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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
John McCain has announced that he is suspending his campaign pending resolution of the debate in Congress over the $700 billion bailout, and he wants to postpone Friday’s scheduled presidential debate as well.
This is a bizarre turn of events.
Neither McCain nor Barack Obama plays a critical role in the congressional process on this issue, so it’s hard to see why their presence in Washington would be so important. In fact, Congress and the administration have been moving toward resolution pretty quickly under the circumstances, with broad areas of agreement emerging on most of the major issues.
President Bush, for example, has signaled a willingness to accept some sort of limits on executive compensation in the package. They’re not close to a final deal, but the outlines of a deal are there.
So far, I’ve seen no reaction from the Obama camp.
UPDATE I:
The unilateral basis of this announcement makes it look like a political decision. With the polls turning against him — down nine points in an ABC/Washington Post poll, down six in a new Fox poll — it’s possible that McCain wants off the campaign trail until he can figure out where the public is on this issue.
That may sound cynical, but again, it’s hard to see how McCain and Obama are needed for a deal, nor is it clear how suspending the presidential campaign will bring the process to a close any sooner.
UPDATE II:
I just saw Sen. Lindsay Graham, a close McCain ally, try to explain this strange decision. If anything, his rhetoric and spin confirmed the sense that they are just trying to squeeze political advantage out of this. The Obama camp is said to be leaning against suspending his campaign, but no final word or decision yet.
UPDATE III:
Obama has now gone on air to explain his position. He acknowledges the seriousness of the issue and the importance of acting on a bipartisan basis. But he believes the debate should occur so that the American people can hear about this issue from the two candidates who want to become their leader in 120 days. And he notes that a president can often be required to deal with more than one thing at a time.
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Comments
By hillbilly ragger
September 24, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Looks like Obama will issue a statement soon.
By Goldie
September 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
LMAO!
And I’m sure McBush will agree to stop his TV ads while this bailout is being debated in the Senate, too!
By Paul
September 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
from ABC News:
[[a senior Obama campaign official said Obama “intends to debate.”
“The debate is on,” a senior Obama campaign official told ABC News.
Obama supporter and chief debate negotiator Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., told MSNBC that “we can handle both,” when asked about his reaction to McCain’s call to postpone the first debate because of the administration’s bailout plan. ]]
Link: Obama reaction
It’s about image, taking charge, bipartisanship, putting country first, etc etc. Do we know neither candidates ideas will carry much weight? Sure. But what’ll play in the heartland? “McCain went to Washington while Obama campaigned.” Get ready for the editorial cartoons (but not at this paper, LOL!!!) of Obama fiddling while Washington burns.
As far as doing both… I’ll be surprised if they can have it both ways.
Good news about the Administration willing to compromise on executive compensation. The things people will pick to fall on their sword over….
By Goldie
September 24, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
Too many debate partys already planned, too much invested in beer and popcorn to stop this debate on Friday!
By BDAtlanta
September 24, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Delaying a two-hour debate isn’t gonna fix the Wall Street problem.
If he really wanted to help with the Wall Street problem he would of have been in those chamber meetings the past three days - when it counted.
Johnny is flat-out skeered. Run away, Johnny Mac, run away!!!
By Fan
September 24, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Bookman, you are a flaming liberal…… go find yourself
By Gobama
September 24, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
McCain is a screw up and a coward. The timing is all about politics. He’ll probably fall asleep at the debate, if he has the guts to show up.
By Joe
September 24, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
The AJC is in worse fiscal shape than our countrys economy directly related to 2 AJC employees, YOU Mr. Bookman and that racist bigot Cynthia Tucker. The Cox people are either too stupid to see it or to old to see it.
I am glad you (AJC) are almost going under and will celebrate the day it actually happens.
Joe
By Paul
September 24, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Goldie
From Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure: Party On!
(notice I left off the “Dude” as that’s a Palin thing?).
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
This is far more serious than any hurricane could ever be:
MCCAIN: America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.
You libs be sure to laugh it up and guffaw while the serious among us gets serious.
By Koz
September 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
I guess Obama will have to debate himself.
Now he can call himself a Master Debater.
By The Wire
September 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Washington - The McCain Camp has arranged for Sarah Palin to take a field trip to the Washington Mint tommorrow. Thus, she will be able to solve our financial crisis on Friday.
By UGA fan
September 24, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Amen, Joe!! Throw Terrance Moore under that bus too!
By ajc advertising dept
September 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
Thanks for posting Joe. We appreciate your support!
-The AJC
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former General Electric Co Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jack Welch said the U.S. economy faces a deep downturn in coming quarters, and he supports a proposed $700 billion government rescue package for the financial sector.
If there is anybody who knows what we face, it is him.
There is a reason why the libs see this crisis as no big deal and are willing to politicize it, they want the economy to fail.
Do not doubt what I say.
By JAY BOOKMAN
September 24, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Gee Management, and all this time you’ve been telling us how wonderful the economy was and claiming that those of us warning of problems were just fools who hated America.
And now suddenly it’s more serious than a hurricane and you “serious” people have to tackle it.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Jay: 7 and a half years of whining and moaning and you finally got your wish, eh?
And I ain’t lost my predictions yet.
If these klowns in DC do something, that is.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
“The debate is on,” a senior Obama campaign official told ABC News.
There are two wars going on too. Pakistan is shooting at us. Russia and Venezuala are having war games.
Drop out for country first McCain.
By Dennis
September 24, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Or maybe McCain does not agree with the path being taken by Congress and the others invloved in the negotiation.
Maybe McCain is convinced, as I am, that his ideas and influence could be critical in resolving this issue.
Maybe McCain believes, as I do, that this issue being debated at congress is more important than a few day on the campaign trail or Friday’s little question and answer TV show that we insist on calling a debate.
By drew
September 24, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Yeah, AJC/DNC, let’s get all serious now and try to act “presidential”. McCain’s suggestion to return to Washington has nothing to do with substance, and everything to do with IMAGE, just like the Palin selection.
If his presence in Washington is so critical, he should have already been there.
So he gets a two-fer here: He gets to exhibit the “appearance” of leadership AND delay the debacle of debating a thinking man. He’s sinking in the polls and grasping for straws.
But I’m sure you’re about to “seriously” wet your pants, worried that the situation in Washington will go straight to he11 without McCain to lead the way. Bwahahahahahahahahahahah.
Get serious, indeed.
By DUH!
September 24, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Or Maybe Dennis you are just as dumb as your repub candidate. Just maybe?
By JAY BOOKMAN
September 24, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
Does this sound familiar, Management, written by you less than a week ago?
“WORLD MARKETS SOAR ON POSSIBLE RESCUE PACKAGE bwa. Call it socialism, call it fascism, or be like Oblahma and call it racism, whatever, I call it the end of an issue dimocrats could have made hay on.”
The end of an issue, because in your mind everything was just great….
Then there was this one, also by you just a few days ago:
“Aahhh, yes, I see the “Reagan Era” has risen up from it’s early grave and is marauding the dimocrats once again: Stocks Extend Huge Rally on Gov’t Rescue Plan, Ban on Short-Selling of Financials- AP Meanwhile, we are left to ponder the immortal and glorious words of thee Hairy Reed: �No One Knows What to Do� Speak for yourself, loser.”
I could go on and on, because you sure have. And now you claim that it’s the liberals who have been downplaying the seriousness of this issue? And you who are serious?
You have no shame. None whatsoever.
By TW
September 24, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
I thought McSame got Cindy to handle anything financial? Or maybe he and Palin could play a quick game of Monopoly and then she could take care of it?
Pathetic he is using this crisis to try and run from the debate…real tough guy.
God I miss the real Republicans.
By OldTimer
September 24, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Let me break it down for you Jay. John McCain is a United States Senator. In being so, he represents the voting authority of 50% of one state. This country is in the midst of it’s biggest financial crisis ever. This is his day job. He needs to be there. So does that other fella.
By Goldie
September 24, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Party on, Garth — I mean, Paul!
By mamaj
September 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
What in the hell does McCain think he can do to help what is going on with the bailout? Is he contributing $5 billion like Warren Buffet?—I think not. I think he is scared too. I also think that he is probably in some kind of training class like Sarah Palin is, trying to rehearse his answers to the questions the debates will pose—and he is just NOT READY! There is just no reason whatsoever to delay the debates, and he needs to get on with it right now. or his numbers will be in the single digits the next time a poll is taken.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Andy please,
You are a clown.
Your candidate cut and ran because his polls are nose diving.
w is going to address this country and scare the hell out of him and it is your party in power.
McCain should drop out for country first and retire.
By cta
September 24, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
Let’s see, we have 97 other Senators, 435 Representatives, a President (regardless of what you think of him) and 2 real experts.
The financial press is reporting the start of an emerging consensus.
And McCain is going to do what exactly?
This is a political stunt.
By CJ
September 24, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
I previously posted this comment under the wrong topic. I apologize if you’ve seen it.
Washington Monthly: “*Apparently, as McCain sees it, 10 days after the Wall Street crisis began, now he wants to head back to Capitol Hill to do some work. Of course, lawmakers and administration officials have been working quite a bit, but McCain, who has played no direct role in the negotiations thus far, wants to swoop in and tell everyone what they need to do. This from a man who hasn’t shown up for work at all in literally months.
What’s more, after whining incessantly for months about the need for one-on-one debates, McCain has decided, just 48 hours before the first official debate, that everything should be postponed. And Barack Obama should go along with all of this, because McCain says so.
I’ve never even heard of a presidential candidate acting in such a reckless, compulsive, and ultimately haphazard fashion. McCain just decided to “suspend” campaign activities? This rivals picking Sarah Palin for the ticket on the list of desperation moves.
McCain spoke at some length yesterday about the nature of the economic crisis, and what he’d like to see happen. But at the time, it apparently never occurred to him to get actually get involved in the process. That is, until today.
The Republican nomination has apparently gone to some kind of man-child who believes stunts and gimmicks are the way to the White House. It is nothing short of breathtaking to see someone so manifestly unserious seek the highest office in the land.
The moment the winds shifted and Obama had a growing lead in the polls, it’s time to suspend the campaign. Good lord, McCain really does think voters are idiots.*”
I’ll just add that this move is a classic Rovian campaign tactic: when things look bad, change the subject. McCain was about to get beaten up in the polls because of the revelation (from Newsweek, The Hill, and the NYTimes) that his campaign manager’s (Rick Davis)lobbying firm has been receiving, until just last month, $15,000 per month from Freddie Mac for…get this…doing nothing (kind of a lay-away plan for future access). Either McCain didn’t know or lied about this connection (either way, it’s bad). Of course, this revelation comes out just after McCain ran commercials falsely accusing Obama of seeking advice from former Freddie Mac CEO, Franklin Raines. As I said, classic Rove maneuver.
