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DEL.ICIO.USMcCain closes Gallup gap, but debate may halt his momentum
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The latest Gallup polling puts the spread between Obama and McCain at six points, down considerably from the 11-point spread of a few days ago. I’m not at all surprised that the gap has closed, but I suspect that last night’s debate may squelch whatever momentum McCain might have been building.
Against his better political judgment, McCain let the GOP base bully him into attacking on the Ayers stuff, just as he earlier let them bully him into picking Sarah Palin. In both cases, he made the base happy at the expense of the rest of the electorate, and there’s every reason to think he would govern that way if elected. The “maverick” campaign has been anything but.
In the debate, McCain did go out of his way to try to separate himself from George W. Bush, and to some degree he succeeded. But as the debate went on, he reversed any progress he might have made in that direction by reiterating the same basic GOP ideology of the past 30 years. In essence, he argued that government is the problem.
McCain made that point bluntly. But as I mentioned last night, “the truth is that under these circumstances, he will probably lose because conservative principles just aren’t all that attractive to voters at this point in our history. After eight years of Bush, that approach has lost all credibility.”
Joe Klein of Time magazine, among others, makes the same argument:
“But 2008 has proved to be a new and frightening moment for the American electorate, and having the government help in finding, and funding, health care doesn’t sound like such a bad idea anymore. … This is simply not a good year to say, ‘Joe, take care of your health care yourself.’ It seems an impossible year for McCain’s Reagan Republican philosophy.”
The impact of the debate won’t start to be seen in polls until tomorrow’s three-day tracking numbers are released, and its full impact won’t be seen until Sunday. But I suspect we’ll see that gap start to widen again.
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By @@
October 16, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Now jay……haven’t you received your latest commandment from the messiah.
Barack OBlahMa — “For those of you who are feeling giddy or cocky and think this is all set, I just [have] two words for you: New Hampshire,” the Democratic presidential nominee said during a fundraiser breakfast in New York. “You know I’ve been in these positions before where we were favored and the press starts getting carried away and we end up getting spanked.
jay spankin’ OBlahMa! Now that’s a liberal image you may want to avoid here bookman.
By Mike
October 16, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
According to Drudge:
“GALLUP’s ‘traditional’ likely voter model shows Obama with a two-point advantage over McCain on Thursday, 49% to 47%, this is within poll’s margin of error… Developing…”
I don’t buy it, but nonetheless…
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
Panic time!
GALLUP SHOCK: 49 OBAMA, 47 MCCAIN WITH LIKELY VOTERS
“Spread that wealth.”
bwa
By getalife
October 16, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Our friends on the right are very sensitive and get their feeling hurt easily like McCain last night.
Their ideology has not changed even though it is a proven failure. w could run again and these kooks would vote for him. Look at the outcome not the ideology, it is a failure.
Lets hope the majority of sane and patriotic Americans will provide another thumpin like 06.
Voting gop and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
By CJ
October 16, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this
Gallup is an outlier. Most polls show McCain behind by 8 to 12.
By Mike
October 16, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
getalife -
LOL. Are you questioning people’s patriotism? Don’t you know that only mean old conservatives do that? LOL
Look, anyone who really thinks that their side is all right and the other side all wrong is not one to be questioning other’s sanity or slavish devotion to ideology.
Truth is that you are exactly like the people you hold in deepest contempt. You just have a blue bandana instead of a red bandana.
By Bill
October 16, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
I still can’t get my mind around how a total incompetent like Obama is even this close to the Presidency. There can’t be that many mindless robots that could actually vote for a guy who consistently lies about his radical roots and ideology. He let his Marxist philosophy slip the other day with his comment about “spreading the wealth around” and , God willing, enough people will come to their senses and elect McCain.
By Goldie
October 16, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
McBush will be a terrible POTUS for the crisis that America finds itself in today. We need JOBS, JOBS, and more JOBS to get Americans back on their feet, and the same old trickled-on economic theories are as obsolete as the 20th century. McBush decided to appeal to the basest nature of his base, and he has lost those independent voters that he needs to win as a consequence of his decision. 20th Century Ideology for leading America is dead!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
By getalife October 16, 2008 5:00 PM Our friends on the right are very sensitive and get their feeling hurt easily like McCain last night.
Uh-huh:
“The notion, though, that because we’re not doing town hall meetings that justifies some of the ads that have been going up, not just from your own campaign directly, John, but 527s and other organizations that make some pretty tough accusations,” whined Oblahma.
If you can’t stand the heat, barry, get the hell out of our kitchen.
By Carl
October 16, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
This is why Democrats shouldn’t get complacent. There are three weeks left and anything can happen, but if we stay the course, fight the lies, volunteer, and show up to vote in huge numbers then we’ll win this. But we’re not there yet, so don’t do any victory laps.
By Taxpayer
October 16, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
What is it with these Republicans and paying taxes. I mean, this Joe the plumber guy apparently cannot even pay the taxes that he owes under the Bush tax plan. What does he want, a free ride. Doesn’t he realize that the wars that Bush and McCain and Palin and other Republicans want us to fight in perpetuity actually cost money. Does he think that those new end-of-times fighter planes, the FU-2 Rapture, and their “special” payloads are produced free of charge? Does he think that soldiers fight for free? Does he think that loads of sand transported to Iraq are free? We taxpayers have to pick up the tab for these and many other things that our Republican politicians don’t like to talk about. So, exactly who are the taxpayers and who are the freeloaders under this no-tax-for-the-Republican-base plan of McCain’s. Who is supposed to pick up the tab.
By Colorado
October 16, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this
If the media, including this guy Bookman who wrote this article, were as interested in Obama’s background as they are Sarah Palin we would know the truth on Barack Hussein Obama. It bothers me that Obama belonged to Islam until he married Michelle then he conveniently switched to the church of the “Rev.”??? Wright. If you can call that hate filled nest a church. I certainly do not.
Colorado
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Batten down thee hatches, Repugs, I think I know where this is headed:
When John McCain runs an ad with a white woman, Paris Hilton, in it, he is accused of racism. He runs an ad with Franklin Raines, the former head of Fannie Mae, in it, who is African-American, and that’s racist. And then he runs an ad with William Ayers, who is a white male, in it, and that’s racist.
If it weren’t so comical, these promiscuous accusations of racism, it would be tragic.-Krauthammer
By TW
October 16, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Well, crap. Vegas now says Obama -1000.
How come with all this anti-Obama sentiment, nobody has the stones to put any cash on McSame?
All talk? Yellow? Nah… imagaine that - a loud mouth Republican who won’t put his money where his mouth is.
