Jay Bookman

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

I think I’ll have to ponder this one for awhile. Might be above my pay grade.

Certainly on face value it’s ludicrous.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

The AJC propagandizes every day against America in favor of radical murderous Islam.

Enough said.

By TW

October 19, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Bigger problem is this:

*One of the interesting trends of the election was that anti-war candidates, not only Mr. Obama but also Ron Paul, were getting more support from the uniformed military than hawkish Mr. McCain. That remains the case. Mr. Obama received $340,400 from members of the uniformed service branches compared to $321,500 for Mr. McCain. Mr. Paul had taken in $213,000 from uniformed service members.

So, nearly half of our active military are anti-American?

Musn’t we demand Patreas investigate the massive infiltration?

By "The Corporal"

October 19, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Jay

50% is a little high. It’s closer to 15% (but growing). Enough to take this country into “socialism” and beyond. Remember, a democracy is the only form of government set up to allow its own self-destruction via the ballot box.

Can you live in America, be a citizen and be anti-American? Is that something that you are insinuating can’t happen? I defer to William Ayers, et al. Many of the millions of hippie-dippy idiots in my youthful days were anti-American and actively supported a foreign army in time of war (Jane Fonda, et al). I saw their glares and sneers at my uniform but unfortunately that’s all the cowards did was sneer as was in their own best interest at the time. Certainly most political disagreement is not anti-American but there is a line that can be crossed.

Nothing has changed from the time of the Tories (probably 25%) to today.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Gelding,

I think Jay B is just taking another cheap shot at Governor Palin for some inartful wording. Maybe he’s got all the Joe “I can answer that with three letters J-O-B-S” malapropisms saved up for a book.

By Dusty

October 19, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Bookman, i don’t follow this introduction. You have quotation marks around anti-American. Whom as you quoting?

To whom and what 50% are you referring? With your political proclivities, I imagine there is something here to be blamed on Republicans, otherwise you would not mention it.

As the Corporal suggested, there is a line than can be crossed. Yes???

By getalife

October 19, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Take that 40% and palin to secede in Alaska.

You can live in a wingnut utopia world.

The rest of us can live in peace and prosperity like the good ole days of Clinton power.

By Right

October 19, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately no context is provided in which to understand or define any of Jay’s statement.

That said, the “real America” we knew as children and during our early adulthood has only recently been, and continues on a slippery slope. This downward slide is primarily due to political correctness, the ACLU, generational government dependency by a certain segment of society, increasing sense of entitlement by the same certain segment of society, and likely socialism, i.e., wealth re-distribution and class envy under Obama!!!!

By By Love

October 19, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

When did this country change from a republic to a democracy? Considering the context of Jays thought, I’d bet that alot more than fifty per cent of us are un-American according to the criteria of the self-righteous right.

One has only to look at Sara Palin to witness the hypocricy of those who draw “lines”.

By By Love

October 19, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Generational government dependency sounds like corporate welfare to me, sense of entitlement and all.

By getalife

October 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Karl Rove estimates that Obama has winning 313 electoral votes

They will call this one early.

Time for our friends on the right to show some patriotism and blindly support Obama like they did with w.

By Amelia

October 19, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

That’s a good one Jay. I think it just goes to show the polarization of this country.

By Amelia

October 19, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah Jay, you forgot to say, “nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong.” That’s an oldie but goodie! If we don’t find some common ground in this country we will never make it. Remember, “united we stand, divided we fall.” Another oldie but goodie.

By GodHatesTrash

October 19, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

My guess, Bookman, is that, between the retards, the racists, the kkkooks, and the kkkrazies, Hensley-McCain will pull it out 4 November.

Never misunderestimate the stupidity and arrogance of the average American.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

I would imagine that after Al Queda gets their hands on Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, we can rely on real mens’ men like Barney Frank and Harry Reid to keep us safe.

I imagine the number will get higher than 50% when the liberals get the right to vote restored for felons and begin to assimilate all the illegal aliens and give them the right to vote - I mean, does it really matter if we are great society so long as they can consolidate their power and get their greedy little paws on the pocketbooks of the evil hated rich?

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Gelding,

Having read Jay’s cryptic comments again he may just be reminiscing about the Two America’s of John Edwards days. Then again he could be talking about Biden saying it’s patriotic to pay more taxes so they want to cut taxes for 95% if Americans. It seems the Democrat ticket wants to be able to say that only 5% of Americans are good patriots.

Nah, it’s still a shot at the Sara’Cuda.

By "The Corporal"

October 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

If you really want to flow chart the decline of this country this is what you will find. We started out as a Republic with a lot of baggage (i.e., slavery for just one). We struggled all through history and finally reached a period (at least on paper - nothing is perfect) of genuine freedom for all, civil rights, prosperity, etc., etc.

Then within a few years of each other we had a plethora of Surpeme Court cases including no more prayer in public schools and abortion on demand (just for starters).

I believe we lost (gave away) God’s blessing of our Judeo/Christian heritage and the graph goes downhill from there.

It accelerates after Columnist George Will said on national television (and we all believed him) that if President Clinton is found to have had sex in the Oval Office with a young subordinate intern, the American people will force him to resign the presidency within three days.

Alas, a liberal Democrat Congress allowed the unthinkable to happen - he stayed.

I could go on but space is limited.

The frog is boiling in the kettle.

By By Love

October 19, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

The only reason there’s a chance that al qeero has a chance at Paks nukes is the criminal and incompetent handling of this nation’s security by Cowboy Bush and his handler, Darth Chinny.

By By Love

October 19, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

“OUR” judeo-christian heritage? Speak for yourself “FROGGY” !!

By "The Corporal"

October 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

To By By Love

Take it up with Jefferson ………

“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.”

Thomas Jefferson - engraved on the Jefferson Memorial.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

“I am a freeman, an American, a United States Senator, and a Democrat, in that order.”

That’s from the greatest liberal of them all, so far, LBJ

I can’t wait to hear BHO…

“I am a black man, a muslim, a socialist, and force to topple America, not necessarily in that order”

And yes, approx. 50% of americans (note lower case) will be enablers of this downfall.

It is sad to see us wind down our final days….

