Jay Bookman

By ByteMe

October 16, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

OH NO!!! FairTax(tm) Troll Alert!!! Incoming!!!!

By Mike

October 16, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Remember the “kill him” scandal that the Times and the rest of the media used to finish McCain?

It never happened:

“SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded. The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him.”

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.”

http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/SecretServicesaysKillhimallegationunfounded_.html

For those of you who don’t think you are being spun by a dishonest media, I’ve got a bridge for sale.

By ByteMe

October 16, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Jay, you didn’t want Jim Galloway over at Political Insider to get all the good comments today once he mentioned this ad, didja? You betcha!

Actually, Jim went the distance and also mentioned that Boortz went on the rampage this morning against Jim Martin over this ad. Brought out all the nutjobs with one post.

By TW

October 16, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

How will the flat tax ever get debated if its proponents do get off the ruse of 23%?

By Joey

October 16, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

The headline is incorrect. Instead of Dems it should read we. At least be honest about that.

You are a Dem.

By Taxpayer

October 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

What! FairTax[tm]! Well, Jay, you just had to go and bring up that topic again, didn’t you. If those stupid little idiots start showing up over here arguing about all the good that the FairTax[tm] will bring to society again, I might just have to…well…I’m OK. I’ll stay calm. I’m OK, now.

By TW

October 16, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Mike - how about the ‘off with his head’ comment? Of the zillions of inbreds chanting ‘terrorist’ as they file in to see Separationist Sarah? I thought Republicans were hot to kill all terrorsits?

Got to take the good with the bad, Mike. If the base wasn’t stupid in the first place, your lord and savior ‘w’ would have never been elected.

Be grateful, Mike - you just might like it :-)

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Their is no such thing as a fair tax in today’s style of governance.

Our government has become an entity completely independent of We The People, and now looks upon us as merely a source of their income and votes to keep them in elected office.

After that, they couldn’t care freaking less.

And any wanker that spends more than five seconds scheming on how they go about extorting our money from us, is just that, a wanker.

So wank away, democrats.

By RealityKing

October 16, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Fair taxation is a socialistic illusion.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

In spite of Farrakhan’s long history as a racist, bigot and anti-Semite, Obama thought favorably enough of him to join Farrakhan’s 1995 march on Washington, D.C. Reportedly, Obama joined Reverends Jeremiah Wright and Al Sharpton in organizing the march.-AmSpec

Beam me up, barry!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

In an early example of his slipperiness, Senator Obama stood with his fellow Democrats in opposing the bill. Then he went on record opposing his own vote by writing the Secretary of the Treasury that subprime mortgages are dangerous. As has been said of other evasive politicians, Obama is a chameleon on plaid. Apparently a chameleon on plaid can escape the media’s accountability even as he boldly opposes stricter regulations on subprime loans while writing the Treasury to oppose such loans. Yet how is it that the media have given the entire Democratic Party a pass on their advocacy of subprime loans?-AmSpec

The truth comes out.

“Out” of the Conservative media, shees.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

The FBI is investigating whether Democratic U.S. Rep. Tim Mahoney broke any laws or misused federal money when he hired a mistress to work in his office, a senior federal law enforcement official told The Associated Press. -AP

Duh.

By getalife

October 16, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

I am for no tax like Joe the plumber:

LUCAS COUNTY COURT OF COMMON PLEAS J. BERNIE QUILTER, CLERK 700 ADAMS STREET TOLEDO, OHIO

MONETARY AMOUNT: $1,182.98

DEPT OF TAXATION STATE OF OHIO

Defendant 1: WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J 30 DERBYSHIRE RD TOLEDO, OH 43615

No taxation without representation.

By Truth

October 16, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Giving out his address is pathetic… even for an Obama worshiper…

By hillbilly ragger

October 16, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Excellent! I’m glad that it’s being used to hammer away at Saxby, couldn’t happen to a nicer guy and all.

But shouldn’t we take a moment to hammer away at the simpleton who’s actually more responsible for this dopey scheme, John Linder?

Linder has an opponent, too: Doug Heckman. He could use a few bucks. Rational people, please consider donating; I did.

By Dawggy Style

October 16, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

HB Raghead,

Can you spot me $100 for the Heckman campaign? I’ll pay you back as soon as I get my entitlement check from the government.

By getalife

October 16, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Truth,

The media are at his house today.

Stop your whining.

McCain made him an issue.

By TN Gelding

October 16, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Retirees, calculate your “savings” here.