Nah…
God I miss the real Republicans.
By Jay from NH
October 16, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Thank you Mike for pointing out the traditional Gallup poll. I think guys like Bookman in the media are hurting Obama’s campaign with their pronographic display of biast and subjectivity.
I wonder if Jay gets a thrill up his leg every time he hears Obama speak?
I personally think Joe the Plumber is more competent to lead this country than Obama. At least he doesn’t subscribe to socialism.
By konofan
October 16, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
What the polls don’t tell us is how many times we and our deceased relatives intend to vote.
By Tailgater
October 16, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
Obama’s advantage is the incompetent voter. The Ones onesies, unable to fend for themselves.
By Abomi Nation
October 16, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
LMAO!!! Desperation time! Everyone including Gallup knows the trends of the past are not the same this year. So much so they created a new category they think more accurately predicts the outcome.
(Btw, Zogby likely voters has Obama up by 5.5)
Of course the main focus should be on the electoral maps. A map that McCain has NO give with right now. He is well behind in every state that Kerry carried, and behind in some Bush states.
Gallup, Most likely voters, Obama +2
Gallup, Most likely, likely voters Obama +6
Gallup, Daily Standard Obama +6
Another thing, anything over a 1 point win for Obama will result in an official Democratic mandate. We’re just following the rules. The Dems will also be taking back that “political capital” Bush has been holding on to since the 2004 election.
By Tailgater
October 16, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
The eagerly compliant Carl to Karl?
Baaaaa-aaaaa!
Lambs to the slaughter.
By louis king
October 16, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
So Much for “Joe Six Pack” aka “Joe the Plumber”
The Christian Science monitor reported today that this morning Mr. McCain’s good friend “Joe the Plumber” admitted to a reporter that he would not make over 250k. Therefore, Mr. McCain’s rhetoric was much ado about nothing. And, his “I’m not George Bush” line was a poorly hidden but well delivered repeat of Reagan tell Mikael Gorbochev to “Tear down that wall.” lights out Johnny Boy. Time to go home.
By getalife
October 16, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Mike,
Stop humping my leg.
More gop ideology
Pitiful.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
By Bill October 16, 2008 5:18 PM He let his Marxist philosophy slip the other day with his comment about “spreading the wealth around”
Bill: Not only that, just for a moment imagine all of the radical ideas of his that haven’t slipped out of his mouth yet.
This guy will not own up to any part of his past and if you bring it up, he calls you a racist. After he’s thrown them under the bus.
What would make anyone expect anything different from this clown?
By NeauOne
October 16, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Just picture the possibilities: more Pelosis, Reids, Waters, Conyers, Watts, Meeks, “Freezer” Jeffersons, J Jackson Jrs., Mahoneys, Dodds, Franks. If not downright cranks, then criminals and people who think we landed on … Mars. Wow. We are all our own reward.
By getalife
October 16, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
Watched Joe the plumber run his mouth on CNN.
100% wingnut kook.
By louis king
October 16, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this
Okay. reality check. for all of my fellow Americans out there who oppose Obama, please answer these questions. By the way, I’m a former Army Major, so go light on the democracy line:
Do you really believe that 10 to 12 billion a month in Iraq is a reasonable venture when your retirement,home, and local bank is on the line?
Do you believe that Obama is the cause of the curent mess at home and abroad?
If he is not, then who is?
Do you acknowledge that “W” had a Republican controlled Congress as he led this country from a surplus to a deficit and lied to the world about weapons of mass destruction?
Are you aware of John McCain’s record of changing spots to stripes and back to spots for political expediency?
Is the Country a better place today because of Republican control?
Before you answer that one, go take a look at your children and or grandchildren. they are counting on your answer.
By Tailgater
October 16, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Joe was there to point out Obama’s running off at the bowels.
By Abomi Nation
October 16, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Next thing you know this Joe Plumber dude is going to show his gullible redneck fans a photo of him standing next to Big Foot and George W Bush.
They’ll all shout out “Bush is the greatest.” And “This proves Big Foot is Real.”
By TiminPhx
October 16, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
Oh wait, didn’t you leftist get your DNC Talking Points today?
You are to be trashing a citizen that dared ask the Most Merciful, Barry the Messiah a question.
Your typical rants or support of the columinst/Obama disciple isn’t until Friday…
Don’t worry about the fact that Obama spent his life associating with people that hate the United States, many Marxists, some actual terrorists.
No, it’s about you feeling self righteous and ever so chic.
By Tailgater
October 16, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this
Next thing? One thing is for sure — Joe would never stand next to the Big Foot on America’s Throat Obama. He will flush Obama first.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
hey - where’d all the wingnut trash come from?
did someone put up the bat signal?
By Bob
October 16, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
Bush is unpopular because he 1. P** off Liberals on Liberal issues (a given) and 2. Paid lip service to conservative values, such as limited government, while expanding governments power and scope.
The Dems got angry and voted in 2006 as much as Reps got angry and stayed home. Because the current administration is un-popular, don’t believe that is the fault of conservatism. That would be an un-wise assumption.
The press likes to think because 93% of the country thinks we are headed in a wrong direction, we want Obama. Actually, many think his direction would be “out of the frying pan, into the fire.”
By Kriuk
October 16, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
Louis asks: “Do you believe that Obama is the cause of the curent mess at home and abroad? If he is not, then who is?”
Gosh, Major. Just maybe it’s you and me and the way we live. Heaven forbid that we have to change Ourselves!!! It’s so much easier to find a red or blue scapegoat. Do you really believe a word that these politicians are saying? You do??? OK, here’s Joe Biden in 2002:
“I do not believe this is a rush to war. I believe it is a march to peace and security. … (Saddam Hussein) possesses chemical and biological weapons and is seeking nuclear weapons.” Biden continues: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.” Just shows ya that, nowadays, when the going gets tough, the tough run for office.
By Bob
October 16, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this
will someone tell i-r-o-diM the libyan parrott thread is three stories down in the caves. fly away you old bat.
By John Sorg
October 16, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this
The Ayers link is important because Ayers is/was a mentor to Obama and is a far out leftist. The same can be said for Rev. Wright.
Obama is a fake. He pretends to be a “moderate” but his political upbringing is on the far left.
The press won’t tell the truth so it is left to McCain and Palin.
By Abomi Nation
October 16, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this
Yes we did get our Democratic Talking Points today.
They also sent us a copy of the November Democratic Talking Points,
“The American people have given us a mandate.”
“Its too late for bi-partisanship.”
“Scalia is going down!”
