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Gen. Powell endorses Obama

Colin Powell, appearing on “Meet the Press” this morning, endorsed Barack Obama as a “transformational figure” more prepared than John McCain to address the issues confronting our country.

“I strongly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president that will not just continue, even with a new face and with some changes and with some maverick aspects, will not just continue basically the policies that we have been following in recent years,” Powell said.

“I think we need a transformational figure, I think that we need a president who is a generational change, and that’s why I’m supporting Barack Obama. Not out of any lack of respect or admiration for Senator John McCain.”

However, Powell did criticize McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate, noting that Palin would not be prepared to assume the presidency. He also expressed unease with McCain’s response to the economic crisis.

“Almost every day he had a different approach to the problems we were having,” Powell said.

U.S. Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., immediately announced plans to investigate former war heros, secretaries of state and chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for possibly anti-American sentiments. (OK, that last part isn’t true. At least it wasn’t true as of 10 a.m. Sunday morning. But I bet if you wait a few hours….)

UPDATE: “John and Dagny’s Love Child” at 10:38 wins the secret contest!! You just knew someone would go there, and J&D was the first! Congratulations!! Because as everyone knows, with Colin Powell it’s ALL about race!

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By GodHatesTrash

October 19, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Powell’s eloquent endorsement

By Middle-Aged White Lady

October 19, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

I am ecstatic about Powell’s endorsement for Obama. Powell’s stature adds a significant measure of “heft” to the Obama campaign. I am confident that Powell’s intelligence and perspective would be a tremendous asset to the Obama administration as well, should Barack select him as a cabinet member or advisor. I am also pleased to see that he specified the selection of Palin as VP as one of the main reasons he chose to not endorse McCain. That clearly politically-motivated choice will come to haunt McCain, whichever way the final tally goes on Nov. 4th.

By GodHatesTrash

October 19, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Still Another Reason to Vote For O’Bama

Good morning boys and girls! Happy Sunday!

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Gen. Powell stated that he had many reasons that he may have chosen either candidate to vote for, and he has chosen “That One!” He decided that he supports the “tranformational figure” that America needs right now, and not the angry old white dude with his lying “robo-calls”!

Bwaaaa!

By GodHatesTrash

October 19, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Bachmann’s opponent has raised almost $500K in the last 24 hours…

Some people are tired of kkkooks and kkklowns.

By ByteMe

October 19, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

New Sunday drinking game for the blog: take a swig every time someone on the blog uses “RINO”.

Heh heh.

What I found most interesting was the interview after the MTP appearance. He spent nearly 2 minutes ripping into McCain campaign’s negative campaign distractions as being not good for the country and not good for the impression other countries get of our country when that negative nonsense gets played on Al-Jazeera. “Anti-American”, if you will. A similar tactic used against Iraq war protesters, by the way, but it must be hard to see it thrown back at the Republican Party.

Of course, had he thrown his support behind McCain, the rightwingnuts would be crowing today. But he decided to put his country before his party, so now they’ll make excuses and claim he’s doing it because he’s black or not really a conservative (read: fascist) or some other nonsense.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

And now we’ll witness the typical trashing that the right-wingnuts will hurl at that “socialist appeaser” named Colin Powell… let the ugliness begin.

By Mia

October 19, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

God bless you, Gen. Colin Powell!!! You’ve put us over the top!!!

Normally, I’m not emotional in any way, but this morning, when Gen. Colin Powell gave the most brilliant, insightful, and glowing endorsement of Barack Obama and laid out the most common sense reasons why EVERY AMERICAN should vote for him, I couldn’t help but well up with pride at what courage and passion he displayed. Gen. Colin Powel is a great American hero and probably the most respected moderate Republican in America.

How anyone could continue to listen to the disgusting, vicious smears coming out of the McCain campaign, or even consider voting for John McCain, after hearing and digesting the very clear and crisp endorsement of Barack Obama from such a great and good man is simply beyond me! McCain represents the same failed polices, same old philosophy, same dangerous temperament, same ridiculous lack of intellectual curiosity that George W Bush displayed over the past 8 years. Barack Obama will be a break from all that nonsense. He will usher in a new era of hope, peace, and prosperity. It won’t be easy, but he can put us back on the right track. He is, quite literally, our last great hope!

America may be down, but do not count us out. Hope is making a comeback and positive change is blowing our way!

GO OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Colin Powell is wise to be leery of Sarah Palin, what with all her and Todd’s “Palin around with terrorists” in the Alaska Independence Party:

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”— Joe Vogler

We should all be verrry afraid of the anti-America pals of the Palins…

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

I don’t think that anyone will say anything about Colin Powell except that its sad that a man, even with his high level of integrity, can see nothing but race.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Dagny @ 10:38 — are you speaking about yourself, that you “can see nothing but race?” Is that the problem? And if that was true about Colin Powell, then why has he never endorsed Jesse Jackson’s or Al Sharpton’s previous presidential campaigns???

By GodHatesTrash

October 19, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

When did John Galt visit a trailer park?

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

The Dem Party of Colorado has its own “Joe Martinez the Plumber” and here’s some text from their ROBO-CALLS going out to their voters this week:

{{“…During this week’s debate, Barack Obama talked about cutting taxes for middle class families like mine, lowering health care costs for everyone and bringing the change we need in Washington. John McCain ignored the issues and used the debate to launch false attacks against Barack Obama. In fact, McCain - for the third debate in a row - didn’t even say the words ‘middle class’. So, take it from Joe the plumber, if you want a president who will put middle class families first - join me in voting for Barack Obama. Paid for by the Colorado Democratic Party….”}}

By Just_Me

October 19, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

“Love Child?”

How ridiculous that accusation is. Had that been the case, he wouldn’t have waited until NOW-just over 2 weeks, to endorse Obama.

I guess this is what the right wing will wheel out as their excuse for losing someone they had banked on.

Pat yourself on the back-you’ve proven that the right’s issue for not voting Obama is linked to RACE.

By Just_Me

October 19, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

….Hmm, thought of this while it was waiting to post…and heaven knows, you can’t stop this server, lest it print your post seven billion times….

…Anyone who truly LISTENED to Powell’s reasons for supporting Obama would agree-the GOP has moved away from what most mainstream Reps feel. I can’t tell you how many of my life-long rep friends have told me, “for the first time, I’m voting for a democrat.” The choice of Palin also was a reason for Powell, and as a lifelong friend emailed me, sent her over the top, especially after viewing the debate performances of both republican candidates.

The knee-jerk reaction, as Brokaw accurately pointed out will probably be the one the Ol Love Child espouses. However, it doesn’t ring true-the GOP has become to shrill, too ‘right” for the mainstream GOP voters apparently.