By "The Corporal"

October 16, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Thankgoodness someone has some guts in the Senate:

Senate Intelligence Official: Obama Would Endanger Us

Oct 16, 2008

If Barack Obama wins the presidency, he will endanger the country by making us more vulnerable to terrorist attacks, the vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence tells Newsmax.

Obama “would so weaken our security forces that I personally believe that we would be in much greater danger of terrorist attacks in the United States and abroad,” says Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo. “I’m very much concerned, because he’s shown weak judgment throughout his career. Throughout his campaign he has taken one position after another that just doesn’t make sense in fighting the war on terror.”

By Truth

October 16, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Nobody is whining you bedwetter… I just said it is pathetic for you to give out his address. Do you think the media is putting his address on tv?

By Bosch

October 16, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

Didn’t we cover this kind of crap the other day?

Good lord you guys are desperate. Bringing up old stories and fear mongering. Give it a rest. Move on to something else - I don’t know, throw something else ridiculous out there like - if Obama becomes President, the aliens sent here to Earth decades ago will be turned on by the mother ship and start enslaving the human population.

Hell, at least that’s entertaining.

By Mike

October 16, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

“By TW October 16, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this Mike - how about the ‘off with his head’ comment? Of the zillions of inbreds chanting ‘terrorist’ as they file in to see Separationist Sarah? I thought Republicans were hot to kill all terrorists? Got to take the good with the bad, Mike. If the base wasn’t stupid in the first place, your lord and savior ‘w’ would have never been elected. Be grateful, Mike - you just might like it :-)”

Haven’t even heard the “off with your head” line reported anywhere, but hey, you guys can keep saying whatever lies you want. No reporter is ever going to follow up on whatever lies you make up. Regardless, you hypocrisy is a joke. This board is full of hateful liberal as are Obama’s rallies. Nobody has ever tried to hold Obama accountable for the hateful ranting of folks like yourself and Goldie.

If you really think hate speech (even the made up kind) is so wrong, then why do you engage in it? Could it be because you are a hypocrite?

BTW: The “secessionist” (“separationist isn’t a word) line of attack has been disproved ages ago. Clearly you are willing to believe any slander that is hurled at any politician that doesn’t share your narrow ideology. Keep on bleating hate speech at anyone with an R in front of his name. It shows what an intelligent and independent thinker you are.

By Taxpayer

October 16, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Truth,

Did you need me to answer any more of your questions. You’ve been fairly quiet since my last reply. I do hope that I was able to help you. Do you have any questions about the FairTax[tm]? Feel free to ask. If I don’t have the answer to your question, I’m sure others will.

By Copyleft

October 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Breaking story from NewsMax:

Senate Committe Member Is Blind, Partisan Republican Hack

By "The Corporal"

October 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Just remember folks, if you vote for Obama there’s no taking it back.

By Mike

October 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

getalife -

Do you call people “punk” to their face or just when you are online?

I guess what I am asking is are you incapable of carrying on a civil conversation under any circumstances or if you act differently when you don’t have to face the target of your name calling?

Also, what does adding “punk” to the end of statement do other than give outlet to your rage?

Thanks

By E

October 16, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

The conservatives want smaller government but they never think about all the things they depend on from that government, and how these services are supposed to be paid for.

The whole “people are poor because they are lazy” argument is infuriating as well.

It’s not my taxes I object to paying - it’s the extra taxes I pay so the rich don’t have to.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By getalife

October 16, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

See Mike.

Talk to your boy.

By Bosch

October 16, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Good God, Truth,

You amaze me that you are all the time so proud of being a Christian, but resort to such lewd behavior.

Grow up, please - have you ever wondered that’s why you aren’t where you want to be in life?

By AmVet

October 16, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

I don’t know much at all about this Joe “Whatever His Last Name Is” guy, but I thought something smelled fishy about him, right from the get go.

And my research has turned up some VERY interesting things.

Oh yeah, he’s a plumber, alright. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

Turns out, he’s actually the adopted love child of G. Gordon Liddy and E. Howard Hunt. (Who knew they were Log Cabin Republicans?!)

And you nitwits thought those old CREEPS for Nixon bumper stickers in the house of “Joe the Plumber” weren’t important…

By Truth

October 16, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Sorry Bisch, but I am fed up with your people (not being racist if you happen to be of color…. I am talking about Democrats)

By Truth

October 16, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Sorry Bosch, but I am fed up with your people (not being racist if you happen to be of color…. I am talking about Democrats)

By GFY

October 16, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Some people think my name is something that is unmentionable but those people clearly have dirty thoughts for my name is actually nothing more, or less, than a simple compliment and I am so happy to see people use it instead of truly filthy words. So, I say Good For You if you happen to be a devout user of my name.

