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The horror that lies within
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It’s sitting there, on the kitchen counter. And it won’t go away.
I see it out of the corner of my eye every time I walk past, but I pretend I don’t. I pretend it’s not there.
But it is. And it’s waiting for me.
Just waiting…
Maybe today? Maybe today I’ll rip open the envelope and take a look at what has happened to my 401-K?
Nah. Not today. It’s Saturday. The market can’t go down on a Saturday.
Can it?





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Comments
By Davo
October 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
Unless your portfolio is heavy on oil company stocks and gold futures, why spoil your morning?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Yes, the threat of Oblahma has worked wonders with the economy.
Just think, if he wins the election, you probably won’t have a 401K to worry about.
The upsides, eh?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
CHICAGO (AP) - Jailed political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the Chicago real estate developer who helped launch Barack Obama on his political career, is whispering secrets to federal prosecutors about corruption in Illinois and the political fallout could be explosive.
Buh bye barry!
By getalife
October 11, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
“The latest InsiderAdvantage poll in Georgia finds challenger Jim Martin (D) has pulled into a tie with Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), 45% to 45%. The presidential race has also tightened with Sen. John McCain just edging Sen. Barack Obama, 49% to 46%.”
We should use the opportunity of the failed gop ideology and economic crisis to fix our broken government.
Start with firing the gop.
By Pro-Choice
October 11, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Obama’s mother should have chosen abortion.
By AmVet
October 11, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
The two bookends of the Bush administration - 9/11 and the financial meltdown.
Good job “conservatives”.
And in between? An endless series of imperious clustef&cks, rampant corruption, hubris unseen since Nixon and total incompetence.
Is it any wonder at all that you’re looking at a second consecutive slaughter this November?
And lest you wanna do that ostrich thing you’re so good at - you frauds have already lost the White House. Even if the RINO wins.
And to the good people of Georgia - please throw that POS Suxtobeus Chambless out of office.
That would make this election especially sweet…
By getalife
October 11, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Don’t read it Jay read this good news.
“Oil plunges to 13-month low on global slowdown”
$78.
By Dusty
October 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Yes, Bookman, and give a brief thought to Barny Franks(D) who blocked McCain’s efforts in Congress to stop the wild rush of subprime mortagages in financial markets. Seems that little step might have cleared your kitchen table of those nasty and naughty notes from your 401k.
Also, do keep that Obama literature on the table ‘cause he is going to SAVE you with free healthcare (paid for by taxpayers),suitable mortgages (paid for by taxpayers), food stamps and education (paid for by taxpayers) and a military ready to carry the white flag of diplomacy. Yes, sir, keep the Bookman brouhaha going for your savior Obama.
The rest of us prefer doing a few things for ourselves, not depending on the tax money of everybody else known as the government.
By Just_Me
October 11, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Jay
My husband has been logging on to a website that is tracking our 401K. His mood is almost always dictated by what that site tells him (I do know we’ve lost almost 15K since this mess started.)
I have now banned him from viewing that website-reminding him that we’re about 20 yrs away from retiring…
….step away from the envelope…..
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
The “horror” that is right now eating the United States alive:
“We are leading the effort to help people understand what is happening. This is where the next crisis for investors will be coming from,” he says. “Over the next 10 years we’re facing a $2.4 trillion tax increase as the Bush tax cuts expire. That’s baked into future budgets, and it will come out of the pockets of the 30 to 40% of the population that pays most of our taxes. It will impact available pools of liquidity, reducing wealth in this country, and mean less money available to invest.”
Like I said, forward looking capitalists know what a disaster Oblahma will be for the economy and are pulling their money out of harm’s way.
This freak hasn’t even taken office yet and he’s single handedly destroying the entire country.
Wonderful.
By ByteMe
October 11, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Hopefully, Jay, you had been reading Barry Ritholz for a while and moving as much as possible into cash, if that’s even possible in your 401(k). Some 401(k)’s are limited in that aspect, which is a shame.
If not, well, take comfort in not being alone.
There’s a trading bounce coming. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a 2000 point move to the upside over Nov-Dec. The signs are pointing to some kind of positive move in the near future, regardless of economic fundamentals. Too many professional investors are in cash and sitting on the sidelines. They just need a clear idea of where the “risk” is in the system and how bad the problem really is.
Did you read in today’s paper that they’re finally working to put together a formal CDS electronic exchange? This is a critical first step to getting the real underlying problem under control. The next step will be to regulate the “shadow banking system” that’s operating beneath the surface and causing all the problems.
By getalife
October 11, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Read the Saturday morning toons instead
By Morningstar
October 11, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
By Just_Me October 11, 2008 11:40 AM have now banned him from viewing that website-reminding him that we’re about 20 yrs away from retiring
Hubby and I are staying informed, but are definitely exploring ways to avoid having all ‘eggs in the same basket.’
