Jay Bookman

By Ray

October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Bookman.

Don’t know what debate your were watching but McCain hit a home run. I cannot imagine an Obama presidency.

By Just_Me

October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Flipped to CNN to watch that hypnotizing line graph at the bottom.

Very high when Obama spoke, mediocre when McCain spoke.

LOTS of buzz already about the finger thrust and the “that one” comment already. That is going to bite McCain. Commentators are saying that McCain’s ‘distain” was showing.

Distain my backside. How about blatant DISRESPECT?

His (McCain) anger was barely contained.

I LOVED when he finally hit back with the “Understand” comment—-

McCain didn’t do as well in “his” format, did he?

By Goldie

October 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

Tonight, Barack Obama showed America once again that he has the composure, temperment, and tenacity to be OUR NEXT GREAT POTUS.

Obama\Biden For America!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

No kidding, in 2000 Barak Obama couldn’t even get into the democrat convention.

His credit card was rejected.

During the last 8 years, years in which he calls “failed” and have made the United States “diminished,” he and his wife have both been paid millions and he stands on the stage of the presidential debate.

What a fake, ungrateful lowlife talking points regurgitator this maggot really is.

But he is your maggot.

By Just_Me

October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

…pundits are saying McCain didn’t perform as well as he needed to. Repubs strategists are saying Obama was stronger…..

william bennett- and yet one more repub said obama was stronger and mccain didn’t do what he needed to do.

By Goldie

October 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Even Pat Frickin Buchanan says that, in contrast to McBush, Obama looked “very presidential” — another home run for the Obama Team! My, my…

By "The Corporal"

October 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Debates actually mean very little. The real question for the Presidency is the type of advisors you will surround yourself with for those crucial situations.

Having stood post outside that Situation Room door in the basement of the West Wing that makes this election an easy one for me.

By J$

October 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

obama is ruining “the speech”

has there been more than one?

you better attack Palin some more.

By AmVet

October 7, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

Mr. Bookman, I agree that both men were VERY unimpressive.

And I too thought Sen. McCain looked tired. His age may finally be catching up with him.

Given that, I think his chances would nonetheless be good except for one huge tactical blunder.

Caribou Barbie.

The thought of her leading the greatest country in the free world rightfully scares the hell out of the average rational American.

I fear the RINO’s candidacy is all but done….

By Goldie

October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Let the whining begin, Repug trolls!

Y’all may as well start practicing saying these words: “President Obama” and “Vice-President Biden.”

By RW-(the original)

October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Obama clearly won the debate and if I were inclined to vote Democrat I would just go on vacation the first week of November. There’s no need to vote whatsoever.

Obama may well be the most dangerous candidate ever, but McCain may well be the worst candidate ever.

God help us!

By Midori

October 7, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

also from Pundit Land:

McCain is nothing but a *ussy. He hides behind Palin’s skirt - sends her out to attack Obama, but isn’t man enough to do it himself.

Never brought up the “terrrorist” slime.

Maybe he should go back to Viet Nam and get a tune up? That last line was from me.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 7, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

What is really funny is this - the small businesses that make less than 250K a year DON”T HIRE employees - those that do, need additional workers.

Guess what, if you are a business owner making 500K a year, you are used to living on the 250K you keep - what happens when your taxes go up and you lose more income? You trim costs (cut payroll), or you charge more for your services. That’s it.

Tax increases decrease revenue to the government, it happens every single time. But don’t let a think like history interrupt the election of the biggest socialist in american politics - four years from now he won’t even be able to get a job as a fry cook at McDonalds…

By N-GA

October 7, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

McCain’s arrogance and desperation bubbled to the surface. If the people didn’t know what he was made of before now, they sure saw it tonight.

By Ted Striker

October 7, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

Sounds like AJC/DNC Management dude is frustrated again because his candidate is circling the drain…

By atlpaddy

October 7, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

I have two questions. Is AJC/DNC Management over the age of thirteen and is he mentally stable? Seriously dude, go get a job and chill out.

By Midori

October 7, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

And this just in from Freeper Central:

Well, folks. I’m going to go pray now. Good night

don’t know but I’m pretty sure Obama’s gonna be in the Whitey House

Poor Sarah must be cringing :(Thank God this blood letting is over with. I’ve got a feeling you’re going to see some long faces on Fox and some high fivin’ on the other networks. And you can’t blame them.

Had to make one more post. Maybe McCain KNOWS Obama’s Kenya birth certificate is about to surface. Forgive me but I’ve got to hang onto SOMETHING!

come dec 09, we will be a twin sister country of Cuba

I wish this was Petraus and Sarah vs. Obama and Biden

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My Dad just called and offered me stiff drink at his house….I won’t be driving back to my place tonight…

By David

October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Obama still answered questions more directly than McCain, for the most part.

Favorite line: “Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran!”

By mike hussein smith

October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Obama and his wife made their money by working for it. He held two jobs — professor and legislator — as well as using his God-given talent to write two books that actually sold. That is where most of the Obamas’ money came from.

For a real good time: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

By G

October 7, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

I heard McCain say this one time before. I heard him say it again tonight.

He knows how to get bin Laden.

Why, why, why has he not shared the information? It has been seven (7) years since 9/11.

Is he just waiting, hoping to win the Presidency, and then he will get bin Laden?

What kind of monster is he?

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

Ok, so lemme get this right, I haven’t been on here in awhile, buuutttt….. From what I just heard Oblamah, he’s gonna ground Iran. I’m speaking in mom terms, since I have a few heathons of my own. First, I’ll take away your Disney Channel., then your webkinz, then phone, then your Littlest PetShops, then your mattress, then you only can wear one pair of clothes, then ultmatley your food. Then what do kids (Iran) do??????? Hmmmmm…..Lets build a nuke! Or kill the parents…..

By AmVet

October 7, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

To you ignoramuses who still apologize for Bush, understand this clearly.

It is arguable that this Republican administration is the primary reason that this, or any other, GOP candidate will likely lose this election

Ironic isn’t it fools? Your boy Bush killed your bas@rd step-child boy McCain…

By ByteMe

October 7, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

McCain’s “that one” comment will hurt him with swing voters.

Oddly enough, I thought McCain did better this time with his delivery and his points, but he just doesn’t connect with the audience so well. Even the FOX focus group was down on McCain.

Obama was as good as he usually is when doing public speaking (take that you “needs a teleprompter” morons!). He was on point and on message, so he didn’t hurt himself, which was really the only thing he needs to do to lock this up.

I give the debate edge to McCain, but nothing happened that will change the game, so Obama is still the winner.

By "The Corporal"

October 7, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

The greatest threat to this country right now is the ignorance and apathy of the American people as we sit on the brink of becoming a totally socialist country coupled with the possible election of Barack Obama as President of the United States.

All great civilizations have basically crumbled from within.

By Midori

October 7, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

G,

McCain can’t even find the toilet at night.

