Jay Bookman

By Maniac is accurate

October 15, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Yeah, if this were a biopic by a credible director, I would be interested to see how W became who and what he is. But JFK proved Stone is all about a good story, truth be damned.

By Bosch

October 15, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

No Jay, not just you. Although, I must admit, clever use of the great song “Once in a Lifetime” by the Talking Heads in the trailer.

My take on using that song is that the producers want to trick people like me who love the Talking Heads and despise GWB into thinking it’s going to be a parody of him.

I saw Oliver Stone on the Colbert Report - he’s creepy.

By "The Corporal"

October 15, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

On another note

Regarding those who think teenagers should be voting.

In 1939, the freshman class at Princeton voted Adolf Hitler the greatest living person. Albert Einsten (a professor there) was second and Neville (Obama) Chamberlain was third.

Source: “Einstein” by Walter Jackson; New York Times, November 28, 1939.

By Swami Dave

October 15, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Yeah, but look for it to be another in the long line of left-wing hatchet jobs (like Moore’s garbage) that gets lauded at Oscar time. It’ll just be another on the list of box office debacles that real Americans wouldn’t waste their time or money to watch.

Sounds like we will both save our money (even if for different reasons).

-Swami Dave

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Jay,

I, for one, will not go to see that movie. I just cannot imagine living through that all over again. Further, to pay dearly for it, again, seems like, well, living through it all over again, again. Or, perhaps they plan on allowing viewers to charge it.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 15, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Well hell, it only makes sense.

“W” has not been a winner anywhere.

By David

October 15, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

I’ll wait till it comes to tv.

As far as Stone’s movies go, I vastly prefer his straight fictional movies like “Wall Street” and “Platoon” over the docu-dramas.

By getalife

October 15, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

It’s a disaster movie like Titanic.

Folks like a good train wreck and disaster movies, so it will do okay.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

It sure would be nice if you could just rid yourself of freaks that compose the democrat party but then who would be left to cast votes for your candidates?

All of the deceased and the Dallas Cowboys?

Oliver Stone belongs to you.

By Davo

October 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Every clip I’ve seen of this movie makes it look like a comedy. Why would I pay to see this when all I have to do is look around to see the laughable, zany, maddness that W has brought to our country?

By getalife

October 15, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Looks like Powell is going to endorse Obama. Condi should follow his lead.

An opportunity for the bushies who gave us the Iraq occupation, a way to save their souls by endorsing Obama.

The WH is busted on waterboarding and torture.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

This should scare the living hell out of any sane person:

We need to do more, By Nancy Pelosi- In September, as we moved quickly to help rescue Wall Street and our financial system

I pray for you America.

By ByteMe

October 15, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Jay, any movie with a talking squirrel in it will do reasonably well. A movie about politics we’re living through? Nah.

By Eric1

October 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

I think you’re right on target, Jay. I change the channel everytime his stupid face appears on TV. Would I pay to see the movie? Sure, when Miss Management gets a brain.

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

All right, Andy. Why should such a statement from Pelosi “scare the living hell out of any sane person”. Further, what the hell is “the living hell” that you refer to. Finally, pray for yourself. You apparently need it more than any one I know.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 15, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

I don’t believe the polls that suggest a possible Obama landslide. Playing the race card explicitly merely guarantees what I have thought from the beginning — racism in this country precludes the possibility of a sepia-colored man becoming president.-Chicago Sun Times/ POS

Got that America, you racist scumbags?

By CwnBt

October 15, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Looks like Powell is going to endorse Obama.

Washington, D.C. (AHN) - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell testified as a character witness to Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) late Friday, saying the Alaskan lawmaker had a “sterling” reputation for integrity.

Powell, a former four-star Army general and the first African-American secretary of state, said he had known Stevens for 25 years, and that in all those years the senator had never shown a “lack of integrity.”

By Bosch

October 15, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

OMG - Cheney is experiencing heart problems.

Do I go there……………????

Nah. Bad Karma.

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

ByteMe,

Talking chipmunks have done well at the movies. I’m not so sure about the squirrels. People tend to think of them as, well, rodents with fluffy tails. Then again, a good horror flick along the lines of Hitchcock’s Birds except with rabid squirrels diving from the trees onto unsuspecting passersby…that might sell.

By RW-(the original)

October 15, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AP) - Too busy playing video games to watch presidential ads on television? Barack Obama has found you, too, by becoming the first presidential candidate to buy ad space inside a game

Nine video games from Electronic Arts Inc., ranging from the extremely popular “Madden 09” football game to the street racing “Burnout: Paradise,” feature in-game ads from the Obama campaign. The ads—they appear on billboards and other signage—remind players that early voting has begun and plug a campaign Web site

I guess the Barack Obama that was telling everybody to put down the video games while he was campaigning in the primaries wasn’t the Barack Obama he knew.

In all seriousness, doesn’t he stand a chance of becoming so ubiquitous that people start turning away?