I’m concerned for family and friends who have already reached retirement age, and some have only proceeds from their 401K and SS. Many companies have zapped their retirement plans and gone strictly to the 401K.
Some retired individuals will have very little other than their social security. Oh golly-gee, I keep forgetting. If that little fund had only been invested in the stock market years ago, all would be ‘filthy rich!’ Poor silly mortals!
By Nostradamus
October 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
More Things to Which to Look Forward Under President Obama:
Gangster Rappers Routinely Coming By the White House for ‘Photo Ops’ with “THE PREZ”
Felonious Pro Athletes with an Overabundance of “Body Art” Coming by the White House to “Keep It Real” with the President.
Self-Professed Ho’s and B!tc#es Accompanying Said Rappers & Pro Athletes to Shake Booty in the Halls of the White House.
Chicken Bones and Watermelon Seeds Thrown All Over the South Lawn of the White House Cleaned Up Repeatedly by OUR Tax Dollars
Higher Taxes
A Diminished American Military and Decreased Ability to Defend Our Nation
Jimmy Carter’s Second Presidential Term by Proxy
Freaknik on a Nationwide Scale on Election Night and on Inauguraton Day
A Worsened Economy That Turns Into a Depression
A Presidential Oath of Office Using the Koran Instead of the Holy Bible.
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Yippee!!!
By professional skeptic
October 11, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
And in between? An endless series of imperious clustef&cks, rampant corruption, hubris unseen since Nixon and total incompetence.
AmVet, don’t forget to add to your list an explosion of the national debt by trillions upon trillions of dollars, to an extent never before witnessed in the history of humankind. The shameless, unabashed, criminal theft of these trillions from generations of future taxpayers is nothing short of mindboggling.
I’m an accountant, so perhaps by nature I’m overly focused on the numbers. But nothing can sway me from the conclusion that we simply cannot allow a regime of relentless borrow-and-spenders to keep pounding our nation deeper and deeper into financial ruin. This is why I must vote for the democrats at every level in November. Nothing that McCain or Sonny or Saxby stand for has convinced me that they will do anything at all to stop the financial hemorrhaging of our once respectable nation brought about by the selfishness of the neoconservatives.
Rather than step up to the plate and pay for our nation’s desires and needs today, the repubilcans, out of sheer greed, self-righteousness and utter disregard for the well being of our children and grandchildren, have enacted financial policies allowing them to horde their own cash (much like the bailed-out banks are doing right now with their government slop) and instead use the cash borrowed from tomorrow’s taxpayers to finance their gluttonous addiction to overspending.
What is so wrong with the notion of pay as you go? Can a republican please explain this to me?
By professional skeptic
October 11, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management: I am calling you out right now: If the beloved tax cuts expire, and we actually have to start paying as we go, what is wrong with that?
By getalife
October 11, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
And the time to act is now. You may think that things can’t get any worse — but they can, and if nothing is done in the next few days, they will.
Paulson and his conflict of interest with Lehmamn made it worse.
When will he be forced to resign?
Still no accountability in this country.
By ByteMe
October 11, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
So let’s be clear about the debt/deficit.
Discretionary spending within the US government is running just shy of $1 TRILLION right now. Budget deficit is right around $500 BILLION. That means in order to balance the budget you’d either HAVE to raise taxes OR shut down half of it — which would throw all those people out of work and make matters much much worse (since those people pay taxes, would receive unemployment, etc.).
So, saying that you’re going to balance the budget by looking at specific line items or by freezing the discretionary part of the budget or looking at earmarks is COMPLETELY BOGUS.
You have to raise at least $500 BILLION in new revenue from the current tax base. How do you do that without raising taxes? Cutting taxes to stimulate the economy and increase revenues doesn’t work after a certain point (and we passed that point nearly 30 years ago), so that ideology has sailed.
Do tell all you anti-taxers.
Can’t cut Social Security without having old people and disabled people starve, so that won’t happen. Can’t stop Medicare/Medicaid for pretty much the same reason. Defense? Uhhh…. I think not.
And for you Fair Tax nonsense people, the Fair Tax is geared so that it raises the revenue being generated TODAY, which is still $500 Billion less than we need, so that’s not going to solve the problem either… unless you’re willing to accept that the percentage is actually higher than you’ve been sold.
Enjoy the exercise. Even Bush came up with the right answer buried in his 2009 budget.
By professional skeptic
October 11, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Apologies, I wrote horde when I meant hoard.
As in:
The greedy horde of neoconservatives love to hoard their own cash at the expense of tomorrow’s tax payers.
By T
October 11, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
Don’t look at it. Wait. If you do look at it(human nature to want to see a train wreck) have a sense of humor.
Friday I tried to open the online site to ajust my stocks that I buy each month. The site kept failing. They finally put up an error response with a number for active trading. I have stopped looking at my 401k a while ago.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
By professional skeptic October 11, 2008 12:25 PM AJC/DNC Management: I am calling you out right now: If the beloved tax cuts expire, and we actually have to start paying as we go, what is wrong with that?
