Jay Bookman

By E

October 8, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

Obama won, of course.

McCain said last night he knows how to get bin Laden.

Why has he not told Bush and Company?

bin Laden’s been at large all this time, what’s he waiting on?

I can only surmise McCain’s hoping to become President, then he will get bin Laden, he wants all the glory.

Just think about all those people who died on 9/11.

McCain must truly be a sick, sick, man.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Truth

October 8, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Jay… I love the Kenny Rogers line. Good stuff and good song!

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Ok, this is funny:

That One ‘08

Joe Biden on Today Show this morning brushed the term off and said John wasn’t comfortable being in attack mode and that he didn’t mean anything by the phrase.

By Goldie

October 8, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

It’s sad, my friends, when the old white dude just can’t connect with America when his “strength” for debating is the town-hall format… I’m embarrassed for the Repug Party.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

When Barack Obama recently said, “John McCain has no idea what he’s up against,” he really wasn’t kidding

Barack’s got yer countin’

Is it any wonder Democrats don’t want you to know who’s voting? Yet at the same time they want to get rid of secret ballots for union elections.

God help us!

By N-GA

October 8, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

All the Republican talking heads and apologists have been screaming about Ayers for days now. It’s both incredible and pathetic that they have nothing else to fight with.

Obama is more intelligent, more reasoned, more articulate, more moral, and infinitely more qualified to lead this country.

How many days, Jay? You need to have a “Countdown” component on each blog.

By Goldie

October 8, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

ByteMe— John McBush was just saying what he feels with his “that one!” comment, such anger and disdain for anyone who may disagree with him.

McBush— Unfit for the presidency.

By Zach

October 8, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

When will you Christians ever learn? You keep saying, “God help us!” Yet you claim to be anti-socialist.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

What does being a Christian and socialism have in common?

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

ByteMe,

That was a good one. Where can I place my order. I’d like to send them out to some select members of the Republican party.

By Zach

October 8, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Heaven is a welfare state; we need to bring it down.

By Copyleft

October 8, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Given that the McCain backers were all bragging about how “Obama’s TERRIFIED of a town-hall debate forum!”, and that Obama performed well in the setting where McCain desperately needed him to fail or screw up…

I’d say Obama came out ahead on this one. McCain needed something to disrupt Obama’s momentum, and it didn’t happen.

By Goldie

October 8, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Zach @ 9:17 — LMAO! Gotta get rid of that socialist welfare place called “heaven”!

By the pledge

October 8, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

One nation, under Obama!

By nobama

October 8, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

You dimwitocrats just don’t get it do you? Of course Obummer’s charasmatic, charming, articulate, etc.; how else would he be able to hold onto the perception that he’s a good guy for so long? Like Clinton back in the 90’s, he’s using a polished front to hide the deceitful politician that he really is.

He is completely unqaulified (two measly years in the senate with only a couple of votes shows that). His “tax cuts” won’t do anything for this country except create more turmoil. Sure, taxing the rich and giving more exemptions to the poor sounds good, but who do you think provides all the jobs? The more you cap income and take from the people who run corporate America, the more you’ll find even more firms going offshore and cutting jobs just so they can keep up with ever-increasing taxes. Obama is no different from Pelosi, Ried, and the other nuts in Washington who are completely out of touch with America and want nothing more than to ruin this great country by dragging it down into socialism.

John McCain may not be perfect and may not be “polished and sophisticated and articulate”, but at least he’s not trying to fool people into a brand of “change” that will only make things worse.

By Southern ATL

October 8, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

TO ALL U.S.VETERANS:

FIND OUT WHO IN WASHINGTON REALLY SUPPORTS OUR VETERANS AND TROOPS. I AM A VETERAN AND WAS DISAPPOINTED IN MY RESEARCH…CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.veteranreportcard.org/index.html

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Are you Dems sure you want to highlight the goof up by McCain where he called Obama, that one? It came in an answer where I bet you don’t want too many people to know the facts.

By the way, my friends, I know you grow a little weary with this back-and-forth. It was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney.

You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me. I have fought time after time against these pork barrel — these bills that come to the floor and they have all kinds of goodies and all kinds of things in them for everybody and they buy off the votes

Obama/Biden aka the third Bush term.

By Ray

October 8, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

ByteMe,

I and most other thinking Americans won’t vote for THAT ONE either. THAT ONE will spell doom for our economic progress, the defense of this nation and the future of my grandchildren’s security. THAT ONE is just a slick talking buffoon who has pulled the wool over the eyes of the “anyone but Bush” crowd and will spell ruin for our future. Be careful what you wish for…..

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

I’m still trying to figure out who McCain was addressing with his “my friends” comments. We know it’s not one of his wives or any from the Republican party that he has been railing against during his campaign or any from the Democrat party since he clearly opposes anything and everything that is Democrat or any of those people that support either the Republican or Democrat parties and we know he has absolutely nothing good to say about any Independents…He must be addressing his lobbyist friends or Phil Gramm or those kind of people — the ones he likes to clown around with and do favors for and get money from. That’s right, those people, his kind of friends.

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 8:53 AM

God will help us and so will Obama. By this time next year he’ll have the economy humming again and the markets will be at all time highs.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

It amazes me how so many Democrats trash Christianity. I know there are some Democrats who have faith and I wish they would stand up sometimes to denounce the bashing…. It would actually help your cause!

By Dawggy Style

October 8, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Doesn’t it seem strange that only 54% of CNN’s news staff would claim Obama as the victor? And over at CBS, my God, 26% of CBS’ employees actually sided with McCain!

I’m starting to get the hang of this liberal-leaning, say anything you want, distort the facts, blame everybody else, and then huddle around the tube and soak in some more numbing mind-control. Bookman, this is really pretty easy stuff. You’re stealing money, my man!! (Of course, you’re a DemWit).

By NWO

October 8, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Obama will turn this world around.

The world wants Obama!

The world needs Obama!

Save the world!

Vote Obama!

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Should someone tell this “Dawggy Style” thing what means this “polling” he speaks of?

That’s it’s not a poll of CNN or CBS employees?

Naw, this is too funny. Go on, Dawggy. Show us what that UGA edjumacation dun taughtcha!

By T

October 8, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

John McCain may not be perfect and may not be “polished and sophisticated and articulate”, but at least he’s not trying to fool people into a brand of “change” that will only make things worse.

hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Both are polititians. Both stretch the truth. Just look at factcheck.

Providing a tax break for small business will help them be more marketable for good employees and help with retention.

Truth

Come on now. I’m I my brothers keeper.

By ByteMe

That is cute. I bet people will put all kinds of meaning on it that are irrelevant, though.

By Alice

October 8, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Republicans always push “personal responsibility”, except when it comes to the jack@sses they put into office.

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

nobama

October 8, 2008 9:22 AM

You’re right, he is inexperienced. That concerned me too when we could have had Hillary. But with him now at least we have a chance for true reform. McCain doesn’t have a clue and neither do his advisors. You see what you want, but I see JFK, HST and MLK,JR. Time will tell.

By Peter Petrelli

October 8, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Obama is the cheerleader for hope, change, and an America we can be proud of.

Save the cheerleader.

Save the world.

By bullfrog

October 8, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

When can Obama can go back to church again?

By TW

October 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Truth - whenever the Dems speak up for Christianity the right demeans them as ‘lib.’

Truth of the matter is the right likes to play God - rather than do His Will (costs too much).

Guess it’s a good thing for the Republican Christians that God didn’t create Iraq civilians…

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Nobama @ 9.22, do I have to, once again, patiently explain to you and your delusional wingnut friends that whatever you may feel personally about Bill Clinton, he was, and is, not perceived by the public as a “deceitful politician”, but rather an extremely effective and competent one? That he left office with approval numbers higher than Ronnie Reagan’s? That his popularity with the public actually peaked when the republican congress stupidly chose to impeach him? Do I really need to do that, or will you stop pretending that your wingnut alternative reality is something applicable to us rational folks?

By "The Corporal"

October 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

For some very strange reason that even I, the Corporal, cannot comprehend, McCain simply does not want to win.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Ahhh T… very true! But, Democrats want to take my money and use it for what they deem necessary. Republicans want to use their money for what they themselves deem necessary. It isnt the governments job to tell me how to help others. I must say that I am glad that at least one of you isnt scared to show your faith. Keep it up!

By Dawggy Style

October 8, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Hillbilly Douche Bag,

No kidding? Can’t take a little satirical humor when it’s not spilling out of SNL?

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 8, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Have you hugged your voters registration card today

Please, please check!

Caging is happening here in GA now!

I saw it when I was voting yesterday.

You still have time to make sure your right to vote has not been purged!

Here’s thelinkto check your registration

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

“The Corporal”

October 8, 2008 9:46 AM

He would have certainly been a better choice in 2000, but it’s too late now. Maybe he realizes time has passed him by.

By Mr. Spock

October 8, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Obama said great things last night about healthcare and putting our first priority on energy.

