Jay Bookman

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 14, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the post Jay.

Every vote we peel away from Chambliss is a vote for a better Georgia!

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Jay,

There were others far worse. One alternated pictures of Cleland and Obama with a voice saying that max Cleland was soft on terrorism.

Chambliss should be horse-whipped. I will never forgive him for his slanderous campaign. And I’m still angry at every single veteran who voted for this draft-dodging cretin.

By Danny the red

October 14, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Hey BS_Aplenty, there was enough of it before your posting. Why’d you bother?

Name me one thing wrong with what Cone says?

So do you attend a Church of the Antichrist, yourself?

By Goldie

October 14, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

JAY— this also reminds me of Cindy McSame’s claim that Obama “sent chills” down her body for voting against a bill to fund our troops in Iraq… what she failed to mention was that McSame himself voted against another bill that would fund our troops simply because it had timeline provisions for withdrawal. Maybe Cindy’s so cold now that she no longer feels chills, or did she decide that it was more important to excuse her husband’s lack of patriotism in her quest to gain the White House, no matter the lying to get there?

Who can ever believe anything coming out of Cindy or John McBush’s mouths anymore???

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Jay,

Perhaps you should consider putting word limits on the bloggers here. Either that, or convert your blog to a bulletin board!

By Goldie

October 14, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Why John McSame Should Never Be President:

McCain: Iraq War Was ‘Easy’

John McSame— Bad Judgment, No Integrity, Not Fit To Lead.

By Dusty

October 14, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

All honor to Max Cleland and the sacrifice he made in serving the United States.

Saxby Chambliss did not speak against Cleland’s war record. He spoke against his political record. I don’t believe he made up any lies about Cleland. He reminded voters of Cleland’s voting record. If there is something crooked in reporting what is on record, I haven’t heard about it.

Max Cleland took his chances in politics like the warrior he was. But he lost that election on his politics, not anythng else. That in no way changed his status as honored veteran.

Bookman now takes the less than noble roll of ridiculing Chamliss because he could not serve in the armed forces because of a bad knee. Perhaps Bookman knows more than the doctor or the armed forces themselves.

But Bookman does know how to inject hate into a campaign and he does not want Chambliss (R) to win. Wonder how long Bookman served in the military? Why not? Is that why Bookman is an anti-war Democrat? If you want to be deceptive it may come back and hit YOU.

By E

October 14, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

I’d like to get hold of Saxby’s d@mn trick knee. I could really put the hurt on it.

Max Cleland is a true American hero.

There’s bound to be a special place in hell for Saxby.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Midori

October 14, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

A trick knee, yet he’s an “avid” jogger.

Scumbag Chickenhawks are all the same.

Hi, Dusty.

By Davo

October 14, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Chambliss claims to be a conservative but voted for the Wall Street Holdup. What other reason would you need to vote this guy out?

By Goldie

October 14, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Dusty-Brains, do you believe that Cindy McSame got “chills” down her body because of a NO vote that Obama gave for funding our troops in Iraq, and at the same time she is up on that podium claiming that somehow John McSame’s NO vote does not even count on her chill-o-meter???

Maybe Cleland was being punished for his political record back in 2002 — but by your non-logic, don’t you agree that John McSame needs to be punished for his NO vote on funding our troops? McSame can’t be elected president now, can he, Dusty-Brains, because he voted NO and is unpatriotic!!! Doesn’t matter how he may have voted about anything else — that NO vote of his is a real deal-breaker and makes him unpatriotic now, correct???

By Taxpayer

October 14, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

The ads that Saxby used against Max were bad enough but Saxby is one of those typical Republicans that can never do enough harm. His attacks against Graham at Imperial Sugar were really the icing on the cake for me. Saxby Chambliss is a Republican through and through and a true disgrace to the human race. I will NEVER vote for that man for any public office although I do think he would make a good roto-rooter — just stick his head in the pipe and let him start munching.

By Dusty

October 14, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Well, I am glad to see all you veterans here sticking together no matter what.

I guess that means that ALL OF YOU VETS HERE are going to vote for John McCain because he is a VETERAN. There! Thank you.

McCain has a vicious campaign going against him. Not only McCain, but his wife, his VP choice Sarah Palin and every member of her family including her school age children.

So I am sure you VETS really are upset over the nefarious claims against a VETERAM POW who has served America even as a civilian in government after his military service.

I’ve been around veterans all my life. but I am around veterans who can think for themselves. Nobody tells them how to vote. They decide themselves.

But thanks again. VETERANS FOR JOHN MCCAIN, A VETERAN & POW

By T

October 14, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

You could dodge, I mean avoid the draft because of a “trick knee?” Someone out there has an answer.

Goldie

Don’t forget about how McCain votes on the veterans.

By TN Gelding

October 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

What irked me was Saxknee should have been satisfied with his House seat. For sure Max ran a bad campaign and might have voted with Bush too much.

By BS Aplenty

October 14, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Ah, Jay, don’t take it personally. When you delete my commentary about how racist your candidate is, you only double the damnation. Like trying to hide the Holocaust for the Nazis.