Paying the deadbeats as we go?
Yes, dhimmi, let’s whack business off at the knees, who needs their jobs, their revenue, their products?
What is all that compared to throwing a big party every day with your 5 dollar government handout.
Wow, we’ll all be, uh, rich.
By professional skeptic
October 11, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC:
Strange, all I hear are crickets chirping. Still awaiting anything resembling an adequate response to my question.
By ByteMe
October 11, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
skeptic: that’s all you’ll ever hear. Unless he can cut-and-paste it from someone else’s analysis or name-call, he can’t seem to post it. It doesn’t seem possible for him to think things out for himself and discuss it like an intelligent being. So don’t waste your time waiting.
By T
October 11, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
By Nostradamus
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t forget.
The presidential vehicle brigade.
64’ Chevy impla’s with switches and 15in sub woofers. And spinners!
with nothing but white women in stiletto’s (fake finger nails long enough to write the name Sarah Becky-Lynn Smith on.) in the back seat.
The military will no longer salute but give “dap’s”
The Oval office will be fitted for a stripper pole.
This country will go to H…E…. double hockey sticks… if “that one” becomes PREZ.
was that racists?
I’m T and I almost threw up (then realized I have a sense of humor) and I approve this message.
Be afraid. Be very afraid
By getalife
October 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Funny how our friends on the right are still clinging to their failed ideology.
w killed capitalism, replaced it with socialism and spews “it is a good thing, he is in charge.”
The audacity of a dope. If he had any sense of patriotism, he would resign in disgrace.
By DING DING DING
October 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Skeptic asks What is so wrong with the notion of pay as you go?
Put that question to Nancy Pelosi (D). She promised “pay as you go” when the dems took over in 2004.
CCAGW BLASTS CHAIRMAN OBEY FOR $1 TRILLION BUDGET CIRCUS
It didn’t happen then and it won’t happen under an Obama presidency. It will get worse with a dem majority in both houses. They waste what they could have and what they haven’t had in the past 3 yrs.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
O.K. dhimmis let’s try it this way:
How will a tax credit for those who don’t pay taxes to begin with help the economy?
When it taken from people who create jobs?
Ever heard of reparations?
May want to look it up.
The United States is fixing to get bled for all of it’s past “wrongdoings” and “unfairness.” A lib can’t open their mouth without hating on America or spewing some stupid socialist code word and with unchecked power they will make their dreams come true.
Can you say buh bye economy?
By mike hussein smith
October 11, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
Jay: The bottom line on your 401k is gonna knock you into the floor. It will be ugly, it will be depressing, it will ruin your weekend. On the other hand, it will give you an even bigger picture of what has happened under the GWB watch.
T — In space, no one can hear you scream so how about hopping a NASA flight?
By JB
October 11, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
Thanks for all the coverage of ACORNs blatant attempt to steal the election. Oh, wait, there isn’t any. Plenty of stuff about Palins mis-steps, of course they don’t matter to anybody outside of Alaska.
Morons.
JB
By professional skeptic
October 11, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Sigh. Point taken, ByteMe.
By Eric1
October 11, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Oh great! Miss Mgmt says the economy has gone to hell because Obama is running for president. That’s rich! Thanks for the chuckle, Einstein. And another thing, your cute little b******* are not clever, they’re juvenile. What a miserable presence you must be.
By DING DING DING
October 11, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
…make that 2006. The dems took control of congress in 2006. My bad.
By Bosch
October 11, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
JB,
ACORN is the one who brought the attention of the problem to the surface. I’m not sure if you are aware of this, but in many of the states that ACORN operates, they are required by law to turn in ALL registration forms, even the ones who are problematic. ACORN workers actually flagged the problematic forms to make it easier for the election workers to process.
Or do you really want to hear all that?
You don’t read about the problem, because there isn’t one.
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Today’s liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that used to pride themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.
Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech that they don’t like and seem utterly oblivious to claims that this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.
We can also add a whole new department to the federal government that ByteMe says can never be made smaller for fear that somebody would have to find a real job.
The Department of Speech and Thought Police or should I call it the Ministry.
Jay B,
Open the envelope. It probably only goes through September so you’ll probably think it’s much better than you expected. Don’t open the next one though.
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
How many people do we have to see interviewed for having filled out multiple registration cards that tell the interviewer that even though they told the ACORN worker they were already registered the ACORN worker hounded them until they filled out another card do we have to see before you knock off that silly insistence that the ACORN workers are forced by law to turn in the cards?
Do you really think the other cards that are filled out in fake names or famous names are really filled out by people on the street forcing the ACORN worker to turn them in or is it more likely the ACORN worker filled out that card?
