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DEL.ICIO.USPalin’s Troopergate scandal was fabricated by Bill Ayers — really, read it here first!
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Palin Troopergate report will be made public later today, once the folks in Alaska wake up.
And no, that’s not a political comment, although I guess it could be.
Now, I know how our conservative friends will respond to that news: “Oh yeah, why don’t you tell the truth about Bill Ayers? How come the mainstream media never write the truth about that, huh!”
Indeed, the right-wing blogs and email networks are all abuzz this morning with the latest theory on that front, the claim that Ayers and Obama are so close that Ayers, not Obama, actually wrote the senator’s best-selling memoir “Dreams From My Father.”
The claim originates here, and it’s based in large part on the notion that the book is too well-written for someone of Obama’s obviously limited talent and intellect:
“The public is asked to believe Obama wrote “Dreams From My Father” on his own, almost as though he were some sort of literary idiot savant. I do not buy this canard for a minute, not at all. Writing is as much a craft as, say, golf. To put this in perspective, imagine if a friend played a few rounds in the high 90s and then a few years later, without further practice, made the PGA Tour. It doesn’t happen.”
Of course, we in the MSM have known this all along. The fact that Ayers wrote Obama’s autobiography and has masterminded his career was on the top-secret list of things we are never allowed to talk about. I have that list right here, printed on special Dharma Initiative stationary.
However, since the truth is now out and the reporting ban has been breached, I might as well tell you about some other things on the list. If I get fired for this, so be it. Maybe Fox will take me in.
Are you ready? Here goes:
1.) Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone. The mysterious Man with the Umbrella was actually William Ayers. And if you look closely in the Zapruder film, you can see a two-year-old black child holding what the FBI has long dismissed as a toy gun. Don’t believe it. That second shot had to come from somewhere — those evil madrassas teach kids to shoot before they’re even potty trained.
If you want more proof, remember who “covered” the JFK assassination for CBS, who just “by coincidence” happened to be nearby when it happened? That’s right — Dan Rather. Need I say more?
2.) You think it’s an accident that the TelePrompter had already been in use for more than 50 years when Barack Obama came along? As his dismal performance in the debates has proved, Obama could never have gotten this far without it. Knowing that, Bill Ayers invented the device back in the ’50s just to throw off suspicion.
How could that be true, since Ayers was himself a child back then? Two words: Time machine.
3.) You know who was responsible for those butterfly ballots down in Florida that got George Bush elected president? Yup. Bill Ayers again. It was all part of the master plan: To elect Obama, they first had to put somebody in as president who would run the country into the ground and thoroughly discredit modern conservatism.
You don’t think this all happened by accident, do you?
There’s more, but I fear I’ve revealed too much already. Those of you who care for the truth should do an immediate screengrab on this post, because it won’t stay long once Ayers gets wind of it.
And if you never hear from me again, you’ll know why.
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By "The Corporal"
October 10, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
How about something on the DemAcorns and Acorngate?
By nobama
October 10, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Here you go again, Jay. But at least you finally admit in print that Obama can’t survive without a teleprompter! There is no doubt that obummer and ayers have been close for years, and your feeble attempt along with the rest of the liberal media goons to try and deny it is just sickening. The obummer camp knows it’s true and have been trying to hush it up for days now.
Palin has the guts to expose obummer in any way neccessary and the fact that the libs just can’t handle it obviously gives it even more weight. Wake up the real reality that she would be a truly great benefit to this country.
By BDAtlanta
October 10, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Hehehe. Thanks. I needed a good chuckle this morning.
So, number 3 isn’t true?
By Paul
October 10, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Jay
Yesterday you started quite a discussion when a religious person offered a prayer - what - imploring God for a McCain victory, saying how God was for lower taxes and all that. Lots of fun, really.
Had to happen, On the other side of the great divide we have another religious leader offering, not a prayer, but an assertion that Sen Obama is an instrument of God and to those who work for his election, Sen Obama is the Messiah (a word with powerful connotations in several religions, one of which is as God).
See? The farleft and farright aren’t all that dissimilar!
Link: The Messiah is Absolutely Speaking
By lovelyliz
October 10, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
The neo-cons are every bit the crybabies over the mere possibility that they will lose this presidential election as they’ve ever accused the rest of us of being.
By lovelyliz
October 10, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
I can see it now, Bill Ayers wrote it with Bill Clinton as a guest writer.
By Paul
October 10, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Jay
I got to the fifth paragraph and thought “haven’t these guys ever heard of a ghost writer? There are plenty of people who make very good livings writing drafts for ‘authors’ - particularly celebrities and politicians.”
But the rest of your post strikes me as more of the “ridicule the messenger rather than discredit the message” type. I know, I know, you must get weary of repeatedly discrediting many of the Ayers assertions and want to have a bit of fun. You may be interested - last night your buddy BOR had a guest who was making the “Ayres” assertion. BOR responded with his usual comeback (cut off by the guest - Laura Ingram, I believe) that Sen Obama was introduced to, and used, the power brokers in the Illinois political power structure, got what he needed and moved on in his ascent to the national level. It’s a practical, dismissive argument that does not sit well with many of the guests (or viewers, judging by the letters).
By Original Rick
October 10, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
I have also spent a lot time investigating Ayers.
The most amazing thing that I have uncovered is that, in the 60s, along with his Weatherman activities, he also was an undercover Viet Cong operative. It was actually Ayers who was operating the weapons who shot down McCain’s airplane.
If yo look really carefully at current pictures of Ayers, you can still see that the surgery to take the “slant” out of his eyes was not totally successful. He still has that little squint.
By BDAtlanta
October 10, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Have you seen some of the McCain and Palin rallies? Conservatives are freaking out. Like rabid dogs.
I wouldn’t suggest anyone put Obama bumper stickers on their cars or signs in their yards as you might be opening yourself up to real physical assault from these fruit cakes.
By Joey
October 10, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Cute, Jay.
But you are right to take the path of deflecting truth by using humor. Choosing the path of facing the truth, honestly, would be destructive to your personal campaign for Democrats.
Not just the Ayers and Wright truth, but the Freddie and Fannie truth.
And you did reveal much, maybe too much. Panic in the Democrat Streets. Justified Panic.
By lovelyliz
October 10, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
I can see it now, Bill Ayers wrote it with Bill Clinton as a guest writer.
Either that or Osama bin Laden. Never mind that it isn’t true and that such well debunked gossip is the stuff of playgrounds.
By Taxpayer
October 10, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Thank you, Jay. I needed that pick-me-up. Your theories do remind me however of some tall-tales that I have heard myself from our exalted Republicans. The most common culprit behind all that ails us was, for years, the aliens. Yes, the aliens, in all their beady-eyed splendor, came here illegally and left a life of luxury and excesses in order to wrought pain and agony on the populace of these fair-skinned southeastern states (while ignoring the dark-skinned ones because they looked remarkably like distant relatives) for the pure pleasure of seeing us watch them rob us of our jobs in chicken processing plants by offering to work for mere dollars per hour and even refusing to accept so much as a single dollar’s worth of health care benefits, paid sick days or even vacation days. THEN, yes, it gets even more dastardly, THEN, these illegal aliens turn around and send their ill-gotten gains back to their home worlds without so much as paying a single penny in payroll taxes toward their own social security number. HOW DARE THEM. AND, there’s even more but I’m just too distraught to go on. Oh, the horror stories I could share with you and I have those open and caring Republicans to thank for passing on these otherwise untold tragedies.
By paisana
October 10, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
This doesn’t work as satire, JJ , because Republicans have been lampooning you guys for years for making similar charges against Karl Rove . Himmel! Don’t you volk have any original ideas?
By lrd
October 10, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Mix of Spy Magazine and Yellow Journalism. Classic..
You are missing the real story. Ayer is Professor of Education. So logically one would say he has taught hundreds if not thousands over the year. They in turn have taught hundreds if not thousands of others. And over 10yrs of him teaching others, and then his pupils teaching, that the REAL headline should be Ayers Army of Loyal Followers are poised to take over America!
But for some reason the media is not picking up on that story!!
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Jay,
And I’ve also heard Bill Ayers kills fuzzy baby kittens and puppies and sells them for farm food to support his evil agenda of world dominance.
Have you heard that one?
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 10, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Let’s look at Ayer’s positive contributions
It was Bill Ayers who first got chocolate on my peanut butter!
He put 8 great tomatoes in that itty bitty can.
He wrote the book of love!
He put the bop, in the bop she bop she bop, he put the ram in the ram a lama ding dong.
By "The Corporal"
October 10, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Jay
And while you’re at it check out the Washington Times today and Seditiongate.
Negotiating with a foreign government during a time of war in an attempt to thwart the Constitutional duties of the executive branch is dispicable and in my opinion seditious.
By Paul
October 10, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Jay
If I may modify my 9:18 - I’ll retract my “ridiculing the messenger” comment and say you were wearily having a bit of fun with the topic.
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Jay make, how you say, the funny, too!
I know we should be focusing on the horrendous economic news. And heck, we should try to think about the long game, wherein we extend a hand of friendship to the exploited, wayward Americans who’ve fallen prey to extremist Republican ideology.
But for now, it’s just too much fun to mock and bait these sad, dwindling band of McCain supporters, isn’t it?
By jane
October 10, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
You poor fool…
By BDAtlanta
October 10, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Jeez, some readers are doing their own research into the Ayers thing? Don’t you think maybe, just maybe, that if there was something there that it would have been uncovered during the past two years of campaigning?
Did Repub operatives just wake up this Monday and decide “Oh, Ayers…maybe we should look into that…”?
There is no “there” there. But if you are that freaked out and can’t find something better to do with your time to help MCcain win the election then, by all means, have at it.
Obama is going to walk away with this thing unless Republicans commit voter fraud (which is very likely considering their history.)
By T
October 10, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
By TN Gelding
October 10, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
To me, and I suspect most of us, all this Ayers stuff is irrelevant. It seemed to be working a little bit tho until McCain had to take the stage in the last debate. I’m amazed the way the zealots have embraced it and Palin. Don’t they see how ridiculous they look to anyone with the slightest bit of insight?
By BOO
October 10, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Be Scared, lrd. Yes, HE taught your teacher who taught you and now all that is left is for you to be activated by the use of that special code word. Be Scared. Really scared.
By ByteMe
October 10, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Some people love a good conspiracy theory.
Another one on Jay’s list: Obama called all the Jews that worked in the WTC towers on 9/10 and told them not to go to work the next day. He was tipped off to the plot by Ayers.
