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The Palin/McCain ticket

A vice presidential nominee is supposed to bring something to the ticket that the top dog can’t.

In that sense, Sarah Palin is perfect for the Republicans. She brings people and attention and excitement, none of which John McCain can attract on his own. That’s one reason he’s keeping her right by his side in the campaign. You can’t have the presidential nominee drawing 400 people to a rally while his running mate draws 4,000. Talk about embarrassing.

But McCain has other reasons for not letting Palin out of his sight. Whenever a slightly touchy policy question comes up at town hall meetings or other formats, McCain has to be ready to step in to save his protege. And sometimes he can’t, as in a recent town hall in which Palin was asked what specific foreign policy experience qualifies her to be vice president. Her response?

“Well, I think because I’m a Washington outsider that opponents are going to be looking for a whole lot of things that they can criticize and they can kind of try to beat the candidates here, who chose me as his partner, to kind of tear down the ticket. But as for foreign policy, you know, I think that I am prepared and I know that on January 20th, if we are so blessed as to be sworn into office as your president and vice president, certainly we’ll be ready. I’ll be ready. I have that confidence. I have that readiness.”

No, she doesn’t. Her pitch that Washington needs an outsider would be a lot more convincing if the outsider in question had been paying serious attention to national and international issues the past few years. She shows no sign of that, and fact that so many in the GOP have embraced her as their party’s future suggests they don’t care a whit about substance but are enthralled by the package.

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By getalife

September 20, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Palin and socialism killed that ticket. It is sad watching McLiar desperately trying to get back to rovian distraction politics after leading on the socialist revolution with Gramm.

This election is about stopping the socialist revolution. Want more socialism, vote gop.

If not, don’t.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 20, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Never forget - Obama, in his infinite wisdom drawn from deep and broad experience, recommended that the security council sanction Russia after the Georgia invasion. Only problem, Russia holds a security council veto and would never sanction itself. Blinded by partisanship and a towering personal arrogance, Obama denied the sucess of the surge (much as his “negotiations without condition” partner from Iran denies the holocaust) of the surge even as the most die hard liberals (among them, Jay) acknowledged the success of our brave warrior soldiers in the surge. So, even if one agrees that Palin is not qualified (and I certainly do not agree as she is no less qualified than a certain debaucher who formerly served as Arkansas governer was in 1993), a reasonable man would rather have the inexperience in the second chair than with its hand on the nuc-u-lar trigger.

By "The Corporal"

September 20, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

If Palin is such a bad choice, why are the liberal loonies so afraid of her? You would think they would just leave her alone and let her self-destruct. Hummmmmm …………

The main reason liberal feminists don’t like Palin is that she is attractive. No contest there.

By Bosch

September 20, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Palin has been using the same lines from her acceptance speech because her Bush speechwriters haven’t written her a new one.

In the same grain, Corporal is reusing his same posts because he can’t think of anything new to say, other than…….

“DUUUUHHHHHHHHHH, UHHHMMMMM”

Corporal, you need a new writer or a new post. Just like Palin’s bs, neither one of your crap is true or interesting.

The Palin honeymoon is over, we’ve woken up the next day and seen her without makeup and realized that last night was a bad drunken dream.

By whoosy

September 20, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

I’m thinking it will be more of the same with Obama and Biden. Obama has no exectutive experience, Biden does. Bush too had a veep with experience, Cheney. Looks like more of the same to me.

I think the Washington greedy and corrupt are clearing out of Washington with their money, causing this financial chaos because they see two well known reformers taking steps towards the White House.

By Bosch

September 20, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Isn’t it fun to turn the whole “socialism” thing around on the GOPers?

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

Can you believe that Jay actually called into question the foreign policy experience of the bottom of the Republican ticket considering what the libs have at the top?

Never mind that both Hair Plugs and Fake Temple Pilot have been wrong about every single solitary foreign policy that they have ever taken a stab at.

Desperate, are you?

By Diane

September 20, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

It’s just plain scary to think of Sarah Palin as Commander in Chief. I am a Democrat who wasn’t thrilled with Obama and was consideringf voting Republican. That changed when the party picked Sarah to run on the ticket with McCain. Joe Biden certainly can take over the Presidency if necessary…….Sarah Palin, NO WAY!!

By James Sheeler

September 20, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

I’ve been casually hearing about Sarah Palin for months, but knew nothing about her until John McCain picked her as his running mate. Now all I can say is “What was he thinking?” If he wanted a female on his ticket he had plenty to choose from, rather than turning his campaign into a side-show. All he accomplished with this pick was to reduce himself to hiding from the media as Palin Palin’s little side-kick. Rather than a campaign I feel like I’m washing a reality show train wreck. I was undecided , but now Bob Barr will be getting my vote on Nov 4th.

By Girl From Texas

September 20, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

One of my initial thoughts when Palin was selected was that if National Security really is such an important issue, then she would not have been selected.

Now, I’m beginning to wonder just how important National Security is.

Putting Palin on his ticket was the smartest thing McCain could have done to win this election. It is depressing however to see how little he respects this country. Unfortunately, if he is elected, this will be only the first of many of his decisions we will be forced to live with.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

“Hillary Sent Me.”

I think they are using the China model of socialism without the accountability part and death sentence.

If they are, the airlines and car companies will be socialized.

Want more socialism, vote gop.

If not, don’t.

By John

September 20, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

It’s not experience that counts, it’s CAPACITY.

Obama has the capacity, McCain and Palin do not.

By the stone men on water street

September 20, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

I don’t know if I like the direction McCain’s campaign has taken after picking her.

I mean, there’s a reason why this page about the Palin Truth Squad works as a parody.

By Patsy

September 20, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Gov. Palin will be o.k. I feel the Dems. are running scared. One thing that I feel she needs to address, is, the story in Utub about her giving open season on the wolves in Alaska. Its showing some horrible videos of shooting and maming wolfs. That is not going over too well, especially with the animal activists or even people I know that are animal lovers.

By "The Corporal"

September 20, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

To All

Following is a few of my vent submissions for this week that the AJC refused to print.

My wife came home with a “Palin” bumper sticker and asked me to put it on her car. I told her a democrat would probably vandalize her car by “keying” it but I did it any way.

Sarah Palin and Barack Obama - the Margaret Thatcher and Neville Chamberlain of America.

Senator Biden calls paying higher taxes a “patriotic act” and to think we went to war once over a “tea tax”.

Liberal facists are trying to “Clarence Thomas” Governor Sarah Palin.

By Matt

September 20, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

“If Palin is such a bad choice, why are the liberal loonies so afraid of her? You would think they would just leave her alone and let her self-destruct. Hummmmmm …………

The main reason liberal feminists don’t like Palin is that she is attractive. No contest there. “

As a “liberal loony” I can tell you that the real thing that we are afraid of is the celebrity exposure tactics used by the GOP. Most of us, unfortunately, know the reality of the American voter is that they would rather vote for Clay Akin than Al Gore.

As for the liberal feminists, Palin was pulled to the vice presidential spot with no major successes in policy, no strong voting record, and no established popular following. That tells us that the GOP’s view of women in politics is that image an absolute necessity but aptitude is completely optional.

By Florida

September 20, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

I have never seen such an obvious good AND bad choice in one election. McCain camp will scratch and claw ans say whatever it takes to get into the whitehouse. Now Obama is not totally innocent, but hes just playing some hardball for once with his oppenent. Id rather have fresh ideas in the whitehouse, than the eventual collapse of the American way with what has been happening. Last, we put a man on the moon, so dont tell me that we cant solve this energy crisis with Obamas plan.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

It is like China won a war and we surrendered.

By ProudTexan

September 20, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

If I were Governor Sarah Palin, I would not worry about my lack of experience in foreign affairs. I would say:” Like many Governors, I have not made many decisions involving other countries, but I am certainly better equipped than some candidate who has suggested that we should accept defeat in Iraq, meet with international rogue countries without preconditions, court foreign crowds by apologizing for our national policies, and our citizens’ behavior.

By Bud

September 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

It always amazes me how liberals can be so easily brainwashed. If you actually do some unbiased research you would know exactly why Palin was chosen. Now if you also do the same type of research on Obama you might know why conservatives can’t believe Obama is running for president.

I have a couple of lesbian freinds who freaked out when Palin was selected. They said they have fought to hard for women’s rights to let McCain and Palin win. I know some of this is because McCain is pro-life. What lesbians/feminists don’t want to hear is that McCain doesn’t want to regulate abortions, on the otherhand liberals do.

The fact that Palin has been skewered by the liberals speaks very loudly that you are afraid of a strong, stable, smart, hardworking mother. I think many feminist/lesbians are ashamed of themselves for being what they are - loud mouthed, self centered, self absorbed, typically childless angry people with a persecution complex.

Keep up the good work…

By getalife

September 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

What do you think Corporal?

Did China win and we surrendered to Chinese socialism?

By RW-(the original)

September 20, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, another mindless attack on the VP candidate’s foreign policy experience, meanwhile…..

CBS 2 HD Has Learned Democrats Threatened To Attack Jewish Groups’ Tax Exempt Status Over VP Nominee Invite

……..we have Democrats threatening the very fabric of our freedom.