By RealityKing

October 15, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Shady relations to crooked people

Millions in illegal donations

Divisive race baiting

Massive voter fraud

Promises he can’t keep

Unprecedented media bias

No.., Barrack’s not a Clinton yet, but he’s definitely gotten a good start. I probably won’t be watching that movie either.

By E

October 15, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Breaking News -

VP Cheney experiences abnormal heart rhythm.

I didn’t know he had one.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Goldie

October 15, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

JAY— no, it’s not just you… I can’t stomach revisiting the nightmare of the past 8 years right now. I believe the movie would do much better about 1 year from now or even later on than that…

By Goldie

October 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Bosch @ 10:57 — maybe John Lennon’s “Instant Karma” is having a delayed reaction…

By E

October 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

I would not pay to see it, but I sure hope Josh Brolin portrays Bush for the idiot he is. From the trailer I’ve seen, it appears he does.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By hillbilly ragger

October 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

getalife, I’ve been hearing that rumor that “Colin’s gonna endorse” for months now. Not gonna happen.

And seriously, Condi? a sitting Sec’y of State endorsing the other party’s Presidential candidate? Even I don’t think that’d be appropriate.

By GMAN

October 15, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

The use of the term “race card” is an attempt to trivialize the issue of race in this country and make people confortable in not taking ownership of it. It places the responsibility of the issue solely in the laps of the minority and takes the majority of the hook. Until everyone in this country takes a good hard look at themselves and how they relate to others, we will continue to have those that choose to remain in darkness.

Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s futures… and losing!

By cranky old man

October 15, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

The Corporal,

Interesting note about Princeton students in the 1930’s thinking Hitler was great. Of course, in the 1930’s, Princeton’s students were all polo-playing legacies with names like Thurston Howell III.

By getalife

October 15, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Yeah, Cheney needs another shock to his heart.

No big deal. He had the same procedure in Nov. I guess his pacemaker needs replaced.

After open heart surgery, they have two wires hanging out attached to the heart and a machine.

They shock it when it goes abnormal. Very strange pain when they do it but no big deal.

By ByteMe

October 15, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer: I hate chipmunks. Stupid critters digging tunnels all over my yard. I like the movie idea.

RW: You think the person who plays video games enough to notice the billboards would also watch TV for political ads? Nah.

I posted a link to a picture of the ad yesterday. The in-game ad is a get-out-the-vote effort and the 25-year-old males that live on those games are the perfect target for that effort and also make up a core of Obama’s support. It’s genius marketing when you can get the messages and medium to align like that.

By RealityKing

October 15, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

I wonder if Oliver interviewed the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. You know the 57 million people who now live in 2 brand new Middle East democracies. The very benefactors of America’s sacrifices, those who now have an opportunity at achieving the same dream that most Americans take for granted. That great dream of life, liberty and the persuit of happiness. How could any movie on W be called complete without them??

By lrd

October 15, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Follow the race discussion, from Blazing Saddles.. is this America on Nov 5th ?> Bart: Are we awake? Jim: We’re not sure. Are we… black? Bart: Yes, we are. Jim: Then we’re awake… but we’re very puzzled.

By RW-(the original)

October 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Still think there’s no evidence of voter fraud and simply registration fraud?

Voter fraud alert: Houseful of out-of-state Obama activists registered as Ohio voters, received absentee ballots

I bet you can find examples of this in college towns all over the swing states where multiple different people/names sharing an address wouldn’t really raise many red flags.

By lrd

October 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Talking Movies and Race, from Blazing Saddles ( which is the funniest movie ever and includes race) IS this how America going to wake up on Nov 5th?

Bart: Are we awake? Jim: We’re not sure. Are we… black? Bart: Yes, we are. Jim: Then we’re awake… but we’re very puzzled.

By getalife

October 15, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

RW,

Too bad there is no accountability in this country.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 15, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

If Oblahma gets elected we will all be sitting home playing video games, at least until the new superpower of the world decides it wants our natural resources.

Should be a fun couple of years though.

Maybe it was Nintendo’s idea, knowing that we would all soon be dhimmis mindlessly worshipping our new dear leader?

By Albert

October 15, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

If it’s a movie like “JFK”, it will be trash. but if it portrays GW as a buffoon, it will at least be entertaining to see exactly how Oliver Stone makes him look stupid.

And the idea of Richard Dreyfuss (Mr. Holland himself) playing Dick Cheney is somehow irresistible.

By ByteMe

October 15, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

RW: And your answer? A national ID? No absentee ballots? Prosecute the frauds?

Ok, the last is being done, I’m sure. Prosecutors are standing by!

But finding one needle in a haystack on Psycho-Malkin’s site isn’t going to change this election. It’s not going to be close enough for that.

But it gives Republicans an excuse to vent about how unfair life really is when you’re about to lose power.

Or you can just be nutty and create something like http://www.postponetheelection.com.

By getalife

October 15, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Preemptive dem talking points:

• This is John McCain’s last chance to turn this race around and somehow convince the American people that his erratic response to this economic crisis doesn’t disqualify him from being President.