Heh.
The Obama-Ayers book thing is being picked up by people who really don’t understand what they’re reading and are accepting at as gospel just because they really want something to be wrong with Obama that’s as petty as they are.
I actually spent a little time reading through the article and investigating the “evidence” in Cahill’s arguments and had a good laugh as I realized how much of it was just junk thrown at a wall to see what would stick. Things he asserts as facts in there — if you do a little research — don’t stand up to scrutiny.
It’s all just a distraction pushed by Republican weasels who are seeing their party crumble around them.
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 10, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
CORPORAL
Perhaps the Times should have interviewed Republican Chuck Hagel…
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
The seagulls fly at five thirty.
Repeat: The seagulls fly at five thirty.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
TN Gelding,
“Don’t they see how ridiculous they look to anyone with the slightest bit of insight?”
AHHHHHHHH, there in lies the problem.
By T
October 10, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
No one look at their 401k.
By Vulcan
October 10, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
“And if you never hear from me again, you’ll know why.”
I’m now Ayers biggest fan.
By BOO
October 10, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
The…..sea…..gulls……fly…….must…….open…….secret…….vault….
By getalife
October 10, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
She is busted on troopergate but there is no accountability in this country. They should open up the prisons. Justice and liberty for all has fallen like capitalism.
Markets are crashing but at least oil is dropping.
Short trading is back so that should help.
By N-GA
October 10, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Jay doesn’t need to ridicule the messenger. For the most part they bring ridicule upon themselves. I’ll provide the rest.
This is the same type of pathetic creature who thinks that McCain fathered a black child.
This is the same kind of brain-dead denier of science that thinks the world was created less than 6,000 years ago.
This is the same type of self-rightious hypocrite that thinks that only saved Christians are going to be saved.
The list is almost endless. And they give me pause to consider that their insidious lies should suffice for taking away their voter registration card.
By Taxpayer
October 10, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
The loyal Republican base is pressuring McCain to get more aggressive with Obama. At their rallies, they are even offering up handguns and hand grenades to McCain and Palin from their own private stashes.
By getalife
October 10, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
At least, they stopped blaming President Clinton.
By David
October 10, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
BDAtlanta,
I had this discussion with a friend about Obama stickers, signs, etc. I’ve been accustomed in the past two elections to nutcases tailgating, giving the finger, one old guy in a truck looking like he was having a stroke while he was yelling and cussing through the window, all because I had the Democratic sticker on my car.
Allowing yourself to be influenced into hiding or inaction by all these actions is the real danger.
It is a constant reminder of the “First they came…” poem by Pastor Martin Niemöller about the German people’s inaction as the Nazis gained power.
“First they came for the Communists, - but I was not a communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, - but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, - but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”
By Taxpayer
October 10, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Bush did want his place in the history books. I’d say he’s got a real good chance at getting it now. Poor old John. He so wanted to be the one in the White House but Bush robbed him of that chance.
By E
October 10, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Jay - too, too funny!
But haven’t you heard? The McCain campaign did its own investigation into all charges against Palin and the First Dude and found that they are absolutely innocent of any wrong doing!
I’ll bet this is why the McCain campaign is failing so miserably… they’ve been busy doing a statewide investigation!
After all, they are a justice oriented bunch. Ha!
Obama/Biden ‘08
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
I guarantee you none of the resident righties have the balls to read this piece, that investigates just how much contact Obama had with Ayers back in the day.
Nor will they accept the words of a Republican former representative. So I will paste them here. Have at it, righties.
#It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier,” said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. “It’s ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly.”
Nelson says her fellow Republicans “might snort when they hear the name Bill Ayers, because they know he comes from a wealthy family, they know he became a radical activist early in his life … but beyond just snorting, I don’t think anyone gives it another thought.”
“I don’t remember ever hearing anyone raise concerns or questions or concerns about [Ayers’] background,” says Anne Hallett, who has worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge grant and with Obama on education and other community and legislative matters. “And that included everybody I was engaged with,” including prominent Republicans, and corporate and civic leaders in Chicago, Hallett adds.
Hallett calls this attack on Obama’s association with Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge by further association, “a smear campaign. It’s a political diatribe that has no basis in fact. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was an extremely positive initiative. It was well-vetted, thorough, and the fact that it is now is being used for political purposes is, in my opinion, outrageous.”
By lrd
October 10, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Seagulls have flown Vault is open The beast walks at noon
By Ray
October 10, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
OK, Bookman, now to something serious. ACORN…. you still ignore this issue and dance around this subject. Make yourself look credible and address this issue. Do it sometime before Nov 4th. Does it scare you or would your keepers object to some objectivity in reporting some of the real issues in this campaign? You glorify sending hundreds of sharks to Wasilla to turn over every rock they can find but you continue to ignore some of the main events that run the Annointed One’s campaign train. Luko drives cars over cliffs, Tucker objects to praying for our future and you are just lost in some kind of liberal fog that ignores basic problems with this clown. And you call that credible journalism. What a joke!!
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
dammit Ird, now I gotta kill you.
By Danny the red
October 10, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Says an attendee at a McCain rally of Obama’s rise:
““Why is Obama where he’s at? Everyone in this room is stunned.”
Welcome to what liberals have been feeling for eight years, buddy!
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Ray,
That might be news if we hadn’t heard similar accusations before in every damn election I can remember. It’s old news.
Yawn.
I think last election is was all the illegal immigrants who were registering to vote.
By Mr Snarky
October 10, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Jay, you forgot the biggest one of all! Obama is actually an immortal who regularly engages in Swordfights with other immortals in a massive tournament to determine who is “the one”. They call him the SouthSider.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
hillbilly ragger and ird,
What the hell are y’all talking about?
:-)
By BDAtlanta
October 10, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
David at 10:09,
Good point.
By Greg Mendel
October 10, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Is Bill Ayers on the Terrorist Watch List? Anybody know? Or is he only on McCain’s “grasping for straws” list?
Financial markets around the world are dropping like rocks, and a failed hippie is the hysteria du jour.
To paraphrase Bob Dylan, you don’t need a weatherman to know which party blew it.
By Taxpayer
October 10, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
I have yet to see any Republicans explain exactly what it is that the Republican party has delivered unto them over the last 8+ years that they want more of. Is it more trickle down economics. Is it more of that small government philosophy. Is it more wars. Is it a need to cut capital gains taxes more. Is it more deregulation. What. What is it.
By Taxpayer
October 10, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
I may have contributed with my teasing as “BOO”. The devil made me do it.
By Mr Snarky
October 10, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Oh yeah…and Bill Ayers (also known as “He who shall not be named”) is actually behind the whole Global Warming propaganda scheme. Isn’t it so obvious when you think about it?
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Danny @ 10.32, to be fair, I’m pretty sure Bush was NEVER where Obama is in the national tracking polls or in the statewide polls. Certainly not in 2004.
Ray @ 10.21, you seem very concerned about this ACORN “voter fraud” business. Tell me, out of all the isolated examples of phony names getting into the registration rolls, can you show me any examples of where these phony people actually voted, anywhere?
I’m sure you’ve got something. After all, the Bush Justice Dept. spent millions investigating this stuff for a half-dozen years.
Got anything, Ray?
By Ray
October 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
If ACORN was a far right leaning organization out.registering all of the drunks on the street and pulling names off tombstones, there would not be enough room on this blog for all of the blather that Bookman would post, especially if it’s headquarters was in Wasilla. Don’t you see the point? I know it happens every election but your ignoring it and making it seem common says a lot about your integrity and what you stand for. We know what Bookman stands for but I hope he hasn’t pulled all of you to the dark side yet. It’s called credibility and honesty, something that Bookman has a lot of trouble understanding.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Ray,
I’ll let hillbilly’s comments speak for me as well.
I see the point, but you speak in hypotheticals, much like the other blabber about voter fraud. The GOP has been screaming voter fraud this and that for years.
It’s a boo scare tactic of the desperate right-wing.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Ray,
I’ll also add that the feds are investigating this, and if something is legit, I’m sure we’ll all hear about it.
But from what I’ve read regarding the “scandal” it’s pretty minor stuff.
By getalife
October 10, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
All about Acorn today.
Our wingnuts are squirrels.
Voter caging and purging will offset.
Give it a rest.
By N-GA
October 10, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Let me be the first to start the “unconfirmed” rumor that ACORN is infested with ex-Swift Boaters trying to undermine legitimate efforts to register Americans to vote!
By Mr Snarky
October 10, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Bill Ayers is also the puppet master behind ACORN. It’s all unraveling!
By Danny the red
October 10, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Hillbilly,
You mean Bush was never in as commanding a position as Obama now is?
That’s true, but I don’t trust these numbers too much right now. They can still fluctuate, esp. after they start hurling everything else they’ve got (e.g., Wright). Plus, you’ve got the Bradley effect, which I expect to shave off 2-4 pts. at least (I agree w/Herbert of NY Times on that one).
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
Ray,
Here’s a good article if you’re brave enough to read it:
ACORN rallies its troops
Not trying to be all testosteron-y - that’s not my style, but it does explain alot.
One thing that stands out that I didn’t know is that in many states, the ACORN workers are required by law to turn in all voter registration forms, even the ones they know to be fraudulent.
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Ray @ 10.44, I’m trying hard to empathize, really I am. If I knew of a right wing organization that had done, routinely, what you accuse ACORN of doing (and I think that’s unfair—ACORN performs a very valuable service and has for 38 years, but I’ll use your hypothetical) I would at first be outraged. Then I’d learn something about the right wing organization. I wouldn’t rely soley on left-wing echo chamber info; I’d read up-the-middle news accounts, and some RW defenders, and I’d certainly pay a visit to the organization’s site to get a feel for how they present themselves to the world.
I’d consider how important a threat to the process this really was. Is it trivial? I make a few snarky comments, maybe, accusing Rwers of hypocrisy. But I’d drop it. Is it major? Then I harrass columnists like Wooten to own up to the problem. I write to my congressman, I bring it up in conversation in real life with real people. That kind of stuff.
Point is, I’d have some idea of where this is going. I don’t think you do. I don’t think you’ve really thought through what these scattershot allegations of “voter fraud” (really registration fraud, a very different thing) amount to. If you cry “wolf” every time some trivial matter comes up it’s kind of hard for those hearing the cry to get real worked up about it.
(Just something to chew on. Sorry I’m rambling like this.)
