the centerpiece of his campaign.

By Chris Salzmann

October 24, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Billy,

John McCain and vetting don’t go together. But, with his campaign going from bad to worse, I’m sure there is some wetting going on.

MCCAIN/PALIN: LIKE WATCHING A TRAIN WRECK IN SLOW MOTION.

By RW-(the original)

October 24, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Billy,

How exactly did Joe the Plumber go out of his way to ask a question? It was Obama who showed up in Joe’s driveway.

By AGTFan

October 24, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON – An acclaimed celebrity makeup artist for Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin collected more money from John McCain’s campaign than his foreign policy adviser.

the above doesn’t really matter, bit it’s good to see that McCain has his priorities straight.

By Bob

October 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Dear Red States: If you manage to steal this election too we’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we’re taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren’t aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California. To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss. We get 85% of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share. Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire.

With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80% of the country’s fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95% of America’s quality wines, 90% of all cheese, 90% of the high tech industry, 95% of the corn and soybeans (thanks Iowa!), most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT. With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92% of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you. Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy B******* believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties. Finally, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico Peace out, -Blue States

By pj

October 24, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, Obama was walking down the street and just decided to walk up to ole Joe’s house. Obama was talking to any and all who came up to him. This man ambushed Obama (as if he was undecided and just had a question) made his argument (as if he hadn’t already made a monetary donation to to the McCain campaign) and then felt Obama was talking socialist. This man should have been straight up and said he was a McCain supporter and wanted to debate not just ask an innocent question. Joe the plumber deserves all the unwanted attention he gets. Now he is hawking a book deal(about what, how to snake a toilet properly?). Joe the Plumber is just a symbol of the pipe dreaming American who can achieve the delusion of the rich. The rich get rich and the poor get poorer. That’s capitalism. I truly hope he gets what he wants but he won’t under a McCain Administration. And 1st he needs to pay his back taxes (he not that rich yet to afford the tax lawyers).

By Citizen of the World

October 24, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Hey, Communist @ 2:36, you know what’s Stalinist? Taking political prisoners, subjecting them to torture and holding them for years on end with no charges, no writ of habeas corpus, no due process of law. Sound familiar?

By dw

October 24, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

To the rabid Obama fans. You can have my tax cut if it ever occurs. But on the other token you can pay my new additional taxes when Obama initiates them. Sounds fair to me. You guys like fair. I’m not buying the manure he is selling.

By tiff

October 24, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

It amazes me how happy the republicans were at the thought of a big 6-foot-4 black man attacking a helpless white woman. It was if they thought “oh, now they will all see that all black men are animals and violent” therefore how can we elect a black man to the highest office in the land. I’ve said it before, right here on this blog. Everytime they throw something at this man it bounces off and bites them in the you-know-what. Not that i’m trying to sound racist, because I love my white brothers and sisters just the same as I love my African-American brothers and sisters. But even during the debates McCain tried to push Obama to his breaking point to get him upset, hoping that maybe if he can get Obama to fly off the handle people will see him as an angry-black-man. But Obama flipped the script on him, made him come off as angry, ill-tempered, and down right nasty. All the while staying as cool as a popsicle. That’s why Obama is leading in all the polls. People of this country are not fooled. All of Palin and McCain rallies have been about hate, smear and demeaning democrats. But we shake it off and still show them love. Now I ask you who is the better of the two parties. Now think about how uncomfortable McCain looks in all his interviews with Sarah Palin. He looks at her as if he could take off his shoe and beat the h*ll out of her with it. He hates that woman with a passion. But they play it up for the republicans, because the democrats sure as heck ain’t fooled by this farce.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

By justmyopinion

October 24, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

For the most part “BOB” looks to me like the red states are getting the better end of the deal. TAKE HOLLYWOOD, they’re a bunch of nuts anyway.

By arkansas1

October 24, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Here is the funny comments, Senator Obama may have to raise taxes in general because of the economic state of the country.

But Senator McClain because he is all knowing all truthful states he will not raise taxes but cut taxes. With this economic situation and national deficit the future president will have to raise taxes cut programs in order to get the debt in line.

By "The Corporal"

October 24, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

To Save our Republic

3 WORDS ! Supreme Court Appointments

To Taxpayer

Sorry, but Midori would be upset. Notice, however, he hasn’t replied to that one.

By AGTFan

October 24, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

dw That would depend on how much you make a year. If you make around a quarter million a year, I would consider it. If you make a million a year, no way. If you make less than a quarter million a year like most of us, I’d jump at that deal.

