Jay Bookman

By E

October 6, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

No way in hell could Bush reassure the American people about anything!

Hey John McBush, still want to talk about strengthening corporate America’s control over health care? “Let’s do to our health care system exactly what we’ve done in the banking system!”

We’ll all be dead in twenty years if we follow that strategy.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By N-GA

October 6, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

There is hope, Jay.

But I won’t believe it until he’s sworn in.

By cal

October 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

It will be another Jimmy Carter presidency but even worse.

By N-GA

October 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Jay,

Perhaps you should consider doing a column on “Statesman”, what it means and are there any out there?

By T

October 6, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Hmmm. I feel better. I think tonight I’ll even go to bed with the door unlocked and all of my valubles pushed towards the door. Warm and fuzzy.

By Midori

October 6, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Cal,

are you referring to the present presidency?

By lrd

October 6, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

So glad that the adults are in charge. Since day one, W and his team have been the epitome of leadership, teamwork and putting the country first. They will be sorely missed

By Dusty

October 6, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Yes, VIRGINIA, there is a Santa Claus and it is going to be John McCain.

In the meantime, George W. Bush is still doing HIS job which is more than we can say for Congress and the Democratic cutups.. Never have so many done so much to… so mess up.

Put out the cookies, VIRGINIA. Santa is coming a little early this year, November the fourth to be exact. Republicans are sending you the Man For America. You will love him. McCain 2008

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 6, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Thanks Mr. Bush, for the Second Republican Great Depression.

By Paul

October 6, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Here’s a question I mean in all seriousness. It can be considered in light of Obama or McCain getting sworn in. How long will the line “it’ll take a long, long time to fix the mess I inherited from Pres Bush” be allowed to run?

We’ve noted many Presidents reap the benefits of their predecessor’s actions, as many effects are not felt until months or years later. Same hold true with the negative.

But in this case, the next President will assume office with a known condition. Heck, as I type it occurs I should change the question:

We have a known situation. The Pres and Congress have taken action that does not seem to have a calming or reversal effect. So, both candidates, there’s a month until we pull the lever. What are your plans? Specifically? So we can compare and make a decision?

My guess: Obama will ride the wave of anger, benefit that the anger is directed towards the party that holds the executive and will not say or do anything controversial to redirect the flow. If anything, he will continue the mantra that to vote for McCain is to vote for more of the same. McCain is getting hammered by party affiliation. He will attack not only industry but his own Party and President. He will make proposals and will speak in much more specific terms than will Obama.

Will it be enough to change the tide? Maybe not. So full circle back to my original question. The crisis hit, Obama spoke in generalities, the first fix went through and was ineffectual, Obama still remained silent or spoke in generalities and was elected.

How long does he have to show results?

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

I’ve noticed looking around at the electoral maps, that Georgia has moved from many to the solid McCain to the leaning McCain column.

Hey! Maybe for the first time in a while, my vote WILL count!!!

By David

October 6, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Tell me, Cal, how could anyone do worse than Gov Bush?

By Taxpayer

October 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Statesmen! That’s laughable. Just look around right here in Georgia and ask yourself where are your elected officials and what are they doing. They should be working to cut government expenses and to find private sector jobs for people. They should be working to help keep people in their homes. They should be working to protect our assets and our savings from crooks. Where are they and what are they doing. I just can’t wait to hear more from their spokespersons. Are they busy practicing their latest chants:

Spill Baby Spill or Principles Baby Principles

or cheering on their party leaders. You all do remember the Republican party leaders. There’s George and Dick and their replacements, John and Sarah — Republicans all, even though they want you to think otherwise.

By Abomi Nation

October 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Remember when the disgraced Nixon spent a few years in a self imposed exile at his beach house in San Clemente California after he resigned the presidency?

Seems to me we’re in exactly the same situation with President Bush. How long should the disgraced Bush spend in exile at his ranch in Texas when his disastrous term is over? I think he should give himself at least a 10 year exile. The damage he has done to the country has been far greater than what Nixon did.

Can we make sure we get the helicopter ordered and on the ground at exactly the moment Obama takes office so Bush can give his Nixon wave bye-bye and be gone?

