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DEL.ICIO.USThe Palin-palooza debate thread…
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
in which Joe Biden will play a supporting role no matter what he does … almost.
UPDATE: The bailout question and the economy, and McCain’s claim that the fundamentals were strong. The McCain explanation — that he meant the American worker was strong — was a weak argument, and it’s not Palin’s fault she had to repeat it.
UPDATE II: Biden scores on deregulation, and Palin goes off the track, says she’s not going to answer the questions that are asked, she’s going to say what she wants. Interesting tactic.
UPDATE III: I think Biden’s winning on content, and Palin is reciting well. But if she can continue to do that, she’ll escape unscathed.
UPDATE IV: So an evangelical conservative Republican supports equal benefits for same-sex couples? Great. But then maybe not, she ducks the question when asked to clarify.
UPDATE V: Iraq. I don’t think this is a good issue for the Republicans, and Palin isn’t their best spokesman for it. She says victory is within sight, so she must have very good eyesight.
UPDATE VI: Biden hits the Pakistan/Iran question out of the park. His experience shows. Palin accuses Obama of naivete. That’s rich. Biden really showing his stuff on the foreign policy issues. The story of the night may not be Palin failing but Biden succeeding.
UPDATE VII: I’m sorry — there is no comparison between these two. One is ready to step into the Oval Office today if necessary. The other ain’t even close. And the American people are more than smart enough to figure that out.
UPDATE VIII: Biden on raising a family as a single parent — very real, and trumps Palin in the process. He is handling the whole thing perfectly. Very impressive.
Conclusion: Biden’s night. Maybe the American people will disagree, but I very much doubt it. And it was Biden’s night because of how well HE did, not because of how poorly Palin did. She did OK, under the circumstances. But there was simply no comparison between the two.
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Comments
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this
Nice digs, but I bet it still takes twenty minutes for a comment to show up. I think I’ll do my live blogging on a live blog and pop in here for quarterly updates.
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
Or maybe we have a new twist and comments won’t appear at all.
By Charles
October 2, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
Maybe you need to tell Joe that, Jay. His ego is bigger than anyone in Washington, including Bill “I did not have relations” Clinton.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this
Ifill still got the wheelchair? We’d all love to hear Hair Plugs say “stand up Gwen, gosh, listen to me..”
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this
Is that uppity Gwen Ifill really the moderator? (Hate tip to Cong. Westmoreland).
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this
My goodness, does she look great or what?
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this
“Can I call you Joe”
I think Sarah isn’t ready….but give her a few years and she will be a force to reckon with.
You go girl…as far as you can now.
You are the cutest neo-con I ever saw!
By Goldie
October 2, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
AmVet — Ifill’s uppityness is certainly prominent tonight. She’s pronouncing all of her nouns and vowels and everything.
By T
October 2, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
She’s doing pretty good. I can understand her, thus far.
By getalife
October 2, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the hospitality Jay.
Like I said, this debate is a snoozer.
By Goldie
October 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
Did I just hear Sarah say the words “heckuva job”???
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
Must be one of those educated liberal elites, Goldie!
Did Ms. Palin really say we need more federal oversight against those predatory lenders?
Damn that Republican socialism…
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this
You tell um Joe, Darn right, Don’t cha know
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this
Mothers across the nation are screaming at their TVs: Get your hair out of your eyes.
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this
Jay B,
I think the story of abject failure you’ve written to post at 10:31 might need some tweaking. Sarah’Cuda without the selective edits is a wee bit different than the caricature ABC, CBS, and oddly NBC even without an interview have given us.
/OK, I know how sensitive you are and I have no evidence to support that vicious accusation. It’s possible you might have waited until 10:45.
By Midori
October 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this
get her Joe!!!
she won’t answer the question!!!
By Goldie
October 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this
I do believe that Palin has out-Cheneyed Cheney tonight. What a dictator. “I don’t care that I haven’t answered the question about deregulation… I’m gonna talk about my record as mayor and governor.”
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this
Funny how the GOP under Bush has spent more money than any administration in the hIstory of the US, and left us in a HUGE deficit. Geez how long can they try to BS about that.
Alaskans got a tax break because they received SO MUCH of the lower 48’s tax money they could afford it.
By T
October 2, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
Anyone think she might cry? She looks really nervous.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this
Oh my, look at Hair Plugs jumping into the water with Jaws over “big oil.”
Watch as he gets eaten.
By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
October 2, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
Sarahcuda has kicked Biden’s rear - watching CNN - Biden is always below the line and Sarah is way above - Saracuda has beaten expectations
By nb
October 2, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
Jay bookman, the reason I won’t pay to read the AJC
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
Sarah Palin note to self: trim my bangs, I am getting a corneal abrasion
By getalife
October 2, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
The ultimate bridge to nowhere.
Bwa.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
Look at this crap, Ifill giving the Surrender Monkeys an opportunity to backpedal.
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this
I love how Ms. Palin ignores the questions and just spouts off whatever her “handlers” gave her
By whatever
October 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this
Unlike the blind eyed dems on this board, I call it like I see it. I watched 15 minutes and Palin was awful. Biden is doing a great job. It actually reminds me of McCain vs. Obama in reverse. One side is poised, articulate and has a wealth of experience in this arena. The other is nervous, scripted, and inexperienced. All I can say is out of the 4 candidates I’d rate them 1. McCain 2. Biden 3. Obama 4. Palin. Just my honest opinion. I actually like Biden. He’s doing a good job of changing my opinion of him tonight, but not enough to vote for the inexperienced Obama.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this
Gee, what an idiotic smile Hair Plugs has.
He really is a lib!
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this
Well I see Jay B has decided to write his 10:31 in updates up top.
I guess that’s smart since that way he doesn’t have to deal with the delay.
Joe is starting to sound like a babbling buffoon. Why does Ifill cut off Governor Palin the second time runs out, but even when Hairplugs says he knows he’s out of time she let’s him ramble until he gets tired of his voice?
By getalife
October 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
She never answers the question.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
Now she refers to undoing “tax breaks” for greedy Big Oil???
A damnable income redistributionist!
Marxist!
By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr
October 2, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this
Question on what you “waht do you have to cut” - Saracuda sealed the deal on this - Bidn looks like an elephant is cornholing him
By Ayana
October 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this
Why is she staring at the camera? Isnt she suppose to look at Gwen?
By T
October 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this
getalife
I had to clean the spit up martini off the floor on that one! LOL.
By Jeff Wheeler
October 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this
Oh man… she’s a mess. I’m jumping ship.
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
I am very afraid Putin might be rearing his head over Alaskan air space while she speaks. MY GOD we may be invaded by the time they are finished
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this
How much do you want to bet that the new story line is that Palin is a moron because she didn’t know how many times Biden was lying?
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this
Joe’s a real sweetheart, inviting Sarah to help with the windfall profits tax. She didn’t look too pleased about that. He’s really doing a great job of gently deflating her even with her totally ignoring the debate rules. Score one for the Democrats for the give and take on windfall profits taxes.
By Goldie
October 2, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this
Sarah’s got to get rid of that nasal twang — owwwww, my ears!
By T
October 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this
getalife
I had to clean the spit up martini off the floor on that one! LOL.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this
Cyclical temperature changes………girlfriend!
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this
I’m sure Sarah Palin isn’t a blithering idiot. She sounds like one tonight though.
The real blithering idiots are the folks defending her, lol, lol, lol.