My other observation is that McCain would like nothing more than to blur the divisions that he has with Obama on economic issues. He knows that Obama is perceived, correctly, to have better judgment on economic issues…and so now McCain is actually flip-flopping (last week, he thought the fundamentals of our economy were sound, we needed less regulation, AIG should be allowed to rot, Chris Cox should be fired and a commission should be created), by adopting Obama’s stated prerequisites for any bailout and trying to show the public that, on economics, there’s no daylight between McCain the Deregulator and Obama (when, in fact, there are oceans between the two).
The man really is desperate.
By vp
September 24, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Just pathetic. Cant’ he handle both? What a guy. We want to elect this kind of a guy to be our president? Does he not realize that making his case and laying out his vision to American people is as important. Give me a break.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
It’s a cowardly act. Change the game because he is losing.
A deal is a deal.
And the gop deal is trying to change the game too.
Let the market correct with capitalism.
By Goldie
September 24, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
OldTimer— John McBush has been saying whatever he thinks he needs to say on TV on any given particular day. Does he need to go to the Senate in order to regurgitate what he’s already been saying on TV every night for the past week? We all hear that “the country is in a crisis” and “fire the SEC chairman!” and “I’m a De-regulator!”… what else does McBush need to say in order to “help solve this crisis”? Just wondering what new rhetoric he can possibly say that we haven’t all heard already… he can show up to give his vote when the bill is ready to be passed or not, but other than that, WHAT???
By Paul
September 24, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
Actually, I’d prefer being likened to Bill as he got to put that cool “Esquire” at the end of his name.
“Bill S. Preston, Esq.”
By marthanne
September 24, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
i feel as tho i am back in high school with these two knuckleheads going about everything but the solutions for all the miles of issues facing us — you know i think we rising juniors were a tad more mature than these two name calling — anything but the issues kind of guys — this was back in ‘65
By marthanne
September 24, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
i feel as tho i am back in high school with these two knuckleheads going about everything but the solutions for all the miles of issues facing us — you know i think we rising juniors were a tad more mature than these two name calling — anything but the issues kind of guys — this was back in ‘65
By Kim L.
September 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
Looks to me like McCain can’t pat his head a rub his belly at the same time. As President he’ll need to work on a multitude of important issues all at once so these strange manoeuvrings don’t bode well for those of us who are looking for strong and capable leadership. McCain hasn’t spent a single day as President and he already looks exhausted.
By Ted Striker
September 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
Why didn’t McCain suggest that Palin and Biden stand in for he and Obama Friday night? Since both VP candidates are qualified to run the country, certainly they could handle a debate on foreign policy.
Meanwhile, McCain and Obama could be in Washington with their shirt sleeves rolled up, drinking coffee and burning the pre-midnight oil on Friday evening, solving this financial crisis problem that suddenly popped up out of the clear blue skies.
By Chaz
September 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
“Neither McCain nor Barack Obama plays a critical figure in the congressional process on this issue, so it’s hard to see why their presence in Washington would be so important.”
No, they’re just the two guys RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. It would seem that their input might matter just a little. Or perhaps Obama had planned to vote ‘present’ anyway.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Liberals cannot get serious!
McCain says his country needs him more in Congress than in a debate. Absolutely!!
This man has fought for his country in every way possible so what do we get from liberals. *Its all about politics!”
The Obama camp cannot understand that someone would make a sacrifice for our country. They cannot understand McCain because he stands for things they have not discovered.
I understand the overall complications of our current situation. Congress is between a rock and a hard place. EVERY member of Congress should be in Washington working this out. That is their job. McCain should be there. Obama should be there. NO EXCUSES for any member of Congress to beg off. Show up or shove off!
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Jay: The AJC babbled on for 7 and half years about the impending doom, all through periods of growth and prosperity and you want to talk about “shame?”
Bring it on.
By the way, when or should I say if the economy collapses, then maybe I’ll need to change my tune. As it stands now, “could” is still the actionable word here.
~~~~~
So is Oblahma just a goony little political hack or is he the leader of his party, like McCain is?
Uh, hack.
By Fred
September 24, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Obama should do the debate by himself. That’s all the press will hear anyway.
By Lee
September 24, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
IF HE IS ELECTED PRESIDENT, MR. McCAIN WILL HAVE TO MULTI-TASK! THAT WILL INCLUDE ANSWERING TOUGH QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS (AND POLITICAL RIVALS) AS EVENTS UNFOLD. IF HE CAN’T DO THAT THEN HE’S NOT UP TO THE JOB.
By Colo Conservative
September 24, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Not again. When is McCain going to cease with these gimmicks. He had my vote before this Palin pick. After his lies and now this there is no way in hell I would vote for him. Obama is looking like the straight shooter here. There is nothing conservative about what McCain has done in his recent past and I was a fool who thought that he could be the best man for the job. Not no more! Why can’t McCain stand up in a debate and take care of his other responsibilities. Bait and Switch politics again John. You can only handle one thing at a time? Weak. Very Weak!
By Drew
September 24, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
This is perfectly in line with McCain’s ‘I’d rather lose a campaign than lose a war’ stance. Democrats, of course, can’t even comprehend such a notion.
By Ted Striker
September 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
If Bush makes any reference whatsoever to McCain and Obama delaying the debate — it’ll be even more obvious this is nothing but a political maneuver.
By CJ
September 24, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
It should also be pointed out that a few days ago, Barak Obama presented his ideas about the bailout. A couple of days later, McCain presented his, nearly identical, ideas (nothing about commissions, fundamentals or firing anybody).
Then, this morning, without informing the press, Obama quitely contacted the McCain campaign and offered to make a joint statement with McCain…since they appeared to share the same ideas about the bailout. If McCain wasn’t interested, neither campaign is publicly affected by the offer.
McCain’s response? Without notifying the Obama campaign, he suspends his campaign, pulls out of the debate, and flies back to D.C.—while publicly encouraging Obama to do the same.
Country first, my a$$.
By John
September 24, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
Hey Jay;
Can you get the AJC to give Joe his paper orute back? He is still blaming the loss on you, Cynthia, the liberals, and of course, Obama.
Too bad GOP can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. If we were to go shopping as NYC burned, surely a 2-hour gabfest will not bring the country to its knees. Besides, no one works after 5PM in DC anyway.
By LaughorCry
September 24, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Since Obama has TWO financial advisors previously of Fannie Mae, former CEO Franklin Raines and also Jim Johnson, he should be able to fix this problem in no time. NO WAIT THEY CAUSED THE PROBLEM. Obama has a knack for picking awesome people to advise him. I can’t wait for his presidency.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s title should have been: OBAMA REFUSES TO DO HIS JOB IN CONGRESS. HAD RATHER DEBATE POLITICS.
By lostindixie
September 24, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
I think the lobbyists on the McCain campaign staff want to get back to DC and make sure they are represented in the final agreement!
By Tom
September 24, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
McCain campaign’s next move: ask the postpone the Vice-Presidential debate permanently “for the good of the nation.”
By T
September 24, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Bless us all.
I am soo not worried. McCain is going back to Washington to put everyone in their place. He’s going to fix it. Tonight, Mr. W is going to tell us all that it is all ok as long as he is in control. So don’t be afraid, it’s just a slow economy. Palin will pray away the witches, so no need to fear.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s title should have been: OBAMA AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT IN WASHINGTON. WANTS TO DEBATE ELSEWHERE.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
I do like this though, the libs haven’t said one good thing about the economy for over seven years, now they finally get to take credit for knowing about a crisis brought on by their derelict governing.
Unique, isn’t it?
By Chuck
September 24, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
Obama’s response to times of trouble: “If you need me, call me.”
Now, THAT’S leadership.
By drew
September 24, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Colo Conservative…it’s refreshing to see that at least one conservative can see McGimmick for what he is.
But your life would be so much more pleasant if you could simply embrace the gimmicks like AJC/DNC (dang, he’s soooo smart!), Dusty (you go girl!) and the CORPORAL (at ease, soldier!).
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s title should have been: OBAMA AFRAID TO GO TO WORK IN WASHINGTON. PREFERS DEBATES.
By blackprix
September 24, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
McCain doesn’t know what the heck to do with the economy so he wants to delay the debate????
God forbid this guy becomes Prez!!!
Obama needs to stay the course and hammer this loser in the debates!
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s title should have been: NO TELEPROMPTERS IN WASHINTON, OBAMA WILL NOT GO THERE DURING CRISIS
By Andy
September 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Let’s see, Obama makes how much as a US Senator? Must be nice to never have to show up for work and still get paid. Hell, he’s up for a promotion and still doesn’t feel like he has to show up.
Then again, it’s no big deal, just a matter of $700 billion in taxpayer debt. Same day, different BS.
By CJ
September 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
“Since Obama has TWO financial advisors previously of Fannie Mae, former CEO Franklin Raines…”
When are these guys going to learn that John McCain is a liar. Their attitude seems to be, “Fool me once? Shame on you. Fool me a thousand times? Shame on you.”
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
As I said down below, I think McCain should agree to have the debate go on, but switch the topic back to domestic issues. In the midst of working on a market rescue nobody wants to hear a debate on foreign policy.
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Neither McCain nor Barack Obama plays a critical figure in the congressional process on this issue, so it’s hard to see why their presence in Washington would be so important.
Hysterical! One of them gets elected President in about six weeks, but the economic well being of the country and what government should do about it, if anything, should be none of their concern.
AJC-DNC-M,
It’s a little creepy that Jay has a dossier on you. Keep up the good work.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s title should have been: OBAMA WILL NOT WASTE HIS VALUABLE TIME FOR A CRISIS IN WASHINGTON.
By Ross
September 24, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Well damn, now what am I gonna watch on TV Friday night?
By JAY BOOKMAN
September 24, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
It’s not a dossier, RW. It’s a link on the left-hand column, labeled “More entries…”
See it?
Now just click on it, and you too have a “dossier.” There’s no need to build a dossier on Management when he gives us a fresh dose of his foolishness every 15 minutes or so.
By Lewis
September 24, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Yes! Let’s suspend politics and return to Washington where nobody is paying any attention to this problem…I’m so glad McCain thought of this! I’m sure Bernanke and Paulson really need McCain around for photo ops and switcheroo rhetoric that oversimplifies the problem. That way he can swoop in at the last minute and take credit for anything accomplished. What a crock!
By Sarah
September 24, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
McCain definately acted like a two-year-old today. He and the rest the rest of the Republicans running for office this November are going to get their clocks cleaned.
And rightfully so.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
w and cheney could not rally the base and their party to support the bailot so it is up to McCain.
Good luck with that John. gop whip.
Don’t need Obama for that.
Losers.
By N-GA
September 24, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
I think it’s funny when wing-nuts talk about Obama’s teleprompters. It’s even funnier when we watch McCain read his speeches from paper on the podium. I think teleprompters are too hi-tech for McCain…kinda like the Internet.
BTW, Everyone thought that Buffett’s purchase of $5 billion of Goldman Sachs would boost the market. Just to let you know, Buffett is not betting on Goldman getting itself healthy, he’s betting on Congress bailing them out. That is why he has come out and said publically that Congress needs to bail out Wall Street. His comments are a little self-serving.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
RW,
I agree. The debate will lead with this bailout but we have two wars going on too.