By John Doxey
October 11, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Please tell the people about Sarah Palin’s link to the radical secessionist party, Alaska Independence Party.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/
By sunshine and thunder
October 11, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
JAY
We all know that, if Obama is elected, your 401(k) will recover all of its losses the next day.
Either that or he’ll steal half of it to pay for some of his promises.
By Bosch
October 11, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
RW,
They are required by law to turn in the cards, and report workers who abuse the system. Like I heard this morning, it’s very unlikely that “mr. Jive Turkey” will show up to vote.
And whose to say that the workers aren’t working for McCain to throw suspicion on ACORN?
I mean, one ridiculous claim is just as good as another, right?
By boatdeliverf
October 11, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
ocean see trust sea right trust
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Yes Bosch,
Our ridiculous claims are identical except for the part where mine is backed by evidence and yours was pulled directly out of your nether regions.
We both agree that Mr. Jive Turkey won’t show up at the polls so if one applies critical thinking to the situation the obvious first question is why the flood of cards. The obvious choice would be workers being paid by the card, but ACORN swears they don’t do that. If we accept them at their word we have to delve deeper.
One “why” answer is to cause as much confusion and workload in the registrars office as possible leaving them precious little time to look over absentee ballots that come in. There is always a deadline to verify absentee ballots and once that ballot comes out of its envelope it has to be counted as a vote. If you keep the workers eyes on new registrations and off the absentee ballot envelopes you can wreak all sorts of havoc.
By sunshine and thunder
October 11, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
PROFESSIONAL SKEPTIC
You wrote:
If the beloved tax cuts expire, and we actually have to start paying as we go, what is wrong with that?
Have you noticed that the economy is not exactly humming along on eight cylinders? Did you study economics? You don’t raise taxes when the economy is weak.
As for tax cuts increasing revenue there is no debate about that. It happened with the JFK cuts in the 60’s, with the Reagan cuts in the 80’s and with the Bush cuts in the 00’s.
Now you may look at this chart and conclude that revenues also increased after the Clinton tax increases but, remember, there was a dot com bubble going on in the 90’s
What government wonks and academic liberals never consider is the behavioral adaptations that occur with changes in the tax rate.
By GodHatesTrash
October 11, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
The Palins and the Alaska Independence Party - interesting info:
So who are these America-haters that the Palins are pallin’ around with?
Before his strange murder in 1993, party founder Vogler preached armed insurrection against the United States of America. Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, “When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion. They think they own [Alaska]. There comes a time when people will choose to die with honor rather than live with dishonor. That time may be coming here. Our goal is ultimate independence by peaceful means under a minimal government fully responsive to the people. I hope we don’t have to take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights, look out, we’re ready to die.”
This quote is from “Coming Into the Country,” by John McPhee, who traipsed around Alaska’s remote gold mining country with Vogler for his 1991 book. The violent-tempered secessionist vowed to McPhee that if any federal official tried to stop him from polluting Alaska’s rivers with his earth-moving equipment, he would “run over him with a Cat and turn mosquitoes loose on him while he dies.”
Vogler wasn’t just a blowhard either. He put his secessionist ideas into action, working to build AIP membership to 20,000 — an impressive figure by Alaska standards — and to elect party member Walter Hickel as governor in 1990.
Vogler’s greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States “tyranny” before the entire world and to demand Alaska’s freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.
That’s right … Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.
The Palins consort with enemies of the US.
By GMAN
October 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
The Alaska Independence Party… So who are these America-haters that the Palins are pallin’ around with?
Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s futures… and losing!
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
This OU-Texas game is a great one. Paul must be having a blast.
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If the reason Governor Palin fired Monegan was for not firing The Taser Terrorist Wooten and Monegan was immediately replaced by Chuck Kopp, why is it Wooten is still a trooper? Wouldn’t logic dictate that Kopp would have fired Wooten?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.9/2/08 NY Treason Times.
Let’s see here, Palin is the Republican vice presidential nominee, she was the Republican Governor of Alaska, she was a Republican mayor of Wasilla, so that must mean she belongs to the Alaska Independence Party!
Only in Moonbatville.
By TN Gelding
October 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Jay B.
Someone might have already pointed this out, but that statement is history. It will look fat compared to what it’s worth today. Take another 15% off and that should give you a ballpark figure.
By mike hussein smith
October 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
One of Todd’s buddies in the secessionist party denounced the Stars and Bars as “that damn flag” and said he wanted to be buried in what is now the state of Alaska, but “not in America.” Now, how can that be accomplished. And let’s not forgive the casting of demons from Sarah herself by a witch hunter who seems to think it’s OK to persecute anyone he chooses. These two cancel out Jeremiah Wright!!!
Note to Ding ding ding: Dems didn’t actually take control of Congress until 2007.