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
N-GA,
You make a good point - those “organizers” turning in those fraudulent voter forms could just as easily be wingnuts doing that on purpose to throw suspicion onto ACORN - especially since many of the states that ACORN operates in REQUIRE ALL voters registration forms to be turned in - even the problematic ones.
OOOOHHHHH, that’s brilliant, if true.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Danny the Red,
I had a thought about the Bradley Effect - what if the opposite is true. What if many people - especially here in Georgia - say they are going to vote for McCain and instead vote for Obama.
Think of all the quite little housewives who live with big Bubba boy husbands - do you think they’d admit to them they like Obama?
It could actually go both ways.
By ByteMe
October 10, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Bosch and Ray: Yeah, like leftwing nuts really know the names of all the Dallas Cowboys players.
Ok, that was obscure, even for me.
By getalife
October 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
“According to a new report, thanks to the Patriot Act, the government has been listening into phone calls from troops in the middle east, and passing clips of them around the office.”
Support the troops by passing around clips of them having phone.
Sick gop perverts
By Kriddl
October 10, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Thank you for your enlightning blog. But I miss on more evidence: Ayers has first to bring Elvis out of line, because Elvis would be a more capable challenge for run to the presidentship. So Ayers has to bring first the King to Roswell.
By BDAtlanta
October 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Good article:
“John has made a pact with the devil,” says Lincoln Chafee, the former GOP senator, who has been appalled at his one-time colleague’s readiness to sacrifice principle for power. Chafee and McCain were the only Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts. They locked arms in opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. And they worked together in the “Gang of 14,” which blocked some of Bush’s worst judges from the federal bench.
**"On all three - sadly, sadly, sadly - McCain has flip-flopped," Chafee says. And forget all the "Country First" sloganeering, he adds. "McCain is putting himself first. He's putting himself first in blinking neon lights."**http://www.truthout.org/100508A
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
ByteMe,
The only one I know is Tony Romo because my son told me about him the other day. I’m clueless about football (the American kind, that is).
OH, and speaking of soccer, and since we are discussing conspiracy theories and baseless accusations:
I have also heard that if Obama is elected, football, basketball, and baseball will all become banned, and SOCCER will become the national sport.
How’d ya’ like that, huh?
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
I don’t think some of you all get it. I cannot speak for all an I am only speaking for myself, because I have seen the stupidity posted by both conservatives and liberals. There is not any concern on my behalf about Bill Ayers. He is a guy that I find to be rather shady and morally lacking. Bill ayer is not the issue with me. I do think that if a person wants to be president they are judged by the company they keep and then the reaction they give for hanging with them, or being associated with them. The issue of Ayers by itself are a non-issue. When you combine that however with other associates of his and the intentionally misleading and outright untruthful responses he gave as to his affiliation with some of these people it is a concern.
Obama has only had a political career for about 13-14 years. In that time he has managed to either work with or list as an advisor some very controversial, at best, individuals. There is not any proof of actual collaboration between the parties for teh most part, it is teh association that is unnerving.
Am I the only person that feels it is not the individuals tehmselves, it is a pattern of surrounding himself and establishing a consistant issue of radicalism. That to me goes to make a statement of judgment and how he would react in undefined situations. More importantly, who from his history are the likely candidates Obama would ask to help solve the undisclosed future problems of the nation.
Remember- During the Bush Gore election, Katrina was not a topic, 9/11 not a huge concern, no war in Iraq, and no economic crisis.
What are going to be the unknowns and has Obama always been truthful and forthcoming about his past associates and mentors?
I feel he has not.
By Jane
October 10, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
The protesting from the liberals about Ayers is funny, in a way. I’m surprised they haven’t already made a saint out of this terrorist in their headlong efforts to help Obama.
By AmVet
October 10, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
I always suspected my fascination with the second gunman on the grassy knoll was misdirected and part of the great left wing conspiracy contrived by the liberal mainstream media!
Now I realize it was actually the man with the umbrella!
And further research has corroborated that he shot from Ayers Street while disguised as a large acorn. He reportedly said on his death bed that “we had to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here.”
By E
October 10, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
McCain touts Palin as the “energy expert”.
Hmmmm.
At a townhall event in Wisconsin on Thursday, Palin was asked by a concerned questioner whether it was true that the United States was shipping 75 percent of its Alaskan oil overseas. She responded by proclaiming it impossible, since Congress had put strict bans on the amount of oil and gas that America could export.
Not so. As the Associated Press reported:
No Alaska oil has been exported since 2004, and little if any since 2000, according to the Energy Information Administration and the Congressional Research Service. And Congress has never imposed outright bans on oil exports. Congress prohibited exports of Alaska oil in 1973 when the Alaska oil pipeline was built. But that ban was lifted in 1996 when there were large volumes of Alaska oil coming down from the North Slope and U.S. demand was soft.
The Alaska ban has never been reinstated.
Now what’s that again, McCain? You say Palin’s the “energy expert”?
Obama/Biden ‘08
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
tcoach,
Just so you know, I am not one bit inclined to read any post that starts off with “I don’t think some of you all get it.”
It’s an insult to my intelligence for whatever that’s worth, and such arrogance for one’s opinion as being the end all really bugs the sh!t out of me.
I get alot of things - except taxes, I don’t get taxes except I have to pay them.
By demwit
October 10, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
In hopes of gaining progressive support, perhaps I will try domestic terrorism. And hey!! Just image all the international support I could get by default too..
By AmVet
October 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Today is a good day for a little levity, so here goes:
Vote Republican - Its the White Thing To Do
In clinical studies, the most common side effects of voting Republican (reported in at least 10 percent of patients and at least twice as often as with placebo) were constipation, dizziness, dry mouth, insomnia, loss of appetite, nausea, nervousness, sexual side effects, sleepiness, sweating, and weakness.
Republicans: We’re so pro-family, we think everyone should have at least 2!
Republicans - Between Iraq and a hard place
Vote Republican: Keep FEAR Alive!
Republicans - Adultery with Dignity
Republicans - 1000 Points of Spite
Republicans - Moraler Than Thou!
Neo-Cons- We isn’t as Stupid as You Think
By Chris Salzmann
October 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
An interesting letter to the Times: The lead prosecutor on the Ayers case, William Ibershof, doesn’t buy the current McCain attacks.
“I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.
Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.
I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director. “
ADDING TO THIS: Who funded the School Project Board that Ayers and Obama shared a seat on? The Annenberg Family of Chicago who have endorsed and contributed to the max to the McCain Campaign. So, using the McCain/Palin logic, is McCain taking money from “Terrorist sympathizers”???
Of course, to expect logic in this argument is a stretch.
By ByteMe
October 10, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Bosch: Obama likes basketball, so that’s likely not to get banned.
Jane: who says “liberals” are protesting anything other than rampant “straw-grasping” on the part of the rightwingnuts?
tcoach: was Bush’s drug dealer an issue for you in 2000? It’s well-known that Bush was drunk or stoned for much of his 20’s. Did his “associations” with drug dealers bother you or is this only a recent thing? Couldn’t drug pushers be considered “domestic terrorists” for all the harm they do to society?
It’s all a distraction. He surrounds himself with smart people like Warren Buffett. McCain surrounds himself with lobbyists. What is really the bigger danger here and what is really just a distraction?
By Lostie
October 10, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
I don’t agree with what you say in the article, but your reference to the Dharma Initiative got me laughing. :)
By Ryan
October 10, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
I have to say I throughly enjoyed this article! The satrical humour was great and honetly I could actually see this coming out of McCain’s or Palin’s mouth.
For those of you who are on about Bill Ayers I encourage you to throughly research him. The man made some very bad choices and he is a little nuts but can anyone in here honestly say they do not have a friend or family member who is a black sheep.
For the love of god they worked together on a charity board, unlike McCain who served on the U.S. Council for World Freedom. Research it please, linked to Nazi collaberators and responsbile for more civil disturbance than Bush.
Ayers was active in the 60’s Obama was 8. To assume he is a terrorist is shear ignorace. This new tactic was also one that McCain detested and said would not be used.
McCain makes rash decsions and I am sorry I am a registered republican but the party has gone dumb this year and I will not support an angry, tempermental old fool who young power hungry second has been the governor of a state with the smallest population and requests more earmarks per capita than ANY other state. Thats how we control spending no?
By Abomi Nation
October 10, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
This whole Ayers thing dates back to the Clinton years. Ayers had great influence on the White House and became good friends with Hillary. Why? Ayers knew Hillary’s secret.
As you may know Hillary is responsible for the murders of as of many as 47 people. Hillary couldn’t have killed that many people without the help of a black man. That black man would turn out to be Mr Ayers himself.
James McDougal, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and 44 others were murdered by Hillary and Ayers.
Why were these people, all friends of Hillary killed? They knew Hillary’s secret too.
Hillary of course has strong ties to Chicago. She also had a 11 year affair with a young Chicago Democrat named Barack Obama.
Barack and Hillary persuaded Barack’s good freind Ayers to help out. The tragic ending of 47 young lives was next. They were sacrificed. All silenced to keep the secret and her future as President of the USA safe. Hillary had no choice but to eliminate her friends that knew here secret.
Hillary promised Barack a prominent place in her cabinet, but Obama got greedy, he wanted it all. After a deep depression following their ugly breakup Obama decided to get even, he would steal the election from Hillary and himself become President.
The icy relationship that currently exists between Obama and Hillary is not from a bruising election campaign. It exists because of a bad breakup and the strain of a big big secret, murder.
This is going to be huge people. I think this could be the October surprise. Now you know why Hillary had her friends murdered. Wow.
By mike hussein smith
October 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Jay, you failed to mention the worst Obama secret: Most people don’t know this, but Obama actually sounds like Tiny Tim when he speaks. James Earl Jones makes recordings of speeches, and Obama lip syncs to them when he goes before the public. How else could a literary idiot savant with a law degree from Harvard speak in perfect English and complete sentences?
Wow, bush might as well have quoted Mel Brooks: High Anxiety — whenever you’re near, High Anxiety — it’s you that I fear. My heart’s afraid to fly, it’s crashed before. But then you take my hand, and my heart starts to soar Once more…
By GayGrayGeek
October 10, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
jane @ 11:27 - Suffer from projection much, dear? The only folks “protesting” Ayers in these or any precincts are wingnuts and paleocons who all seem to be trying to win a hobbyhorse race from Atlanta to Macon.