I guess there will be some serious gnashing of GOP teeth come Nov., 5th…..

By AmVet

October 19, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

I suspected that as soon as this endorsement was announced, some of the more repugnant, far reich-wing nut jobs would attribute it to Gen. Powell’s pigment.

It took less than a half an hour.

You’ll hear this echoed a lot by the “compassionate conservatives” during the next 16 days, I suppose.

Some of the non-progressives will seemingly never be able to follow one of my heroes advice to: “Let us judge each other not by the color of our skin but by the content of our character”.

Let the Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth begin their newest campaign!

The GOP’s Southern Strategy, aka the Cracker Factor - still alive and well in the Moron Belt…

By GodHatesTrash

October 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Good posts, Mia and Just_Me.

The problem, of course, is the “mainstream” of GOP politics runs right through the sewer of paranoia, hate, racism, xenophobia, homophobia, femiphobia, and anti-intellectualism that has fueled the rise of the GOP since Joe McCarthy.

No matter who wins in November, the battle lines for our politics for the next several years have been delineated - decent people versus the kkkooks, kkklowns, and knuckledraggers remaining in the GOP.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Lie After Lie: What Colin Powell Knew Five Years Ago Today, and What He Told the World-Huffington Post

Unfortunately, Congress has never investigated Powell’s use of the intelligence he was given. Even so, what’s already in the public record is extremely damning. So while the corporate media has never taken a close look at this record, anyone can go through Powell’s presentation line by line to examine the chasm between what he knew, and what he told the world. As you see below, there’s quite a lot to say about it.

Let’s just remember: Colin Powell is one of the major reasons we went to war in Iraq. In his 2003 United Nations speech, he perpetrated one of the biggest frauds in the history of international diplomacy - a deliberate and calculated fraud that, in terms of its blood-and-guts ramifications, dwarfs major scandals like Watergate. Sure, there were certainly other Bush officials who helped get us into war. But to deny that Colin Powell was a major factor in sending us into a war based on lies is to quite literally deny that the sky is blue.-Daily Kos

There have been a number of interesting discussions on DU in the past 24 hours, regarding the unconfirmed rumor that retired General Colin Powell is preparing to endorse Senator Barack Obama this weekend. Powell is, of course, an unpopular figure among progressive and liberal Democrats, and for very good reason. More, DUers are prone to view Powell as less trustworthy than a rattle snake – again, for very good reason.-democrat underground

Attack the plumber and spin.

By CHIP S

October 19, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

SAXBY CHAMBLISS HAD SEX WITH ALIENS!!!

The Aliens landed in his yard and he had sex with them. It’s really that simple. Saxby Chambliss has not denied having sex with these Aliens! Why Not?

……………………………….. 28 Years of Republican Economics…

No matter what you think of Bill Clinton you have to say that on economics he was with the Republicans. Even Alan Greenspan has said that, in terms of the economy, Bill Clinton was a Republican, because he signed the free trade deals that the Republicans had sought forever and which were passed by almost all Republicans in congress. If you consider Clinton a Republican economically, then we’ve had the last 28 straight years of Republican economic policies, Bush, Bush Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Reagan.

28 years of lessening corporate regulation, cutting social programs, cutting spending on public works, lowering taxes on the top 1% allowing more and more free trade and illegal immigration. Look where we are now.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

I couldn’t have said it better myself, general.

Didn’t Powell just reiterate what we’ve been saying here?

By Ackmed

October 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Yesterday, after thee ACORN voter registration drive, thee Iman called and told us to hurry along to thee Baghdaddy, where we were supposed to meet with Mookie’s army so we could whine and moan about the Bushie no surrender in Eyeracki plan.

It was a very nice demonstration, I got to meet all of my favorite “reporters” from the New York Times, thee Urinal/Jihad and thee al Jeezeery. I have many autographs that I will cherish until thee blessed martyrdom!

There was much talk among thee Mahdi army ragheads about thee Obambi presidency and thee return of thee prophet Mohamed to thee Earth. They said that if they could blow up enough women and children between now and thee election day, thee Urinal/Jihad would blame McBushie and thee American people would elect thee Muslim.

Such happy are thee days on thee streets of Iran!

Well, I have to go now, blessed readers, thee Iman has issued a fatwa for some guy named Joe thee plumber.

We have much work to do before thee election!

Allah Akbar!

Yes we can!

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Too all - I make all my decisions based on personal economic impact - I don’t see any color, except maybe green - which candidate is going to allow the doers in the country to keep what they earn and which candidate wants to rob the doers and give to the slackers -

I believe that we need a strong defense. Obama does not. I believe in rewarding hard work and success - Obama does not.

At the end of the day, socialism has failed everywhere it has been tried, and the fact that you view Obama as the second coming of Christ is not going to change the fact that it cannot succeed here.

It is interesting that you all take shots at my character, without addressing what I say. It convinces me that I am right, you can’t build a defensible position without attacking someone else’s character.

I have paid more in taxes each year than the average citizen earns - and I have done so with no regrets - except that I regret the way that the drunken sailor republican administration has spent over the past few weeks.

There is no love for McCain/Palin from me, and I will hold my nose when I vote - but Obama is not now, nor will he ever be, the answer.

Surrendering to Al Queda, surrendering to the Taliban, insulting a hard working plumber, wishing to sit down with terrorists and despots with no pre-conditions at an executive level, suggesting that we take Russia to the security council over Georgia without understanding that Russia has veto power and would prevent any real progress from taking place,makes this so.

The fact that France, Russia, and Saudi Arabia want him in office should set off red-alarms -

When you look at the average supporter - Acorn is signing up inmates in prisons, college kids who have NO idea what real life is like, underachievers who have never asked anything except what can I do to force those who have more discipline in their lives to surrender what they earn to me - it turns my stomach. To quote his idiotic wife in reverse, For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed to be an American.

You guys all have such lovely socialist states you could retire to - Cuba, North Korea, all fun, fun places where the gov’t takes care of your every need, I don’t understand why you don’t just head on over - I hear its Nirvana.

I am calling on every small business owner in America to lay off as many people as possible the day after the election to prove what a loser this guy will be.

Live off your savings until we beat the other side into submission.

By CHIP S

October 19, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

SAXBY CHAMBLISS HAD SEX WITH ALIENS!!!

The Aliens landed in his yard and he had sex with them. It’s really that simple. Saxby Chambliss has not denied having sex with these Aliens! Why Not?

…. 28 Years of Republican Economics

No matter what you think of Bill Clinton you have to say that on economics he was with the Republicans. Even Alan Greenspan has said that, in terms of the economy, Bill Clinton was a Republican, because he signed the free trade deals that the Republicans had sought forever and which were passed by almost all Republicans in congress. If you consider Clinton a Republican economically, then we’ve had the last 28 straight years of Republican economic policies, Bush, Bush Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Reagan.