“I’m absolutely appalled at the behavior of the Democrats,” said Bob Kunst of Defenders.net. “I’m a Democrat and for the first time in my life I’m going to vote Republican. I can’t take it anymore.”

Back on topic though, I believe I’m more comfortable with someone that may have to gather her experts together than I am with the Democrat duo that both think they know everything and are only consistent in that they’re always wrong.

By "The Corporal"

September 20, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

To Matt

For you to tout Republicans (as opposed to Democrats) being known for using celebrity exposure tactics is absolutely laughable.

You have lost all credibility on this one.

The fact is that the majority of American voters are unfortunately unlearned, uninformed, non-tax paying individuals who vote primarily on emotion and what’s good for them rather than what’s good for the country.

That’s the basic difference between a Republican and a Democrat.

By Ray

September 20, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

If all of you libs are correct, the Annointed One should be running against McCain and not his VP pick. Rove gave him some pretty good advice when he said that running against the wrong candidate will lose you elections. Palin has had 5 times as many media attacks as has McCain. The lib media is scared. Biden doesn’t sell newpapers, TV ads and internet trash, Palin does. In Biden’s run for the White House on two occasions, he got pathetically few votes. America doesn’t really like him. If Palin and Biden were running for the presidency, she would put him away, despite all of his “experience”. Mr. Wonderful knows this and knows that he made a bad pick. With the Hilldabeast on the VP side, it was sewed up. Another hole in the foot.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

I talked to a couple of good old boys this morning who noticed the McCain-Palin sticker on thee back window, and the first words out of their mouths, well, after all the Hot Sarah talk, was, “they want to drill.”

Word.

The main issue of the campaign, guess who owns it, everybody knows it.

They rambled on for five minutes about how sick and tired they were of getting “gouged” on energy and told me that many, many people are madder than hell.

At the dimocrats.

It goes without saying that we know, should the need arise for a major foreign policy decision to be made, McBushie and General Patreous will handle it.

Let’s see what Sarah can do about getting us our oil and gas from Alaska.

By Ray

September 20, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Jay,

On your previous blog, G-Man posted a poll taken by Yahoo which might be one of the defining articles about this whole election, http//news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race

Any chance of you opening the door on this subject? No one else has and it will have a lot to do with who wins, despite all of this lib/conserv rhetoric.

By odon

September 20, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

It’s a good thing that the “silent majority” doesn’t listen to all of you two faced libs. When the person who, in almost all catagories, meets your criteria for the high position of womanhood, actually confesses that to be where you want to be, you actually have to do it on your own without the help of the political correctness crowd, you attack not only her, but her family. Make accusations that have absolutely nothing to do with the job she is vying for. Try to twist and spin everything said, with a viciousness not seen since the Andrew Jackson political era. How could you posssibly claim fairness,or (here’s one for you)”tolerance”. Is this not the mantra for your upright views? At least it was until your O’bama slide down to reality,let’s call it a correction, an adjustment of the reality of life. I listened to the O’bama hype during the convention and all I got out of it was that he will put a chicken on every table, (but only once), and he will get the rich to pay for it. After which, he will raise taxes on all making over $250K. Let’s see..he made what, $4million, that’s right, $4 million last year and he’s claiming that he’s on the side of the middle class? Come now. $250K is the small bussiness backbone of this country!! As usual it’s tax, tax, tax. Unfortunetally, the tax is regressive and the the people who will pay the most is EVERY0NE under that limit! Oh, you say how can that be? Business passes all taxes and all charges on to the consumer,(DUH!)So who pays? The people at the bottom with the least. Congratulations, Mr. O’bama. Can you say “Hoodwinked” children?? AS for the BIG OIL Companies, are they not allowed to make a profit like, oh for instance, HARVARD, which had more net profit than EXXON. We’re talking BILLIONS here. EXXON 15.4 Billion,Harvard 24 Billion! Come on! At that rate everyone could go to Harvard for practically nothing. Can you believe that?? If O’bama is for higher education for all my children how come he’s not making noises about getting these exceptionaally rich colleges to have a heart and “subsidize” the poor to enter these esteemed Educational facilities, which by the way, are “susidized” by the FED,i.e.you and me,already? Just a few thoughts.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Corporal said: Back on topic though, I believe I’m more comfortable with someone that may have to gather her experts together than I am with the Democrat duo that both think they know everything and are only consistent in that they’re always wrong.

We already tried it your way…..remember Bush, that moron you voted into the White House? We’ve already seen how well it works with clueless leaders listening to their “experts”.

I’m voting for the smarter guy this time.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

ProudTexan said:Like many Governors, I have not made many decisions involving other countries, but I am certainly better equipped than some candidate who has suggested that we should accept defeat in Iraq, meet with international rogue countries without preconditions, court foreign crowds by apologizing for our national policies, and our citizens’ behavior.

So how would a clueless Governor be better equipped??? Do you have any specifics or is that just more clueless “happy talk” for mindless supporters grasping as reasons to support a clueless idiot (just like themselves”???

By TeaTime

September 20, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Palin/McCain 08: If politics makes for strange bedfellows, then America just got short-sheeted.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

By AJC/DNC Management September 20, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this Can you believe that Jay actually called into question the foreign policy experience of the bottom of the Republican ticket considering what the libs have at the top?

Hey clueless, at least Obama knows a lot more that’s going on in the world than Ms. Bimbo “I can see Russia from my house”. In fact, Obama has been saying for years that we should be concentrating our resources in Afghanistan. And who had said that invading Iraq was a mistake before most other folks??? I guess he was better informed than Bush/Cheney and all their “experts”

Jay’s right to question her qualifications. Old geezer McCain may not even finish his first term.

By TeaTime

September 20, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

The SnowWitch.

The snow witch had been planning a real speech for some time; the old fashioned kind, where you say more than one word.

She practiced in front of a mirror. She gesticulated wildly for emphasis. She paused at critical points for drama. She varied her tone and at some parts would yell out at the top of her lungs. She would be ready.

The day of her speech arrived and she stood before the throngs, silent. She didn’t move, or say anything for a few minutes. The tension grew quickly as the seconds passed and she just stood there looking at her audience, who were on pins and needles. More seconds passed, another minute, how long would she wait. The electricity was unbearable. Then, unexpectedly, she took a drink of water. That broke some of the tension and murmurs of remarks could barely be heard, but it was soon as quiet as a tomb again and still the SnowWitch did not flinch or say a word.

The agony of silence was broken anticlimaticly when the SnowWitch uttered in a barely audible, low voice….”Ladies and Gentlemen, Pointy heads, Fellow Pundits, Bloggers, Council Members, members of the army, members of the gentry, and of course, the rabble…..”

She started in such a low volume that the pointy heads were leaning forward in their seats to try to glean some phrase or every other word or something….

The Snow Witch then spoke in normal tones at normal volume, and the pointy heads settled back, totally absorbed in the main body of the SnowWitch’s address……and when the speech was finished, the Pointy Heads had their scapegoat, a group who had previously gone under the radar, a group who was most certainly responsible for all that had gone wrong in the past…..it took the SnowWitch to see it, and to point it out to the pointy heads who lived in the land of the pundits…..

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

MCCAIN’S FLIP-FLOPS IN JUST 1 WEEK!!!

He said the fundamentals of the economy were “strong,” then he said the economy was “in crisis.”

He called for a 9/11 Commission-style investigation into the financial crisis, then never brought it up again.

He said he opposed the $85 billion bailout of insurance giant AIG, then he said he supported it.

He said SEC Chairman Chris Cox had “betrayed the public’s trust” and should be fired, then called him a “good man” who only had to resign to be held accountable as the head of the commission.

In just one freaking week. AND to cap it call, whereas Obama said he supported whatever steps the Fed Chairman and Treasury Secretary took to calm the markets, McCain used this grave issue to attack and blame Obama for this crisis.

So, who’s looking Presidential now? Do I want someone who’s calm in the face of difficulties or someone who blindly lashes out???

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

By Chris Salzmann September 20, 2008 1:14 PM And who had said that invading Iraq was a mistake before most other folks???

Let’s not leave that unanswered, it was the Teleprompter Wizard that said it.

The biggest foreign policy achievement in our lifetimes, America did the right thing by removing a sadistic dictator with the approval of the U.S. Congress and acting under a United Nations mandate. And for once, well at least since Vietnam, we did not abandon the people of Iraq to the cutthroat terrorists nor did we suffer a defeat at the hands of a raggedy as-s band of murderers and religious extremists. No, we came away victorious as a nation and I believe that frightens and confuses you koward liberals.

Iraq is a free and independent country with democratically elected leaders that can protect themselves and is an ally in the war against terror and that pis-ses you liberals off more than anything.

I got your “mistake.”

What would idiot Oblahma “achieved” for us, an utterly humiliating defeat?

Wow, that’s what I want.

Not.

By RW-(the original)

September 20, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Well the Obama ground strategy for Virginia and probably every other battleground state has been unveiled.