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Bosch note the use of teh word some that is a word used to indicate less than a majority. Sorry if you did not like the message and attack me becaue it goes against your political views. What would lead you to the inclination that I have nor will I ever care what bugs you. Ihave read your hate filled musings and how you continually discredit anoyones post if it does not agree with you and then you attack them on a personal basis, never taking the time or teh effort to understand their point of view much less discredit it or even debate it. So I could care less if you are mad, if you are tough I hope I ruin your day as you have ruined the days of many others on this blog.
Read what is written and gain a grasp of teh english language and a recognition for the word some. So attack me if you want, could care less but you cannot atack my post it is a matter of public record. Get over yourself, you nor your opinions are all that smart.
By Peadawg
October 10, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
To all you Libs who defend Ayers and Obama, how about Rev. Wright? Try and defend him…you’re just as un-patriotic and racist as Rev. Wright is if you defend him.
By Chris Salzmann
October 10, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Abomi Nation wrote: Hillary promised Barack a prominent place in her cabinet, but Obama got greedy, he wanted it all. After a deep depression following their ugly breakup Obama decided to get even, he would steal the election from Hillary and himself become President.
The icy relationship that currently exists between Obama and Hillary is not from a bruising election campaign. It exists because of a bad breakup and the strain of a big big secret, murder.
This is going to be huge people. I think this could be the October surprise. Now you know why Hillary had her friends murdered. Wow.
CHRIS: DUDE, GET ON PROZAC. I SUPPORTED OBAMA OVER HILLARY BUT THIS CRAP ABOUT HILLARY IS….WELL, CRAP. YEAH, IF YOU BELIEVE THIS CRAP THEN YOU REALLY, REALLY NEED HELP. SERIOUSLY.
By Chris Salzmann
October 10, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
An interesting letter to the Times: The lead prosecutor on the Ayers case, William Ibershof, doesn’t buy the current McCain attacks.
“I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.
Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.
I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director. “
ADDING TO THIS: Who funded the School Project Board that Ayers and Obama shared a seat on? The Annenberg Family of Chicago who have endorsed and contributed to the max to the McCain Campaign. So, using the McCain/Palin logic, is McCain taking money from “Terrorist sympathizers”???
Of course, to expect logic in this argument is a stretch.
By Say What?
October 10, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
I have reduced the upcoming election to the following formula:
Bush = Our Economy
Bush = McCain
Therefore,
McCain = Our Economy
Game, set, match to Obama. By double fault.
By mike hussein smith
October 10, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Nobama Nobraina writes: There is no doubt that obummer and ayers have been close for years Well, show me the damn money. Wingnuts obviously think that repetition of a lie makes it truth regardless of the lack of any evidence whatsoever. I want to see dated photos of the pair — one taken Monday, one taken the next day and one taken the next day — for at least 2 weeks before I will bow to the stupidity of the Wrong Wing. I repeat, SHOW ME THE DAMN MONEY!!!!!!
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Sorry Byteme, Bush’s drug dealers bother me no more than the ones Obama was buying his supply through.
But to answer your question respectufully, No Bush’s drug dealers nor Obama’s bother me alone and by themselves. If either was also working on committee and appointing one as an advisor then that would begin to display a pattern of behavior and choices. Then that pattern of choices and selection of associates would be troubling.
2 things to add to that.
Voted for Gore in 2000(I was 19 and liked clinton alot, didn’t inform myself very well)
I was totally unaware that Bush was running for office again, that is a shock. ( I know Cindy Mccain had a drug issue as well, but Michelle Obama had a white people issue so I don’t think either is worth discussing about their wives)
I hope I answer that to your liking and tried to keep it free from partisan opinion.
By Chris Salzmann
October 10, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
By Peadawg: To all you Libs who defend Ayers and Obama, how about Rev. Wright? Try and defend him…you’re just as un-patriotic and racist as Rev. Wright is if you defend him.
CHRIS: MCCAIN HAS GONE OUT AND SOUGHT ENDORSEMENTS FROM THE VERY FOLKS HE USED TO CALL “THE AGENTS OF INTOLERANCE”. YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF FOLKS WHO SAID THINGS LIKE THAT AMERICA DESERVED 9/11 FOR ITS SINS, GAYS/LESBIANS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11, JEWS ARE BAD, ETC, ETC, ETC. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT MCCAIN?
THAT SAID, I DON’T JUDGE MCCAIN ON THIS BUT ON HOW HOW BELIEVE HE WILL LEAD THIS COUNTRY. HIS REACTION TO THIS FINANCIAL DEBACLE HAS NOT BEEN PRETTY AND HAS CERTAINLY NOT HELPED HIS CAUSE.
By Chris Salzmann
October 10, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
By Peadawg: To all you Libs who defend Ayers and Obama, how about Rev. Wright? Try and defend him…you’re just as un-patriotic and racist as Rev. Wright is if you defend him.
CHRIS: MCCAIN HAS GONE OUT AND SOUGHT ENDORSEMENTS FROM THE VERY FOLKS HE USED TO CALL “THE AGENTS OF INTOLERANCE”. YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF FOLKS WHO SAID THINGS LIKE THAT AMERICA DESERVED 9/11 FOR ITS SINS, GAYS/LESBIANS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11, JEWS ARE BAD, ETC, ETC, ETC. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT MCCAIN?
THAT SAID, I DON’T JUDGE MCCAIN ON THIS BUT ON HOW HOW BELIEVE HE WILL LEAD THIS COUNTRY. HIS REACTION TO THIS FINANCIAL DEBACLE HAS NOT BEEN PRETTY AND HAS CERTAINLY NOT HELPED HIS CAUSE.
By GMAN
October 10, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Damn! I can’t hear a think for all that whining coming from John “Mr. Magoo” McCain, Sarah “Elly Mae” Palin, and the rest of the wingnuts. Here’s a pack of rice crackers and a round of brie to go with that whine!
Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s future… and losing!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
By hey douchebag October 10, 2008 8:13 AM to AJC/DNC and demagogues of talk radio and Fox News: it is pathetic, but not the least bit surprising, that you have been reduced to one last blast of scary Barack Hussein Obama / Bill Ayers talk. don’t you have anything better than that?
douchebag: Why, yes, in fact I do, thanks for asking:
At the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in private conversations that the president shouldn’t be allowed to enact the deal without congressional approval.-Washington Times
By ByteMe
October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
tcoach: please provide citations about Obama’s issue with “white people”. I already know about Cindy’s pill issue, and don’t care about that either, since she’s not running for office.
You already knew Bush isn’t running, just wanted to see how far your “outrage” extended when it came to Republicans.
And you need to explain why any of this matters and where Wikipedia got it wrong when it says:
Bill Ayers and Barack Obama at one time lived in the same neighborhood in the city of Chicago, and both had worked on education reform in the state of Illinois. The two met “at a luncheon meeting about school reform.”[41] Obama was named to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Project Board of Directors to oversee the distribution of grants in Chicago. Later in 1995, Ayers hosted “a coffee” for “Mr. Obama’s first run for office.”[42] The two served on the board of a community anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 2000 and 2002, during which time the board met twelve times.[42] In April 2001, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama’s re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate.[41] Since 2002, there has been little linking Obama and Ayers.[42]
How exactly does this “association” that you’re claiming look like anything other than smoke being blown at you by your friends the Republicans?
By mike hussein smith
October 10, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Peadawg: The Rev. Wright thing just doesn’t work any more. That Alaskan nitwit (no, not sarah — but one of her pals) who headed the independence party disavowed his U.S. citizenship and said he hates “that damn flag” of ours. He said he wanted to be buried in Alaska, but not in America. And that nitwit preacher the Palins like so much thinks it’s cute to persecute people for witchcraft and force them to uproot their lives on a whim. That doesn’t sound like a GOP virtue, but these days it might be.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
No, you have never read a hate filled musing from me. Nice try, but you are mistaken.
Since you are new to this blog (unless you are someone like RB who just changed their name) - I’ll cut you some slack - but if you’ll research a little, you’ll find no hate-filled rants from me. Well, I did call Dusty retarded the other day, but that’s between her and I.
You attack liberals by implying that we just don’t get things, and then are aghast when someone points it out?
And another tip, you might want to spell check first before you insult someone’s command of the English language.
Just a clue there.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 10, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
Right on cue, the Repug attack machine trots out Louis Farrakhan, hahaha, now that was truly racist.
How low will we go?
By hcoop
October 10, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
So, so, entertaining! Thanks, Jay, and the other intelligent responders for such insightful contributions. My hunch that there are portions of our population that actually can see through the vapidity and outrageous rhetoric from desperate, losing candidates is restored! And to think that we have 26 more days to watch this GOP downfall, right before our eyes….
I’m getting up. Anyone need more popcorn?
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Peadawg asks: “To all you Libs who defend Ayers and Obama, how about Rev. Wright? Try and defend him…”
I could, but I don’t think I could put it any better than that crazy left-wing moonbat Mike Huckabee already has.
Seriously, Peadawg, that tune’s been played. You got all the mileage out of one isolated sermon clip that you’re gonna get. Keep bringing it up and I’ll gladly chat up all the good things Trinity UCC’s done for the community, and what a bright guy the new pastor seems to be. You really want that?
By Ed
October 10, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Hey Idiot, she was just cleared. Why is that Fox seems to be the OBLY news souce that doesn’t smell like fecal matter because they don’t have their heads up their butts. Go take a shower Bookman, the stench is overwhelming. Again, PALIN HAS JUST BEEN CLEARED. READ IT ON FOX FIRST, AS YOU SURE AS HELL WON’T READ IT BY THIS HACK WRITER.
By RW-(the original)
October 10, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Since there is nothing to the Obama/Ayers connection would somebody explain why Obama keeps changing his story?
First Ayers was just some guy in his neighborhood. When he got pressed he allowed that they had also served a A board together. When it turned out to be TWO boards and a much closer working relationship the story became that he didn’t know about Ayers past. Now that the usual excuse of that’s not the Bill Ayers I knew excuse isn’t flying the story today has become that he thought Ayers was rehabilitated.
Check out how rehabilitated Ayers and Dohrn were in 1998
Maybe this is why Barry is buying half hour blocks of network time. It’ll be like a comedy version of Heroes where he keeps going back in time to change his future story lines.
By TN Gelding
October 10, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Bosch
October 10, 2008 11:35 AM
I’m getting your taxes (SS/Medicare), thanks! To be honest tho, I liked it better when I was paying them.