28 years of lessening corporate regulation, cutting social programs, cutting spending on public works, lowering taxes on the top 1% allowing more and more free trade and illegal immigration. Look where we are now.

By SayNo2McCain

October 19, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management - man you have serious issues….

General Powell has graciously made the “CLOSE” for Senator Obama and I want to Thank him for it. He’s the one republican that most in his party say they would vote for as the first black president, I hope those people get the message that General Powell is truly a great man and provides a true assessment of where his party is headed.

Obama/Biden 08

By ByteMe

October 19, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC: Thank you for reminding me. My earlier post forgot one more thing that the rightwingnuts would try today: attack the messenger as being “uncredible”.

You take it to a new level using a liberal site to rebut something that you believe to be true, which is that Colin Powell helped make a good case for the Iraq War. Of course, having no shame, you would try this, thinking we would actually give your cut-and-paste any seriousness.

Congratulations! You have been mind-melded to the Republican Party, since it’s all about party over truth and country.

Have you made your reservations to move to Canada yet?

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 11:16 AM

I thought Gen. Powell’s endorsement had sent you back to bed.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

I believe that we need a strong defense. Obama does not. I believe in rewarding hard work and success - Obama does not.

Dagny the Ignorant Love-Child — Barack Obama believes in a strong defense, so much so that he’s willing to draw down our occupation of Iraq in order to concentrate on pursuing growing terrorist operations around the world… we can’t do that with John McAngry’s determination to keep our occupation going in Iraq forever, just in order to continue protecting the Big Oil interests there!

And Barack Obama believes in the middle class of America, so much so that he wants to reward them more with tax breaks for their hard work and success — the hard work and success that has made the upper 5% of American taxpayers so wealthy during the past 20 years!

With John McAngry’s continued support for W’s “trickled-on” theories of economics, the wealthiest 5% only get wealthier and then move American jobs overseas for even more profit… where have all our American jobs gone during the past 8 years, Dagny???

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

SayNo2McCain: Those were your words about Colin Powell that I posted, moron.

For me, I’m just proud that Powell has finally shed his Uncle Tom status and has now been returned to his rightful place among our respected and cherished war heroes.

I didn’t think you libs would ever stop ragging on him.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Hey, I just thought of something-

If Condoleeza Rice wants to become a great American and a national hero, instead of a slimy turncoat, all she has to do…………..bwahahaha.

Attack the plumber and spin, morons.

By Bosch

October 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Wow. General Powell said it all as far as I’m concerned. He said what many feel - the Republican party is way too narrow, both in mind and spirit.

What an intelligent and humble man.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

It is interesting that you all take shots at my character, without addressing what I say.

Dagny the Ignorant— your very first post claimed that Colin Powell’s endorsement of Obama was because he “can see nothing but race.”

So, why not answer my question to you @ 10:49? If what you say about Powell is true, why has he never endorsed Jesse Jackson nor Al Sharpton during their bids for the presidency?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Quickest way for Bushie to get his fake approval poll numbers up, anybody?

All he has to do is…………bwahahaha.

Attack the plumber and spin, morons.

By Bosch

October 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Goldie, ByteMe, and TN,

Did you watch Powell just a while ago? What a true American hero. All I can say is just, “Wow.”

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

DUH-Management, I pretty sure that it’s obvious to most everyone here who the “moron” is, and who continues to “spin” here day after day, just to try and hide your embarrassment in supporting John McAngry… you sad pathetic Bush-kisser.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Bosch — yes, I watched Powell right from the beginning of “Meet The Press”, tapping my foot with anticipation… how exciting to have him finally take a stand against the Repug Party!

By Mike

October 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

“UPDATE: “John and Dagny’s Love Child” at 10:38 wins the secret contest!! You just knew someone would go there, and J&D was the first! Congratulations!! Because as everyone knows, with Colin Powell it’s ALL about race!”

Can Bookman be more of a hypocrite? He and Tucker inject race into everything.

Jay: If you are tired of people injecting race into everything, maybe you should stop injecting race into anything. Then you won’t be a hypocrite.

By Road Scholar

October 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC: I watched the entire speech that Gen Powell gave to the UN. His body language and delivery relayed no confidence in what he was saying. Those were my thoughts then and today. He is a loyal warrior who followed the lead of his Commander in Chief-Pres Bush, even though he had doubts. He did his duty once the decision was made by the person who had the authority- not him- the President (or was it Cheney?).

He probably did it ( I do not know all- like you appear to think you do) to protect the armed forces to try to affect the directions which came from above. Unfortunately, he couldn’t protect them from the poor decisions which came in the wars’ first 3 years.

By booger

October 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

I have a feeling that John and Dagny would also take random clangings of a wind chime as further evidence he was right.

By Dennis

October 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

We’ve known for two weeks that Gen. Powell would do this. Is it news? Only because we now have dozens of 24 hour news-less outlets that need something to talk about.

And of course we all need to blog.

By ByteMe

October 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Ok, Sarah Palin’s cold open was amusing, but not as good as the weekend update.

That poor moose.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Brilliant tactical move by the General, as usual, he has always known how to prepare the battlefield.

Now he is set to return to politics, something he could never have done with the goony drive by media calling him a snake and an Uncle Tom.

Congratulations Colin, you shocked and awed them again.

By SayNo2McCain

October 19, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Managment - you are the MORON, because I have NEVER made one negative statement about General Powell. Reason: I knew that with Bush and Cheney, he was STUCK between a ROCK and a hard place, when it came to dealing with those MORONS.

General Powell made a statement this morning that I really appreciated. It was when he spoke about McCain and Palins supporters questions/attacks regarding Obama being Muslim. He said, “Why shouldn’t a muslim child” dream of being President. General Powell said, why did it matter if he was a Muslim…….

WHY does this matter at all? Just for the record, I am a southern born christian of the baptist denomination and I have been asking people the same question.

I’ll say again, I really appreciate all of the points that General Powell put out in the open today.

By Abomi Nation

October 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

If it was all about race why didn’t Powell run for President in 2000 and/or 2004 so he could vote for a black man?

By Bosch

October 19, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Do you remember our conversation Friday, I think? Powell is such a class act, and that endorsement to me, was his “tell all book.” He’s not the type to write a damning essay, but his words said it all.

Have you seen the latest Saxby ads which he implies Martin killed children? What a shameless and gutless imp of a man (Chambliss).

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Could Mike @ 11:53 be more of a bore and a hypocrite at the same?