Voter fraud using out of state students

Long said she’s now reviewing an application from a student from Savannah, Ga., who pays out-of-state tuition, is declared as a dependent in Georgia and has a Georgia driver’s license and car registration.

How is it they even have to review that one? Rejecting it should be a no brainer.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

AC/DC said: The biggest foreign policy achievement in our lifetimes, America did the right thing by removing a sadistic dictator with the approval of the U.S. Congress and acting under a United Nations mandate.

YOU’RE KIDDING, RIGHT??? I thought we went into Iraq because they were a clear and direct threat to the United States??? What happened to all those chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons threatening us??? What happened to Iraq supporting Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 terrorists???

Acting under a UN Mandate??? Which one? That’s NEWS to me.

Iraq is a free country that can now protect itself??? So why are we still there? In reality, we removed a Sunni dictator and pushed Shia Iraq into Shia Iran’s fold.

Here’s my question: Where’s the mastermind of 9/11??? You know, that Bin Laden guy? The same guy Bush wanted dead/alive? The guy who actually planned 9/11? Why is he still running around free?

By Shripathi Kamath

September 20, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Exactly right!

You don’t get to call yourself better just because you claim to be different.

The media is using kid-gloves when it comes to Palin. A smart strategy of preemption launched by the McPalin campaign in the footsteps of many a religious bombast.

Nail yourself to the cross and claim persecution!

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) September 20, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Well the Obama ground strategy for Virginia and probably every other battleground state has been unveiled. Voter fraud using out of state students

Long said she’s now reviewing an application from a student from Savannah, Ga., who pays out-of-state tuition, is declared as a dependent in Georgia and has a Georgia driver’s license and car registration.

How is it they even have to review that one? Rejecting it should be a no brainer.

I read the piece and it says nothing about voter fraud. Lets see, the student lives in VA, studies in VA, pays school tuition in VA. VA election law does not specifically address the situation. Should all these students be disenfranchised because they are out of state students in VA? That will be addressed before the election.

If you want to talk about voter fraud, lets talk about election caging tactics being tried out by the Republican Party in MI and FL. That basically is the tactic of using home foreclosures lists to disqualify people from voting. NOW THATS SICK!!!

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Jay Bookman, talking about the ‘package’ AGAIN and claiming nothing attractive about Sarah Palin but her “good looks”.

All that while Obama is so wrapped in a huge package of liberal adorned ribbons that it is amazing. Short political experience, bad and bigoted companions, drugs, congressional absenteeism, anti-war, flip flopping, socialism in many forms, muslim schooling in a muslim country….that is the glorious gift that liberals are dead set on forcing upon us. BUT THEY ARE FAILING! Bye, bye Obama.

Americans are not blind and cannot be fooled for long. The masquerade of Obama is wearing thin and Dems are desperate.

Governor Sarah Palin looks better and better just being the real thing. No peacock strut. Just confidence, composure, common sense and political experience. She’s got IT and the libs hate IT.

Watch out, Bookman. Your envy is showing… among other things.

By mAtt

September 20, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

This is probably the most interesting and bizarre comment thread I’ve ever read on this site. Viz.:

September 20, 2008 11:20 AM “Want more socialism, vote gop.”

September 20, 2008 12:13 PM “Liberal facists are trying to “Clarence Thomas” Governor Sarah Palin.”

You’re reading that correctly: Republicans are now socialists, and Democrats are now fascists. The whole world is on its head.

By Bud Wiser

September 20, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Obama’s only 25% black and he’s got the g-rats wrapped around his finger to the tune of @95%.

Palin’s 100% woman, and she’ll draw a lot of female voters just because of that.

Very few use their brains to vote anymore …. blacks voting for a partial black, women voting for a woman.

It takes the white men of America to sort it all out, and that is not meant as a sexist statement either, just fact.

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid and racist ( a hard set to separate there for sure)

McCain/Palin ‘08 - chicks dig the old guy

By RW-(the original)

September 20, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Chris Salzman,

If you truly read the article then you’d know that Virginia law differentiates between residence and domicile, but the Obama campaign is trying to block the efforts to determine domicile. Paying out of state tuition is a pretty clear indicator of your domicile being out of state, as is holding a driver’s license and vehicle registration from another state.

Of course based on the rest of what you’ve spewed it’s obvious you couldn’t read it even if you went to the link.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Dusty Said:Americans are not blind and cannot be fooled for long. The masquerade of Obama is wearing thin and Dems are desperate.

Governor Sarah Palin looks better and better just being the real thing. No peacock strut. Just confidence, composure, common sense and political experience. She’s got IT and the libs hate IT.

So why’s Obama constantly ahead in the polls??? Also Sarah is the real thing? Common sense? “I can see Alaska from my house so I know Russia??? I’ve changed my story about EVERYTHING so many times I don’t know what’s true anymore??? Example of this is how she accepted the decision to be VP: Didn’t blink (on Gibson), had my daughter’s put it to vote (on Hannity), asked husband first (Todd Palin on Fox). Which story is true is anyone’s guess.

The only thing I agree with is that she’s confident alright. She lies VERY CONFIDENTLY.

What about Todd Palin being a member of the Alaska Independence Party till 2002? In a Fox interview, he differentiated between American’s and Alaskans. Last I heard, they were both Americans.

By TW

September 20, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

Ego will kill them Jay. When the Dems took their lumps, they revised the message and it is why they will win in November (that and the Republican harry carey). Now, it’s the Republicans turn to reinvent - but ego won’t let them. Conservatives are all but done with the party, and in return the neocons go inlist Sarah Palin? She will cost them this one, the next one, and possibly the one after that, Not until W and the likes of Sarah are not only dropped, but denounced as the mistkes they are, will a healing begin in the Republican party. How ironic that the pride and ego they trumpet as the backbone of their party are the same entities presently kickin’ their tails?

Oh, and every month that this abortion on the right continues, another month of eighteen year olds is able to register and see that the neocon movement is not only a selfish joke - but a loser as well.

Fine by me.

By Tim

September 20, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

What will the Flea Markets do with all the “Obama” Tshirts and hats if he loses?

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Hey RW, here’s a cut and paste from the HEADLINE of that piece you quote: Norfolk officials ease rules for registering student voters

So, if they loosened their registration procedures, how does it make it “voter fraud”.

Did YOU read the whole piece???

By Joe

September 20, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

So the top of the dem ticket with Barrack Hussein Obama has foreign policy experience. The Obama/Biden ticket is more of the same. Do nothing but let the people suffer with high gas prices and a failing economy…

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

By Chris Salzmann September 20, 2008 1:55 PM YOU’RE KIDDING, RIGHT??? I thought we went into Iraq because they were a clear and direct threat to the United States??? What happened to all those chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons threatening us??? What happened to Iraq supporting Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 terrorists??? Acting under a UN Mandate???

Blah, blah, blah:

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a resolution by the UN Security Council, passed unanimously on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq “a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations” that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284).

That Iraq was in material breach of the ceasefire terms presented under the terms of Resolution 687. Iraq’s breaches related not only to Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), but also the known construction of prohibited types of missiles, the purchase and import of prohibited armaments, and the continuing refusal of Iraq to compensate Kuwait for the widespread looting conducted by its troops in 1991.

Klown.

By RW-(the original)

September 20, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Chrissie,

One big mistake you moonbats always make is taking a headline and pretending it tells the story. It rarely does and didn’t in the case of your cut and paste.

You and your question mark key have a good afternoon and I’ll check back to see if you’ve worn it out later.

By Gazoo

September 20, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

if experience were an honest concern in this election, Obama never would have been picked over Clinton.

It’s humorous watching this disingenuous panic about a VP selection by the very same people that support Obama.

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Chris Salzman, 2:14

Do you live in Athens and have a propensity for jacking emails? Just wondering. You sound well informed on small details. Democrats certainly know how to get well informed. Phewww!!

You TRY to stetch a molehill into a mountain. Alaska IS across the bay from Russia and was once owned by Russia. How do you know she can’t see it? The point is—she is not UNFAMILIAR WITH RUSSIA. She did not claim to be a diplomat.

And you, jerk, obviously don’t have a close family. Sarah Palin wanted her family to be part of her decision to be VP. She probably got them TOGETHER and asked them how they felt about it.

Mr. Palin is a worker on the oil fields and on fishing boats, in season. He sounds about as American as a working man can be. 2002? Six years ago he dropped out of a group that didn’t interest him or he would have stayed. What were YOU doing six years ago? Never changed your mind EVER?

Go back to your cadre of paid volunteers. It is easy to spot them everytime. They spout the same minutia including their liberal adornments.

By AmVet

September 20, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

The ranking for the fattest states just came out and predictably the Moron Belt red states occupy virtually all of the top spots.

Just as they occupy all of the bottom spots in education rankings.

The GOP’s “southern strategy” - go after the fat, dumb and lazy vote. Throw in the racists and bible thumpers and they’re sure to win Georgia.

I truly hope John McCain remains healthy as a horse if elected. His replacement is clearly in WAY over her head.

We as a nation have just suffered through eight years of the most awful president in American history. Remember he ran as an outsider with no foreign policy experience?

And look at how badly he shiite the bed.