By E

October 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

The streets are flowing with financial blood. Retirements are going up in smoke.

This is proof positive that Republican control of the economy with its trickle-down theory and policy of deregulation is the cause of this crisis - and it will only end by electing Obama/Biden who will put an FDR economy in place of Republican casino capitalism.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

David,

Yes, it gives me great satisfication to know that finally folks will get off my man, Jimmy’s, back about being the worst president ever.

By rightytighty

October 6, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

I chose the conservative path over the last 7 years of good times, waiting and saving for incredible deals, instead of over entending myself. And now that my coffers are full and my little house ever smaller…, I say sell, sell, sell! You liberal morons.

By "The Corporal"

October 6, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Jay

Reminds me of someone else ………..

We have nothing to fear but fear itself !

By getalife

October 6, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

w is the face responsible for all disasters in the last 8 years yet nobody has demanded his resignation.

Like that POS Fuld, accepts no accountability.

I hope they both end up in prison to bring back accountability to this country.

By "The Corporal"

October 6, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

P.S.

Sorry guys ……… just “venting”.

Bill Clinton lied about his dealings in the military draft and Barack Obama lies about his friendship with domestic terrorists but liberal voters don’t care because they too are out of the same mold.

By Paul

October 6, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla 2:09

[[Thanks Mr. Bush, for the Second Republican Great Depression.]]

So what you’re saying is, six years as the minority party and two years as the majority in both the House and the Senate is not long enough for Democrats to figure out what was going on, to realize the - what, incompetence, ineptness - of the Bush Administration and take action to fix a bad situation and correct an impending disaster?

That sounds just as bad as the Bush Administration, if not worse.

By lrd

October 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Well, then where are the cries to dismantle the University of Illinois as a terrorist school since Ayers is a Professor there? And then we can lock up every single student he taught, since they were taught be a terrorist? And then we can lock all of his students children since then they are children of people taught by a terrorist? And then…….

By ByteMe

October 6, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Poor Corporal. Swimming out of the mainstream again. Obama’s poll numbers are over 50% and climbing. Yep, they must all be “liberals”.

My guess is that all the mud throwing since Saturday will yield no change or maybe a change further toward Obama, since people are tired of the same old same old and mud throwing is definitely “same old”.

Meanwhile… to debunk someone on the LEFT:

E: the problem with your analysis of a short-term market correction is that it does not properly correlate with the market’s long-term direction. Even if a Democrat were in charge, the markets were severely overvalued and continue to be overvalued. We’re in a secular bear market, just like we were in a secular bull market from 1982-2000. These things take 10-15 years to work their way out. We’re about half way into the bear market now. In every bear market, you can have pushes higher, but every push higher is reversed further to the downside.

Even a President Obama — hallowed be thy name — won’t be able to reverse or correct a secular business cycle. You just have to wait until stocks are cheap again and then “Buy, baby, buy!”

By mike hussein smith

October 6, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

If you haven’t seen Rolling Stone’s article on McCain, take a look. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/makebelievemavericktherealjohnmccain

Some tidbits:
“McCain says his life changed while he was in Vietnam, and he is now a different man,” says John Dramesi, a former POW. “But he’s still the undisciplined, spoiled brat that he was when he went in.”

Even as a toddler, McCain recalls in (his book) Faith of My Fathers, his volcanic temper was on display. “At the smallest provocation,” he would hold his breath until he passed out: “I would go off in a mad frenzy, and then, suddenly, crash to the floor unconscious.” His parents cured him of this habit in a way only a CIA interrogator could appreciate: by dropping their blue-faced boy in a bathtub of ice-cold water.

The summer after his sophomore year (at a tony private high school), cruising with a friend near Arlington (Va.), McCain tried to pick up a pair of young women. When they laughed at him, he cursed them so vilely that he was hauled into court on a profanity charge.

By Dusty

October 6, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

That’s right, Paul

The whole picture of Obama is ineffectual. That’s one of the best words I’ve heard to accurately describe him.