Candidate Obama’s just got a deceptive, racist streak about him like Goebbels, Goering and Eichmann. And, like a good Nazi, er, Dem lapdog you’re gotta try to hide it.

I’m keepin’ my eye on you, Jay.

By BS Aplenty

October 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

This post has been pulled because it has already been published on this site many times in the past. Its author is advised to cease and desist.

By Dusty

October 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

goldie,2:41

If McCain voted against funding the troops it was only because it was loaded with millions of dollars of “PORK”. Did you check that out? NO!

McCain has never voted for a bill that was loaded with “pork” even for his state of Arizona.

McCain has given a good part of his life to the military. He supports them and they know it. Why don’t you try a little support for the military?

Hi, Midori! 2:37

How’s your knee?

Had a replacement yet?

I hear you can run real good after that.. Even get to jogging again. Try it!!

By T

October 14, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Dusty

Why does McCain vote against veteran benifits?
Why would I stick up for someone that does not have my own interest at heart. Quick to send us to war, but doesn’t want to deal with the aftermath. Sick.

By Bosch

October 14, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

How funny, in the ad it says the “Cleland SAYS he votes with Bush……”

as if that were a GOOD thing back then.

NOW, politicians can’t get away from Bush fast enough.

Oh my.

Yeah. It still boggles the mind that the sheep were herded so blindly back then, but not now!

I found a Jim Martin yard sign today - it looks nice out there. Those are kind of hard to come by. I had to put my name down on a waiting list for an Obama sign. I have one coming in the mail though.

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

How convenient are the memories of the wing-nuts.

The ad campaign that impuned the reputation of war hero Cleland by calling him soft on terrorism concerned his opposition to the TSA bill.

Specifically he went on record (and voted NO) because the bill created a separate group of government employees who were completely excluded from the benefits and pay scales of other government employees. He felt (and rightly so) that the new employees should earn seniority (kinda like miltary time-in-service, time-in-grade qualifications). But the GOP opposed it and wrote the bill excluding them.

So Chambliss twisted his vote and accused him of being “soft” on terrorism when he really being “tough” on the GOP.

Stupid hypocrites!

BTW, Chambliss later went on record as saying that ad campaign was absolutely WRONG!. Of course, he was in office by then.

By paisana

October 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

What process was that ? Is there another Vietnam vet triple amputee in GA?

By BS Aplenty

October 14, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Ah, I love the smell of vindication in the morning.

By Midori

October 14, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

how’s your broom?

got it tuned up yet?

By "The Corporal"

October 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Jay

Due to his liberal ideology, I would have never voted for Max even if he won the Medal of Honor. One doesn’t effect the other. That said, he served his country honorably.

However, that video is not as bad as some of the stuff I’ve seen about McCain from your friends on your blogs and I don’t ever remember you chastising them for that …………… if you say you did and I missed it I apologize. If you didn’t …….. well, you know what that is.

Just one example I remember was one of your bloggers saying they should have tortured him (McCain) some more.

P.S. And while I have my dander up, for all of you out there who chose not to serve when you were needed (past and present):

“FOR THOSE WHO FOUGHT FOR IT, FREEDOM HAS A FLAVOR THE PROTECTED (THAT’S YOU) WILL NEVER KNOW!”

By Midori

October 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

free printable Obama signs here

By JAY BOOKMAN

October 14, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Corporal, I have indeed chastized some who have criticized McCain’s war service. But I don’t think it’s quite accurate to compare the postings of anonymous bloggers to campaign commecials sponsored and approved by a candidate and funded with hundreds of thousands of dollars.

By Midori

October 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

you know Dusty - if you took better care of your broom you wouldn’t have to jog so much.

By BS Aplenty

October 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Jay, again, I’m hurt beyond words - well, OK, maybe not words.

AGAIN, you’re pulling my well-written, sans obscenities commentary about your racist candidate because “it’s been posted here before”? (que gut-splitting laughter track).

You’re quivering, Jay.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 14, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Chambliss voted against the New GI Bill

Chambliss voted against SCHIP

In 2007 Chambliss voted to scrap the minimum wage.

Chambliss voted against equal pay for women.

By E

October 14, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Midori at 3:23,

ROFLMAO

Obama/Biden ‘08

By SayNo2McCain

October 14, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

What’s with all the Excuse-R-Us republicans on this blog?

You guys are truly sad when the shoe is on the other foot. You have become whinners and daily excuse providers.

Your motto has forever changed….. you can never get it back.

Excuse and Whinners R US!!!!!

Say NO 2 McCain/Palin 08

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

But Coporal

Did we not have a discussion a while back where you made it clear that veterans, by the very act of service, had a leg up on national security?

So you would vote anti-national security because of your own personal private partisan qualms?

By RealityKing

October 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

If you want a clear mind…, give up the liberal kool-aid.

By "The Corporal"

October 14, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

To Jay

This blog is part of the Atlanta Journal and Constitution. It’s the same to me !