By Young'n

October 7, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

I just wish McCain would answer the questions put to him instead of pulling Palin. Remember the “list the three in order of importance” question?

Actually, come to think of it, Obama did it too, but not as bad or as noticeably.

Ah well. If anyone Obama won, but like Bookman said, maybe they both lost.

By G

October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

McCain should thank God tonight that Senator Obama declined to go on the Town Hall tour with him.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By David

October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

AmVet, you’re right on.

Molly Ivins may be smiling from the afterlife knowing that her allegory of Bush being the dead chicken wired to the GOP voters necks certainly came to fruition.

By Midori

October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

Oh Corporal,

put down that joint.

By mike hussein smith

October 7, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

it definitely went to Obama. I was watching cnn with its squiggling lines marking responses for men and woman. It was flat line city on several occasions for McCain. Basically, though, this was a crummy debate. I don’t understand why the debate commission thinks there is something sacred about questions sent in on the Internet. And Brokaw, born February 6, 1940, in Webster, South Dakota, was impossible. First he decided to break the rules by asking followup questions, then he began to scold the candidates for trying to answer them.

By GodHatesTrash

October 7, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

Midori, one day next week Hensley-McCain is going to crash another taxpayer jet, this time over North Korea. He’ll be captured by Kim Jong Il, make a propaganda video for them, and Palin will take over the ticket.

Ted Nugent will take over the VP slot.

By Abomi Nation

October 7, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

WHAT AN OUTRAGE!!!!

I demand my early voting ballot be destroyed. NOW!!!! As an AMERICAN I demand the right to a new ballot.

I voted for John McCain on Monday. What a mistake that turned out to be. I got call from a few of my friends that also voted early for McCain, we’re going to court to see if we can have our old ballots overturned. McCain was old and horrible in that debate. Re-votes are certainly in order. I’m going to sue dammit.

Why me??????????????

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

At least Oblamah didn’t answer every question witn “I agree with John”. He just agreed with him without saying his name, oh, and also didn’t answer any question directly. Talk about an empty suit….. Full of hot air.

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Mike Hussein—- That was your first mistake, watching CNN. Check on Luntz report or fact check. CNN sucks…..

By Fierce Dawg

October 7, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

if i wanted to be a socialist and have the government rule my existence, i’d turn communist and leave america….

i dont like either, but i dont like obama more. however, i am starting to reserve myself to the fact that the man is gonna win….americans are too dumb. they like him because he bashes Bush.

By barbara streisand

October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

I was going to vote for MC Cain but now I’m going to vote Obama!

By G

October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

Midori, you and Goldie have kept me laughing tonight.

Thanks, and good night.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Political Mongrel

October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

McCain has said over and over that he knows how to fix things. It’s a damn shame that he never tells what those ways are. Obama is specific and detailed in what he would do. Those who have actually read what he says and what he’s advertised know this. The ones who listen only to sound bites, pundits, and FoxProp don’t because they haven gone to the source, only his enemies.

The wheels came off when McCain said tonight after another “I know how to fix” that his method would be to set up a commission to study the problem and advise. In other words, he doesn’t know and would turn the solution over to the only known animal that has a hundred bellies and not brain.

By Political Mongrel

October 7, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

McCain has said over and over that he knows how to fix things. It’s a damn shame that he never tells what those ways are. Obama is specific and detailed in what he would do. Those who have actually read what he says and what he’s advertised know this. The ones who listen only to sound bites, pundits, and FoxProp don’t because they havent gone to the source, only his enemies.

The wheels came off when McCain said tonight after another “I know how to fix” that his method would be to set up a commission to study the problem and advise. In other words, he doesn’t know and would turn the solution over to the only known animal that has a hundred bellies and no brain.

By mike hussein smith

October 7, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

And of course the NKoreans will lock a missile on him, but McCain will refuse to dodge it.

Did he totally snub Palin? I recall references to Liberman, but none to her.

By @@

October 7, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

I thought it was pretty much a wash. Same questions already asked and answered. Shoulda cut the public some slack — they deserve it after everything they’ve been through.

McCain was able to hit some pertinent points that reflected badly on OBlahMa. How do I know? OBlahMa was frustrated when Brokaw didn’t let him respond. Spent most of his time on the next question reflecting back to the previous one he wasn’t allowed to respond to.

I didn’t like McCain’s plan to buy up the bad mortgages and renegotiate loans at the deflated value.

McCain’s responses on military action, sovereign nations and strategic interests were better than OBlahMa’s.

Hell, McCain came off looking like the cool-headed leader while OBlahMa looked like a hawk with a broken wing.

That’s how I saw it.

Goldie:

Downstairs you said Ayers’ comment was that he didn’t do enough to “stop the war.” He set off bombs with the intention of stopping the war so…………?

Dumb blonde liberals, no challenge.

Outta here. Work tomorrow.

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

Hey Barb Streis…. I’m gonna cancel out your vote and go McCain… LMAO! Don’t bother

By AmVet

October 7, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

I feel confident when I say that we all love this country deeply.

And I will die being proud that I was fortunate enough to be born an American.

But I must say that I cannot in good conscience vote for either of these men. Particularly Senator Obama.

With that said, I will support either one, whoever is elected. Unless and until they demonstrate like the current president did, that they have thrown away the good will of the American people.

So Lady Liberty will carry our common torch forward, doing much good and some bad.

And no matter who sits in the White House, this nation will endure.

And to paraphrase a previous US President, Gerald Ford, “Come January 20, 2009, our long national nightmare will be over.”

By getalife

October 7, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

They lied and did not have the guts to tell the American people we are back to daddy bush’s recession and the markets will correct accordingly.

The McCain proposal to buy mortgages is weird.

Good counter on telegraghing punches from Obama.

They both want a green energy boon which is good.

Stump speech stuff was boring. No Ayers or Keating.

By Bosch

October 7, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

And there’s the best point of the night…..

McCain says, “And THAT ONE”

Ugh.

McCain lost big time. It was at best a tie, but the old fool couldn’t even sit down because he was so nervous.

Oh, i can’t wait to see the battleground polls by the end of the week!

By mike hussein smith

October 7, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

cnn reports 54-30 split in favor of Obama

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 7, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this

I truly weep for the future - I told my daughter today that she should probably start learning a foreign language and plan on relocating somewhere else, because this country is finished - we are headed for a fifteen year depression if that moron gets in - and we will probably never recover. All of you mindless trolls and gnomes voting for him - The AJC said today that over 90% of black Georgians are going to support him - how sad is that? What, is he promising to get whitey for you? Is he promising to make sure those lucky few who studied and sacrificed and took risks don’t get anything you don’t get, because we all know that sitting around all day eating bon bons and watching Oprah can be so taxing?

He said that American’s have a RIGHT to healthcare !?!?!

I am sorry, I thought we all had a RIGHT to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness…. I must have missed the whole, healthcare “RIGHT” debate….

I guess all of Americans have RIGHT to rob their neighbor for whatever they want too?