Mike, Where exactly did JAY “inject race” into this topic for today’s discussion? I must read and comprehend the English language different from you… what I read are direct quotes that Colin Powell made on TV this morning, and it has nothing to do with race. You’re obviously very embarrassed by the racist comments being slung by your own Party’s supporters here, and you choose to project your embarrassment onto others with your boring hypocrisy.

YAWN… how boring once again, Mike.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

UPDATE: “John and Dagny’s Love Child” at 10:38 wins the secret contest!!

It’s a breath of fresh air when Jay B admits that the whole point of his post was to race bait. At first I fell into the trap of thinking it was about highlighting that the same guy that said in 2000 that he was endorsing Bush and Cheney because they would be great for America now saying in 2008 that he was endorsing Obama and Biden because they would be great for America.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

ByteMe— I think that Palin was not very amused by the moose-shooting skit. But just think how much worse it would have been if SNL chose instead to show a WOLF being shot from a helicopter by her!

Defenders of Wildlife Asks Judge to Shut Down Palin’s Wolf Bounty Program

By old91A10

October 19, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

The endorsement from Coward Powell seals it. I made the right choice in voting for McCain & Palin.

I stripped Powell of his rank, and conferred him with the tiltle of Coward when it turned out that he knowingly lied about WMDs and more. Of course, he would equivocate and stretch out his pseudo-apologies which adds to his disgrace and possible treason. I have no doubt that among Powell’s ulterior, and possibly greatest motives, are regaining political influence and cleansing public perception.

Coward Powell, knowingly and more than anyone else sold us a bill of goods with the tiny vial in which I could fit his and Obama’s abilities to protect and defend The Constitution. If Powell had been a guest at the Hanoi Hilton, he would have probably volunteered for the NVA.

By Bosch

October 19, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

ByteMe,

I watched SNL last night (I do every Saturday night), but I thought the opening was pretty damning to her.

I think she was probably pretty disgusted with the whole thing, you could see the contempt on her face. She probably thought she was doing herself and the campaign a favor, but to any independent out there, it wasn’t very pro-Palin. But then again, this is SNL we’re talking about. She was probably thinking the whole time, “These idiot liberals, what I must do to accommodate my team.”

How about those “Pro-American” parts of the country statement? Wow, that speaks volumes and I hope the elite liberal media plays that every few seconds for the next couple weeks!

Brian Williams has an interviewed lined up with McCain and Palin next week. I wonder if it will be separate interviews? Probably not.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

If John McAngry wants to declare to Obama that “I’m not George Bush” like he did during the last debate, then why didn’t he himself choose to run in 2004 against Bush instead of throwing his support behind Bush and his policies???

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 19, 2008 10:38 AM

Yeah, he’s just another Uncle Remus. NOT!

By Dawggy Style

October 19, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

I think Colin Powell would have been an excellent choice as McCain’s VP! Having said that, I do believe that his rushed public endorsement of Obama after being coy for several months shows some legitimate concern and vulnerability currently felt by the Obama campaign as we head into the last two weeks of the race. Powell has a long and distinguished record of accomplishments and deserves the respect of all Americans!

Now, if Obama will bring Warren Buffett on board to manage Congressional spending like his business holdings, then we can talk about some REAL CHANGE! Anybody believe that’s going to happen?

By getalife

October 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Well, Andy is still posting so I guess he is not the unstable old man that bombed the lawyer in Dalton. Had to be a dangerous kook wingnut like Rudolph.

Condi’s career is close to over so she should endorse him too with many gop following their lead.

I think we will know our new President around dinner time on election day.

They will call it early for Obama winning easily.

By AmVet

October 19, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

The long, long summer of neo-con discontent has turned into their unavoidable fall from grace.

And the deserved, unending misery continues for these ugly, hemorrhaging neo-cons as Gen. Powell endorses a Democrat, though he served three Republican presidents.

The debate is over. (Gawd, I just love Joe Bidening Al Gore.)

The hate-mongering, southern, white male, reich-wing bigots, so well represented here, will NEVER have another chance to further ruin this country with their dreadful anti-conservative policies.

One remaining question though, is how many of you worst of the impotent, fake conservatives will have a nervous breakdown on or before November 4th?

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 19, 2008 10:38 AM

Keeping your green and a strong defense aren’t compatible.

Bush has been spending like drunken Democrats.

Please retract your statement about laying off workers. Surely you’re a bigger person than that. Give him a year and if you still feel that way go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

I stripped Powell of his rank, and conferred him with the tiltle of Coward when it turned out that he knowingly lied about WMDs and more.

Old 91 @ 12:10 — so I’m guessing that you’re also conferring the title of “Coward” on John McAngry because of all the lies he told because he wanted America to invade Iraq so badly???

By Abomi Nation

October 19, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Colin Powell vs Joe Lieberman

This would make a great debate. They could tell America why they switched allegiances.

It would be great theater to see Joe the Senator sitting next to General Powell. Lieberman would get trounced. Lieberman and his stale message supporting the current regime vs Powell and his message of a new direction.

This dream debate would create an Obama landslide.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Now, if Obama will bring Warren Buffett on board to manage Congressional spending like his business holdings

Dawggy — you do know that Warren Buffett is already one of Obama’s advisors, don’t you?

By Mike

October 19, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Well, are liberals going to question Powel’s judgment?

I mean he was THE cheerleader for the war and now the left hails him as a hero. Of course, liberals on this board have a tendency to embrace anyone who attacks their hated enemies, so I should’t be surprised.

By ByteMe

October 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Goldie and Bosch: Palin seemed pretty put-off by some of the stuff in the cold open. It’s hard to fake the tightness around the mouth if you’re not an actress… so either she’s a good actress (possibly her only real claim to fame) or she was stuck doing something she really hated doing. I think she was having more fun with the weekend update part.

Goldie: relax. It was a comedy show! The writers scored their points. Amy’s HUGE! I thought she was going to knock over the dancers with her belly.

By Mike

October 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Time Magazine’s Mark Halperin admitted that the media is in the tank for Obama on today’s “Reliable Sources”

HOWARD KURTZ, HOST: Mark Halperin, we learned this morning that Barack Obama in the month of September raised $150 million. The earlier estimates had been about a hundred. They always kind of leak a lower figure so they can exceed it. If a Republican had not taken public financing, and had raised all that money, and the Democrat was struggling financially, wouldn’t we see a lot of stories about one candidate essentially trying to buy the election?

MARK HALPERIN, TIME MAGAZINE: We would. We would also see a lot of stories about his going back on his word saying that he would accept the public money and would reach out to Sen. McCain to try to work out a deal. So, I think this is, this is a case of a clear, unambiguous double standard, and any reporter who doesn’t ask themselves, “Why is that? Why would it be different if it were a Republican?” I think is doing themselves and our profession and our democracy a disservice.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Tell us again how Barry didn’t know anything about Bill Ayers other than passing him at an intersection once?