I don’t think Jay has figured out Andy is a parody troll.
Just scroll down Jay.
By Fred
September 24, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
I’m sure Obama consulted long and hard with Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson (the guys who fed him $100k over the last four years) in formulating his response to this problem… that is, stay on the plane and keep making speeches.
By Tom
September 24, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Tis but another typical GOP political trick desighned to sail right over the head of the unwashed masses. Our non-hero McShame lies for a living.
BUT: This GOP move will blend nicely and patriotically into the other farce, which is…
OUR DIVINE DRUNKEN FUHRER SPEAKS TONIGHT! Watch him. Hear him. Adore him.
Now McShame will join The Fuhrer in D.C. and all will be solved. God bless thee Ewenited States of Murcuh! Right, Sarah??
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s title should have been: OBAMA WILL NOT DISAPPOINT HIS SUBJECTS. WILL DEBATE BY HIMSELF IN ASTRODOME.
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
Ah shucks Jay B,
You’re just mad about everybody pointing out how stupid your statement about the next President not needing to have input into what will likely have the single biggest impact on their first term.
Don’t worry, yours wasn’t the stupidest statement of the day. We’ll turn to Alcee Hastings for that one.
Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”
By Matt
September 24, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this
The annointed one is so empowered he doesn’t even feel the need to vote present. If he really wants to help the people then he will realize just how many people could loose their jobs and houses and life savings and get to D.C. and put in his “I was here” vote and not want to talk about other topics in a debate. If we are attacked again then what? There are more important things to discuss like more welfare and foodstamps. Besides, it was only the rich that were killed anyway. And, ah, he ah, really ah, needs ah, a ah, teleprompter.
By @@
September 24, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
Pray tell jay! Where’s the fault in finding the pulse on a dying patient? <———That would be the taxpayers who are fixin’ to have a political “pole” shoved down their throats.
I tend to favor Rasmussen when dancing the “poles”.
Forty-one percent (41%) say they are certain to vote for Obama and will not change their mind. Forty percent (40%) say the same about McCain.
That leaves the undecideds who will be watching the debate wondering why the heck they’re having to pay for a bailout to the tune of $7 billion with no guarantees it sill work.
Maybe McCain wants to be able to clearly explain to them, the critical nature of this bailout fiasco. Or maybe he wants to shore up support from on-the-fence conservatives who see nothing conservative about giving more power and money to politicians.
I’m just guessing here, and so are you. Of course you would find it suspicious that a candidate chooses to err in the interest of the voters.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s title should have been: OBAMA SPEAKS STRONG WORDS: “WHAT CRISIS?”
By Susan
September 24, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
GO OBAMA!! Show up and talk to the people without McPain!
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Which two wars is that? Are you counting the one we’re wrapping up in Iraq or adding the one Obama wants to start with Pakistan? The Dunce rattles his saber at Iran a lot too, maybe he’s looking for a three front war.
By LaughorCry
September 24, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
Already been there. Everyone should draw on their own experiences to make a decision, not these trivial matters. A man manages to finesse his way into a job he has no business being in, but he’s a good talker, speaker, and he looks good and manages to get hired. In meetings, he has to ask everyone else for advice because he has no experience or true understanding of the work or how to solve the issues. If he can get a consensus among others, then he doesn’t have to take responsibility for the decision. Once the decision is made, he just repeats what other people said. It becomes apparent to everyone that he is a project manager, not a decision maker. Soon, people start to find their way around him, because he is nothing but a road block that adds time to every decision. Everyone realizes it’s going to be OK though, because in a few years they will hire someone else to clean up the mess.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Yeah, sure thing, I generate more activity at the AJC than printing the days paper does.
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
Actually the way Obama and Biden have been undercutting each other lately maybe the two of them should debate Friday if McCain is still tied up actually doing the work of the people.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Bookman’s got a dossier?? Uh oh. Our junior editor has gone in for police work. How about fingerprints, Bookman? I think you ought to get those on every body who uses more than one ID or “borrows” one.
Also, there are plenty of liberals here who are a bit suspicious. That ol’ Cajun coot, for one.
I shall look for our enterprising editor on the next TV police thriller. “Just the facts, mam, or my dossier is going to blow you away!”
By TW
September 24, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Any chance ‘w’ will open up tonight with an apology to the American people for trashing the country?
By Davo
September 24, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this
Eighty percent of success is showing up. Woody Allen (1935 - )
Never… ever suggest they don’t have to pay you. What they pay for, they’ll value. What they get for free, they’ll take for granted, and then demand as a right. Hold them up for all the market will bear. Lois McMaster Bujold, A Civil Campaign, 1999
By Bud Wiser
September 24, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
Hey Management, it looks like Jay has the crosshairs on you today…..
“By JAY BOOKMAN September 24, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this Gee Management, and all this time you’ve been telling us how wonderful the economy was and claiming that those of us warning of problems were just fools who hated America. By JAY BOOKMAN September 24, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this Does this sound familiar, Management, written by you less than a week ago? By JAY BOOKMAN September 24, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this …..There’s no need to build a dossier on Management when he gives us a fresh dose of his foolishness every 15 minutes or so.”
Don’t you just love it when Jay and his merry little troop of misfits and idiots focus their energy on you instead of any real issues?
It is the mantra and the way of the liberal to attempt to obfuscate their lack of knowledge or intelligence on any specific issue, by launching into mean-spirited vitriolic attacks on those that disagree with their positions. I use the termtheir positions loosely, because most of Jay’s little trolls can do no more than hit the talking points fed to them by their masters at the DNC, Huffington pus/POS, DailyKos, etc etc.
Jay does get up on his facts pretty good sometimes, but when he spins off into the world of liberal speak, he loses focus. His attempted ridicule on you, case in point.
Stay the course, Management. They ridicule what they do not understand.
Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid
By @@
September 24, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
What the hey????????
with no guarantees it sill work?
Make that will won’tcha.
I’ve gotta pay closer attention to the redline.
By fearless fosdik
September 24, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this
DO WHAT?
McCain who has admitted that he has very little knowledge of ECONOMICS now wants to have an economics summitt to resolve the problems that he and his cronies created….give me a break!
McCain who said in mid September “the economy is basically sound!” REALLY?
Can anyone spell PHOTO-OP?
By the way how much did it cost the tax-payer … that means you and me to bail out all those S&L’s back in 1989…You know? The Keating five!
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
It didn’t take these folks long to get to the bottom of this delay the debate stategery.
BREAKING NEWS! Senator McCain has asked for the Friday debate to be delayed so he may “focus on the economy”. But insiders tell Weekly World News it’s just a cover-up to hide his secret leg-lengthening surgery!
By @@
September 24, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
As the FBI probes four troubled financial giants, the Republican ex-CIA operative running against John Kerry is calling on the state’s junior senator to return thousands in campaign cash he’s accepted from the firms.
“There isn’t a player in this whole debacle that John Kerry isn’t in bed with,” Jeff Beatty said. “John Kerry needs to clean his hands of this money and show he is accountable to the voters for the role he has played in this economic crisis.”
Kerry has accepted $111,000 in campaign donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives and lobbyists and owns $2 million in AIG stock, according to Beatty’s campaign.
Kerry spokeswoman Brigid O’Rourke dismissed the criticism, saying: “Instead of playing phony political games with Jeff Beatty, John Kerry would rather concentrate on the work he’s been doing for our state’s troubled homeowners.”
Oh puhleeeeeze.
Why not have all the politicians return the contributions and eat their lost investments. That would at least bring down what the taxpayers end up paying.
That should be part of the plan if there’s gonna be a plan.
I don’t give a tinker’s toot which party they belong to. Show us the money!
By getalife
September 24, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Oh, we understand him butt wiper.
The crisis is bailing out companies under investigation by the FBI for fraud. He is going to Washigton to try to whip his party for this bailout of criminals.
McCain cut and ran from a foreign policy debate with two wars going on and Pakistan on the verge.
Looks like this was not a tough call for Obama but the gop voters will fall for it.
There is no reason to rush this bailout.
By Matt
September 24, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this
This economy was a lot better off 2 years ago before america voted for “change”. Nice change huh? Nancy “P”onya is a joke of all jokers. Lets vote in more “change”. Ha! The Mc is on record a few years ago arguing to straighten out this mess but fell on deaf ears. There is a true fact for you lib’s. Obomb was still rooting for ACORN, whom he was a lawyer for and one of the reasons we are in this mess.
By Sal Mineo
September 24, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
What is the mission of the bailout plan?
Is there a describable strategic economic objective?
Could it be that not one person on the planet can narrate an understandable scenario of the how, why or what of this crisis?
That means that people are afraid to make a statement, for appearing to be a fool.
The bailout is piracy in front of the world with it’s eyes wide open.
Ban the bailout. Simply provide new credit. Make those institutions hold on to the big bag of worthless paper. But give them liquidity to endow new loans.
New credit. That buys time till we can understand what happened. I listened to that treasury secretary all day stutter and stammer out a plea. He knows less than I do.
There’s simply not enough credible data to sustain any support for this rush to trust the very pirates that brung us to this dance.
I want someone to explain it so that even duhng can understand it.
Then, we’ll talk about a bailout. I’m urging my fellow americans to vote no on the bailout.
Ban the bailout!!
By Mrs.Godzilla
September 24, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Greetings from Steamboat Springs….fall in the Rockies is just beautiful!
Re: McCain Suspending campaign
Can you say stunt?
And a bad one at that.
The best thing for America is to insure the smooth transition to the next President.
Unless of course McCain knows more than he’s saying…..we have a brigade coming home for use by the Department of Homeland Security….what the hell is that about?
Let’s not forget that Bush has the power to declare martial law and the threat of economic collapse might just be to much temptation for the decider to resist.
I suspect not just the other shoe will fall…..but when it’s over it’s gonna’ look like Imelda Marco’s is having a tard sale.
It could also be that McCain just understands he cannot win.
We shall see.
By BDAtlanta
September 24, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
By Jay at 5:12pm There’s no need to build a dossier on Management when he gives us a fresh dose of his foolishness every 15 minutes or so.
chuckle chuckle chuckle
By getalife
September 24, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this
@@,
There will be members of Congress involved in the FBI investigations.
They will pull a w and refuse to cooperate. Our new justice system.
By N-GA
September 24, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
RW,
You are as confused today as you were yesterday.
You begrudgingly supported the bail-out, then contradicted yourself by saying you didn’t trust the government to spend the money properly.
Now today you accuse Obama of wanting to start another war with Pakistan. Meanwhile your wonderfully brilliant president sends drone guided missiles at Al Qaida targets in Pakistan and authorizes special forces troop incursions into Pakistan without the approval of their government.
I guess you really don’t have any idea what you want.
By Mrs.Godzilla
September 24, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
HELL McCain hasn’t voted since APril…..
What a pansy.
By Dennis
September 24, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
To: DUH From: Dennis
Your 4:23 p.m. response to my entry into this discussion was so witty and charged with intelligence that I simply could not come up with a worthy response.