By "The Corporal"

October 16, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

To Amvet

Did you know (just for the record) that Lee Harvey Oswald got his job a the Texas School Book Depository a couple of months before the White House announced they were coming to Dallas let alone before the parade route was announced.

Interesting ……………

By realitycheck

October 16, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Corporal makes Mgmt actually appear somewhat intelligent.

By getalife

October 16, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Looks like our friends on the right have finally realized their party is going to lose.

It is sinking in and they are sore losers.

It is best for the country so deal with it.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it just like the liberals to attack the little people that they purport to wanna help?:

Joe the Plumber said Thursday he doesn’t have a license and doesn’t need one…..But the county Wurzelbacher and his employer live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses…….As he leaned against the Dodge Durango SUV parked in his driveway Thursday morning, Wurzelbacher indicated to reporters who crowded around that he was a conservative, a fan of the military and McCain.-Yahoo

But not a peep about the Big Wig that he would “spread Joe’s wealth around.”

Dodging the issues, toadies?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

SEATTLE —An exclusive KIRO Team 7 Investigation discovers the state will send ballots to thousands of convicted felons in the next week, even though many can’t legally vote.

KIRO-TV recently ran its own data to double check the state’s work. Investigative Reporter Chris Halsne found out the system was set up to ignore the existence of approximately 24,000 convicted felons.-kirotv

Who registered them?

By Mike

October 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

“By getalife October 16, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this Looks like our friends on the right have finally realized their party is going to lose.

It is sinking in and they are sore losers.

It is best for the country so deal with it.”

Well, I am your friend on the right and I look forward to giving Obama the benefit of the doubt,. I think he has run a clean campaign (in large part because the media did the dirty work for him) and that he is an impressive individual.

In fact, a lot of conservatives are talking about sucking it up and getting behind Obama until he gives us reason to do otherwise. The partisans on this board no more represent the right than folks like yourself represent the left.

Partisanship ruined Clinton and Bush. It’s time for conservatives to break the death grip.

By Truth

October 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Im not a sore loser, but I am not here to be a good sport either… I am here because I am so worried about the socialist nation America is turning into and how you people seem to encourage it. Thank God for small town people like me and my neighbors who refuse to fall under the Obama trance!

By hillbilly ragger

October 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Truth, you seem laudibly concerned about Joe-the-Republican-Plumber’s privacy rights. I’m glad you believe in a right to privacy!

However, I don’t remember you complaining when the right wing decided to go after a 12-year-old boy for being on the wrong side of the SCHIP funding battle.

Am I wrong? Did you voice similar concerns at the time?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

And by the way, I just noticed that the IBD/TIPP poll, the most accurate in 2004, has McCain down by just 3 points. If the contest is perceived by the voters as a contest between a wealth redistributor and a wealth creator, then it could be a long night come Nov. 4. This is still a center-right country, gang. Note this Gallup poll from June:

When given a choice about how government should address the numerous economic difficulties facing today’s consumer, Americans overwhelmingly—by 84% to 13%—prefer that the government focus on improving overall economic conditions and the jobs situation in the United States as opposed to taking steps to distribute wealth more evenly among Americans.-USNews

And that, my friends, is the whole story.

By Bosch

October 16, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Truth,

I think your fed up because you can’t admit to yourself there some truth to what you read from those you don’t necessarily agree with.

And be honest, blaming everything on the Democrats or the liberals is ludicrous and hypocritical.

Don’t become one of those posters that resorts to lewd comments when they are frustrated or they can’t come up with anything. Sometimes it’s better to just not comment.

Getting frustrated is fine, we all get frustrated, but at least be honest.

By "The Corporal"

October 16, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

To realitycheck

This may be hard for you to grasp but I meant that as metaphoric hyperbole. Most people I think got that.

Look it up.

By T

October 16, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Do you think we can agree that both parties are for wealth redistribution?

I guess it just depends on whom you think should receive said wealth.

By Swami Dave

October 16, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

E:

Regardless of what simplistic talking points one uses, the statement that “poor people are poor because they are lazy” is false. The more accurate statement is: most “poor” people are poor because they act / make decisions that prevent the accumulation of income / wealth.

Money, like most other inanimate items in the universe, acts / responds in expected ways. If you act / behave in specific ways, it tends to accumulate. Likewise, if you act / behave in other ways, it never does.

The vast majority of our “poor” have televisions, cable, playstations, cellphones, etc. Regardless of what our culture tells us, these are all luxury items and should be purchased with disposable income; not income that one needs for day-to-day expenses or wealth accumulation.