With Obama, we may all live long and prosper.

Vulcans for Obama

By T

October 8, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Sorry Truth.

Am I my brothers keeper? Coffee isn’t working yet.

Yes sir, it is wrong to attack anyone based on their faith. Sometimes we are just tired of people trying to force their beleifs on the public. A lot of the attacks start when the same people see holes in your faith. Is it right? No. That should be left to you and your God.

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

The heads of the Republican party still like to promote their trickle-down economics philosophy. McCain is a firm believer in this philosophy and is a devout practitioner. He just can’t help but bring up the trickle down approach and his reverence for all things Reagan every chance he gets. Funny how the Reagans don’t have anything good to say about McCain though. I wonder why that is — but, that’s another story. Anyway, back to that most favored Republican philosophy — trickle-down economics. Trickle down, Hmmm, trickle and down. Let’s break this down a little bit further. In simpler terms, terms that the Republican voting base might one day understand, trickle down economics is analogous to the big dawg hiking its leg over the little dawg where the big dawgs are people like McCain and Phil Gramm and their “friends”. I’ll leave it to the Republican base to figure out that they’re in the little dawg population. Once they figure that one out, who knows, they might even figure out what warm yellow rain is…Nah.

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Ray: THAT ONE is kicking The Old White Guy’s a$$. Just annoys the crap out of you, huh? We must all have been hoodwinked by a flashy grin and those gospel rhythms in his speech.

Or maybe, like every poll shows, we like his ideas and THAT ONE’s policy proposals better than The Old White Guy’s.

McCain wants to make this about personality and character. Obama wants to make it about issues that affect people like me. Who’s winning?

Yeah, it must be because we’re all not thinking Americans, huh? Sure. I want the guy who graduated at the top of his class and was a constitutional law professor for many years and who made it into the upper-middle class by working his tush off. And you want….?

By Truth-less

October 8, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Truth-less,

Republicans just used more of our money in 8 years than any other administration in the past 40 years, you moron. McCain with his lobbyist panel won’t be any different.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

T… I seriously never thought I would see the day when it was bad to be a Christian in America.

I hear ya on the coffee. I have been trying to cut down and I am almost completely off of it. It is seriously like a drug!

By Zach

October 8, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Have you heard the “good news”? Religion is so 20th century. We have grown up, learned about science, history, and archaeology, and now we know it’s all a hoax.

Talk to any snakes lately?

By E

October 8, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

McCain didn’t do so well in his beloved Town Hall format, did he?, when the
audience members aren’t hand-picked, invitation-only, die-hard Republican suppporters.

He was so disoriented when there was no loud cheering, no roars of laughter at his pathetic jokes (“Hair plugs?! Good grief!).

And he couldn’t do his racist and ugly personal attacks on Obama, so he didn’t get any big roars or shouts of “terrorist.”

He just got flatter and flatter and flatter and then when it was over, perfunctory handshakes (sort of - when Obama extended his hand to McCain, McCain gave his hand to Cindy) and then he vanished? Like something out of “Buffy” or “Charmed,” eh?

What was that all about?

Why did McCain flee the stage so soon after the debate?

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Truth

October 8, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Truth-less…. name calling will get you nowhere. Grow up a little.

By Alice

October 8, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Truth, seriously?

Christians have made life pretty damn miserable in America for anyone who isn’t Christian, or heterosexual, or pro-life, etc.

By dirk digler

October 8, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

There is no God.

No God. Know Obama!

By Truth

October 8, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Alice… The same can be said about non-Christians, non-heterosexuals, and pro choice. It is all about perspective.

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

E: The camera you were watching didn’t show that when they met in the middle of the stage and got in the way of Brokaw’s teleprompter, that they shook hands. ABC had it this morning. That’s why the later meeting near the crowd, they didn’t bother to shake hands.

Don’t focus on the trivialities! Focus on the issues. Issues are winning the day.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

E,

That wasn’t a town hall debate. All the questions were prescreened and approved by Brokaw. All he did was have other people read his questions.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

David Kernel has finally been indicted by a federal grand jury in the Palin email case. Amazingly the AP actually identified his father as a Democrat lawmaker.

By lrd

October 8, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Handshake, like the one he has extended over the aisle over the years maybe?

So, we bailed out with 700B( yes it is a bailout, not PC rescue).. yet McCain last night offered for the govt under him to pay off peoples mortgages and renegotiate rates. Socialism people, plain and simple.. And will the pay for people who did not make stupide mistakes? Why should I have to bend over for a bailout and then again for buy out of mortgages…. and where are we going to get the money?

By bigd

October 8, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

I predict that (if) obama becomes president and his left wing redhoric fails ,and the next 4 years the u.s. goes down the crapper,he’ll blaim it all on Bush even though congress is still controlled by demos. Do you think he’ll get another 4 years on that same old line?

By Alice

October 8, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Truth, you are dead wrong, as usual.

You seek to bar equal rights, convert non-Christians, and legislate pro-life into law (where it has no place). The same is not true of non-Christians/ pro choice / homosexuals.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 8, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

It is a sorry fact of American political life that campaigns get ugly, often in their final weeks. But Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin have been running one of the most appalling campaigns we can remember.

McCain makes history….

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Speaking of issues:

SEC Chief urges Congress to Regulate Credit Swaps

Ok, he’s a little late to the game, but this is one of the big steps needed to stabilize things going forward. I don’t expect Congress to do anything this session without a gun to their collective heads, so expect the credit crunch to last into next year.

By Zach

October 8, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Bigd, your poor choices in voting have already put the US in the crapper, in case you haven’t been paying attention.

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

bigd: and I predict that (if) a giant meteor hits your house, that we will rejoice in Obama’s foresight to stick your house in the path of the meteor and elect him for four more years.

Feel better now? :)

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Let me guess, Christians of the Republican party faith believe that it’s OK for Sarah to come out and make statements like Obama is palin’ around with terrorists. Sarah and John are scum and yet they fit in so seamlessly with the rank-and-vile Republican leaders and their executive “friends”.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Alice… As usual? Do I know you? You must be in Wonderland. I think what makes you miserable is the fact that you dont have Jesus in your heart. I promise you that He makes thing soooo much less miserable! I am so saint by any means, but I know that when things get rough I have the most amazing man to ever walk the planet to turn to.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

According to a Drudge Poll, McCain won 68% to 30%, which I tend to agree with.

Liberals democrats are hacking email accounts of the opposition, stuffing the ballot box full of fraudulent votes and pulling the race card out at every turn.

Hell, they can’t even follow a debate format.

What makes you honestly believe that they would never fake some poll results?

The criminals are in charge of you, democrats.

By findog

October 8, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Mr. Bookman,

Did you flunk history class in high school?

President Nixon in 1968 he promised peace with honor through a secret plan. That plan was the original proposal of the communists in 68 but approved only after he secured a second term in 1972.

The sad truth is that America has always re-elected its war presidents. Thus why President Bush-II was determined to be a war president; he remembered how his father, President Bush-I, lost his reelection because he was too successful in Gulf War-I.

Senator McCain has a secret plan to win the Iraq war and if we elect him it will be concluded just after his reelection in 2012. If history teaches us anything it is history…

By mscutie78

October 8, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Thank you SouthernATL for the link - I’m amazed to see that McCain - a veteran himself got a grade of ‘D’ while Obama got a grade of ‘B’ - Way to support the troops John McCain!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

I forget which one of you bozo liberals I was arguing with yesterday over Real Clear Politics average poll results, but don’t look now, Oblahma is down to 4.7 from 5.5 yesterday.

Buh bye barry!

That woman is tearing your as-s up, ain’t she?

By getalife

October 8, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

How many times did you vote at the drudgepacker poll andy?

Its a joke like you.

By "The Corporal"

October 8, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Those who follow me a little on these blogs know that McCain was never my first choice but compared to Obama it’s still an easy one. However, based on the way he has refused to nail Obama for who he really is, what he really stands for and the danger he is to this Republic, he (McCain) would just have been a closet democrat/reach across the aisle/compromising President anyway.

I look at the Presidency through the lens of my lifetime. We may be losing or have lost the third quarter but there is one more quarter to play.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Yep, I just LUV polls. In fact, I just took one from thousands of thoughtless people. And now we must celebrate my indiscriminate poll I took at Democrat Headquarters. Here are the ASTONISHING RESULTS: 99% of the posters on this blog are liberal DEMOCRATS !!!

Even MORE ASTONISHING!! 99% are sure that Obama won the debate!! AMAZING!! We no longer need to VOTE. The election is OVER. We know who won..you know… What’s His Name!! OSAMA!! NO?? Oh, yeah, OBAMA!!! That one.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla - Midori - Jay - any other Obama supporter

Except Bosch..

I was watching for “oh really?” moments last night. McCain had a few. So did Obama, but since this is a blog with a blogfather’s who, I take it, is liberal/Obama supporter, I’ll seek an answer to an Obama concern. That most keep ducking.