• Just this weekend the weekend, John McCain vowed to “whip Obama’s you-know-what” at the debate, and he’s indicated that he’ll be bringing up Bill Ayers to try to distract voters.

• So we know that Senator McCain will come ready to attack Barack Obama and bring his dishonorable campaign tactics to the debate stage.

Obama continues to lead on the economic crisis with a rescue plan for Main Street.

• Over the course of the campaign, Barack Obama has laid out a set of policies that will grow our middle class and strengthen our economy.

• But he knows we face an immediate economic emergency that requires urgent action - on top of the plans he’s already laid out - to help workers and families and communities struggling right now.

• That’s why Barack Obama is introducing a comprehensive four-part Rescue Plan for the Middle Class - to immediately to stabilize our financial system, provide relief to families and communities, and help struggling homeowners.

• This is a plan that can and should be implemented immediately.

• Obama has shown steady leadership during this crisis and offered concrete solutions to move the country forward - and his Rescue Plan for the Middle Class builds on the plans to strengthen the economy and rebuild the middle class that he’s laid out over the course of this campaign.

• Already in this campaign, he’s unveiled plans to give 95 percent of workers and their families a tax cut, eliminate income taxes for seniors making under $50,000, bring down the cost of health care for families and businesses; and create millions of new jobs by investing in the renewable energy sources.

• John McCain has been erratic and unsteady since this crisis began - staggering from position to position and trying to change the subject away from the economy by launching false character attacks.

By Dusty

October 15, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Wrong again, Bookman.

Nobody wants to pay good money to see a sorry movie. A liberal’s slant on a Republican president is bound to be a piece of unabated hate that has persisted for almost eight years. Who needs it? Nobody.

Michael Moore proved that. He spent a lot of time and money on a movie to slander the President. It lasted just long enough for liberals to dump praise on it. Then it was gone.

Hollywood is Dante’s inferno. Give up your soul for the desires of your life. Oliver Stone produces one more example of that life style.

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

What! A Super power would invade another sovereign nation for its natural resources. The shock of it — the Awe. Perhaps if they announce in advance that they come in peace.

By Amelia

October 15, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

I’m not a Bush fan or an Oliver Stone fan but I have to admit the movie looks entertaining and Josh Brolin is so handsome. Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying and since W only has a few more months left, maybe we can all laugh about it now.

Bosch, I too like the song “Once in a Lifetime”, and I also so Oliver Stone on Stephen Colbert. Yes, he is creepy.

I think I’ll rent this movie when it comes out on DVD.

By Bud Wiser

October 15, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

When you base your movie on a loser, produced by a loser, and filled with loser and has-beens, what the hell do you expect? Gone With The Wind?

BTW, I suddenly realized that GWTW would make an excellent reference starting point in this election on many fronts:

1.) Hollywood hass pretty much put the torch to any sense of credibility they may have had left by allowing this political drivel to splatter like a fire hose spewing garbage on the screen. I agree with Jay’s assessment of “I just don’t think people are going to pay money to go see a movie about a guy they can’t stand seeing on their TV screens for free.”

2.) Like Scarlett, The Token One has put himself front and foremost, tossing all else aside.

3.) Slaves and ex-slaves (in the movie) are viewed both as clowns and as faithful servants, much as the Democratic Party leadership views their black following today; they are there, but taken for granted. GWTW was hardly alone in the 1930s in its caricature of African American characters, but it did offer previously unavailable opportunities to such black actors as Hattie McDaniel (Mammy), Butterfly McQueen (Prissy), and Eddie Anderson (Uncle Peter).

Gone With the Wind was widely praised as a landmark achievement, and critics continue to regard it as important for its cinematography, art direction, and special effects, and for its ambitious portrayal of history. In a year that produced some of the best American films ever made, Gone With the Wind received thirteen Academy Award nominations in twelve categories (plus two nominations in special categories) and won eight awards, including Best Picture, Best Screenplay, Best Director, Best Actress (Vivien Leigh), Best Supporting Actress (Hattie McDaniel, a first for a black actress), Best Art Direction, Best Film Editing, and Best Cinematography, as well as a special award to William Cameron Menzies for use of color.

The Democrats perhaps should be cited also for their “ambitious portrayal of history “ with such great rewrites as the Kennedy years, Camelot, Bill Clinton, It Takes A Village, etc etc, and with a special award …. for use of color. Racists, for the most part, racists most assuredly that pose as liberals on this site.

The really truly sad and tragic result of it all is that the people used don’t even know it, or, choose to ignore it because it serves a political or ideological purpose.

Guess what that now makes them?

Racists.

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid, and racist

By GMAN

October 15, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Get your popcorn ready ladies and gentlemen! The debate tonight will be the final nail in the coffin for John “Mr. Magoo” McCain! His campaign is in disarray, his base is a mob with torches from an old Frankenstein flick, and his running mate couldn’t spell cat if you spotted her the “A” and the “T”. Watch tonight, once again, how a real man debates the issues of our day!

Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s futures… and losing!

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Stephen King should have done the movie. He already had a head start on it with his movie about the Republican party. I think it was called the Langoliers. I think it starred someone that looked strikingly like Sarah and she kept talking about the end of time or something like that.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Anyone who would vote for Obama should be prosecuted for treason, convicted of being a socialist moron, and then strung up from a tree -

Of course, I am sure that the 50% of you that feel otherwise would like to see the other 1/2 strung up for being overly in love with freedom and the opportunity to create a wondeful life for themselves - but then, who would pick up the tab?

Losers….

By Dusty

October 15, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer@12:18

You refer to a Super Power invading a sovereign nation for its natural resources. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE INVASION OF GEORGIA BY RUSSIA? Oh, the shock of it but NO awe.

You couldn’t be talking about the USA unless you are one of those anti-war protestors like Sheehan. But that is a possibility.

By DebbieDoRight

October 15, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

BudWizzer(D!ickhe#ad): Pulled from your link:

From July 8 -13, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,725 likely voters nationwide, with a margin of error of +/- 2.4 percentage points.

1,725 people polled, of how many of those 1,725 were black? No one knows it’s not showing up in the data; however my point is if you poll 10 black people for this survey and 9 of them support Obama, statistically YES you have 95% — however that’s NOT the entire black populace. Just a glimpse of the trend of the people that you’ve polled.

You know, is it me, or shouldn’t you already know this? This is like, what, 5th grade math? Aren’t you smarter than a 5th grader? Obviously not.

Oh and about that pig comment, you really shouldn’t talk about your VP candidate like that. It’s not nice, and I don’t think she looks that bad — especially when you put some lipstick on her…..

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

There’s talk of yet another stupid movie from the Republican party. It’s a tragic comedy of errors and mistaken identities called When Dagny met Bud — the john’s Lovechild.

By Fly_on_the_Wall

October 15, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Is AJC/DNC on drugs? Does he need to be? His first post was so off topic I had to do a double take. Sad, really sad.

By PinkoNeoConLibertarian

October 15, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

No to both of your positions Dag.

However, what I do believe in, is the Constitution and the guaranteed right to due process for ALL Americans. Yes, even the ones that I don’t agree with.

Obviously, based on your statements, you don’t.

By Bosch

October 15, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Back to these phony voter registration cards……………

So why is it that the wingnuts automatically scream foul against the Democrats?

Have you ever stopped to think they could have been turned in by McCain supporters?

Just saying.

By Bosch

October 15, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Amelia,

The Talking Heads are on my “top favorite bands list.” I hate to see one of their songs used in such a way!

I’d have to write Oliver Stone himself in protest if they had used a U2 song!

:-)

By AJC/DNC Management

October 15, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

The entire Hofstra campus is buzzing. Historical re-enactments were held 24 hours before Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama take the stage. There was Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass, a mock-slavery auction, women’s rights activists and civil rights speakers — all intended to “engage debate.”

“Engage debate” or hate on America?

By callmeshania

October 15, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

It’s possible that the W movie might tank. One one hand if you hate Bush why would you go to see a movie about Bush. And if you like Bush then you probably aren’t counting on someone like Oliver Stone to make a fair movie. IMHO!

By Ed

October 15, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Any Oliver Stone movie flops. The guy sucks as a producer, his best days are years behind him. Like Spielberg, Madonna and all the other has beens. They can’t accept the fact that they are no longer valid players in the entertainment industry. Only idiots keep them in a job by buying the crap they peddle. Most of the idiots doing this are democrats. What a look of shock on my face. How many republicans would pay money to see some worn out, no talent hack and skank like Madonna?

By Mike

October 15, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

The New York Times has a nice puff piece out on Obama in which he seizes on an important truth:

“I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls,” Obama told me. “If I were watching Fox News, I wouldn’t vote for me, right? Because the way I’m portrayed 24/7 is as a freak! I am the latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, politically correct, arrogant liberal. Who wants somebody like that?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/magazine/19obama-t.html?pagewanted=1&hp

The only question in my mind is how many points lower he would be if the rest of the media wasn’t destroying McCain.

By Fly_on_the_Wall

October 15, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

I agree with Bosch, I’m not so much worried about voter registration fraud but fraud within the voting process. I’m sure if you polled all of the states they see issues like this all the time. But since we’re in a Presidental election cycle it gets more attention. Plus, since ACORN itself turned in the offending registrations and not someone else I believe that ACORN actually can do self-management/regulation, unlike all of the Republican supported businesses that we are now bailing out.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 15, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Does this not tell you all about the Nobel “Peace” prize:

Krugman was one of many economists to serve as a consultant for an advisory board for Enron; he did this in 1999, being paid $37,500[26] before New York Times rules required him to resign when he took a job as a columnist in 2000.

NY Treason Times and Enron, resume of the premiere moonbat.