By Charles
October 2, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
I’d give anything for a LIE buzzer at this debate! My God, it would be going off at every other statement Biden is making (especially concerning McCain’s warnings about the subprime mortagages 2 years ago)! Maybe someone needs to show Biden how to look at YouTube videos to see it for himself. But Liberals don’t use facts - they create their own.
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
Exxon and BP will surely GIVE us the oil on American soil, of course if we happen to be the highest bidder.
By getalife
October 2, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
That had to hurt huh Andy?
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
Ayana,
Sarah’Cuda said she was talking to us and the viewfinder to talk to us is through the camera. Are you afraid she’s being too effective so you want her to look at Gwen now?
Geez, last week your ilk was upset that McCain looked at Lehrer instead of Obambi.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this
To quote GMAN, some cheese with that wine, sir?
UH OH!
She really really stumbled badly with her “she doesn’t know what is causing climate change and lets not argue abut it”?!!!
Biden just killed her with his retort that if you don’t understand it how can you address it.
That is going to hurt.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this
Aahhh, yes, a comment at a ropeline taken out of context, gee, thank you very much, Hair Plugs.
Resume smiling like an idiot.
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this
DID SHE JUST CALL HIM O’BIDEN? OK, thems fighten words Mc B!tch
By getalife
October 2, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this
OMG, she is for teh gays!
There goes the base.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this
Let’s try to avoid nuance?
What a POS.
By Taxpayer
October 2, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this
Sarah is unable to speak on her own. She’s sticking to her script even when it does not fit the questions. Blah blah blah, what a bore.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
Never mind.
Now Hair Plugs is frowning.
bwa
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
Jay,
I agree with you — Biden is 200% ahead on substance.
Palin has stumbled and she’s gotten off course but she’s pulled out the cutesy card a few times and she’s managed to just shut up or ignore the question so she doesn’t look so bad
By T
October 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
Palin says: We need to grow our military.
HOW?
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
Blowhard,
The Presidential candidate on the Democrat ticket says we don’t need to look at what caused the credit/banking crisis we just need to fix it. What are you calling him?
By Goldie
October 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this
“closer to victory” in Iraq, Sarah? What does our Gen. Petraeus say about the word “victory” and why does Sarah hate the General?
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
Don’t forget the Son’s of Iraq on the American payroll not to fight.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
UH OH!
Another HUGE loser for the GOP - Iraq.
Looks like Joe just killed her on that topic.
By JR
October 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
As a true independent I will have to say that these two are just as bad as the two running for president. If these 4 are the best this country can do even God can’t help us!
By haha
October 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
Did she just say Talabani? muhahaha
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this
omg she’s blithering
By T
October 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
Can someone else besides Palin explain to me what “victory” in Iraq really means? The military is asking for more troops in Afgan. where the are losing. We are now going to train tribes in Pakistan.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
Gosh, look at all the libs on this blog arguing the points Sarah was supposedly unable to make.
bwa
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
I’m coming away from this debate with one conclusion I didn’t expect.
Joe Biden isn’t just a highly qualified VP, he’d be a great President.
One conclusion that hasn’t changed: Palin is qualified for neither VP or President.
By Ayana
October 2, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this
Ill bet they have McCain on a respirator and IV
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
Look at Ifill getting angry with Sarah.
What a POS.
By Taxpayer
October 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
Sarah is not winning on the Iraqi front. Surge works! Now there is some real horse poop. Bomb, bomb bomb Iran. Iraq is the center of the war on terror. What a pile of crap from Sarah.
By Borat Obama
October 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
Jay, I didn’t hear Palin say she wasn’t going to answer any questions. Biden is cracking me up with his smile….like…tsk, tsk, tsk….whoooo, now, wait a minute….:-)…this kinda reminds me of watching Fargo…
By getalife
October 2, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this
Joe’s an old pro and doing well.
She is lying like McCain and spewing his talking points.
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.
By haha
October 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
I caught the “talabani” thing to by palin!!! hahahahaha, if mccain is elected and dies, our country is completely screwed
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
Slow down there Sarah, those are mighty big words for ya gal.
back ye up there, Kissinger.
Come on Joe I know you want to say “Sarah-Jane, you ignorant $lut”
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
UH OH!
Another OBVIOUS problem area for the Governor - foreign policy.
Biden’s vast experience and unquestionable knowledge vs. her platitudes is absolutely striking.
It appears he is debating a high schooler on this topic.
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
I like the part just then when she said we should take the word of al Qaida about where we should fight terrorism.
Joe’s killing her with kindness (and doesn’t his hair look nice, too).
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this
haha,
Yes she just said Talabani. She was talking about Jalal Talabani, the President of Iraq.
By Goldie
October 2, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this
I can hear the air now that’s escaping from that popped Palin balloon — say Buh-Bye, McBush!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this
The people of the West Bank would not be allowed to decide their own future under Oblahma Bin Biden?????
By Dee
October 2, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this
Who is Sarah Palin? No matter how much she is drilled, Sarah wears a constant look of confusion. Her overall express- ion says-“What the heck is going on in America?” Did John McCain choose me as a running mate?”
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this
Dat was the bomb!
Bushie, Bushie, Bushie, hahahahahaha.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this
HUGE blunders by this administration!
She looked like she sincerely meant it too.
Well said Governor!
By Goldie
October 2, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this
Oh God — may her stop! She’s saying “nukular weapons”!
By Yevette
October 2, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this
Maybe she should talk about the Talabainy??? Or better yet lets talk about energy…
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
Can’t you just picture poor old Dubya looking around at Laura and wondering why nobody likes him, even his own party?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this
What was the “surge” but more troops, more money more government building?
Is this guy coherent?
Baffled?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
He sighed.
Hello al-Gore.
By Dee
October 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this
Joe Biden had beaten Sarah with facts. She is unfocused and lost. Look in her eyes and watch how Sarah confuses her- self.By Taxpayer
October 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this
McCain was overheard ranting “Now this is what you call gotcha debating!”
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this
So I am the only one who read the book “Three cups of Tea”?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this
I admit I was the first to recommend it?
Full of himself?
By LoooseyGooosey
October 2, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this
also, also, also..
look,` look, look..
Ohhhhhh boy…, WOW!!
By T
October 2, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this
What? Alaska has a 40 billion dollar fund, yet get govmint cheese checks? I don’t get it.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
So why did you vote for the war????????????????
By demwit
October 2, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
Did Joe just give Sarah the finger rubbing his eyebrow!? Rewind!!
By Taxpayer
October 2, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this
Wow. Biden is mopping the floor with Palin on all aspects of foreign policy.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this
It is REALLY risky for her to keep referring to the BLUNDERS in Iraq when McCain is so closely tied to them.
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this
For the people that say that Biden has a better grasp of facts, and that includes our update generator up top, facts and Biden are slippery things. With him you always need a transcript and a good search engine. Once you go through it you’ll find he has his very own set of facts and they can spin on a dime.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this
GREAT move on her part to say that McCain (unlike King George) has not asked her to check her opinions at the door and is not threatened by opposing opinions.
By johnny
October 2, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this
i just don’t understand why he choose her to be his running mate…when he first met her, didn’t he realize how bad she was…i’m confused can somebody tell me why he choose her
By G
October 2, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this
Palin’s so out of her league here. She is pathetic.
Biden’s doing great, he knows his stuff.
Palin just said “we’re a team of mavericks.” I may puke.