From the debate transcript, provided by CNN:

[[Brokaw: Sen. Obama, let me ask you if — let’s see if we can establish tonight the Obama doctrine and the McCain doctrine for the use of United States combat forces in situations where there’s a humanitarian crisis, but it does not affect our national security.

[[Obama: Well, we may not always have national security issues at stake, but we have moral issues at stake…If we could’ve stopped Rwanda, surely, if we had the ability, that would be something that we would have to strongly consider and act. So when genocide is happening, when ethnic cleansing is happening somewhere around the world and we stand idly by, that diminishes us.

[[And so I do believe that we have to consider it as part of our interests, our national interests, in intervening where possible.

But understand that there’s a lot of cruelty around the world. We’re not going to be able to be everywhere all the time. That’s why it’s so important for us to be able to work in concert with our allies…]]

So there we have it. Our next President hasn’t defined “ethnic cleansing” or “genocide” (and last I read, the official UN position is Darfur is not a case of genocide) we invade. He’d rely on allies, but what happens when allies say “no thanks, you’re on your own”? We go in.

So we’re back to the US being the world’s policeman, imposing ‘good’ behavior on countries and cultures who frankly aren’t interested. And the international community as represented by the UN isn’t, either. So we will intervene and likely, as in Bosnia, have military stationed there for years and years afterward.

So, Obama supporters, is this what you want?

As a fun aside, by Sen Obama’s criteria, if the Bush Administration had not invaded Iraq and Obama then became President, Pres Obama would invade Iraq. According to Human Rights Watch, Saddam Hussein carried on a years-long campaign of genocide that killed hundreds of thousands of Kurds and others.

Is that a war you would have supported?

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

LGF poll

McCain 89.1%

Obama 18.9%

See how silly these things are?

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC: and of course you’re such a willing-to-suspend-reality fool that you would believe that all people who go to the Drudge site are a proportional sample of all people who vote for real. Real polling involves calling people and requesting their opinion. Drudge’s “poll” is a sampling of their closed universe of people who go to the Drudge site and click on their poll. If it’s such a great poll, what’s their margin of error in relation to the total population who will vote?

You are a cartoon. Wyle Coyote. And you’re running as fast as you can with no land beneath your feet, thinking you can get where you want to go without the help of solid footing. The perfect metaphor for your viewpoint.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

I got a good chuckle out of this one:

By Dawggy Style October 8, 2008 9:30 AM Doesn’t it seem strange that only 54% of CNN’s news staff would claim Obama as the victor? And over at CBS, my God, 26% of CBS’ employees actually sided with McCain!

How very true, my man.

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Dusty is getting a little hysterical this morning. Ease off on the coffee, girl.

By getalife

October 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

“Obama: Well, you know, Sen. McCain, in the last debate and today, again, suggested that I don’t understand. It’s true. There are some things I don’t understand.

I don’t understand how we ended up invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, while Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are setting up base camps and safe havens to train terrorists to attack us.”

When you have 3% of oil reserves but use 25%, they wanted the oil.

Unfortunately, the deals were signed with China and Russia. Of course, there were no meters so they probably stole millions of barrels.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

By getalife October 8, 2008 10:49 AM How many times did you vote at the drudgepacker poll andy?

See, al-Gitmo, this is the basic difference between democrats and Republicans, we actually have integrity. You can only vote one time at the Drudge poll.

Whereas democrats are out at this very moment teaching people to cheat the real vote using government grants to do it.

Believe me, there would be no investigation of democrats unless there is some serious evidence that they cannot cover up.

Criminals.

I know, I know, that was racist.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Now now ByteMe of the 99%, 10:57

It isn’t hysterics. It is JOY. McCain WON THE DEBATE. So there! Go drink your organic prune juice.

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Lucktroool remains optimistic @ 10.48: “I forget which one of you bozo liberals I was arguing with yesterday over Real Clear Politics average poll results, but don’t look now, Oblahma is down to 4.7 from 5.5 yesterday.”

Luckotrooool, gotta say it’s real cute how you’re clinging to those straws… But do you want to know how RCP rigged the tracking poll to read that way?

I know. And I’ll tell you if you’re real nice to me.

oh, and I would be remiss if I neglected to note Ird @ 10.22’s “Handshake, like the one he has extended over the aisle over the years maybe?”

We don’t get handshakes. We’re lucky to get a reach-around from McCain and the Republicans.

Gotta run, and put more food on my fambly. But Luckotroool, I’m serious, I will check back and if you ask nice I’ll tell you how RCP gave you hope!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

By ByteMe October 8, 2008 10:53 AM AJC/DNC: and of course you’re such a willing-to-suspend-reality fool that you would believe that all people who go to the Drudge site are a proportional sample of all people who vote for real.

Look up top, sicko, the kookman is quoting CNN’s poll.

CNN?

It doesn’t get any more biased than that, well, maybe PMSNBC, but whatever.

While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper’s news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.-University of Southern California.

By lrd

October 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

McCain supporters, please explain how McCain wanting to renegotiate mortgages and help people pay for bad mortgages is good for america? I thought the GOP was the anti socialist party.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

ByteMe,

The debate ended at 10:30 on the east coast and Jay posted this at 8:14 this morning. Just how representative a polling sample do you think was called during the intervening hours?

After the VP debate the CNN hostess asked for a show of hands as to who won in her viewing group. After 12 people raised their hand for Biden and 11 did for Palin she turned to the camera and announced an overwhelming victory for Biden.

By Eric1

October 8, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Obama may or may not be an unknown quantity, but one thing is for damn sure, there’s no way in hell that he could be any worse than the idiot who currently occupies the Oval Office…..I think he’ll do a great job, and it looks like he’ll soon get the opportunity. YES!!!

By getalife

October 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

No Andy,

You can vote as many times as you want on drudge’s poll.

Like RW said, it is silly.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

By hillbilly ragger October 8, 2008 11:04 AM Luckotrooool, gotta say it’s real cute how you’re clinging to those straws… But do you want to know how RCP rigged the tracking poll to read that way?

rag: Real Clear takes the results of every poll out there, even your fake ones, and averages the results together.

Even a dimwit like you should be able to understand this concept.

Least I think you should.

By Bosch

October 8, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

I think the last debate was pretty boring, and there was really no clear winner.

But not with this one.

McCain was at times painful to watch. The old coot couldn’t even sit down he was so nervous and right before Brokaw changed the topic to foreign policy, I remember thinking that McCain wasn’t going to make it without completely coming unglued.

Now, i loved it when he said he knew how to catch bin Laden. I really can’t believe he repeated that. I thought when he first said that, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt of saying something stupid, we all do, but he repeated it. Amazing. He’s really senile.

Admit it wingnuts, he’s completely out of touch with reality.

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 10:41 AM

They should have scrapped the format at the biginning. The debate might have been more interesting and revealing. Brokaw did a terrible job.

By getalife

October 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Two words you do not hear in the debates from John Sydney McCain III,

Middle class.

I know, I know, that was elitist.

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Dusty, I already said LAST NIGHT in another thread that I thought McCain won the debate, but only slightly and that means that the real winner was Obama, since McCain needed a game-changer and didn’t get it.

I don’t think the snap-polls after a debate are really indicative of much more than how certain people “felt” about the debate. It’s how it plays in the echo chambers around the water cooler over the next three days that really indicates who “won”. And winning a debate doesn’t really matter; Bush clearly LOST all three debates with Kerry and we know how that turned out.

My prediction is that McCain closes the gap by 1-2 points in three days unless McCain/Palin keep up the Ayers/et al attacks, in which case, Obama’s lead will grow by 2-3 more points.

But if you have a different analysis of how things went, do post it and show that you can provide something more than limited entertainment. I doubt it, but let’s see what you got.

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

I know how to get bin Laden and I have known for a long time because I have been telling you voters out there this very same thing for a long time now and IF and only IF you elect ME as your President, I will get bin Laden. Like I have said over and over and over, I will chase him all the way up to the gates of hell and take him down but only IF you elect ME. If you don’t elect ME as your President though, then you can all DIE at the hands of this terrorist for all I care. That about sums up McCain’s position on Osama bin Laden, right.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

October 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

The Kenny Rogers hit “The Gambler” was written by Don Schlitz. I always like to see songwriters given their due.

By getalife

October 8, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

If John knows how to get obl, why not tell w?

Why keep it a secret John?

Silly.

By @@

October 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

‘Ya know Paul, the point you made in your 10:53 was the one that jumped out at me in the debate.

McCain’s doctrine:

But it also has to be tempered with our ability to beneficially affect the situation. That requires a cool hand at the tiller. This requires a person who understands what our — the limits of our capability are.

We went in to Somalia as a peacemaking organization, we ended up trying to be — excuse me, as a peacekeeping organization, we ended up trying to be peacemakers and we ended up having to withdraw in humiliation.

In Lebanon, I stood up to President Reagan, my hero, and said, if we send Marines in there, how can we possibly beneficially affect this situation? And said we shouldn’t. Unfortunately, almost 300 brave young Marines were killed.