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

OPEC should order a “substantial” cut in oil output at next week’s emergency meeting in Vienna, Algerian Energy Minister and current OPEC chief Chakib Khelil said Saturday.

This is the part, in a normal world, where we would say we are going to increase production as an offset to OPEC’s extortion.

But no, the America haters have cut our domestic production to the bone, I guess because they “love their country.”

But good news is, Obambi will be happy!

He just loves high energy prices.

By By Love

October 19, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

I see the word God, where do you see the words white anglo-saxon protestant?

By Midori

October 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child: I am an idiot, a moron, a lying racist and a bigoted scumbag to boot.

By getalife

October 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Another thought for the day:

“Barack Obama is closing the deal in this election and America is closing the door on the
last eight years of failed Republican policies. The American people have now seen what
both tickets are offering four times, and the choice could not be more clear: Barack Obama
offers the steady leadership we need and more and more Americans agree with every passing day.”
— Hillary

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Wow, Thanks Midori - that means so much coming from you.

It is easy to launch personal attacks when you have no real defense for your words I know, but why don’t you kick back, wait for your foodstamp replenishment, wait for your “stimulus” check (i.e. wait for the gov’t to rob someone like me and give it to you) and watch Oprah and the View and let grown ups who know how to have discussions without resorting to insults have a conversation.

By GodHatesTrash

October 19, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I’m missing something - I don’t remember the part in Atlas Shrugged where John Galt had sex in a trailer park.

By By Love

October 19, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Yeah, let’s drill, drill, drill; and when we run out we can kiss OPEC’s *ses!!!

Typical blind reasoning of the intellectually challenged, here we have a vital ingredient of thousands of chemical processes, and the fools want to keep burning it like coal in an old steam locomotive.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

As part of the Bear’s coverage, I get a Oblahma commercial tying McCain to Bushie.

“I’m not George Bush” stung that as-s, didn’t it?

So what Oblahma says is that McCain voted with Bush on 90% of the legislation.

I hate to break the news to you dimwits but if the legislation made to Bushie’s desk that means it got out of the Congress that you control.

In other words, you voted with Bushie too.

Let’s just add it all up for the moron crowd-

Immunity for the telecoms- Bush, yes. Oblahma, yes.

The bloated spending festival farm bill- Bushie, yes. Oblahma, yes.

The bloated spending festival energy bill- Bushie, yes. Oblahma, yes.

Immigration- Bushie, yes. Oblahma, yes.

Minimum wage- Bushie, yes. Oblahma, yes.

Patriot act- Bushie, yes. Oblahma, yes.

Iraq war funding, 4 out of 5 times- Bushie, yes. Oblahma, yes.

McCain: Why aren’t you stomping this guy’s guts out?

Attack the plumber and spin.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Speaking of thoughts for a the day.

Chicago Annenberg Challenge 115 S. Sangamon St, 3rd floor, Chicago Illinois gave over a million dollars to the Small Schools Workshop 115 S. Sangamon St, 3rd floor, Chicago Illinois and if you count Woods and Joyce Foundation money it’s close to 2 million bucks. We know that Ayers and Obama both sat on the board of Woods, but it’s also notable that Obama chaired the CAC and the Small Schools Worshop was run by William Ayers.

Do you moonbats just enjoy being lied to?

They were probably car pooling when they were waving to The Fruit.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

GodHatesTrash, I love your personal attacks as well - you and Midori prove my point - you can’t do anything except launch personal attacks - it’s all you have left when you can’t use reason to attack an argument.

People like you are the reason why I don’t let my kids play with kids whose parents have Obama stickers on their cars - Stupidity might be contagious.

By Jack

October 19, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC You need a DNC…ha ha ha go get yourself some psychiatric help…you LOSER!!! can’t wait for the landslide to wash you and your pathetic party down the drain …and take “Joe the FAKE plumber” with you!!! with his low-rent , NO TAX paying a$$ !!!

By Midori

October 19, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

It is easy to launch personal attacks when you have no real defense for your words

Read carefully your 3:51.

You’ve just described your 3:51 in a nut shell.

Until you can provide some sort of proof and/or attribution, I STAND BY MY COMMENTS TO YOU

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

The bloated spending festival energy bill- Bushie, yes. Oblahma, yes. McCain, No

Fixed that one for you AJC/DNC-M

By By Love

October 19, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

…and I’m sure they spent that two million on glass bottles, gasoline and rags. What are we supposed to be “afraid” of now? Doesn’t that crap get old, even to you?

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Which part Midori?

The quote from LBJ? It’s all over the internet if you want to look for it.

Let’s look at what i said about Obama:

He’s a black man? Is he not….?

He’s a socialist? In Dreams of my Father, he points out that he was drawn to communist professors and student groups - backing it down to socialist is probably too kind - so perhaps I should have said racist.

He’s a force to topple America?

OK, you got me - this is simply my interpretation of what former Clinton sidekick Dick Morris said when he said “If Obama is elected, it will lead to a multi-year depression”

Finally, he’s a muslime?

My belief is that, if someone were educated in a Madras, and if they were taught to infiltrate and help topple America from within, the very first thing you would be taught is to pretend to assimilate in that country by adopting it’s major religion and denying that you were in deed a muslime - but, even so, why would you pick a church that deed indeed clear the hurdle to be classified as racist (by definition) when you get here.

I stand by my points……

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Let’s see what McCain’s thought for the day is:

I called for tighter restrictions on Fannie and Freddie that could have helped prevent this crisis from happening in the first place. My opponent was silent, and his Democratic allies in Congress opposed every effort to rein them in. Senator Obama’s most notable involvement with the housing issue was taking campaign money from executives of Fannie and Freddie - the very people who were causing the problem.

In tough economic times, higher taxes are not what are needed to bring about a recovery. Senator Obama’s plan will tax half of the income of small business in America. These are the people who added 350,000 jobs at a time when America lost 700,000 jobs. They are the backbone of our economy, and will lead us to recovery. When I’m president, their taxes will go down instead of up, and we’ll help them create jobs for America.

You don’t have to hope that things will change when you vote for me. You know things will change, because I have been fighting for change in Washington my whole career. I’ve been fighting for you my whole life, and that is what I will do as president of the United States.

Huh, he didn’t attack the plumber.

By Mrs.Godzilla

October 19, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

I am Anti ANTI-AMERICAN.