Obama’s review of Ayers’ book says, “A searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair.”

Just a few weeks before this review was published in the Chicago Tribune, Obama and Ayers appeared together on a panel about juvenile justice organized by Michelle Obama on November 20, 1997:

The downside is that poor Zombie’s cover is sure to be blown when the Obama goon squad leaves Toledo and heads to San Francisco to rough her up for this. Let’s hope she doesn’t have any outstanding parking tickets.

By Abomi Nation

October 19, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

If John McAngry wants to declare to Obama that “I’m not George Bush” like he did during the last debate, then why didn’t he himself choose to run in 2004 against Bush instead of throwing his support behind Bush and his policies???

Pure Gold.

By ByteMe

October 19, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

No, Mike, we’re going to leave questioning Powell’s judgement to rightwingnuts now. Seems only fair.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Bosch

October 19, 2008 11:47 AM

Yeah, I watched it.

But don’t get too excited. The RNC will have an emergency meeting and replace McCain.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

ByteMe — I agree that there was some humor in the moose-shooting skit while Palin looked on… and what I saw on her face was the look of some bad indigestion!

By ByteMe

October 19, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

RW: If Bush had had all the experience and associations with terrorists that you want to attribute to Obama, perhaps he would have been able to find bin Laden by now and understood that blowing up people only creates more terrorists.

Perhaps all these supposedly damning “associations” you want to play up have a plus side for America.

“Vote Obama and he’ll know from personal experience how to find the terrorists!”

By G

October 19, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

General Powell is a man with intelligence and class. I’m glad he has publicly endorsed Senator Obama.

He was lied to by Bush, Cheney and Co., just as we all were.

I hope they will be prosecuted for war crimes.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

By Road Scholar October 19, 2008 11:55 AM AJC/DNC: I watched the entire speech that Gen Powell gave to the UN.

Take it up with the moonbats, stooge.

I could never understand why we had to spend a year and half explaining to a bunch of Euroweenies why Iraq needed to be wasted anyway.

It was people like Powell that helped Saddam Hussein ditch his WMD, the Europeans and Russians to make their last couple billion starving the Iraqi children for oil and for all of the lib “human shields” to realize we weren’t playing around.

So much lost opportunity.

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By getalife October 19, 2008 12:17 PM Well, Andy is still posting so I guess he is not the unstable old man that bombed the lawyer in Dalton. Had to be a dangerous kook wingnut like Rudolph.

Yes, al-Gitmo, what a terrible thing that was, he blew himself up so now he will never have the chance to serve on a board with Oblahma.

So much lost opportunity.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

“wouldn’t we see a lot of stories about one candidate essentially trying to buy the election?”

No, Mike @ 12:35 — the premise Howard Kurtz puts forward is wrong. American voters donating MILLIONS of $$$ to a campaign is not “trying to buy the election” — that would be a candidate like Mitt Romney or Steve Forbes who inject MILLIONS of their own $$$ into their own campains in order to try to buy an election.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Uh- oh:

RCP National Average 48.8 43.8 Obama +5.0

Like kookman said, just a few short days ago it was 7.3%.

And it was supposed to be going up because of McCain’s “awful” performance at the debate.

So what’s up, y’all?

Attack the plumber and spin.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Isn’t Hair Plugs a Catholic?

DENVER (AP) - Denver Roman Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput labeled Barack Obama the “most committed” abortion-rights candidate from a major party in 35 years while accusing a Catholic Obama ally and other Democratic-friendly Catholic groups of doing a “disservice to the church.”

Attack the Archbishop and spin.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

* ByteMe*

October 19, 2008 11:56 AM

Great stuff, thanks.

Maybe she is human. Wonder if Powell saw it?

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Abomi — McBush and the Repug Party keep putting out these false premises in order to distract from what McBush is really offering America. Just like they’re also claiming that because Obama is able to raise historical amounts of campaign $$$ from AMERICAN VOTERS, he must be “buying the election” — good grief, the stupidity from the right-wingnuts never ceases to amaze.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Goldie

October 19, 2008 12:13 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

Didn’t want to take on an incumbent?

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Gawd I hate this freaking server

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ByteMe,

My apologies if my other post ever appears, but the point is that Obama is a bald faced liar, not all that bs you spewed. I’ll put the rest in a different comment in case it’s just MM being censored here.

By "The Corporal"

October 19, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

General Powell long ago became a political animal as they say. Many generals do - especially those desiring four star rank as they are closely scrutinized for promotion by Congress.

I would like to see instead a secret survey of every general in the United States Military to see how they would vote. That would be very interesting indeed …………..

P.S.

If private Obama is elected be prepared to see a Joint Chiefs of Staff made up of politicians instead of warriors.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

writer Barack Obama

Sounds like Ayers wants to give Obama some cover since he knows who really wrote that book.

You’ve also got to love the line about Ayers just being some guy in the neighborhood now that you know Obama was described the in the very book that he wrote about in the Chicago paper the same way

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

ByteMe

October 19, 2008 12:41 PM

If Powell hadn’t associated with Bush/Cheney he’d still have his reputation.

I meant replace McCain with Powell in the above. Why do we always have the wrong candidates to choose from?

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

More GOP mischief?

By TW

October 19, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Why are the RNC and the 527s not stepping up to the financial plate for McCain? Same reason the Vegas line is Obama -1000?

The only ‘support’ anyone throws McSame’s way is the kind that doesn’t cost them anything (much like rightwing morality). Sure, the loudmouths and the wingnuts abound, but an eerie quiet falls from the right when called upon to put their money where their mouth is.

Instead of crying about the Obama machine coming up with the coin, McSame might simply ponder why his product has no value.

bwa.

By ByteMe

October 19, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Actually, RW, my point is that you’re being paranoid and delusional about these so-called “associations”. There’s no “there” there. Never was.

What I care about is the economy, pure and simple. Not some overblown links from long ago, whether it be about crashing planes or standing in someone’s living room.

Without a functioning economy, we as a nation can’t move forward. We can’t sustain our defense infrastructure, we can’t help those who need the most help, we can’t improve our education system.

McCain has no clue and no interest in the economy. None. If he did, he’d have a plan that addressed the problems and a vision that would including changing the tax structure to help the people who need it the most while still trying to raise more revenue for the government so that we can stop borrowing from Asia already.

Obama has a tight circle of economic advisors who have been there, done that and wrote the books about it, including several past Treasury secretaries and Warren Buffett.

Who seems to take this more seriously? That’s who is getting my vote.

Terrorist “associations” are just a distraction that you’ve gotten caught up in. Enjoy the view from the paranoid side of life.