He isn’t BAD. Nope. Just ineffectual. Past Senate experience? Not BAD. Just ineffectual. Past Community Organizer? Not BAD. Just ineffectual in politics. Twenty years of white bigotry at church? Explanation ineffectual. HIs promises on such as political contribution limits? Ineffectual and switched. There is so little strongly POSITIVE in his persona and positions.

Underneath it all I do feel one driving force that is too strong to be called “ineffectual”. That force is his blind ambition to be a famous leader. He sets the stage or stadium at every turn to be the leader of the self proclaimed downtrodden. THAT he throws out from his million dollar home in the “best” part of Chicago.

Let us hope that he will be ineffectual enough that even the “downtrodden” will see who is for them and who is for himself.

By Abomi Nation

October 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Yea, lets bring Clinton into this……………..

You know, the President that left office with a 65% approval rating and a stock market 1,000 points higher than it is today.

By Taxpayer

October 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

The only thing worse than the Bush Administration would be four more years. Just say no to the Republican party. We don’t need their incompetence driving us ever further into the abyss.

By E

October 6, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

McCain and Palin are the biggest jokes in the history of American politics.

Slash and burn politics is one thing, but then they blatantly announce it. Straight up arrogant enough to say we need to change the subject because we are getting our butts kicked on the subjects that matter to the American people.

This is worse than the Karl Rove playbook, at least he had a little tiny bit of discretion.

The jerk Pat Buchanan said that Palin wiped up the floor with Biden during the debate when the nitwit wouldn’t even answer questions asked her.

Can you imagine her knowing the launch codes for missles? Would she drop one on her ex-brother-in-law because he divorced out of her dysfunctional family?

Now the McCain camp is playing the race card, by saying Obama doesn’t think about this country the way “we” do? What kind of nonsense is that? Who is “we”?

During the debate with Obama the miserable old coot wouldn’t even give his own peer in the Senate the respect of looking at him while talking.

Basic human decency neither of these two have. Those who vote for them should be ashamed of themselves. The only choice in this crisis is Obama/Biden.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By N-GA

October 6, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Paul,

“…the mess I inherited…”. Well that is pretty broad when you consider the war, the economy, etc.

I can only answer for myself. Whoever takes office in January has until the end of his first term to show measurable progress in addressing the economic problems. I think that is what you are asking because I consider the Economy linked to, but separate from, the financial crisis.

I think we will be largely out of Iraq by the end of the first term. But a lot of people thought that about Viet Nam.

Obama can and will be specific about government oversight because that is relatively easy and not very controversial. The problems facing our economy are vastly different and infinitely more complicated. Pre-election Obama may not say much. But I do think him very capable of providing the leadership we need to weather this.

But I see these last 30 days deteriorating into a mud-slinging contest that makes both candidates look ugly. But Obama can be “ugly” in a so much nicer way than McCain.

By mike hussein smith

October 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/makebelievemavericktherealjohnmccain

Here’s complete rolling stone link

By Mr Snarky

October 6, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Let’s hope bush stays put. He’s done enough damage.

By Dusty

October 6, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

All you crybabies, listen up. Not time to get the firing squad for Bush as you Libs so desire.

Did you expect an OVERNIGHT improvement for the stock market? A miracle on Wall Sttreet or something? You expect Bush to pull the rabbit out of the hat while Democrats shoot at the stage? Forgive me, ladies and gentlemen DimWits, but you have the patience and brain of a six year old wanting candy.

Control yourself in the nursery for a little while. Adults will change and feed you shortly. Take a nap. Suck your thunb. But…for goodness sake, quit crying and wailing..

By mike hussein smith

October 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

whoops again:

try this

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/ makebelievemavericktherealjohnmccain

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

“But Obama can be “ugly” in a so much nicer way than McCain”

Good one.

By Paul

October 6, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

N-GA

That’s fair. End of the term. But I should imagine that after the first couple of budget cycles the results of his proposals should become quite clear, even if the effects have not yet fully hit.

Funny in a nice way, how a year ago Iraq was going to be the be all and end all of the election? And now the coverage is… almost a footnote on some day’s event reporting? I can’t imagine either candidate following Nixon on this, what with his “secret plan to end the war” and half the casualties occurring on his watch.