Let’s start with the ANTI CONSTITUTION crowd.

YOU CAN’T GET MUCH MORE AMERICAN THAN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

Gather up the wire tappers, unqualified cronies, torturers, US Attorney firers, subpoena dodgers, influence peddlars, intelligence misleaders, mission accomplished banner buyers, war profiteers, the K Street and Wall Street knuckleheads and anyone who still supports Bush or McCain and you’ll have the nastiest bunch of anti-Americans as the world has ever seen.

By By Love

October 19, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Love Child, you really need to back off on the wood alcohol, I know it’s got a heckuva kick, but if I can quit, so can you.

By By y’all, down to the last hundred laps in Virginia (now how much more “American” can I be? Seee Ya!!!

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

What the Joe the Plumber taught everyone in America is that it’s not OK to ask a question of anyone who is running with the backing of the press or the will do every thing possible to try and ruin you as a human being - It was an honest question from an honest guy - someone who wants to hold the dream of future success out for themselves and you guys act like he is some kind of psychopathic child rapist serving three consecutive life terms - oh wait, my bad, that’s who you want to get registered to vote.

I stand by my call - I will personally add 15-18 names to the unemployment rolls the day Obama gets elected and I call on every other freedom loving small business owner with the means to do the same - it’s “Patriotic”

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Isn’t this just lovely.

These are just the first two names listed with an Obama transition, a pair of Soros-funded hacks.

How much of that 200+ million dollars that Obama won’t report the origin of got to him through Soros connections?

Spreading the wealth so that it ends up in Barry’s hands if you will.

By BDAtlanta

October 19, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

If you don’t eat BBQ at least once a week you are anti-American!

By Midori

October 19, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

and it is MY BELIEF that you are an idiot, a moron, a lying racist and a bigoted scumbag to boot.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Okay, I have a simple, hypothetical situation. Let’s split the country in 1/2 - you can have one side draw the line, the other side decide which part of the land that it wants - that way, they will be very, very equal as far as resources etc.

Then, simply enact two simply forms of government - One, complete capitalism - the other, total socialism. Let each American decide which 1/2 they want to live in, and see what happens.

The only catch is, once you decide, you can’t switch sides. The problem with all of the left leaning bigots is that they need the income from those that lean right to enact all their socialist policies.

Of course, this will never happen, the left cry-babies would never let it - but ask yourself this, if the 5% who pay almost 60% of taxes decide it’s not worth it anymore, how are you going to get your precious “redistribution” money?

When you get 51% of the people off the tax rolls, you can pass any tax increases you want, and never lose your job as a congressman, but what happens when the 49% decide they want to join the other side?

Of course, that would never happen, it would be unfair for someone who already writes the government a substantial 6 or 7 figure check annually to complain about having to pay for even more, right?

I have explained it to my children this way - what if you study your tale off and make a 100 on your math test, but Johnny didn’t study at all and made a 50 - what if your teacher decided it would be in Johnny’s best interest to take 20 points off your test and give them to Johnny - I mean, you still made a B, how can you be angry - and now Johnny has a C! How wonderful. She said, but that’s not fair - I worked hard and Johnny goofed off - …..exactly.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

By Midori

October 19, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

and it is MY BELIEF that you are an idiot, a moron, a lying racist and a bigoted scumbag to boot.

Okay, and it’s MY BELIEF that you:

Can’t Understand Normal Thinking.

By Midori

October 19, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Of course, this will never happen, the left cry-babies would never let it

if this blog is any measure, it ain’t the left crying.

Here or anywhere else……

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Some of you may know Iowahawk as a satirist. He decides to get serious in his thought for the day.

If it’s meta-memes and meta-meta-narratives these media headlice want, so be it. I hope you will join me in expressing a simple bit of solidarity with this guy, Spartacus style. I AM JOE. I am a Wal Mart schlub in flyover country who changes my own oil and unclogs drains without a license. I smoke and drink beer and toss the football in the front yard with my kid, and I figure I can fend my way without handouts from some Magic Messiah’s candy bags. Most everyone in my family and most everyone I grew up with is another Joe, and if you screw with them, you screw with me.

Are you a Joe? Say it proud. Leave it on every g******* newspaper comment section and online forum. Let these pressroom and online thugs know you won’t stay silent when they try to destroy the life of a private citizen for speaking his mind — because for every one of them, there are a million Joe Wurzelbachers. And for that we should all be thankful.

Yes, Iowahawk, I am Joe too.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

It seems like just yesterday that the party of Franklin D. Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy was talking about income equality and civil rights and worker protections and going to bat for the little guy, the blue collar laborer, the everyday Joe the Plumber.

Now, the well-to-do elites who run the Democratic Party — and their surrogates — greet these people with brickbats. They insult them, talk down to them, and even try to destroy them. Isn’t that the sort of war on the working class that Democrats are always accusing those greedy and heartless Republicans of waging?- by Ruben Navarrette Jr.

Attack the plumber and spin.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

Obama/Biden believe that all Americans live in “pro- America areas”, as opposed McBush/Palin who continue to try to divide and conquer, all because they must believe in “Campaign First.”

By Midori

October 19, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Okay, and it’s MY BELIEF that you:

Can’t Understand Normal Thinking.

coming from someone so abysmally abnormal, I consider that a compliment.

thank you.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait to hear BHO…

Dagny @ 3:51 — you are so ignorant that you’re repulsive.

By TW

October 19, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child - ‘complete capitalism’ had to be saved by a socialist style govenmental sweep this fall. Do you live in a cave?

By Midori

October 19, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

NC GOP lashes out at voting sites near Obama rally

again: who’s doing all the crying???

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 2:28 PM

I was aware of the origin of the thought.

But what doees it mean to be an American today? I remember that was a writing assignment in the 9th grade 50 years ago. Wish I had that to review to see if anything has changed.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

To the Corporal— here’s just a partial list of “anti-American” felons, criminals and terrorist-appeasers that you and McBush must be very proud of:

— Richard M. Nixon

— G. Gordon Liddy

— Charles Colson

— Bob Haldemann

— John Erlichman

— Oliver North

— Timothy McVeigh

— Eric Rudolph

— Marylin Shannon, GOP terrorist supporter:

In 1993, John McCain was the keynote speaker at a banquet for the anti-gay hate group, the Oregon Citizens Alliance. Prior to his speech, Marylin Shannon offered a prayer in praise of a woman who shot a Navy veteran and doctor who happened to work at an abortion clinic. The judge who later sentenced the shooter for a string of clinic bombings made it very clear: “You are a terrorist.”