“Republicans role in the government has been reduced to “ceremonial only.”
By Ackmed
October 16, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
Thee Iman was so upset this afternoon, he was jumping up and down on the floor of thee cave yelling Gallup must die, Thee infidels, Gallup must die!
So we went outside and shot his horsey.
Now we are banished from thee mosque and thee Iman said that there would be no more Reverend Wright youtube sermons for us.
Every one is such great despair because thee Blessed One Oblahma let it slip that he would “spread thee wealth around,” and everyone knows that means he will take money from the hard workers and give it to thee deadbeats, like us.
We are all afraid this will be his ruination.
And as usual, just like any good raghead, when we get upset, we go kill thee women and children, we are so brave, aren’t we?
So off we go!
Allah Akbar!
Yes we can!
By Tom
October 16, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
My, my. The weakling Repug redneck hillbilly Joe SixPacks are swarming today.
Their phony war-hero looks like a thug every time he is placed into an atmosphere that contains intellectualism, and he just angrily blunders away. The very same mentality that allowed him to crash 3 planes and then get himself shot down over Hanoi. Stupidity, bad-temper, violation of reasoned rules and SOP.
Don’t worry, Very Little People, the weekend is almost here - and you can lose yourselves once again in football, bowling, NASCAR, animal-slaughter, maybe baseball - other intellectual and broadening pursuits. A bunch of simple-minded Repugs, bringing America to its uneducated knees.
By Greg Mendel
October 16, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this
I doubt the McCain/Unavailable campaign will get much bounce from the last debate. McCain spent a lot of time sanctifying Joe the Plumber. Today, the media spent a lot of time hunting Joe down, only to find he has no plumbing license or $250,000. He does have, however, a couple liens for back taxes.
By invoking Joe, McCain reminded voters how hard he digs into an issue before choosing it as his VP. With Joe, he thought he had just the bomb to toss at Obama. It went off in his lap, and secondary explosions will continue until the election.
By the way, has anyone filled out a Missing Persons Report on Sarah Palin?
By Midori
October 16, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this
Bob,
what in the world would I have to do with “Libyan Parrots”?
it appears you have outed yourself.
Moron.
By corey
October 16, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this
you are just sore that you couldn’t be president because your sister wouldnt work as the first lady, you redneck !
By Midori
October 16, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this
Greg,
thank you for that outstanding 6:31.
The idiots just don’t get it.
All they require is a slogan and misplaced anger.
the idiots.
hi, Bob.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
I found her!:
BANGOR, Me. — Speaking before a crowd of a few thousand supporters in an airport hangar, GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin continued to question Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama’s patriotism and commitment to fair elections.
Palin also attacked Obama for his ties to ACORN with new intensity, saying, “In this election, it’s a choice between a candidate who won’t disavow a group committing voter fraud, and a leader who won’t tolerate voter fraud.”
You go girl!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.
The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.-CNN
By Ray
October 16, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
We are still waiting for the Annointed One to reveal his true birth certificate, valid hospital records from some hospital in Hawaii (there were two that his sister mentioned where he was born) and prove to us that he was not born in Kenya or lost his American citizenship when he moved with this family to Indonesia. He was known as Barry Lorento when registered in a Muslim school in Indonesia as an 8 yr old and since Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship from any other country, American law voids citizenship from any citizen in this category. When he returned from Indonesia to Hawaii to live with his grandmother, he returned as not an American citizen but as an Indonesian citizen. He had an Indonesian passport listing his name as Barry Lorento and he was a muslim at that point. When he arrived in Hawaii, he changed his name to Barrack Hussien Obama and moved in with his grandmother as his guardian. He never registered as an alien when he came back to Hawaii and was no longer considered a citizen of the USA because of his Indonesian citizenship. Obama is really an illegal alien who never registered with immigration and is questionably a citizen of this country. He won’t show anyone his true birth certificate which he should have shown to any election commission upon registering for a primary to run for president of this country. Ref: www. Obamacrimes.com
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this
It’s no surprise to see the whole of Planet Moonbatica running around trying to discredit Joe the Plumber, but it doesn’t matter folks. You could find that he’s one of the few International fugitives Billy Jeff didn’t pardon and it was still Karl Marx…err…Barack Obama that said he would “spread the wealth around.”
By Smackmani
October 16, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this
Obama is a Marxist therotician. Here we are: just ask yourself who Bin laden or Hugo Chavez would support. Don’t the American People realize that the U.S. Gov moved most of their out year obligations off the books? We haven’t had a surplus and there is no ‘lockbox’. If the federal government was a business, the federal debt would represent expeditures that realized no return. All business did is copy their example and fudge their own books. No one in their right mind blames Obama for the past, but he is the past on steroids. And there’s plenty of film footage of all the leading Dems stating that Iraq had these weapons… and they knew it to be true because we sold’em to them. At this point though, are you willing to turn Iraq over to Iran? Just a simple Yes or No. I know the Repubs stink - primarily because they lost fiscal dicipline but hey - the American people have embraced Marxism and you can’t get elected anymore without promising some kind of set aside. Just wait until the Bond Market busts and the interest rate soars and the national debt explodes and it costs you $50 for a can of beans. You’ll look to the front of the wagon and the wagon pullers will be gone…gobbled up by marxist demagogues to buy votes. What will you do then?… bypass the Government, get your own gun and just go take your booty directly from the evil rich?
By NightyNight
October 16, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
Gee, Tom, you sound pretty intelligent yourself. I bet you could fly an F-8 just thinking about it.
By Jim S
October 16, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this
Okay Louis, let’s look at things: Iraq and $10 Billion a month, probably not, I;d prefer the Iraqi government take on a larger share of the costs of our being there. +1 Democrat
Obama being the cause, partially, he was and is still involved with ACORN who, together with Carter, Clinton, Dodd, Franks and a few others rigged the system so that unqualified buyers could get mortgages. That they had no realistic way to pay the loan back was immaterial. +1 Republican
Bush and Republican controlled Congress, yes, but also remember 9/11 and the immediate recession the country went into. Interest rates were lowered, money came into the market and went right back out. Jobs were created and things were going fine. That said, Republicans also spent like drunken sailors while they were in control. Since then the Democrat controlled congress hasn’t exactly shown themselves to be any less frugal with OUR money. Call it a draw.
McCain changing positions or as you call them “spots”, yes and he’s also a politician so it;s kind of Politics 101, say what you have to say in order to get elected. I didn’t hold that against Kerry so I won’t hold it against McCain either. Another draw.