By old91A10

October 19, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

@ Goldie October 19, 2008 12:29 PM

Coward Powell, by his own couched and duplicitous admissions, had the contradictory information few others were privy to. Powell knew he was lying as the crap flowed from his mouth. As such, across the political spectrum, politicians, military personnel, and ordinary citizens were duped.

Apparently, either you were and continue to be duped, or are now prepared to mitigate it for political expediency.

By justmyopinion

October 19, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Whose Colin Powell?? LOL

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Goldie - In answer to your question about why hasn’t he endorsed Jackson, Sharpton, et. al - I don’t know, could it be that they were never a credible candidate? If he had, the obvious would be evident - here, he can accomplish his mission and still look credible to some.

TN - My goal of strong defense and loving the green are NOT incompatible - A tax system like the fair tax is a way to insure that everyone participates in the american way - and funds our ability to create strong defensive posturing - A missile defense shield is a real need for us - Pakistan is on the verge of collapse to forces aligned with Al Quaeda - achieving in a coupe what we fear - a nuclear armed terrorist - with delivery mechanisms no less - But don’t worry, I am sure Uncle O will invite them over for some milk and oreos and get the whole thing under control.

Stop wasting money, stop letting congress and the media control battle, let real men go win wars and stop pretending that losers and college students know whats best for the country.

TN - I am sorry, I refuse to be punished - I made a decision last week to stop seeking new business for us and will be drawing down employment as the initiatives are completed as I feel an Obama-nation is a foregone conclusion- I have already accepted a new position running the consulting division for another player in my industry, where I have the right to keep my income exactly 1% below whatever the highest tax threshold gets lowered to.

I will be able to defer all other compensation to a later date, when, after we enter a four year depression, the nation comes to its senses and elects someone with better fiscal plans that Comrade Obama….

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

* AJC/DNC Management*

October 19, 2008 12:44 PM

At the time, all Saddam was guilty of was supplying live training for our high-tech flyboys.

And the last place al Qaeda would have reared its ugly head was Iraq, because they knew they would get it cut off.

WMD? This is the guy that at one time was trying to develop a “long gun” that would have a range into Israel.

By dw

October 19, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

How can Colin Powell claim to still be a Republican and give his support to an ultra liberal Democrat? He should atleast be truthful and admit he is now a Democrat. What’s the deal? 1) convinced that allah will favor him with 40 virgins in heaven 2) a post in an Obama cabinet 3) i’ve lost my mind 4) wants a guy with no military background to one with a military background 5) wants a guy with no experience, other than running for president 6) age biased 7) race biased 8)smooth talking biased 9) smooth walking biased … 10) b.s. biased

By Dawggy Style

October 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

That was my point for bringing Buffett’s name into this discussion. I know that Obama has dropped Buffett’s name as an unspecified “advisor.” Now kindly go back, read my question re: uncontrolled Congressional spending and then tell us what we already know! (And please spare us the crap about the deficit being strictly a by-product of the Republican war effort).

By AmVet

October 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Let’s see if I have this correct.

One of the far right wing nut jobs plays the race card at 10:38 to “explain” Gen. Powell’s endorsement of Sen. Obama.

Though Powell made NO mention or inference to it whatsoever.

When Mr. Bookman, like myself, pointed out this typically disgusting behavior, he is stupidly accused of “race baiting”, though his article also made no mention or inference to race whatsoever.

As is true on so many other topics, I think the these faux conservatives do not have even the basic comprehension of the term or concept down at all:

Race baiting is an act of using racially derisive language, actions or other forms of communication, to anger, intimidate or incite a person or groups of people, or to make those persons behave in ways that are inimical to their personal or group interests. This can also be accomplished by implying that there is an underlying race based motive in the actions of others towards the group baited, where none in fact exists.

Projection - an nearly universal neo-con hobby…

By @@

October 19, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

COLIN POWELL’S A SOCIALIST????

I’m glad I had the opportunity to watch “Bush’s War” on PBS. Since I’m not one who looks back dragging the past behind as if it were some burden, I watched and thought to myself: “If Colin Powell was so convinced that the war was a bad idea, why didn’t he step up, putting his job security aside, and do something to stop it before it started?”

It was said in the docudrama that he didn’t want them (Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld) operating alone without his expertise. But yet? there he was following their lead.

Nope! McCain took Bush’s strategy, turning it around into the success it is today — the success that the American public has seen and appreciated.

Sorry General! You had your chance and blew it. “Hindsight is not wisdom, and second-guessing is not a strategy” unless McCain says it is.

Colin Powell is a socialist….whodathunkit?

By dw

October 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

To Goldie and AmVet,

So you know for a fact that Mr. Powell has no biased in his thoughts at all of any kind, on any subject. He is neutral on everything and totally incapable of biased. And just because he didn’t say explicitly his bias, then he couldn’t have any that helped shape his thoughts. Just as you and all Democrats and liberals can’t be accused of biased because you are above that and have evolved beyond all other humans. Blessed be the Obama for he shall reign forever and ever, because he too is unbiased.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

*will be drawing down employment as the initiatives are completed as I feel an Obama-nation is a foregone conclusion- *

Dagney @ 1:23 — you’re a quitter. And a shameless one… trying to blame Obama already for your Party’s problems and the wreck they’ve made of America.

By AmVet

October 19, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

dw, like you, I KNOW nothing about his motives. Nor, do I presume to speak for him. Or anyone else, for that matter.

All we can do is go on history. He has never been accused, to my knowledge, nor given reason to suspect, he is some sort of closet bigot, much less a covert Black Power nut.

That you suspect him of having such biases is illustrative of your “interesting” views.

As one who was opposed to this misguided, boneheaded occupation of Iraq before it even began, I am of the opinion, that Powell’s speech before the UN was indefensible.

And his disassociation/disappearance since he bailed on the worst administration ever, leads me to believe he may have regretted being party to these chickenhawks.

But, on balance I believe he is an honorable man, a great American and as a combat veteran worthy of getting a pass from time to time…

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Powell knew he was lying as the crap flowed from his mouth.

Old 91 — Powell took commands and was doing his job as he was told to do. But your guy McBush, the Propagandist, now there’s a true liar… not even a part of the Bush administration and he went ahead and promoted their lies anyway:

McCain: Sunni and Shia No History of Disagreement

McCain says the US was greeted as liberators in Iraq and the war was easy

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

dw

October 19, 2008 1:30 PM

Apparently you didn’t watch the video.

The best among us can still put country above party.

By dw

October 19, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

To Goldie,

My opinion is that Colin Powell did not endorse Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton’s presidential bids is that they come across as total “nut” jobs. Obama portraits a calm and articulate demeanor and doesn’t have the crazy look of the two individuals you mentioned prior. That doesn’t mean he isn’t just as dangerous with his liberal ideology.