By Midori
October 11, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
The audacity of a dope.
is that your’s, Getalife???? FUN-NY!!! :)
The Onion video on the Saturday funnies link had me howling with laughter: “Bush explores the damage he’s done to our country”
ROFL!!!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Environmental junk science terrorism has wormed it’s way into every thought and musing of the common pinko:
Once a ship is captured, the options to respond shrink quickly. If pirates followed through on a threat to sink or set afire a tanker, the environmental damage would be devastating -Chicago Tribune/Oblahma Birth Parent
Would any rational, non babbling person like to tell us all how many tons of shipping went to the bottom during World War 2?
Seems to me as though we recovered very nicely.
Who knows, maybe the fever swamps are still a mess?
By mike hussein smith
October 11, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
resent for editing:
One of Todd’s buddies in the secessionist party denounced the Stars and Bars as “that damn flag” and said he wanted to be buried in what is now the state of Alaska, but “not in America.” Now, how can that be accomplished? And let’s not forget the casting of demons from Sarah herself by a witch hunter who seems to think it’s OK to persecute anyone he chooses. These two cancel out Jeremiah Wright!!!
Note to Ding ding ding: Dems didn’t actually take control of Congress until January 2007.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
During the Great Depression, U.S. output plunged 27% in four years; unemployment neared a third of the work force. Real private investment shrank 87% in three years; personal spending plunged 41%. We’re not close to that. Nor are we likely to be — unless we foolishly pursue high-tax policies that would kill growth.-Investors Business Daily
Hey, isn’t Oblahma a fool?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
This has happened before with ACORN, and the question is how closely associated with Obama is it? And we know he was once the general counsel of ACORN in Illinois way back when.
And we know that in the primary season in Ohio he hired an organization called “Citizens Service, Inc,” a private organization. He gave it over $800,000 to do political work.
It turns out that the board of directors of that and the local ACORN is identical, so essentially it was a front.
So it is an organization with very close ties and is obviously engaging in a lot of places in what looks like fraud, and I think the Obama campaign has to answer to this.
By AmVet
October 11, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Hey neoliths, where have you been?
Other than making countless voters scratch their heads in wonder and therefore probably costing the not-remotely-conservative Republicans the White House, Sarah BarraClueless is completely irrelevant.
But she’s gonna have a bright future with the lunatic fringe as she keeps an eye on those Rooskie commies.
Maroons…
By Morningstar
October 11, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
By Bosch October 11, 2008 1:31 PM ACORN workers actually flagged the problematic forms to make it easier for the election workers to process. Or do you really want to hear all that?
Answer: No they don’t, and wouldn’t listen if it bit them on the butskie!!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the “fairness doctrine” on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can’t abide having citizens hear contrary views.-Michael Barone
I know, I know, shut up!
By N-GA
October 11, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Looks like President Castro, uh President Chavez, uh President Bush is going to nationalize the banks.
What next???
By Midori
October 11, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Andy,
PLEASE shut up.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
And there’s an Obama premium being paid in this market as people flee capitalism. I heard Kelsey Grammer talking about this today, saying why he’s gotten out of the market in July because he didn’t want to be around when Obama was president. And I think the answer to that has to be that the markets are not happy at the thought of the most left-wing government in American history.-Hugh Hewitt/ Mark Steyn
By Morningstar
October 11, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the original) October 11, 2008 1:46 PM | Bosch, How many people do we have to see interviewed for having filled out multiple registration cards that tell the interviewer that even though they told the ACORN worker they were already registered the ACORN worker hounded them until they fill…………….
What an interesting observation. No way can we have duplications at the polls. Those tried and true voting machines can’t be wrong or ‘fixed’ now can they??
By getalife
October 11, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
“There is no floor. Republicans could lose 10-12 senate seats and 25 seats in the House.” — Ed Rollins, GOP expert, on CNN
Fire all of them and bring back accountability to this country
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 11, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
Here’s one to look forward to….Who built Sarah Palin’s house?
Village Voice is on it.
Yes, Duh, the first dude was a member - an intimate associate of the Governor. There is a nifty video of her giving a welcoming address to their convention this year.
The Acorn raids are another stunt. They’ve been a target of the GOP for years. If y’all remember, some US Attorney’s got fired a while back….wouldn’t prosecute Acorn because after exhaustive investigation they could not find any voter fraud.
DOJ has prosecuted 38 cases of voter fraud since 2002, 14 were tossed out.
All Americans who are eligible to vote should be allowed and encouraged to. Even Republicans.
Again, for those with an open mind and a patriotic soul, the problem in not voter fraud, it’s election fraud.
Black box voting. Caging lists. Purging rolls. Fake absentee ballots. Student voter intimidation. The numbers are in the hundreds of thousands. The Feds are looking into it in GA.
Check your voters registration on line. Please vote early.
Did the myth of tax decreases increasing revenues rear it’s ugly head again?