Obama/Biden ‘08
By jon
October 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this
Sarah is refreshing to say the least. Have you people noticed what our august Senate leaders have done this week? They tacked another $150 billion of other people’s money onto the so called bailout, to buy votes.
There is at least one person involved in the executive branch election that is not white, male, and a member of the Senate.
(BO is just as white as he is black.)
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this
She didn’t just say “Joe, there you go again.”
Oh, god.
McCain had to cringe.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this
She’s killing this clown, all he’s got is moonbat talking points, the crowd even knows it.
By getalife
October 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this
She is giving shout out dog gone it.
Too funny.
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this
This post pulled for language.
By Taxpayer
October 2, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this
Sarah would have been better off stopping after the Joe six-pack remark.
By Charles
October 2, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this
Is there a mercy rule in debates? Sarah is KILLING Biden! Oh, the humanity!!!!!!!! Someone stop the debate before Joe is killed politically!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this
Hair Plugs says we haven’t funded education.
Huh.
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 2, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
She’s a hell of a gal.
I might enjoy hearing from Sarah Palin in years to come. Mrs. Six Pack deserves to be heard and she does a damn fine job.
However much I love the Mrs. Six Pack(s) in my life, I don’t want them to be a heart beat away from the nuclear football.
Reduced expectations aside, Biden is sitting back and ever so gently showing her the door.
But damn, I’d love to have her for dinner.
Flat out wrong or not, I like strong women.
I’m really proud to be voting for Barack Obama and Joe Biden. All of us are about to make history
All over this country, all over this planet, good hearted people are smiling.
Night all.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
Andy, I guess he had the same “faulty intelligence” that the administration had!
HA!
She is folksy and likable.
No question.
The complete antithesis of the Dickhead Cheney.
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this
If anybody needs a really good clue as to who is kicking but in this debate look no further than Jay B’s increasingly desperate updates. LOL
By G
October 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
Somehow, I don’t know why, but somehow I expected Palin to do better than this.
She’s hopeless. She’s a know-nothing, and it shows, big time.
By Taxpayer
October 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
Bottom line: Your Update VII, Jay. That’s enough for me.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney, Bushie, Cheney.
Moonbats.
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this
I’m not so sure they want her back in Alaska after this. LOL. LOL. LOL.
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this
Why do I expect the energizer bunny to roll across the stage?
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this
How great was it that Sen. Biden looked right in the camera and said forcefully, “Dick Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president in American history”.
We know, Joe. We know.
By Just_Me
October 2, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
….She’s not much on specifics, is she?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this
Hair Plugs cried!!!!
This is who will be taking on Putin???
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this
WOW<,St ROnnie did not get mentioned for 20 whole minutes
By XXX
October 2, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
Please, Please send her back to the trailer park
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
Senator Biden didn’t have to hit a home run. But he did. And it was a grand slam.
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
Biden went to the tear card???? OMG
Update 14 or whatever we’re up to. It didn’t work for Hillary against Barry so should we let Joe’s tears work against Sarah’Cuda?
By getalife
October 2, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
I agree Jay.
Joe is ready and she just learned the talking points.
By Just_Me
October 2, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this
Guess what? Ask anyone who works in education-we can tell you, we’re UNDERFUNDED!
Budgets slashed—teachers paying in excess-on average, $500/yr on supplies for their classrooms.
I have the receipts to prove it (and lucky girl, I am, I get to claim a whoppin’ $250!)
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this
This woman wasn’t supposed to be able to even speak.
You believed that BS?
She scalped your boy.
Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this
OOPS!
DO NOT MENTION RUDY OR MITT!!
You’re shooting yourself in the foot, Governor!
As for those “desperate” update, number 7 says it all…
By G
October 2, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
Just_Me at 10:22
No, she’s definitely not.
Obama/Biden ‘08
By "The Corporal"
October 2, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this
* Time for some honesty here *
Of the four candidates, here is the order of who is most qualified to be President of the United States.
Note: Qualified doesn’t mean they should be based on policy positions.
1) John McCain 2) Joe Biden 3) Barack Obama/Sarah Palin (tied)
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this
UPDATE VII: I’m sorry — there is no comparison between these two. One is ready to step into the Oval Office today if necessary. The other ain’t even close. And the American people are more than smart enough to figure that out.
Is there a parallel debate going on that Kookman is watching?
By Midori
October 2, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this
thank God Biden put that “maverick” crap to bed.
By GOPs got to go
October 2, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this
How dare you a*******holes say one thing about a man who lost his wife and child in a terrible accident still having emotion about it. What Jerks!
By Jim
October 2, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this
Talabani is the founder of an Iraqi Kurdish poloticsl psrty. Sarah knows what she’s talking about. You may not.
By Ted Striker
October 2, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this
Corporal - After that comment, you’ve just been busted down to buck Private
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC-M,
Jay B is playing guitar hero with the neighbors. There’s not a chance in hell he’s watching this debate unless he’s as big an idiot as his followers.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
Oh good, Hair Plugs wants a house for everybody!
More of the same.
Bail out Part Duex?
By Jim
October 2, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
Talabani is the founder of an Iraqi Kurdish political party. Sarah knew what she was talking about…..perhaps you didn’t.
A Democrat who has to give her credit.
By jon
October 2, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
Jay,
If Americans were smart enough to figure anything out, none of these four clowns would be in the race.
Just think about how dumb the average American is, then remember that half of the Americans are dumber than that.
Presidential elections are popularity contests - and your man BO is certainly the celebrity du-jour. Congratulations. When he takes office and institutes massive spending programs - estimated at over $2 trillion in new Federal spending, and massive taxes to pay for them, everything will be alright.
And when Iran gets The Bomb, BO will go sit down and reason with them. We all know that Islamofacists respect community organizers.
And since glitter and glitz, BS and pandering, is what gets every politician elected in these days of immense American Idol popularity while PBS struggles, you can be proud of “The Chosen One”.
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
What a great time to be an American!
Let the spinning begin!!!
By AJC/DNC Management
October 2, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this
RW: She was amazing.
She took her revenge on all of them.
Biden will be fact checked to death tomorrow.
Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!
By Hmmmmm
October 2, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this
She handed Senator Biden his NUTS on a platter. All you people who think she is a joke, are DELUSIONAL! She will make a GREAT Washington outsider, the kind of person that can hopefully shake those political insiders up!
By "The Corporal"
October 2, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this
To Striker
And you sir are entitled to your opinion.
By Midori
October 2, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this
the only thing Palin has shown us tonight is she is good at memorizing talking points, and not very good at answering questions.
you wingnuts are idiots.
grasping at straws, when all you have to do is go to Publix and buy some.
By RB from Gwinnett
October 2, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this
Jay, did you wait until the debate to write all those “updates” or did you write them this afternoon? They look a lot like everything you’ve been saying about her for the last 2 weeks; nothing positive, nothing new. Same old crap. Jay, the city of Atlanta deserves better from it’s only paper.
By jp
October 2, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this
All of this is worthless, it’s just a publicity stunt. These polls don’t matter. people have already made up their minds as to who their going to vote for. Georgia will be a red state no matter what so it doesn’t matter what the AJC says. But on the same token Obama is going to win this election and it doesn’t matter what anyone else says. Mccain is simply too old and Palin is too young. Where is Mitt Romeny when you need him? or where is Colin Powell?
By AmVet
October 2, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this
Talabani was not a George Bushism, true.
But General McClelland???
A truly lovely woman.
And a great American.