By mike hussein smith
October 10, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
OMG, Management, you mean Obama wanted to follow the law and have Congress approve an international treaty? How lawyerly of him. I’d rather go his route than allow GWB to give away the store again to keep his war going.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Ed,
His campaign put out a memo saying she’d done nothing wrong BEFORE the report came out. I think they did that yesterday.
Let’s wait for the actual report, K?
By hillbilly ragger
October 10, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Oh, that youtube link I provided @ 12.29 is rather long. Skip to 3.30; Huckabee has some very thoughtful things to say about Obama, and then to Peadawg’s point, pastors (on the left and right) who get quoted way out of context. The money quote about Wright is at the 6.00 mark.
I remember hearing this back in March. I’ve had a whole lot more respect for Huckabee since hearing that; why McCain didn’t go with this guy as his Veep, I really don’t get. I disagree with Huckabee on just about everything, but I believe he loves this country and its citizens with all his heart. I wish I could say the same of Palin.
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Byteme please read my earlier post. I do not have an issue with Ayers. The association by itself is a nonissue. However Obama’s changing explanations for ALL of his controversial aquaintinces. I would never use something like wiki. either, you can add stuff to it as a user, very unreliable.
I thought I explained that I was concerned but where is your outrage for Obama’s drug dealers, he smoked weed and snorted cocaine too ya know. I think you may have me confused with another poster as well. You say my republican friends, you did read who I voted for in 2000, you don’t know who I voted for in 2004 so you assume because I am not an Obama supporter that I must be republican.
Are you going to dispute the comment from M. Obama’s senior thesis, I am paraphrasing, she said she would from this day forth work for if nothing else teh betterment of the black people. But again I say that is a non-issue.
So I ask you were is your rage for Obama’s drug dealer, and all other shady associates.
His associations, not just with Ayers, are important and read my earlier post @11:25. Please read it as if you did not know who had posted it with no preconcieved ideas. You will see I answered many of your questions there as well.
Why attack me as if I am trying to do somethng corrupt, I just disagree with you on Obama’s past asscociations. The earlier post will also clear up why I think this is important.
By GayGrayGeek
October 10, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
If Faux News is claiming Palin was “cleared”, you can bet your bottom dollar that this means the report is d@mning as all get-out. Remember, according to Faux News water is dry, fire is cold, and the sky is dark green.
Of course, that’s only if you still have a dollar left, now that the Republican’ts have completely destroyed the U.S. financial system…
By ByteMe
October 10, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Ed: Have you stopped to consider why FOX is the only channel reporting it? What are you missing here?
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
TN Gelding,
That’s okay by me! I’m sure you deserve it!
By Chris Salzmann
October 10, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Ed wrote: October 10, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this Hey Idiot, she was just cleared. Why is that Fox seems to be the OBLY news souce that doesn’t smell like fecal matter because they don’t have their heads up their butts. Go take a shower Bookman, the stench is overwhelming. Again, PALIN HAS JUST BEEN CLEARED. READ IT ON FOX FIRST, AS YOU SURE AS HELL WON’T READ IT BY THIS HACK WRITER.
CHRIS WRITES: SHE HAD A CONCURRENT “INVESTIGATION” RUNNING ON “HERSELF” BY HER CAMPAIGN. WAS THE OUTCOME OF THIS “INVESTIGATION” IN ANY DOUBT??? HERE’S THE HEADLINE FOR HER OWN INVESTIGATION:
Palin pre-empts state report, clears self; Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing.
THE INVESTIGATION BY THE LEGISLATORS THAT PALIN AGREED TO BEFORE SHE GOT NOMINATED, CHAIRED BY 4 DEMOCRATS AND 10 REPUBLICANS HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED AND IS BEING REVIEWED RIGHT NOW.
SO ED, WHO’S THE HACK WRITER IS HERE???
HINT HINT: TRY LOOKING IN THE MIRROR! ROFLMAO
By hotlanta
October 10, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
I wanna talk about the real American Gangsters the men of AIG and Lehman Brothers. Let McCain discuss the Keating 5.
By hotlanta
October 10, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
I wanna talk about the real American Gangsters the men of AIG and Lehman Brothers. Let McCain discuss the Keating 5.
By GMAN
October 10, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
“McCain-Palin campaign says former Alaska opponent, Andrew Halcro, conspired with public safety commissioner to pin trooper’s dismissal on family dispute”
It’s a conspiracy I tell ya, a conspiracy! Elly Mae had nothing to do with any of this!
Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s futures… and losing!
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
ByteMe,
It’s a pre-emptive statement put out by the McCain camp.
By ESR
October 10, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
All the drains on society in the projects support Obama. Their years of horrible lifestyle choices, drugs and 9 kids without a spouse keep them in the projects and I want to elect the same men these losers support. I have no idea why gays and leftist libs support him maybe it’s a mandingo size thing. Size queens? I don’t think Obama is packing that much, sorry gayboys.
By ByteMe
October 10, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
tcoach: I have no outrage. Seriously. I’m more amused by all of this than anything. Horrified by the thugs yelling stuff out at McCain/Palin rallies (and now that just happened at Chambliss/Martin debate in middle GA). But not outraged. Not yet.
I don’t think Obama’s past associations amount to a hill of snot. I don’t think McCain’s (re: Keating 5) do either. And I certainly don’t think Michelle O. saying she wants to work for the advancement of people of her race has anything to do with hating white people. I think all that you bring up are distractions to be ignored.
“It’s the Economy, Stupid” rings true this year. I’m more worried that we’re heading into a deep recession the likes we haven’t seen in 30 years and that will affect ALL of us. And I want the smartest people to win this year, so that we can get this problem solved quickly.
By Shawny
October 10, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
This is about the most dumb-arse post yet, bookman. First of all, if anyone is fixated on troopergate, they don’t have anything else to be concerned about. Like a fat lady worrying if she gained or lost 1 pound, or the tight arse trying to get an extra $5 off a Lexus.
non issue. irrelevant. I would love Palin to get air time and say, “I fired him…what of it? So.” nuff said
By ByteMe
October 10, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Bosch: I knew that. Was put out late last night, I think, so I saw it this morning. I just wanted to see if “Ed’s” head could get removed from his umm “vortex” to do some fact checking.
By Call it Like it is
October 10, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
Amen Coach.
Notice the debates had no questions in reference to Abortion, Gun Control, or Immigration?
Hum, wonder why?
Biased media at work again.
Look, this is simple, the Dems are the reason that we have the problems with this mortgage deal and Wall Street.
Just go back to the Clinton years to where everyone had the right to own a home BS, and this points right back to the Democratic Party. Campagin Kick-backs, bonuses, and the like were all part of this deal.
By the way, there are $5M home loans that were given to illegals!
How in the hell did this happen?
Right back to the Dems and the Clinton years that is how.
Therefore, to say no to the last 8 years, makes no sense! Look back to the Genesis of the problem and stop blaming BUSH!
AJC
Do some fact finding and report the truth about Obama rather than bashing McCain.
Enough Said!
By TN Gelding
October 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Peadawg
October 10, 2008 11:56 AM
I’ll defend Rev Wright. America has sinned and is just as likely to be damned by God as blessed.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
By mike hussein smith October 10, 2008 12:33 PM OMG, Management, you mean Obama wanted to follow the law and have Congress approve an international treaty? How lawyerly of him. I’d rather go his route than allow GWB to give away the store again to keep his war going.
Perhaps Oblahma should have said that before the Congress instead of committing acts of treason against the Executive Branch?
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
ByteMe,
Yeah, and I guess the word “pre-emptive” in the headline at Fox went over his head a bit.
But he should know what that word means, especially after Iraq.
By 'stina
October 10, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Shawny — abuse of power if hadly a non-issue when Ms. Troopergate will undoubtedly become president if McCain is elected. Sorry, but some of actually care
By Ray
October 10, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
You Tube tape of Maxine Waters lauding the praises of Franklin Raines for doing such a commendable job at Fannie Mae to level the playing field for all those most unfortunate borrowers who want to live the American Dream. Raines even had the balls to state that all of these assets were gold plated and had no danger whatsoever of decreasing in value. Cooked the books for earnings to take home 190M in bonus. He ought to be in jail for fraud. Three black Congressmen beating up on the white Fannie Mae regulator testifying before their committee stating that he better get his act together to protect his job. Then the crowning statements by Mr. Butt Pilot himself , Barney Frank, stating that Raines and Fannie Mae were very solvent and in no danger of going down. Even scolded the interviewer for suggesting such a thing. At the same time, several Repubs were pressing for regulation and stating that we were heading for big problems in the lending industry if we didn’t get our act together. Why don’t you run this tape, Bookman? But no, we couldn’t do that, could we? Might threaten the wrath of Tucker and the AJC image to point out that bad judgement, out and out lies and falling down stupidity were responsible for this crisis. I have never seen an elected official so stupid and incompetent as Maxine Waters. Dow presently at a little over 8,000. Dropped over 25% in the last several days. Lay that at the feet of Raines, Waters, Frank, Dodd , Clinton, the Black Congressional Caucus and all of the black a** kissers in the Congress that didn’t have the balls to call out a devastating scenario. And these people are supposed to lead. What a sorry bunch of losers.
By RW-(the original)
October 10, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
There is no Fox News report saying Palin has been cleared. Fox says the same thing everybody else does, that the McCain campaign says she did nothing wrong, right now.
Ed is probably one of you idiot libs that’s always squawking about Faux news without ever seeing what they’re really reporting.
My prediction: The report will have just enough weasel words in it so that both camps will be able to say they were right and neither will be fully accurate.
By Say What?
October 10, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
THANK YOU, McCAIN SUPPORTERS!!!
By relying on smear politics and bringing the tenor of this campaign to its lowest common denominator, you have succeeded in nauseating the independents and fence-sitters.
Wake up call to the looney-tunes on the right: OUR ECONOMY IS HEMORRHAGING! We don’t care about the worthless crap you’re slinging right now. The financial demise of America is occurring before our very eyes, and you’re off playing nanny nanny boo boo with your base.
You’re just creating a 30% niche of people who will implode when Obama takes office. You’re hurting them, and you’re hurting America. Drop the personal attacks. Start focusing on US for a change, you idiots!
By TN Gelding
October 10, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
I don’t care who Obama associates with. I’m concerned about who he surrounds himself with when he takes office. And from what I’ve seen of his advisors it looks like they know what they are doing and have an idea on how to govern.
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Bosch, Never said anything about liberals in my post, even said both parties. You implied I was talking about liberals. And does it not say some? Am I right or wrong on that?