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 3:23 PM

Yeah, Edwards came to mind when I was thinking of a reply.

But heck, he’s only human. Hope he opens his mansion in NC to underprivileged children. Hillary needs to do the same with her digs in NY. They’re going to have to or start paying higher taxes. It’s easy to be critical of others tho. We certainly don’t do enough with our limited resources. Thank goodness there are many altruistic citizens out there working hard every day. The need in this country is hard to comprehend. But then, maybe that isn’t part of being a good American today.

By Dawggy Style

October 19, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

By Dawggy Style October 19, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Constitutional amendment to balance the budget starting in 2009 - Yes or No? Time for YOU to put up or shut up!! I might actually prefer the latter, but, for the good of the country, I’ll settle for telling Pelosi, Reid & Co. to stop slurping at the trough and do something truly PATRIOTIC!!

Goldie,

No answer - Just what I expected out of a windbag! You can dodge a simple question almost as well as The Chosen One. Say hello to your 89 cats for me!

By Midori

October 19, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

why Dagny!!! I didn’t realize you lived in Ohio!!!

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

John McAngry had nothing but praise for ACORN at an event in 2006 — but that was back when he actually stood for something other than pandering and putting his “Campaign First” — when he told the ACORN crowd that “What makes America special is what is in this room tonight!”:

Sen. McCain Stood With ACORN Rally In 2006

Just look at McBush so happily “tearing at the fabric of our democracy!”

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Golduh wants to raise the question of associating with terrorists so she does it by pulling a list out of her rear end that has nothing at all to do with the McCain campaign.

Does this mean the discussion is now open to Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn?

Such brilliance.

By Dawggy Style

October 19, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Constitutional amendment to balance the budget starting in 2009 - Yes or No? Your pal Goldie needs a lifeline!

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

For all the talk of how Obama gets treated at opposition events, look how he gets treated at his own.

By Midori

October 19, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

OMG!!!!

Terry Tate!!

By Ray

October 19, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

To add to your list…..

Bill Clinton John Edwards Cold Cash Jefferson Maxine Waters The Butt Pilot Christopher Dodd That dude from Florida Je$$ie Al Martin Luther King III or IV or something His sister Cynthia Tucker Bookman The fu** New York Times

The list goes on

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Andy-DUH-Management @ 5:55: John McBush himself has “associations” today with G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North and Marylin Shannon — all either criminals, terrorists, or terrorist-appeasers… once again, you’re desperately pulling garbage out of your rear-end to try and defend John McBush’s “domestic terrorist associations.”

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Dawggy — Constitutional Amendment for the Equal Rights Amendment, Yes or No? you f@rt-bag…

By Midori

October 19, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

Yo Dawggie,

why must I feel like that, why must I chase the cat?

BREAKING: HEAD OF CA GOP VOTER REGISTRATION OUTFIT ARRESTED FOR REGISTRATION FRAUD

Ain’t nothing but the dog in you….

By Taxpayer

October 19, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Where have y’all been. Obama wins the election. Meanwhile, Palin goes back to Alaska with her tail between her legs and forms a shadow government for the real America.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Ray @ 6:05 — how does your “list” which includes the names of President Clinton, John Edwards, Chris Dodd and Maxine Waters pertain to The Corporal’s naming of an “anti-American” citizen, his examples given were Bill Ayers and Jane Fonda? Just because they disagree with your point of view, Ray, that’s what makes them “anti-American”? You’re disgusting.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter what I, you, or anyone else thinks - at least TW has the courage to admit that this Obama thing is socialist, so kudos for that - Obama is going to win.

I hope against all hope that you are all right and I am all wrong - I really, really, mean that - but when you take away incentive, why would anyone risk trying to grow a business - This is what I do, ignorant or not, I help grow small businesses into bigger businesses, and the mood among my clients is decidedly pessimistic.

I guarantee you that if you could get a good cross-section of those that actually own businesses and create jobs, you will find a great deal of pessimism about the possibility of Obama being elected - I am sure that each and every one of you own your own business and can’t wait for Obama to take office because it’s going to be all roses and chocolate, but again, you don’t represent a very wide cross-section.

Maybe my clients don’t either, but among approx 85 business owners that I work with, I would say it’s easily 7 or 8 to 1 against in their support for Obama.

One day, we will all see - and I again hope that you are right. I can’t wait to see what happens when the farms start failing because the 45% death tax starts taking them away from the families that run them, and we become another black socialist led state like Rhodesia - Oh, I mean Zimbabwe - wheel barrels of money for a loaf of bread, etc.

You all deserve what you get - I hope you have enough to get you through the other side -

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Golduh: So which buildings did G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North and Marylin Shannon throw bombs at, like Ayers did the Pentagon?

By @@

October 19, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

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By Dawggy Style

October 19, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Goldie/Midori,

Thanks for playing! I’ll jump back between your ears the next time I need some fresh air. Selah.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Andy-DUH- @ 6:23- Why, I don’t know of any buildings they threw bombs at — do you have proof that Ayers threw bombs at the Pentagon, and if so, why wasn’t he ever convicted of doing that?

Also, you may remember that G. Gordon Liddy has frequently encouraged his radio listeners to go out and kill other Americans… and Oliver North was instrumental in Ronald Ray-gun’s selling of weapons to terrorists, and Marylin Shannon only has praise for a woman who killed a doctor and bombed abortion clinics, calling her “a fine lady”…

That’s a sample of the domestic terrorists who John McBush “associates with” these days.

By Ray

October 19, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Gelding,

We have to work hard every day to pay for all of those who don’t. It’s now May before we can go into a net gain for the year. Soon, June, then July and then who knows. Depends on how long the Annointed One stays in office. His programs, give aways, entitlement donations will not go away as soon as they are passed. You might as well get ready for July. A Government program that is enacted into law rarely goes away. Only adds to the multitude of others on the backs of the middle class. Reward for hard work and self reliance? More taxes, more entitlements and more pretending that “change” makes a difference. I am sure you voted for this clown. You and Midori and Goldie and all of the rest of you “spread the wealth” losers like Bookman who think that July is OK. Lets let you give Jamal his six-pack money. I really don’t want to participate.