Just not NEARLY ready for the awesome responsibility of leading the free world should a President McCain die or become incapacitated.
And that may well be a deal breaker for most non neo-con Americans…
By G
October 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this
Practiced, practiced, practiced.
Everything Palin said that was memorized or on her notes, she said fairly well, but when she didn’t have a memorized answer, she stumbled and seemed at a loss.
Also, I didn’t hear her give one straight answer to any of the questions, just general rhetoric.
Good thing the bar was set so low for her.
Obama/Biden ‘08
By drew
October 2, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC = Biggest Blog Dumbazz Ever.
Geeeeez, man…do you have no shame??? Your ignorance knows no bounds.
I guess you’ll be spouting about how McCain/Palin kicked azz in the election, after Obama/Biden wins it.
And how come every time Sarah Palin opens her mouth, I’m think…”Fargo”?
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this
Hang on to your stupidity, Management, it’s about the only thing you got left.
Wonder if the call to Mitt has gone out already?
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this
Hang on to your stupidity, Management, it’s about the only thing you got left.
Wonder if the call to Mitt has gone out already?
By Fraederick Douglass
October 2, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this
Biden was terrific, but what’s a Bosniack? Palin kind of reminded me of when I’d memorized the lines for my school play,and I talked real fast before they leaked out of my head.
By Mr Snarky
October 2, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
Palin wasn’t a total bomb, but she came across as reciting talking points. She didn’t seem even remotely thoughtful about questions. Biden seemed more measured. No game changers here.
By Debra
October 2, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
I think they both seem like really nice people.
Who is this ‘McCain’ loser they kept talking about?
By T
October 2, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this
I like the lady. She said she wouldn’t bash me. Sucks rights could end from state to state, but whatever.
By JAY BOOKMAN
October 2, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this
Interestingly, Jim Wooten has much the same reaction I did.
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 2, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this
PARDON ME…I was wandering about the web looking at reactions and just saw Jim Wootens post…..
Best pop over and take a peak.
By sunshine and thunder
October 2, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this
IS BIDEN A LAWYER?
I believe he got his articles wrong. Hey Jay and all you left nuts! Biden is incredibly unprepared to be a heartbeat away, right?
The VP role is addressed in article III of the Constitution, not article I as Biden suggested.
Oh, and there’s nothing bizaare about the VP having legislative powers. Nothing in the Constitution prohibits it. DUH!
I guess, using the same standard that you moonbats use, he really got caught in the headlights.
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this
Midori, good points, but I think Sarah taught us one other thing: Republicans think the rules don’t apply to them
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 2, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this
Damn Jay! You’re Good!
By Ray
October 2, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this
Ms G,
You have restored my faith in you. Nice comments.
By nobama
October 2, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this
*By JAY BOOKMAN
October 2, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this
Interestingly, Jim Wooten has much the same reaction I did.*
That;s cos he sucks too. If either of you were worth a damn, you wouldn’t be working for the AJC.
By Michael H. Smith
October 2, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this
Jay (in the tank for Obama)
I can see Tina Fey from my sofa. How unfortunate I can see Joe “MBNA” Biden too.
That’s what I’m talking about.
By Mary
October 2, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this
Good debate - new kid on the block and old timer. Impressed by Palin’s composure as she is not Washington experienced. Palin hit it on the head —let’s learn from Congress’s past mistakes and look to the future. Loved the after debate friendliness of candidates and family. Biden outscored Obama’s appearance - again he is experienced. Biden didn’t debate Palin tonight as much as he kept “debating” Mc Cain. 60 something times he mentioned Mc Cain - Palin mentioned Obama 18 times.Palin reached out to the folks in middle class who will be voting. Concerning Palin’s remark regarding the “white flag” waving, Biden didn’t address it. Got to give Biden a nod concerning “bridge to nowhere” remark — we knew that was coming. Whether Palin wins the election or not, I think she is a diamond in the rough and we will see more of her in the future.Bottom line, folks. Mortgage companies, Wall Street, fat cat CEOs and Congress got us here. No matter who gets in, we need change.
By Truth
October 2, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this
Why in the world will the Republicans NEVER bring up that McCain was one of TWO Republicans who voted AGAINST Bush’s tax cuts!
By Just_Me
October 2, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this
The local ABC station hosted a debate viewing opportunity for undecided viewers.
They just finished analyzing their comments…
Guess what? The undecideds overwhelmingly said they are going for Obama/Biden.
Some folks are saying that Palin won by “not losing.” Really? Are our standards so low that all a person has to do is NOT lose to win? What? Is this T-ball where everyone gets a trophy just for showing up????
Yep. Georgians are turning the tide…
My Aussie’s nudging me-ready for her evening walk that has been pushed ‘til after the debates….
I’m sure the debate will rage on here too.
By Midori
October 2, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this
Mike Hussein - take a gander at the Wooten blog.
they are about to slit their wrists!!!
SOME FOLKS JUST CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
:)
By Mrs.Godzilla
October 2, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this
Ray
Thanks.
Someday I’m going to have grandkids, and the world I/We leave them is the last big goal of my life.
We may disagree and yes I do get “cross”, but you can have faith in me.
I’m not a bad old girl, just fiesty.
Thanks again.
By Michael H. Smith
October 2, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this
No matter who gets in the White House among this lot, we will not get the change we need.
That’s what I’m talking about.
By change1
October 2, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this
Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago, 221 killed in Iraq.
Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin,
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.,
Gov. Rod Blogojevich,
House leader Mike Madigan,
Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),
Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of former Mayor Richard J. Daley)…..
the leadership in Illinois…..all Democrats.
Chicago is a combat zone. Of course they’re all blaming each other.
Can’t blame Republicans, there aren’t any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look’em up if you want). Chicago school system one of the worst in country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from!
He’s gonna ‘fix’ Washington politics? Yeah, right!
By Dennis C. Brown
October 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
What a surprise????? Bookman saying “The story of the night may not be Palin failing but Biden succeeding.” Me thinks he had that statement written and ready to be cut and pasted well before 9 pm tonight.
By Greg Mendel
October 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
This was just like the Lincoln-Douglas debates. Except that Lincoln didn’t use the word “maverick” 50,000 times.
Sure enough, David Brooks said — wait for it — “She held her own.”
For what passes as modern political debate and dialog in America, the Barracuda did well enough. In the rational world, a candidate boasting that being a middle class mother qualifies her to hold the second highest office in the USA would be laughed off the stage — by the other gazillion similarly qualified women.
But, this is not the rational world. It’s TV Land.
By Mike
October 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
Were we watching the same debate? I thought Palin did great. Biden was fine as well. Of course Biden is going to sound smoother……he’s one of the OLDEST political retreads around….U realize yall, he’s run for President before….here’s a hint….he didnt get the Democratic Nomination…….At least you have to give Palin credit for being new and fresh faced in the political arena. I liked her. Im leaning to McCain Palin now.
Gnite folks.
By Tom
October 2, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
Sarah talked and talked and talked and…said nothing. Was rehearsed to speak of several things, and to hell with the actual questions asked. She avoided them. It’s sad that she’s a woman. She does not represent most American women - only SIX-PACK women. And had she not been a woman, Biden would have chewed her up and spat her out. But then, the inferior Repugs will see what they choose to see. Ignorance on the march. With pretend-hero McShame. The beat goes on!
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the tip, Midori.