By the way, I agree with what others said. The add referred to his courage to be a political leader and to make those tough political decisions that were best for the country and not his party.

By Taxpayer

October 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Oh look, Grunt Corporal has HIS DANDER UP. Wow. What do you do for an encore, Grunt. Peel spuds. You sure don’t present anything logical and fact-based for discussion. Why don’t you give me your interpretation of Saxby’s “questioning” of Graham at Imperial Sugar and then tell me who else, at Imperial Sugar, he questioned and what the questions and answers were. Then, tell me what Saxby has done over the years to improve OSHA and EPA. Go ahead, make my day.

By Midori

October 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

would someone PLEASE reboot Corporal?

or control+alt+delete him?

either will do.

By JAY BOOKMAN

October 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

BS, you’ve posted the identical comment more than a dozen times on this blog alone.

Surely someone who calls himself BS Aplenty can come up with fresh BS instead of repeatedly recyling previously digested BS.

Or maybe not, if we judge on performance.

By paisana

October 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Democrats exploited poor Max in a shameful way during the Kerry campaign. When Max was driven to the gates of Bush’s ranch in Texas with orders to deliver the forged CBS documents smearing Bush, even those of us who looked at Max with a jaundiced eye felt a twinge of pity.

By "The Corporal"

October 14, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

Please go to my last entry yesterday on this blog:

Why Ayers, Wright, etc., just won’t work….

By Mike

October 14, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Yeah, it’s much more preferable to be like John Lewis and accuse your opponent of being a racist. But hey, Bookman is here to bash conservatives, not be intellectually honest.

By Bosch

October 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Thanks! Sweet! Printing some now. I think I’ll go around the neighborhood and tape them over the McCain/Palin signs!

Oh, I’m just kidding! I’d get shot if I tried to do that!

By Mike

October 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Corporal:

Don’t bother. Bookman always has an excuse to justify liberal hate speech. His standards shift to allow him to attack conservatives incessantly, yet never find anything for which to criticize the left. That’s what makes him such an intellectually dishonest partisan hack.

Michael Savage, Jay Bookman, what’s the difference?

By Taxpayer

October 14, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

What will all these whining Republicans do when they are told that they will have to pay for a war if they want to send others off to fight for them and they’ll have to pay to bail out their banking buddies when they pass stupid laws that give them free rein. Clearly, these Republicans will never learn so the least they should do is pay for their errors instead of charging it to their grandchildren.

By Bud Wiser

October 14, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

I voted this afternoon. While filing my form to get my electronic ticket, a black couple next to me were having a rather severe argument with the officials about the address they submitted when registering, and their now supposed current address.

It was not a pretty sight.

Perhaps ACORNS are spreading in Georgia as well.

It wouldn’t surprise me …. if you think you can get away with it in 13 other states with no supervision, then why not try it on a few more?

BTW, heard on the radio that that garbage of humanity Troy Davis will now meet his final justice, as the SCOTUS has turned him down. Too bad, too late, but better late than never.

By hillbilly ragger

October 14, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Mike @ 3.42, you sure do have a short memory about John Lewis.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

It just gets worse and worse for McCain!

Report: McCain Transition Head Helped Saddam’s Lobbying Effort

By Midori

October 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Anytime, Bosch :)

Printing some out myself :)

By BS Aplenty

October 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

A TEN-SECOND PLAY

Sunday morning worship service at the Trinity United Church of Christ. A young Obama sits in rapt attention. The song service (and the lessons) have just begun.

REV. JEREMIAH: (standing up) Yes, brothers and sisters, sing with me the songs of redemption, the songs sung by our ancestors as they broke their chains of bondage and headed for freedom, yes sing with me now…

(SUNG to Jesus Loves Me)

Foolin’ Whitey’s good to know, Come on in and join our show,
Shoutin’ loud and dancin’ real, *Maybe Soul Train makes a deal.

Yes, foolin’ Whitey, Green’s God-Almighty, Stacks high & tidy, My conscience full o’ blow.

Welfare’s payment for your sins, Givin’ Green’s a recompense, Brother’s got to blame someone, You got Greem, so you’s the one.

OBAMA: (singing) …Yes, foolin’ Whitey, Green’s God-Almighty, Stacks high & tidy…

Twenty years later on the presidential campaign trail and the song remains the same.

OBAMA: (answering reporters’ questions) …and I sang so off-key in church that anyone familiar with a capella singing would not believe that I believed a word I was singing unless they were singing more off-key than I was. This issue is a diversion from the true problem in America which is color…(…yes, foolin’ Whitey, Green’s God-Almighty, Stacks high & tidy…).

THE END

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Saxby’s son, Bo, is a registered lobbyist.

The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

By hillbilly ragger

October 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Bud @ 3.49, I know you long for the days when that uppity black couple would have to call you “Massuh.”

You nothin’ but a massuh-baiter now.

By "The Corporal"

October 14, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

To Mike

Hey, that’s not a bad idea! Savage & Bookman like Hannity & Colmes !