What about a RIGHT to a Ferrari? A RIGHT to a Rolex? A RIGHT for a 60” Plasma?

Alexander Tyler once said in his post mortem on the Athenean Republic that a Republic can only stand for approx. 200 years because after that the citizenry discover they can vote themselves money from the public trust and they bankrupt the treasury. Looks like we are about 32 years overdue….

By GodHatesTrash

October 7, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

Corporal’s paranoia - a socialist under every bush.

Psst - Corporal - Charlie’s in the trees!

By Helen Crane

October 7, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

What did we hear? buy out home mortgages for another 300billion- and this is the penny pincher Republican? This Republican thinks bailing out people that buy what they cannot afford is not being an economic conservative. He is desperate to win I realize but that is just ridiculous.

By Midori

October 7, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

McCain came across as a doddering, bitter old man.

By Ray

October 7, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

Was that blonde chick McCain’s nurse and did she make him leave prematurely because he needed his diaper changed?

By f pakistan up

October 7, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

how was obama going to capture osama?

obama gets osama ‘09

By Dusty

October 7, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

McCain looked like a winner to me. He knew what he was doing and knew what he was talking about.

If you want a movie star, elect Obama.He’s youthful, well dressed and knew most of his lines although I thought he mixed up the names of Iran and Iraq a couple of times.

If you want a real President, elect McCain. He is strong, determined, experienced and intelligent. Americans would never doubt that the President was working for them. Our allies would breathe a sigh of relief to have such a man as President, not a neophyte like Obama.

Backing up McCain would be the smart and energetic Sarah Palin. That is a winning team and just what America needs. Experience and integrity with fresh energy and determination.

I really fear for our country if Obama is President. Not only is he inexperienced, he is a radical in past experience and has not changed although he tries to say that he has. There is too much in his past to overlook. Too much power to give to a man with so many shadows in his life and socialistic policies in mind.

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Oh yea, Oblamah knows, it’s gonna come on 1/22/09, right after inaguration day. “Dear citizens, thanx fo the vote, I really didn’t know that the deficit and the economy was that bad, unfortunatlly, I’m gonna have to increase more taxes than I had anticipated while I was running fo office. It was easier to promise while Bush was in office and things were bad, and y’all thought he was the bad guy, sorry, bout that. I was trying to please Miz Pelosi, which y’all luv, right???? Hang on y’all, we’ll get this party rockin’ prolly ‘round 2010 when election is up again, hope I can keep it in my pants!

By MG Owens

October 7, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

boring, boring…surely the candidates’ advisors can come up with some specifics on the big problems in the economy, health care, foreign policy…maybe they don’t want to because they fear that specifics may lose votes…McCain is just a bad-tempered old man and Palin a right-wing whacko…will vote for Obama and Biden and hope

By CwnBt

October 7, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

“THAT ONE” voted for a bill loaded with pork. “THAT WAS” the most important point.

By mike hussein smith

October 7, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this

Jenn — thrive on your ignorance. go ahead, see if I care

By Mark

October 7, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this

I liked Bookman on Good Times better. He was smart,fun loving and not such a tight a**,hand wringing,self loathing liberal.

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

Hussein Smith—- What exactly is it that you do????? Are you affected either way? I know I will be.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 7, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

There will be no other cold war because we will be Russia-West - All hail Commandant Obama, or is that Emir Obama?

I am unsure what scares me most - his obvious disdain for the people that actually create jobs in America, his love of socialism, or his ties to a racist church…. or is it his rumored Islamic past? I know, it’s that fact that idiots who drive blue Lamborghini’s to voter drives and issue such proclamations as “50% of American families are out of work” and idiot’s whose production companies are named after Marx brothers are so for him.

I get it, Oprah loves Harpo and Obama loves Karl…

Do we get to add a sickle to our flag? At least we will get big east german type man-women to win all of our Olympic events now!!!

Rest in peace comrades, I am sure your premier is assured his election. And I am also sure that he will raise people from the dead and personally defeat Satan since he is obviously the second coming.

By Ray

October 7, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t the bailout loaded with pork and didn’t McCain vote for it?

Does McCain know he voted for it? Did they tell him? Does he remember? Or did Cindy vote, being that she apparently carries all the water in that family?

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Well said, Dagny…..

By Georgia on my mind

October 7, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

God help America if Obama is elected. It will be racism on every issue and at every turn. Why in this great country was there no one of presidential quality to stand for election?

By Zeb

October 7, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

MG owens, why are u such an idiot??? Which debate were u listening to?? What both of them did was give a poliical answer at this time in the race. And why do you think that Palin is a right wing wacko?? You must be a left wing nut job you moron. Please give me ONE argument that you have and I’ll bust your liberal azz on it. Are you skeered??? Me and Sarah would kick the crap out of your tree hugging, obama loving, enviromentalist, green azz “I want Hillary” idiot woman views. I can’t stand women like you. And MG….if you’re a man…..you pu$$y…..you sound like a woman. Go to Victoria Secret and buy your underwear.

By Jenn

October 7, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this

If I’m not mistaken, Obama voted for that pork filled bailout as well, lets not point fingers, children…..

By Neal Harris

October 7, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

Sen. Obama seemed to be more tuned to the imperatives we face as we recognise what Thomas Friedman calls the “Energy Climate Era”. McCain, a good and decent man, seemed less so tonight. But the economy will dictate the outcome. We have some unpleasant days, months, maybe years ahead to recover from the policies of the last 14 years. Yes, the last four years of Clinton’s term saw changes in the federal regulatory structure that, combined with the rudderless leadership of Bush/Cheney has resulted in the near destruction of Alexander Hamilton’s vision. I am always amazed at the support McCain finds among the southern demographic that has suffered most under policies that are the foundation of Mcain’s philosophy.

By David

October 7, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

Yes, I think Americans should have a right to healthcare.

Only a smug Republican would compare that to a Rolex or a Ferrari.

It can be done. You should check out FrontLine’s expose, “Sick Around the World.”

By Neal

October 7, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

Sen. Obama seemed to be more tuned to the imperatives we face as we recognise what Thomas Friedman calls the “Energy Climate Era”. McCain, a good and decent man, seemed less so tonight. But the economy will dictate the outcome. We have some unpleasant days, months, maybe years ahead to recover from the policies of the last 14 years. Yes, the last four years of Clinton’s term saw changes in the federal regulatory structure that, combined with the rudderless leadership of Bush/Cheney has resulted in the near destruction of Alexander Hamilton’s vision. I am always amazed at the support McCain finds among the southern demographic that has suffered most under policies that are the foundation of Mcain’s philosophy.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 7, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

I have TWO question for all of you Obama supporters. I really would like to have an honest answer…

What is it that makes you feel that you and your kind have a right to that which is not yours?

Why would you vote to use the military police state power of the government to steal from me and my children, when you don’t even want to pay your share?