By Midori

October 19, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

yo, Dawggie,

make sure you don’t step in your own doody on your way out.

woof, woof

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Ayers boasts that he “participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972.” Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Ayers says, “Everything was absolutely ideal. … The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the b******* were finally going to get what was coming to them.”

{{{Liddy’s advocacy of break-ins? Firebombings? Assassinations? Kidnappings? Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?}}}

None of which he ever did.

{{{In 1983, the US sought to provide Iran arms and weapons to kill Iraqis, the Iran-Contra operation spearheaded by Oliver North under the Ronald Reagan administration.}}}

What is not to like?

{{{For those of you who are unaware of who Marylin Shannon is, she is one of the three ring-leaders who are trying to overturn Oregon’s new Domestic Partnership and Anti-Discrimination laws via a referendum.}}}

Is this all you moonbats got?

By Ray

October 19, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Maybe your definition of Un-American is different than mine. Obviously, it is. Clinton gave the presidency a rather bad image when he was impeached for lying to a Federal Grand Jury. Cold Cash Jefferson received, on tape, a 90K bribe which he put into his freezer to hide his fraud from the investigating officers of the FBI. John Edwards lied repeatedly to probes into his personal conduct as pertains to his running for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. The Butt Pilot was complicit in one of the most horrendous financial schemes to defraud the government that ever existed….. ditto Christopher Dodd. Je$$ie and Al…… don’t think that these clowns even qualify for a chance of being an American. Martin Luther King III or IV or whatever…… what a sorry excuse for a human being…. if being American is like him, I want to move to New Zealand. Tucker, Bookman and the NYT….. I’ll let you figure that out. Maxine Waters….. almost gave Franklin Raines a BJ praising him for all of this great efforts in behalf of the less than fortunate. Also cooked the books for about 190M in Un-American schemes to defraud the public and the American taxpayer.
Fonda and Kerry…… they ought to be in jail for all the love for America that they have.
Now that’s disgusting!!!!!

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

DUH-Management— G. Gordon Liddy, convicted felon and non-repentant prisoner for being a domestic terrorist. Oliver North, convicted criminal for selling arms to terrorists. Marylin Shannon, terrorist appeaser and sympathizer for someone who has bombed clinics and was a terrorist.

Not very good company, those “associations” that John McBush keeps, huh DUH????

By gadem

October 19, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

Sad,sad,sad time for America

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Golduh:

G Gordon Liddy was convicted of the Watergate break in, not terrorism.

Oliver L. North was “Indicted March 16, 1988, on 16 felony counts. After standing trial on 12, North was convicted May 4, 1989 of three charges: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents. He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines and 1,200 hours community service. A three-judge appeals panel on July 20, 1990, vacated North’s conviction for further proceedings to determine whether his immunized testimony influenced witnesses in the trial. The Supreme Court declined to review the case.

Marylin Shannon- Has no ties to terrorism.

Ayers admitted to his crimes.

Next?

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

Is there anything we haven’t turned over to polls?

Forty-four percent (44%) of voters have a favorable opinion of Joe the Plumber, while another 41% have an unfavorable opinion and 15% are not sure. Among those following the story, the numbers for Joe are 58% favorable and 37% unfavorable

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

“The Corporal”

October 19, 2008 3:43 PM

I didn’t see anything in there about Judaism or Christianity.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

In that sentence about you spreading the wealth around, there’s another typing error: that “you” should read “I, Barack.” “You” will have no say in it. Joe the Plumber might think he himself can spread it around just fine, but everyone knows “trickle-down economics” don’t work. So President-presumptive Obama kindly explained the new exquisitely condescending “talking-down economics.” Put that in your pipe and solder it.

Evidently the O-Mighty One was not happy after his encounter with Joe. He’s still willing to talk to Ahmadinejad without preconditions. But never again will he talk to Joe the Plumber without preconditions. Outraged at the way the right-wing whackos were talking up Joe the Plumber as if he were an authentic regular Joe, like Joe Biden, the O-Bots of the media swung into action. Vast regiments of investigate reporters were redeployed from the Wasilla Holiday Inn back to the Lower 48.

“We need you down here checking out this Joe the Plumber,” editors barked to journalists.

“Look, you went to Columbia School of Journalism. This is what we bold, courageous journalists do. We’re the conscience of the nation. We speak truth to plumber.”

I’m with Joe the Plumber, not Joe the Hair-Plugger. He’s articulated the animating principles of America better than anyone on either side in this campaign. Which is why the O-Bots need to destroy him.-Sunday Steyn

Attack the plumber and spin.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

“Spread the wealth around” is regular Joe speak for redistributionist tax policy, in which the government takes from the Joes and keeps a fee for handling Joe’s money, then gives it out to other folks who want Joe’s money, so the other folks will love the politicians who run the government and vote for them again and again.

This is a system that works remarkably well for politicians, government workers with fat pensions and others who get Joe’s money. It doesn’t work out for the Joes, but there aren’t as many of them as there used to be. Increasingly, Joes are encouraged to get in the government soup line for what is called “their fair share.”John Kass, Yes, the Chicago Tribune token sometimes Conservative

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

The whole “He’s not a licensed plumber!” non sequitur is really fantastic. So, if you happen to be standing in front of Obama when he publicly reveals his socialism, what does the media do? Demands to see your papers. That’s just delicious, is what that is.-Steyn at the Corner

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 19, 2008 3:51 PM

I think we can agree Bush has greased the slide.

It’s time to try a different approach.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

Another thought for the day might be, whatever happened to the stories about how this was the summer that the glaciers would all be melted?

Two hundred years of glacial shrinkage in Alaska, and then came the winter and summer of 2007-2008

Unusually large amounts of winter snow were followed by unusually chill temperatures in June, July and August

Now it’s easy to dismiss one year as an anomaly, even if we were told by the Gorebots that this was the year of the big melt, but what about the two hundred year trend? What was the best seller among the gas guzzling SUV’s in the 1807/1808 time frame?