By Analchord

October 15, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Good point, Jay. W satire is too easy to write and there’s that cartoon lil’ W.

And all the impersonations. The funny pronouniations.

It’s all obsolete now. If I never see or hear W again, it’ll be on a VH1 retrospective on living ex-presidents with mall-rat, slut children who think they can dance.

By DebbieDoRight

October 15, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

ByteMe: Too funny!! Or they can try some more really good websites to go to, how about….

www.sinkingrepublicanship.com

www.youre-jealous-we’re-not.com

By AJC/DNC Management

October 15, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

By Moron_on_the_Wall October 15, 2008 12:42 PM Is AJC/DNC on drugs? Does he need to be? His first post was so off topic I had to do a double take. Sad, really sad.

“W” won’t be “winner” at box office By Jay kookman | Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 08:55 AM The Atlanta Urinal-Constitution I acknowledge that I’m probably not the target audience for “W.” I’ve never liked Oliver Stone movies.

By AJC/DNC Management October 15, 2008 10:09 AM Oliver Stone belongs to you.

Do tell us dullard, wtf are you talking about?

By hillbilly ragger

October 15, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Byteme, that Postponetheelection.com site is more fun than a barrel full of Luckotrools! Thanks!

By Mike

October 15, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

“By Analchord If I never see or hear W again, it’ll be on a VH1 retrospective on living ex-presidents with mall-rat, slut children who think they can dance.”

It’s posts like this that reinforce the fact that so many mindless Bush haters are general misanthropes who hate all kinds of people.

By getalife

October 15, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Another Racist Palin crowd in Ohio! (video by Al Jazeera)

By DebbieDoRight

October 15, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

How many republicans would pay money to see some worn out, no talent hack and skank like Madonna?

They pay to see Palin. What’s the difference?

By Mike

October 15, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

“I believe that ACORN actually can do self-management/regulation, unlike all of the Republican supported businesses that we are now bailing out.”

You do know that Obama leads McCain in Wall Street fundraising by a three to one ratio and that he also has tight connections and signifigant financial contributions from Fannie Mae, right? Obama is the one tied to the bailed out companies, not McCain.

Oh wait. Apprently you don’t know and instead of educating yourself with facts, you just rely on outdated and ignorant stereotypes. Tell me again about how ignorant Palin is.

By Paul

October 15, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Bosch 12:44

ACORN-generated registration cards turned in by Republicans?

I know the knee hurts and you’re on painkillers (prescription or otherwise) and all, but…

ByteMe your 10:37 in a previous thread:

My point was not ‘association’ but involvement of Obama with ACORN. McCain addressed ACORN - that’s a 60-minute shoulder-rubbing exercise. Obama trained ACORN staff on how to register voters - which is generating the raids by the states’ Attorneys General. McCain has a lobbyist on his staff: no parallel to Obama and ACORN. McCain deregulating banking industry: different situation, as Sen Obama funneled millions to ACORN and did demand accountability.

Obama gave ACORN nearly a million dollars from his campaign - and the difficulties keep coming to light. Obama needs to address this, and if he takes the position of “Hey, they are just a group I knew from the neighborhood” it will cost him. Time for a test of candor and character.

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

HI Dusty. How are you doing today. Fine, I hope. Did you hear the latest word going around. Our troops might just be out of Iraq by 2012. Now doesn’t that give even you a little hope. Just think about it. We can finally focus our efforts on paying off the massive debt that we have incurred in fighting that war while simultaneously focusing on creating more debt to pay for the excesses of our heroic corporate executives and their valiant efforts in trying but failing to save us from a recession and possibly worse and our new war in Afghanistan or wherever those mean old terrorists happen to be trying to hide. Those gosh darned low-life poor people and their inabilities to pay off a little old monthly house payment. Why we should just pack them all up on boats and ship them off somewhere, don’t you think, Dusty. Better yet, we should make them pay off their debt to society by enlisting in the Army — for free, gosh darn it. Then, the rest of us hard working loyalists can get back to not paying any taxes and just saying charge it like we have been doing for the 8 dang greatest years of our gosh darn lives. Well, what do you think about that, Dusty. I guess we could also go ahead and throw in a few little things to help us recover like eliminating all corporate taxes and all estate taxes and all taxes on capital gains and dividends. There. That should make just about any Republican with a brain just as happy as a pig in a poke. What do you think about that, Dusty.

By Paul

October 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

ByteMe

Make that “Obama funneled millions to ACORN and did not demand accountability.”

Your comment about deregulation and the banking industry: after reading Mike’s comment above, the thought occurs:

“McCain was for deregulation” while “When it comes to Democratic activist groups receiving taxpayer funding, Obama’s for no regulation.”

By Dawggy Style

October 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

By Mrs. Godzilla October 15, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this Well hell, it only makes sense. “W” has not been a winner anywhere.