Is the country a better place…NO but I also look at Congress that will in all likelihood end up with clear majorities in both the House and Senate. With a favorable rating of 17% or less and a leadership that for lack of a better term is totally incompetent, we as a country cannot afford to have a Socialist/Marxist as President. +Republican
I look at my kids and grandchildren and I see that they are growing up in a country that I find hard to believe is the same one that I grew up in. Political correctness gone amok, no such thing as civil discourse, social security in the hopper and a national debt that is an abject embarrassment. Add terrorism, socialism, and a few more ism’s and things don’t look good for the kids both mine or yours. Bottom line is I don’t think mcCain will make a good President, but I also think that Obama will be an unmitigated disaster. Advantage Republican
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
OMG, the democrats, having already realized that all is lost in 2008, have already started the fake polling for 2012:
Women Voters Prefer Hillary Clinton to Sarah Palin in 2012 By a 2-to-1 Margin-Club Femina
By Ray
October 16, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Spread the wealth around….. he just doesn’t get it. After campaigning for the last 18mos, this one statement will do him in. He just can’t learn to keep his mouth shut. We just don’t trust him, plain and simple.
By Boink
October 16, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this
Hey, Greg, you don’t need a plumbers license to do residential work in that state. The fact that he owes back taxes indicates that he actually OWES taxes which is more than you can say about millions of “middle class” Americans who will be anxiously awaiting their next handout/rebate. The guy never claimed to have or to make $250,00 so I don’t understand what you’re gloating over. Other than yourself and your sense of your own cleverness.
By "The Corporal"
October 16, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this
Jay
You are in so deep. If you lose this one, you might as well resign.
By Taxpayer
October 16, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this
The Republican politicians have gone and hung their base out on the line to dry, after giving them another good dose of trickle-down economics, and all the base can do is beg for more of the same. These poor little Republicans. They’re like the little doggies that chase their tails for hours on end only to get in enough of a bite from time to time to let out a periodic yelp before resuming the chase. Hey, if that’s what makes you Republicans happy with your lives, go for it.
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this
The old coot Mothra has cut and run from his debate.
On the heels of calling his constituents racists, Congressman Jack Murtha (D-Porksylvania) has cancelled his debate with Bill Russell.
By RB from Gwinnett
October 16, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this
You morons do realize none of these polls are of any value whatsoever, don’t you? Are you really this stupid? Unless these polls are being done state by state and include electoral votes, they’re completely meaningless. The population as a whole, as these polls are taken, DOES NOT ELECT OUR PRESIDENT. Why even discuss this? It’s a waste of time and a diversion for people too stupid to look at how our President is elected.
Just a public service for the liberals too stupid to educate themselves in how the world really works. And I didn’t even have to fleece a mean ole rich person to provide this education. Morons…
By Bill
October 16, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this
Bookman, which is it? First he WASN’T gaining and needed the debate. Now he WAS gaining , but the debate blew it. And by the way, we’ve always been at war with Eastasia. Oh, wait. We’ve NEVER been at war with Eastasia. I dunno…what are the Osama talking points for today again?
By "The Corporal"
October 16, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this
GALLUP SHOCK: 49 OBAMA, 47 MCCAIN WITH LIKELY VOTERS
and if the gap doesn’t widen again?
By Hugh
October 16, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this
Bookman, which is it? First he WASN’T gaining and needed the debate. Now he WAS gaining , but the debate blew it. And by the way, we’ve always been at war with Eastasia. Oh, wait. We’ve NEVER been at war with Eastasia. I dunno…what are the Osama talking points for today again?
By Abomi Nation
October 16, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this
More voter fraud uncovered!
A recent Gallup poll in Sept showed voter identity in September as;
28% Republican
35% Democrat
35% Independent
Republicans are lying like mad on their voter registration forms. The break down is really;
32% Republican
35% Democrat
31% Independent
Turns out a good chunk of the Republican base is too embarrassed to admit to being a Republican and answered “INDEPENDENT.”
Yes, its that bad these days for Republicans. Proves also that they are heavy into the voter fraud.
By Hugh
October 16, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
Bookman, which is it? First he WASN’T gaining and needed the debate. Now he WAS gaining , but the debate blew it. And by the way, we’ve always been at war with Eastasia. Oh, wait. We’ve NEVER been at war with Eastasia. I dunno…what are the Osama talking points for today again?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
The sign went up Sunday evening, bold black letters against the stark white background of the marquee at the Colony South Hotel & Conference Center in Clinton: “Country First. McCain/Palin.”
Many local supporters of Democrat Barack Obama, jolted by the message as they headed down Branch Avenue on their Monday morning commutes, grabbed cellphones and BlackBerrys to notify friends. Operators of neighborhood e-mail group lists cried foul to their memberships. The NAACP logged calls. Community leaders demanded boycotts of the hotel, a common venue for Democratic events.-WaPo
Totally losing it over a sign?
By "The Corporal"
October 16, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this
Now if we can just slow down the massive Democrat voter fraud we may have a chance ………… be prepared for an all nighter on November 4th and some court ligtigation in the days after …………..
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this
Democratic Socialists of America believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.
Sooooooo careful to not place Oblahma’s name any where on their webpage, but yet, these little jewels are on prominent display:
The DSA PAC has issued a report on John McCain’s radical health care plan.
The DSA PAC has issued a report on John McCain’s dangerous vision of U.S. foreign policy.
Birds of a feather?
By Midori
October 16, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this
Jesus Christ, Jay - would you please call in the exterimators?
This place is crawling with rw vermin, tossing out their venom.
so now we find out the Joe the Plumber is a lying sack of sh*t and a tax cheat to boot. He isn’t even a plumber!!!
With such a sterling background, why isn’t he on McCain’s economic team?
and could someone please unplug private corporal? he’s been spewing the same nonsense and lies for four straight days.
By getalife
October 16, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this
Turns out a good chunk of the Republican base is too embarrassed to admit to being a Republican and answered “INDEPENDENT.”
Cowards can’t admit nothing. They know their party screwed up the country but do not care and will vote the same.
Pathetic. Chavez said w is left of him and they don’t care.
Patriots, yeah right.
By KansasGirl
October 16, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
I have never believed Hussein has held the lead all these weeks. I believe McCain-Palin have always been ahead. As far as this debate, it’s become the deciding factor.
By Taxpayer
October 16, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this
All of you whining little Republicans had better get out to the voting booths and make sure you get pictures of everyone that votes so you can cross check all the photos and make sure that the same person did not vote at least once, if not more, in every precinct in every county in every state. This could be big, really big, really really big. This could be the proof that the Republican party has been searching for — proof that the entire Democratic party is in fact just one person voting millions of times. Now get out there and make your case, Republicans. Your leaders need you now more than ever to save their sorry buttocks. They are depending on you so don’t let them down.