Barry didn’t start claiming that the earth had started healing because of him being The One that we was waiting for until this June. However the healing of the Alaskan glaciers does seem to mirror the Governorship of the lovely, talented, and might I add humble Sarah Palin. Take that Obambi!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

I think, I speak as someone who’s operated small businesses in various parts of the world, and I am staggered at the way Americans think you can continue raising taxes on corporations, and then be surprised that those corporations relocate to other parts of the world, and that American businesses end up being bought out by foreign business. I mean, there’s an explicit connection between that. American corporations are over-taxed, and Obama wants to tax them more.-Steyn/ Hugh Hewitt

By getalife

October 19, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

“WALLACE: But, Senator, you voted for the $700 billion bailout that’s being used partially to nationalize American banks. Isn’t that socialism?

MCCAIN: That is reacting to a crisis that’s due to greed and excess in Washington.

And what this administration is doing wrong, and what Paulson is doing wrong, is not going out and buying up home loan mortgages, home mortgages, and giving people new mortgages at the new value of their home so they can stay in their home.

They’re bailing out the banks. They’re baling out these institutions.

WALLACE: But you voted for that.

MCCAIN: Of course. It was a package that had to be enacted because the economy was about to go into the tank.”

Give it a rest Andy.

They both voted for socialism for the rich.

A good indicator of how they will govern and use the cost of the socialism for the rich to cut programs for the people.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 3:54 PM

Think the oil companies might have something to do with it?

Energy independence is a red herring. It’s not OPEC that caused the high prices.

The lovely Sarah is just as big of an extortionist as OPEC.

*The industry, however, warns new taxes are already discouraging future exploration and development in newer, more expensive projects needed to boost waning production in Alaska’s oil patches.

“Clearly, from the investor standpoint, Alaska has become a less attractive place to invest exploration and production dollars,” said Marilyn Crockett, executive director of the Alaska Oil and Gas Association.*

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

By Love

October 19, 2008 4:12 PM

You’re right.

Shouldn’t we be saving some of ours for when they run out?

By "The Corporal"

October 19, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

To Goldie

Being a criminal per se does not make one anti-American.

For example, in WWII the FBI called a temporary truce with the mafia and they (the mafia) ensured there was no German sabotage on the docks, etc., etc.

So, most of your examples (but not all) are false.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