Why would you say, I know you worked hard, sacrificed almost everything in your life to earn a living, and have consistently made good decisions and I know you already pay the highest tax burden in the country, but I think you shouldn’t be able to use the money you earned to care for your family, and I think I should be able to steal from you and give it to myself and I will use the power of the government to steal it from you. WHY?

Why don’t you get off your lazy a* and try to do something on your own to earn more for yourself? And if you fail, why don’t you try again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, until you figure out a way? That’s what the people you want to punish most have done…. Is it that it’s too hard, that you are too stupid, or are you just lazy and ignorant, and find it easier to lead a life of crime…. Oh wait, that’s right, I remember New Orleans…. never mind.

By Alec

October 7, 2008 11:54 PM | Link to this

Palin is a nutcase. Love the video with the witch doctor. Anyone with that much “faith” needs to be put away.

By Fierce Dawg

October 7, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

david, if you want to the government to take care of you, head over to russia.

By Alec

October 7, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

Speaking of lazy and stupid, Bush has had more time off than any other President. He’s awesome. No wonder he’s your d*mn hero.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

October 7, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

Going to the candidates debate Laugh about it, shout about it When you’ve got to choose Ev’ry way you look at it, you lose.

Paul Simon

By Abomi Nation

October 8, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this

Hey Republicans, you keep mentioning different dooms day scenarios that will occur during Obama’s Presidency but to forget one of your biggest nightmares.

How about one of you cry us a little whine about how all them new Supreme Court Justices are going to be all liberal. Uber liberal at that. Gosh you almost did it! You almost stacked the court with conservative activist judges. Shucks.

Pleasant dreams!

By pofo ho

October 8, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

zzzzz

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 8, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

Alec, Bush is not my hero, and I am no republican - I view this election as a choice between a repeated kick in the groin (McCain) and a gunshot to the head (Obama).

McCain will be painful, but Obama will be fatal. I wish we had other choices, and I considered voting for Barr - but I am a pragmatist as well - I refuse to flush away a vote on principle.

I long for leadership as does everyone else - I don’t like socialism and I worked 80 hour weeks for months on end to start and build a business - I didn’t get a paycheck, I had to go make it happen - that is sacrifice - and I failed many times before I succeeded - that’s tenacity - but I didn’t run around boo-hooing, blaming my failure on everyone but myself - I got p** off and said, dang it, if someone else can do it, I can do it, and I am going to keep trying until I get it right.

I have a problem with the entitlement mentality that everyone seems to have these days. You CAN afford a college education, if you want one - you can get a job delivering papers in the morning and pizza’s at night, and go to a state school like GSU in the afternoon, if you really want to. I know.

You sacrifice a little now to get a lot later - and then some yahoo like you comes along and says that I am a smug jerk because I think I am entitled to what I worked for.

Yet, if you get laid off tomorrow, it’s your jerk boss, it’s the economy, it’s sending jobs overseas, or it’s something else, but it’s never you. Here is a newsflash - IT IS YOU. You have the right to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness - Go pursue it, go make your dreams come true, and then see how you feel when you do it and someone else says, well - now I want you to take care of me -

By Zeb

October 8, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

Dagny, I hope you’re a woman cause I think I just fell in love. Tell your husband I’m sorry. It’s people like us that understand the economy and what it takes to get sh!t done!!!!

What makes me mad as hell is Obabma’s playing the idiot dumbass democrats and McCain’s group is not rolling out the real deal on what is really going on with the economy and the truth about the housing market. I’m so sorry for you liberals out there……I know you’re smart, and think you make good arguments…..but please give me a logical talking point that supports your position. Not speculation…..or something by a liberal columnist at the AJC or the NYT. Let’s go……have at it.

By Neal

October 8, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

A healthy economy thrives in a system where there is a balance of government regulation and freedom of markets to find an equilibrium. Deregulation has upset this balance. Even the founding fathers understood that, sometimes the federal government needs to lay a hand on the economy. Here’s a history lesson:

In 1790, Alexander Hamilton understood the importance of a strong federal economy. In his first report on the public credit he proposed that the federal government assume the debts that the states and private citizens had incurred during the Revolutionary War effort. Also, to repay foreign loans. The Congress approved the repayment of foreign debts but was slow to approve the domestic assumption plan. An economic depression ensued. Ultimately, Congress agreed and the result was a strengthened economy, strengthened because it not only freed up the capital of states and capitalists, but also the sale of bonds gave states and citizens a vested interest in a central government.

By mcdonoughgirl

October 8, 2008 12:34 AM | Link to this

McCain spoke to Obama and the audience with the tone I use when explaining a complex concept to a preschooler. His condescending tone was disrespectful and elitist. Obama addresses others with a higher level of respect. The American people notice the difference. The Commander in Chief needs to be intelligent, curious AND possess superior communication skills.

By Zeda

October 8, 2008 12:34 AM | Link to this

Here is another way to look at the Presidential TV debates. Just suppose that the best person at talking and memorizing their lines on the stage is NOT the best person for the job? How good would Abraham Lincoln debate on TV? How about Franklin D Roosevelt? Can you imagine them on stage? What if their opponents “did a better job” on stage than they did? If the American public wants TV debates, why don’t they have George Clooney and Mel Gibson up there? They can memorize lines. Heck - they are STARS!! But could they lead the country? Suppose someone were really capable of being a GREAT leader, but didn’t look so pretty on the stage and didn’t speak as well. Would the media hyenas tear Abraham Lincoln and FDR apart like they are McCain and Palin? And what’s this about WINNING the debate? Would you go to a doctor that talked well, but had never done the surgery he wanted to do on you? Let Obama WIN the DEBATE, but “ELECT McCAIN for PRESIDENT”, THE best man for the job!! His family is not Muslim. He didn’t get money from unknown sources (multi-billionaire Saudis), McCain hasn’t pledged allegiance to the Mother Country of Africa for 20 years, he doesn’t have a terrorist as a best friend, and McCain is a real American. Let the young people who have never seen a war go back to their video games until they grow up!!

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 8, 2008 12:36 AM | Link to this

Sorry Zeb - I am not a woman - - - I just imagine that, since I am an unaborted adopted baby, perhaps my real parents were Dagny Taggart and John Galt - - - hence the name.

I am not for a totally unregulated society Neal, I understand the need for safeguards - but, I don’t understand how we are at a position where we have one political party trying to create a shift where the bottom 55% or so of all citizens pay NO income taxes - that leads to an ability to push any tax increase that you want on the remaining 40% or so of wage earners with virtually no fear of retribution.

Despite what most liberals on this site (and practically every other place on earth) think, we are NOT a democracy - majority does not rule - we are a Republic, that is a nation built on the rule of law - in a democracy, two lions and a zebra get to vote on what’s for dinner, and the government can’t stop it - it’s a horrible form of government, and one that was even looked down on in our military guidebooks until the early 1930’s…..