By tiff

October 24, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

By the way “JOE THE NON-PLUMBER” you know the one without a license and don’t pay taxes anyway, confessed that Obama never approached him, never came to his house. But that he approached Obama as a way on kind of putting him on the spot. Well we all know how that worked out. Obama was his usual cordial self. Explainded to Joe his plan, and wouldn’t you know it, this dummy still didn’t understand he would pay less taxes under Obama’s plan. McCain has been trying to make it look as if Joe was innocent, and also trying to make it look as if he was innocent too. Remember McFace was the one who brought up Joe at the debate. He started sending the idiot we now know as “Joe the plumber” on a downward spiral. A man who won’t even pay his taxes and has a lien. But tells Obama that he dreads having to pay taxes under Obama’s plan. Well Duh!!! Just do what you have been doing, and only the blacks will understand this, like Fred Sanford said “PUT IT BACK IN THE MAILBOX”. He claims he wants to start a plumbing business that makes 250k a year “OH PLEASE”, someone get this man a reality check, because he sure as heck won’t be cashing the one he has fictioned in his fat head. By the way Joe I also plan to buy the company I work for by years end. It grosses 750k a year, and on my salary of 40k a year I should just about make it.

By AGTFan

October 24, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

dw BTW I can’t make any kind of reciprocal proposal to your generous offer. If McCain is elected teh economic policies he says he’s going to put in place will take this world-wide recession that we entering into now and move into a depression to make the 30’s look pleasant. Neither America nor the world can afford to have McCain elected. As likeable as he may be, as much of a war hero that he is, his election would be catastrophic for all of us.

By Debate101

October 24, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Tiff,

When I saw the latest interview, I was thinking the same thing. It really looked like he wanted to tell her to shut up or hit her over the head.

I really believe that McCain wished he had chosen someone else. I bet when he looses, McCain will say it was due to picking Sarah Palin. That will be part of it, but being a republican will be the biggest of the two.

Say NO to McCain and Palin.

Hello Barack Obama and Joe Biden 2008!!!! I really need a change, because everyday seems to be the same.

By SaveOurRepublic

October 24, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

“The Corporal” @ 4:51 PM - Thanks for the feedback. While I understand your reasoning, I suspect “Juan McAmnasty” would only add more “Rockefeller Republican”/RINOs to the “Supremes” (ala Sandra Day O’Connor). We need strict adherence to the Constitution & no looking at International law in case decision making by the “Supremes”. Beyond the BS rhetoric, I don’t think there’s a plug nickel’s worth of real difference between “McAmnasty” & “Obuma”!

By @@

October 24, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Something just didn’t add up

So you’ve finally caught on to OBlahMa’s economic fallacies, eh jay? ‘Bout time.

I like to go with the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. That’s one leftists have chosen to ignore in the three years I’ve been here.

If her account turns out to be fabricated, she needs a psyche evaluation.

When it comes to the left-leaning reporters who falsely claimed a McCain/Palin supporter shouted “kill him” at a rally, when in fact no one did — I’d say they’re hearing voices in their head, and should be fired.

By GaLiberal

October 24, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management@11:49 AM said: Shall I now go and type “AJC Duke Lacrosse Rape” into google and see what comes up?

You retard, the Duke Lacrosse was a prime example of overzealous prosecution. There were lots of problems with this case from the start, but the prosecutor wanted a big case so he could run for higher office. And it wasn’t some lie for cheap political gain either. This woman lied to get some play for McCain. How low can you go? With Rethuglicons, there is no telling.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And AJC/DNC Management is living proof.

By MikeB

October 24, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Lets face it both campaigns go for the cheap sensational media opportunities…..

Neither Obama or McCain can claim moral high ground here. Don’t be a horse with blinders.

For every stunt someone supporting McCain pulls, there are at least 3 that Obama supporters have tried……….

Boes breaking into a sitting Govenor’s personal e.mail ring a bell??

Let get past the cheap “unauthorized” campaign stunts……….. Oh, but maybe the e.mail break-in was authorized by the Obama campaign…Hmmmmmmm.

Thats still under investigation……….

McCain/Palin 2008

By Abomi Nation

October 24, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Jay, some liberal terrorists broke into my house today and terrified my family.

Some gay liberation activists were just plain brutal to us. The Interior Designer started re-arranging our furniture while holding us hostage. They made us watch. They filled the room with candles and potpourri. Then the gay activist Hair Dresser styled my wifes hair into a Bee Hive. They made the kids watch.

It was horrible. All because of our 20 or so McCain signs.