I am so embarrassed by your complete disection of my comments that I cannot face you or the other equally deep people who believe as you do.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
While the liberals whine and moan, the Cons work to find a solution:
Fitzgerald, now chairman of one-year-old Chain Bridge Bank in McLean, Virginia, isn’t wild about Paulson’s bailout plan, but he does think that, as with the airline bailout, taxpayers should be compensated for their assistance. “If the taxpayers are taking the risk, then they should be able to participate in the upside when the bank returns to health,” says Fitzgerald. “It would also deter healthy banks from using the fund as a dumping ground for bad assets.”-Fortune Magazine
Now that’s what I’m talking about.
After all, if thee economy is as bad as the liberals have sniffled then what the hell has Buffet got on his mind?
Bargain shopping.
And before I get called out as a flip flopper, none of this^^ will happen if the government does not first get us out of the mess the democrats created.
Since Johny is one the job now, I have faith it will be fixed in no time flat.
Debate this.
bwa
By BDAtlanta
September 24, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this
There may very well not be a vote this week so Johnny Mac is gonna go to DC and stand around looking silly.
You guys can’t admit it but your candidate is bailing out because he’s scared. He is totally not ready for Friday night. Never has been, never will be.
Why do you think he wont let Sarah talk to reporters? He’s scared.
There’s a Presidential election in 40+ days and this is the best candidate you can find? Embarrassing. What a coward.
By @@
September 24, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this
I had heard that proposal:
“If the taxpayers are taking the risk, then they should be able to participate in the upside when the bank returns to health,” says Fitzgerald. “It would also deter healthy banks from using the fund as a dumping ground for bad assets.”-Fortune Magazine
made on one of the news channels. My initial thought was “Yea buddy, if OBlahMa makes it into the white house, he’ll quickly forget that and use it for all the giveaway programs he’s promised.”
Liberals attention spans are short. That leaves conservatives, who have the memory of an elephant, to collect on their risk.
Liberals will pay to play while conservatives get payback. I could go with that! No liberal whinin’ tho. That’s gotta be included.
By CJ
September 24, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this
Here’s a copy of McCain’s talking points, distributed to campaign staff and volunteers.
Notice that the first bullet point says, “[McCain] has spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of his decision [to suspend his campaign].” I feel compelled to point out that this talking point is a lie. McCain returned Obama’s call, made in private to ask McCain if he would be interested in issuing a joint statement on the bailout, and informed Obama that he was “thinking about” suspending his campaign.
The fourth bullet point says, “This is a time to put our country first.” How ironic, given that this unprecedented notion of suspending presidential campaigns is coming from the candidate who is falling behind in the polls and is embroiled in the midst of a major controversy surrounding his campaign chief (Rick Davis) receiving monthly payments from Freddie Mac.
He couldn’t be more transparent. This is yet another political stunt that insults the intelligence of the people that McCain hopes to lead.
By Superb
September 24, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
So McCain ducks the first debate…..guess he decided he doesn’t want to be president after all. Fact is the President will speak tonight and congress especially the Senate is doing right to question the blank check being requested. McCain needs to debate to let us hear for ourselves how he would address this issue not run back to Washington.
We have heard so much about his tenacity and fearlessness yet he ducks when it is under control.
Now to the debate …please invite Mr. Barr to accompany Mr. Obama and let’s decide between those two for next president
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
I also told you what an idiot you were for considering those two statements contradictory yesterday. That’s one thing that never changes about you though.
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Create your own electoral map
By getalife
September 24, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this
Now, they are trying to dump the VP debate.
I guess palin is ignorant and this crisis is not serious with all this political stunt bs.
By Mrs.Godzilla
September 24, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this
HERE’S AN IDEA
Ole’ Miss has spent a ton of money prepping for the debate…wasting money ain’t smart.
Let Palin and Biden switch….they can go on Friday night.
Unless of course she isn’t ready?
By WW5
September 24, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this
REQUEST FOR JAY - look at the way the “poll” was conducted by the wash post. they say - over sampling of dems and blacks (3-2). poll is bogus but you can hang your hat on it if you like.
By N-GA
September 24, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
BTW RW,
Are you still flip-flopping on McCain? For the longest time you swore you wouldn’t vote for him. In fact, I think you indicated you may not vote rather than vote for him.
Then Palin joins the ticket and adds so much experience, a world-class education, incredible foreign relations knowledge, and a penchant for telling the truth (sarc), and now you’re considering casting your ballot for McCain/Palin.
I guess since you can’t make up your own mind, you just drink the kool-aid and vote your out-of-body experience.
You’re worse than the Jihadists. At least they don’t have a vote.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this
By BDAtlanta September 24, 2008 6:19 PM Why do you think he wont let Sarah talk to reporters?
BDA: I once thought you were just clueless on economic issues but now I have come to realize you are a fully developed dimwit, totally versed in idiot speak:
This morning, Katie sat down with Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin in New York. In the exclusive interview, Katie asked her a wide range of questions on foreign policy and the current economic situation. We’ll bring you more of what she said tonight – but for now, we snagged a clip of the interview you can check out now.Uh, See B.S.
Behind the times are we?
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
I’ll not be voting for McCain and I haven’t wavered from that. Are you drunk already? Must have been a good day at the pool hall. Now go sleep it off or at least find another leg to hump.
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They just had someone who looks remarkably like Sarah Palin on CBS News. They have her on again tomorrow and next week too. It couldn’t have been the governor since she won’t face anyone from the media. Unless you moonbat(ic)s® are lying to us again.
By N-GA
September 24, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this
RW,
So TODAY you’ve decided not to vote McCain/Palin. We’ll just have to wonder if that will change tomorrow.
In the meantime, can you tell us if you are for the bailout or opposed to it. After all, you can’t have it both ways.
While you’re at it, tell us if you support our troops (and the current president) as far as attacks inside Pakistan. Your answer should help us understand why you think Obama is trying to start a war with Pakistan.
Let us know where you stand, RW. And stop straddling the fence.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON (CBS) ― CBS 2 has learned the House of Representatives will conduct an inquiry into Rep. Charles Rangel, the Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.
Say, does anyone know what Rangel’s political affiliation is?
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this
Aahhh yes, thee memories:
Barack Obama’s campaign toned down its events Saturday in response to Hurricane Ike, canceling plans for the Democratic presidential nominee to crack jokes on “Saturday Night Live” and for his running mate to appear at a joint rally.-AP
He was skeered!
By JAY BOOKMAN
September 24, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
RESPONSE TO WW5:
That’s why I refrained from citing the WashPost poll and waited for confirmation that the gap was spreading. The Fox poll released today provided that confirmation.
Unless you have a problem with the Fox poll….
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this
Drunk,
I’ve never wavered from the vote issue
I think the government is responsible for a financial rescue of companies they screwed up, but I don’t trust the government to put in new regulations that work since the old ones are what broke things. (I understand you can’t figure that out, but that’s because as I mentioned before you’re an idiot)
I’ve always been for cross border operations with the at least tacit approval of the Pakistani goverment. Obama’s stance is to hell with the Pakistani government, if they don’t help us we’ll just invade. If you don’t believe me ask your buddy Paul.
Now you have your three answers and I will not be responding to you again. Got it?
By Midori
September 24, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
it would take a certified lunatic to compare appearing on SNL to a debate.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this
N GA,
someone is mighty snippy tonite.
stepped on some toes, did ya?
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this
FOX News Poll: Obama Reclaims Lead Over McCain, 45% to 39%
Uh, the Fox poll consisted of 369 democrats and 306 Republicans.
That’s awful close to 45% to 39%.
By BDAtlanta
September 24, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC,
Is that Katie Couric you are referencing?
Hold on, I was drinking water and laughed some out my nose. Hate when that happens.
Katie brings the guns, does she? Pathetic
By Midori
September 24, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this
McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate
WORTHLESS!!
Just plain WORTHLESS
Now spin THAT, Andy.
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this
I take that phrase from a 1956 movie about a real-life World War II British intelligence operation to trick the Germans into thinking the Allies were going to invade Greece rather than Sicily in 1943. Operation Mincemeat involved the acquisition of a human corpse dressed as “Major William Martin, R.M.,” which was put into the sea near Spain. Attached to the corpse was a briefcase containing fake letters suggesting that the Allied attack would be against Sardinia and Greece
To make the operation credible, British intelligence concocted a fictional life for the corpse, creating a letter from a lover and tickets to a London theater — all the details of a life, but not the actual life of the dead young man whose corpse was being used. So, too, the man the media have presented to the nation as Obama is not the real man
This a great description of the fraud our media has become.
The public will be voting based on the idealized image of the man who never was. If he wins, however, we will be governed by the sunken, cynical man Obama really is. One can only hope that the senior journalists will be judged as harshly for their professional misconduct as Wall Street’s leaders currently are for their failings
They’re being judged as we speak, Tony, and the verdict is that they’re dropping like flies.
By Nigel
September 24, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this
I am slightly amused, inspite of the gimmickery that is the idiotic opportunism so fraught with political desperation - by a man who will never, in any of our lifetimes, convince us that this latest action amounts to ‘puting country first’. I keep counts of moments when as a country we should all be embarrassed to be Americans, and this is one of them. Shame on you John McCain for putting us on the spot when the whole world has it’s eyes fixated on our (and soon to be, their) quagmire. It is not honorable what you are trying to do Mr McCain…if there was an ounce of truth to your words, you would have proceeded with the announcement as was suggested by Obama’s campaign - in a joint statement (like you said you would!!!!!!). Instead, turn around and throw a fast-ball when there’s no batter on the mound with your shameless stall-tactics!! There’s an old caribbean saying, ‘When you fall and break your foot, it is wise not to insult the crutch-maker’. We, the true Americans, have collectively witnessed John McCain’s campaign hobbling on half a leg (no pun intended), and his response is to insult our intelligence with this diversion. Stop playing politics with us Mr McCain…and another thing…that order of crutches you were attempting to put through with this latest stunt…we can’t deliver because our kindergartners were reading playboy while their underpaid, overworked teacher was out listening to you raising hell because your Hillary-substitute had been branded ‘Pork-chop in Maybelline lip cosmetics’…ring a bell, McLying??? Same stunt different props!! We are on to you!!
‘Palin-Schmalin’ - Ex-Clinton Supporter For Obama!!!
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this
By Midori September 24, 2008 7:23 PM it would take a certified lunatic to compare appearing on SNL to a debate.
i r o diM: Oblahma dropped 3 some debates with Bruno and 10 townhall meetings with McCain, and gee, I just cannot remember you voicing any concern over that, hmmmmm.
And do tell us, toadies, is Friday night at 8:00 Eastern the only time that these two can debate?
Huh, huh?
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By BDAtlanta September 24, 2008 7:27 PM Katie brings the guns, does she? Pathetic
BDA: You have now entered the realm of comical to go along with your hardened status as a dimwit.
Look out Bozo the Clown, you got competition!