No wonder these BushCo apologists and faux conservatives think the imminently unqualified Palin is a good choice.

Anyone who voted for Dumb and Dumber should do the country a huge favor and just stay home on November 4.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) September 20, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this Chrissie, One big mistake you moonbats always make is taking a headline and pretending it tells the story. It rarely does and didn’t in the case of your cut and paste.

CHRIS: So where does it make a case for election fraud in the entire story??? In fact, the word FRAUD is not even mentioned once!!! The laws were changed to accommodate out of state students. How does that constitute election FRAUD???

I’ve cut and paste the full story here to prove the point:

Norfolk officials ease rules for registering student voters

Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign complained about the Norfolk registrar’s policy of sending a questionnaire to anyone applying to register from a college campus, saying the form discouraged students from following through.

City confusion The city’s questionnaire sought to establish domicile, as required under state law. It asked such questions as whether the students pay out-of-state tuition, pay Virginia income taxes or have a Virginia driver’s license. Now, local election officials don’t know how a student’s residency status will be determined.

NORFOLK

Norfolk election officials on Friday reluctantly loosened procedures for registering college students to vote after protests from presidential candidate Barack Obama’s campaign and an admonishment from state election officials.

The Illinois senator’s campaign complained that the Norfolk registrar’s policy of sending a questionnaire to anyone applying to register from a college campus discouraged students from following through. The State Board of Elections asked general registrar Elisa J. Long to halt the practice.

The Norfolk Electoral Board agreed to that but said in a statement: “This compliance is with the understanding that the Board strongly feels that by doing so, we are out of compliance with Virginia Election Laws.”

Kevin Griffis, a spokesman for Obama’s campaign in Virginia, said Norfolk’s practice was “completely ridiculous” and had “a chilling effect on voter registration on campuses.”

Obama’s campaign has been aggressively registering students in Virginia, viewed as a battleground state. Griffis said Obama “is energizing young voters in a way that’s not happened in a generation or more.”

Of Virginia’s 49,000 new registrations in August, 43 percent were age 23 and under, he said.

State law requires registrars to decide eligibility based on two components of residence: place of abode and domicile. Long said the questionnaire had been used to determine domicile and was based on suggested questions from the state elections office. Abode is address.

“The frustration is that the code says you may ask questions to help you make the determination of domicile, yet now we’re being told we cannot use a questionnaire,” Long said.

“Domicile is a tricky question; we don’t consider any one thing,” she said. Questions included whether the students pay out-of-state tuition, pay Virginia income taxes or have a Virginia driver’s license.

Long said she does not know how a student’s residency status now will be determined.

Mary Alana Welch, a 21-year-old student at Old Dominion University, received one of the questionnaires.

“It was a big deterrent,” she said. “It gave me the impression I wasn’t supposed to be registering here.”

She said she never returned it and is still figuring out how to change her registration from Northern Virginia to Norfolk.

To cast her first vote, she wants to go to the polls instead of sending in an absentee ballot.

Long and the Norfolk Electoral Board are urging that the General Assembly clarify the student voter registration policy.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia agrees.

“College students are in a unique situation…. They live in two places,” the organization’s executive director, Kent Willis, said. “The state law does not address that properly.”

“If homeless people have the right to vote by choosing their principal residence, college students ought to have the same right.”

Long said she’s now reviewing an application from a student from Savannah, Ga., who pays out-of-state tuition, is declared as a dependent in Georgia and has a Georgia driver’s license and car registration.

“What automatically makes these out-of-state students Virginians?” she asked.

The Norfolk Electoral Board statement reads: “Although the revised policy guidelines places the burden of proof of residence with the person asserting it, the policy allows students to claim residence in Virginia unchallenged.”

Firestorm s erupted in a few other Virginia college towns this month - including Blacksburg with Virginia Tech - over college student registrations, particularly those of out-of-state students.

Registrars in two other local cities with colleges - Virginia Beach and Williamsburg - said they do not use questionnaires. Newport News officials could not be reached.

By Slick

September 20, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Sarah Palin is another example of why McCain is the DUMB candidate - as well as the one who doesn’t know TRUTH from LIE.
She adds another nominee who is DUMB as a red brick, and does not know TRUTH from LIE.

Joe Biden is another example of why Obama is the SMART candidate - as well as one who knows and values experience and competence.

On the DUMB side: McCain graduated in the BOTTOM FIVE of a 900 midshipman class. Palin attended five different “educational” institutions in order to string together enough credits for a degree in journalism, one of the least demanding academic degrees. The DUMB ticket…

On the SMART side: Obama graduated from Columbia University, and Harvard Law in the TOP of his class. Biden graduated from Syracuse University and Law School. The SMART ticket…

I’ll take the SMART ticket any day over the DUMB ticket!!

AND SO SHOULD EVERYONE!

Except, of course, the DUMB posters on this blog (you DUMMIES know who you are - and so do all of the SMART posters).

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Hey AC-DC,

Blah Blah Blah (your quote) just shows you really have nothing to say about why we actually went into Iraq in the first place. I guess you’ve conviniently forgotten about the administration quotes on Iraq having WMD’s and how the administration erroneously tried to tie Iraq and 9/11. Nice try on re-writing history. Nice reason to kill 4000 Americans, maim 30,000 Americans and waste $ 1 Trillion dollars.

The Bush administration killed and wounded more Americans than Al-Qaeda ever did and they’re going to get away with it.

The UN Mandate you quoted was never proven to be in breach because the UN Arms Inspectors never found any WMD’s. In fact, Bush had them removed so he could start the war.

Nice try again but history has again proven that argument wrong.

Try pulling the wool over someone else’s eyes; it won’t work here.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Slick said:On the DUMB side: McCain graduated in the BOTTOM FIVE of a 900 midshipman class. Palin attended five different “educational” institutions in order to string together enough credits for a degree in journalism, one of the least demanding academic degrees. The DUMB ticket…

On the SMART side: Obama graduated from Columbia University, and Harvard Law in the TOP of his class. Biden graduated from Syracuse University and Law School. The SMART ticket…

I’ll take the SMART ticket any day over the DUMB ticket!!

GOOD POST SLICK!!! COULDN’T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

By TeaTime

September 20, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

The SnowWitch.

The snow witch had been planning a real speech for some time; the old fashioned kind, where you say more than one word.

She practiced in front of a mirror. She gesticulated wildly for emphasis. She paused at critical points for drama. She varied her tone and at some parts would yell out at the top of her lungs. She would be ready.

The day of her speech arrived and she stood before the throngs, silent. She didn’t move, or say anything for a few minutes. The tension grew quickly as the seconds passed and she just stood there looking at her audience, who were on pins and needles. More seconds passed, another minute, how long would she wait. The electricity was unbearable. Then, unexpectedly, she took a drink of water. That broke some of the tension and murmurs of remarks could barely be heard, but it was soon as quiet as a tomb again and still the SnowWitch did not flinch or say a word.

The agony of silence was broken anticlimaticly when the SnowWitch uttered in a barely audible, low voice….”Ladies and Gentlemen, Pointy heads, Fellow Pundits, Bloggers, Council Members, members of the army, members of the gentry, and of course, the rabble…..”

She started in such a low volume that the pointy heads were leaning forward in their seats to try to glean some phrase or every other word or something….

The Snow Witch then spoke at times in normal tones at normal volume, and at other times in shrieks of outrage and dissent, and the pointy heads settled back, totally absorbed in the main body of the SnowWitch’s address……and when the speech was finished, the Pointy Heads had their scapegoat, a group who had previously gone under the radar, a group who was most certainly responsible for all that had gone wrong in the past…..it took the SnowWitch to see it, and to point it out to the pointy heads who lived in the land of the pundits…..

By TeaTime

September 20, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Sarah Palin is a Mother I’d Lobby For!!!

Palin/McCain 08: If politics makes strange bedfellows, then America just got short sheeted.

By jim

September 20, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

The first thing I think of when I hear Obama is “TWENTY YEARS”. It took him “TWENTY YEARS” to find out what was happening in his church and now, in a flash, he is going to solve the worlds problems with a few highfalutin words and preacher like deliveries. His knowledge of world affairs didn’t seem to good in the Debates as Hillary “cleaned his plow” in all of them.

If Palin is halve as good as she appears. I don’t think we could go wrong with her, She beats the other 3 “hands down”.

Remeber “TWENTY YEARS”

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Jay Bookman Said: …..and fact that so many in the GOP have embraced her as their party’s future suggests they don’t care a whit about substance but are enthralled by the package.

AND THE REPUBLICANS SAY OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE MINDLESS SHEEP???

IS PALIN “”THE ONE”“? YES, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL REVIEW!

http://nrd.nationalreview.com/

ROFL!

By Midori

September 20, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

LMAO - I see Chris is giving our resident wingnuts fits.

too funny!!

good job, Chris.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Jim said: His knowledge of world affairs didn’t seem to good in the Debates as Hillary “cleaned his plow” in all of them. If Palin is halve as good as she appears. I don’t think we could go wrong with her, She beats the other 3 “hands down”.