So show me where I said liberals or anything. You enjoy arguement and in turn seek out opportunities to do so.
You were angered because I made a point and there was not a viable answer you had for it. OR you jumped the gun and did not read because you are not educated enought to understand some, being used as a general term meaning less than a majority. By me saying some, it is actually stating that most do understand.
Sorry I do not spell correctly enough for you. This is not an english class therefore I rarely if ever proof read my post. As opposed to you sir I have a very active life and this is not eh place I come for human interaction. Therefore i am not as concerned with making sure each word is spelled correctly and that I use proper punctuation. However I do believe my post are more than understandable, and only ask that you read and comprehend each word.
You have used the word and to admit to calling someone else a “retard” regardless if it is a joke or not shows the level of your insensitive nature. That shows the true depths of your humanity.
I hope this has answered your questions or concerns, and only wish you would read others post objectivly instead of making up your mind and labeling people as conservative and liberal, before you ever read the entire post.
ps just because someone disagrees or has concerns about Obama does not make them a republican, a conservative or a racist for that matter. Those are mere labels people like you enjoy to help them find arguments better.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Really tcoach, the word “the” isn’t that hard.
By sunshine and thunder
October 10, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
TAXPAYER
This forum is truly frustrating. I found your insults this morning. The insults you made to me at 10:47 last night where you accused me of not answering your questions. Well, I didn’t see your questions TP.
I can assure you that I’ll be glad to answer (or address since the questions are probably as looney as your ideology) any questions your tiny brain cell can create.
JAY
I bet you think JFK wrote “Profiles in Courage” too.
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 10, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
We may not actually get to hear the results of the Palin investigation….
By Jim Jones
October 10, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
Bill Ayers hid my remote.
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Byteme, That is what we differ in opinion about. -I do think things like teh Keating 5 are important. History of nations and of people is all we have to go on. If we do not study and speak honestly about history then we are doomed to repeat it. I feel that if a politician is misleading or dodges questions about a past relationship with a person of national interest then yes it does led to their decision making. Obama has not done much in his career yet. That is not to diminish the things he has done only to say that I feel i still do not know much about him. Like I would like to know his answers to why his disrtict on Chicago’s south side saw an increase in violent crimes in his time as a community organizer and state senator. I also want to know why there is no mention of Sucessful reform from his time in Chicago. The same way I want McCain to answer why his judgment was so bad with the Kieting 5. Alos I want McCain to answer for his reasoning for not calming the crowds when they begin to get out of control. These things give us an insight as to how these candidates make decisions. It is easy to stay on task and say the right things when you know people are watching and you know the MAIN topic. Like I said earlier though, by studing past associates, we may have a grasp as to the kind of ideology and decision making process for the unknown problems for our next president. I know the economy will be a big one, but what else is going to be a risk to our countries way of life, those are why past associates and past dealings are important.
I use this analogy:
Would you send a person to talk with a suicide prevention psychologist, if that person had worked on boards fighting for the same cause as Jack Kevorkian.
I know bad example but best I could think of quickly
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
If they don’t release the findings, that will make everyone believe she’s guilty.
By Martyks
October 10, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
I hate to say this. I really really do. I’m a pacifist. But if, on November 5th, these good ol’ boys try to sell us the idea that McCain actually won the presidency, I think it might be time to ask Ayers what we should do about it. I fear the real November surprise is a supposedly clear cut victory for McCain… and if that does end up to be the claim, what is our patriotic duty? To blindly accept it as gospel truth? I don’t enjoy suspecting a crooked election. The nightmares would begin there….
By truth hurts
October 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
All you partisan hacks need a reality check. Both parties are digging us into a hole that WE will have to dig out of and all people seem concerned with is discrediting the other PARTY. Open your eyes, both PARTIES are screwing us. Government cannot solve the problem because it is the problem. WAKE UP!!! This blog is filled with talking points from both sides - is there no independent thought anymore? To blame our current financial crisis on either party is naive and dangerous. I’ve got to get outo fo here - I’m surrounded by idiots.
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Sorry Bosch I have really big hands and I type too fast and I hit the e first out of a bad habit. But since it is such a pressing issue I will go and enroll in a basic computer class right away. Guess you forgot to read part of my post again about how I tend not to proof read. Once again showing your ignorance by the way you read people’s post.
I guess your theory is that if you think that the person may be a republican then you are only searching for teh parts you don’t like. I just feel sorry for your contemp of those with different views than yours.
With the economy on the dumps there is not much to be happy about, but I think you would have a lil’ more if you would quit being so judgmental.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
No, your misspellings are not a concern to me, but your baseless assumptions about people with no proof to back up such assumptions are.
Whose being judgmental here? You’re being hypocritical on top of everything else. You judge me as being hateful, when I’m not, and then tell me NOT to judge others. What circular logic you have.
I find people who make baseless assumptions to be ignorant, not those who don’t type well.
I don’t type well, and I don’t make baseless assumptions about people until I’ve read their posts for a while. I suggest you do the same before you start throwing out whose ignorant and who isn’t.
G’day and good luck with those computer classes. Education is never a waste.
By gadem
October 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
For the life of me, I can not understand how neo-cons are so angry…they act as when Obama is elected, he will rape all the women and make them get abortions or something…if I am ever that sick in the head as raggedyandi, someone please put me out of my misery…
By Paul
October 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Bosch 12:58
[[“pre-emptive”…But he should know what that word means, especially after Iraq.]]
You know, Bosch, I woke up this morning and told myself “enough of this topic, I suppose.” Then you went and posted that…. so….
You do realize Sen Obama’s been speaking of a preemptive attack on Iran, I’m sure?
And note I’m not necessarily opposed, just wondering how some reconcile their support for him in light of past comments regarding the current administration.
I feel okay about the upcoming election for the following reasons. Regardless of who wins:
the new administration will work to make a health care system better than the one we have now
the new administration is committed to assisting the development of many alternate energy methods
the new administration is committed to programs designed to do away with the need for oil from the Middle East
Why I’m not too pleased?
the likely winner doesn’t seem all that ready to make hard choices on SS/Medicare and other ‘entitlement’ programs
the new administration, other than in grand generalities, has not enunciated any alternate strategies or desired outcomes that would halt Iran’s drive for a nuke, especially given the action they say they will take
they seem to limit the desire for military intervention for ‘humanitarian’ missions only to the extent we don’t have resources to intervene
I’ve not heard any practical examples of how, when working with the opposition, “change” will be accomplished. I hope he doesn’t mean “If I have a veto-proof majority…”
Howzzat?
By Mike
October 10, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
I agree that the Ayers thing is a bunch of nonsense, but I can only laugh at the liberals on this board mocking conspiracy theories. The hypocrisy is abusrd.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Paul,
“You do realize Sen Obama’s been speaking of a preemptive attack on Iran, I’m sure?”
He has not doo-doo head! So there! (sorry tcoach “doo-doo head” is an inside joke not an insult to Paul)
And UM,
“Regardless of who wins:
the new administration will work to make a health care system better than the one we have now
the new administration is committed to assisting the development of many alternate energy methods
the new administration is committed to programs designed to do away with the need for oil from the Middle East”
“Regardless of who wins” Ya’ sure about that? What cho’ been smoking?
And, can you answer this for me? What can anybody actually DO about Iran getting a nuke? Hmmmm? Whose job is it to say one country can have one while others can’t?
Why do we need to use our military in a unilateral mission for humanitarian needs? Isn’t that, hum, I think, wait a minute, the second or third excuse Bush used for Iraq after the whole WMD thing didn’t work out.
Change, smange, you know what the means. It sounds good in the election, they have all said it, we’ll just see if by some weird chance THIS ONE actually means it! But either way, with either candidate, change is inevitable because Bush sucks so bad!!! Ha!!!!
Howzzat?
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Bosch nice try but you loose again. In your earlier post you said you quit reading my post when it said some of you don’t get it. Which is a statement I think you would agree with, that some on this blog do not get it. If everyone goet it then there would not be a need for the blog.
I was only wrong in choice of words, I should not have said hate. Slightly too strong, what I should have said was demeaning and boarderline stereotypical comments you normally make. You were the first to accuse any type of party or political affiliation refering to me attackin g liberals, show me where was the attack. Oh you just made it up to have something to argue about, cool. So if you want to play the blame game you began the judging first. You judged by the post, that by your own admission did not read, that I was against liberals and for republicans. Answer me this you who are so wise. Why am I not permitted, with out risk of attack, to mention question that not only I have, but many others do as well. I guess we should just be as smart and enlightened as you and call other people retarded in an act of insenitivity unthinkable by most. Does not matter if you were playing or not. What you are actually doing is belittling a group of people, you should be proud. Again what exactly show me were I made assumptions, other than Obama does seem to be mentioned with many controversial figures. I even stated that I was unsure if tehy ever worked together. You implied the rest because you made a judgemental assumption of what I was trying to state and neglected to read my post objectivly. So you sir have been proven to be a assumer and my friend that is why we have been going back and forth I refuse to be an a**.
By edspyhill01
October 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Bill Ayers knew about the Tet Offensive but couldn’t tell anyone because he was underground.
Bill Ayers put the tape on the Watergate door and called security.
Bill Ayers released the Pentagon Papers.
Bill Ayers forged the Italian Niger yellowcake memo.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
I am also not inclined to read posts that start off “Bosch nice try but you loose again.” First of all, I’m not a “loose” person. I’m very happily married thank you very much. And second, I don’t consider this blog, or politics in general as a game to win or lose. I play soccer, that’s a real game, this blog is not.
Do you really want to continue with this line or move on to something more mature?
But again, good luck with your classes.
By PinkoNeoConLibertarian
October 10, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Aw Jay…now you done gone and did it! Next thing you know you’ll be spouting off some foolishness about how the ACLU exists to defend the Bill of Rights or some other wild idea.
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
tcoach…..
spacing, paragraphs
please
By Lancia
October 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
<<<>>>>
You hit it on the head…that is what most of us hope for… ALL of the MSM just go AWAY!
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
How long does it take an Alaskan to release a report?
That’s not some weird joke either!
By getalife
October 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Well, they are blaming her husband so Ayers is off the hook.
While our country collapses, McPalin are having hate rallies.
First dude should lead them to secede from our country.
Get out wingnuts.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 10, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Dearest kookman blog dimwits: There has been a new blog up for, oh, I don’t know, about 3 hours now.
By Robin Landseadel
October 10, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Oh this is all so stupid—-everybody knows the teleprompter was invented by Karl Marx!