So you have to temper your decisions with the ability to beneficially affect the situation and realize you’re sending America’s most precious asset, American blood, into harm’s way. And, again, I know those situations.

Has ^^^ that not been OBlahMa’s mantra throughout his whole campaign? In OBlahMa’s words:

“We must be as careful pulling out as we were reckless going in.” or something to that effect.

A complete role reversal — McCain, the cool-headed strategist. OBlahMa, the “hot-headed” moralist.

Who wouldathunkit?

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 10:48 AM

It was me. Looks like the Ayers drum beat was paying off in the polls, and then the attention-seeking senator and celebrated ex-POW had to take the stage.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

The real highlight of the debate was referenced above, but it was when Obama and McCain first came out to shake hands and Brokaw freaked out because they were blocking his teleprompter.

Too bad we didn’t know in advance that was going to be the highlight.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: I just voted at Drudge for the first time and when the page refreshed there was no more “vote button.”

Anymore questions?

By Bosch

October 8, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

RW,

That was a funny moment. I thought Brokaw did a good job though. He cut Obama off once when he was about to pounce on something McCain said. And he kept reminding them of the time limits, which I was glad of.

You really hate teleprompters don’t you? :-)

By Bud Wiser

October 8, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

I plan to travel to as many states as possible, wear some disheveled clothes and hang around under bridges or wherever with a half empty bottle of Jack Daniels in my hands, and wait to be brought to a registration/polling site by Obamaniacs, and then vote in as many elections as I can.

It can work.

ACORN has shown how to do it in Washington, Oregon, Ohio, and Nevada.

Wait a minute….aren’t they now under federal and state investigation in those locations for potential voter fraud? I read a piece yesterday that out of the first 1600 new registrations in Washington state, investigators found only 6 were legitimate, and amongst the fraudulent ones were duplicates, and the entire Dallas Cowboys football team names.

I knew that originality wasn’t a trait of liberals, but really, the Cowboys? The Redskins are taking the East this year, they should have gone with a winner. But, this is the same party that gives us Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Joe Biden, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, William (Cold Cash) Jefferson, Al Gore, George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Howard Dean, Dennis (I Wanna Be a SpaceMan) Kucinich, Chris Dodd, Barbara Boxer, Richard Durbin, Russ Feingold, Chucky Schumer, Diane Feinstein, John Kerry, Patrick Leahy, Claire McCaskill, Harry Reid,so what should one expect?

Wow. That’s quite a list of the losers and dregs of humanity all rolled up in one long sentence. I’m tired.

Obama/Biden - ‘08 making it easy to be stupid

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid

By Tom

October 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

McShame as always, spoke in riddles and circles. But he ALWAYS must somewhere refer to his POW “hero” status. Only GI in American history to do that. Pitiful little man. And it…works for the rancid masses.

By getalife

October 8, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

What poll andy?

It is gone.

Silly.

By Trudge Droll

October 8, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Ah HA! You see, the VOTE button is no longer there. So, that proves that the poll is representative of the voting public and therefore McCain wins by a landslide. The crowd jeers. Andy is an idiot.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

I hear that Bud Weiser…. The Skins are creeping up on the whole league. As long as Portis keeps healthy, JC stays consistant, and that Defense keeps playing stellar, then this could be the return of the Redskins. I just wish Joe Gibbs could be apart of it.

Oh…. and you know you are being racist talking about ACORN like that. Watch out!

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

I don’t really mind them for newsreaders and Brokaw actually had more of a really cool tele-wall. What I don’t understand is how a professional broadcast team didn’t see that coming in advance. Where did they think the guys were going to greet each other?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tom,

Here’s the transcript.

Care to find the part that backs your 11:39? I searched, POW, Vietnam, and prisoner with no results. Hero doesn’t get you anywhere in a search either.

By E

October 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

I noticed something in the Town Hall debate last night that struck me as being very off, so I watched it again and saw it for the second time.

When Obama began to answer the question regarding health care as a commodity - McCain appears in camera view behind him facing towards Tom Brokaw. He used his hand to make a slight cutting motion in that direction and it struck me as very odd. After that topic was finished, Brokaw stated that they were going to change to foreign policy.

Obviously this was set up before hand and shows how biasd Brokaw really was although it didn’t help at all.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By mm

October 8, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Don’t blame the poor

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

RW: It wasn’t a “telewall”, but a hole in the wall. Every now and then, you could see someone moving around in there or adjusting the camera. Was just a giant black rectangular hole. The camera+teleprompter were back there along with an operator and probably other people.

E: He could also have been signaling to kill his mic so he could cough.

By CommunistAJC

October 8, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

JAY HACKMAN, Gee, CNN and CBS gave Obama Hussein the victory? Wow, I never would have guessed two, in the tank media outlets, would have given Obama Hussein the victory. I’m so glad my money is not wasted in paying your salary. Hack!

Now, for anyone who can actually think for him/herself. This is a must read from someone who actually knows how the market works. How Obama Hussein will sink prosperity in this country.

Prepare for the Worst

By Peter Ferrara

Just two weeks ago, a book on economic policy was released that will be a classic for the ages. Entitled The End of Prosperity, by Art Laffer, Steve Moore, and Peter J. Tanous, the book explains in full detail the economic disaster that will befall America if it takes a sharp left turn to neo-socialism under the leadership of the far left President Barack Obama, the ultraleft Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid with 60 liberal Democrat Senators, and their pal the ultraliberal Howard Dean heading the Democrat party.

Indeed, one of the insights of the book is that a major factor already tanking the stock market and leading foreign capital to flee America is the threat of the economic policies promised by Obama. Obama proposes increases in every major federal tax, on savers, investors, employers, small business, big business, and anyone who would start a business. Obama also promises to add additional federal spending of almost $1.5 trillion over the next four years, including a new global war on poverty in which Obama would tax Americans and send the money to the UN to spend worldwide (already introduced by Obama in legislation). That would be on top of all the spending increases already scheduled for our exploding entitlements and other programs. Obama also promises a massive increase in regulatory controls, even though government regulation is already estimated to cost America over $1 trillion per year, about $8,000 in lost output for every U.S. household. Then there is Obama’s attack on free trade and promises of protectionist trade policies that contributed so much to the Great Depression.

As the authors show, these retrograde economic policies are intellectually indefensible. They do not offer forward looking change, but would take us back to the policies of the disastrous 1970s and even worse 1930s. They would ultimately produce a deep, long term decline in America’s standard of living, particularly for the middle class and working people. America would actually fall behind countries around the world that, exactly contrary to the left wing swing of the Democrats, have been racing to adopt precisely the hugely successful Reagan supply side policies of low tax rates, less government spending, deregulation, and anti-inflation monetary policies.

The Reagan Economic Boom When President Reagan entered office in 1981, succeeding Jimmy Carter who had an overwhelmingly liberal Democrat Congress, the American economy was in shambles. Inflation had reached 11.6% in 1979 and 13.5% in 1980, a devastating 25% increase in prices in just two years. The prime interest rate had reached 21.5% in 1980, with home mortgage interest rates soon climbing as high as an absurd 14.7%. Unemployment began an upward climb during the Carter years that eventually peaked at over 10% in 1982.

The poverty rate actually started increasing in 1978 during the Carter years, eventually climbing by an astounding 33%, from 11.4% to 15.2%. A fall in real median family income that began in 1978 snowballed to a decline of almost 10% by 1982. Average real family income for the lowest income 20% declined by 14.2%. Indeed, during the Carter years (1977 to 1980), real income declined for every quintile, from the lowest 20% to the highest 20%. Real average income of U.S. households was, in fact, in a long-term decline, down rather than up from 1970 to 1980.

The Reagan economic policy to reverse this economic devastation consisted of the following:

This was the most astoundingly successful economic policy in U.S. history, turning around a rapidly declining economy into a raging economic boom. The Reagan recovery started in official records in November, 1982, and lasted 92 months without a recession until July, 1990, when the tax increases of the 1990 budget deal killed it. This set a new record for the longest peacetime expansion ever, the previous high in peacetime being 58 months.

During this 7 years, the economy grew by almost one-third, the equivalent of adding the entire economy of West Germany, the third largest in the world at the time, to the U.S. economy. In 1984 alone, real economic growth boomed by 6.8%, the highest in 50 years. Nearly 20 million new jobs were created during the boom, increasing U.S. civilian employment by almost 20%. Unemployment fell to 5.3% by 1989. Also in that year, labor force participation reached a record 66.5 percent, and a record 63 percent of the population was employed. Black labor force participation also hit a record 64.2 percent in 1989, with female labor force participation reaching an all-time record of 57.5 percent in 1990.

Real per capita disposable income increased by 18% from 1982 to 1989, meaning the American standard of living increased by almost 20% during the boom. The Carter decline in income for the bottom 20% of income earners was reversed, with average real household income for this group rising by 12.2% from 1983 to 1989. The poverty rate, which had started increasing during the Clinton years, declined every year from 1984 to 1989, dropping by one-sixth from its peak.