What say ye Jay?

By Paul

October 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Goldie 2:26

Every time you repeat that Sen McCain statement of ‘the war would be easy’ (judgment going into a situation) it opens the door for comparison with the candidates’ judgment once presented with a difficult situation (conduct of operations once the situation’s mired down). In this, McCain comes out ahead, as Obama’s position would likely have led to a dire situation.

At least, going in, McCain had the support of years of his opponent’s statements, as well as the ‘going to be easy’ part the concurrence of the senior military leadership and thinkers in the Dept of Defense. Just where do you think he got the basis for his opinion? Best military ever? Not then, they weren’t.

So both had good judgment in one area, off base in another. Time for some new contrasts.

Your 2:41

To use the same situation but carried to an extreme to illustrate a point: if a bill to provide the “wonder weapon 6’’ for the troops in Iraq came up, but a provision for the bill said the weapon could be used only from 5 am – 6 am and Sen Obama and Sen McCain both voted against it, would you still say both Senators voted NO to provide better weapons for our troops engaged in combat operations? Bills often have a provision that’s a deal breaker. Voting for against a bill because of the breaker does not imply opposition to the larger issue.

Hi N-GA

37 yard line, row 36. 92,000 people. Slightly overcast, light breeze, both sides playing as if each play would determine the outcome. And Texas won.

A most enjoyable day.

By Mr Snarky

October 14, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Chambliss had the courage to run that ad, which is not much I guess. Has he done anything else beside be a Bush toadie?

By Dennis

October 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

My mind is not boggled.

As a Senator, Cleland was a Socialist-Democrat first, a lover 2nd, and a Georgian 3rd or 4th. So I voted for the unknown, Chambliss.

Now six years later I know enough about Chambliss and Martin to know that Chambliss is not perfect, but is clearly the best option.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

As long as we are in the printing mode….

Here’s a creative resource for tomorrow night

By Midori

October 14, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Bo???? Saxby????

WTF??? Are we talking about the cast of Hee Haw here??

By getalife

October 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Obama should hire Max to take care of the vets.

Suxby should fired like the rest of the gop.

Didn’t Al Gore predict w would steal the treasury?

By Analchord

October 14, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

W served honorably and did his duty. Although there’s no record of his being on the planet during his years on the guard.

Chambliss is the poster child for Nixon political campaigns. You dont address issues. You’ll lose. (How can you talk about budgets and education without saying the word, “tax”? You cant. So dont mention them.) Instead, play to people’s fears. Lie. Distort. The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it. The more votes.

Nixon Politics 101. Both sides do it. What’s shocking is how it works every time. Americans have a fourteen second attention span is why it works.

But so what. There’s no alternative. We vote what they put in front of us and we like it. Find a better system. Know what? You cant.

Palin 08: She’s wonderful. Vote for her or Obama may join al queda as president and kill us all.

By Taxpayer

October 14, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

What’s the problem with Republicans and their urge to dis-enfranchise voters. Surely, two people that show up alive and with IDs and want to vote, can vote. Right! Are Republicans so cowardly that they do not want real live people to have a right to vote. Republicans are so pathetic. Are they scared that those same two people are going to go from one county to the next and vote over and over and over. If so, then I think there are some really paranoid Republicans out there. Really pathetic paranoid cowardly Republicans. BOO.

By AmVet

October 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

I would not shake the hand of Saxby Chambliss if he offered it to me.

I honestly can’t say that about another politician, not even George W. Bush.

Isn’t it sadly ironic that virtually the only two men of valor in the ENTIRE Republican Party at the antional level were both repulsed by that very ad - Chuck Hagel and John McCain.

THEY WERE THE ONLY TWO REPUBLICANS WHO DENOUNCED IT.

And you neo-cons loathe them both.

What the simpleton Dusty refuses to see (Well, I am glad to see all you veterans here sticking together no matter what.), is that yes, we veterans do considered each other brothers in arms. And when I go to the VA Hospital down on Clairmont, like I did this morning, you can see and feel it. No matter the race, age, rank, time and place of service, occupation, combat or not, for the most part, vets respect the h&ll out of each other.

But there are people so consumed with their own personal gain and political power they will stop at no slur about the most courageous among us to get what they want.

And that is exactly why so many of us (including those two exceptionally brave men I just mentioned, I suppose) think Saxby Chambliss is the very poster boy of the GOP’s vast yellow “army” of never-served, never-will, chest pounding chicken hawks, who pay empty lip service to combat veterans and “supporting the troops” while enabling the deadly and deceitful bunglers at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to cook the books and fear-monger their way into their chosen invasion/occupation.

Chambliss should do the entire country and the state of Georgia a great service and resign. And I have written him making that very recommendation.

This nation is utterly fed up with these scumbag, swift-boating slanderers and likely to send them to a second consecutive epic slaughter in November.

Where they can find employment on the reeling private sector…

By getalife

October 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

BREAKING: McCain Transition Chief Lobbied For Saddam Hussein.