By "The Corporal"

October 19, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Every party has its **Lieberman. This one just happens to have worn a uniform in the past.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

4) wants a guy with no military background to one with a military background 5) wants a guy with no experience, other than running for president

dw @ 1:30 — looks like the “no integrity nor vision for the future” argument (such as John McBush) trumps the “no military, no experience” argument… and I’m so sorry to see you’ve hooked yourself onto the same ole politics of fear that the Repugs always bring to the table, no matter what.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

AmVet

October 19, 2008 1:31 PM

He did discuss race consideration on MTP.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

please spare us the crap about the deficit being strictly a by-product of the Republican war effort

Nope, Dawggy — no sparing the crap, as it will always get slung back your way… especially when you refuse to see the errors of the Repug Party’s war-mongering and bankrupting ways.

Your comment reminds me that I had a co-worker who recently stated that removing Saddam Hussein was worth the price we have paid… and I told him “no, it ain’t worth the price” when it’s been over 4,000 American lives lost, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis lives lost, tens of thousands of American military casualties, and over $500 BILLION spent so far in Iraq… and all of that because of your regime change ideology and your conflating 9/11 and Saddam Hussein to frightened Americans.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

“It actually upsets me,” Mr. Wurzelbacher said. “I am a plumber, and just a plumber, and here Barack Obama or John McCain, I mean these guys are going to deal with some serious issues coming up shortly. The media’s worried about whether I paid my taxes, they’re worried about any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America. They really don’t. I asked a question. When you can’t ask a question to your leaders anymore, that gets scary. That bothers me.”

And of course the question got answered by Karl “Barack Obama” Marx. He wants to spread the wealth around.

Is the press concerned with this redistribution scheme? Of course not. Here’s what they’re interested in.

On Friday, the East Valley/Scottsdale Tribune in Arizona reported that Mr. Wurzelbacher’s Arizona driver’s license was suspended in May, 2000, following nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations. He lived in Arizona from 1997-2000

They’re more interested in destroying a man for asking a question of a Presidential candidate that showed up in the guy’s driveway uninvited.

By AmVet

October 19, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

TN Gelding, thanks for the info.

I did not and cannot imagine race was a factor in Powell’s decision.

But the teeth gnashers on the lunatic fringe see second gunmen on grassy knolls everywhere.

Until the BushCo apologists help clean up the horrific messes they’ve made over the past few years, they are, in many American’s minds I suppose, irrelevant…

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Midori @ 1:54 — good link. I didn’t see that press conference, and I like that Powell said “the Iraqis are responsible for their own future”… and it sounds a lot like what General Petraeus is saying now, too.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

What’s funny to me is that you guys throw out the cry “racism” so often it looses any punch - I for one am unfazed by it - if you actually knew the definition of the word, you would know that I have never once uttered a racist comment -

Bigoted and/or prejudiced, perhaps, but not racist.

Get a bigger vocabulary and you may actually be more convincing.

By Midori

October 19, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Powell says crazy Michelle Bachman helped him decide to endorse Obama

Q: Sir, what role did McCain’s negativity play in your decision?

POWELL: It troubled me. You know, we have two wars. We have economic problems. We have health problems. We have education problems. We have infrastructure problems. We have problems around the world with our allies. And so those are the problems the American people wanted to hear about, not about Mr. Ayers, not about who is a Muslim and who’s not a Muslim. Those kinds of images going out on al Jazeera are killing us around the world. And we have got to say to the world it doesn’t make any difference who you are or what you are. If you’re an American you’re an American.

And this business of, for example, a congressman from Minnesota who’s going around saying let’s examine all congressmen to see who is pro-America or not pro-America. We have got to stop this kind of nonsense and pull ourselves together and remember that our great strength is in our unity and in our diversity. And so that really was driving me. And to focus on people like Mr. Ayers, these trivial issues for the purpose of suggesting that somehow Mr. Obama would have some kind of terrorists’ inclinations, I thought that was over the top. It was beyond just good political fighting back and forth. I think it went beyond. And then to sort of throw in this subtle Muslim connection. You know, he’s a Muslim and a terrorist. And it was taking root. And we can’t judge our people and we can’t hold our elections on that kind of basis. And so yes, that kind of negativity troubles me and the constant shifting of the argument.

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

AmVet

October 19, 2008 2:21 PM

Certainly I agree, but the issue was discussed.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

That doesn’t mean he isn’t just as dangerous with his liberal ideology.

dw — I suggest that your Neo-con/fundamentalist ideology from the Repug Party is way more dangerous to America and the American way. Hence, why you’re losing so badly in November.

Now if John McBush was a true “maverick” as he tries to sell himself, he would not have chosen a VP candidate who appeals to the Neo-con/fundamentalist base of your Party. So, you and he have made your beds in this election.

By Dawggy Style

October 19, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Constitutional amendment to balance the budget starting in 2009 - Yes or No? Time for YOU to put up or shut up!! I might actually prefer the latter, but, for the good of the country, I’ll settle for telling Pelosi, Reid & Co. to stop slurping at the trough and do something truly PATRIOTIC!!

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

*you would know that I have never once uttered a racist comment - *

Dagny — are you now denying that it was you who posted @ 10:38 the following:

{{“I don’t think that anyone will say anything about Colin Powell except that its sad that a man, even with his high level of integrity, can see nothing but race.”}}

Who are you to say that Powell “can see nothing but race” after he explained so thoroughly his reasons for not supporting McBush? I suggest it is YOU who can see nothing but race, or else maybe you just never bothered to listen to what he said…

By Midori

October 19, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

yet Dagny - you were the very first to throw out the “r” card.

Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 2:17 PM

The irony is Joe would get a decrease in his taxes and help with his health insurance as well.

As would his boss, since the company wasn’t making any where near $250k.

That said, I don’t like the scheme. We all need to sacrifice and pay a little more.

By Goldie

October 19, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Midori @ 2:36 — and I believe Andy-DUH-Management got his feelings hurt today because Dagny was the first one to sling that “r” comment out there!

Whine, whine, whine — and no cheese to got with it.

By RW-(the original)

October 19, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Gelding,

I think a man looking forward to what Obama’s policies would do to his future hopes and dreams is a lot more important than thinking about staying right where is he is in life just because Obama will steal a few dollars from somebody that earned it and stick it in Joe’s pocket. As long as he doesn’t strive to be successful that is.

By old91A10

October 19, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

@ Goldie October 19, 2008 1:57 PM “Powell … took commands and was doing his job as he was told to do….”

If you were in Powell’s highly polished shoes, is this how you would have played it out?