By Bob
October 16, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
Jesus Christ, Jay - would you please call in the exterimators?
An Obamaniac gets out in front of her Hitler.
Seig heil! i-r-o-diM.
By RB from Gwinnett
October 16, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this
Midori, how about unplugging YOU. You’ve been spewing the same poorly thought out socialist CRAP from the first day you posted here. Never with an original thought. It’s scary to think you might be in control of the next car in traffic…
By @@
October 16, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
Hey Getalife!
Pathetic. Chavez said w is left of him and they don’t care.
Did you know that ACORN has been active in Venezuela’s elections?
And did you know that William Ayers attended a symposium down in Venezuela addressing Chavez as “comrade.”
Now who has associations with both?
Thaaaaaats right! None other than your Kommissar OBlahMa.
Now raise your rrrr……LEFT hand and swear allegiance. Practice makes perfect.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
Now McCain is ripping off Jimmy Carter - seems his latest ad resembles one of Jimmy’s.
say it ain’t so, John!!!
By Dagny and John's Love Child
October 16, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
Hey TN and friends, I wrote this for you guys, since most of you are probably too illiterate to actually write something for yourselves…..
Here is the preamble for your new constitution:
We the liberals of the United States, in order to form a more fair union, establish monetary equality, insure nobody gets their feelings hurt for by being told that they are partially responsible for their own situation, stop providing for the common defense and instead promise to eat oreos, nutter-butters, and drink milk with the thugs of the world so we can better understand why they hate us, hyper-promote every area of welfare, and deny the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our conservative brethren, do un-ordain and dis-establish this trashy Constitution for the United States of America, in order to form our new nation, the United Socialists of America.
Good Luck….to quote Samuel Adams….
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
What I think he means by loving wealth more than liberty is that it leads to jealousy - and that jealousy will cause you to end this experiment in liberty to insure that no one can have more than you.
I am, probably for the first time in my life, going to be ashamed of my fellow Americans - never did I think that a communist would be in the white house - and all because all of you people think the government should take care of all of you - and if that’s not possible then the government should use it’s full force to rob others and give to you - because you don’t have the balls to try and steal it yourself.
By @@
October 16, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
RB from Gwinnett:
It’s scary to think you might be in control of the next car in traffic…
especially since we’ve come to realize she begins drinking early in the morning. She spits out her Chardonnay from sunrise to sunset. Doubles up on Fridays, she does.
By Ray
October 16, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
Listen to PBS most every day in my wood working shop while I build wooden boats. The classical music is a joy and I used to contribute to this liberal voice but changed my mind today when I heard, at the end of a music segment, the people who were contributors to the station. The usual foundations, causes came through….. then the one I noted with interest. Citgo Oil….. “Giving the less fortunate heating oil for the coming winter… thinking of the needy”. A Caesar Chavez sponsored diatribe. Like accepting money from the dark side. Does PBS have no shame?
By RB from Gwinnett
October 16, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this
Do you low life recipients of government handouts think Obama ever wants you to make something of yourself and become a target of his class warfare vs. a recipient of it and a vote for him? Think about it…..
By lutonmoore
October 16, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this
Real professional Journalism here. Geez Jay, maybe you can have his baby…
By getalife
October 16, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this
@@,
Check out your homies
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this
Is this the McCain/Carter ad?
Midori,
Why aren’t you down on the parrot thread where you belong? Jay B was nice enough to write about you, it’s the least you could do.
By getalife
October 16, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this
I see an intellect drop on this blog.
Jay must have been linked from a RWingnut blog.
By T
October 16, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this
Ray
Can you really become president without being a born American? Really? The government doesn’t know if you are a natural citizen? Really? I don’t buy that one.
Get off Joe whoever. He is not up for election. Who cares?
Oil is down. Below $70. Election time magic.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
like I said, the bat signal went up.
RW -
I must profess ignorance as to what you’re referring to.
some of us have a life outside of this blog.
If you’re still on that parrot kick, I can only say look in the mirror.
you and your ilk haven’t found a right wing talking point that you all don’t memorize and spout off ad nauseum.
I do believe you’ve started to molt, dear.
excuse me while I get the vacuum cleaner.
and do you have to leave your droppings all over the place?
By TW
October 16, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this
The rightwings disdain for Ayers stems not from his planned attacks, but rather his position as pioneer in education. After all, there is no threat greater to the Republican base than the education of the electorate. The redstates dominate the bottom of the SAT rankings every year. The horrible state of education down south assuring this, the rightwing is able to keep captive the hoards of ignorate votes that continue to keep the wealthy brain of the party well stocked in houses, cars, and stupid, yet very hot, women.
Nothing makes a Republican politician smile more than towns full of dummies, eagerly awaiting the snake-oil cart.
By Rex
October 16, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this
How come Republicans don’t help get people signed up to vote? How come they don’t want people to vote? Kind of communist in that regard, eh?
By JAY BOOKMAN
October 16, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this
Folks, please quit your taunting. Woofing on the Internet takes no courage and no skill.
By @@
October 16, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
Not my taste in humor, but she claims it was in humor.
The group’s president, Diane Fedele, said she plans to send an apology letter to her members and to apologize at the club’s meeting next week. She said she simply wanted to deride a comment Obama made over the summer about how as an African-American he “doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”
“It was strictly an attempt to point out the outrageousness of his statement. I really don’t want to go into it any further,” Fedele said in a telephone interview Tuesday. “I absolutely apologize to anyone who was offended. That clearly wasn’t my attempt.”
I thought you leftists celebrated humor.
Maybe……..just maybe if OBlahMa hadn’t made such an outrageous claim, the bills wouldn’t be flowing.
Wait a minute……….currency will cease to flow if he’s elected president.
Not to worry. Those dollars, heck! all dollars will cease and to exist.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
The Great Republican Crack-up of 2008
With markets crashing and the economy sinking, McCain shows up at another debate looking angry and nasty, his face tense with some inner contempt that dominates his presence, throwing tiresome slops of mud to voters who hunger for reassurance and substance, his face twisted and eyeballs rolling like Karloff in the horror movies. Obama by contrast is Frank Sinatra during his mellower moments, or even better, Tony Bennett by starlight, looking cool in a crisis, calm in a storm, the serious man for serious times, calmly unflappable. Obama talks about healthcare while McCain talks about Ayers. Obama talks about education while McCain talks about ACORN. Obama talks about jobs while McCain grunts and snarls and sighs in ways that are devastating to him on split-screen television.