What the heck is a “halve”??? At least he didn’t claim that he understand’s Russia because he lives in an adjoining state.

Palin’s lies are becoming legendary. Bridge to Nowhere, Troopergate, “Didn’t Blink”, etc, etc.

So you aren’t voting for the “Old Man” but for the mindless Bimbo??? Says a lot about your level of intelligence (or lack of it).

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

By Dusty September 20, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to thisChris Salzman, 2:14 DUSTY: Do you live in Athens and have a propensity for jacking emails? Just wondering. You sound well informed on small details. Democrats certainly know how to get well informed. Phewww!!

CHRIS: SO I”M WELL INFORMED. HOLD THAT AGAINST ME! LOL

DUSTY: You TRY to stetch a molehill into a mountain. Alaska IS across the bay from Russia and was once owned by Russia. How do you know she can’t see it? The point is—she is not UNFAMILIAR WITH RUSSIA. She did not claim to be a diplomat.

CHRIS: AND I GUESS SARAH PALIN WAS AROUND WHEN RUSSIA OWNED ALASKA BACK IN THE 1800’s??? SHE SAID SHE WAS FAMILIAR WITH RUSSIA BECAUSE ITS NEXT DOOR. READ THE GIBSON INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPTS. I CAN SEE THE MOON FROM MY BACKYARD, THAT MAKE ME AN ASTRONAUT??? ACCORDING TO SARAH PALIN, YES IT DOES.

And you, jerk, obviously don’t have a close family. Sarah Palin wanted her family to be part of her decision to be VP. She probably got them TOGETHER and asked them how they felt about it.

CHRIS: SO WHY WITH GIBSON DID SHE SAY SHE DIDN’T BLINK BEFORE SAYING YES? ON HANNITY SHE SAID SOMETHING ELSE. HER HUSBAND TODD HAD ANOTHER STORY ABOUT THIS ON FOX. CAN YOU EXPLAIN ALL THE INCONSISTENT STORIES ABOUT THIS??? UNLESS THEY’RE ALL LYING! LOL

Mr. Palin is a worker on the oil fields and on fishing boats, in season. He sounds about as American as a working man can be. 2002? Six years ago he dropped out of a group that didn’t interest him or he would have stayed. What were YOU doing six years ago? Never changed your mind EVER?

CHRIS: HE DROPPED OUT OF THE ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY WHEN HIS WIFE FIRST RAN FOR LT. GOVERNOR IN, COINCIDENTALLY, ALSO ……….IN 2002! LOL!!! 6 YEARS AGO, I STILL DIDN’T THINK GA SHOULD GO ITS SEPARATE WAY. AND IN A FOX INTERVIEW HE DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN AMERICANS AND ALASKANS. HMMMMMM???

Go back to your cadre of paid volunteers. It is easy to spot them everytime. They spout the same minutia including their liberal adornments.

CHRIS: SORRY, I DON’T GET PAID TO DO THIS. I GUESS THAT MAKE ME PRETTY STUPID! LOL. THAT’S ONE THING I COULD AGREE WITH.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks—many calling them “lazy,” “violent” or responsible for their own troubles.

Suck on that, liberals.

And by the way, I think that most elite blowhard white liberals are “lazy,” “violent” or responsible for their own troubles.

By Midori

September 20, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Chris,

prepare yourself for a full on assault.

they are gathering their stupid talking points attack against you as I type.

been there; done that.

they are so predictable.

By Mike

September 20, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me one thing that Obama has accomplished in office?

Just trying to understand how Palin can be continually bashed when I can’t find anyone who can tell me one thing Obama has accomplished as an elected official.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Again, just because he is half white and white power has turned our country into socialism, is no reason to vote against him.

Do you know who will buy the Treasury debt now that Japan and China said no more?

Do you think they are using the “pinko” China model of socialism and capitalism is dead?

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

By AJC/DNC ManagementSeptember 20, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks—many calling them “lazy,” “violent” or responsible for their own troubles.Suck on that, liberals. And by the way, I think that most elite blowhard white liberals are “lazy,” “violent” or responsible for their own troubles.

CHRIS: NO ONE EVER SAID IT WOULD BE EASY. BUT HE”S AHEAD IN THE POLLS INSPITE OF ALL THIS. GO CHEW ON THAT!!!

AND THESE POLLS DON’T CALL PEOPLE WITH CELL PHONES. MOST YOUNG VOTERS DON’T HAVE LAND LINE PHONES. SO, HE’S AHEAD INSPITE OF THE POLLS NOT COUNTING A LARGE SEGMENT OF WOULD BE OBAMA SUPPORTERS!

GO CHEW ON THAT TOO!

By Midori

September 20, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

it appears that Andy is so very proud of the racism that exists in this country.

telling, isn’t it?

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

By Midori September 20, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this Chris, prepare yourself for a full on assault. they are gathering their stupid talking points attack against you as I type. been there; done that. they are so predictable.

CHRIS: Thanks Midori.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Mike,

Ethics bill but there is more if you bother to use the google.

Did you know McCain and Gramm showed leadership in deregualtion to cause socialism?

Do you think McCain should resign in disgrace?

Good thing they are not in China. They know how to hold people accountable.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

By Chris Salzmann September 20, 2008 3:00 PM |Hey AC-DC,

Something wrong with being gay, chrissy?

Blah Blah Blah (your quote) just shows you really have nothing to say about why we actually went into Iraq in the first place. I guess you’ve conviniently forgotten about the administration quotes on Iraq having WMD’s

Uh-huh:

According to the report, a large stockpile of concentrated natural Uranium, known as “yellowcake,” reached a Canadian port to complete a top secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad, and a ship voyage crossing two oceans. The Uranium material had been housed at a former IraqiJerry Curry nuclear complex 12 miles from Baghdad.

Aahhh, yes, thee yellow cake that Mrs. Plame was looking for.

and how the administration erroneously tried to tie Iraq and 9/11.

Yep-

It is the little-discussed original indictment of bin Laden, obtained by the Justice Department in spring 1998 — several weeks before the embassy bombings and at a time when the government thought it would be prudent to have charges filed in the event an opportunity arose overseas to apprehend bin Laden. Paragraph 4 of that very short indictment reads:

Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.

Not only that, Has Been Laden specifically called for jihad against America because we were bombing Iraq, try reading a book, toady.

Nice try on re-writing history. Nice reason to kill 4000 Americans, maim 30,000 Americans and waste $ 1 Trillion dollars.

Gee, for some reason, I find this far less appalling than the liberals getting 59,000 Americans killed in Vietnam and then cutting and running like cowards.

The Bush administration killed and wounded more Americans than Al-Qaeda ever did and they’re going to get away with it.

Who do you think killed those Americans in Iraq, moron? While being slaughtered wholesale, no less.

The UN Mandate you quoted was never proven to be in breach because the UN Arms Inspectors never found any WMD’s. In fact, Bush had them removed so he could start the war.

Read carefully dimwit:

That Iraq was in material breach of the ceasefire terms presented under the terms of Resolution 687. Iraq’s breaches related not only to Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), but also the known construction of prohibited types of missiles, the purchase and import of prohibited armaments

That was UN language.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Yes it is Midori.

Funny, I see greedy white power is the problem.

They destroy the economy every time they get power.

Why Americans will vote for destroying their money and getting socialism is beyond me.

I guess it is their ideology and hatred of the other side (liberals). Taking rush seriously.

Country first and all that crap.

By Midori

September 20, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Chris,

the very first weapon that Andy (AKA DNC/AJC Mgt) uses is an attack on your sexual orientation - as evidenced by his 4:19.

Not sure what it has to do with anything, but hey, that’s his weapon and he’s sticking to it.

Either he’s a homophobe or a closeted homosexual. Your guess is as good as mine.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Oh my, look at all the pinkos angry because thee economy is improving:

Hoping a Hail Mary Pass Connects - Joe Nocera, New York Times

Paulson Bailout Plan a Historic Swindle - William Greider, The Nation

By getalife September 20, 2008 4:10 PM Andy, Do you think they are using the “pinko” China model of socialism and capitalism is dead?

bwa

By Kyra

September 20, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

U.S. Congressman Nick Lampson, Democrat of Texas, fed up with FEMA’s slow response to victims of hurricane Ike, asked and received permission from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to bring 200 computers and 200 phones owned by the House of Representatives to Houston. As of yesterday more than 5000 people had used them to file for help.

OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

By Mike September 20, 2008 4:07 PM | Can anyone tell me one thing that Obama has accomplished in office?

Just trying to understand how Palin can be continually bashed when I can’t find anyone who can tell me one thing Obama has accomplished as an elected official.

CHRIS: SENATE RECORD

During Senator Obama’s first 8 eight months of elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

He introduced 233 bills regarding healthcare reform, 125 bills on poverty and public assistance, 112 bills on crime fighting, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included: (1)the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became LAW, (2)The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became LAW, (3)The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate, (4)The 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became LAW, (5)The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill that is in committee just to name a few.

In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Chris,

As you can see “AJC/DNC Management aka Andy” posts right wing lies and never admits he is wrong.