Let’s see here, five minutes ago, Hot Sarah was talking to no reporters and now the goal post has been moved to she wont talk to Sam Donaldson.
Gosh, I wonder if you are just filling your diaper when you post?
By cmd
September 24, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this
Senator McCain is ranking member on the Senate Commerce Committee and formerly chaired the committee. It is mind-boggling to watch him preen and posture about “Washington” as though he himself was visiting another planet as the current economic crisis developed.
As a working mother and graduate student I have to juggle responsiblities at home, school and work. I can only imagine the reaction of my work team, childen, spouse or boss if I decided to “postpone” my responsiblities because I was simply too overwhelmed to cope.
By BDAtlanta
September 24, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this
Why don’t you Republicans stand up to your leaders and ask them to tell you the truth? Tell them to treat you like adults and quit lying to you. Tell your Republican leaders that you don’t want scare tactics used on you? Call your leaders now and demand they stop treating you like a bunch of babies.
By RW-(the original)
September 24, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
Oh, this is rich.
Obubba is sending Bubba to gather up the “cracker vote”
By Mike Drake
September 24, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
McCain can’t chew gum and walk at the same time. He can’t pat his head and rub his belly at the same time. He can’t focus on the economy and a debate at the same time. And he want’s to be President of the United States? God help America.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
Desperate indeed. Stop the game in the final quarter. Cut and run like a coward. The man has lost all honor.
Football fans would storm the field. Baseball fans would toss objects. Hockey and Soccer fans would start a riot.Don’t try this crap when you play LSU.
Geaux Tigers!
By Goldie
September 24, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
John McBush should just go ahead and bow out of the race now— he sounds just like W did during the ‘04 debates: “It’s haarrd.”
Being president, “it’s a haarrrd job!” he whined.
By N-GA
September 24, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
Midori,
It’s not too difficult to send them over the edge. But I must say they are consistent and steadfast. When they say “up” is “down”, they repeat it until one either stops asking, or ignores them.
Just look at Bush & Cheney……
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this
Dropping Biden from the ticket would be a throwback to George McGovern’s shocker in 1972, when he replaced running mate Thomas Eagleton after it was learned that Eagleton had undergone electro-shock therapy for depression.-Fox
McGovern, Oblahma.
Hmmmmm, can you not see the similarities?
Not the electro shock therapy, I’m not talking about what Hair Plugs needs done.
I’m talking about thee landslide for the Repugs.
bwa.
By Defending Bush
September 24, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
Bush is addressing the country tonite on the bailout. Has he the credibility to be believed?
Imagine W’s understanding. Buffet is playing J.P. Morgan and doing what one man can do to make a difference.
He understands it’s a matter of trust.
By Defending Bush
September 24, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
That’s not what hurt McGovern. What hurt him was his statement that he “stands behind his man, 1000 per cent”, and then he fired him.
By Nancy C.
September 24, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
If this latest stunt is an example of what they call the McCain Maverick then I don’t want any part of it. The American people aren’t stupid and we deserve so much better. Choosing Palin as your VP was reckless enough in these dangerous time but what you’ve done today takes the cakes. We thought you were different but you’ve shown us your true colors - win at any cost no matter what it does to our country. This isn’t a game. Our country’s future is in the balance and you decide NOW - two weeks after the implosion - to suspend your campaign and head off to Washington tot fix the problem. You haven’t voted on the Hill since April! Puhleez - you’re polls are falling and you aren’t ready for a debate about real issues. Besides didn’t you say the economy was fundamentally stable. Oh yeah that was last week. Flip flop, flip flop.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this
well, N GA — keep up the good work!! :)
By Mrs.Godzilla
September 24, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this
Wow, McCain really is a coward.
Obama calls him early….suggests a joint statement.. and McCain freaks.
Is this McCains 8th failed attempt to frame the economic mess?
THIS MAN MUST NEVER BE PRESIDENT
By getalife
September 24, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this
McCain was all over the place on this issue.
Says “fundamentals strong”
Later, fire SEC head
Fliped flopped on AIG, blamed Obama, etc..
Now must postpone debate because of crisis.
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Watch Letterman tonight, should be a good one.
By Defending Bush
September 24, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this
The big bailout is really McCain’s bailout of the debates.
Those that warned of a black hole devouring the earth if we started up the Large Hadron Collider were right. With quantum physics, you never know where the cataclysm will end up.
Who woulda thunk it would start on Wallstreet?
Does Bush have any credibility left? He goes on television to convince america to support the bailout. Does anybody believe a word W says anymore? I dont.
Plus does anybody believe that he knows what happened? or could describe what happened, or could effectively narrate an antidote for what happened.
no. Nobody in the country believes in this man.
A lame duck trying to bandage a mauled bear.
By Defending Bush
September 24, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this
McCain’s first three acts as “president”: Palin, firing the sec chairman over AIG, and now the big bailout on the debates.
McCain wants to bail over the bailout.
Palin, bailin, and bailin. Sounds like a law firm from the Osarks.
By Mrs.Godzilla
September 24, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
COUNTRY FIRST MY ROSY RED BEHIND!
This is McCain putting CAMPAIGN first.
Cheap publicity stunt.
By RogersParkRob
September 24, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
This is a chance for one of the candidates to lead.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this
8:10 namejack.
Child.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
re your 8:12 - are you watching Olbermann too??
:)
By bronco
September 24, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
Yea all this crap happening in the world and then Clay Aiken drops a bombshell on us. We are doomed
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
I guess name jacking and threats are now acceptable practices on the Kookman blog.
Makes sense, considering it is all the liberals got.
By Defending Bush
September 24, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this
I think there’s more at stake than this curious bailout. I think America will listen to Bush tonite and remember WMDs, and Iraq, and add one trillion and one trillion but they aint gonna get two trillion, they’ll get America Stinks.
I think that this time, the Man aint gettin’ away with it. I think that America, 200 years a child, will grow up tonite.
Tomorrow morning we will be a different country.
Obama 08: America takes over.
By George
September 24, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
This from Drudge….
EXCLUSIVE: LETTERMAN MOCKS MCCAIN CANCELLATION Wed Sep 24 2008 17:41:58 ET
David Letterman tells audience that McCain called him today to tell him he had to rush back to DC to deal with the economy.
Then in the middle of the taping Dave got word that McCain was, in fact just down the street being interviewed by Katie Couric. Dave even cut over to the live video of the interview, and said, “Hey Senator, can I give you a ride home?”
Earlier in the show, Dave kept saying, “You don’t suspend your campaign. This doesn’t smell right. This isn’t the way a tested hero behaves.” And he joked: “I think someone’s putting something in his metamucil.”
“He can’t run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she?”
“What are you going to do if you’re elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We’ve got a guy like that now!”
Developing…
By Jake Johnson
September 24, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this
I think McCain is doing something much worse than it seems: by saying that he won’t debate until this sudden mess is cleaned up, and with the finance industry saying it must be cleaned up before Monday, he’s trying to force a quick solution: give them all of the money they’re asking for, with a few limitations on salaries and oversight. But give them all of the money.
And if this transparent ploy works, he’ll claim that he helped to save the economy, when he instead donated $700 billion to one of the richest sectors of the economy. There’s now also talk this bailout actually making money in the long haul, but that doesn’t make sense unless the very lowest price is paid for these mortgages. These pieces of paper are not going to gain in value for many, many years, if at all.
By Defending Bush
September 24, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this
It seems like all those warnings about a black hole devouring the planet if they started up that new collider came true.
Who woulda thought the cataclysm would start on wall street.
I hope Clay Aiken is gay, cause if he aint, then it’s worse, if’n you know what I be meanin’
Obama 08: Change we have to face.
By Jake Johnson
September 24, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this
I think McCain is doing something much worse than it seems: by saying that he won’t debate until this sudden mess is cleaned up, and with the finance industry saying it must be cleaned up before Monday, he’s trying to force a quick solution: give them all of the money they’re asking for, with a few limitations on salaries and oversight. But give them all of the money.
And if this transparent ploy works, he’ll claim that he helped to save the economy, when he instead donated $700 billion to one of the richest sectors of the economy. There’s now also talk this bailout actually making money in the long haul, but that doesn’t make sense unless the very lowest price is paid for these mortgages. These pieces of paper are not going to gain in value for many, many years, if at all.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this
Oops! Colorado McCain camp sends internal e-mail to reporters
The regional spokesman for John McCain in Colorado accidentally sent the campaign’s internal talking points on the candidate’s plans to suspend his campaign to its entire Colorado media list, instead of a list of key volunteers, Wednesday afternoon, PolitickerCO’s Jeremy Pelzer reports.
The memo, titled “TALKING POINTS: SUSPENDING THE CAMPAIGN,” includes a list of points the campaign wants emphasized, and includes this warning from Kise: “Please do not proactively reach out to the media on this.”
McCain’s plans to stop campaigning — and a proposal to cancel Friday’s debate with Obama — had already been widely reported Wednesday afternoon.
Still, Kise was surprised at his e-mail snafu, as Pelzer reports:
By Defending Bush
September 24, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this
I think there’s more at stake than this curious bailout. I think America will listen to Bush tonite and remember WMDs, and Iraq, and add one trillion and one trillion but they aint gonna get two trillion, they’ll get America Stinks.
I think that this time, the Man aint gettin’ away with it. I think that America, 200 years a child, will grow up tonite.
Tomorrow morning we will be a different country.
Obama 08: Facing change.
By Art
September 24, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Bookman:
Your continued whining about Retardicans and praise for Democraps indicates you have been drinking the Kool-Aid given to you by our corrupt, rotten-to-the core two-party system.
Neither the Democraps nor the Retardicans have the answer because they are the problem. Period.
Purge Washington. Call your Congressmen and tell them to vote NO on any bailout. That way, the country will descend into the Greatest Depression which will separate the whiners (like Bookman) from the responsible.
Social Darwinism at its finest.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this
Would a patriotic liberal please step forward? I have read nothing but insults, lies and pure hate here. Not only are liberals still dumping nasty implications, lies and outright gutter talk on President Bush, they do the same for ANY and ALL Republicans.
Liberals cannot believe that anyone would actually sacrifice something for their country. They simply cannot imagine such a thing.
Even when a man like John McCain has given everything, almost his life for this country, liberals insist that he has done nothing and does not care about the USA. Are liberals deaf, dumb, blind and rabid? Can they not see that a strong man in conflict wants to be at the front, not home having a campfire talk with one of the fellows? McCain wants to be at the FRONT where he belongs!
I cannot sit by and say that I think these people care anything about America. Maybe a silent few. But most liberals here seem to hate heroes, the military, freed people, and anyone who even mentions faith or religion, the good character of this country. Liberals have sunk to the level of dog fighters, snarling and biting for the political kill.
I fear for good people who try to improve and protect this country. They are like live bait for the mad dogs. We have a long fight on our hands, not only to save the economy but to stop the pure decimation of America.