It is the great Republican crack-up of 2008. Republican economics brings the nation to the brink. Republican fearmongering erodes the very confidence essential to the markets while turning off whole swaths of independent voters. A Republican president, whom McCain supported 90 percent of the time, disappears during an economic crisis, sneaking into fundraisers through the back door to hide his support of his anointed heir from voters who demand powerful change.
keep it up, Republicans. PLEASE!!!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this
TW: Ayers and Oblahma dropped 50 million on Chicago area public education, along with their idea of schooling, and the children immediately became stupid.
Thanks anyway.
~~~~~
Is there any doubt that i r o diM has gone insane?
By hillbilly ragger
October 16, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this
Evolution.
By @@
October 16, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this
nix the “and”.
IHB
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this
Brooks: Paranoid, rage-driven, xenophobic nuts are taking over the Republican Party.
she must have met Bob, RW, RB and @@
Liberals haven’t had so much fun in decades.
Aside from the dwindling size of our 401(k)s, life is treating us well. True, we’re heading into a major recession. But that’s OK: That just presents us with new opportunities to Do Good. And while we wait for President Obama to bring us New Deal 2.0, we’ll also get a few giggles out of watching the Bush administration preside over the nationalization of the nation’s financial sector. (Tip: Practice saying “social democracy.” Also, practice saying “Told ya so!” with compassion.)
Maybe most fun of all, we’re getting to watch a steady procession of rats leaving the sinking GOP ship.
One by one, the nation’s more reputable conservatives have been edging away from the Republican presidential ticket. It started with John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate. Thinking conservatives — as of a couple of months ago, there were still a few left — were distinctly underwhelmed. In the New York Times, David Brooks chastised McCain for “throw[ing] away standards of experience and prudence” by picking Palin. In the Washington Post, Charles Krauthammer said Palin was “not ready” for prime time. David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter and fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, complained that Palin had “thoroughly — and probably irretrievably — proven that she is not up to the job.” In the National Review, conservative columnist Kathleen Parker said Palin was “clearly out of her league” and urged her to “bow out.”
For liberals initially alarmed by McCain’s brief post-convention poll bounce, this was fun. And as conservative disdain spread to the whole GOP ticket, the fun got even funner.
and will one of you wingnuts PLEASE pick up RW’s droppings??? better yet, just add them to your salad. Yum!!
By @@
October 16, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this
jay:
Are you the only one allowed to taunt? You display the talent in your columns.
Just tryin’ to out taunt a taunter’s all.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
Is there any doubt that drunken Andy is already insane?
By JAY BOOKMAN
October 16, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
It seems we were linked to by the “brave patriots” of Lucianne.com, named after Lucianne Goldberg, patroness of Monica Lewinsky and mother of Jonah Goldberg, who once tried to tell me that fascism and communism were both forms of liberal totalitarianism, that right-wing totalitarianism is impossible.
I chuckled.
By TW
October 16, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this
DNC: Wow. Ayers spent more on education in Chicago than Republican Bush did on the country in eight years.
But then, like I said, why would a Republican fund education when it would just end up hurting the base?
God Bless Bush. And God Bless the Sheep.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
Hillbilly Ragger:
LOLOLOLOL!!!!
Truth certainly is stranger than fiction :)
By @@
October 16, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
Dang Midori! We’re not all cookie-cutter conservatives. Let them say what they will. Unlike you did earlier, we won’t call for their extermination.
That would be……..well…….as somebody ^^^ up there said, rather Hitleresque.
By JAY BOOKMAN
October 16, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this
To @@:
Yes.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this
now I see where @@ gets it from
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
@@,
One is only left to wonder what’s considered a taunt all of a sudden. What seems to be here now is awfully mild compared to many threads. Either Jay B went into hypersensitive mode or some other things got put up and pulled down faster than anybody could see them.
More from Joe the Plumber
The press conference gets off to a slow start but once he gets warmed up I bet these jackals were looking for the quickest way out of town.
By @@
October 16, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this
jay:
Yes?
Well thppbbpt. My husband is playing poker and I don’t watch T.V. soooooo
What’s a girl to do besides read Stratfor?
A tidbit from Stratfor. Pakistan is broke, they’ve gone begging to China now.
And despite Islamabad’s requests to bolster ties with Beijing amid increased friction with Washington, China is hesitant to follow through with these actions at the moment, or with anything much more substantial. In fact, it is this tension that has Beijing worried and reticent. If the United States no longer sees Pakistan as a responsible ally, but instead as a battleground, China must think twice about bolstering the Pakistani government in any way that could give Washington a reason to shift pressure from Islamabad to Beijing. China has demonstrated its willingness to subtly step back from its partners in the face of U.S. pressure before — it reduced its dependence on Iranian oil during the U.S. push to stem Iranian nuclear developments.
Beijing does not want to end up being seen as a stumbling block in Washington’s attempts to bring about a conclusion to the war in Afghanistan. Chinese leaders remember the “accidental” bombing of the Chinese embassy in Serbia, at a time when China may have been allowing the Serbian regime the use of communications facilities in the embassy compound. That incident caused China to reconsider the value of playing around too far from home, especially in areas that put it crossways with Washington and are not key strategic interests.
I have a hard time understanding China. Just can’t figure ‘em out.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this
is he auditioning to replace one of the “what’s up” guys, or is he trying to wrestle that bottle of vodka from Andy’s firm grasp?
By @@
October 16, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this
Oops! didn’t see this one before jay.
who once tried to tell me that fascism and communism were both forms of liberal totalitarianism
By: @@
jay:
Are you the only one allowed to taunt?
By: JAY BOOKMAN
To @@:
Yes.
Hmmmmmm
By AmVet
October 16, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
Someone earlier today posited that if George W. Bush were allowed to run for office again, he would still garner a significant amount of support from the far right fringes of the GOP.
After considering this, even as shockingly insane as it sounds, I tend to agree.
The faux conservatives refuse to see or acknowledge anything remotely problematic with the performance of not just these men in arguably the worst administration ever, and their repudiated ideology, but also of the “faithful” boot lickers who still soldier on in the name of Republican intolerance and demagoguery like our very own Suxbad Chambless.
Is it any wonder whatsoever that so very few Americans now consider them qualified to rationally assess the integrity and qualifications of ANY candidate?
No, it is not…
By "The Corporal"
October 16, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
To hillbilly ragger
That cartoon was highly inaccurate.