A racist, socialist, ideologue, partisan whacko that regulars here just ignore.

Just for fun, we may rile him up from time to time and watch him go off.

Like fireworks, it is entertaining.

By Midori

September 20, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Andy,

you’re an idiot.

Pure and simple.

try as you may, your “dots” never connect.

quite the opposite, you always come off sounding like a delusional, crazed mad man. Or is it mad woman?

By GodHatesTrash

September 20, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

In January 1933, the geriatric Paul von Hindenburg, to appease the rabble and trash of the Weimar Republic, selected for the number two person on his ticket the 44-year old Adolf Hitler.

The old coot died less than two years later, and the world reaped the whirlwind.

Hensley-McCain, another old coot, is trying to unleash the whirlwind on the American people with this disastrous choice as a running mate.

By Chris Salzmann

September 20, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

By Chris Salzmann September 20, 2008 3:00 PM |Hey AC-DC,

Something wrong with being gay, chrissy?

CHRIS: NO, I HAVE A GAY SISTER SO I DON’T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

YOU OBVIOUSLY DO. STILL IN THE CLOSET??? THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT.

SERIOUSLY!!!

By AmVet

September 20, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Jeebus, Jobus and Mary,

Some of the least lucid are STILL inanely trying to apologize for/explain BushCo’s botched invasion and occupation based on lies???

After all this time?

You gotta be kidding.

It would be a big yawn if not for the fact these craven scumbags got 4,168 Americans needlessly KIA.

It’s going to get the chickenhawk neo-cons thrashed in this election just like the last one.

Remember that humiliation, RepubliCons?

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Answer the question Andy.

Are we “pinko” socialists like China?

Or you could cut and run like w with obl.

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Chris Salzmann,

You must be a “greenie’ that loves windmills ‘cause you sure turn in the wind.

I said Sarah Palin is “not unfamiliar with Russia” and she isn’t. You tried to make her into an expert. Nope! Wrong turn. That is not what she said. Does being accurate bother you?

If you are NOT familiar with the moon then quit staring into space. It was there when you were born. You are not UNFAMILIAR with the moon. Palin is NOT UNFAMILIAR with Russia.She never said she was a diplomat or an expert.

Sarah Palin doesn’t “blink” when faced with lies. She’s a governor and knows about politics and the news media. Evidently you know their tactics.

I don’t listen to liberal commentators, except on Lehrer New Hour. They have all kinds. Keep repeating your version instead of the accurate facts. You don’t fool anybody. Such as……

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY MR. PALIN LEFT ANY ORGANIZATION. That is pure guessing on your part but you act like it is a fact. It is not and is pure fiction on your part.

Did you say you lived in Athens, Georgia? Don’t get paid by Democrats, maybe the Inquirer? HMMMMMMMMM Yes, that would make you pretty stupid. So that leaves liberal busybody without pay.

Sorry that Obama dumped Georgia and left you in the lurch. He’s a good cut’n’runner in many things.

By Georgia Boy

September 20, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Since Reagan, the Republicans have argued that governmental regulations prevented the nation from enjoying the bounties that flowed from a pure “free market”. The recent meltdown in the financial markets indicate just how naďve and out of touch the conservative philosophy really is. The current – and likely to change- estimate of the scope of the bailout is $700 billion. Moreover, the auto industry also wants to be rescued from its incompetence, so expect another $50 billion in bailout requests.

Over the years, conservative politicians and bloggers have periodically assailed the “entitlement culture” as the term relates to welfare policy, yet they are strangely silent when the taxpayer is asked to pay for the reckless excesses of the corporate elite;No demands for accountability ; no sense of outrage at the stupidity of the excesses . No calls to eliminate the root causes of the current crisis.

McCain is hopeless. At the peak of the financial meltdown, McCain declared that the fundamentals of the economy were despite the growing size of the bailout and the current levels of unemployment. Throughout his Senate career he has promoted de-regulation, but now he wants everyone to think that he is a tough minded regulator.

As a side bar comment, those conservative bloggers who think liberals are afraid of Gov, Palin are clearly delusional. I would formally like to thank the Republicans for nominating a VP candidate who has been discredited so easily. According to a recent poll, 62% of the nation has serious concerns regarding Palin’s qualifications to hold high office.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it just like a lib to accuse somebody of lying and then to prove their claim, unleash a torrent of………………………….lies?

Her public image as a moderate politician who respects dissent is also — well — largely apocryphal. Early in her tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Palin showed she knew how to fight dirty and vanquish her opponents. She succeeded, eventually, in running off the popular Wasilla librarian, who didn’t take kindly to the mayor’s inquiries about banning books. Palin fired the city attorney when he issued a stop-work order on a home being built by one of her campaign supporters, according to The New York Times.

As governor, Palin stepped up her game, cloaking her actions in secrecy, using private e-mail accounts to shield her official communications from public records and putting a premium on loyalty among her staff. And she has used every Cheney-like maneuver at her disposal to try to quash an official investigation into charges that she improperly fired Walt Monegan, former state Commissioner of Public Safety, because he refused to do Palin’s bidding — firing her ex-brother-in-law, state trooper Mike Wooten, who had been through a nasty divorce from Palin’s sister.-Queen Pinko, Urinal/PMS.

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Why can’t I post

DUSTY and reply to somebody with no other info with it?

From where is this Salzmann posting?

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

“An internal Alaska government document obtained by ABC News shows that Sarah Palin’s staff authorized a trip by then-commissioner Walt Monegan to Washington, DC — the trip she has since claimed was unapproved and the basis for his firing.”

She is a liar Andy and can see why you like her. She lies about everything. Just like w.

Why didn’t you answer my question?

By TeaTime

September 20, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

This Chicago Cubs/Lou Piniella story is solid gold, and comes at an opportune time going into October. A satisfying distraction from wallstreet, the campaign, and the pinched loaves who comment here.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Take off your tin foil hat kook.

You are losing it.

Try drinking some of that wine.

By Jeneen

September 20, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

From AP:

John McCain and Sarah Palin criticized Democrat Barack Obama over the amount of money he has requested for his home state of Illinois, even though Alaska under Palin’s leadership has asked Washington for 10 times more money per citizen for pet projects.

Palin/McCain are the lowest of the low.

By vir

September 20, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

The Fox News interview shows that Palin has the needed international awareness to be VP and even president. That scene will always need a fresh look anyway in order to avoid the mistakes made by Kennedy and Johnson in Vietnam, Democrats with excellent foreign policy credentials.

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

You are supposedly a veteran. Why did you go and fight and take a chance at losing your life for your country?? NOW you want to cry about it? FREEDOM IS STILL WORTH THE FIGHT. Quit dumping on our military..

GeorgiaBoy,

Keep wishing. YOU ARE AFRAID of Sarah Palin or you would not keep running (away) with your mouth. You and Bookman and Chris the Incorrect…talking and talking and wishing and wishing…always about Sarah Palin.

You remind me of a moose in line with Sarah’s rifle. Acting big but running!!

By getalife

September 20, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Take it to the sports blog PF.

Or woman’s blog.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Biden’s miserly charitable giving jibes fairly exactly with the findings in Arthur Brooks’ Who Really Cares? which reports that “those who say they strongly oppose redistribution by government to remedy income inequality give over 10 times more to charity than those who strongly support government intervention, with a difference of $1,627 annually versus $140 to all causes,” a gap not explained away by discrepancies in religious giving. Last year, the tax returns of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) show charitable giving of 27.3 percent to 28.6 percent of his income.

Libs are all talk, aren’t they?

Blah, blah, blah.

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You know all about drinking

And smoking pot

And running!!

I’m not interested.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

By Chris Salzmann September 20, 2008 4:33 PM YOU OBVIOUSLY DO. STILL IN THE CLOSET??? THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. SERIOUSLY!!!

Chrissy: I know this is above your “pay grade” but either you are calling me gay (AC-DC) because you despise me or, in your on words, you must respect me.

So tell us, sweetheart, which one is it?

By TW

September 20, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

So, the McCain camp arranges for Sister Sarah to meet with Karzai and this is supposed to mean what?

So, if I can somehow get to have lunch with Peyton Manning that means I should be playing for the Colts?

Stupid….God they think we are so stupid.

By TeaTime

September 20, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Well! I never……

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

By getalife September 20, 2008 4:53 PM Why didn’t you answer my question?

al-Gitmo: Do you honestly believe the United States will never get their money back?

“An internal Alaska government document obtained by ABC News shows that Sarah Palin’s staff authorized a trip by then-commissioner Walt Monegan to Washington, DC — the trip she has since claimed was unapproved and the basis for his firing.” She is a liar Andy and can see why you like her. She lies about everything. Just like w.

I got some info for you community organizers and short term Senate dwellers, as part of the responsibilities of the Governor of Alaska, Sarah’s office has to sign off on all state expenditures.

I seriously doubt if the expense report said “I am going over your head, honey.”

Bozos.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

crusty,

Me neither.

PF,

That might be the problem.

Andy,

With w as CEO, that is a stupid question.