This last month will be nasty on both sides. They’ll both revert to, sadly, what works. I do not think McCain has to do this, that he can score enough to demonstrate the possible outcomes of Obama’s policies to have a fighting chance. As I’ve said, if the campaign advisors are the same one who move in as advisors in a new administration…

Dusty

I said on Saturday before lunch that I think both candidates are essentially decent men who want what they see as the best for our country. Just different ways of getting there. Doesn’t mean they’re Pollyannas - they’re both highly ambitious political animals. I took a lot of heat for saying so, but that’s the way I see it.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

The Dream of an Obamaconomy

We all have a dream now, that the nightmare of Bush is nearly over.

By hillbilly ragger

October 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

mike, you’re a whole lot better off just embedding a link to that RS article, rather than pasting a long URL that’ll just get snipped.

Instructions are in the “link” bit just before the “Comments” field.

By Paul

October 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Oh, I think Obama’s done a pretty good job of hiring, or aligning himself with, or attracting certain groups, of people who are down in the gutter nasty. He can stay above it all and be a nonconfrontational conciliator, but the dirty work still gets done. You don’t come out of the Chicago political machine still believing in the tooth fairy.

I think that’s why political campaigns hire ad agencies, to keep the top guy above it all.

By Mary

October 6, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

The 700 Billion bailout was the wrong thing to do but Georgians - 50% of Republicans voted against the bill and 67% of Democrats voted for this bailout. President Bush should not have come out to push the bill I agree but The Dems have had the power of the Congress for a while now Wake up people It’s not the Presidents fault he can not do this without the support of Congress.
This is economy is way bigger than all these people no one can say let’s do this to save the economy, we are in unprecidented territory and going into a recission, it is a cycle and will pass time for everyone to lace up their boots and believe in family and a higher power and all it will be a rough road but we will get through. McCain-Palin ‘08 To McCain who had the guts to pick a woman VP

By E

October 6, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

mike at 2:57 -

On top of everything else, the old b@st@rd sounds like a psychopathic schizophrenic.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Hey, we all have friends whose scruples could be questioned! :-)

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Okay, the Dow is going back up and oil is $88 a barrel.

Things are lookin’ up!

Everybody sing!

By Paul

October 6, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Bosch

[[Hey, we all have friends whose scruples could be questioned]]

Funny, that’s the same thing my friends say…

Hey, if oil’s about half where it was during the run-up, doesn’t that mean prices should be…. never mind, silly me…

By AJC/DNC Management

October 6, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Look at all the socialists panicking.

Hell, this should be your days of rapture, but no, they just whine even harder.

I guess you are starting to understand how nice capitalism was before you began your full frontal assault on it.

You didn’t need that new Ipod anyway, remember?

Conserve, y’all, conserve.

By Dusty

October 6, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Paul,3:02

I see blind ambition in Obama. He is dedicated to that ambition. We see it as he changes stands, principles, promises, churches and old friends to obtain success.

The only ambition I see in McCain is the desire to keep this country strong. He has already done the “hero” thing which Obama misses so much. McCain does not need the “worship”, just the satisfaction.

Abomi Nation @2:45

Bring Clinton into the picture? Wow! He is ONE OF TWO PRESIDENTS IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA TO BE IMPEACHED. He’s in the picture already; the most (in)famous DEMOCRAT of all times.

By "The Corporal"

October 6, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

To ByteMe:

Yes. Liberals and selfish Conservatives who vote for what they think is good for them (like my “union” relatives”) than what’s good for the country.”

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Yeah, I had the same thought about the price of gas, but I decided it was just too silly to type it - or even think it.

Hey, my smily face guy got split up @ 3:16. Jay, don’t split up the smily face guys, there has to be some goodness in the world!