NEWS, WE GOT NEWS: The CBS poll of undecideds had Biden winning the debate 46-21, with 33 percent calling it a tie. But few votes were moved as as result. Among the undecideds, 18 percent committed to Obama, and 10 percent committed to McCain, but 71 percent remained uncommitted.
By Just_Me
October 2, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
I’ve long since felt (since the Luckovich blog, r.i.p.) that you and i must be separated at birth somehow.
;-)
Read your comments yesteday re: NPR. I listen to all the same programs you do.
I’ve yet to disagree with any of your posts as well.
I also hope that my darling babies (18 and 21) will one day provide me with grandchildren. It would be nice if they didn’t inherit a cesspool created by today’s governmental practices.
By RB from Gwinnett
October 2, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this
Sounds to me like all you liberals are just sexist pigs.
By nobama
October 2, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
Biden’s Dad said, “Champ, get back up.” That’s what he’s trying to do now.
It’s bad when you’ve been in Congress for 36 years and you don’t know the constitution.
I know personal responsibility is a foreign concept to you dems, but you may want to look into it…it beats the hell out of whining and depending on the government.
Now, if McCain will just call Obama out on Fannie/Freddie, William Ayers and his sugar-daddy Rezko.
By mike hussein smith
October 2, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this
Memo to David Brooks: Held her own what?
By Midori
October 2, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this
RB —
Let me say this so that you’ll understand: OINK, OINK
By art
October 2, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this
Mr. Bookman:
Your liberal attitude and unabashed support of some cretin who has little experience in the Senate and no record of legislation worth mentioning is a disgrace to the AJC. Then again, Anne Cox’s support of the Democratic Party is well-known, so you have the freedom to spew your disgusting agenda.
Simply put, most American are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. The party you support, Jay, is fiscally and socially liberal. The Republican Party, destroyed by NeoConmen, is now fiscally liberal and socially conservative.
The bottom line is that our two-party system is not only out of touch with Americans but also rotten to the core.
How any intelligent person can support either of these parties is incredible to me. Then again, most people, including you Jay and excepting me, are only of average IQ (100). That’s why you supported Gore. That’s why others supported Bush. Both were men of average or below average intelligence.
The stupid electorate and the corrupt two-party system that has convinced them to be unwilling to support good, independent candidates (if there ever are any) will be the death of America.
Will somebody who really represents America please run for office??? Ron Paul, that means you!!!
By Chuck
October 2, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this
Jay, you and Cynthia would shill for Obama or Satan himself if they ran under the Democrat banner. Who they are or what they have accomplished mean nothing…only that there is a (D) next to their name. You can’t EVER fault a democrat! Which makes you look foolish.
By Barack Hussein Obama
October 2, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this
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By Michael H. Smith
October 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this
Glad Joe Biden and I didn’t have the same father. As mine further advised: You get back up and hit the person who knock you down twice as hard as they hit you!
Proof positive Joe Biden really doesn’t get diplomacy in the world of the rough and ready.
That’s what I’m talking about.
By Dusty
October 2, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this
Sarah Palin was GREAT!! She covered all the territory and did it with pzazz, smarts and all the good experience her governship has given her.
Biden looked tired. I was not surprised that he cried. He probably cried again when he got home. Palin outspoke him so evergetically while all he could remember was what Bush did. Sarah had to remind him twice that he was looking backwards.
I see all the libs here are making little jokes. That’s better than having them cry too. After all, they are trying to raise their morale after being faced with a smart, successful conservative, good looking woman who beat the socks off of Biden. (She is also PATRIOTIC, AmVet, and proud of it!)
I like Joe Biden, even when he’s spouting all of Obama’s cliches. But he was outdone tonight. Sorry, Joe, but Palin beat you at your game of Washington politics.
She’s new! She’s smart! She’s the WINNER!
By Dottie
October 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
PALIN WON, HANDS DOWN!
btw paperboy…I mean Bookman, I expected you to pick Biden..you always pick wrong, and in contrast to the majority of this state :)
By Peter
October 2, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
Poor…….By AJC/DNC Management …..like Palin no substance tonight !
By Maryanne
October 2, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this
Palin’s inexperience showed when discussing foreign policy. I had to laugh when she said ‘the Castro brothers’ were a direct threat to us—-wake up Sarah, Cuba hasn’t been a threat to us in over 40 years!!
By mike hussein smith
October 3, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this
Wow, Wooten threw in the towel with a full 30 minutes left in the debate. Ain’t that sad?
By Midori
October 3, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this
Wow Dusty - you’re up pretty late.
Got your cauldron on auto pilot?
By Jay Bookman
October 3, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this
By Dottie
October 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
PALIN WON, HANDS DOWN!
btw paperboy…I mean Bookman, I expected you to pick Biden..you always pick wrong, and in contrast to the majority of this state :)
Paperboy? R U kidding? I think Jay’s wrist is too limp to throw a newsapaper.
By getalife
October 3, 2008 12:08 AM | Link to this
Surprised to see Jim Wooten finally tell the truth.
Joe Biden will be good for our country as VP.
By Fraederick Douglass
October 3, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this
Sarah was right, the Castro brothers are a threat to us, apparently some of you haven’t had to listen to an off key mariachi band.
By Dusty
October 3, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this
Well, no Midori, I had to stay around and watch the fun.
Biden looked whacked out. And Sarah looked so smart and lively!! Quick on everything. A WINNER!
But stick around. I’ve got some CROW cooked for you. Enjoy!!!
By Greg Mendel
October 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this
Dottie thinks Palin won, hands down. David Brooks said “she held her own.” Let’s split the difference: Palin won, holding her own hands down.
By georgia mom
October 3, 2008 12:47 AM | Link to this
For goodness sakes, put that baby to bed!
By Robert
October 3, 2008 1:22 AM | Link to this
Good ole Joe Stalin would Love all of these nice bloggers.
By whatever
October 3, 2008 1:41 AM | Link to this
JAY
Remember this:
PALIN is more inexperienced than Biden and is a HEARTBEAT away from the Presidency.
OBAMA is far more inexperienced than McCAIN AND BIDEN and is a VOTE away from the Presidency.
Get it? Got it.
By Billy
October 3, 2008 2:24 AM | Link to this
Palin clearly held her own stylistically, but Biden was the one who has obvious mastery of the subjects that would be needed by someone in high office.
I am not surprised to see the comments I’ve read here. It was clear to me throughout that Palin’s performance would energize the Republican base, and the lack of a gaffe on Biden’s part indicated he wouldn’t drive anyone away. That bit at the end when he got choked up about his family will, I think, resonate with the “small town, undecided voter” every bit as much as the “Hockey Mom” BS, especially when combined with his own small-town roots and relatively modest wealth. The polls immediately after showed undecided voters thought Biden won by a margin of about 2 to 1.
I’m inclined to agree with them. No, I’m not undecided in the least — I’ll vote for Cynthia McKinney before I’ll vote for McCain — but my assessment of it has less to do with being partisan than with being a little bit of a policy wonk. Biden knows his stuff. Palin, not so much. Sure, she seemed knowledgeable, but there wasn’t much substance to her answers. (Few of which were to the actual questions asked of her.) Even when she had a potentially good line going, such as calling Biden out on repeatedly bringing up Bush/Cheney, she didn’t actually offer any specifics as to how their policies would be any different from Bush’s.