It is neither your nor my responsiblity to finance a continuation of poor lifestyle choices such as these. In the end, redistribution schemes, like Senator Obama’s that perpetuate such behavior, does no service to either the one who receives the unearned benefit or the one from whom it was taken to provide.

As for you contention that you get angry about the taxes that you pay so that “the rich don’t have to”. You only need look at the Treasury & IRS data to note that those in the higher income levels (approx. top 5%) already pay the lions share of income taxes in this country. I believe that the most recent numbers are they make about 30% of this nations income and pay just under 50% of the income taxes on it. The bottom 50% of earners pay less than 5% of the income taxes with the majority of them paying none at all.

If you are fed up with a group of people “not paying their share” or “carrying their burden of the load”, you need not look to the rich as those shirking their responsiblity. Regardless of what Senator Obama tells you.

Have a good one.

-Swami Dave

By Bosch

October 16, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Truth,

“I am so worried about the socialist nation America is turning into and how you people seem to encourage it”

What the hell (I can say bad words because I don’t pretend to be pious)? Who are these “you people” you speak of? The Republicans? Good lord, wake up! Have you even been paying attention at all?

If your worried about American being turned into a socialist state, then VOTE FOR OBAMA! He’s trying to fix that little problem!

By Tom

October 16, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

FLASH!!! I lack the time to peruse the above stuff.

Are you aware that Joe The Plumber lacks a……LICENSE?!?

I sensed such a thing by looking into hero-McCain’s eyes. They’re getting beadier by the day. Let’s say a good Murcun Khristyun prayer for…Joe!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 16, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

From Seattle to San Diego, from Burlington, Vermont to New York City, from New Orleans to Texas and Midwest towns like Cleveland, I am hearing hushed admissions of a terrible sin: “Father, I’m not going to vote for Obama.”

And I think it all has much more to do with Obama, the candidate, and his plans to “spread the wealth,” nominate very liberal federal judges and bow to Planned Parenthood, than with his ethnicity.-Father Johnathan Morris.

By Carolyn

October 16, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Does anybody else think that maybe Joe the Plumber is confusing gross revenues with net profit when he thinks the business is making more than $250K? It makes a lot more sense, but it would be embarassing for him to admit it.

By Truth

October 16, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Bosch… I am being honest. What else do you want me to say? I have never been to take crap from anyone and I have the scars to prove it. I am not going to sit here and let one of your buddies talk down to me or run their mouth to me without returning fire. I promise I am holding back. If they would come at me like an adult (like yourself) then it wouldnt get personal. Oh, and I dont blame the Democrats for everything. Believe me, the Bush administration has spent way too much. Did he ever veto a spending bill? There is plenty of blame to go around, but this Obama guy… I cant stand him. His ability to say nothing and wow the masses scares the hell out of me. Do you realize that the majoriy of democrats one here call McCain names all day. I never once called Obama anything but Obama. Seeing all of your people mocking and calling McCain names takes a toll on me because I consider it a shot at me. So yes… another word for my mood is frustrated.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 16, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Off Topic but Fun

McCain fundraiser accused of “war profiteering

You’ll wonder where your money went When you pick a GOP President!

By Mike

October 16, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

So let me get this straight. The same people who have been complaining that Bill Ayers is irrelevant are gleefully reporting the fact that some plumber doesn’t have a license?

I agree that the Ayers thing is a joke, but the plumber thing is even more so.

By demwit

October 16, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

There’s only one thing you need to know to be a plumber, and/or a president. S** always runs downhill..

By Terri

October 16, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Truth (4:06) In other words, you’re a rednecked hick?? Joe SixPack.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 16, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

It is being reported that:

Florida’s governor says his fellow Republicans may be exaggerating claims of voter fraud in the state.

D’OH.

By TW

October 16, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

If you really think hate speech (even the made up kind) is so wrong, then why do you engage in it? Could it be because you are a hypocrite?

Mike - I feel really bad about upsetting you to the point where you feel the need to name call. I forgot the Republicans traded in ‘tough’ with fiscal responsibility. I also don’t think the old school GOP would be real happy about you sympathizing with the secessionists.

God I miss the real Republicans.

By RealityKing

October 16, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Citizens in Kansas are reporting strange charges appearing on their credit card statements this month — $2,300 donations to Senator Obama’s campaign.

Better check you statements.., Obama and his progressively corrupt cronies will do anything to win.

By Truth

October 16, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Terri… And proud of it!

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 16, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

That McCain free cell tower thing gets some scrutiny here

By Bud Wiser

October 16, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Having been away all day and just now finished reading the latest 3 threads by Jay, I have come to the decision that this may be the most pathetic collection of dysfunctional clowns and idiots from both party supporters that I have ever seen.