By Jason
October 10, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
I love how angry the GOP gets over good satire. It exposes just how ridiculous their ideas are. They keep trying to make connections that don’t exist (like Iraq and 9/11 - SOUND FAMILIAR?). They want to talk about the past but neglect to mention MCCAIN and the KEATING 5. As Obama climbs in the polls they get more ANGRY and more DESPERATE. And I’m LOVING every minute of it!!!!
By TDT
October 10, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
I am laughing so hard that my cheeks hurt. I usually just read your column Jay and not comment but today I just had to say you made my day! I think I better stop typing because Bill Ayers just tapped me on the shoulder and said that I am being let go for having too much fun at work!
By Paul
October 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Bosch 2:08
Here’s how I arrived at my conclusion, keeping in mind to “preempt” means to hit them before they can attack us. Even if they have not yet attacked us.
[[- Obama has stated Iran is developing nuclear weapons
Obama has said an Iran with nukes would be a “game changer”
Obama has said he will not let Iran obtain a nuke
Plausible scenario: Obama wins. Iran continues its development program. Iran continues to shut out the IAEA. Iran spurns UN sanctions, to the extent Russia and China will allow any sanctions. Iran conducts a nuclear test and announces “next stop, weaponize.” Obama says ‘no no no, you know what I’ve said.’ Iran says “we don’t care. You can’t stop us, deployment capability in four months.’
I take Obama at his word. His statements are another way of saying, barring diplomatic efforts, that if Iran is on track to acquire a nuke he’ll stop them. That’s preemption. And if that means through military force, well, then the option on the table was something he’d do.
I’ll double doo-doo head you and raise you a ‘so there.’
Not smoking, just quoting from both candidates’ statements on health care, environmental care, alternate fuels/energy development and the goal of eliminating the need for ME oil. They share the same goals.
I really should read all your post rather than answering a part and reading, but…
[[And, can you answer this for me? What can anybody actually DO about Iran getting a nuke? Hmmmm? Whose job is it to say one country can have one while others can’t?]]
Bosch! This is what I’ve been trying to tell you! Obama has said Iran cannot have a nuke! He’s said he will not allow it! He’s said he’d do anything to keep them from getting one!
How can I rephrase that if you still do not understand?
Now, if your question was a theoretical policy one, not in relation to Sen Obama, we can go there, too.
[[Why do we need to use our military in a unilateral mission for humanitarian needs? Isn’t that, hum, I think, wait a minute, the second or third excuse Bush used for Iraq after the whole WMD thing didn’t work out. ]]
Bosch! This is what I’ve been trying to tell you!
This began with Sen Biden and Sen Obama picked up the theme and was quite clear about it in the last debate! There’s a” humanitarian/genocide/we don’t like you making other people suffer” event, we will be committed to stopping it! Unilateral if we have to. If we don’t have the resources we’ll ask our allies. But still try to find a way to intervene.
Sen Obama has given clear statements on this. You’re not yanking my chain on this, are you?
By A Taxpayer
October 10, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Jay
You are a pompous idiot.
By tcoach
October 10, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
BOSCH YOU ARE BEYOND UNDERSTANDING. WHAT GAME ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. NEVER SAID IT WAS A COMPETITION AGAIN. WAS A PLAY UPON WORDS SINCE YOU FEEL THE NEED TO GO BACK AND FORTH. I AM ALSO SO GLAD OUR FRIEND GODZILLA COULD COME OUT AND PLAY. WHY DO YOU INTERACT WITH ME DIRECTLY. YOU WERE NOT SPOKEN TOO, NO OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS SENT YOUR WAY SO WHAT IN YOUR DELUSIONAL MIND MAKES YOU THINK I WOULD LISTEN TO ANYTHING A DIVIDER SUCH AS YOURSELF HAS TO SAY.
By Ricardo
October 10, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
“We don’t know enough about this candidate, why won’t he release all of the information?”
“Why won’t Obama come clean?”
Incredibly, quotes from Sarah Palin
“Take your cameras with you when you vote.” quote from Richardo
By MAC
October 10, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
There have been a lot of political scandals during the last 16 years and Palin’s so-called Troopergate isn’t on the top 100 in importance or relevance, whether she influenced it or not.
However, the fact that you are promoting this tells me you are nervous about Palin’s success and worried that Obama can’t close.
By Bosch
October 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Paul, Paul, Paul,
No, I’m not yanking your chain. As I’ve said numerous times before, I don’t believe Obama would bomb Iran.
Or, I can put it this way: I disagree with him if that is indeed his intention. Gasp! I know, I’m disagree with him. There, I did it.
If he did, under the same mysterious circumstances as Bush bombed Iraq, I’d be the first to call for his resignation.
Again, I think this is all tough talk - and you also have to keep in mind that crazy Iranian guy with weird name, will be up for re-election soon (I know, I know, Iranian elections aren’t that credible), and he’s not the one with the bomb codes anyway (if such bomb codes existed).
I know what Biden said about Darfur and I disagree with him too!
By GoneWild
October 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
I’d like to thank Sarah Palin and McCain for the beatdown I recieved last night in the parking lot at the Regal Cinema. Someone scream “Go Home Ncca” as I got in my Vote Obama car. I looked and that must’ve appeared to be an aggressive move, so they came over to my car and bashed me in the head till I was able to drive off. Totally caught me by surprise. To all you Rightwinger, thanks you’re doing a wonderful job of bringing the country together. My head would like to thank Mrs.Palin for her action of getting the Rightwingers excited about hurting people. Preciate it.
By C'mon people
October 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
I have it on good authority that it was acutall Ayers who started the Iraq war based on a $1 bet he made with President Bush. Let’s see who wins.
By Jason in Oregon
October 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
That was hilarious - good stuff!
By Daniel Roberson
October 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
This is an example of reason leaving the stage in American Political Conversation. The market is crashing, the environment is in danger, we are in a War that will end up costing $3,000,000,000, we have national debt of over $10,000,000,000…and we have articles like this that poeple actually consider to be TRUE! America, you poor nation, the empire is over because “REASON” is no longer apart of our lives.
By Say What?
October 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
For the life of me, I can’t understand how the McCain backers can stomp their feet and tell us how MAD they are that Obama/Biden is whupping up on their ticket.
Do they not realize that Americans are reacting to the ABYSMAL performance of Republicans in Congress and in the executive branch for the past decade?
Idiots!!! We’re the ones who are MAD…MAD as hell, in fact, at what your people have done to our country! Sit down, shut up, and let us fix the mess you’ve created.
By Daniel Roberson
October 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
This is an example of reason leaving the stage in American Political Conversation. The market is crashing, the environment is in danger, we are in a War that will end up costing $3,000,000,000,000, we have national debt of over $10,000,000,000,000…and we have articles like this that poeple actually consider to be TRUE! America, you poor nation, the empire is over because “REASON” is no longer apart of our lives.
By Goober
October 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
Take a Buspar, man. Oh, and I don’t think I’ll paint your back porch after all.
By kladinvt
October 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
Who knew that ‘white sheet’s came in jimungo size to cover all these ‘elephant asses’!
By T
October 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
Bill Ayers is also behind the mainstream media’s cover-up stories!
By Paul
October 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Bosch 3:04
Then if Obama is not to be believed, this is, sadly, an early example of diminishing American credibility and likely leading to other countries’ pushing the boundaries.
It’s also a threat he did not have to make. I believe some would say this was caused by ‘inexperience.’
You wouldn’t help in Darfur? Why, you.. you… heartless doo doo head! And you call yourself a progressive?
By Willy4
October 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
What a great job you have — writing nonsense and getting paid for it!! No wonder print “news” is on it’s last legs.
By Jerry
October 10, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
It really is fantastic fun to read the posts of the desperate, impotent GOP supporters here.
After 8 years of justifiably laughing at the loony conspiracy theories on the left, they are now resorting to the same ludicrous tactics.
What goes around, comes around I guess!
By Jerry
October 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
It really is fantastic fun to read the posts of the desperate, impotent GOP supporters here.
After 8 years of justifiably laughing at the loony conspiracy theories on the left, they are now resorting to the same ludicrous tactics.
What goes around, comes around I guess!
By Dagny and John's Love Child
October 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
The bottom line is that Obama, and his supporters (most of you) hate this country - Oh, you say you love it, but you will only love it if everyone else bends and reforms the US as a socialist empire - I don’t want to make you guys do anything - you all want us to pay for your laziness, and that is the root of the problem.
If you have a problem with the military, don’t join it - if you don’t want to be a capitalist, don’t be one - but forcing others to your viewpoint is pure garbage —-
You people deserve what you are going to get…. it’s just a shame that the constitution, the country, and the thought of free men in pursuit of happiness all have to die in order for you to see the error of your thoughts.
Even then, I am sure you will place blame on others, just as you do for every other problem in your pathetic little lives. Sad really…
By Say What?
October 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
Obama has finally admitted the Ayers of his ways, so let’s let it go now, okay?
By SayNo2McCain
October 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Who truly cares if the book was written by Barack Obama? Both, Michelle and Barack have already proven that they are high achievers.
The man who wrote the article clearly shows his lack of respect for an educated black man. To him, educated and articulate black men and women are nonexistent. He has settled into his ways and can never be convinced, otherwise.
In his opinion, black men and women communicate on Sarah Palin and John McCain’s achievement levels only. Therefore, in his opinion, Barack Obama could not have written “Dreams from My Father” on his own. However, the writer’s opinion does not count, due to his own prejudices.
Prejudices # 1 – continues to use the word liberal in his analysis of the book.
Prejudices # 2 – just because no one has walked onto the PGA off the street, does not mean it can’t or will not be accomplished in the future. The reason I deem this prejudice is because it has happened in other sports.
Prejudices # 3 – thinks only in terms of white literature, as the realm of a successful author.
I honestly believe that the man who wrote the article is (#1) jealous of Barack’s achievements, (#2) only goal is to discredit him in some form and (#3) hopes to get rich or die trying.
By Joe
October 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
I’m an Iraq War veteran and I am proudly voting for Mr. Obama. It’s not even a question. If you are middle or working class or a serviceman and you’re trying to save every dollar to just get by, I don’t understand how you could vote otherwise.
Mr. Bookman: I enjoyed your article, it is nice to laugh for a change these days. I really wish we could blame all of our problems on someone out of the blue like a “Bill Ayers”, but unfortunately we can not. The challenges we face are too real.
By RUSerious
October 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Have you seen a McCain rally lately?