Ms. Lizard Lips,

There you go playing loose with your “facts” again! For all of your hang-ups with W, he was a winner in both the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections. Also, don’t forget that a big part of his legacy will be that he appointed both Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito to the Supreme Court (22.2% of the Ultimiate Bench for you number crunchers), both of whom should be there for the next 15 to 25 years. I just know that puts cayenne pepper in your crotchless bloomers, ha!

By Paul

October 15, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Dawggy Style

[[“W” has not been a winner anywhere]]

Africans don’t count?

By Bosch

October 15, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Sounds like a play out of the “Karl Rove book of All Things Evil” to me.

My knee’s fine today. Thanks for your concern. :-)

By blackbird

October 15, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Bosch, My sentiments exactly. I hate that my favorite song of all time is being used to promote a movie about a criminal. Jay, Agreed. Nobody wants to see this movie. I do love that they cast Toby Jones as Karl Rove.

By blackbird

October 15, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Bosch, My sentiments exactly. I hate that my favorite song of all time is being used to promote a movie about a talking horse. Jay, Agreed. Nobody wants to see this movie. I do love that they cast Toby Jones as Karl Rove.

By blackbird

October 15, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Bosch, My sentiments exactly. I hate that my favorite song of all time is being used to promote a movie about a talking horse. Jay, Agreed. Nobody wants to see this movie. I do love that they cast Toby Jones as Karl Rove.

By blackbird

October 15, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Bosch, My sentiments exactly. I hate that my favorite song of all time is being used to promote a movie about a talking horse. Jay, Agreed. Nobody wants to see this movie. I do love that they cast Toby Jones as Karl Rove.

By Paul

October 15, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Glad your knee’s better. I woke with a stiff neck that’s just begging for happy hour to come early.

This ACORN thing could get ugly for Sen Obama. Seriously. He had more than an association - he worked for them. Before becoming a candidate he got them millions. Once a candidate he gave them nearly a million. Now state authorities throughout the country are raiding their offices and arresting their people. For things, some would say, Obama was involved with.

Again, this isn’t ‘association’ - it’s ‘worked for’ and ‘funneled them money.’

How Sen Obama handles this can, I think, be a key factor in swaying or alienating the undecideds.

By Fly_on_the_Wall

October 15, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Dummy Duh - take a look at your 10:09 post. How the heck is what you said even related to what Jay asked? If UFOs and alien abductions are true then you are living proof.

By ByteMe

October 15, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

As I said: it’s a wash. I don’t think he’ll bring it up at all. You can paint what I said in a way that’s nicer to McCain, but that’s not the way Obama will paint it, just the same way as Obama will say that the training happened years ago and doesn’t have any bearing on 2006, that the “millions” ($800K actually) were spent on another organization and only $80K made it to ACORN and most of that was in the primaries which were months ago (the rest was for other services), etc.

And McCain doesn’t just have numerous lobbyists on staff. From a “gotcha” perspective, there’s real importance to having McCain’s head of Presidential transition with a past history of lobbying for Saddam.

In a debate with the format as defined, there won’t be enough follow-up to make any of the charges stick, so…

So it’s a wash. It’s not going to change anything to bring it up and will likely only annoy the muddy middle, which McCain needs to win back to win, so why do it if it won’t get you where you want to go.

(Side bet for tonight: unless McCain tries to tie ACORN or Ayers to Obama, Obama will not bring up the Saddam lobbyist at all. He won’t need to.)

And, Mike: McCain is doing a fantastic job all on his own of screwing up his campaign. His inability to stick with a message, political stunts, attempts to distract, etc., are all keeping him from winning over the muddy middle. It ain’t the media’s fault. The media used to love him. Now it thinks he’s a hack and he has no one to blame but himself for his mess.

By Chief LaughingAtU

October 15, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Earth has been safe from invasion by aliens for decades now thanks to that one brief encounter our would-be invaders had with Andy when he was but a young Republican. Please, a moment of white space for Andy.

Thank You.

By ByteMe

October 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Paul: you’re claiming ACORN “arrests”, but the only thing I’m finding from a search of news sites is one arrest of a former working in Michigan. A link would be great. I’d like to see more.

By Tony

October 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

If it were about Pelosi, Reid and Dodd, I’d pay to see it and buy the DVD as well. Halloween would be a great time to see such a movie!

By ByteMe

October 15, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Ah, turns out the training claim is bogus anyway….

The Truth According to Obama

We Report. You Decide. :-)

By @@

October 15, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Are ‘ya sure about that jay? Do your predictions include “failure to see” leftists who look to comedians for political insight and to government for promotions?

I dare say their low intellect has probably provoked them to buy tickets in advance.