By Matt

October 24, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Guys, about this girl with an issue. She is clearly a suicide bomber. She sacrificed herself in a sad attempt to bring on a race war between the two campaigns. I heard, now this is only hearsay, that she ahad a KKK painted under a an area rug at her residence.

If that is actually true then that further shows, in my opinion she had other motives than just saying a black man attacked because I had a McCain sticker on my car. Wouldn’t this be an excelent way to start a race war or introduce the idea into peoples minds that this RACE is all about RACE?

I just hate when the radicals show their a$$ to the media and make the rest of the normal people look bad whether dem or repub. Just goes to show how much tv and the net have an influence on your emotions. Blame and curse and then after the facts are out. More blame and curse.

By pj

October 24, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

To @@: Where have you been under a rock. It was reported and comnfirmed at 4:00 pm EST that the girl lied. Turn on your TV and watch the news.

By CommunistAJC

October 24, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

Citizen of the World, That’s not Stalins style. Stalin would take innocent people and kill them. Last time I checked, islamic terrorist that wanted to blow up our cities didn’t count as innocent people. Go sell stupid somewhere else, troglodyte.

By catlady

October 24, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

No rock too low to go under. That is what the republican party has become.

By Matt

October 24, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Ya know, liberals love to say that conservatives are filled with hate speech and any way to tear down the other candidate. What about Joe the plumber? He was attacked from all sides by the liberal media to discredit him because he asked a question and Obama showed his true self. Whats up with that? BTW, where are Obamas transcripts and the thesis he supposedly wrote? Whay doesn’t the main stream media jump on that? I need an intellegent answer please.

By Matt

October 24, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

Catlady 7:34, remember the tire slashing of republican transportation vans? The e-mail hacking by a democrat senators son is a given. Who stoops lower when it comes to denying another person transportation that they needed to vote?

By jon

October 24, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

The actions of one child craving for attention brings out indictments of everyone that isn’t drinking the Obama Kool-Aid. Sick.

By Matt

October 24, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Catlady 7:34, remember the tire slashing of republican transportation vans? The e-mail hacking by a democrat senators son is a given. Who stoops lower when it comes to denying another person transportation that they needed to vote?

By Jack

October 24, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

It’s time to rout these worthless republicans who have destroyed our nation! Then we need to round up ALL talk radio hosts and their listeners and send them to Guantanamo for torture!! for their treasonous comments and propaganda/fascism Wall Street fat cat crooks need to be hung ala Saddam Hussein!

By Jack

October 24, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

What ABOUT Joe the plumber? He LIED! He WAS NOT ‘about to buy” his company. He had NO plumbers license. He DOES NOT pay his taxes !! (owes back taxes/ has liens) He was on WELFARE/food stamps ! He only makes $40,000. He AND his boss would receive a LARGER tax cut under Obama! So WHAT about Joe, the fake plumber,tax cheat who tried to ambush Obama with LIES and who is now the CENTERPIECE of a FRAUDULENT, LYING , SCANDALOUS McStain dishonorable shampaign!! Oh, and throw in the LATEST MCCain LIE….the FAKE ATTACK victim who scratched her own face and blamed it on a made up black man!! You repubs are a disgrace! and you deserve to go to Guantanamo for torture!!

By Matt

October 24, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Need I say more about radicals? Jack?

By MikeB

October 25, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

Jack

For the umteenth time…… JOE THE PLUMBER DOES NOT NEED A PLUMBERS LICENSE…. THE BUSINESS HE WORKS FOR DOES……. ONLY IF HE BUYS IT WILL HE BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE LICENSE YOU ARE RANTING ABOUT. YES…. HE CAN HOLD A LICENSE WHILE WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT IT IS NOT NECCESSARY FOR HIM TO DO SO….** Got it now???

As for all of your other accusations about Joe the Plumber, go do some research on his appearances on TV this past week. Better yet go roll up your sleeves and try and do what “Joe the Plumber” does for a living… See how hard his job as a Plumber is before you bash him. Who are you anyway……..

THE JOE THE PLUMBER MESSAGE TO ALL: Obama walked down his street….. Don’t want to answer tough revealing questions? Don’t walk downs streets you don’t know Obama….. Regardless of what he owes to who, or how he earns a living….. the Democratic party had no more right to “investigate” (and smear)”Joe The Plumber” than this woman with a “B” on her cheek had to say she was assaulted and robbed…. Get over your self rightious selves Obamaites ……….

He asked an honest forthright question, and finally got an honest answer out of Obama…… Last I knew, asking a question of a candidate was not a crime to be investigated. The answer however incriminating/revealing is the story here. Not the who, what, where’s of “Joe the Plumber”

McCain/Palin 2008