And the whole expansion of Vice Presidential powers? Scary after the VP we’ve had the past 8 years…
IMHO, if Palin won this debate it wasn’t that she beat Biden, but that she beat the Palin of the past couple of weeks. She exceeded expectations, stopping the campaign’s recent bleeding. But the bar was set incredibly low, and it’s just a temporary fix, a bandage on a deep wound. She may have stopped the campaign’s free fall, but another bad outing and the bandage gets ripped off, the bleeding starts up again, and McCain falls even farther.
By Mike
October 3, 2008 5:24 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin just proved how disastrously unqualified she is. She barely addressed the questions at all, and certainly did not debate. She merely recited the slogans and “taljking points” she had learned, like a robot.
By Mike
October 3, 2008 5:24 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin just proved how disastrously unqualified she is. She barely addressed the questions at all, and certainly did not debate. She merely recited the slogans and “talking points” she had learned, like a robot.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 3, 2008 5:25 AM | Link to this
Not a good night for Palin’s team
By Jim Wooten | Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:12 PM
Jim: Was that part of the “continuing employment” agreement?
A pre packaged surrender monkey column posted before the debate was even over?
Before you got to see Sarah reduce Hair Plugs to tears?
You were writing a column while she was ridiculing One Track Mind over his Bush Derangement Syndrome?
Whatever.
America won lost night, riding Sarah’s coat tails.
Now it’s time to fact check Biden into the ground.
By Mike
October 3, 2008 5:31 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin just proved how disastrously unqualified she is. She barely addressed the questions at all, and certainly did not debate. She merely recited the slogans and “talking points” she had learned, like a robot.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 3, 2008 5:35 AM | Link to this
Like I was saying, look at the Urinal “Fact Check,” they slam everything Hair Plugs said:
BIDEN: Complained about “economic policies of the last eight years” that led to “excessive deregulation.”
THE FACTS: Biden voted for 1999 deregulation that liberal groups are blaming for part of the financial crisis today.
But that didn’t stop them from trying to twist the words of Sarah:
PALIN: “Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell.”
THE FACTS: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska led an effort in 2005 to tighten regulation on the mortgage underwriters —- McCain joined as a co-sponsor a year later.
Need I do the math for you?
Biden lied like a rug or maybe he just doesn’t know?
By AJC/DNC Management
October 3, 2008 5:47 AM | Link to this
It’s puzzling to see, however, that the moment a person does walk onto the stage with that genuine, down-to-earth flair, she’s dismissed as gimmicky and stupid. This is probably because those speaking to her haven’t really tried to talk to someone like her in years.-AmSpec
bwa
By AJC/DNC Management
October 3, 2008 5:51 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin saved John McCain again Thursday night. She is the political equivalent of cardiac paddles: Clear! Zap! We’ve got a beat! She will re-electrify the base. More than that, an hour and a half of talking to America will take her to a new level of stardom. Watch her crowds this weekend. She’s about to get jumpers, the old political name for people who are so excited to see you they start to jump.-Noonan, WSJ
bwa
By Abbott
October 3, 2008 6:21 AM | Link to this
Were you watching the same debate? Oh yeah, you were watching the debate through your AJC left wing radical, ultra liberal filter. That explains it..
By Mark
October 3, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this
Why is discussion of Palin’s family off limits but it’s OK for her to drag them out at every occassion for political show-and-tell? The next thing you know she will be breast feeding in public just to prove that she’s a “hockey mom”.
By buck
October 3, 2008 6:53 AM | Link to this
joe almost cried when he realized SARAH was kicking his A$$
By drew
October 3, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this
AJC/DNC…so there you are. When I saw no sign of you on Wootens blog, I was afraid you might have committed hari-kari in response to your Girl’s showing last night.
I’m relieved to see that you’ve not lost a step, have your blinders and biases strapped on tight, and continiue to provide amusement for the bloggers. I admire the way you never let reality rain on your little world.
Biden looked and appeared Presidential. Palin looked and appeared lost, trying desperately to spit out her talking points at the right time.
And why is it that everytime Palin opens her mouth, ya know, I have a “Fargo” deja-vu experience…it’s a heckava feeling darn it, ya know.
As far as the election, it’s pretty much over now. Game, set, match Obama/Biden.
I’m going to enjoy reading AJC/DNC and Dusty’s posts from here on out, as they twist and squirm while watching there party sink into the bog they’ve created.
Ya know? OK, then.
By Dave
October 3, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry but Palin just makes me get a warm fuzzy curl up in the bed with her kind of feeling … Biden makes me want to keep a distance around him just in case …
By drew
October 3, 2008 7:05 AM | Link to this
Darn it, Bookmans Homie…funniest post of the day! Even funnier than AJC/DNC’s stuff, which is usually pretty funny, ya know. Heckava job there, maverick.
OK, then.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 3, 2008 7:17 AM | Link to this
By drew October 3, 2008 6:54 AM AJC/DNC…When I saw no sign of you on Wootens blog Biden looked and appeared Presidential. Palin looked and appeared lost, trying desperately to spit out her talking points at the right time.
You may want to check this out, but you just made the same argument for Sarah that the libs made all last week for Oblahma’s debate performance.
And according to you, he “won.”
I tend to agree about the vice presidential backside, and was actively wishing Fox would quit showing that fine thing as it was ruining my concentration, but even more than that, did anyone else notice the industrial strength denture whitening that Hair Plugs has undergone, while he was standing there smiling like an idiot?
It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode.
By Steve Lewis
October 3, 2008 7:26 AM | Link to this
Jay,
Why can’t we find out which Senators introduced the added $1.5 trillion to the bailout package? They should have their heads served on a platter. Who were they and which added items are theirs??
By AJC comparted
October 3, 2008 7:27 AM | Link to this
The only Seinfeld episode Duhng remembers is the master of his domain episode. In real life, Duhng lost a similar contest after he saw his sister….
By bobfromcanton
October 3, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this
Same sh** different day Jay! Got nothing to say that might be even neutral about the lady. If that had been Obama against O-Biden you would have lapped up Obama. It is called White Guilt. You have been drinkin the kool-aid too long!
By Dawggy Style
October 3, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this
In spite of Jay’s constant campaigning for the left, I’m still willing to take my chances with the POSSIBILITY of Palin as President as opposed to the CERTAINTY of Obama! I can’t make it any simpler than that for those of you that can actually read and think for yourselves.
By AJC/DNC Management
October 3, 2008 7:38 AM | Link to this
Sarah carpet bombed that as-s:
No, in fact, when we talk about the Bush administration, there’s a time, too, when Americans are going to say, “Enough is enough with your ticket,” on constantly looking backwards, and pointing fingers, and doing the blame game.
It is because they do not have anything else to offer.
They are empty headed dimwit moonbat talking point regurgitating dullards, Monday morning quarterbacks, who on Sunday were handing the ball off to the Bush administration.
Biden voted for “Bushie’s war.”
Biden voted for “deregulation.”
It’s all they got, babbling about things in the past that can’t be “changed.”
Think about this for a minute; how many times has Lord High Dimwit changed his position so that it is exactly the same as Bush’s?
Surveillance?
Tax cuts?
The “bail out?”
More of the same, eh?
By hotlanta
October 3, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this
I have only been on the job 5 weeks. I guess boot camp debate folks lost their mind. Joe shut it down. You go boy!!!!!!
By hotlanta
October 3, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this
I have only been on the job 5 weeks. I guess boot camp debate folks lost their mind. Joe shut it down. You go boy!!!!!!