Reality: A study by the President’s own Treasury Department confirmed the common-sense view shared by economists across the political spectrum: cutting taxes decreases revenues….. The claim that tax cuts pay for themselves also is contradicted by the historical record. In 1981, Congress substantially lowered marginal income-tax rates on the well off, while in 1990 and 1993, Congress raised marginal rates on the well off. The economy grew at virtually the same rate in the 1990s as in the 1980s (adjusted for inflation and population growth), but revenues grew about twice as fast in the 1990s, when tax rates were increased, as in the 1980s, when tax rates were cut. Similarly, since the 2001 tax cuts, the economy has grown at about the same pace as during the equivalent period of the 1990s business cycle, but revenues have grown far more slowly. (http://www.cbpp.org/3-8-06tax.htm)
Reading is FUNdamental.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless benefits, money for food stamps and possibly a tax rebate, officials said Saturday.
An Obama spokesman, Bill Burton, said the campaign is monitoring the situation.
The candidate has said previously he favors $25 billion to help states meet their own needs, another $25 billion for roads, bridges and other infrastructure, and $65 billion for tax rebates paid for by a windfall profits tax on oil.
Another $14.7 billion was ticketed to help states cover Medicaid costs. Enrollment in the federal-state health care program for the poor and disabled often rises with unemployment.
Buh bye economy.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
McCain’s letter — signed by nineteen other senators — said that it was “…vitally important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]…operate in a safe and sound manner.[and]..More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American taxpayer is protected in the event that either…should fail.”
Sen. Obama did not sign the letter, nor did any other Democrat.
By getalife
October 11, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
The McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards before a national election.
Mavericks, oh yeah.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
“People are trying to stay in their homes, keep their jobs,” McCain said. “Is what they want for us to yell at each other? No. They want us to sit down, Republican and Democrat, and work together.”
Civil rights icon John Lewis compared Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to George Wallace in a posting to Politico’s forum “The Arena,” accusing McCain of fostering “an atmosphere of hate” and “hostility” like the one that led to white supremacists’ 1963 bombing of a church in Birmingham, Ala.
FRANK RICH: Fire stoked by McCain/Palin raging out of control…
MORON DUDD: McCain/Palin rouse the mob against Obama…
So who do you think the haters are?
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 11, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
OH NO!!!!
Future President wants to try having economic benefits trickle up
I can just see the next invocation at a McCain rally….
Dear God please don’t let these damn socialists and freaking commies give the American citizens money to the American Citizens. That would be so un American! We know lord, you’d rather modest American families sit back and watch while their treasury is looted and stuffed onto a few hundred private jets and sent to banks in Switzerland.
We know you like us better!
By Morningstar
October 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
By Mrs.Godzilla October 11, 2008 4:25 PM s,e Acorn raids are another stunt. They’ve been a target of the GOP for years. If y’all remember, some US Attorney’s got fired a while back….wouldn’t prosecute Acorn because after exhaustive investigation they could not find any voter fraud.
Mrs. Godzilla, if Obama doesn’t come back ‘swinging,’ he will be SWIFTBOATED just as John Kerry was in the prior election. At this point, I don’t see the Obama campaign letting a sleeping dog lie.
John Kerry would have been a wonderful president, but he or his campaign elected to dismiss the allegations as : ANYONE WHO WOULD BELIEVE THIS CR@@* must be stupid! True enough, but we have a stupid society of racists, uninformed and downright mean.
At this point, I see Obama fighting back, and hopefully will continue!!!!!!!!
By AmVet
October 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
Tyrus, I could not agree more with your assertion that the tide turned for the liberal view when the right couldn’t stop questioning the left’s patriotism as the Iraq War descended into madness.
I’ve shared this story before, but to your point it bears repeating.
Right before shock and awe, Bill O’Reilly said that Americans who continued to protest after the bombs started falling were unAmerican.
The next night he came on and said that he had over spoken on that matter. And as I had only been watching him a short time, I thought, “Hey, maybe this guy isn’t the total creep he appears to be!”
I should have known better.
His correction? They weren’t unAmerican, just bad Americans.
I knew right then that, though it would take some time to come back and roost, the chicken hawks were doomed.
And though I suspected he would be a horrific “wartime” CIC, I couldn’t know that the deceitful King George IV would ultimately and completely bungle his chosen war in Iraq.
But the silver lining is that it, as much or more than the other disasters of his administration, has spelled the demise of these not-remotely-conservative neo-cons…
Republican Bloodbath, Part Deux. Coming to an election everywhere this November.
By ByteMe
October 11, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC: You of course fail to mention that Republicans were in control of both houses and the Presidency when that letter was written and signed.
Blame yourself. You enabled them.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
Abuse of power, eh?
The allegations of a “partisan witch hunt” began when the legislative master of the investigation, Democratic state Senator Hollis French, started promising an “October Surprise” and embarrassment for John McCain before one witness had even been deposed. French further clouded the investigation by interfering with subpoenas, blocking one for a witness to a meeting in which all other attendees had been subpoenaed … and that witness had run the meeting, and was also Palin’s chief of staff. There is plenty of evidence that French wanted a partisan outcome and not justice.