This is not a legitimate excuse for a public servant or soldier, and it is an offense worthy of impeachment or court-martial. If he were a ordinary civilian or grunt, he would not only have been tried for lesser offensives, but his name would, as it ought to be, tarnished forever.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 19, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

“Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race,” Limbaugh wrote in an e-mail. “OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I’ll let you know what I come up with.”

As for Powell’s statement of concern this morning about the sort of Supreme Court justices a President McCain might appoint, Limbaugh wrote: “I was also unaware of his dislike for John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia. I guess he also regrets Reagan and Bush making him a four-star [general] and secretary of state and appointing his son to head the FCC. Yes, let’s hear it for transformational figures.”-Politico

Attack the plumber and spin.

By Midori

October 19, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Goldie- LMAO!!!!!!

Someone beat Andy’s play to play the bigot card???

Oh NOESSSSSSS!!!

:)

By AmVet

October 19, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Poor, poor, poor Lush Scumbaugh.

Trying desperately to play up Powell’s endorsement along racial lines.

Lush, you are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.

Let the Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth begin their new campaign against the traitor Powell!!!

By Dawggy Style

October 19, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

What’s the matter? One of your 89 cats got your tongue? Or maybe you just misplaced your Paul Begala talking points about a Constitutional Amendment to Balance the Federal Budget? HINT: All DemWits abhor the idea!!

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 19, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Goldie - Let’s examine the perspicacity of your argument. According to my dictionary, Racism is defined as follows:

-noun - A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

Now, in what I said - Powell used race to determine where to throw his support, there exists nothing that supports that definition.

If you want to argue that I am prejudiced - that is, I pre-judge situations based on what I already have experienced, or know to be true, I would agree with that argument - I do tend to lump - For example, I trust white male doctors - not because the are white, and not because the are male, but because I know, beyond any shadow of a doubt that they earned their degree - they were never part of a social experiment to try and falsely legislate equality - that doesn’t mean that I don’t believe that there are phenomenal doctors of all races and sexes out there, but only one class that beyond any shadow of a doubt earned everything on their own merit.

This prejudice leads to a mild level of bigotry to be sure, but falls far below the threshold for racism.

But, gosh, screaming the “r” word is so much more fun - too bad it’s lost all of its meaning by the twisted use of certain people like yourself who want to try and brand anyone who doesn’t agree with their view of the world as “racist”.

BTW, I also find it hysterical that Jay would lead an elephant into the room, place it dead center, and the react with surprise when someone else says, “Hey look, there’s an elephant”. It’s even more shocking that by saying that you can automatically extrapolate the fact that I must hate all elephants…

By Midori

October 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Check it out: THE FOXFATHER!!

By Jack

October 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

LATEST Gallup poll 10/19/08

Obama 52 % McCain 42 %

So much for that tightening of the polls

Source: Gallup.com

By sunshine and thunder

October 19, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

But I thought Colin Powell was a liar and a fraud? Now he’s credible? LOL.

OK, you left nuts. YOu want a liberal super majority in Washington - the closest thing to tyranny one can imagine.

[- Free speech and voting rights. A liberal supermajority would move quickly to impose procedural advantages that could cement Democratic rule for years to come. One early effort would be national, election-day voter registration. This is a long-time goal of Acorn and others on the “community organizer” left and would make it far easier to stack the voter rolls. The District of Columbia would also get votes in Congress — Democratic, naturally.

Felons may also get the right to vote nationwide, while the Fairness Doctrine is likely to be reimposed either by Congress or the Obama FCC. A major goal of the supermajority left would be to shut down talk radio and other voices of political opposition.](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html)

By TN Gelding

October 19, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 19, 2008 2:23 PM

You can be forgiven for your bigotry.

After all, I’m sure you consider yourself to be one of the pro-American Americans.

By nickrud

October 19, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

By Dawggy Style What’s the matter? One of your 89 cats got your tongue? Or maybe you just misplaced your Paul Begala talking points about a Constitutional Amendment to Balance the Federal Budget? HINT: All DemWits abhor the idea!!

Dawggy Style do you even remember when the budget was last balanced? And who, when he took office, threw that bi partisan effort out the window?

By KYJurisDoctor

October 19, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

With Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, John McCain is in DEEP political DOO-DOO.

And so is SILLY SARAH (Palin). OsiSpeaks.com

By KYJurisDoctor

October 19, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

With Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, John McCain is in DEEP political DOO-DOO.

And so is SILLY SARAH (Palin). OsiSpeaks[dot]com

By CC

October 19, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Money Talks, also powell feels that he has to support a “black man” because he has been made fun of in the past as a white man wearing black skin. This will restore his reputation in the black community.

By CC

October 19, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Money Talks, also powell feels that he has to support a “black man” because he has been made fun of in the past as a white man wearing black skin. This will restore his reputation in the black community.

By CC

October 19, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

Money Talks, also powell feels that he has to support a “black man” because he has been made fun of in the past as a white man wearing black skin. This will restore his reputation in the black community.

By HMMMMM

October 20, 2008 7:46 AM | Link to this

Have faith, Love child. Obama will NEVER be elected. TRUE Americans will never elect A SOCIALIST, no matter what color he may be…. It’s still interesting to see these libs get all worked up….

By BJ

October 20, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

I have been a black democrat most of my life and I’ve always respected Colin Powell and still do although I don’t not support Obama for this election. I watched Colin on TV yesterday when he endorsed Obama. With all that he did say, he never said anything about Obama’s political record or experience. Powell spoke about how Obama is inspiring people, which is not enough in my book. For that fact, Eddie Long and Creflo could run for president. I am sure the endorsement means a lot to Obama but most people have made their minds up at this point.

By Bruce

October 20, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Go Obama Go!

When can I expect my check from Bill Gates? Will it be in time for Christmas? Surely Ole Bill can afford to send me a million or two.

I am so excited…..

By Bruce

October 20, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Go Obama Go!

When can I expect my check from Bill Gates? Will it be in time for Christmas? Surely Ole Bill can afford to send me a million or two.

I am so excited…..

By Frederick Douglass

October 20, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

So let the discreditation of Gen. Powell begin. 35 years of military service, Bronze Star, Purple Heart, Secretary of State, it can all be thrown on the trash heap now. How can a man with such stellar credentials align himself with someone that “pals around with terrorists”? I can see Silly Sarah now berating, and belittling Powell’s career from the stump, alas, it was good while it lasted General.

By marti

October 20, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU….CHOSE COLOR OVER EXERIENCE! FOR YEARS I HAVE FELT YOU WERE A GREAT PERSON. NOW I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE AS GREAT AS I HAD PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT. WHAT A DISAPPOINT…COLOR OVER EVPERIENCE! SHAME ON YOU COLIN. MARTI

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