By vir

September 20, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

To getalife,

In the Fox News interview, the commisioner was not fired. He was reassigned and he refused. The governor had to make decisions where best her staff could serve the people of Alaska. That’s executive experience that neither Biden nor Obama has.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

dir,

fixed noise?

Duh.

By CoffeeChat

September 20, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

AJCmgt: I’m having trouble reading the italics font in all of your comments, so I have to repectfully request that you discontinue using them, or I’ll never be able to read what you’re writing. I’m sure it’s got merit, kind sir, and well, I wish I could reply.

Best wishes. You’re a great American. Too bad you feel you have to put style over substance. I read recently where Osama bin Laden is a Painintheass when he films his videos, because he too, is always wanting another take, or he wants to direct, with one problem or another, he’s a total control freak, and well, I couldn’t help but see a parallel between that jackass and you, but I wouldn’t presume to tell you your business.

Pinch on, my fine friend, pinch on.

Loafer.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Lets try using a little common sense vir instead of Hannity bs.

First, she said she would cooperate.

Then they lawyered up and refused to testify under subpoenas.

Do you actually think they have nothing to hide vir?

Have you paid attention to the confirmed lies she has spewed?

Stupid, silly lies and has no credibility like fixed noise.

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

TW,5:04

Sarah Palin is not your sister but she is going to be your Vice-President. Get used to it.

She’s a smart woman being introduced to world leaders as she should be. Karzia will like her. They are both strong leaders in tough environments. Go Sarah!!!

By TW

September 20, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

For the first time since the GOP ‘convention,’ the probability in Vegas that Obama will win has again broken 60%.

Kind of like a poll where people have to substantiate their beliefs with something other than wind.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

The dimocrats are already trying to lard up the Treasury bill, do tell us about “China” again, al-Gitmo:

But with the Banking Committee as the nexus of power for emergency legislation being written this weekend, Democrats are mulling over just how much they can demand in the economic package without looking like they’re exploiting the situation.

“We’ve got to deal with the foreclosure issue,” Dodd said. “This plan must include that.”

The same people that blackmailed the mortgage industry into giving loans to deadbeats and halfwits, causing financial ruin when these losers couldn’t make their payments, are now telling the losers to go bankrupt.

For free.

By AmVet

September 20, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Dusty, you are supposedly an American.

Try not to be such a useless one.

Or better yet defect to Iran, Nazi…

By Dusty

September 20, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Ah, AMVet, ever the CHARMER!!@5:53

Is that the best you can do? Defect? Iran? Nazi?

Pretty stale, fellow. Kinda limp.

Try vitamins. That might help.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Look at the Washington Post just dripping with jealousy:

It was the first time Palin had answered questions from voters since McCain chose her for the ticket, and the campaign could not have found a safer environment.

Boisterous, blissful Republicans cheered her every utterance. Many questions seemed designed more to allow her to answer critics than to elicit her views. One woman asked about criticism that “you can’t be a woman and the vice president” and added quickly, “Which, of course, you can.”

Sounds alot like thee Oblahma kkkampaign, don’t it?

Except she wasn’t reading from thee teleprompter like your idiot has to.

Cry babies.

By JudiNV

September 20, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

The Corporal:

Liberals, Independents and many Republicans are afraid of her for this reason: she is completely unqualified and hasn’t the intellect or skills to run this country. It’s like “Gidget goes to Washington”.

By cal

September 20, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

The democrats are trying to railroad Sarah Palin because they are terrified of her. Just as the bloggers are since they love to make up lies about her. Since the vettting process has been unable to find anything on her, they just have to make up things about her. Just like a liberal.

By hillbilly ragger

September 20, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

Boy, there sure are a lot of conservatives with nothing to do on a beautiful day.

Funny, really.

By the way, for those knuckle-draggers who are counting on the “Bradley effect” to escort the old, mentally and physically feeble white guy to the White House, eat this.

“Of course some people are racist, and will vote against Obama because he is black — I have met some of them. But the Bradley Effect concerns something different — whether such people are likely to lie about their behavior to pollsters. There is simply no empirical evidence that the Bradley Effect exists any longer. It did not exist in the primaries, and it did not exist in the 2006 Senate race in Tennessee, which was perhaps the most racially-tinged contest of the past decade (in fact, Harold Ford slightly outperformed the late polls).”

By cal

September 20, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Well at least the racist people are liberals. Any republican is going to vote the republican ticket. The democrats that aren’t voting for Obama are the racist ones.

By hillbilly ragger

September 20, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Luckotroool gave us:

“Look at the Washington Post just dripping with jealousy:”

Oh, do tell us about jealousy, Luckotrool. How jealous are you that there are people out there happening upon this blog—perhaps hundreds of them!—laughing at the pathetic little man who has nothing to do on a beautiful day but play with himself on the Intertoobz.

We all know you’re a right-wing loser, who has no friends and no life. It would be sad if it weren’t so damn funny.

Well, I’m off. Y’see, I have a life.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

By hillbilly ragger September 20, 2008 6:34 PM There is simply no empirical evidence that the Bradley Effect exists any longer.

The libs are getting desperate, are they not?

Imagine if you will, having some angry pinko asking “are you voting for Oblahma or are you a racist?”

Now here are your choices; you say of course not he hates America which will then cause the lib to scream at you in vein popping rage, or you could say yes and just get on with your life.

Hmmmmmmmm.

And then while safely in thee voting booth, you can get slam even with those trollops and tossers that had the nerve to call you and your fellow countrymen racists.

McCain-Palin 08.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Andy,

They will probably throw us another bone with another few hundred dollars check.

They will rush it through so it will get off the corporate media.

They don’t want the ignorant masses to know that lobbyists killed the oversight on both sides and we are now a socialist state.

It amazes me that you and crusty continue to cheer this on.

What’s up with that?

I thought ya’ll hated Obama for socialist reasons?

Do tell.

By lisa11042008

September 20, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

obama has accomplished nothing. zero accomplishments. zero leadership experience. questionable judgement with scary friends that are hate mongers and radical domestic terrorists. and zero accomplishments.

By ByteMe

September 20, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

JudiNV, you just insulted Gidget. She’s p** now. Thanks.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

By hillbilly ragger September 20, 2008 6:50 PM “Look at the Washington Post just dripping with jealousy:” Oh, do tell us about jealousy, Luckotrool. How jealous are you that there are people out there happening upon this blog—perhaps hundreds of them!—laughing at the pathetic little man who has nothing to do on a beautiful day but play with himself on the Intertoobz. We all know you’re a right-wing loser, who has no friends and no life. It would be sad if it weren’t so damn funny. Well, I’m off. Y’see, I have a life.

Hey, rag, one of my friends just called you an angry little pinko.

After he stopped laughing at your whiny little as-s, that is.

By ByteMe

September 20, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Andy claims he has friends now.

Personally, I think it’s really just his hand.

BWA!

By Midori

September 20, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

why must wingnuts always play the “fear” card?

all these comments about people supposedly being “scared” of Palin.

yet you see no such comments from the left.

FEAR

Is that all you idiots have?

By Midori

September 20, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

*”Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that’s with the energy independence that I’ve been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy.” * —Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent, Sept. 11, 2008

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

Come on al-Gitmo, these are fundamentals we’re talking here.

Bush and Cheney are evil corporate hacks, right, which means they want to protect the businesses that provide with our earnings, our retirement packages, our health insurance, our ability to pay income taxes, you know, all the things that make America happen.

Oblahma is a rabble rouser who wants to kill business and like some kleptomaniac Robin Hood, take their money and give $200 dollar checks to everybody for what, so we can snort it up our noses while laid up in the housing projects?

WTF man?

By Midori

September 20, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

yabba dabba DOO!!

By jefflz

September 20, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

McCain has wrapped himself in a veil of lies. The McCain of 2000 that many admired is deceased and reborn is the McCain of 2008 who is a puppet of the Rove team of dirty politics. They picked Palin for him and made a mockery of this election. McCain is struggling to appear on the side of the people. His record demonstrates that he is not. He supports permanent tax cuts for the extremely wealthy, tax cuts for major corporations even when they ship jobs overseas, and further tax payer support of Big Oil in a era of record oil profits. His latter-day populism is as cynical as his choice of Sarah Palin who can’t see Wall St. from Alaska. McCain is running hard from his 26 year legislative legacy, his anti-oversight financial guru, Phil Gramm and from his total acceptance of Bushonomics over the past eight years. His message changes daily. How can anyone have confidence in his ad hoc policies? The vast majority of criticism of Obama is mindless hate speech. These are the people from whom McCain draws much fervent support. Doesn’t that say it all?

By jefflz

September 20, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

McCain has wrapped himself in a veil of lies. The McCain of 2000 that many admired is deceased and reborn is the McCain of 2008 who is a puppet of the Rove team of dirty politics. They picked Palin for him and made a mockery of this election. McCain is struggling to appear on the side of the people. His record demonstrates that he is not. He supports permanent tax cuts for the extremely wealthy, tax cuts for major corporations even when they ship jobs overseas, and further tax payer support of Big Oil in a era of record oil profits. His latter-day populism is as cynical as his choice of Sarah Palin who can’t see Wall St. from Alaska. McCain is running hard from his 26 year legislative legacy, his anti-oversight financial guru, Phil Gramm and from his total acceptance of Bushonomics over the past eight years. His message changes daily. How can anyone have confidence in his ad hoc policies?