By Tea Time
September 24, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this
Obama 08: Sharing Change.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this
Listen to this red faced energy wasting freak:
Al Gore called Wednesday for “civil disobedience” to combat the construction of coal power plants.-Fox
What great timing this raging idiot has for the campaign, insulting the people of Kentucky, West Virginia, Illinois…….
He’s just telling us what Oblahma would do if elected, only with a purple face.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Yes, it was a good show.
Anybody know what that background noise is in w’s speech?
Is it the sound of bs?
By LD
September 24, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
Hmmm, let’s see, what represents real leadership here: a candidate who takes action during a major crisis, or a candidate that just wants to talk about it? I think that one’s pretty obvious.
Here it is these liberals were the same ones in 2004 mocking President Bush for not immediately returning to Washington during 9/11 while it was under attack (since protocol dictates the President be kept away from Washington in a time of war while the city is under threat of attack), yet now they mock John McCain for boldly returning to Washington to help solve another major crisis. I mean, I know liberals don’t know what real leadership looks like, but perhaps it’s time you guys took some notes here.
You can’t have it both ways. McCain decided to take action; Obama just wants to talk about it. Actually, I’m surprised he’s not all for a delay. Gives him more time to set up his teleprompter…problem is, they don’t allow those in the debates. Uh-oh! How will he get his message straight? Maybe he can sneak one of Jay’s pro-Obama articles onto his podium.
Really though, if you want just talk about the problem and not action, if the democrat-controlled Congress does the predictable thing and plays politics with this crisis, you will find you’ll have all the time in the world for debates……once the economy collapses and you don’t have a job anymore.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
looks like someone can’t find her broomstick.
fly, monkeys!!!
fly!!!
By Midori
September 24, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this
getalife,
I heard that noise, too.
must be cheney whacking off at the thought of all the money they’re gonna steal.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this
Bush Calls Meeting With Lawmakers, Candidates- Bush invites McCain, Obama and congressional leaders to White House to discuss proposed financial industry bailout
Sorry but Oblahma has a debate with himself to attend to.
He wont be available.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
LD,
Go tell it to someone who doesn’t know any better: the Fox News and Limbaugh groupies.
By art
September 24, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
This is why America is in crisis. Because all of the responders on this blog and voters in the election are blithering idiots (except me). You all have drunk the corrupt two-party system Kool-Aid.
Geezus!
Do the world a favor and immigrate to Africa!
By T
September 24, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
You know what. I really feel bad for W. I don’t trust him, fully, but I feel bad for him. Say what you will. 30+ years of failed politics and policies have created this mess. Yes, Iraq was wrong. Yet, we as a nation are falling as a world power. Understand, that we are hopefull for foreign jobs. (volvo, honda, and so forth) The average Joe needs this type of labor to survive. Construction that has all but died. Put your political BS aside. Have faith in the American economy and the American people. I hope that Congress handles this correctly.
Someone please get Mr. Frank off of the TV.
By LD
September 24, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
Cynthia and Midori,
Just FYI:
Roll Call: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid Told The White House That Senator John McCain Was Crucial To Any Bailout Deal. “Fearing a political backlash against Democrats, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has told the White House that it must serve up support from Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) if it hopes to ensure bipartisan backing for a massive economic bailout package by week’s end.” (Erin P. Billings and John Stanton, “Reid Seeks McCain Pledge,” Roll Call, 9/24/08)
Hint: it wasn’t Obama who made the first move.
(BTW, Midiori, to borrow a line from your Messiah: “Is that the best you can do?”
By Kelly M
September 24, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
This comment, and the previous 11 (pro-Obama) comments posted under 11 different names but from the same IP address, has been deleted.
By righthousemi
September 24, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
speed black canada england german free
By @@
September 24, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
Uhmmmm jay? It would appear that you’ve overreacted yet again. There was a good reason for McCain going to Washington, and now OBlahMa understand albeit a little late.
You liberals have a tendency to be a bit paranoid. Always thinkin’ there’s a conspiracy goin’ on.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
LD,
I just rose up to the quality of your post.
want “me” to do better?
YOU’LL have to do better.
garbage in; garbage out.
is it me, or does Bush look more like a drunken moron with each passing day?
By LD
September 24, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this
Those of you who think McCain’s move to go back to Washington (and do his primary job, by the way) is a meaningless stunt need to explain how Obama talking helps.
No, really. IF he gets elected anything he can do(which will be the usual blame Republicans and raise taxes even though the head of Fannie Mae who helped create this problem is one of his advisors) is months away. This crisis needs resolution now. How does his puffing up of his ego at a debate do that exactly?
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Bill Clinton just said this on Larry King when Larry asked, “Why is this election so close?” after Bill answered Larry’s question if he thinks Obama will win (which he said yes). Bill answer, paraphrased:
“Elections have always been close and below 50%; the only landslide was Roosevelt. We only won with about 40%.” Actually it was 42%, but who’s counting here.
I surmise Bill Clinton just slipped on remembering Reagan’s 1980 landslide of 45 of 50 states and won participation of eligible voters at 53%. For the record, Roosevelt’s 1932 landslide was 44 of 50 states with 57% (and rather ironic that those states that Hoover carried as a Republican were all in the now liberal northeast).
Now, after tonight’s Bush speech, watch Obama backpedal and head back to Washington. Democrats are now saying it’s okay to drill by letting the bans expire and the FBI is in full investigative form on Fannie and Freddie. Some heads are going to roll, and based on how the Democrats thumbed their nose at the Bush administration in 2003 and regulatory proposals, let the chips fall where they may, people.
By april
September 24, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
McCain hasn’t cast a vote in the Senate since April 8th. Now, he decides to drop everything and get back to work! Also, the McCain campaign wants to push back Biden’s debate with Palin. What is really going on?
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
September 24, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
The terrorist attack, other than the address by George W. Hitler, is coming soon!
By getalife
September 24, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this
Frank said it will pass the House and the Dems support the Dodd bill.
McCain will take the credit for bipartisan solution and not playing politics.
Big gamble but the stunt will probably work.
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, and WHICH political party hung their hats and said they’d just let things “work themselves out” nearly two weeks ago on this financial melt down?
Uh huh. Remember, Hairplugs Biden says it’s “patriotic” to pay more taxes. Our Founding Fathers are rolling over right about now.
Now, maybe people have WOKEN UP and realized you do NOT have a “right” to own a home - rich - OR poor, who Fan & Fred catered to with Dem leadership.
By Dusty
September 24, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this
President Bush made a good speech, sensible, explanatory and without rancor. He loves this country and does not want a financial collapse. As always, he tries to protect us.
I am now hopeful that Congress will find ways to make some changes; such as ways to stops any bonus to leaders of failed companies. I also hope they will find a way to have more oversight than one lead person directing, which is the way it sounds now.
Congress should listen to President Bush who has not thrown up his hands and quit. If they can be as sensible and smart as the President, they will have somethng worked out before next Monday. McCain will be there to do his part. You can count on that.
By AJC/DNC Management
September 24, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this
Hey, somebody jacked al-Gitmo.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this
The President is brilliant on the bailout.
Right Rufus?
Did you miss his quoting another on “the cracker” vote?
Surprised you did not bring that up.
Some heads are going to roll. Probably the CEO’s of the companies they are bailing out.
By sunshine and thunder
September 24, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this
JAY
C’mon, even you have to tip your hat to McCain.
The only way the debate would be fair and give Obamassiah a fighting chance is if McCain didn’t show up.
It’s like YOU having a boxing match with Joe Frazier. It wouldn’t be fair unless you brought a gun.
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this
“The President is brilliant on the bailout. Right Rufus?”
Get, I don’t EVER recalling calling W a Conservative.
“Did you miss his quoting another on “the cracker” vote? Surprised you did not bring that up.”
Actually I must have. I was just back from waiting in line for gas - being REALLY on empty in one of my vehicles.
“Some heads are going to roll. Probably the CEO’s of the companies they are bailing out.”
I doubt it. Plenty of blame to go around here, but Pelosi and Reid sticking their heads in the sand and blaming ALL of this on Bush is laughable.
By @@
September 24, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this
is it me, or does Bush look more like a drunken moron with each passing day?
I’d say it’s just you Midori. You’re inability to focus is probably at fault.
Does the room in which you’re trying to stand appear to be moving?
Project much do ‘ya?
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this
LD,
you remind me of the X-Files Slogan: I want to believe
By getalife
September 24, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this
Rufus,
Can you believe all that he has accomplished in his global initiative? And his take on the American voters? Brilliant mind.
The man should be honored not disrespected.
Obama will meet tomorrow with the photo op.
By nobama-nosocialism
September 24, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
Top Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008
Name Office Party/State Total 1. Dodd, Christopher J S D-CT
$133,900 2. Kerry, John S D-MA
$111,000 3. Obama, Barack S D-IL
$105,849 4. Clinton, Hillary S D-NY
$75,550 5. Kanjorski, Paul E H D-PA
$65,500 6. Bennett, Robert F S R-UT
$61,499 7. Johnson, Tim S D-SD
$61,000 8. Conrad, Kent S D-ND
$58,991 9. Davis, Tom H R-VA
$55,499 10. Bond, Christopher S ‘Kit’ S R-MO
$55,400 11. Bachus, Spencer H R-AL
$55,300 12. Shelby, Richard C S R-AL
$55,000 13. Emanuel, Rahm H D-IL
$51,750 14. Reed, Jack S D-RI
$50,750 15. Carper, Tom S D-DE
$44,389 16. Frank, Barney H D-MA
$40,100 17. Maloney, Carolyn B H D-NY
$38,750 18. Bean, Melissa H D-IL
$37,249 19. Blunt, Roy H R-MO
$36,500 20. Pryce, Deborah H R-OH
$34,750 21. Miller, Gary H R-CA
$33,000 22. Pelosi, Nancy H D-CA
$32,750 23. Reynolds, Tom H R-NY
$32,700 24. Hoyer, Steny H H D-MD
$30,500 25. Hooley, Darlene H D-OR
$28,750
By RB from Gwinnett
September 24, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this
By Dusty 8:55 PM
AMEN!!!
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this
This comment has been pulled on grounds that Midori and @@ need to take a very long breather….
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this
Get, my friend, there is a reason why not ONE Democrat-thought, Democrat-led, and Democrat-drawn bill was vetoed by McBushie in his first six years of tenure.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
you republicans are so stupid.
you’re just STUPID!!
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By RB from Gwinnett
September 24, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this
Did anyone else catch Obami saying this evening we need to have an oversight committe for the Fannie/Freddie deal after he bashed McCain a few days ago about oversight committees? Can the man even keep his train of thought for more than a day or 2 without a teleprompter?
And you libs can laugh off the teleprompter jokes all you want to, but when that man is expected to speak without one, he sounds like a person who is lost and has no clue.
And why do you keep whining about Palin not being “ready to lead” for having no foreign policy experience? Have you morons not looked at Obama’s record lately? Not only does he have no foreign policy expeience, he has no experience period. Of any kind. None. What part of that are you not getting? NONE! Morons….
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
you republicans are so stupid.
you’re just STUPID!!