By mcdonoughgirl

October 8, 2008 12:40 AM | Link to this

Hey Zeda, let me remind you that wars are always fought upon the backs of young people. Your right, they don’t always understand war, that is how we can trick them into signing up at 18, 8 years before their brain is finished growing and hey are smart enough to realize that the young and poor fight the philosophical battles of the old and wealthy. Furthermore, dedication to world progress, instead of blind America only ambition, is a more effective way to end terrorism. Poverty and inequality, war and pain feed terrorism. We can play ostrich or see how this REALLY occurs and that means investing in the futures of African and Asian children. Its just like vaccinating everyone against small pox. It spread in poor populations, but even the rich could die from it. A whole world perspective saves us all.

By J$

October 8, 2008 12:42 AM | Link to this

geez. you be ill’in

god bless america, my home sweet home!

these mongrels have just taken over.

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 7, 2008 11:52 PM

You’re right tho, we need to instill a work ethic in our children that aren’t getting it in their culture. It’s a monumental challenge with no easy answers. It has to start with educating the very young, and life-long learning has to become our standard if we’re going to compete and thrive in the global economy.

By fredmars

October 8, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this

I thought John McCain did a wonderful job of channeling Vizzini from the Princess Bride. He was positively gnomish and nearly as clever! It’s a shame that his verbal coherence is fading, otherwise he’d be a shoo-in for the remake.

OK - that has nothing to do with the debate, but holy cow, it was boring! Obama had the more commanding and “presidential” presence (whatever that means). Neither said anything new - McCain’s “buy troubled mortgages” proposal is already in the bailout/rescue package, but he probably didn’t read that, since he couldn’t get around to reading the original 3-page proposal. Neither blundered or drew blood.

Tie goes to the leader.

I hear the diva warming up!

By Neal

October 8, 2008 12:49 AM | Link to this

Agreed. The tax code is a mess and, given the financial distress in the world, it is ridiculous for either candidate to talk about tax cuts for anybody. McCain’s talk about cutting taxes endangers the economy with more and more red ink since spending never gets cut regardless of party. Obama’s talk about raising the capital gains tax and reinstating the estate tax endangers both my wallet and the family legacy. Ever feel as though you are on the horns of a dilemma?

By Neal

October 8, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this

You may just want to put away that copy of “The Fountainhead”. In these times, you’ll just be frustrated.

By Chris

October 8, 2008 1:07 AM | Link to this

Obama talks up the troops during the debate but when he was in Iraq he didn’t bother to go see those recovering in the hospital b/c he couldn’t bring his media servants. I will never vote for this arrogant elitist who gets economic advice from the ousted Fannie Mae head who took “early retirement” with million$$.

By Zack

October 8, 2008 1:09 AM | Link to this

man, ho, take yo dog for a walk ho.,\

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 8, 2008 1:11 AM | Link to this

TN, nothing was given to me - I earned it - I guarantee I pay more in taxes than most people earn - as far as charity, I am all for it - but let me decide who I want to help, not government - Welfare is not the entitlement I speak of, sucking on the government teat without contributing is what I mean -

I already bear the brunt of the taxes, but I should pay more? Guess what, if small - midsized business taxes go up, I will pay them - I have no other choice, but I will find the extra cash that I need by letting people go and hiring less qualified people for less money and training them. Blowback, I believe is the term - unintended consequences - Who suffers if oil company’s are overly taxed? The shareholders, who are mainly the pension funds for most of the nations unions - that I find hysterical.

Most of the wealthy people that I know are among the kindest, most charitable people on earth, and could afford to be more so if the government would allow it.

Because I object to paying a FAR (caps intended) higher percentage of income than others do, I am selfish? That’s a joke, right?

You are just like everyone else, blaming your failures on other people and other peoples success on being given gifts and/or luck - that’s what is so pathetic about it.

Good decisions lead to good results - EVERYONE (caps intended) is exactly where they are as a direct result of the decisions that they have made.

The past doesn’t have to equal the future - anyone can decide to change in one day and can go on to create whatever life they choose, but only if they actually make that decision instead of sitting around and bemoaning the fact that everyone who is better off than them is a dirty, rotten, lucky individual - - -

I know wealthy democrats too - most of them have earned their money already and have no income taxes to speak of - the rate on interest and long term capital gains is far less than the top income tax bracket - why wouldn’t they support taxing those who are working their tales off?

By pETE

October 8, 2008 1:33 AM | Link to this

@Dagny and John’s Love Child :

Did you weep.. when bush sent our young to Iraq? Did you weep… to hear “drill baby drill”? (Forget America, we will not have world to live in) Did you weep.. For people in New Orleans? Did you weep.. “heck of a job Bernie”? Did you weep.. should I even continue…?

By Neal

October 8, 2008 1:59 AM | Link to this

It is interesting that the objectivist, whose moral purpose in life is the pursuit of their own happiness, often find themselves drawn to joyess argument with those who see their own purpose differently and who they will not likely persuade.

By Anna

October 8, 2008 2:20 AM | Link to this

I DVRed the debate and just finished watching it. McCain kept citing petty points or outright untruths about Obama instead of talking about WHAT HE WOULD DO. Obama - calm and on point - tried to talk about issues, but kept taking the opportunity to respond to the continuous distortion of his ideas/record/votes/personality/decisions/positions.

At the end of the day, the last thing I want is McCain’s hand on the tiller. Steady? Who is he kidding?

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 3:39 AM | Link to this

Dagny and John’s Love Child

October 7, 2008 11:52 PM

Please disregard my previous posting. I mistakenly interchanged, welfare, charity and forced taxation. I’m sure you are a very kind person that gives generously of your money and time to many worthwhile organizations.

I responded to the one posting of yours before reading the others. I’ll try to do that tomorrow. But I’d be very surprised if you didn’t receive a helping hand from someone along the way.

I guess render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s would have been more appropriate. Nobody likes paying taxes, but would you rather be paying a 35% rate on a million dollars or nothing on $20k? I agree with Joe Biden, paying taxes is patriotic, and had expressed that in numerous writings before he said it.

I’m not like all the others. I’m a unique person as you are. I don’t blame anyone but myself for my failures and understand the satisfaction hard work brings even if it doesn’t result in wealth.

I don’t think businesses should be paying any income tax. After all, they’re just tax collectors. And I think the entire cost of FICA should be transferred to the employee over a 7 year period. I supported privatizing Social Security, but it’s too late now. 1996 was the last good time, but it should have been done in 1983 instead of raising taxes and creating what will be a $3 trilion “trust fund” before it has to be tapped to pay benefits. Talk about a stupid, hare-brained idea.

Please go to Omana’s Web site if you haven’t already. I think you’ll find his proposals more to your liking than McCain’s.

I certainly don’t agree with all of them and have been letting them know it. You can also submit your suggestions there.

By The Independent Voice of Reason

October 8, 2008 3:44 AM | Link to this

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. At least thats what my grandfather taught me.

Go ahead, vote for Barack Obama. I dare you.

Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright are both left wing radical nuts who clearly hate America. Barack Obama has been friends with both of these men for years. The man has surrounded himself with rich radical elitist.

For those who actually think Barack Obama is qualified to be President, no amount of truth, logic or reason is going to change your minds. To do so means having to admit they were taken in and made fools of, and as any cop will tell you, most con men get away with their con because their marks are so embarrassed to admit they were taken they just keep quiet.

The same fools who kept Bush in the White House for eight years are about to run madly to the voting booth and they will once again, vote for the worst candidate.

McCain on the other hand, though one can disagree with some of his policies, has in fact demonstrated that he is willing to stand up for what he believes, and more importantly, stand up to Republicans […] Like it or not, the record shows McCain is the real reformer and the real deal, while Obama is what most of the 18 million Democrats who voted against him know him to be — a snake oil salesman who has managed to bamboozle a lot of dumb, and impressionable people […] especially the dumb media blonds like Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and almost everyone at Newsweek, the NY times and CNN who he has eating out of hand.

McCain is flawed, no question. But he is actually qualified to be President.

If I were certain America could survive four years of Obama, I’d be tempted to lay out the conservative case for voting for him. An Obama Administration would leave the Democrat Party in ruins for at least a generation. Remember David Dinkins? Even ultra-liberal New York City has never elected a Democrat Mayor since. If Dinkins led to Giuliani, and Carter led to Reagan, Obama ought to lead to George Washington’s return from the grave. Also, imagine how people will turn on the mainstream media once they realize the bill of goods they’ve been sold.

However, an unprincipled left-wing radical with a life-long habit of surrounding himself with people who vehemently hate America could do enough damage that the idea of just letting the Democrats crash the bus and take the consequences is out of the question. Conservatives and liberals alike have a duty to put the good of the country first by keeping this tasteless joke away from the White House.

By the way, I’m an independent who will be voting for Ron Paul by writing his name in on my ballot. and once again, no one will be able to blame me for putting another mistake in the White House.

By CrazyPeeps

October 8, 2008 5:08 AM | Link to this

Yup for sure McCain does not seem to have any “love” for Barrack Obama………

When you think about it why should he?

If any of you are Doctors, when you went on to Med School or residency, did the established practicing Doctors ever make you feel welcome or comfortable???? * HELL NO*.

This process is not a love fest… If you people just getting involved in politics for the first time would come down off the eyther for a second and realize this is a job interveiw…….

A job interview for the most powerful job in the world.

Sure, Obama is no dummy…….. He just does not have the experience and is too self centered to offer appropriate leadership on all fronts that are required.

Say what you will about Bush…. McCain has proven they are not linked, and if thats all a person can point too,its a pretty weak argument.

Just like saying Obama is a shill for Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and their “do nothing congress”.

When comparing track record and legislative activity while in elected office, it becomes clear, that Obama does not have the portfolio of accomplishement that McCain has, even if you go back to his State Senate days.

Obama wants the power, McCain wants to serve. Would not you be PO’d if you had to share a stage with someone who has been made to believe he is prepared to lead when he is not??? This is how McCain feels and I don’t blame him one bit. Even Sarah Palin has more experience than Obama making decisions.

Can’t say I beleive she was the best option for McCain, but she’s not bad. She’s apolitical, adept at making decisions, and she seems to care more about making a difference than being impressed with herself..

Reasonable people will investigate backgrounds of each. While the mainstream media has not covered this properly, the info. is out there for those who want to vote responsibly.

They will look at associations, affiliations to influential people and see if all that makes sense.

Lasty a voter should look at which candidate has a worldwide network connections of connections in countries important to America.

Obama has not been around long enough to meet the bellboy of the hotel he is staying at tonight, never mind a hotline into the halls of power worldwide like McCain.

So yes, if I were John McCain I would look at the audacity of the Democratic Party, and be inhospitable.

Can’t just walk in, and say “I’m here” and expect the world to fall at your feet.

Obama has to earn what McCain already has…… It will take more time and a real track record.

Absolutely other world leaders want him in, while they are glad handing Obama in the front room, their political counterparts will be in the background messing us up more. Obama won’t even realize its happening.

By Dennis C. Brown

October 8, 2008 5:24 AM | Link to this

Reading through the ninety or so comments to Bookman’s summary of the debate to this point it was pretty clear that few were directing their comments to either Bookman or the debate - rather just pontificating and showing personal bias developed long before last evening. Shame - guess issues and debate really don’t matter. One concept does show through, however. The news media definitely does shape public opinion - not simply report it as they would purport.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 5:36 AM | Link to this

Federal officials have asked Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel to investigate whether state election officials are improperly checking the identity of newly registered voters.-Urinal/DNC

You got that?

That’s the front page of the Urinal.

They don’t even want us to know who’s voting.

Am I missing something here?

By Angry old man

October 8, 2008 5:42 AM | Link to this

All I saw was an angry old man who doesn’t have the decency to call his opponent by name just “that one” which is beyond disrespect. I see someone who is unstable and has clearly not taken care of his PTSD from his combat and kidnap days; folks why do you think he gets so mad. Please, please look up PTSD and you’ll see that John McCain is the poster child. And we want this man as leader of our country? No, Obama isn’t perfect. But I’d prefer the Obama and Biden ticket any day over McCAin and (god help us all) Palin. I am a woman. I totally disagree and disrespect this woman who has little more than a bachelor’s degree, is clearly power driven, and was one of the main stream media types many argue about during her sports reporting days. Come on folks. McCain looked like a doddering old man last night. I fear for our country if he is elected. For those of us who worked very had to get where we are in life, we too pay taxes. We too realize that we must do something different as these multi year bailouts of savings and loans (Keating) have almost destroyed this country. Again, yes, Obama has been alighned with folks of question— SO HAS EVERY POLITICIAN. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!’

There I can have my second cup of coffee now. ’ God bless us all!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 5:43 AM | Link to this

Nevada ACORN offices probed for voter fraud Nevada authorities seized records Tuesday from a group they accused of submitting fraudulent voter-registration forms —- including for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys. “Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won’t be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4,” said Secretary of State Ross Miller.-Urinal/DNC

Yeah, but how will you know if you can’t check their ID?

Duh.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 5:53 AM | Link to this

Even in last night’s debate, Obama was slapped with the “he doesn’t get it” theme reprised from the previous debate. Rather than make a historical quip, he gave a professorial response with the same laundry list of eight years of whatever. Some orator.-AmSpec

I call it blah, blah, blah, Bushie, blah, blah.

By Peadawg

October 8, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Bookman, why doesn’t your pal cynthia tucker let people blog on her opinion columns? or why doesn’t she respond to e-mails? does she not care what other people think?

By Alice

October 8, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

I hate America, and I’m voting for Barack Obama, just to p1ss you off.

By Left Nuts

October 8, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

Let’s look at some of the O’mans biggest supporters.

In Europe, 80% of the people support the O’man. What else does the European people want? A weaker America! Looks like Europe is about to get everything they want.