Sure John, bring up Ayers in the debate tomorrow.

By Bud Wiser

October 14, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Hillbilly, just reporting what I saw. Perhaps you are projecting what you would be thinking under identical circumstance? Or were you thinking about the relationship between the Democrat Party and their subservient minorities?

Why o why is it also that almost on a daily basis when I post something, that one of you left wingnuts inevitably refers to either a bodily function, or try (weakly) to suggest some suppressed sexual innuendo? And it’s almost like something you want to do to yourself, or a same sex partner? You are one sicko, mister.

Is that they only thing you people think about?

Apparently so.

Sad. Truly sad.

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid, and to have those ‘special’ feelings

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon, Paul. As I watched the game I couldn’t help but think how “in the moment” you had to be. It made me smile.

I can’t help but wonder what the last debate holds for us. Unfortunately, I suspect it won’t be as civil as the previous debates. But I also believe Obama will be prepared to respond evenly and with dignity to whatever McCain throws at him.

By DebbieDoRight

October 14, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Bud: Your address on your ID has nothing to do with your address when you registered. The only way it would affect your voting, is if you went to the wrong precinct to vote, (which, since this is early voting season, shouldn’t be a problem because people are going to a county approved polling place to place their ballots).

By David

October 14, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

War vet here for Barack Obama. I cannot support John McCain, as he lost much of my respect in the past year, double-so since he chose Palin as VP.

It’s not about being a veteran, it’s about not questioning a veteran’s patriotism/nationalism/love of country. That’s where Chambliss crossed the line.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

There were others far worse. One alternated pictures of Cleland and Obama with a voice saying that max Cleland was soft on terrorism

N-GA,

I’m calling BS. I believe that ad lives only in your mind and I’ll happily apologize if you can prove me wrong. I’ll even allow that you meant Osama instead of Obama.

By the way, Biden has a son that’s a registered lobbyist too.

By Analchord

October 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Liar Loan McCain’s been awful quiet lately. Must be filling out some more Ninja Loans, the Liar.

LiarLoan McCain 08: So what if he lied. He’s LiarLoan McCain. What did you expect?

By BS Aplenty

October 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

JAY BOOKMAN @ above

That’s why they call ‘em “classics”, Jay. You can just read them over and over again. Timeless, really.

Nevertheless, had you bothered to read the final paragraphs you’d note that since TUCC has conveniently mended their ways (or deceptively, take your pick), I’ve updated my commentary. Call it an addendum to a classic.

Your candidate really is a deceptive racist.

By RealityKing

October 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Highest budget deficit ever

Red ink hits $454.8 billion in 2008, more than double that of 2007;

Congradulations on that last election win dems, the Harry and Nancy show is doing great! And of course.., 95% of us are now expecting an Obama tax cut to boot.

By Goldie

October 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

What will all these whining Republicans do when they are told that they will have to pay for a war if they want to send others off to fight for them

Taxpayer — now, wouldn’t that be big news?!! The whiners always want their “regime change” and “spreading democracy” in other countries, but don’t dare ask that they actually pay taxes to get it done — no, they much prefer that we keep borrowing war $$$ from China and Russia instead!

The Repug Party is the main reason that America is bankrupt today — too much regime change and, at the very same time, too many tax-cuts for the wealthiest Americans!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

WTF does this have to do with anything?

Nothing current to blog over?

Can’t talk about Oblahma’s “accomplishments?”

This very day, liberals are calling good and decent Americans racists over policy disagreements and discussions of character.

I guess it just goes to show that you can call a Conservative anything you want, it’s no big deal.

I might be that we are man enough to take it, while the libs still whine about it 6 years later.

By Goldie

October 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Your candidate really is a deceptive racist.

And your candidate is a pitiful BS-Bigot with 2 Big-Bs, BSaplenty!

By Bud Wiser

October 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Debbie, I can only assume how it works as I have lived in the same house for 20+ years and voted in the same county for 20+ years, and this is only the third time that I have not voted on election day (twice other by absentee).

Like I said, all I saw was all I saw. You know how govt workers are, maybe one was new or having a bad day.

Don’t know, don’t care. I have fulfilled my citizen’s duty and exercised my right to my one vote.

Tomorrow, however, its off to Ohio to see if I can exercise an ACORN given right to vote 70 or 80 times….

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

RW,

I found several references to it, but no video. Try this link.

I’ll look for your apology. Frankly, I am surprised that you called B.S. before doing basic research. That is completely unlike you.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Hey Reality King….

Now add the $$$$ for the occupation that is off budget…..

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

That’s a reference to the same ad Jay B has posted above. I can find dozens of stories written the way that USA story is written and every one of them that links to the video shows this one. I want the video of the ad you described.

I’ve done the research and I’m 99.9 percent sure it doesn’t exist and never did.