Branchflower puts under a microscope every direct and indirect contact that can possibly be claimed to to come, directly or indirectly, from Gov. Palin or her husband, Todd. In none of them did either Sarah or Todd Palin demand or request that Wooten be fired. Some of them date back to before Gov. Palin was even a candidate for governor. All of them are equally well explained by legitimate concerns that Wooten was a potential threat to the Palin family (having already made death threats against Gov. Palin’s father) and/or an embarrassment to the Alaska Department of Public Safety and the entire state law enforcement community. That the Palins also had strong — and entirely understandable! — negative feelings about Trooper Wooten does not make any of these communications remotely improper, much less illegal.-Ed Morrisey
McBushie: Here is the perfect opportunity to explain to the American public exactly who it is that is “abusing power” for a political gain.
It ain’t the Republicans.
By N-GA
October 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Jay,
I don’t know if you get professional investment/retirement advice, and I’m not offering it (in terms of whether you should invest in specific stocks, bonds, etc.).
However, there is a simple rule: The closer you get to retirement, the more you should move some of your investments into things that focus on safety and preservation of principle. I can’t believe how many people in their 60’s and 70’s still have a lot of their investments in equities. I know one women who, at 75 years of age, saw her portfolio go from $2.1 million to $800K during the “dot.com” bust.
When you are young, you can afford to lose some money because you have plenty of time to catch up, but…..
By Morningstar
October 11, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
By N-GA October 11, 2008 5:20 PM The closer you get to retirement, the more you should move some of your investments into things that focus on safety and preservation of principle
Get this one y’all!! The ‘Enron’ principle doesn’t work!!!
By AmVet
October 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
Palin heightens rhetoric on abortion.
Ms. Palin must sense that things are now truly desperate for her chances to act as the presiding officer of the US Senate.
She’s resorting to the wedge issue of abortion that rallies the neo-con base but alienates independent and women voters.
This is the VERY thing McCain could not afford to do.
Again, someone please tell me, what the h&ll was he thinking when he chose her?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 11, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
By ByteMe October 11, 2008 5:14 PM AJC/DNC: You of course fail to mention that Republicans were in control of both houses and the Presidency when that letter was written and signed. Blame yourself. You enabled them.
I’ll let the democrats respond to that:
Don’t the American people deserve to know that Democrat Barney Frank, then ranking member and now chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said, “I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing”? Isn’t the fact that the ranking Democrat in charge of oversight of Fannie Mae was in a sexual relationship with a high-ranking Fannie Mae executive a glaring conflict of interest? Isn’t it worth noting that Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters insisted, “we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and in particular at Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines”? Shouldn’t the American people know that Democratic Rep. Gregory Meeks insist that “there’s been nothing that was indicated that’s wrong with Fannie Mae”?
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Still think the ACORN/fraud story isn’t entering mainstream consciousness?
By sunshine and thunder
October 11, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
ALL
Watch out all you left nuts. Mr. Obama’s facade is peeling away.
Remember the name Tony Rezko?
You may want to Google Alexi Giannoulias and Michael Giorango.
Also, I guess you know that a lawsuit has been filed claiming that Mr. Obama is not a natural citizen. Even that one is gaining legs.
Of course, all Mr. Obama has to do is release his birth certificate. He won’t. Why not?
Is he a John Kerry wanna be? We never did see Kerry’s service records.
By mike hussein smith
October 11, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Management, I know doorknobs that are smarter than you. How the hell do you expect the government to get a grip on its spending habits without raising taxes? Sorry, but cutting funds for a bear study won’t make a blip in a sea of red. And your attempt to whitewash the Alaska report is plain silly as Republicans have backed the investigation and, as I understand it, a bipartisan panel approved it unanimously last night. Furthermore, Todd Palin wasn’t elected anything so the idea of him using wifey’s office to question bureaucrats — and her allowing it — don’t pass the sniff test. And the McCain letter, do you have any proof that he actually sent it to Democrats and sought their signatures? All that letter does is ask the gop SENATE leadership to schedule debate. How did the Democrats kill this when the gop had such a big majority?
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Let’s see if Blowhard has misrepresented things at 5:34 shall we?
I listened when he defended his unconditional support for unlimited abortions. He said that a woman shouldn’t have to be – quote – “punished with a baby.” He said that right here in Johnstown –“punished with a baby” – and it’s about time we called him on it. The more I hear from Senator Obama, the more I understand why he is so vague and evasive on the subject. Americans need to see his record for what it is. It’s not negative or mean-spirited to talk to about his record. Whatever party you belong to, there are facts you need to know.
Senator Obama has voted against bills to end partial-birth abortion. In the Illinois Senate, a bipartisan majority passed legislation against that practice. Senator Obama opposed that bill. He voted against it in committee, and voted “present” on the Senate floor. In that legislature, “present” is how you vote when you’re against something, but don’t want to be held to account.