Horsey: You threw a talking points fax from some left wing one man kook organization at me?

~~~~~

al-Gitmo: They are both idiots, I have no quarrel with you over that.

But the plus for McCain is that he has the RW to guide him along, you know, like we did on illegal immigration.

Oblahma, on the other hand, is the tool of some of the most disgustingly illiterate socialists imaginable, he is the wind up doll of the reed/ pelosi contingent, I love it when they speak through him, you can spot them real easy, like when he says he will raise taxes on the big business monster and then punish it for shipping jobs overseas, where, uh, taxes are lower.

And Oblahma just sits there with that calm, stupid demeanor, totally moroned out, all his energy focused on not drooling, has no clue of what he is saying.

I guess if you are lame, that nonsense would make you happy.

Happy, al-Gitmo?

By getalife

October 19, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Yeah Andy,

But keep on trusting them and hope they will change.

I will stick with the number one rule in politics.

Never, ever trust them.

By G

October 19, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

According to Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann (R), Senator Obama, who wants to get us out of Iraq so we can invest more resources into getting bin Laden and crushing Al-Qaeda, is anti-American.

She has also called for a McCarthyite investigation of liberal members of Congress, who she considers anti-American.

Where do the Repubs find all these dingbats?

Obama/Biden ‘08

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: Trusting them would be a democrat White House with a democrat Congress.

Not trusting them would be a Republican White House with a democrat Congress.

Gridlock.

When the government does nothing, America wins.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this

Mrs.Godzilla

October 19, 2008 4:41 PM

You’re right, of course.

For people that claim to be strict constitutionalist they sure do violate it a lot and would like to amend it beyond recogniton as well.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 19, 2008 4:44 PM

As I’ve said before, Joe the Plumber wasn’t dreaming, he was hallucinating.

The company (with one employee) didn’t come any where near making $250,000 a year and he had taken zero steps to prepare himself to buy it. He is still an apprentice for goodness sakes. He and the owner would have benefited from a tax reduction and help with their health insurance as well, something I doubt either of them have.

Patriotic? What about subversive? I’m afraid you’re letting your bigotry define you.

By getalife

October 19, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Good point Andy.

I doubt they will get 60 Senators so there will still be gridlock in the corporate Senate.

I have little confidence in Obama because he voted yes on FISA and the bailout.

He reeks of corporatism and socialism for the rich.

By Danny the red

October 19, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

McCain may not be a bad guy, but he will mean — his victory will mean — the revenge, freezing, frightened, shy, rear-guard America. Rear guard. Not vanguard. Not victorious. Not optimist America.

Bernard-Henri Levy , French Leftist

Also sprach Zarathustra.

By Mr Snarky

October 19, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

I guess there’s an ideological test as to whether or not you’re “pro-american”. Sounds facist to me…keep it up Palin, you continue to sow the seeds of your destruction.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 19, 2008 5:00 PM

They pay 60% of the INCOME taxes.

And many of them, Democrats and Republicans, are more than willing to do it for the good of society and the country as a whole. They understand and appreciate the opportunities they had and the protections they receive.

That said, we need to get some of the folks that have been eliminated from the tax rolls back on, myself included. We were dropped to facilitate cuts for the wealthy, who in many cases didn’t want them. Bill Gates’ father representing a group of them appeared before Congress arguing against eliminating the estate tax, for example. Warren Buffett recently testified he wan’t taxed enough.

You’re too rigid in defining success and failure. Certainly we need to address the root causes of poverty and dependence.

By Danny the red

October 19, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

Many Obama supporters in US claim Obama represents an overcoming or leaving behind of the cultural fights of the 1960s and therein lies his real importance.

Actually this is misleading. It’s more correct to say - with Bernard-Henri Levy - that he represents the victory of one side of the battles of the 60s (needless to say, the side that is victorious is not the side AJC/DNC Management is on). (“[Obama’s election]would mean really the end — and the complete victory of the battle begun in the ’60s. No. 2, because it will mean the end of a new American evil, which is the dividing, the Balkanization of American society.”)

Perhaps now we can start to understand the ferocity of the attacks on Barack Obama that we’ve seen. Yet at the same time, it’s also somehow surprising that those attacks have not been more organized and sustained, that they have been so ham-handed. There really is a tremendous amount at stake.

By Danny the red

October 19, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

It sounds so beautiful to my ears that I just have to hear it again:

Barack Obama’s election as president represents the total victory of one side of the battles of the 60s. And conversely, that of course means the total defeat of the other side - in exactly the same way that the segregationists for example were doomed to defeat and disappearance in the CIvil Rights era.

And yes, that does have something to do with race. Something very direct, in fact. Nay, it has everything to do with race, but not the way the racists want you to think. It only has to do with race in the sense of race’s overcoming.

Mmm, what a nice word, overcoming.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

Midori

October 19, 2008 5:20 PM

They sure don’t want folks to vote.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 6:01 PM

Tough crowd. But at least no blood was spilled.

By Danny the red

October 19, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

Anatomy of a self-betrayal, as described by Frum:

*Had McCain offered a meaningful economic message early on, he could now say: “I want to solve this crisis—and I know how. Barack Obama just wants to use the crisis to sell a lot of destructive social programs that nobody would accept if they had time to think about them.”

The moment at which such a message became impossible for McCain was his decision to embrace the full re-enactment of Bush’s tax cuts.*

By "The Corporal"

October 19, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

Headline:

“FBI already vetting members of next administration to make sure staffs will be ready for national security threats.”

I wonder if the FBI will have as much trouble trying to clear Obama’s staff as they did Clinton’s ……….. all of the drug use, arrests, subversive activities and contacts made it real difficult.

Same is true of Obama. He can be president but he couldn’t get a top secret clearance (due to Ayer’s and his admitted cocaine usage) to be his own bodyguard.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Ray

October 19, 2008 6:40 PM

I don’t know what Congress is thinking.

Other than getting reelected. If we can’t pay for the govenment we have then they’ve got to reduce it. With the wealth in this country I think we can, but they aren’t willing to do it.

Have you noticed that as the economy has lost hundreds of thousands of jobs over the last 7 months the number of government employees keeps increasing?

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

gadem

October 19, 2008 7:28 PM

What a campaign ad it would make.

Colin Powell should be horsewhipped for letting Bush/Cheney compromise his integrity and destroy his reputation. He possibly could have saved us from the last 7 years, 8 months and 29 days of tragedy. But then, when you seek the highest political office in the land, you need the support of your spouse.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 8:08 PM

Great satire.

I thought it was the Dems that filibustered this bill?

By TN Gelding

October 20, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 8:56 PM

I wish the AJC had endorsed the “chosen” one to give you even more heartburn.

The next president needs to appeal to corporate America’s patriotism as well. We can consume all we produce and then some as long as they keep us working. The tax rates are high, but there are plenty of loopholes and adequate profits even with the high rates.

That said, we definitely need tax reform. But Congress isn’t going to give up its power to pick winners and losers easliy.

By GMAN

October 20, 2008 1:26 AM | Link to this

What Joe the Plumber taught us is don’t let John “Mr. Magoo” McCain mention you 28 times in a debate in an attempt to make points. Though every news outlet in America will attempt to interview you, they will also dig into who you are. Fifteen minutes of fame can turn into Fifteen minutes of embarrassment in no time at all.

Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s futures… and losing!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 20, 2008 5:21 AM | Link to this

How about them Devil Rays?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 20, 2008 5:28 AM | Link to this

“We’ve always known that gas line was going to be trouble,” said Phillip McIver, 32.-Urinal/PMS

They just known it!

It just wasn’t the type of trouble they were expecting.

Explosion? Fire? Great stinking clouds of gas?

The pipelines’ owner, Alpharetta-based Colonial Pipeline, wants to lay down a third line to unclog the choke point between Baton Rouge, La., and Atlanta.

A third pipe, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 20, 2008 5:33 AM | Link to this

Investors brace for bottom!!!-Urinal/Doom and Gloom

We are?

Why didn’t I get the memo?

What does that mean anyway, “bottom,” “bottom” of what?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 20, 2008 5:36 AM | Link to this

Charities feel economic pinch- Urinal/Doom and Gloom

Now here’s one I totally agree with, for I have seen Senator Plugs and Senator Government’s tax returns and they ain’t been coming off the hip for no needy people.