Darwin believed that the white races and black races were in two different evolutionary lines and that the white race would eventually win out (due to their superiority, survival of the fittest, etc.). We now know that is hogwash but you never see that part of his great theory taught in our schools. Hummmmm …………..
By JAY BOOKMAN
October 16, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this
It’s a benevolent dictatorship, @@. Would you rather I let the inmates run the asylum?
By getalife
October 16, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this
Keith just made @@’s friend worst person in the world. Called her a moron.
Midori,
I think he lost it last night. Just what we need, another embarrassment in the WH.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this
Is anyone going to watch McCain on Letterman tonight?
By @@
October 16, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this
RW:
Thanks for the video. Gimme a cup ah HOT JOE. (ISH)
It’s a benevolent dictatorship, @@. Would you rather I let the inmates run the asylum?
Don’t bother me none jay. Since you’re obviously voting OBlahMa, you better get used to it.
Getalife:
What friend would that be?
By Taxpayer
October 16, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this
Hi Jay.
I have a question for you. It’s a question that I keep trying to get a Republican to answer but so far I have had no takers. What is the Republican plan for paying for the Bush Administration’s expenditures on the wars on terror, the prescription drug plan, and the wall street bailout, etc., and the desired reduction or elimination of corporate taxes, capital gains taxes, dividend taxes, income taxes, AMT, and estate taxes? How many years do they think we can borrow our way to pay for these things. I suspect that their real plan is to force the elimination or drastic reduction in social security (wasn’t the first real reduction in entitlements brought about during the Reagan administration) and medicare and other government programs by essentially forcing the government into a near bankrupt state and then giving us the sales pitch about how it’s the only way to save our great nation from being carved up and dished out to the Arabs, Chinese, Russians, etc. Then again, maybe we’re already there. It really wouldn’t take much to finish pushing this busload of US citizens over the cliff, given our current economic state.
By Tell It Like It Is
October 16, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this
I am convinced that Obama will not win unless he can maintain lead of more than 8 per cent. The Bradley rule will kick in(whites not voting for a black man). That is too bad because I believe Obama would make a much better president. If he were white, he would win easily. The Clintons, John Murtha and John Lewis know this. I know it also. History has taught me this. My biggest worry is Sarah Palin and her right wing friends. God help us all.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 16, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this
Aahhh, yes, aren’t thee Devil Rays lots o fun?
By JAY BOOKMAN
October 16, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
Except it wouldn’t work out that way, Taxpayer. The old folks would have enough political/economic power to insist on getting what they were promised, and we’d dump the burden on young Americans until eventually the load became too much.
Then we’d see a collapse that makes this one look insignificant.
By getalife
October 16, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
@@,
The homie in my link.
Midori,
After McCain mentioned Ayers, Letterman asked him about paling around with Liddy.
Letterman has spine.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
“This is what keeps African-Americans from joining the Republican Party,” she said.
However, I would bet my pension that the average republican thinks it’s funny.
You people belong in the minority.
By Taxpayer
October 16, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this
Just tell it like it is and vote for Obama’s white half if that’s what it takes to convince you to do the right thing.
By "The Corporal"
October 16, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this
To Tell it Like it is
Unfortunately, there is some truth in what you say. And some men will never vote for a woman and some Democrats will never vote for a Republican, etc., etc.
However, for this conservative (and many others) it is a shame that General Powell for whatever reason chose not to run. I vote for what is I believe is best for the country regardless of race.
To the J.C. Watts of the world - where are you ???
By Dagny and John's Love Child
October 16, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this
I don’t understand with all the glorious socialist states in the world - China, Cuba, North Korea, you guys can’t just all ship off to Nirvana?
All that I, and most of the people I know, want to do is work my tale off and try to create a better life for my family - why should I have to create a better life for your family when you are unable to? At what point did that become what this great country is about? When did I become my brothers keeper - not that I wouldn’t help out, but why must you use the fear of the government to take from me what is not yours and award it to yourself?
You wonder why there is so much disdain for you from this side of the argument, how would you feel if we were neighbors, you had just bought your kid a new bicycle for christmas and you new that I crept in during the middle of the night and stole it? That’s how I feel about you guys trying to vote in someone that wants to increase my taxes at every single turn - and take 45% of what is left when I die.
I loathe laziness - I believe that the only reason that anyone is not successful in this country is a combination of poor decision making and laziness. Make better decisions, live a better life - I understand it is easier to hold your breath and stomp your feet until good old uncle obama takes the sucker away from the child who bought it and gives it to you, but I guess you can do whatever you want if you have no self pride - eat another bag of pork rinds, drink another Colt 45, and wait on your robber-baron president to send you your goodies -
Laziness, political correctness, and an irrational fear of being labeled a racist has already destroyed what was once a great nation anyway.
Republicans suck, democrats suck worse, and we have no other options - - - -
By Midori
October 16, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
Olbermann just showed some clips from an earlier taping today.
Good to see McCain has a great sense of humor — he’s gonna need it.
By Greg mendel
October 16, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
Hey, Boink!
You’re right! Joe the Plumber doesn’t need a plumbing license to work in his county. He does need a license to work in Toledo, where he lives and works, and if he actually buys a plumbing business. If he doesn’t have $250,000, he can’t buy a $250,000 business, can he? And if he does, it’s unlikely he will clear $250,000 in personal income — which would make Obama’s tax plan his best bet.
Joe seems like a pretty regular guy to me. Reminds me a lot of Republicans I know. Making up crap while waiting to win the lottery.
Wonder what he does for health insurance. Bet he goes to the ER for a handout.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
psst…..Corporal: they chased JC away. And I’m being kind here
By getalife
October 16, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Keith waiting offstage was funny.
Should be a good show watching McCain’s expression when he asks him about Liddy.
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this
Tell it…..,
The Bradley effect was phony even when they used it as an excuse the first time around. I don’t doubt it would be blamed again though. It’s much easier to play the race card than to look at reality.
It was seriously flawed advance polling then and it would be the same thing now.
Midori,
I think that flier is offensive and I don’t buy for one second the excuse that it’s only about Obama bringing up the dollar bill comment.. What does that make me?
By Taxpayer
October 16, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
Jay,
I have no doubt that the AARP types are a force to be reckoned with. You can’t squeeze blood from a turnip though and that next big wave of social-security-ready retirees are already on their way right in the middle of the worst economic mess any of us have likely ever experienced. We are indeed teetering and yet all we seem to have left to cover the tab are service-industry jobs. We need some serious changes and we need them now. The last thing we need to be focused on is junk like FairTax[tm], illegal immigration, and conquering sovereign countries (unless we at least get to take the spoils of war — just kidding) that do not pose an immediate threat.