By DebbieDoRight

October 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

RealityKing: Here’s a quick forage in the land of reality — Pelosi and Reid just took control of Congress in 2007. Before then, it was Repuglican led for 12+ years, (6+ years under Clinton, 6 under Bush). As a matter of fact for the past 7 years Repuglicans held the majority in all the offices of government: President, Senate and House.

How can you blame one year under Pelosi/Reid on all the erroneous mistakes made and not look to the 12+ years of Repuglican rule as a contributing factor?

Bud Wiser: Too funny!! Bitter. But Funny!!!

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

RW,

I suspect that as far as you are concerned, gravity doesn’t exist because you’ve never seen it.

Here’s another link.

By Paul

October 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

N-GA

I was smiling, too, thank you! Even waved towards the mountains.

I hope the debates will be civil, yet forceful on issues. I saw a clip of McCain at a rally a few days back, fellow stood and said how scared he was at the thought Obama would be elected. McCain told him there was nothing to be scared of, Sen Obama is a decent man (audience booed, McCain shushed them) and reiterated there was nothing to be frightened about. They have different views, but he’s still honorable.

If that kind of clip got referred to more than the cries and chants of the haters in the crowd (and if people stopped trying to make McCain responsible for them, same with Obama) both candidates might have their wish of a civil campaign.

But that does not mean they won’t go after each other on their records. As easy on the facts as that might be.

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Come on, RW. Where’s your apology?

Here’s still another link to an analysis of the ad on the UGA .edu website

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Instead of continuing to make yourself look even more foolish just link to the video.

By AmVet

October 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Nice dodge duhng.

But your BushCo boot licker is running for office again.

And though I’m sure you’ve “missed” it, the nation has changed enormously since 2002. And chicken hawk scumbags are no longer given a free pass this time.

Rational and reasonable Republicans, across the entire country, are turning away from your despicable and fraud “leaders” in droves.

So if exposing Suxbad as the spineless cretin he is and using this nauseating event helps get the creep back to Moultrie, it’s a win for Georgia and the USA.

Before he went totally bonkers:

“It’s disgraceful for anybody to question Max Cleland’s commitment to our national security,” Zell Miller said. Pointing to Cleland’s record in the Vietnam War, during which he lost both legs and an arm, Miller said “Max Cleland is my hero,” and his “opponent should be ashamed.”

Yes, MadasZell, most Americans agree that doubting Cleland’s patriotism in this manner is so disgusting that only the occasional frigid, Reich-wing nut job like Dusted would resort to it.

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

RW,

If you actually read the link at the UGA website, you will note that the Chambliss campaign eventually deleted the images of Osama and Saddam from the ad because of the uproar they caused.

I wonder where you were when all this went down?

By AJC/DNC Management

October 14, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Mahoney’s scandal is different from Foley’s in several respects. Whereas Allen is a mature woman (ABC puts her age at 50), Foley directed his attentions toward teenage boys. Mahoney’s scandal involved money; Foley’s did not. And whereas Republicans were eager to get rid of Foley once his creepy behavior became public, ABC reports that “senior Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives, including Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL), the chair of the Democratic Caucus, have been working with Mahoney to keep the matter from hurting his re-election campaign, the Mahoney staffers said.”-Wall Street Journal

Hastert is gone too.

Where’s Pelosi and Emanuel?

Business as usual?

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

I just read your UGA link and describes the very ad you see right here. It even has a partial transcript.

Video please. You’re starting to look as if you’ve gone beyond simply misinformed and have begun to look deliberately deceptive.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 14, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Just curious Jay, what did you post in response to Shirly and co.’s “water hoses and dogs” ad 2 years ago? Did you post any objection to that race baiting embarassment to the state of Georgia or did you take your normal “dems can do no wrong” approach?

Jay, nobody minds you having an opinion and sharing it, but the people of ATL (and Georgia, for that matter) deserve a little more intellectual honesty from a person in the position you hold. You’re not a blogger on a free web site, Jay. You’re supposed to be a journalist who shares HONEST opinions of issues that affect all of us. If you can’t find anything good to say about R’s and can’t find anything critical of D’s, you’re not qualified for your job, Jay. Try a little honesty or do the people a favor and move on.

By N-GA

October 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

RW,

You think I look foolish for providing multiple links discussing a Chambliss campaign ad that you foolishly continue to deny exists?

Have somebody read them to you, fool!

But I’ll post some of the text here: “Chambliss’ 30-second spot accusing Cleland of voting 11 times against a bill to create the Department of Homeland Security, announced, “Max Cleland says he has the courage to lead, but the record proves that is just misleading.” Even though Cleland’s record showed that he voted for a version of the bill that favored more protection for federal health care employee unions, President Bush and Miller supported the version that allowed the president complete control over hiring and firing of federal employees in the department. Although the message was strong, images of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein ignited the controversy surrounding the ad. The day the ad aired, Democrats sent e-mails around the country reporting that Chambliss’ team challenged Cleland’s patriotism. Further refuting the attack, Cleland appeared on the Judy Woodruff show at CNN the next day. U.S. Senator Zell Miller pointed to Cleland’s record in the Vietnam War, during which he lost both legs and an arm. “It’s disgraceful for anybody to question Max Cleland’s commitment to our national security,” argued Senator Zell Miller; “Max Cleland is my hero” (www.pbs.org, 2002). Chambliss’ team refused to admit that the ad challenged Cleland’s patriotism. Despite the controversy, Perdue held that “the pictures were not even a significant part of the ad. They were thrown in to magnify our words…in a time of turmoil and turbulence…they were dictators in the world” (Perdue, 2003). Perdue explained that the strategy was to “…undo his credibility because he was lying about his record…and we tried to undo his slogan” (Perdue, 2003). Chambliss’ campaign later spliced out the Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein images, contending that the controversy shifted attention away from the ad’s message.”