The shocking rise in inflation during the Carter years was also reversed. Spectacularly, inflation from 1980 was reduced by more than half by 1982, to 6.2%. It was cut in half again for 1983, to 3.2%. The prime rate was cut by two-thirds by 1987 to 8.2%, on its way down to 6.25% by 1992. New home mortgage rates also declined steadily, reaching 9.19% by 1988, on their way down to 8% by 1992. Note that opponents of the Reagan tax cuts had argued that they would increase interest rates.

The stock market more than tripled in value from 1980 to 1990, a larger increase than in any previous decade. Real personal assets rose by nearly $6 trillion, from $15.5 trillion in 1980 to $21.1 trillion in 1990, an increase of 36%. Total real private net worth rose by $4.3 trillion from 1980 to 1989, totaling $17.1 trillion in constant dollars, an increase of one-third.

Even with the Reagan tax cuts, total federal revenues doubled from 1980 to 1990, growing from $517.1 billion to $1,031 billion, or just over $1 trillion. In Reagan’s last budget year, fiscal 1989, the widely overballyhooed federal deficit had declined to $152.5 billion, about the same as a percent of GDP as in 1980. 2.9% compared to 2.8%. By 1989, the Soviet Union was collapsing. Reagan had won the Cold War without firing a shot, completing the most successful Presidency in U.S. history.

The 25 Year Reagan Boom Laffer et. al point out that this Reagan recovery grew into a 25 year boom, with just slight interruptions by shallow, short recessions in 1990 and 2001. They write:

They add, “The economy in real terms is almost twice as large today as it was in the late 1970s.” Moreover:

In addition, “A poor family in 1979 was more likely to be rich by the early 1990s than to still be poor.” The authors cite a Congressional Budget Office study, backed up by a later Treasury Department study, finding that “from 1994 to 2004 Americans in the bottom 20 percent of income actually had the highest increase in incomes.” The authors continue,

Or, as Nobel Prize winning economic historian Robert Fogel wrote in 2004, “In every measure that we have bearing on the standard of living…the gains of the lower classes have been far greater than those experienced by the population as a whole.” Under Reaganomics, the rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten richer too.

The Kennedy Tax Cuts Reagan was not the first or the last to adopt sweeping tax cuts to boost the economy. It has happened four, perhaps five, times in the last century, with virtually the same results every time. One of these was adopted under President John F. Kennedy, who cut the top tax rate from 91% to 70%, seeking as well a 30% across the board rate cut for everyone else. Compared to national income and the total budget, the Kennedy tax cut was three times larger than the Bush tax cut, which only reduced the top tax rate a measly 4.6 percentage points from 39.6% to 35%. Kennedy said,

Kennedy also said, “It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today, and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the tax rates….[A]n economy constrained by high tax rates will never produce enough revenue to balance the budget, just as it will never create enough jobs or profits.”

In response to the Kennedy tax cuts, the economy grew by 10% in just 2 years, with the annual economic growth rate increasing by 50%. More than 1 million jobs were created in the following 4 years, and unemployment fell to its lowest peacetime level in more than 30 years. Federal income tax revenues grew by 41% during those 4 years, with U.S News and World Report saying, “The unusual budget spectacle of sharply rising revenues following the biggest tax cut in history is beginning to astonish even those who pushed hardest for tax cuts in the first place.”

The End of Prosperity Laffer et al. explain why they think the end is now near:

Obama promises across the board tax increases, America’s corporate tax rates are already the second highest in the industrialized world, prices are already rising and the dollar is declining, America is turning its back on free trade, the federal budget is already spiraling out of control and entitlements threaten far worse, regulations already strangle energy production, producing high energy costs for the economy, cap and trade global warming regulations threaten to shut the economy down, unions calling for legal powers to force unionization, the left campaigns for costly but low quality socialized medicine, these are all indicators of a fatal economic heart attack for America. Laffer et al. explain what is behind the current financial crisis:

The threatened left-wing economic policies are all the more dangerous now because the rest of the world has shifted so sharply towards much lower tax rates and free markets, threatening to leave America in the dust as an uncompetitive wasteland mired in nostalgia for socialism. Since Reagan, income tax rates across the industrialized world have been cut by more than one-third, and corporate tax rates have been reduced by one-half. The flat tax has been adopted in 24 countries. Putin adopted a 13% rate for Russia that raises more revenue than the former system with a 50% top rate. From 1978 to 1998, China reduced its tax burden by two-thirds. A recent study found that “supply-side” countries that have cut their tax rates almost in half since the 1990s have grown three times as fast as countries that have raised taxes since that time.

It is, frankly, obvious that lower tax rates increase incentives for economic growth and productive activity, and that higher tax rates reverse such incentives. Nor is it hard to understand that increasing regulatory costs will slow the economy while reducing such costs will expand it. Obviously, ample supplies of low cost energy will help the economy, shortages of high cost energy will kill it. High government spending is clearly not good for the economy, lower government spending is. We know how to create an economic boom, and we know what policies will lead to economic disaster. The Left denies these obvious truths only because it craves more government power. If America does not wake up to what is happening, there will be much suffering through a long dark night.

Peter Ferrara serves as Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy for the Institute for Policy Innovation, and General Counsel of the American Civil Rights Union. He formerly served in President Reagan’s White Office of Policy Development, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under the first President Bush. He is a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School.

By Jen

October 8, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

AJC-person,

I took a look at the RCP tracking poll you mentioned that went down by 0.8 points overnight.

Well, I have to call you on that. The poll from yesterday didn’t sample from the exact same set of polls as the tracking poll from today did.

For instance, yesterday’s tracking poll average included Rasmussen and today’s doesn’t. Furthermore, yesterday was the first day, I believe, that Rasmussen showed Obama up on McCain, a 4 point turn around from the previous Rasmussen poll.

So, sorry, that claim you have that Obama’s lead is shrinking doesn’t hold based on your evidence.

It’s bad evidence.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

@@ 11:24

Another Party role reversal: McCain said he’d cut Defense. Obama didn’t - sure, he talked about going ‘line by line’ through the budget, but he would not commit to Defense, specifically. Maybe he has a clue what all those peacekeeping invasions and basings are going to cost.

Feels more and more like the Twilight Zone - especially since Democrats seem happy with it.

By ButtHead

October 8, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

The winning or losing of a debate is always subjective to the person that is listening. If you want the red meat you really need to look at several things then decide. Who will steal less of my pay check? Who will do away with earmarks? Who will balance the budget? None of these questions where answered so as far as I am concerned nobody won the debate and the American people all lost…

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Im’ back and Luckotroool, you didn’t ask nice, so now I won’t tell you. I will tell you that I’m well aware of RCP’s poll-of-polls methodology.

RW @ 11.52 I’ll back you up—McCain didn’t go to the POW well this time.

And I felt the way he handled the Navy guy’s question near the end was perfectly reasonable.

On the other hand, I thought McCain’s explanation for “bomb bomb Iran” was pretty damn weak. It’s still joking about incinerating people, whether you’re “joking with an old veteran friend” or not. But it beats telling people to “get a life” for criticizing him over it, which was his first response.

For those of you clinging to these silly ACORN stories, answer me this—where have any of these phony registered “voters” actually tried to vote?

Obviously those workers who submitted phony records should be punished. Nobody’s denying that. It’s hell and gone from what’s actually happened (in a very few instances) to what’s being alleged, that Democrats are systematically committing “voter fraud.”

But do go ahead, make it seem all sinister ‘n stuff. your base eats this stuff up.

By Voter fraud

October 8, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Take note of the last line. Low life government dependent bottom feeder parasites who have no idea what redistribution of wealth means other than they will get more $$$$ will get Obama elected!!!!

It’s a shame votes are not weighted based on a voter being legal, having an income, paying taxes, and making a contribution to society!!!!

Ohio Homeless Driven to Polls to Vote Obama Tuesday, October 07, 2008

CLEVELAND — Volunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.

The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the state’s elections laws that allows people to register and cast ballots at the same time without having to prove residency.

Republicans have argued that the window could lead to widespread voter fraud because officials wouldn’t have an opportunity to verify registration information before ballots were cast.

Among the volunteers were Yori Stadlin and Vivian Lehrer of the Upper West Side, who got married last week and decided to spend their honeymoon shepherding voters to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections.

Early today, Stadlin’s van picked up William Woods, 59, at the soup kitchen of the Bishop Cosgrove Center.

“I never voted before,” Woods said, because of a felony conviction that previously barred him from the polls. “Without this service, I would have had no way to get here.”

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Jeff Jacoby in the Boston Globe points out that Obama’s position is quite a shift from last year.

But that wasn’t how Obama sounded last year, when he was competing for the Democratic nomination and was unbending in his demand for an American retreat from Iraq. Back then, he dismissed fears that a US withdrawal would unleash a massive Iraqi bloodbath. “Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep US forces there,” the AP reported on July 20, 2007 (my italics)

What kind of candidate is it whose moral response to genocide - genocide - can reverse itself 180 degrees in a matter of months? Is that the kind of candidate who ought to be the leader of the free world?