The leftists call conservatives everything from KKK to unrepeatable, and then counter serve from the right. Links from God knows where show up, full of distortions and lies. Insults fly. Is there anyone here with even a partially functioning brain besides me?

Election day is soon, and the results will be the results. You idiots, toads and trolls have absolutely no influence whatsoever on this national outcome, so go ahead and blow your nose and watch what passes for your brain matter to spatter on the floor.

The only thing the left needs to worry about quite frankly, is if the white majority shows up and votes along color lines. There’s no poll out there that can predict that uncertainty, and if this polarization continues as it has, then we could be headed for a showdown.

The right has to worry that they won’t show up., because if they do not, McCain has virtually no chance. Even election day polls 2004 showed Kerry up 50-44%, and we all know how that turned out, but I wouldn’t bet the bank on that happening again.

Everyone is sick of G W Bush and Congress. The real pity here is that we cannot completely turn over the entire Congress in one fell swoop and reelect each and every one of them all at once. I’m going to take a weekend off and hope for sanity to appear when I return, but frankly I do not expect that either.

Go ahead and spit on each other.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 16, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

You know, when you look at how much information the media has been able to get about Joe the Plumber in less than 24 hrs, imagine what they could get about Obama if they made any effort whatsoever. It’s amazing. They’re dragging the guy through the mud like Sarah Palin, but they can’t tell us where Obama was born? But no, there’s no bias there….. Pathetic.

By Bosch

October 16, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Truth,

“I cant stand him. His ability to say nothing and wow the masses scares the hell out of me”

Replace “him” with “her” - in other words, Palin - and you’ll know a little ‘bout how I feel.

McCain lost any kind of cred with me when he nominated her.

Anywho - just had to say that.

Um, Truth, this isn’t a social networking site (although Paul and I discuss Battlestar Galactica sometimes, and Paul and N-GA discuss fine wines, etc.) - my buddies? What the hell?

Do you also realize that a majority of wingnuts on this blog call Obama names all day long too?

No, you’re not being honest if you don’t see it comes both ways.

That’s a good life lesson for many things.

You “can’t stand” Obama? Why not? I can give a sensible reason WHY I’m not voting for McCain - not one full of misleading information I’ve heard or irrational fears that are based on dishonesty.

By Taxpayer

October 16, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Truth,

Did you need any more questions answered? If you will so kindly note, I answered the questions that you posed in an earlier thread today. I do hope my answers satisfied your curiosity. If you would like, I will re-post them here and save you the trouble of searching for them. Would you like me to do that for you? Also, if you have any other questions, young man, just speak right up. As you may have noticed, people are not shy around this neck of the woods.

By Truth

October 16, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Bosch…

• Rev. Wright
• Ayers
• Frank Marshall Davis
• His wife just became proud to be American a few months ago
• Infanticide
• I dont believe he is tough enough on terrorism

Just a few.

I understand republicans on here have called Obama names, but I havent and that was what I was saying. So I was being honest. Even though we pretty much totally disagree on every issue, I can appreciate the way you have come at me with your disagreements… time after time. And Im a not as frustrated now… Thank you! lol Have a wonderful night watch The Office… Probably the funniest show on tv IMHO.

By Steve Keller

October 16, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

It is beyond belief that anyone is not for a national sales tax to replace our current broken, complicated tax system. Let’s assume we are a brand new country and we are in the process of establishing a Federal Government and a tax system. Mr. Bookman if the FairTax was one option, and our current tax system was the other option, do you actually believe our founding fathers would choose our current system over the FairTax?

By sunshine and thunder

October 16, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

JAY

You and your fellow income tax lovers are being woefully ignorant once again. At least you are merely ignorant. Jim Martin is LYING about the FairTax (among other things).

So you want to put a bald-faced liar in the Senate representing Georgians?

If he’s not LYING he is incredibly DUMB.

But we all know he isn’t dumb. Those that vote for the LIAR JIM MARTIN are, however.

By vanno

October 17, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

If Joe the plumber endorses the fairtax on huckabee this weekend, saxby will survive and the fairtax will get a much-needed boost of PR.

By luangtom

October 17, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

I just love the ads by the Dems for Senate that neglect to include that the Fair Tax that they so adamantly attach to Saxby Chambliss does away in most senses of the word the Personal Income Tax in its original draft. There are other nations that have Value Added Tax (VAT) on their goods and services sold and have refunds for many categories of payers, just like an Income Tax Refund. It can work, if not burdened with amendments for liberal social programs. So, Democrats for Senate, please include the whole of the programs you so demonize.