By hotlanta
October 3, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this
I have only been on the job 5 weeks. I guess boot camp debate folks lost their mind. Joe shut it down. You go boy!!!!!!
By Palin WINS
October 3, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this
Hands down, Palin gets the sale. Both walk into my office and I’m buying what she’s selling.
Biden knows every detail about his products and should be in engineering but then drops 10 or more lies as he strains to sell. Palin gets me to trust her by speaking plainly and I know she’s got the right product for me.
Palin could be President. Biden looks like a used car salesman you’ll hate to talk with.
By newsman
October 3, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this
Bookman, just wondering,,,,do you get “chills up your leg” when Obama/Biden talk? As a so called journalist, you’re a complete failure.
By Shawn C.
October 3, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this
I very much agree Jay, she even admitted she was new and could standup and compare to what Biden was saying. I am so glad they went over her questions and answers with her before the debate!! Biden won!!
By hillbilly ragger
October 3, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
Mornin’ rational people. You too, wingnuts. Just had a chance to scan to carnage from last night’s comments.
Bookman’s @ 7.04am, your post reminded me of something I pondered myself.
For all the talk of “hairplug Joe” having the audacity to face political reality and have some surgical work done (in his case, hair transplants) to make himself more appealing to the voters, is there anyone here who thinks Gov. Palin HASN’T had some nips and tucks?
(Not that there’s anything wrong with that. But get real.)
By hillbilly ragger
October 3, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this
Dawggy Style, is your nym related to the way you’ve been taking it from Bush/Cheney all these years?
By hillbilly ragger
October 3, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G @ 10.17: “However much I love the Mrs. Six Pack(s) in my life, I don’t want them to be a heart beat away from the nuclear football.”
Or the Nuke-you-lar one, either.
What is the deal with hayseeds and that word, anyway? Where do you go to learn that particular mispronunciation? Is it the same place you go to learn “Eck-specially” and “Eck-cetera?” And maybe “Aks?” Arghh!
By leftin2
October 3, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
Tried my best to give her a chance, but can’t vote for anyone who smiled the whole time while giving their thoughts on Iran, Iraq, nukes and the economy. She attempted to talk tough, but smiled the whole time. She is simply not ready to lead this country - and the VP must be ready when elected, not at some point in the future.
And sad to see that her boss decided that he can’t win over the hockey moms in Michigan. If they can’t do it in Hockeytown USA with Palin on the ticket, where do they think the votes will come from? Conceding Michigan with its 17 electoral votes to concentrate on Maine with 4 doesn’t make much sense. But, then again, my degree was in chemistry, not math.
By AmVet
October 3, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
51 -36.
Not close, but not your what-has-become-typical neo-con a*******whipping either.
(CNN) — A national poll of people who watched the vice presidential debate Thursday night suggests that Democratic Sen. Joe Biden won, but also says Republican Gov. Sarah Palin exceeded expectations.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. said 51 percent of those polled thought Biden did the best job, while 36 percent thought Palin did the best job.
The candidates sparred over which team would be the better agent of change, and Biden came out on top of that debate, with 53 percent of those polled giving the nod to the Delaware senator while 42 percent said Palin was more likely to bring change.
Respondents overwhelmingly said moderator Gwen Ifill was fair during the vice presidential debate, repudiating critics who said that Ifill, of PBS, would be biased because she is writing a book that includes Biden’s running mate, Sen. Barack Obama.
Ninety-five percent of those polled said Ifill was fair.
Andy being in that “sensitive” 5%.
By Dawggy Style
October 3, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Hillbilly Ragger? - Best to not even ask how you acquired that moniker! I have my suspicions … and your wife doesn’t seem to mind it from behind!
AGAIN:
In spite of Jay’s constant campaigning for the left, I’m still willing to take my chances with the POSSIBILITY of Palin as President as opposed to the CERTAINTY of Obama! I can’t make it any simpler than that for those of you that can actually read and think for yourselves.
By drew
October 3, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
I honestly am not overly impressed with either of the major party tickets. I would love to see the rise of a legitimate 3rd party, but until that happens I’ll vote for the candidates that at least seem to possess a minimum level of intelligence.
The most serious deficit of the Bush administration is a simple lack of intelligence (see Iraq, see Afghanistan, see Katrina, see Wall Street, etc.). Most presidents can overcome their shortcomings by placing smart advisors in key positions. Unfortunately, Bush chose mostly to surround himself with idealogues and yes men, and we’ve seen where that gets you.
Regardless of what you think about their policies, experience, and idealogies, at least Oboma/Biden will bring a higher level of intelligence to the oval office.
By jack l
October 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Biden, like his running mate last week, looked, acted, and sounded presidential. He had a grasp of facts and conveyed them in a logical, well-thought out manner. Conversely, Palin continues to show her inexperience and her joe-six-pack folksy charm, that though engaging in a supermarket, has no place when you represent the United States of America. I cannot imagine Palin negotiating with world leaders tackling the world’s or even the nation’s problems. It takes more than coaching, it takes real instincts, temperment, judgement, knowledge, and wisdom, attributes entirely missing in both Mccain and Palin.
By Pompano
October 3, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Was there even a remote chance that Jay or Cythia “racist” Tucker would actually write anything favorable about Gov Palin?
Jay has to play his “all white people are racist except me” schtick (except when it comes to scoring tickets to the Masters - then he pretends to be one of the good old’boys).
The AJC has assembled the most pathetic editorial staff imaginable. That’s why more people now buy the AJC for the coupons it contains or to line their cat litter boxes.
By another vet
October 3, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
To American Vet - your comment “Is that uppity Gwen still the commentator” is either racist or shows an incredible lack of sensitivity. I was raised in south Georgia and the uppity was invariably followed by the n word. Come on, we are better than that. She is a competent journalist that did a great job in a nonpartisan way. Rep. Westmoreland introduced this racism into the campaign. Let’s stop it now
By bush go away
October 3, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
If anyone is saying “hands down, Palin gets the sale” then we’ve proven on thing: P.T. Barnum was right.
By CP
October 3, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Go figure, some GA rednecks posting here are still hung up on race.
Palin is a disgrace. She did not debate last night, she recited memorized lines. McCain showed incredibly poor judgement in picking this dunce of a hockey mom. “Country First” my a**.
Soon reublicans will go the way of the dinosaurs. Day by day their sad chapter in American history is coming to a close. We’ll always have their legacy of bigotry and stupidity.
By lovelyliz
October 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
I want my date to flirt with me NOT my vice president.
By Please Vote
October 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
I am a staunch Democrat. That said, I think the bar was so low for Palin because of horrible interviews this week. She did so much better than most people thought. Does this mean she is qualified? Can she step into the office of the Presidency tomorrow? Did she have command of the issues? how about facts? She is a very likable person but so are many of my friends - they are not qualified for this position. I believe the debate was won by Joe Biden and I’m really trying to be independant in my thinking. He has been in so many debates before and had so much going for him before it started it was an uphill climb for Palin. She didn’t do bad but she didn’t answer alot of the questions always turning back to energy because that is what she knows best. We the American people must decide who will try to get us out of the mess we are in. Please get to know the issues, study the consequences and vote your conscience. This country is in very bad shape.
By CommunistAJC
October 3, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Jay Hackman, I’d take a hockey mom who’s cleaned up her state over a community organizer and a known gaffer any day. I find it hilarious that dems cry foul when it comes to Palin YET THEIR OWN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE. Joe Biden AND Hillary Clinton have said on national television that Barrack Hussein Obama has ZERO experience. Four years in the senate? Doing what? He voted PRESENT more than he voted on real legislation. WOW! Some candidate Jay.