By findog

October 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Paul @2:32

Granted the lizard lady is a rabid leftist operative but your argument that six years in the minority and 20 months in the majority are equal to seven years and months of management by the first President MBA is ludicrous. Maybe you should re-read your high school civics textbook for a clue on how the government was established to function, and then find where the presidential signing statements allowed the executive to ignore the laws enacted by the legislative branch. There are no solutions in the blame game of political discourse…

By Paul

October 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Dusty

Nothing to be sorry about. I, too, see ambition. Not blind, very clear eyed. I don’t think anyone gets to that position without enough ambition to fill a good-size city. What I wrote about coming out of Chicago - it’s the nature of the beast. Politicians make alliances all the time - and drop them as soon as the purpose has been served. Maybe it’s just more obvious from where he got his start. If he was a Republican in Des Moines he’d probably make alliances with and seek support from the top dogs in the Rotary Club. It’s just a different political machine.

By Paul

October 6, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

findog

I didn’t mean to say the times were equal. Didn’t even mean to imply it. My point was the Dems had the first term and half the second to evaluate all things Bush. They seemed to have plenty to say about what was wrong. If my memory is correct, they campaigned for control of the Congress by saying “we’ll fix it.” When they took control of the legislative branch it was their time to act on what they’d observed.

They didn’t act on this situation, obviously they didn’t observe what was right under their noses, obviously they were clueless.

We did get lots and lots and lots of hearings about stuff that happened in the past, though. No legislation from it, near as I recall. Just lots and lots and lots of hearings.

By Greg Mendel

October 6, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Who will be harder to find next February — Osama bin Laden or George Bush?

By Taxpayer

October 6, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

What have the Republicans done for US since the “Contract with America” days. I look back and all I see is nothing good.

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

The DOW is above 10,000 again! Let’s break out the champagne.

Does this mean that Bush will get credit for this?

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 6, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Bush bought 98,000 acres in Paraguay

I understand that they do not have a formal extradition treaty with the US.

By Frederick Douglass

October 6, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Obama’s link with infamy: In 1969, an eight year old Barack Obama used his Radio Flyer to ferry bomb making materials to the Weather Men led by Bill Ayers. On a clandestine trip to O’Hare air port,young Obama crossed paths with the Buffalo Bills football team. As the players crossed the tarmak to the terminal, a rookie running back espied Obama, threw an autographed jersey into his wagon, and walked on. Upon returning to the Weather Men’s lair, Obama then shredded the jersey and stuffed the strips in gasoline filled bottles for Molotov cocktails. The rookie running back’s name was Orenthal James Simpson. With connections like that, Obama is bad for America.

By Bosch

October 6, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

Maybe he’s going to start his own country, that’s what he’s been wanting all along anyway.

Freaking moron.

By Paul

October 6, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Frederick Douglass

Wow. Did you find that on the Internet? Then it’s gotta be true…

By Taxpayer

October 6, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

I can imagine a fitting end for Bush in Paraguay: A local leader emerges — say, a relative of Chavez — and takes control of all privately owned property and businesses and tosses big land owners in jail where they are waterboarded until their captors feel like stopping and then they turn them over to sadistic soldiers who pose with them while naked, amongst other things, and send photos out over the internet…well, you get the picture.

By Taxpayer

October 6, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Frederick Douglass has been reading the same material as the loons in the Republican party. I’m surprised Andy has not already linked to it and pasted it on hundreds of web sites as proof of his claims. Give him time. The day is young.

By Tell It Like It Is

October 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

I never thought that I would see the day when a black man with a degree from Harvard Law would run for president with white men directing his campaign and doing what all candidates do…. play the political game with reckless abandon. Who says that affirmative action does not work?

By Cal

October 6, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

I will be voting for McCain. The last thing I need is 800 million in more government spending which is Obama’s plan. I rather like smaller government and government reform which is the McCain plan. You guys can take the bigger government any day but please don’t complain when our deficit is even bigger. I would also rather not pay the additional 788,959.00 in taxes that the ajc said I would be paying under Obama. I already pay too much in taxes.

By SL3

October 6, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

We are one business day after the rescue plan is approved and we have comments that it is not working already by news readers and listeners. The world’s coming to an end! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

By GodHatesTrash

October 6, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

Who farted?

Oh, hi Dusty.