Springtime for Hitler in Germany…
Come and join the Nazi party!!!
By CrazyPeeps
October 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
Questions About Obama’s Background
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ‘round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap to say the least! Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York. By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ‘seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was ‘sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’. Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those ‘small’ Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake! All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008. Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this?
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By sarah not the sixpack
October 10, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
Thank you Jay…Colbert couldn’t have put it better… (don’t tell him I said that)
By TN Gelding
October 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
* Dagny and John’s Love Child*
October 10, 2008 4:34 PM
We don’t hate our country, just the actions she has taken in our name.
By JL
October 10, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this
Aha, now the truth comes out! I knew that there was something truly sinister going on here! Thanks Jay for having even greater courage than Palin in exposing the Ayers Obama connection.
By Dagny and John's Love Child
October 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this
TN - Trying to bring about socialism is exactly the type of think an America hater would be for - I am not proud of the republican party, W couldn’t have caused more harm if he was actually trying - easily the biggest disappointment of my adult voting life - but at least he was trying to create Russia - West.
By Asbury
October 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
The problem with conspiracies is everybody involved has to shut up. Funny how Obama could assemble a successful conspiracy to take over the United States, & Dick Cheney couldn’t. That’s why Obama got Al Gore elected president, & now that Gore is wrapping up his second term, Obama is ready to take over.
By Steve
October 10, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this
The AJC (aka liberal rag) will be out of business soon…most of COX’s other newspapaers have failed…enjoy it while you can Jay.
By donald
October 10, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this
This whole Ayers thing is so funny, these Pilgrims are so desperate for a boogey man that they have dug up an aging 60 radical who was found innocent of all charges over 20 years ago. No word from these hypocrites on the Palin investigation though, I guess that is much too new to exert paranoia!
The fact of the matter is that W and his cohorts are a bunch of sorry posers, McCain has the same snake oil ideas as the former so we have these pseudo conspicary theroists running amok trying to derail a train that is stream rolling over the carcass of “voodoo economics”. These people never had nothing to say, Rush Limbaugh, a drugged out has been neo con artist trying to hang on to any sense of self. It is monkeys like this that pilgrims aspire to be.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
October 10, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this
Crazy/Peckerwood, Manchurian candidate? Thank you for enlightening us. Moron!
By BT fan
October 10, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
Separated at Birth: Jay Bookman and Barney Franks
By John Jeter
October 10, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this
We all remember where WE were when George W. Bush and Karl Rove engineered the Supreme Court’s theft of the popular election via the Electoral College from Al Gore. Thanks to Gore, we went our way with heads high, with dignity. Here we are, eight years later, our country tattered, in shreds, near depression - and what does the GOP do? … It’s like watching a Little League game and the rich dad who can’t take watching his spoiled kid lose … Those eight long years ago were miserable then. They’re even worse now. And we’re now swallowing such horror from the hate-incited crowds. Do they have no memory? No pride? No dignity?
By GRITS
October 10, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this
Bravo!
By Morris
October 10, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
Jay Bookman, you have to be that jealous of Obama? He couldn’t write his own book about his life? Just because you can’t write that good yourself you hate on someone who can!
Man, I feel bad for you.
By Morris
October 10, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
Jay Bookman, you have to be that jealous of Obama? He couldn’t write his own book about his life? Just because you can’t write that good yourself you hate on someone who can!
Man, I feel bad for you.
By adamsonxfifteen@gmail.com
October 10, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this
Do you REALLY consider yourself a reputable news source?
Really?
This is f*** drivel.
By adamson
October 10, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this
Do you REALLY consider yourself a reputable news source?
Really?
This is f*** drivel.
By dawnbc1
October 10, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
Man, there aren’t enough psychiatric drugs on the planet for your insane paranoia.
By RThomas
October 10, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
to BDAtlanta - If any rightwing dittoheads vandalize my car or my house, you’d better beileve I will press both criminal chargs and a civil suit for damages. The same fate awaits any of them who threaten me with harm. If any of them are so stupid as to physically attack me, I will hit back. They don’t want to ride that particular train. Remember the motto of the Revolution: DON’T TREAD ON ME.
By RThomas
October 10, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this
to BDAtlanta - If any rightwing dittoheads vandalize my car or my house, you’d better believe I will press both criminal charges and a civil suit for damages. The same fate awaits any of them who threaten me with harm. If any of them are so stupid as to physically attack me, I will hit back. They don’t want to ride that particular train. Remember the motto of the Revolution: DON’T TREAD ON ME.
By Catie
October 10, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this
And all this time we’ve wondered who killed Kenny on South Park? Now we know - it was Bill Ayers.
By terri
October 10, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this
McCain, the lying, traitorous to POW’s, cheating bigamist flipflopper and his insane vp and their minions are desperate
By MAC
October 10, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this
Bill Ayers and his wife Bernadette Dorhn are no different than Timothy McVeigh (blew up the Federal Bldg in Oklahoma City) except McVeigh was more competent in his bombing and therefore killed many innocent people.
Ayers and his wife are both on record, in their own voices, saying they wish they had done more bombing and Ayers is on record bragging that he was guilty but in this country would get away with it. No repentance to this day.
Three domestic terrorists, one rightly executed and convicted, the other two excused for their crimes and now implementing “progressive” education agendas. Oh, and both happen to be “acquaintances” of the Democratic nominee.
McVeigh = Ayers = Dorhn. Left-wing, right-wing shouldn’t matter.
The public must demand a full accounting of the alliance between Barry and Ayers since the press won’t do it, or in Jay’s case, will even mock those who ask the questions.
By anya
October 10, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this
Oh boy! we GOP are so desperate. Obama and Ayers sat on a charity board together and the bankroller for that board - the one who doled out the money - well his wife endorses Mccain! guilty guilty
Anyhow what does that all matter - we have a new problem GOP-ers.
TROOPERGATE has been revealed.
The governor broke the law.
Then she lied.
Then she tried to point a finger at her opponent.
I think this will work!
By H. Gobbler
October 11, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this
Have been reading comments from both sides regarding articles of this sort for weeks. None of you get it. You are all of the same ilk; led around like sheep and pushed to the cliff edge like lemmings. Are any of you ever going to wake up and actually think for yourselves?
By Billy
October 11, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this
What was the motivation behind the bombings, MAC? McVeigh was out for blood. Ayers, to the best of my knowledge, was out to stop the Vietnam War. If he really wanted to take out a bunch of people, I have a hard time imagining that he couldn’t do so. I have yet to see anything to indicate that loss of life was the goal.
Bombing a Federal building with the intention of killing as many as possible, knowing that it houses a daycare facility does NOT equal bombing a Federal building used to plot an illegal, unjust war that is resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, with the motive of ending said war. Anyone who claims otherwise is either intellectually dishonest or intellectually deficient.
By old91A10
October 11, 2008 1:56 AM | Link to this
@ Billy October 11, 2008 12:26 AM
Under any rationale, are you f’n crazy?
Besides, the Weather Underground, and Ayers/Dohrn in particular, are on the record as accepting collateral death of innocents.
F’n Obamaniacs are just so transfixed, they don’t get anything!
By old91A10
October 11, 2008 2:16 AM | Link to this
How many iterations of explanations were there, and how many more can we expect from Obama, the master of equivocation and duplicity!?
Remember Wright? Obama started with ‘I wasn’t there that day’, but do you remember how it turned out?
Remember Rezko? Obama started with ‘He’s just a campaign donor’, but do you remember how it has gone so far?
Now there is Ayers. Obama started with ‘I had no idea and was only eight years old’, ‘We were casual neighborhood acquantances’, ‘We sat on a board’, and ‘Our kids went to the same school’, but CNN finally did a report on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ
The Obama camp has now come up with at least seven differing stories, so far. Want a recap?
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/09/when-it-comes-to-ayers-it-is-participation-that-matters/
By old91A10
October 11, 2008 2:29 AM | Link to this
I believe the moderator is an ACORN-ista. ping……..
By old91A10
October 11, 2008 3:16 AM | Link to this
I was hoping ‘Billy October 11, 2008 12:26 AM’ would respond.
I wanted to get this ‘bombing’ and ‘terrorism’ thing out into the air, considering that I have been hearing a similar argument from other idiots.
Another one I’ve heard is, ‘If X is elected, then Y will blah-blah-blah (some kind of mayhem)’. Of course, the speaker is always talking about ‘them’, where ‘X’, ‘Y’, ‘them’, and ‘the speaker’ are of all flavors.
I hate the Patriot Act, and that people like these give it some credence.
By MAC
October 11, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
McVeigh bombed a US govt building in retaliation for Waco, Ruby Ridge and other govt actions.
Ayers abd Dorhn bombed US govt buildings in retaliation for the Vietnam War in specific and capitalism in general. Some of their group were killed manufacturing nail bombs designated for Fort Dix. If you don’t think they meant to kill innocents then you don’t know what you are talking about, ie. intellectually deficient, Billy.
By Jack Hussein Smith
October 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
You keep talking this sh -t ,you stupid republicans, and we will vote for Ayres/Wright in 2016… ha ha ha ha ha has your head exploded yet?
By Can You Read
October 11, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
Jay, do you have the ability to read? If the answer is yes or even maybe then you may want to spend a few hours reading the ‘troopergate’ report for yourself. I know it’s not a normal process for people like you, but you may find that you actually are capable of having your own thoughts………..
By old91A10
October 11, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
@ Jack Hussein Smith October 11, 2008 12:35 PM “… we will vote for Ayres/Wright in 2016….”
You have already done that in 2008.
Bag-o-5h1t: Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, Frank, Schumer, Brazille, Dean, …, Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, Wright, Pfleger, Caldwell, McClurken, Daley, Lippert, …, Rezko, Blagojevich, Auchi, Johnson, Raines, Pritzker, Groelich, Axelrod, Gibbs, Dunn, (Susan)Rice, …, and still counting.
By frank burns
October 11, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
I knew it! Sarah is my hero, and she is so cocky, witty and smart as a whip. Now this new Ayers connection makes perfect sense — right in tune with the entire broad-range media trap that has been set for her. Go Sarah!
By raj
October 12, 2008 5:41 AM | Link to this
Was this piece commissioned by The Onion?
By Jamie
October 12, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this
Wow, this article is insane. I do not care who you vote for, as long as oyu don’t act stupid and write things that just do not line up. Ayers affiliation or not, suggesting Obama was at Kennedy’s assasination as a two year old is bogus. I think we, as the American people shouldn’t let politicians or the media act as if we are stupid.