By JAY BOOKMAN

October 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

I wasn’t blogging at the time, RB, but the AJC editorial board of which I am a member published the following piece:

“In a radio ad broadcast just before the election, prominent black Atlantans lent their names, voices and credibility to an irresponsible attack on Republican candidates for the Fulton County Commission, implying that Republican victory would bring a time as dire as when attack dogs and fire hoses were turned on black Americans.

The ad for Democrat John Eaves, the eventual victor in the race, ran for a short time on a few radio stations and was sent via automated phone calls to selected Democratic households on Election Day.

“It’s been blown out of proportion, ” Eaves said. “I’m sorry people may have interpreted it wrong.”

Unfortunately, it’s hard to interpret it any other way, and the participation of U.S. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin and former mayor Andrew Young made the ad all the more appalling. The comments by Lewis, a man held in universal and well-deserved regard, were particularly inflammatory.

Even in a general election campaign characterized by advertisements appealing to the baser instincts of voters —- false claims that opponents support gay marriage or amnesty for illegal immigrants, for example —- Eaves’ ad went way over the line.

The ad was even more distressing because Eaves’ Republican opponent, Lee Morris, has a distinguished record of public service and has never used race in an attempt to divide people.

During the campaign, both Eaves and Morris promised new approaches to the county’s problems, most of which can be put at the feet of a dysfunctional County Commission. For more than a decade, it has been unable to agree on much of anything, largely because of political disputes in which race has played a major role.

Eaves criticized the current commission for its “spirit of discord.” But by playing the race card to motivate black voters, he has exacerbated the discord he claimed to want to fix. Unfortunately, he has also given ammunition to those who were seeking to split the county by creating a new, largely white Milton County in the north and a largely black Fulton County to the south.”

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Read your cut and paste and watch the ad Jay B posted here at the same time. You’ll find they are one in the same. I’ll refrain from stooping to your level of name calling.

Video please!

By Elizabeth Hartley Filliat

October 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Max Cleland is an American hero who is, and has been, an inspiration to veterans (and others) for whom life has not always dealt a fair hand. Words cannot express the degree of honor that should be given him. The different life choices made by Cleland and Chambliss speak louder than words could regarding each man’s merit. Elizabeth Filliat

By TN Gelding

October 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Paul

October 14, 2008 4:06 PM

Are you saying the “surge” worked?

There were many other factors involved.

Then why are they using Obama’s votes against him?

That’s one reason why it’s so hard for a senator to get elected president.

By AmVet

October 14, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

RB, perhaps this will help in your attempts at defining HONEST opinions:

Opinion -noun

Methinks thou dost protest too much…

By TN Gelding

October 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

getalife

October 14, 2008 4:20 PM

Fuzzy math and risky schemes!

By Elizabeth Hartley Filliat

October 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

Max Cleland is an American hero who is, and has been, an inspiration for disabled veterans and others for whom life has not dealt a fair hand. The different life choices made by Cleland and Chambliss speak louder than words could about the merit of each man. Elizabeth Filliat

By AJC/DNC Management

October 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

N-GA: The ad and your whining about the ad just further proves that democrats are unable to discuss the issues they get called on and instead can only resort to moronic schoolyard taunts, childish name calling and hysterical shrieking.

For example, see Kampaign, the Oblahma.

For six solid years now we have never heard why Cleland was right to oppose Homeland Security, the ad must have hit home, you reckon?

By GodHatesTrash

October 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

Was it a trick knee that Saxby Chickenhawk Chambliss suffered from, or was it a defect of the spine - you know, a yellow stripe down the middle of his back?

By Paul

October 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

Here’s the link of McCain responding to questions about Sen Obama at his rallies. Couldn’t find a similar one with Sen Obama.

Link: McCain says Obama decent, crowd boos

If a candidate is to be held responsible for the words of their supporters… well, if you’re an Obama supporter you may not want to read the ‘comments’ that are posted at the bottom of the youtube video.

By RW-(the original)

October 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Jay B,

That editorial about the Eaves ad was pretty good. It would have been excellent without the last sentence. The last sentence allows cynics to wonder if the true motivation behind the editorial board writing this wasn’t so much to excoriate Eaves as it was bemoaning the harm that was done to their desire to preserve the existing Fulton County.