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a Democrat, described partial-birth abortion as “too close to infanticide.” Barack Obama thinks it’s a constitutional right, but he is wrong.
Most troubling, as a state senator, Barack Obama wouldn’t even stand up for the rights of infants born alive during an abortion. These infants – often babies with special needs – are simply left to die
In 2002, Congress unanimously passed a federal law to require medical care for those babies who survive an abortion. They’re living, breathing babies, but Senator Obama describes them as “pre-viable.” This merciful law was called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Illinois had a version of the same law. Obama voted against it.
Asked about this vote, Senator Obama assured a reporter that he’d have voted “yes” on that bill if it had contained language similar to the federal version of the Born Alive Act. There’s just one little problem with that story: the language of both the state and federal bills was identical
My, my it was a misrepresentation.
Sorry for the length of the excerpt, but I trimmed it as tightly as possible.
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 11, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
ACORN and the birth certiciate.
LORDY, LORDY!!! The radical right has been to the garage sale of all the old radical left and bought all the old tinfoil hats
They have updated them though now. Included are radio headsets tuned in to Hannity et. al. Only problem, they have trouble getting replacement transistor tubes
I saw that Barack Obama is the father of Jamie Lynn Spears’ baby! I got an e-mail pinkie-swearing that Barack Obama wears boxers imprinted with Terror R Us! Michelle Obama once hailed a cab driven by a guy in a turban. Joe Biden dug up Tip O’Neal to steal those hairplugs!
Got 101K?
Election Fraud.
Election Fraud.
Election Fraud.
By getalife
October 11, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Ah, abortion.
There goes the last of the Clinton supporters.
Game over.
By AmVet
October 11, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
How could anyone, but the most dense and arrogant intentionally misunderstand the desperation factor I alluded to?
Of course, Sen. McCain is anti-abortion. Of course, he has advocated Roe v. Wade be settled by the individual states. Of course.
His shrewdly NOT playing it up is what got him here.
He’s had to dance that razor edge of fooling both the independents and the “base”.
That he had “that one” do it NOW is very risky, if not stuntingly stupid.
Just like the juvenile retort to my original point.
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 11, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
Pointed out in the den of sin that is the left wing blogosphere…..
McCain-Palin
The first presidential ticket in AMerica where both candidates have been found guilty of viiolating ethics laws.
By getalife
October 11, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this
Man At Palin Rally Displays Monkey Doll Donning Obama Sticker
That you Andy?
By Ray
October 11, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this
C’mon , Ms G, you can gloss over this ACORN thing as much as you want but it stinks. It reeks of corruption. Even though most of the people who submitted fraudulent voter registration papers probably will not vote, about 40% of this organization’s funding is from your tax dollars. You would probably like it if 100% of their funding came from my tax dollars but not yours. This would make everything right. I don’t like supporting a far left organization who breaks the law, even if you do. Are the drunks and homeless so important to the Demos that they would perpetrate fraud and deception to have them on the voter roles? Great people to be picking our next president, huh, Mrs G? Informed, well read and conscientious Americans just wanting to make things right. And you support this crap? Must say something about your character and integrity along with your pal Bookman. Both of you are pathetic.
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this
*found guilty *??????
Mrs. G,
An investigator’s finding does not a guilty verdict make and McCain was never found guilty of any ethical law either. An investigator’s finding is a claim, not a trial and McCain was found to have done nothing besides exercising bad judgment.
You’re fond of telling people to read, but when you limit your sources to the fever swamps beware of what you think you know.
By GodHatesTrash
October 11, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
October surprise - McCain dumps Palin ostensibly over Troopergate, but really just because s/he’s trash. Replaces her with a serious candidate, not another clown…
By beki
October 11, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this
No one on this board has mentioned “prochoice‘“s remark about Obama’s mother; although, I would rather ignore such a cruel remark, this time I cannot. If you cannot argue logically and prudently against Obama: say nothing. You and others on this blog have no earthly idea how Obama would rule if he were elected; and, the way that McCain and Palin are questioning his heritage has given their supporters ( mostly lower-class whites ) vent to racist, hateful language that reminds me of the 1950s and 1960s white supremicists.
By Midori
October 11, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this
We never did see Kerry’s service records.
I can’t believe how completely lost, ignorant and uninformed the right is.
still regurgitating that filth after 4 years.
how can you find something your never looked for in the first place?
By AmVet
October 11, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
Nixon taught politicians (the hard way, mind you) about being unethical but not quite illegal.
He blew it and both parties have been perfecting the art ever since.
The debate shouldn’t be about which party has the most and biggest crooks and con artists.
It should be about why do we tolerate this from these arrogant people who are paid by us and supposed to work for us as our “leaders.
The two parties know they own you.
That’s why…
By RW-(the original)
October 11, 2008 6:42 PM |