By Williebkind

October 15, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

I hope Obama wins the election! I am a warmonger and I love to see the world at war. Possibly nuclear confrontations! Wow, my biggest dream. But I really want to see the NEUTRON BOMB at work. I mean we can go into the cities with the Obama flags after thirty days. Of course those animals that starve from it would be sad. You know the animals are more important than humans anyway. You know I have been thinking about it. The Obama cults must make a god of halfman or halfwoman or part man part woman part tranvestite and half animal…like the Greeks or such. Oh yes and holding a book of laws! like lawyers! You know because liberals are so smart. Maybe Obama can select two or three liberal supreme court justices too! Then everyone can make law as long as it fits the agenda. Well, I just can not wait to watch the world at war with Obama’s marines.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 15, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

Pinko - Yes, I really, really believe that - sheesh, I just vent here for god’s sake I have too much going on to string anyone up, and probably wouldn’t know how to go about it anyway. - if you think this is anything but a bunch of posing posers- from both sides - you are crazy - I just like to stir the friggin pot - however, I do believe that those who create jobs for others will not take the risks required to grow their business (and create new jobs) without having the chance of a reward on the other side - You can use sarcasm and/or hyperbole to make your point, but you can’t force others to get it. Must be that wonderful guvamint edgamakashun you Obama supporters all get.

By Chief LaughingAtU

October 15, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

@@ tried to make a funny.

By SayNo2McCain

October 15, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

This is going to be a comedy, correct? I saw snippets of the preview, but never paid close attention.

I prefer movies about dead presidents, at least you know how their lives really ended.

I won’t pay a dime for this movie, not even when it comes on TV.

By Sarah

October 15, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Considering most of the support Obama receives comes from people who make two dollars within minimum wage, no benefits and ride the bus to their dead end jobs, it’s not exactly a MENSA meeting gathering around the fire electing the man. I’ll still be thin, wealthy and beautiful no matter who wins. Along with others who have padded bank accounts even in hard times, I can ride out four years. Most Obama supporters can’t say the same.

By SaveOurRepublic

October 15, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

I’m sure the movie won’t dare touch the Bush Dynasty’s connections to the Globalist Elite…it’ll mostly be fluff (like 99% of the garbage out of “Hollyweird”). Instead of only painting “Skull&Bonesman Jorge Boosh” as a booze swilling, bumbler (which is bogus as he implemented his marching orders to a T), they should be highlighting treasonous actions like the following…

• The Bush administration seized the assets of two of the largest banks in the U.S. even though at least one or both were still financially solvent.

• The Bush administration turned those assets over to banks in which long time primary interests were held by the Rockefellers a family to which the Bushes were heavily indebted.

• The Bush administration further protected the interests of those banks and others with a bill that would make the American taxpayers directly responsible for the bad debts of the banks.

By Dusty

October 15, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Dear Taxpayer,

Now, you go ahead and give your home to those poor folks who don’t know you can’t buy a big house with little money. Then turn over all your income to these folks so everyone can live in the lifestyle they deserve. Then turn every hospital into Grady and treat everything from dandruff to diabetes for FREE.

Since you have also implied, take all that money from the undeserving rich who earned it. I leave YOU with the problem as to how to pay for all your gifts.

But what amazes me, you have all these concerns for us who are free, but not one for those under distatorships and despots elsewhere. At least, George W. Bush has compassion and two countries are set free and we are protected.

Oh well, you are a home bound liberal. The rest of the world can go to hell in a handbasket. That does not bother you. And….

As you indicate, the government will take care of you. It is called socialism.

By Tom

October 15, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

I saw “W” 2 nights ago at a screening. It will “tank.” But NOT because it isn’t quite historically accurate - it is. The real reason is due to the timing. Mainly the repugnant state of the nation, courtesy of Bush & fellow-criminals. Also the preoccupation with the election. The movie itself is entirely too, too kind to Bush. But it does record his insipid stupidity and drunken recklessness, plus a host of psychological dysfunctions which have long been revealed in a host of books and other documents. No reasoned person can argue with those FACTS of life. But the goose-steppers will indeed argue.

By @@

October 15, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

ByteMe @ 2:05:

A picture’s worth a thousand words that DON’T matter.

Your guy lies through his teeth (beautiful teeth I might add) over and over again.

His sight has scrubbed a lot of info where he’s championed ACORN.

By Dusty

October 15, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Dear Sweet lovable Tony @2:58

I am glad to know that you work for free. Yes, ‘tis true. I get paid. Not for scrubbing latrines, but for analyzing the medical aspects of those who become sick.

I do not study insects so have no fear. You will not fall within my range of study.

By BDAtlanta

October 15, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

I disagree, Jay. I think all those people who voted for him twice who still can’t comprehend the depth of their mistake will go see the movie hoping it will show W as a real American hero and make them feel OK about their sad, stupid past choices at the polls.

By @@

October 15, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Get out the facts……ByteMe!

ACORN spokesman Lewis Goldberg is referenced in the Oct. 11 New York Times as acknowledging that, in Times’ reporter Stephanie Strom’s words, “Mr. Obama conducted two leadership training sessions of roughly an hour each for ACORN’s Chicago affiliate over a three-year period in the late 1990s. He was not paid for that work, Mr. Goldberg said.”

So ACORN now says that Obama did training for the organization. But because Obama did these training sessions without pay, and because to hire means “to employ someone for a wage or fee,” it is technically correct to say he was never “hired” to do so.