I received this via email a few days ago, it might not have actually happened, but it sure is accurate!

On television today a Democratic operative pointed out that when Obama holds a rally 25,000-30,000 people show up, whereas when McCain holds one he only draws 5,000-10,000. The Republican spokesman replied, “That’s because McCain’s supporters have jobs and are at work.”

By Eric1

October 8, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Four more years of this crap would be stupid in almost anybody’s book. McCain=Bush. What a mess. The Old Gentleman is so out of touch I can hardly beleive this is the best the repubs can come up with. If he’s serious about Country First, he’ll pack it up and head back to Arizona and try to salvage his retirement. Better times may be way down the road, but at least with Obama/Biden we’ll have a chance for some level of peace and prosperity. McCain is our past, Obama is our future. Bud is a fool.

By Right Nuts

October 8, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

I’m voting for McCain, because I believe Bush’s policies need more time. Eventually our country will lose so much money, we can declare Chapter 11 and start over. I also want to see our children taught that dinosaurs were tamed by Adam and Eve instead of that Satanic evolution.

I like McCain because he crashed five planes in the military, like a real maverick. I think more deregulation will fix our economy, so American businesses can evade taxes in offshore accounts, move our factories overseas, and hire foreign labor cheaply, because that’s true Patriotism!

By Peadawg

October 8, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Alice, why don’t you leave then? Go to Canada or something.

By Skeptic Tank

October 8, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

John McCain has not aged well since 2000. Last night, I saw a very old man, stooped and plodding, telling us that HE is our future. No disrespect intended, but Mr. McCain is not MY future. The rigors of the presidency will age the man at an accelerated rate. Folks, the last thing we need is a part-time President, spending half his time in bed with a thermometer in his rectum.

We need fresh blood, a viable workhorse, to turn our nation around. McCain is not a visionary; his ideas are as old as his body. I urge people to look beyond party politics and vote for the candidate who will survive his term in office.

By Southern ATL

October 8, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

TO ALL U.S.VETERANS:

FIND OUT WHO IN WASHINGTON REALLY SUPPORTS OUR VETERANS AND TROOPS. I AM A VETERAN AND WAS DISAPPOINTED IN MY RESEARCH…CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.veteranreportcard.org/index.html

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Dagny @ 12.42 gave us: “the bottom 55% or so of all citizens pay NO income taxes”

Jay’s already kicked you to the kerb on this lie. Why do you keep repeating it?

By ByteMe

October 8, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

So Obama won the debate and Asian markets tank. I’m sure the wingnuts will find some sort of relationship between the two events.

Peadawg @ 8:07: that question has been answered here many times. Tucker used to open her opinion pieces to comments, but the racist blog-trolls made it difficult and time-consuming to moderate, so they took it down.

By E

October 8, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Obama was great!

Why does McCain not tell Bush how to get bin Laden? He said last night he knows how. Why has he let that scumbag remain free all these years? I keep thinking about all those people who died on 9/11.

I guess he’s hoping he’ll get to be President, then he’ll capture bin Laden, and he’ll be a hero. Ha!

McCain is an evil, evil old man.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Truthman

October 8, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

27 days until our long, national nightmare is over!

Sorry, neo-conmen and women…DEAL WITH IT…OR MOVE! DELTA IS READY WHEN YOU ARE! GO TO IRAN WHERE YOU BELOVED THEOCRACY ALREADY EXISTS!!

Imagine an Obama/Biden presidency!!

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

ByteMe, you know that Peadawg already knows the answer to the question posted @ 8.07. this is standard-issue right-wing baiting on this comments thread.

Anyone with even a vague understanding of the dynamics of a small sliver of angry white people—who hate that uppity Cynthia Tucker sumthin’ fierce, and who flood the “letters to the editor” page with screeds denouncing her “racism” and “playing the race card” when she so much as mentions the topic of race—knows why Tucker doesn’t bother leaving her page open to comments.

One day, that sliver of white Georgians will learn to behave themselves. Until then, well, they’ll be attending Sarah Palin rallies, apparently.

By Peadawg

October 8, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

ByteMe, have you read some of Mrs. Tucker’s articles? That’s all her articles are, race this, race that. Can you blame the bloggers?

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

I’ll be honest. I fell asleep. Same stuff different night. McCain better hope for a strong racist turnout in Nov.

By Peadawg

October 8, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

ByteMe and hillbilly, have you read today’s article by Cynthia? She calls herself a Christian, but says “….homosexuality, which Christ never mentioned” Has she even read the bible?

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 8:33 AM

We paid $2 last year. Does that put us in the 62% that Jay used? Maybe it would be more accurate to say that more than half didn’t pay any income tax of any significance.

By Alice

October 8, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Peadawg, you and your Aryan buddies on this board are the only ones bringing up race repeatedly. Get over your white selves.

By Ray

October 8, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Ragger,

Let’s go over this one more time for some of you who are having a little trouble getting it. 132M people filed tax returns in the country in 2007. 66m of those make less than 31K/yr and paid only 3% of the total tax burden. The top 1% of taxpayers paid a dollar amount of over 90% of taxes paid in this country. By my math, 132/66 equals about 50%. Bookman is a troll who cannot admit that he is dead wrong. Ref…. www.taxfoundation.org

By Peadawg

October 8, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Alice,

I don’t care what color the democrat nominee is, i’m a Christian conservative republican. I would vote for a African American if they were Republican, but not Democrat.

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Gelding, read the damn piece I linked to and stop whining.

Peadawg, you can take your religious bigotry —how dare you question Tucker’s beliefs? seriously, how dare you?—and shove them.

Shove ‘em hard, with sand for lube.

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Ray, you’re willfully ignoring the point Jay made, that it is fundamentally dishonest not to count the withholding taxes that begin with the first time ANY taxpayer earns.

And he didn’t even get into how the tax code rewards/penalizes certain spending practices among those who can itemize deductions, which is another effective tax on individuals.

Keep bringing this up, I’ll keep knocking you down.

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Oh, Jay, meant to congratulate the AJC’s editorial staff on their Affirmative-Action-for-Wingnuts program, shown most gloriously this morning. In what other respectable newspaper could I read a Freeperish screed about them “voter fraudin’” ACORN folk?

Funny, funny stuff.

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 9:06 AM

I read it yesterday and it was wrong then and it’s still wrong this morning. Look for Jay to write a retraction.

By hillbilly ragger

October 8, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Snort. Gelding @ 9.21, I’ll bet you 100 Intertubez dollahs that Jay ain’t “retracting” anything; if anything I think you can count on him fleshing this out into a print column when space permits one day.

Anyway, sheets. (Translation: I’m off to the fresh thread, for a few minutes at least.)

By Truthman

October 8, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

The Nevada numbnutz are just trying to disenfranchise as many voters as possible with their STUNT THEY PULLED AGAINST ACORN!

That is the only chance grumpy ole whitey has to hold on the reins of power…AND MONEY!!