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Jay,

One of your resident maroons, that would be the devout and proud of it Communist… at 12:01, is trying to take over your job.

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

hillbilly: what the people spouting about ACORN in NV fail to mention was that the decision to raid ACORN there was brought by Democrats. Of course, they’ll twist their little pants in a knot trying to explain that little fact away….

By CommunistAJC

October 8, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

ButtHead, Four years ago polls had Kerry ahead by as much as 15 points. We all know how that turned out. Polls are about as relevant as cassette tapes. I love reading polls that say 80% of Americans love this or that. Then, when you read the fine print at the bottom of the story, it says that 1000 people were polled and out of those people, 800 of them were democrats. Fair? Balanced? I think not. People like Jay constantly get everything wrong. Democrats are worried right now because Obama has not broken over 50%. That is NOT good news for them. And yes, the American people have been losing. Its both sides fault but the blame has to go to the democrats because they are in charge of the house and senate. I find it funny that just over two years ago the economy was fine and the Dow hit over 14,000. As soon as the democrats took charge everything went down hill from there.

By Homeless Repug

October 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

I’ve been hanging out with the homeless in Ohio and we’ve been getting free food, reefer and rides to the polling places from some liberal group called Acorn, every time they drop me off over there, I vote straight R.

Don’t you just love the secret ballot?

As many times as they’ve been by this week, I figure I’ll have a hundred votes in for McCain by the time November rolls around.

By Southern ATL

October 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

TO mscutie78 October 8, 2008 10:48 AM

I am disappointed because when a person joins the military they swear in and promise to serve their country “SO HELP ME GOD”. Most take that commitment VERY seriously. There are so many that have to serve so far away (stateside and overseas) from their families. Sometimes it gets to be depressing but you always try to keep the MISSION FIRST. After serving and coming back to the civilian world, there are high hopes that all of the benefits that were promised will be there. To see that politicians are maneuvering the laws of the G.I. benefits is disgusting!

By CommunistAJC

October 8, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer, I have a great job. But thanks for trying. You should apply for a sanitation job. I hear Obama is hiring plenty of sanitation workers to shovel his sh#$!

By Paul

October 8, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Maybe it’ll sink in: Obama, as President, has defined a situation in which he’d conduct preemptive war.

[[Question: If, despite your best diplomatic efforts, Iran attacks Israel, would you be willing to commit U.S. troops in support and defense of Israel? Or would you wait on approval from the U.N. Security Council?

[[ Obama: We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists.

And so it’s unacceptable. And I will do everything that’s required to prevent it.

And we will never take military options off the table.]]

So: A nuclear Iran is unacceptable. Obama will not allow Iran to get a nuke. He will try diplomacy, but if that doesn’t work… he will do everything that’s required to prevent it. Military options aren’t off the table.

“Prevent” means in advance of. It means they’ll never be permitted to obtain them. Which means we take action. If diplomacy fails, there’s only one option. War.

Again I ask: are Obama supporters pleased with this?

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Communist…, I am sure you do believe that being a Communist is a great job. Have fun with that. By the way, McCain mentioned something about his comrades last night. I’m sure you were right on top of that as well.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 12:09

You aren’t saying that Obama will say whatever he has to say to get elected, are you?

Jay: does this constitute a ‘lie’? If Obama knew when he said genocide wasn’t a good enough reason, that he really thought it is, as he said last night, well… or, has he changed his mind? If so, any idea what new information or understanding led to the change? Votes?

RW - now I suppose we have to get ready for all the progressives to start posting “Obama flip flop Obama flip flop.” Those posts will go on forever..

By GMAN

October 8, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

My wife and I had our popcorn ready at 9pm last night and watched Senator Barack Obama rip the “old coot” a new one on national TV. Mr. Magoo just looked old, sick, wornout, and confused. He reminds of a washed quarterback that resents the fact that someone younger and smarter has taken his job. Jed Clampett is living so far in the past that he probably was room-mates with his idol Teddy Roosevelt. Elly Mae Palin talks a lot of trash at her KKK rallies but would scream sexism at the very notion of someone calling her out as the brainless beer-swigging trailer-park militia b1tch she is. There are just four more weeks until the end of an ERROR!

Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s futures.

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Let’s do it the Maverick way. All together now. Bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran. I’m the Maverick so yes I can.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

GMAN… You need to get rid of your Clayton County mentality….

By Abomi Nation

October 8, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

“Democrats are worried right now”…….LMAO!!!!! In Republican Fantasyland maybe!

Investment yields during the Bush years:

Cd’s- 3.5%

Internet Savings account: 3.0%

Regular savings account: .75%

Juniors Piggy Bank: 0.25%

Bush Stock Market: -5.0%

Lottery tickets: -10.0%

Now’s your chance McCain! Where’s your bold new plan that allows people to invest some of their Social Security money into Piggy Banks! Sure would beat the Bush Stock Market.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer 12:38

Care to reconsider that in light of my 10:53 and 12:21? Seems from the statements of Obama and Palin that the Democratic Party has become the new War Party.

By atlsitcom

October 8, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

i just dont listen any more, they say say say, but when they are there, they always do nothing…

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

ByteMe,

Would you mind passing along some evidence that the decision to raid ACORN in Nevada was made by Democrats?

Thank you in advance.

Paul,

Obama WILL say and do anything to get elected. If McCain has any interest in winning that’s where he needs to attack.

By Skeptic Tank

October 8, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

McTerminal for President?

John McCain has not aged well since 2000. Last night, I saw a very old man, stooped and plodding, telling us that HE is our future. No disrespect intended, but Mr. McCain is not MY future. The rigors of the presidency will age the man at an accelerated rate. Folks, the last thing we need is a part-time President, spending half his time in bed with a thermometer in his rectum.

We need fresh blood, a viable workhorse, to turn our nation around. McCain is not a visionary; his ideas are as old as his body. I urge people to look beyond party politics and vote for the candidate who will survive his term in office.

By Shawny

October 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

THAT ONE is going to get elected, and we are screwed.

It will be NEW DEAL II…not enough money for college, the govt will cover it. Not enough money for healtcare, the govt will cover it. Bad debt, the govt will cover it. Need income, SS will do.

Who needs a job? Who needs responsibilities? Those are overrated.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer

Make that “Obama and Biden.” Must’ve had that Leno clip on my mind…

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

No Paul, I don’t care to take back anything. Why would I want to take back a simple fact.

By Peadawg

October 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Amen, Shawny @ 12:47 PM

Nobama ‘08

McCain/Palin ‘08

By Paul

October 8, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer

McCain was singing a song. Obama has laid out an entirely plausible scenario (acquisition of nukes by Iran) in which he’d go to war. Even if Iran never attacked us (that’s preemptive).

He also spoke of invading other countries if we don’t like what’s going on within their borders. Even if allies won’t go along.

He’s also laid out circumstances in which he’d conduct warfare operations in Pakistan.

You got quite excited over a song rendition, I thought maybe you’d get excited over actual statements of intent.

By E

October 8, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

McNasty’s “That One” comment last night in the Town Hall debate was so bizarre. Especially in light of his refusal to look at Senator Obama in the first debate.

Then there was his rudeness to the black man in the audience. He said the guys probably hadn’t heard of Fannie or Freddie and that he would help the old white guy stay in his home.

What, he wouldn’t help people like the black guy?

He seemed to have a problem with black men. His contempt and dismissive manner all speak of bigotry.

Is McCain a racist?

You betcha!

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Dear ByteMe, 11:16

You mean you don’t read Bookman’s blog for entertainment? R U serious? Look at GMAN@12:32. You take that stuff as COGENT?? Without prejudice??

Well, look and learn ,ByteaBIT, and post. But would you mind throwing in a joke or two? Something better than GMAN’s old line end of an error! Thank you.

By the way, McCain won the debate as he will the election. Americans will take the sensible soldier over the nebulous neophyte anytime. Doesn’t matter if McCain is an “elder statesman”. He IS BY FAR, the BETTER PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL in this match.

By Skeptic Tank

October 8, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

With control over the Congress from 1994 through 2006, why didn’t the Republicans act to end the welfare state as we know it? With Bush poised to sign any legislation that crossed his desk, why didn’t the Republicans put their money where their mouths are and dismantle the very structure that they rail against each and every day on talk radio and internet blogs?

Were they afraid that the Democrats would fuss?

Sorry, folks. Republicans live to pontificate, but are reluctant to act. They can stink up a joint with their complaints, but they seldom deliver on their promises.

I guess it just gives them fodder for tomorrow’s episode of the Rush Limbaugh show.

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Right Paul. Of course everyone just randomly starts singing tunes of war, death and destruction because they’re the farthest thing from their minds. Get real, Paul. Stop defending the indefensible.