By Greg Mendel
October 16, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this
“To the J.C. Watts of the world - where are you ???”
Campaigning for Governor of Alaska.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this
LOL, RW
We BOTH know what you are.
You’re a republican.
see 9:23.
By Louis
October 16, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this
Young people: You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change. That is why Barack Obama has captured the youth, and he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That is a sign: When The Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And The Messiah is absolutely speaking.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
anyone else watching the Al Smith dinner?
McCain is actually pretty funny!!!
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 16, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
McZilla
I like this picture
It’s a family thing.
By @@
October 16, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
I took a minute to watch the dinner Midori.
McCain WAS funny. I’ve heard about his sense of humor, but I’ve never witnessed it.
Would you be offended if I said Barack was not as?
Never mind, already did.
Just bein’ honest.
Ciao.
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
Midori,
So if I find that someone mocked up a bill tinged with all sorts of racial stereotyping, find it offensive, and am willing to call it what it is then in your eyes I’m a klansman?
If I don’t then I bet you think I’m a klansman too.
Good luck with that! One wonders if calling people klanners is taunting? Probably not.
On another note, are you like an ACORN worker for Nielson tonight? How much does it pay to ask people on blogs what they’re watching on TV and write it in your little rating book?
If it helps get you a buck or two I’m watching the ALCS and plan to check out Letterman later.
By T
October 16, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this
Off topic, but so are all of you. A little something that I found inspiring. No political biased. And nohe is NOT using a teleprompter, well I don’t know.
give it a look.
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this
“It’s an outrage that the Obama campaign and the media are attacking Joe the Plumber for asking a legitimate question of a presidential candidate. This is why voters still have so many questions about Barack Obama. Instead of answering tough questions, his campaign attacks average Americans for daring to look at the reality behind his words, said Tucker Bounds, spokesman the McCain-Palin campaign. “John McCain will continue to fight on behalf of all hardworking Americans like Joe for policies geared toward increasing prosperity and reducing the burden on taxpayers — not ’spreading the wealth around’ for Senator Government to distribute as he sees fit.”
Is there a little divine intervention going on here? First we have JtP being solicited by Obama to ask a question and Obama letting loose his Marxist answer. Then we have the world’s most descriptive gaff getting some play. Senator Government, indeed!
By "The Corporal"
October 16, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this
To Midori
“…………..Watts had been mentioned as a potential vice presidential candidate for John McCain.”
Too bad he wasn’t ………
By "The Corporal"
October 16, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
P.S.
You know ………. just for chuckles ………… I would give a month’s pay just to see a debate between Barry O. and Alan Keyes !
By getalife
October 16, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
Who picked Tampa Bay and Philly?
My teams got crushed.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this
RW,
good luck sucking on that ACORN.
not that you’re gonna get too much mileage out of it.
all it’s gonna do is bruise your tongue. again.
funny - you’re the expert on “mocking”. good luck with that, too.
you and I both know what that racist witch was up to when she made those bills.
and yes, in my eyes, you are ALL klans men. and women.
Night, @@.
By Dusty
October 16, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this
Well, I am changing the subject BUTTTT..
Is Luckovich letting his children draw his cartoons? They get worse and worse. Today’s is not clever. Just childish.
And…
Bookman, McCain was the WINNER in this last debate. Sorry you did not notice, but Gallup did.
Oh, I saw that a liberal here wrote that Ayers, the ‘reformed’ American terrorist and Obama friend, was just a professor trying to improve education. I wonder what Ayers teaches? Bombanomics?? He said he wished he could have done more. It seems The NYC Police Dept, the Capitol and the Pentagon did not satisfy his yearning to blow up America.
Obama surely did know how to find strange friends. You really ought to read up on Ayers.
By getalife
October 16, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this
Very impressive T.
Future politician?
By RW-(the original)
October 16, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Going into the LCS games I picked both Philly and Tampa Bay. Unfortunately you also had to correctly call the number of games and I had Philly in six and Tampa in seven.
Looks like both in five.
By getalife
October 16, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
Well done RW.
Should be a good series.
By Frederick Douglass
October 16, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this
How long do you think it’d take for Alan Keyes to become a socialist, that consorted with 1940’s era Nazis, that got caught cross dressing at a kindergarten? Alan Keyes, Colin Powell, J.C. Watts, Herman Cain, and any prominent African American knows that if they want their names to remain unsullied, they’d better stay away from the POTUS position. I’ll be mighty surprised if Barack Obama doesn’t do a lengthy jail sentence for stomping ants, if he loses this election.
By Greg Mendel
October 16, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this
By now pretty much everybody has decided which candidate they want to vote for — including some who won’t vote. I’m wondering who these “undecideds” are, and what it will take for them to decide.
Are the “undecideds”lying? Just back from alien abduction? Plain stupid?
Will they be able to find their polling places? Will someone pin their names on their shirts?
By Marc
October 16, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this
Greg,
The undecideds are all of the above and ACORN is only too happy to “help” them.
By Midori
October 16, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this
LOL,
The republicans are still raging against nuts.
The funny thing is, that’s their party’s mascot.
By GodHatesTrash
October 17, 2008 5:54 AM | Link to this
Hey - I’m on to something here - has anyone ever seen RW and the Crazy McCain Rally Lady at the same time?
Didn’t think so…
By AJC/DNC Management
October 17, 2008 5:59 AM | Link to this
When asked at the time to produce one instance of McCain deploying race, the Obama campaign could not. Yet here was Obama firing a pre-emptive charge of racism against a man who had not indulged in it. An extraordinary rhetorical feat, and a dishonorable one.
Oblahma lies about his past, lies about his voting record, lies about his policies.
But he did tell us he would spread the wealth around.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 17, 2008 6:06 AM | Link to this
Now the Urinal is attacking the little guy:
Turns out that the man who was held up by John McCain as the typical, hard-working American taxpayer isn’t really a licensed plumber. And court documents show the suburban Toledo, Ohio, man owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes.
So what does this have to do with Oblahma “spreading the wealth around?”
Savages.
By Paul
October 17, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Jay (posted at 4:06pm)
[[Against his better political judgment, McCain let the GOP base bully him into… picking Sarah Palin.]]
This was the surprise announcement, greeted by “Sara Who?” with the press saying “wait, wait, we don’t know about her, we haven’t vetter her!!!”
and you assert McCain picked her because he was “bullied into it by the GOP base?”
Recommendation: Starbucks. Double espresso at 4pm.