Why did you take the REPUBLICANS out of that list?
let it ALL hang out for everyone to see!!
By @@
September 24, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
stay away from me, bottom dweller.
you completely creep me out with your stalking
It’s that lib paranoia kicking in Midori.
This is a blogsite. I’m only words on a screen unable to do you harm.
Calm yourself. Have another drink.
By getalife
September 24, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
BTW Rufus,
The President is President Clinton.
w is just w.
Everything turned to crap when we took office.
Now the President were the good ole days.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
ok - hey Andy!!!
pass me one of those bottles of vodka.
By @@
September 24, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this
Dang! I offer Midori a little assistance in combating her demons and Midori pulls her own post?
I’m so confused. (ISH)
and I’m breathing just fine, thank you.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
check out these 2 documents:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020618-1.html
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/32b85c72-859b-11dd-a1ac-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1
By Ray
September 24, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this
Pelosi on NPR today in an interview with a talking head. Said that the whole financial thing was a failure of the “Bush policies” and that it would take a Democrat led Congress to solve this whole thing. I almost puked. She must take the electorate for a bunch of dumb sh**s who don’t know a damn thing. This Democratic led Congress is about the most inept and classically stupid bunch of lawyers that we have ever elected to that august body. And the Demos praise the Annointed One’s Harvard Law Degree. Just what we need….. more lawyers to solve our problems and to show us the way. Boy, I hate to be talked down to.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this
well, Olbermann will be on Letterman later tonight - he’s filling in as McCain cancelled.
McCain lied about it as well - said he had to hurry to DC. But the only place he hurried to was over to CBS to be interviewed by Katie Couric.
It must be in the genes. Why do Republicans have to lie all the time?
Anyhow, everyone have a good evening.
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this
Get, I only caught part of Clinton. I was busy flipping around and that comment caught my attention. I like to get all media reaction perspectives after a Presidential speech, and that includes Faux News and PMSNBC. Why have things gone to hell since Mrs. Pelosi and Harry Reid took control of Congress anyway? Maybe if they actually legislated instead of focusing on going after Bushie & Co. for Revenge Of 2000…
Oh I didn’t just say that.
Midol, I read 9 of 24 are REPUBLICANS in that Top 24 list posted at 10:07. Nobody ever said Republicans do NOT have a hand in Fan & Fred. Democrat Frank said there is no “crisis” even this past summer, let alone in 2003, and guess who two of Barack’s campaign managers are?
By Ray
September 24, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this
Google up Palin’s meeting pictures with Alvaro Uribe. She is nearly nose to nose with this guy and her intense concentration and focus would make most anyone think of something else besides foreign policy. It’s those eyes. Might make you forget why you showed up.
By @@
September 24, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
I think Clinton’s Global Initiative is where Bill’s talents truly shine. I’ve already said OBlahBlahBlahMa’s would be more useful there too.
By CJ
September 24, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this
“Did anyone else catch Obami saying this evening we need to have an oversight committe for the Fannie/Freddie deal after he bashed McCain a few days ago about oversight committees?”
RB is confused. Obama bashed McCain’s idea to create a 9/11 type commission, which would take months to study the problem.
A few days ago, Obama came out with a “Statement of Principles” to apply to any bailout, which included: “No blank check. If we grant the Treasury broad authority to address the immediate crisis, we must insist on independent accountability and oversight.”
A couple of days later, McCain came out with a nearly identical statement of principles, in which, for the first time, he endorsed independent oversight.
By Midori
September 24, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
got to post this before I go
Letterman scalds McCain.
Rufus - that “campaign manager” crap didn’t fly when you people first started spouting that garbage, and it doesn’t fly now.
Good night.
Oh, been taking “how-to-make-up-funny-names-for-people-to-impress-myself” 101, have you?
Grow up.
By bubbaroy
September 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe I read through almost all of these posts. I really do live in the land of idiots. At least there are a few non-brainwashed people in Georgia. (And I have lived here for 61 years.)
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this
Hmmm…
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, when asked Tuesday whether Democrats bear some of the responsibility regarding the current crisis on Wall Street, had a one-word answer: “No.” Pelosi (D-Calif.) ripped President Bush’s “mismanagement” of the economy and a lack of regulation that led to the current situation.
Okay…from the NYT in 2003:
Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this
Midol, I don’t care what the Hollywood liberal kooks think. They are nothing. They WOULD be nothing if they weren’t lowly side show entertainers who make money -who couldn’t make money in America anywhere else. Just ask that drunk drug addict Lindsay Lohan.
Yeah, we should listen to liberal trash like that….
By Rufus
September 24, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this
Here’s a thought. We all know Democrats are all totally not about race and all that. We all know that Democrats have never called Condi Rice “Aunt Jemima” and Clarence Thomas an “Uncle Tom” and all that. We all know that the Democrat Veep candidate alongside Mondale in 1984 said not long ago that “Obama would not be where he was if he were white.”
[sarcasm off]
Now, considering that at least 90% of Republicans vote Republican no matter WHO is the candidate for president, exactly how are Democrats going to spin an Obama loss (IF) as Republican racism? I’d like to throw in that a lot of Democrats have expressed concern for voting for Obama in that fray as well.
This is going to be one VERY interesting election. It will make 2000 and the ramifications (IF) McCane wins look like a “fair” election that was not “stolen.” According to liberals of course.
And for those still awake, my comment about Lohan was that she slammed Palin. Like, who CARES.
By Maria- Athens, Ga.
September 24, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this
Hmmm… Let’s see…. Does a President have to multi-task? I believe we have things called PDA’s, cell phones and this lovely thing I type on called a laptop with internet access. Could John McCain have actually used those items to phone/e-mail in his vote? Even Fox news admits old Johnnie boy does not have the clout or friends in Washington to make a huge difference in this debate. Who wants a President who cannot do more than one thing at a time? Who wants to live through 4 more years of this failing Bush-economics? Not me.
By Maria- Athens, Ga.
September 24, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this
Hmmm… Let’s see…. Does a President have to multi-task? I believe we have things called PDA’s, cell phones and this lovely thing I type on called a laptop with internet access. Could John McCain have actually used those items to phone/e-mail in his vote? Even Fox news admits old Johnnie boy does not have the clout or friends in Washington to make a huge difference in this debate. Who wants a President who cannot do more than one thing at a time? Who wants to live through 4 more years of this failing Bush-economics? Not me.
By Bantryb
September 24, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this
Well, count on the liberal press - you notice I didn’t say reporter or journalist. In the first place, Obama didn’t say ” But he believes the debate should occur so that the American people can hear about this issue from the two candidates who want to become their leader in 120 days.” The number he gave was 40 days. Very anxious boy to begin his “reign”. Report what was said, Bookman. That’s your job.
The truth of the matter is that it is simply beyond the liberal mind that McCain might actually have a sense of honor and leadership and that it might translate as doing HIS job and representing his constituency in one of the most critical decisions of his political career.
It is beyond the liberal mind to believe that unlike his opponent, McCain, who has a history of reaching across the aisle, might make a difference in what is currently a political stalemate.
It is beyond the liberal mind to understand that I don’t CARE what they say in the debates. I’ve done my homework, read the positions of both candidates on the issues, read the platform of both parties, dug into the backgrounds of both candidates and have made an informed decision. Novel concept, eh?
The reason Obama has to be dragged back to the Senate floor is that he has absolutely nothing to offer. He won’t be able to be coached by a Democratic cabinet, he won’t be able to hide behind “hope and change”, he’ll have to put his bona fides on the table, and it scares the hell out of him.
Come on, Bookman, quit fanning the flames and try to act like someone whose best interest is in the country and not in a toastmaster’s debate.
By Maria- Athens, Ga.
September 24, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this
Wow! Conservatives have cornered the market on informed decisions?! Are you really better off than you were 8 years ago? Is our national debt higher or lower? Are you really ready to pay your hard earned tax money to bail out private business? Is your retirement fund better than it was 8 years ago? Is our country more highly regarded throughout the world than it was 8 years ago? Can you buy a gallon of gas for less than $3.00? Can you find gas? Are you able to pay all of your bills and still have money left over? I’m sure I’m very informed of who I will not be voting for this season.
By Peter
September 25, 2008 12:08 AM | Link to this
Bottom line can McLost actually go to Washington…….. think for awhile…………. then get on a plane go to Mississippi……… and actually talk and think some more ?
I think his problem is he NEEDS to be ready……he needs his cue cards, his writers, his depends, and his naps……
He cannot multi task, he doesn’t even know how to e-mail……
CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING A PRESIDENT WHO CANNOT E-MAIL……Gee isn’t that something 10 year old’s do ?
By TRILLTALK
September 25, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this
BRING BACK THE JOBS AND ALL THIS WILL GO AWAY…..YES ITS THAT SIMPLE.
By Rufus
September 25, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe it. Liberals really ARE stupid. Nobody took the misinformation bait at my 9:41 - there were only 48 states during Roosevelt’s election in 1932.
Yeah, like you morons on the left are going to vote for some Chicago political hack who thinks we have 57 states.
God help us.
By Reggie
September 25, 2008 2:11 AM | Link to this
McCain pushed for Fannie/Freddie reform and regulation back in 2005, but was told by Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank that the Dems wouldn’t support it. Check that list of campaign donations and you’ll see why. Obama has two Fannie Mae alums on his economic team. Check that list again and you’ll see why.
By DRW
September 25, 2008 2:28 AM | Link to this
To all posters,
GOP, Dems and Ind.
The entire deal sux.
Reward the CEO’s of the phatt companies with more cash? for doing a slack a$$ job. If you don’t give them the money the financial markets go off line, done, nada.
The U. S. economy tanks, it’s done, over.
All for the fact that a small percentage of the high end staff at Wall Street made millions on trades. Yet, the government offers them a piece of pie, to the tune of 700 billion.
Millions of workers have made payments to Vanguard or other funds, each month, to invest in their retirement, Wall Street played these dollars as chump change.
They cooked the books, played the mortgage game, got a fat bonus, then walked away.
Please review all the info from the GOP and Dems and consider another option.
vote for
Mr. Bob Barr
By AL
September 25, 2008 2:31 AM | Link to this
How Dodd is leading anything is beyond me. He’s part of the F_ng problem. Along with the two do-nothings Reid and Pelosi. Dodd was in bed with Countrywide. Now he’s part of the solution??? Holy Crap. That’s like making Barney Frank head of the Lollipop parade. We’re screwed!!
By Peter
September 25, 2008 2:48 AM | Link to this
Hey Al…..8 years of BUSH….and you think Dodd is the Problem ?
HA HA HA ………
Let’s see the country is BANKRUPT TODAY and we are still making sure the COST PLUS CONTRACTS are being paid……
In the mean time soldiers DIE in the Shower, and the cost of a single soldier’s laundry might be more then you spend in a WEEK on FOOD !
What is the CURRENT DEFICIT……. take off your shoes and count !
By Tater
September 25, 2008 5:02 AM | Link to this
Obama doesn’t know whether to sh#* or wind his watch over Mac’s latest move.