They do their charity work with your money.

And their charity, haha.

By r murphy

October 20, 2008 5:39 AM | Link to this

The election is coming. The historical moment of our national history, except maybe for this, the first President of the United States of America election, is among us.

We have a choice of a Republican team- McCain/Palin, which consists of a bonafide Vietnam War hero, which is most commendable. Also, who happens to be the oldest man in history to run for presidency. Who also believes we can keep the war going, win, and still make the economy work. He also has twenty-two years experience at Washington. But at the debates, he does not come off as a gentleman when he will not look at Obama during the time.

With Palin, from the far away state of Alaska. First woman to be a vice president and wants to be the President of the United States also one day. She and the “Maverick” think they can handle the world. Though she herself has a closet from being the Governor she has had rattled once or twice, legal issues. She has much confidence in herself.

On the other side, a man who makes less noise. But people listen. The first black man to get this far in the nomination of presidency. He is also the man who has background of Muslim surrounding his family, at the time we are in Iraq. Changes are to perhaps of no war and to finish Afghanistan. He talks of strengthening the economy. I would think no war, already saves us billions every month and save our soldier’s lives, but how hard is it to stop a war? It seemed easier to begin one. He has two full years of junior Senator experience and a past of characters who keep being questioned.

He does have Biden with thirty- six years experience, and for a man who much to say in the past, he keeps rather quiet these days , while Palin loves the light. He is Obama’s vice president hopeful. And he is the one who usually says what is on his mind, and I have no idea why he quiet during the circus going on.

My bet is on Obama winning. I think we maybe ignoring the fact we should listen to Biden. With two years experience of Washington for Obama, I foresee Biden suggesting much to Obama. Biden is probably the one we should be hearing more from.

Even if I believe Obama will win, between the two sides, it is the first time, in my life, I am this close to the election to date and I have no idea on who to vote for

Colin Powell said yesterday he would endorse Obama. I wish Colin Powell were running instead. The one man I feel confident and trusting to, still stays in the background.

By Staying Home '08

October 20, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this

r murphy @ 5:39 Clearly, English is not your first language. Because if it is, I would get a lawyer and sue whatever school system you came from. That said, both of these candidates are deeply flawed, and neither has the stuff to lead us out of the darkness. At best, they would be a caretaker president, as we wait for someone to materialize that can truly put the bitterness and hatefulness behind us. It could be a long wait.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 20, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

Someone asked why Munoz had come to the rally. “I support McCain, but I’ve come to face you guys because I’m disgusted with you guys,” he said. “Why the hell are you going after Joe the Plumber? Joe the Plumber has an idea. He has a future. He wants to be something else. Why is that wrong? Everything is possible in America. I made it. Joe the Plumber could make it even better than me….I was born in Colombia, but I was made in the U.S.A.”

The scene turned into a mini-fracas when David Corn, of Mother Jones, defended press coverage. Munoz was having none of it. Why, he asked, would the press whack Joe the Plumber when it didn’t want to report on Obama’s relationship with William Ayers, the former Weather Underground bomber? “How come that’s not in the news all the time?” Munoz said. “How come Joe the Plumber is every second? I’m talking about NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN.”-National Review

Attack the plumber and spin.

By E

October 20, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

Whatever happened to McCain economic advisor Carly Fiorina? For awhile she was all over the place, but she isn’t out there anymore…..

Obama/Biden ‘08

By hillbilly ragger

October 20, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

It sure is a Deep Thought, Jay.

I’m glad on one level that Sarah has made these ridiculous statements, because it gives me a chance to unload on a pet peeve of mine that shouldn’t be a pet peeve at all, but a matter of fairly grave concern to all—the notion that it’s acceptable within the Republican party to treat entire chunks of America as alien territory. Ever hear a Republican speak of “Massachusetts” as if it were a dirty word? How about their constant whining about “San Francisco values,” as if the hard-working, prosperous citizens of that city were somehow immoral?

(I realize that others in this comments thread may have made this point already, I don’t really have time to read the hundred-plus entries to find out. Just felt like adding my American voice. )

By TN Gelding

October 20, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

r murphy

October 20, 2008 5:39 AM

Please review McCain’s military record.

By Taxpayer

October 20, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Post away, hillbilly ragger. You and others give some of us something to look forward to reading after scrolling through page after page of duh trash.

By TN Gelding

October 20, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

I was reflecting on Palin’s appearence on SNL, and she was true to character. She thought the skit was over the top so didn’t fully participate, just like she announced at the beginning of her debate with the real Joe that she wasn’t going to answer the questions. And of course with Couric she wouldn’t say what periodicals she read, but a week later told Fox she read the NYT, WSJ and the Economist.

By Taxpayer

October 20, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

By the way, did those poor people up in Minnesota realize what they were getting when they voted in that Bachmann character. With the Republican candidates, it’s almost impossible to tell what you are getting until after the fact given the lies they’re willing to spew in order to get elected.

By hillbilly ragger

October 20, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer, thanks. I’m thinking seriously of bailing out on this whole posting-as-a-character-on-the-Internets thing once the election is over. I wrote a bit about it on my crummy blog if you’re interested in my rationale; it’s a work-in-progress.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 20, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

This is the most perverse statute of limitations I’ve ever heard of. Who the hell cares that Obama was just a kid when Ayers was in league with murderers and America-hating crazies? Using this logic Obama would be free to hang around with Dr. Mengele if he were available, as Dr. Joe’s terrible work was done before Obama was even born.

The fact that Obama is allowed to slip his responsibility on this one using a transparent non sequitur demonstrates again, as if another demonstration were necessary, the double-standard that exists in the left-stream media.-AmSpec

Attack the plumber and spin the domestic terrorist.

By Tom

October 20, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

Watch the weak Republican minds grow more bitter and hateful with each passing hour. Character assassination driping from their jowels - tis all they know. Crash- McCain and Sarah more crazed.

But it is time to begin a slight celebration. George Bush is nearly gone. Soon gone forever. America’s most spectacularly incompetent footnote, the drunken, oily residue left on the pavement after his corrupt administration’s giant Hummer of ineptitude is finally hauled to the crusher. No matter how bleak things seem right now, rejoice in the knowledge that he can never be president again. Tho Joe SixPack will forever attempt to resurrect his kind to further destroy the Nation.

By Taxpayer

October 20, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

hillbilly ragger,

I’ll check it out. Meanwhile, the only reason I post at all is to help spread the word about some of the Republicans in office and some of their policies. Phil Gramm and people like him paved the way for some in the financial industry to nearly wipe out nations. I see that Ben Stein even finally saw the evil in CDSs when left unchecked in his latest column. Then, there’s the hidden destruction wrought on us by the Republicans with their attitude about the environment. Some of what I have seen them do right here in Georgia just plain sickens (no pun intended) me. Just look at Talmo and LHR farms and Philip Services Corp. for starters and they’re just the tip of the trickled-on iceberg. Then, look at legislation passed by the Republicans that allowed these things to happen so their backers could make a buck off of an unsuspecting public. Some of these Republicans bring new definitions to words such as scum and trash.

By GMAN

October 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Boy there’s a lot of whining from the wingnuts this morning! Mr. Magoo and Elly Mae are going down in flames and the tears of the right can’t put out the fire. Now they want to throw the same General Colin Powell that they trumpeted as someone they would vote for as president under the burning bus. It really shows you who your friends are. I suggest that all the progressives on this blog get out their umbrellas and galoshes because there’s going to be a flood from all this crying!

By hillbilly ragger

October 20, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer, I appreciate your willingness to get deep into the weeds on these financial issues. I googled “Talmo and LHR farms and Philip Services Corp.” and didn’t come up with much… was there anyplace in particular I should start?

And do you have/are you considering starting a crummy blog of your own?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 20, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Barack Obama’s advantage over John McCain in the presidential race has again widened to 10 percentage points among registered voters, 52% to 42%, in Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Oct. 16-18.-Gallup Website

Registered voters, bwahahaha, yeah, Mickey and Minnie Mouse anyone?

ACORN rules!