By ButtHead

October 8, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Obama has the best economic advisors in history, they have collectively stolen billions from Americans, and I can’t wait to see how much they steal when Osama is president. OOppps did I say Osama, you know who I mean…

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Dear Paul@1:05

Your optimism is unlimited. You really think these “born again liberals” are going to get excited over actual statemnts of intent instead of a song rendition?

I guess I “see through a glass darkly”. I’m afraid we are face to face with folks who don’t know the difference between facts and folly. I think it is described as “blind as a bat” and hellbent.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

E@ 1:05

You are ONE, a “one” stirring the old cold dead racism pot to gain a few points.

There was NO racism in that debate. There is some in your mind. Please keep it to yourself as we don’t need it.

By gadem

October 8, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

About 40 minutes had passed after the debate had ended and Obama was still on the stage talking to the people from the town hall. They were crowded around him and it was very intriguing. Obama was there trying to win votes. Trying to talk to them about their problems.

Not long after I noticed it, Anderson Cooper mentioned the same thing. I think Obama won a few votes after the debate. Those are the things voters care about IMO. Taking time out to find out what are every ones concerns.

I think McCain left fairly quickly after speaking to a few participants.

By @@

October 8, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Paul:

Sorry for the delay in my responses. I’m updating some student assessments. They happen often in special ed. Progress is fast and furious at times. Tough start this year with 5 newbies. Two of us (teachers) share the same classroom……we always get the newbies with unbelievable challenges in behavior. We’re both exhausted.

Another Party role reversal: McCain said he’d cut Defense. Obama didn’t

I think McCain’s aim was more at corrupt wasteful spending within the DOD which would, result in substantial savings in defense spending. One of the things that impresses me with McCain is his record on wasteful spending — no pork for Arizona. What better place to start than with the politicians who got us into this economic mess. I don’t care who they are.

Message to Washington from @@: If we’re gonna be paying the bill, then show me a product worth buying. Fried pork rinds ain’t my thang. CUT THE GOVERNMENT WASTE.

I saw a little of the old McCain come back last night. At this late stage, he’s got nothin’ to lose. Be yourself, I say. Go in or out on principle. That’d be more than OBlahMa’s done or is doing.

His CHANGING image is what prompts me to ask the question “Who is this man, Barack?” If leftists had half the brain they claim to have, they’d be asking the same question. He was everything they thought he was until he became someone they know not.

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

OK, Paul and Dusty. Say it loud and say it proud. President Obama. Commander-In-Chief Obama. You know you love it. Come on now, admit it. It has a nice ring, doesn’t it. Further, if he takes the country to war, you war-mongering Republicans won’t even know that anything has changed in your lives, will you. Especially you, Dusty. You can just keep on telling us about that fine family tradition of serving under Commander-In-Chief Obama.

By fearless fosdik

October 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

By CommunistAJC

October 8, 2008 12:16 PM

COMMIE…Please cite your reference as to your statement… “that Four years ago polls had Kerry ahead by as much as 15 points.”

I’ll bet there will be no answer forthcoming!

By @@

October 8, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

What’s with all the hooplah about the “That One” comment? When I heard it, I thought of it as an older, wiser father type referring to a younger, inexperienced youth likely to adopt the risky behavior of his peers — remembering the adage “If your friends jump off a cliff, do you follow them?”

Growing up in a family with four kids — my Dad a military guy, he’d often refer to my only brother (older) as “That One” think……………

By fearless fosdik

October 8, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

By @@

October 8, 2008 1:25 PM

@@ Unless you work at a private school then I believe we as taxpayers are paying your salary….So get off the internet and go back to work….You are a waste of taxpayers money!

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

RW: sorry for delay on your request for a citation. Was off getting lunch.

ACORN Nevada Office Raided

Agents removed 20 boxes of documents and eight computer hard drives from the ACORN office in “an ongoing investigation,” said Secretary of State Ross Miller, a Democrat. “Now we begin the task of sifting through the material that was seized to determine how widespread any fraud might be.”

There’s more in the article.

By @@

October 8, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

fearless:

How many times must I mention that I DO WORK AT A PRIVATE SCHOOL? Sometimes long days, sometimes short days, sometimes no days. One of the many things I love about my job — not only do the kids surprise me, but sometimes they’re short (day) on surprises and sometimes they aren’t there to offer any at all.

Never knowing what tomorrows bring is just the way I like it.

What is it with you libs……do you lose information with all your brain farts?

By Jim

October 8, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t be suprised if McPalin/Bush lost Georgia and took Saxby Chambliss down with them. That would really be an indictment on the last eight years of inept Republican rule.

By @@

October 8, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

And another thing fozzie……….

have you ever thought about GETTING a job? Get one while the gettin’s good. OBlahMa will soon be putting business out of business with his tax increase.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t be suprised if McPalin/Bush lost Georgia and took Saxby Chambliss down with them. That would really be an indictment on the last eight years of inept Republican rule.

By E

October 8, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

The Britney/Obama/Paris ad is clearly racist. It links Obama with sexually active young white women. The ad deliberately omits Nicole (the mixed race woman who routinely partied with Paris and Britney). Even McCain’s mother was wondering why the ad did not include all three.

The GOP attacked the Tennessee senate candidate Harold Ford Jr. in a similar racist fashion. They ran TV ads of a young white sexually active woman saying she wanted to party with Ford.

The McCain camp is deliberately stirring up racial hatred.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Jim

October 8, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t be suprised if McPalin/Bush lost Georgia and took Saxby Chambliss down with them. That would really be an indictment on the last eight years of inept Republican rule.

By No_Osama08

October 8, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

It truly frightens me how many empty headed liberals are so ga ga for Obama, a man with no experience other than community organizer and someone that hates America. This country is doomed!

By E

October 8, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

I am deeply disturbed by the devices Palin is employing in her speeches.

She questions Obama’s patriotism because he won’t insist that we must “win” the war; she keeps using the term “exceptionalism” to describe the U.S.

When a politician lacks intellect, the ability to speak eloquently (or even coherently), and the ability to remember facts in order to create cogent arguments, s/he turns to devices that appeal to crowds on an emotional level.

The problem is that it can bring out the very worst in human behavior. That is why it isn’t surprising to me that someone in her crowd would yell “Kill him!”

Obama/Biden ‘08

By JW

October 8, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

I question the mind of some of you Obama bashers. You speak of socialism, the country going down the tubes, and a lack of experience. Have you read a paper or watched the news lately? we have a big hole inthe ground in NY that sits like an open wound, we opened up the treasury to save the “free marketeers”, we are five years into a 6-month war, and unemployment is at an eight year high.

If that is what you want, please, by all means support McCain-Pallin. You don’t deserve any better.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Dusty 1:14

I find it all quite jarring, really. Here we have a candidate who got his start as the anti-Iraq candidate because it was the ‘wrong’ war conducted for the ‘wrong’ reasons (WMDs). I think many interpreted that as Obama would be extremely reluctant to employ the military in many situations. What we’ve found, though, is quite the opposite. He and his running mate seem quite willing to conduct warfare operations in a variety of situations, preemptively, in countries that do not want us there and in situations where our national security is not an issue.

But somehow McCain is the unstable warmonger with a trigger temper who will rush us into a war. Even though, as in last night’s debate, he clearly laid out that there are fewer circumstances that he’d be willing to use military force than would Obama.

And all I hear from Obama supporters is silence – or ‘well, McCain sang this song.’

@@ 1:25

[[I think McCain’s aim was more at corrupt wasteful spending within the DOD which would, result in substantial savings in defense spending.]]

And McCain would know where to look, wouldn’t he? Do we really think those retired generals and admirals advising Obama are going to say “President Obama, I know I got these stars and all, but now that I’m retired, let me tell you of some of the unbelievably wasteful, stupid things that go on in the Dept of Defense”?

Taxpayer 1:26

I do think there’s an excellent chance Obama will be elected. What concerns me are the ways in which his views and those of his running mate aren’t all that different from those of the Bush Administration.

Have you stopped to think of how many thousands of troops Obama will have to add, and how many thousands of civilians and bureaucrats to support them, and how many billions they will cost, for all these ‘humanitarian’ operations?

By fearless fosdik

October 8, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

By @@

October 8, 2008 2:07 PM

@@..NO, I haven’t thought about getting a job! Actually I’m quite comfortable….

After working for the past forty plus years + serving as an officer for 6 years in the armed forces I believe RETIREMENT was my due!

By the way @@ my daughter is a child psychiatrist in the Greely, Colorado school system!

Another thing @@ is I don’t spend my entire life on this blog .. So if you explained your position Prior to my post.

Perhaps I was in some foreign port or city enjoying my fruits of labor!

By JW

October 8, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

@@ Nice try, but that excuse doesn’t float. You should have waited for your real Daddy’s @ Fox to come up with a more believable scenario.

BTW, I am from a family of eleven, my Father was a drill instructor, he NEVER referred to me or any of my nine brothers as “that one”. You know exactly what he was trying to do, you are just in denial.