Geraldine Ferraro said it best.
By CommunistAJC
October 3, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Please Vote, Um…So, with that thought do you think OBAMA is ready? Four years as a state senator is hardly enough experience. This country is in bad shape because of POLITICIANS! She is the only outsider in the campaign. Not Obama, not Biden and not Mac. I will vote my conscience. I will vote for the person who has fought for his country. I will vote for the person who knows how many states are in the US. I will vote for the person who does not go to a racist church.
By No_Osama08
October 3, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin did look nervous at first, but she calmed down as it went on and she did great! She had Biden on the defensive the whole time.
PALIN WON DEBATE!
By reservoirDAWG
October 3, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
If the current democrats were like the democrats of our parents it might be a different story. These current democrats are jokes. They make me sick with their socialist views and policies. I am to the point now that if Obama is elected I hope he is assasinated. There,I said what a majority thinks.
By Condorcet
October 3, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Any open minded person who watched this could see that Palin was simply reacting to keywords with memorized phrases. Throw in a few, “Mavericks” and “executive experiences” and you’ve successfully kept her from having to think for herself.
By cp
October 3, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
reservoirDAWG- your 2nd grade education is really showing. You could not define socialist if you had a dictionary in front of you. Ignorant rednecks like yourself shouldn’t be allowed to breed. Any by the way, the majority wants Obama to win. That’s why he’s destroying McSame in the polls. That’s why he’ll be elected next month. Get out of your parents’ basement and get an education. You’re an embarrassment to your country.
By MPM
October 3, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
The Coen brothers should consider Palin for their next movie instead of Francis McDormand!
By Larry Spangler
October 3, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Jay Bookman and Cynthia Tucker are two reasons I dropped my AJC subscription.
By donald
October 3, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
The debate grades are in, Biden B; Palin F. Sorry folks, I’m not into giving free rides to anybody! Palin ducked or flat out did not answer questions, trying the okey doak by saying she’s talking to the American People.
She was the one always touting her experience over Obama. What if Obama had ducked questions like ahe did, all you conserative monkey pundits like AJC/DNC Mgmt would have had a field day on that!
It is what is is, she is at best a snake oil salesman peddling rotten fish. Anyone who wants this floozy a heartbeat away from the nation’s highest office needs a lobomoty!!
By Pompano
October 3, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Donald - the reason she touted her experience over Oblahblah is because she ACTUALLY has experience. While Oblahblah was swapping BJ’s in the back of a limo w/his driver, Gov Palin was running a state. You had a good candidate - Hillary - but instead opted for the most pathetic Presidential candiate in history. Thanks for handing the election back to us.
Palin Rocks while Oblahblah sucks C@#ks!
By Tony
October 3, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Of course you liberal lapdogs say Biden won the debate!For the first time in my life,I’m ashamed to be an American because of media bias like AJC….
By Lunatic Fringe
October 3, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Hello Amvet. I used to post as John from Tampa but I am now back in Georgia. How have you been?
By reservoirDAWG
October 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
CP, really? I suppose you are in favor of universal healthcare as well. It is people like you that have no knowledge of economics that will elect this idiot.
By concerned fellow man
October 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
This is truly disappointing to read so many negative comments.
Our Nation is at risk in so many ways and both Democrats and Republicans are at each other throats.
We will need to band together in order for our country to remain strong and survive this huge economic problem.
To Pompono: You really need to grow up this is not the time for those type of comments.
Governor Palin and Senator Biden both did well according to their expectations!
Senator Biden simply knows much more then Governor Palin in terms of the world problems.
We cannot believe that a Governor of a small state can make changes in Washington when Senator McClain has not made any changes in Washington himself.
I have seen Senator Obama record and I wonder why so many mention he has not done much.
I do not see much difference in bills sign or sign on to from both senators.
But what I do see if one of the presidential candidate has a much better VP candidate.
That candidate is Joe Biden. Governor Palin cannot lend much to helping make change when she lacks knowledge about basic policy issues in Washington.
I am going to vote for Obama/Biden last night proved they can form a very strong team right now!
Senator McClain this past week proved from an economic view point he really has not ideas or in put on how to help our nation.
By Peadawg
October 3, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
I think character comes into play this year more then years past. Me being a Christian, I just can’t vote for Obama b/c of the church/cult he attended for 20 years. I do not agree w/ that and I don’t agree w/ abortion. Also, how can you vote for someone who publicly said “57 states”. Comon people…vote for the character as well as for the issues.
By Pompano
October 3, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
hey concerned fellow man
By looking at your post, it’s easy to spot that you’re a product of the Clayton County School System.
It’s well known that BO is on the DL - of course the hero worship MSM won’t touch that one.
Palin Rocks while Oblahblah sucks C@#ks!
By BT fan
October 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
Jay, you are out of touch…even your cronies at CNN and MSNBC had the opposite opinions of you…Scare of Cynthia??
By Common Sense
October 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Can someone please tell me what pipeline Governor Palin was talking about last night!
Can someone tell me about one of her children who is about to go to school!
The pipeline deal has not been approved yet!
By donald
October 3, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
Pompano
What debate were you watching last night b/c it sure wasn’t the VP one! Palin did all she could to duck issues, issues that are critical for our nation right now. From the day she was selected for the VP spot she has ranted about Obama’s experience. Couric called her on it and last night by her refusing to answer pointed questions by the moderator she tried to get Joe Six Pack and Soccer Moms to bail her out. For a clam bake like you to sit there and blab about Oblama this or that is weak as the weakest tea. When you come to the party blazin, be sure to have plenty of real bullets, all she shot last night was blanks and SENSIBLE Americans are not buying it!!
By It's over...
October 3, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
The sad part is, though I’m still voting for McCain/Palin, is that I’ve read and researched both candidate’s policies and positions and all of my hard work and vote will be nullified by some bottom feeder government dependent voter who has not a clue why their voting for Obama other than….
Wish there was some way for voter’s votes to be weighted based on certain economic and contribution to society factors…
By I give up
October 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
The sad part is, though I’m still voting for McCain/Palin, is that I’ve read and researched both candidate’s policies and positions and all of my hard work and vote will be nullified by some bottom feeder government dependent voter who has not a clue why their voting for Obama other than….
Wish there was some way for voter’s votes to be weighted based on certain economic and contribution to society factors…
By sharon
October 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Oh, if only Katie Couric could have been there to follow up with, “Just give me one example…”
By Pompano
October 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Donald,
You guys stack the deck w/a moderator with an obvious bias and still can’t knock this gal off her game. She has more backbone (and experience) than Oblahblah. Your made for Hollywood candidate is nothing more than soundbytes.
However, I understand you anger. If my party had put up a candidate that cheats on his wife w/dudes in the back of limos I’d be upset as well (though you may also be on the DL). Thanks for kicking the better candiate to the curb in your primaries - much appreciated!
Palin Rocks while Oblahblah sucks C@#ks!
By GT GRAD
October 3, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this
Jay Bookman is obviously a political HACK. Pure left wing spin.
The AJC article by Beth Fouhy is so left wing and biased that she should be fired.
The American people are finally starting to see through the ridiculous left wing bias. You two are making it blantantly obvious that they cannot trust your opinions. You two should be ashamed to call yourselves “journalists”.
Why can’t “journalist” just report the news?
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