ACORN both selected and paid Barack Obama as a lawyer in 1995 to sue the state of Illinois to compel implementation of a law known as Motor-Voter. ACORN, however, now says it was only one of several plaintiffs in the case and hence that it would be wrong to say Obama was the organization’s lawyer. But ACORN was the lead plaintiff, and therefore the case is recorded as ACORN, et al. v. Edgar (then-Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar).

In 1992 Obama became Illinois’ statewide head of Project Vote, a 501(c)(3) organization that is required to be nonpartisan to retain its tax-exempt status. The Obama campaign Web site says, “ACORN was not part of Project Vote.” Critics argue that the reverse is true.

In fact, Obama said during a speech to ACORN leaders in November: When “I ran the Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it.”

Veteran journalist Karen Tumulty and two of her colleagues described Project Vote in the Oct. 18, 2004, issue of Time magazine as “a nonpartisan arm of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now” after interviewing its national director.

And the co-founder and then head of ACORN itself, former Students for a Democratic Society new leftist Wade Rathke described Project Vote, in 2004 as one of ACORN’s “family of organizations.”

Rathke spun off nearly 100 legal entities from ACORN and moved large amounts of money among them. Rathke left the organization this year after it came to light that his brother had diverted almost a million dollars from ACORN coffers.

Come on now…..is your Messiah a false prophet — a typical lying politician?

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Dusty, dear disillusioned Dusty. What on earth has come over you, girl. Do you always just take off on tangents and talk about all sorts of silliness with people. Is that what Wooten finds so appealing about you? By the way, have you and Jim set a date yet. You will be sending out invitations to all of us, won’t you, you sweet thing. Now be a dear and try to tell me the Republican plan for paying for the war in Iraq. I’ll bet you cannot do that, can you. Come on, sweet thing. That’s a girl.

By blackbird

October 15, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

If that is true Sara, why has Obama received far more campaign donations than McCain? The smartest people in this country support Obama by a wide margin. Even conservatives, i.e Christopher Buckley, know that the Republican Party has abandonded its principles in pursuit of the dumbest part of the electorate. Essentially, the Republican Party has switched places with the segregation era Democrats, at least in terms of its base. And by the way, any one who feels the need to point out that she is wealthy, thin and beautiful has little chance of surviving in the real world, so I hope you find comfort in your delusions.

By @@

October 15, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Conservatives move forward without regrets. democrats use them as a means of support.

If the Democratic Party can instill that living principle in their voters, the politicians have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Their supporters lose and don’t even know it.

By Say What?

October 15, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Who in the hell will watch this movie? Right off the bat, you’ve got 50% of America that votes Democrat and despises Bush. Next you have 20% of Americans who call themselves Republicans but haven’t supported Bush since 2005. Next you have the shrill 30% remainder who claim to have supported Bush from Day One, but many, if not most, were simply lying to pollsters. They know he destroyed the Republican Party. They know he killed the Republican Revolution. They know he’s more liberal than most of the Democrats they claim to hate.

The only people watching W will be George Sr. and Barbara. And they’ll probably watch it on TV, after the Tonight Show.

By Chief LaughingAtU

October 15, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

@@ is still trying to make a funny.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 15, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Blackbird, the vast majority of his donations are coming from over seas - specifically through banks in Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern states - Look at the DOW dropping again - this is because those with money are scared as hell that Obama is going to win and they are taking their money out - if Obama wins the debate tonight, even more are going to yank their money out and put it somewhere safe ——

By @@

October 15, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

@@ is still trying to make a funny.

And you’re readin’ every one of ‘em aren’tcha Chief?

By AmVet

October 15, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

lrd at 11:58,

Talking Movies and Race, from Blazing Saddles…

Doncha know come next month Lynn Westmoreland will be crying in his best Slim Pickens voice, “That uppity Obama went and hit me on the head with a shovel!”.

As far as the movie W is concerned, I tend to agree, Mr. Bookman.

Most sentient people around the world already know what a clusterf&ck the guy is. And has been. Who needs yet more evidence?

By AmVet

October 15, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

lrd at 11:58,

Talking Movies and Race, from Blazing Saddles…

Doncha know come next month Lynn Westmoreland will be crying in his best Slim Pickens voice, “That uppity Obama went and hit me on the head with a shovel!”.

As far as the movie W is concerned, I tend to agree, Mr. Bookman.

Most sentient people around the world already know what a clusterf&ck the guy is. And has been. Who needs yet more evidence?

By Taxpayer

October 15, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

@@,

You reading my reviews. Now THAT was your first successful attempt at making a funny. Good show. I would toss a quarter in your hat if I knew where to catch your performance, live. Which street corner do you work.

By Hillbillly Deluxe

October 15, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

I usually don’t go for topical movies. I’m a history buff and most often historical and topical movies are chock full of factual inaccuracies. This is usually done in the interest of “a story” but to me the truth is always much more interesting.