By No Bama/No McCain

October 8, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Anyone who thinks the dirt and mudslinging of this campaign is worse than previous ones either wasn’t around or old enough to pay attention or has been living under a rock.

This style of campaigning has become the norm, don’t forget what Hilary had to say about Obama when she was campaigning against him….

If and when Obama wins this election…let’s see in a couple of years how much whining and complaining about what a mess we’re in takes place…oh no never mind we’ll still be blaming it all on Bush.

Many Dems have a selective memory when it comes to their participation in the events leading up to this housing/financial mess we’re in. It’s easier to blame the Repubs. This mess got a good start with Carter and then Clinton, then the NINJA loans pushed through by a Dem Congress & Senate. Bush didn’t help matters by being asleep at the switch.

I’m sorry to say I voted for all three of the fools. Maybe I just won’t vote this time…

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Have YOU stopped to THINK of where we are right now, thanks to the Republican party. Save it for your kids, if you have any. Thanks but no thanks, Paul. I’ve had enough of the Republican party to last me for years to come. You feel free to go right on believing in them though just as long as you want. After all, this is still the USA in spite of the Republican party’s efforts to change that.

By No Bama/No McCain

October 8, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Anyone who thinks the dirt and mudslinging of this campaign is worse than previous ones either wasn’t around or old enough to pay attention or has been living under a rock.

This style of campaigning has become the norm, don’t forget what Hilary had to say about Obama when she was campaigning against him….

If and when Obama wins this election…let’s see in a couple of years how much whining and complaining about what a mess we’re in takes place…oh no never mind we’ll still be blaming it all on Bush.

Many Dems have a selective memory when it comes to their participation in the events leading up to this housing/financial mess we’re in. It’s easier to blame the Repubs. This mess got a good start with Carter and then Clinton, then the NINJA loans pushed through by a Dem Congress & Senate. Bush didn’t help matters by being asleep at the switch.

I’m sorry to say I voted for all three of the fools. Maybe I just won’t vote this time…

By Shawny

October 8, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Obama is not going to curtail govt waste. It goes against his party’s mantra. Note CAGWs new report on the military spending bill.

“The military construction bill included the following earmarks:

$30 million by Senate Appropriations Committee member Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) for an access road at Pohakuloa Training Area. Sen. Inouye requested $17 million for the same project in 2006. $27 million by Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) for a fuel system/corrosion control hangar at Yeager Airport. $18.4 million by House Military Construction/Veterans Affairs Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman Chet Edwards (D-Texas), including $17.5 million for a chapel and education center at Fort Hood. $12.5 million by Representative Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas) for the first phase of a medical parking garage at Fort Bliss. $3.9 million by Representatives Robert Scott (D-Va.) and Robert Wittman (R-Va.) for a vehicle paint facility at Fort Eustis.

Citizens Against Government Waste is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to eliminating waste, fraud, mismanagement and abuse in government.”

By tcoach

October 8, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Why has there been little if any mention that Obama last night said that health care is now a RIGHT.
That seems to have worked for Europe and all. Joke-

Do all of you Obama supporters seroiusly want the Government, remember our congress, to be the people who decide if and when you get treatment. Talk to people on peachcare they don’t like it. So go on and vote for Obama, then you and Jay can have a new past time. Counting all the freedoms and decisions our government decides we cannot make anymore.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

ByteMe,

Thanks. Yesterday’s wire service reports said the raid had been done by the FBI so it didn’t make much sense that it was Democrats.

Go figure the wire services couldn’t even get that right.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer

You obviously haven’t read my many criticisms of the Bush Administration. My point, though, is that in at least one significant area (employment of the military) Sen Obama seems to have more in common with Pres Bush than does Sen McCain.

And that is troubling.

By Shawny

October 8, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Obama got himself further down the list, but is quite the piggie himself. Note McCain is at $0. That is the 2008 report.

Here is a 2007 report that will make you barf.

By Shawny

October 8, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

and every one of these senators should get canned. That Harry Reid shows up on the oinker awards every year. So does that cat from HI and the one from AK.

By mm

October 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Shawny,

It would be hard for McCain to vote for pork when he hasn’t voted but once or twice all year. Nice try, though.

Paul,

Nobody wants to debate about your lame argument about starting a war.

I would support war if it was based on actual fact and was for a just cause. Like Afghanistan.

Unlike the Iraq war, which was based on lies.

I’m sure many Obama supporters agree.

By Ricardo

October 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Nothing can be more amusing (or ironic) than Palin telling us “we don’t know enough about Obama”

Not only has PA, OH, VA, NV, and NC gone to the Obama column, but he may yet get IN and MO. Face it.

By GeezG

October 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

MM - I suppose being for Obama being “present” does count…

By GeezG

October 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

MM - I suppose for Obama being “present” does count…

By GeezG

October 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

MM - I suppose for Obama being “present” does count…

By Dan

October 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Actually ricardo Palin is the perfect voice, for questioning what we know about O, he has been in the the race for over a year and in a few short months the media has dug twice as deep on Palin, cause well we all know why.

By Taxpayer

October 8, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Obviously, Paul.

Now repeat after me, Commander-In-Chief Obama. President Obama.

Say it loud and say it proud, Paul.

By Paul

October 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer

Sen Obama likely will be the next President. Are you completely comfortable with his and Biden’s pronouncements on how and when they will use the military either in support of non-national security issues or in support of national security issues (preemption, invasion).

It’s a simple question, one I find ardent Obama supporters remarkably unwilling to address.

By Hmmmmm

October 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Ricardo

You need to stop drinking so EARLY…… Obama loses by a landslide! The people of this country will NEVER vote a Socialist into office…… But hey, you guys/gals keep drinking the kool aide your drinking.

By catlady

October 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Dusty, although there are plenty of other reasons to avoid voting for McCain, two soundbites (four little words) will fell him. Know what they are? “Sarah Palin” and “That one”.

By catlady

October 8, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

One thing about our new President: He will almost HAVE to look better than “that one” we have now!

By Hmmmmm

October 8, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Catlady that goes without saying, you libs vote like your voting for the new winner on American Idol….. It doesn’t really matter what a person stands for or what convictions he/she may have. We vote for him because he seems popular, and he LOOKS really good in a suit! He should make an excellent President!

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 8, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

My favorite tactic from those on both sides - in the debate and on this blog - is to simply restate what you wish your opponent had said and then shoot that down - Straw man I believe it was called in my logic and critical thinking class.

Logic and Critical Thinking - should be mandatory education before anyone gets a chance to cast a vote.

Now I am done with this blog thing I can get back to my favorite hobby of completely idolizing myself - peace

By Danny the red

October 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Hey, how come DRUDGE rhyme with SLUDGE ?

By Kevin

October 8, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

For those of you Obama supporters, I sincerely hope you are working for companies that are recession proof. If President Obama has Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid pass all of his spending plans and other portions of his economic plan, do not be surprised if we are in a very deep recession where unemployment is above 10% and you lose your job.

By catlady

October 8, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Hmmmmm (can I call you Hmm? a la Sarah Palin) tell me what McCain stands for/what convictions he has that can be supported UNEQUIVOCABLY from his previous actions. It has to be something that he stands for that all his previous behavior shows he truly believes. Please.

By Danny the red

October 8, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Kevin: “For those of you Obama supporters, I sincerely hope you are working for companies that are recession proof.”

Ah but my friend, you assume that one would only want to vote for someone for reason’s of self-interest.

Have you not stopped to consider prudence that goes beyond the self ?

By Hmmmmm

October 8, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Catlady, You can call me anything you like.:)) I would just hope that everybody is well informed about each and every candidate. I find it hard to believe that any “patriot” would vote for a candidate who believes that it is the Governments right and obligation to take from one and give to another…. Besides the fact that your man Obama has little or NO experience has nothing to do with his love of Government, and his self proclaimed will to administer more government control. Granted he is a smart man,very eloquent in speech making, and he astonishes all when speaking from a podium behind a teleprompter. The bottom line is that Obama is left of the most left, the democratic party has become a mockery of political ideology. Tragically my only option is to cast a vote for McCain, who is not much better. I am truly hoping that Gov. Palin will rise to the top, as she is really the only outsider that connects with the common American! I think/hope that she is not corrupted by the Washington political scene. Otherwise we are stuck with a political system that is BROKEN, and NOBODY wants to fix it.

By Denny

October 9, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Thank God the brown stuff only floats to the top in the so called “news”.. it belongs in the septic tank and will return there after Nov 4 when the real people elect John as the man that can handle the mans job..The dumb boy needs to go back and help his half brother in the pig pen called AFRICA.. George Bush did not put him there, so that is one mortgage he is not responsible for to pay for the disfunctionals that cannot comprehend the english language and simple interest math..OSAMA OBAMA is a scumbag..thief..liar..and low life terrorist..and needs the acorn stuffed up his black a….for leading a bunch of felons to get votes. Typical OSAMA OBAMA!!