All neo-cons really care about is their money, their lily-white god, and their feelings of superiority!

You’re gonna have a brother for president of these here U-nited States, SO DEAL WITH IT!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

October 8, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Listen up Fascist Weenies! It’s over! McDunce has lost. He continues to thrash about and make noise but his campaign has been declared brain dead and the plug is being pulled. The reign of the Republinazis is over!

By Truthman

October 8, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Andi/Dunce/Mismanagement,

What are you going to do when we have a fine, chocolate brother as your president and Commander-in-Chief?

I mean, you know it’s inevitable! What are you going to do down there in yo momma’s basement?

By Truthman

October 8, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Mr. Calhoun is very wise!!

Listen to him and learn, Andi!

By Dino

October 8, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

You Liberal Fools!!! Are you just pathetic or just SHEEP (with no minds of your own!!)following a smooth-talking Radical.

Give me ONE example of ANYTHING the man has done….Come on, just ONE!!! You CAN’T, because he has spent all his time the last two years campaigning NOT doing his JOB in the Senate!!

But, hey…He talks a GOOD SHOW, doesn’t he? Looks like the DNC speechwriters are working overtime….

One last point for all of you to ponder: How many people in this country do you think make 250K or more per year?

Not ENOUGH to PAY for all of Oblahma’s plan to INCREASE SPENDING (WHICH WILL MEAN AN INCREASE IN TAXES FOR ALL AMERICANS!!!) There is NO WAY, he can accomplish this otherwise.

People need to wake up and see the TRUTH!!!

Smooth-talkers without SUBSTANCE or EXPERIENCE have been around before and are DANGEROUS (a couple that come to mind are Lenin, Hitler, and Saddam Hussein….all were terrific speakers without SUBSTANCE beyond their own sick, twisted agendas).

By Alice

October 8, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

LOL, “You Liberal Fools!!!” That’s priceless. I didn’t know you took drama classes, Dino/Andy/Daddy’s Biatch.

By Please Vote

October 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

To Chris @ 1:07 am - Obama gets his advise from Buffett and a few others, but not Raines (the fromer head of Freddie). This has been proven time and time again - Raines is not, has never been, will never be an advisor. To all others who think the world is coming to an end with an Obama Presidency - every political party states that before an election. OK, so the democrats have been close on this last one - but the world will not come to an end. Everybody needs to tighten their belt, roll up their sleeves, and prepare for some ugly times ahead. Obama seems to surround himself in the political world with competent, wise people - I’m talking about Luger, Biden, Buffett, Hagel. This is not a bad thing and shows Obama has respect from both sides of the aisle. One other point - no matter who is elected, all our taxes are going up. We have to pay for the crimes of the last 8 years and we will pay harshly.

By dirty harry

October 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

DINO .. Go back to bed!

You sound like McCain, an angry old man…

By Truthman

October 8, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

“Here Dino, Here, Boy!!”

Several more than one piece of legislation your-soon-to-be President-elect has had passed into law:

“Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:

Two addressed foreign policy: Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125) Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health: Improve mine safety (2803) Increased breast cancer funding (597) Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government: Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488) Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467) Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).”

Taking care of the common man is what President Obama will do!

Your party is over!!!

By Truthman

October 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Please Vote:

Well said!!

-TM

By Rusty

October 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

None of this is going to matter when Barry’s real Kenyan COLB surfaces.The Federal lawsuits have already been filed. Game ender folks. It’s gonna be ugly.

By Truthman

October 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Please Vote,

Well said!!

-TM

By Dennis C. Brown

October 8, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Reading all the responses above make me realize what a real problem we have in this country. The news media - it shapes public opinion. And even the most sincere and well-meaning broadcaster, reporter, writer, and editorialist can’t escape that reality, no matter how much they try and/or protest the fact. As a result, professional politicians and would-be politicians at all levels have learned that to survive they must either use or cow-tow to the news media in hopes what is reported will work to their advantage. Cases in point - you have to admit that Reagan was, and Clinton still is really good at it. Last night was like a NASCAR race - everyone was tuned in to see one of the candidates self-destruct. Short of that, nothing of substance was or did come out of it. But with CNN leading the way, we still had to be saturated with summaries and polls and whatever else telling us who won, and what we heard. All with the same spin and hype consistent with the personal preference of the source that we read and hear on a daily basis. Give us a break. Give the country a break. The president, present and future and no matter who he or she is, and members of our CONGRESS will never be able to govern until some stability is provided in terms of the degree to which they have to worry about being seen in the eyes of public opinion. And I emphasize Congress because if in the future if the checks and balances intended by our forefathers are not in place and recognized as such by the public, god bless us. The last couple of years has proven that - a president blamed for all problems and a do-nothing Congress failing to face up to their checks and balances responsibility. Is either any surprise when their activity is put on hold until the results of polls are available to be sure final decisions meet the majority of public opinion.

By gadem

October 8, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

About 40 minutes had passed after the debate had ended and Obama was still on the stage talking to the people from the town hall. They were crowded around him and it was very intriguing. Obama was there trying to win votes. Trying to talk to them about their problems. A note about McCain. They said he left very quickly. I don’t know why, but Obama was there for a while. Tom Brokaw was asked about it and he said Michelle Obama asked him was it OK to stay and speak with the people. He said I don’t know any rules against it, so they stayed.

By steve

October 8, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

I am sure you have all seen the wireless commercials where the internet can’t hide. Maybe they could use Hillary and Bill Clinton in the next one with the abominable snow man. LMAO A more tepid endorsement for a member of their own party has NEVER been witnessed. Hillary still holds out hope that the Obama campaign derails. We can find the internet but we can’t find Hillary and Bill.

By Butch Gaddy

October 13, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Acorn, Aires, Abortion and Rev. Wright…..all have one thing in common. Obama is wrong on all of them. He has made wrong decisions all his young life. Still, all of you have tasted the cool-aid and are going to vote for a left wing, Marxist, Socialist. I would say you are voting for change alright. God Help America!!!!!! Butch

By Diggin for truth

October 16, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Joe The Plumber tried to challenge Barack and McCain tried to “lean” on Joe P. last night in the president debate but come to find out, Joe P is suspect. According to public records, Mr. Plumber has been subject to two liens, each over $1,000, one of which — a personal tax lien — is still outstanding. Turns out that “Joe the Plumber,” as he became nationally known when Senator John McCain made him a theme at Wednesday night’s third and final presidential debate, may run a plumbing business but he is not a licensed plumber. His full name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher. And he owes a bit in back taxes. An official at Local 50 of the plumber’s union, based in Toledo, said Mr. Wurzelbacher does not hold a license. He also has never served an apprenticeship and does not belong to the union. And his question to Mr. Obama about paying taxes? If Mr. Wurzelbacher’s gross receipts from his business is $250,000 — and not his taxable income — then he would not have to pay higher taxes under Mr. Obama’s plan, and probably would be eligible for a tax cut.