Actually just getting rid of the first word of the last sentence would have worked.

By GodHatesTrash

October 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Hey Bund Wiser - you know, for being such a good voter, they’ll give you a little sticker with a peach on it that says “I voted”.

You can show it off to all the other retards.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

However he may seek to deny it, all evidence points to the fact that, from his position as board chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Barack Obama knowingly and persistently funded an educational project that shared the extremist and anti-American philosophy of Jeremiah Wright. The Wright affair was no fluke. It’s time for McCain to say so.-National Review

By Dusty

October 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Well,I see that AmVet is spreading his usual compliments about me. Most everyone knows the state of AmVet’s mind so I will not dwell on that.

But I am delighted to see that all the Veterans here are solidly behind all veterans. Therefore I do appreciate the fact that so many here are going to vote for the experienced, sensible VETERAN and POW JOHN MCCAIN.

So, thank you, AmVet and your Veterans Group that meets at the Veterans’ Hospital. I am certainly pleased that so many veterans are voting for THEIR MAN …GO JOHN MCCAIN 2008

By Paul

October 14, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

TN Gelding 5:34

Yes.

What the Iraqi gov’t did with it is something else again.

I don’t know which candidate you support, doesn’t really matter for these purposes, but some Sen Obama supporters have a bit of difficulty with his statement “I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,”…It’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.”

I don’t understand your point about using Sen Obama’s votes against him. I believe you mean regarding the surge and votes to get out by a date certain, as he wasn’t exactly able to vote on the initial resolution. My earlier point was, at the beginning, Sen Obama was opposed, Sen McCain was in favor.

Score: Obama.

When things went badly, Sen Obama was for a pullout that would have been completed months ago (one can argue if his vote was serious or posturing) and opposed the surge, in fact, said it could not succeed (not as extreme as Sen Reid’s “the war is lost” assertion) and Sen McCain was in favor of it.

Score: McCain

Not at all unusual in these circumstances. You’re right on some, wrong on others.

May I change your “That’s one reason why it’s so hard for a senator to get elected president” to “That’s one reason why it’s so much easier for a senator with a really, really short record to get elected president”?

:-)

By Taxpayer

October 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Palin’ around with terrorists…Is a VP candidate to be held responsible for using inflammatory remarks — remarks that could even incite violence. Not if that candidate is a Republican, huh.

Do Republicans believe that every voting age American should be treated equally and each share equally in the burden of supporting this nation of ours. Do they? Do they really. Should every single voting age person have the same odds of serving in any wars that we are led into? If yes, then why aren’t we using the draft now. Should every single voting age person be paying their fair share to fund the war. Well, first of all, what is a fair share. Should everyone have an equal stake at life or death. Should people with more “monetary value” pay more than those with less net worth. Well, in a free market system, we would each purchase insurance to cover our net worth and the insurance would cost more if your net worth is more so wealthy people should pay more for their “insurance” against having the assets blown off by a terrorist. Any one care to know why the wealthy should pay more in taxes for other services as well. It’s not a difficult concept. How about why corporations need to pay taxes. I know this one causes many Republicans a lot of grief but it’s not difficult to explain if one simply thinks about it.

By Paul

October 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

AmVet

Thanks for the definitions of opinion and how it’s a personal view when there’s not enough certainty to produce complete certainty.

I was thinking about that when I read the ‘conclusions’ on Palin’s Troopergate. Lots of opinions in that report.

By sunshine and thunder

October 14, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

As long as we’re tapping into the past:

You might be a liberal if:

You think Anita Hill was telling the truth about Clarence Thomas, but Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Linda Tripp, Dolly Kyle Browning, Sally Perdue, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broaddrick — among many others — were all lying about the Clintons.

(BTW, Chambliss NEVER dishonored Cleland’s military service in campaign ads.)

By TN Gelding

October 14, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

October 14, 2008 4:50 PM

Don’t forget the rebate checks that most of us didn’t need.

By TN Gelding

October 14, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

Paul

October 14, 2008 6:00 PM

Yeah, JFK was the last one and he hadn’t been there that long either.

What I meant was they keep throwing Obama’s voting record at him knowing it isn’t that black and white. The senate process is very cumbersome. Kerry did vote for that bill before he voted against it.

There are many reasons the violence level is down is Iraq, of which the surge is one. The “awakening”, that gave birth to the Sons Of Iraq, had a lot to do with it. That plus millions of Iraqis have fled the country and probably another million killed. Al Sadr deciding to wait to fight another day also played a big part, as did separating the ethnic groups with concrete barriers. The really smart ones have been waiting for U.S. troops to leave since they invaded.

I look for Obama to make these points if the opportunity arises tomorrow night. I think he just wanted to use the occasion to praise the troops before. We’ll see.

One thing we do know for sure, there was a surge in coalition casualties.

Of course al Qaeda Iraq overplayed its hand as well and turned the Sunnis against them.

Obama has always called for an orderly withdrawal over many months. I think Bush planned on staying forever at the start or at least until all the oil had been extracted.