By jayizahomo
September 25, 2008 5:39 AM | Link to this
Bookman is a HOMO!!!!! Cynthia Tucker is a racist LESBO!!!! Bookman takes it up the poop shute!!!! Obama is a SAMBO!!!!
McCain is God!!!!
Palin is a Goddess!!!!
By Old Sunshine
September 25, 2008 5:57 AM | Link to this
Peter, you need to hook back up with Paul and Mary and just stick to your singing. If you could get your flaming liberal head out of the sand and learn a bit you would know that this problem actually started during the CLINTON administration. As usual, you Flaming Liberals only know how to bash the other party and thats about all. Oh, and Peter, yes 10 year olds do email but they are learning. I am sure McCain could do an email if he had to.
Also, Peter, when you see your VP candidate, ask him what years FDR was president and when Television was bestowed on the american people. I think mr Biden is about as nonsensical as Obama.
I hope you have a blessed day and keep that Flame burning LOL.
By Tea Time
September 25, 2008 6:11 AM | Link to this
Letterman hitting the long ball. Truth is easy. Truth is funnier than riff.
Obama/Biden 08: Maybe politics does make for strange bedfellows, but isn’t it get down funky to have a chocolate on the pillows?
McCain 08: Bailin’ without Palin.
It takes two to debate, unless you count the two McCains. The one that sees, and the one that does, you know, monkey see, monkey do,
No, there’s three McCains: the one that hears no debate, the one that sees no debate, and the one that speaks no debate.
McCain 08: He’s three, (3), three chimp-clones in one.
McCain is three, (3), three chimp-clones in one.
………………
Obama 08: America takes over.
By catlady
September 25, 2008 6:29 AM | Link to this
What if a hurricane strikes and there is a war and there are financial problems? Would that be too much for him to handle at once? Would he have to say, “I am suspending the search for survivors until the war is over” or “Hold the tanks! We’ve got a Category 2 coming in!”
Neither McCain nor Obama are the only ones who can save us from our self-inflicted mess. They can phone in their ideas, consult with others by phone, and show us their “presidential” abilities.
By dudley do right
September 25, 2008 6:45 AM | Link to this
Why is it all of a sudden McCain thinks he is relevant in the senate.
He has not voted in the senate since April!
Now…All of a sudden he’s rushing back where he is only ONE of 100….
He is not even on the conference committee.
What a joke, and again the American people serve as the ones PUNKED!
By Former McCain Supporter
September 25, 2008 7:10 AM | Link to this
Wow. Was it just me or did McCain seem afraid to debate now? I sensed a cop out. I can no longer support him. So sad.
By misterearl
September 25, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this
Fact: Obama has been consistent in his message, clear, open, transparent, strong, while McCain has vacillated, switched his message, copied Obama’s message, tried a purely political bet of choosing Palin, and gotten plenty of facts wrong, including last week’s “fundamentals are strong.” He’s a hero from long ago, and now, sadly, past his prime. Palin isn’t yet at her prime.
Palin is being kept in cotton bunting, away from the horrid press (they might ask an actual question!), as if she were as fragile as glass. What’s that about? Fear. Why do they fear? Because exposure to the press would show how unprepared Palin is. The best plan, under these circumstances, is to revile the press, over and over. Comes across as being weak and whiney — because it is!
By wdr
September 25, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
I don’t remember McCain nor Obama being elected to Congress? I believe their titles are “Senator”. You are a joke!
By AllHogwash
September 25, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Koz,
You ALMOST got it right. Now he can call himself Masterdbater. LOL
By misterearl
September 25, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Stop The Madness
The quality of this thread is a perfect illustration of how the educational system has faiied the Southeast.
Please stop with the juvenile insults.
If you have something to say, back it up with facts. Otherwise, there are some bathroom walls that would suit you better.
By misterearl
September 25, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Others have said it, and it is so very, and sadly, true: McCain dragging Palin around the UN to get ‘foreign policy experience’ is more akin to Take Your Daughter to Work Day than anything.
McCain/Palin: One Can’t Remember and the Other One Doesn’t Know!
Kudos to Rove and his minions if he gets this charade elected. I will lick my political wounds and hunker down for a few decades of darkness in every corner, and in every aspect of my beloved country.
— kdc, Burlington, NJ
By Copyleft
September 25, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Heh. Looks like McCain’s attempt to call a “time out” has failed.
So much for the swaggering, manly war-hero image….
By june legge
September 25, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Well, I guess McCain won’t have time to prepare to read the prompter for the debate, so he wants to “delay it”. Or he could, on the other hand, send in Governor Palin, and she could show off her vast knowledge of financial and foreign affairs. She might not be able, however, to shift as fast as he, who last week was pronouning the economy “sound”.
By getalife
September 25, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
“Pastor Blessed Palin To Be Free Of Witchcraft.”
I asked Palin’s pastor to bless this bog to be free of crusty.
Obama will debate Cythia McKinney.
You have now eneterd the Twilight Zone of Presidential politics.
By RealityKing
September 25, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
So McKinney has now challenged Obama to the Friday debate.., and we already know he’s not going to Washington with McCain. What!? Is Obama going to stay home on Friday waiting by the phone for John? The proof always in the pudding..
By JohnD
September 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
The fact is, Obama has campaigned on his ability to get the two parties to work together. Rather than demonstrate his ability, or lack thereof, he wants to talk.
McCain may be the only person, as the head of the Republican party, that can get a compromise in place and get a bill passed. Obama can’t deliver the Republican votes and Democrats won’t really try to compromise.
By CommunistAJC
September 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
JAY BOOKMAN, This article is from Red State. There, I posted where it came from.
We’re Effed, part 2. This time from RedState:
It is becoming abundantly clear that if the Paulson Plan does not pass by market close on Friday, the world will be a very different and more unstable place come sunrise Monday morning.
Why?
The credit market is crashing. There is not enough credit in the market right now. Come Monday, if Wall Street does not have the assurance of a workable plan, the nightmare scenario that there may not be enough credit to get paychecks cashed next week may very well come true.
That is not hyperbole. That is an accurate reflection of existing facts on the ground. It is a very real possibility.
Conservatives are opposed to this plan. But there are too many distractions conservatives are tossing out like “mark to market accounting”. These distractions will not solve the problem.
If the Republicans cannot offer up a real alternative, and the McCotter plan and all other plans taking equity ownership in financial institutions are even more unacceptable than the Paulson plan, the Paulson plan is what we must consider.
If we do nothing by Friday evening, the world’s financial markets could burn on Monday — a massive market crash, the freezing up of credit, massive unemployment, etc. In a better world, the Paulson plan would pass with no add ons and with the assurance that the purchased securities would be purchased based on their present value, not over valued. The companies that made the bad deals would die. Buying the securities overvalued would not only drag out a recession for a decade, but would just roll the ball down the road to be dealt with again at a later date.
Because it does not seem likely that the Paulson Plan can pass in a way to ensure there are no overvaluations of securities and no Democratic add ons, the GOP should vote against the plan. It would, in fact, be better to let the markets burn than socialize them. New forests rise from fire. New markets can rise from a fire. But neither forests nor markets can grow when suffocated.
By RealityKing
September 25, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Obama apprently believe that there are only two candidates running for president? Otherwise update III would include the intellect of Barr, wild-hairs of McKinney and nuttyness of Nadar. Boy, just think of the warm up Obama could obtain for this debate debacle.., if he really meant those words.
By CommunistAJC
September 25, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
dudley do right, And Obama hasn’t voted since last year. Hack. How about that Biden? Dude thinks FDR was president during the Great Depression. What a moron. This guy gaffes more than Obama. And that’s saying something.
By andyt
September 25, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Throughout this campaign, Senator McCain has conducted himself in a very irresponsible manner, and his erratic actions and statements are increasingly befuddling. This latest move is a clear Hail Mary moment designed to switch the conversation from Obama’s lead in the economy to his ‘selfless’ act to ‘save’ the economy with his ONE vote. A brilliant move, despite risks to global confidence, and amidst slipping public polls. Through the campaign, we have seen the spectacle of ‘Celebrity’ while Obama was in Berlin, and Palin’s family drama as analysis of Obama’s speech at the DNC was ripped off the airwaves. And now an act of feigned selflessness in suspending his campaign which has effectively changed the media conversation to inextricably tie the rescue package to his name, at the grave risk of further delaying the time-critical process through injection of presidential politics.
While strategically powerful, one does question why an upright, together candidate, would resort to such wanton acts of manipulation and diversions. ‘Celebrity’ was highly effective, as Obama’s poise, substance and popularity was used effectively against him. However,it is now becoming apparent that the woman who could be a 72-year old heartbeat away from presidency is woefully under-qualified for the task, and was selected purely for shock value and for stealing the media initiative. In this latest move, McCain’s interference risks delaying the bill, and eroding global confidence further by presenting to the world a divided America.
Repeatedly, Senator John McCain has turned away from his old respectable self, offered positions his campaign has not been able to back up (i.e. claiming to fight a lobbyist infested government when his own campaign is staffed and funded heavily by special interests). In his relentless charges of media ‘bias’ (creating doubts in the foundations of truth in society), followed by relentless volleys of lies, John McCain has shown a willingness to apply mass manipulation to misinform the electorate on key issues affecting their choice like taxation (50% of americans still believe that Obama will raise taxes for everyone), and applying the same old tactics of dividing the electorate with choices (abortion, guns, gay marriage) which are totally irrelevant for the challenges facing America today. With his campaign unable to pull ahead, McCain has also shown a willingness to steal the mantle of change from Obama, attempting to make some of his opponent’s key ideas (gov records on the web, reform) look like his own. Of late, there have been a very subtle injection of race into the conversation, and as evident in the rise of intolerant acts and statements across the blogs and across America, he has wilfully fanned the flames of racism - the rot of our society.
At the heart of his strategy is a general assumption that Americans are naive, unable to do their own research, and unable to be critical of attempts at manipulation. Taking a strongly anti-intellectual tone, one questions how this kind of leadership would encourage our young to strive for a better education. Instead of hope and promise, he has driven his campaign through fear and division.
With the race still close, his campaign strategy is still statistically effective. Looking deeper, one question lingers - is winning more important to John McCain than doing the right thing?
By Dismay
September 25, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
“Suspending” his campaign looks to me like he is dropping out and looking for cover from a failing campaign and a doomed debate. The Palin effect has worn off and McCain has never been strong on economic issues. The American public is begging to hear from both McCain and Palin on the real issues so that we can make our own, independent assessment of this teams’ strengths and weaknesses but we, the voters and taxpayers, are shut out. If McCain and Palin do not have the self-confidence to address these issues in public forums this week, they have lost my vote.
By wdr
September 25, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Bush is a liar and that won’t change. He lied about WMD to get into IRAQ. He and McCain both have made recent comments regarding the stability our economy; now, days later, he had to address the nation to let them know he lied. McCain just simply flipped. Please go somewhere else and post your stupid propoganda; or better yet, {“GET OFF OF BUSH’S D—K), Punk!