By getalife

September 20, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I believe they are evil corporate hacks.

We agree.

Except you are for socialism and I am not.

Chavez is laughing at you.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

“Wall Street got drunk…It got drunk and now it’s got a hangover.” — Dubya, in July
“The administration was serving the drinks. And Bush was bartender in chief.” — Naomi Klein

And now we pay for the hangover.

By Randolph

September 20, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

It is hard to believe that McCain thought so little of this country that he would choose Palin..There are plenty of women out there in politics that had the intelligence and the foreign experience to bring to the table without having to spend weeks on show and tell tecniques before actually being able to speak alone..So far she has had two fluff interviews…Every person I know is scared to death of her and her radical right wing views…It seems that every word she utters about herself has been embellished. No one knows the real truth about her as the media will not properly vet her…She will be no more help to the economical crisis than she is regarding the war..She can see Russia from her house..Wow!!!.We need to know more of her husband’s invlolvement also…From what we hear his usual involvement will not be allowed in the WH.Come on media!!!

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

A pilot flew a lone message of dissent against Barack Obama’s tax plans as a sea of people turned out here to support the Democratic presidential hopeful at an open-air rally Saturday.

The pilot’s small plane trailed a banner reading: “RAISING TAXES IS NOT PATRIOTIC.”

The sign was the only discordant note as the huge crowd gave a rapturous welcome to Obama in a park in Jacksonville, northeastern Florida.

When you read all of the pap and as-s kissing inserted into thee above story, you immediately wonder, and sure enough:

Barack Obama Jacksonville rally

A picture is worth a million words, ain’t it?

Now project this on to anything you hear about Oblahma from the pinko media, his accomplishments, his “policies,” his “adoring” crowds.

It is all a lie.

bwa

He’s the FAKE Temple Pilot, indeed.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Dwell upon this.

Justice Hillary Clinton

Bwa.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: Is that what Oblahma is offering the White Power now for them to cease and desist with the undermining of his kkkampaign?

Sounds to me a lot like that we’ll get the US out of Iraq in 2006! to me.

We all know how that story ended.

I’d stick with 2012, if I we’re you.

By Midori

September 20, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

i had to follow that link Andy posted.

reading comments (which, by the way, are very favorable to Obama), I came upon this:

Vote Obama Says: September 20th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

wow what a speech….

I was a republican for years until this guy showed up..

again, I’m not quite sure what Andy’s “point” is.

Other than posting crap just for the sake of it.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

i r o diM: The pictures of the hundred or so people gathered where the pinko media said there were tens of thousands?

This guy’s kkkampaign is dying.

You toadies are thee life support system.

2 breaths, 10 compressions. Check thee pulse.

Repeat.

By getalife

September 20, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

Nice crowd

2012 and Palin might be ready then Andy.

“McCain Camp argues that a loose debate format could leave Sarah Palin vulnerable as a relatively inexperienced debater:

McCain advisers said they were only somewhat concerned about Ms. Palin’s debating skills compared with those of Mr. Biden, who has served six terms in the Senate, or about his chances of tripping her up. Instead, they say, they wanted Ms. Palin to have opportunities to present Mr. McCain’s positions, rather than spending time talking about her own experience or playing defense…”

Weak and lame.

By WAAAAAAAAALibs

September 20, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

You ask SP what her foreign policy experience is? (Like libs—for terrorist rights, Russian supremacy, losing the war against terrorist scumbags wherever they are, et al—are concerned about national security) She had a pretty good opportunity coming up on Monday to speak out against the subhuman piece of filth Ahbadabbadoo up until Hillary started whining about “politicizing” it, you d******* should talk!

Another loser article from the Urinal Constipation………………

By getalife

September 20, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

Clean up on aisle 8:54.

Head exploded.

Bring a mop.

By Midori

September 20, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

lol, Getalife,

better include 8:49 with that.

they got NOTHING!!!

other than a lying fossil and his moose shooting lying sidekick!!!

bwahahahaha

By Andrew

September 20, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

The GOP has devolved into a party of haters. They hate liberals, democrats, muslims, foreigners, immigrants, the educated and anyone else they can think of that won’t get behind them.

Every speech you hear from a GOP candidate is usually nothing more than an exercise in identifying the next enemy for whatever reason is convenient at the time.

I’m really, really, getting tired of listening to the GOP spew hate over and over again, not to mention the extreme hypocrisy in their words and actions.

The GOP really needs to rename their party the NAZI party. They follow the same philosophies in politics as laid down by Goebbels, right down to the sequence of talking points that Faux News and the politicians use to try and discredit their opponents.

Open a history book and see for yourself. Go check out what Goebbels told the interrogators in Nuremberg while waiting for his trial on how to mobilize a population to embrace wars that benefit others and to start hating portions of their own citizenry. You’ll be surprised.

By Midori

September 20, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

hey Andy,

I’ll be back in 15 minutes or so to see what other unrelated, stupid, childish crap you can come up with to corroborate your “case”.

and I’m not talking about a case of vodka, either

By Angelino

September 20, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Hey, “The Corporal…..no one’s afraid of that ignorant idiot.

By Midori

September 20, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

[McCain Camp argues that a loose debate format could leave Sarah Palin vulnerable as a relatively inexperienced debater}(http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/20/mccain-camp-argues-that-a-loose-debate-format-could-leave-sarah-palin-vulnerable-as-a-relatively-inexperienced-debater/#comments)

OK, what gives?

The Obama and McCain campaigns have agreed to an unusual free-flowing format for the three televised presidential debates, which begin on Friday, but the McCain camp fought for and won a much more structured approach for the questioning at the vice-presidential debate, advisers to both campaigns said Saturday. At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates. McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.

Don’t you think McCain should have thought of that before he picked her for his VP? Once again the American people are cheated out of an honest discussion of the issues.

McCain advisers said they were only somewhat concerned about Ms. Palin’s debating skills compared with those of Mr. Biden, who has served six terms in the Senate, or about his chances of tripping her up. Instead, they say, they wanted Ms. Palin to have opportunities to present Mr. McCain’s positions, rather than spending time talking about her own experience or playing defense…read on

I don’t know the rules of debates, but wouldn’t it be a smart move to force a more in depth debate between Biden and Palin? I mean, she’s the most qualified Republican for the VP job and shouldn’t have any problems at all. Right?

By Stevens

September 20, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

I guess it’s the 1980s all over again. Does any of this remind anyone of the S&L (savings and loans) scandal? McCain supported Charles Keating and the very things that allowed the S&L’s to steal from the American people.

Now we have banks and other financial institutions failing and this was done with McCain and George W. Bush’s blessings. What about some help for us — the taxpaying fools who get to clean this up? The ones who work 40-plus hours a week and see more and more of our income worth nothing? Does anyone truly believe McCain is going to help us?

Albert E. Einstein said only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. I guess if Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin get in to office, I would say Mr. Einstein’s theory is correct.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 20, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

You know what libs?

Friday fast approaches.

That’s when your relatively inexperienced debater goes up against Jaws.

Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh.

Hahahaha.

Game, set, match.

By Jim S

September 20, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

If you would agree that a person empowered and required to administer the laws and affairs of a nation is the definition of executive, I fail to see how PTA or for that matter 21 months of governing a sparsely populated state in the frozen waste of Alaska qualifies Gov. Sarah Palin.

Yet she claims more experience than the one-term U.S. senator who seeks our votes. At least he is articulate, intelligent, without scandal and has impressed most with his rhetoric when challenged by detractors who question his choice of a place to worship, his ethnicity and the other ridiculous examples that have been introduced.

We would do well to consider that the consensus choice for the all-time best president is Lincoln and he was the least experienced, and the most experienced, James Buchanan, is neck and neck with George W. as the worst.

Mr. Obama has allied himself with a very experienced No. 2 man and seems to offer more hope and has given specifics as to how he plans to proceed. We must remember we were saddled with five years of a do-nothing Republican majority Congress and for eight with their president, and all agree that change must come.

I just haven’t heard specifics from Mr. McCain, only sweeping scare tactics of threatened tax increases. Does he not see the deficit that George Bush and Dick Cheney have gotten us into? We can’t just keep printing money — our dollar is in terrible shape on the world exchange, as is.

By Deborah Harry

September 21, 2008 3:56 AM | Link to this

Self-hating women won’t support Sarah because she is an actual woman who is not a VICTIM.

God invented feminism so ugly hags would feel they play a part in the world.

By Bud Wiser

September 21, 2008 6:57 AM | Link to this

“*By AmVet September 20, 2008 2:42 PM We as a nation have just suffered through eight years of the most awful president in American history.

Remember he ran as an outsider with no foreign policy experience?*”

And look at how badly he shiite the bed.

Those last two sentences pretty much sum up Barack Hussein Obama. You idiots on the left can trash your own token and don’t even realize it!

HAHAHAHAHA

Obama/Biden ‘08 - We are the candidates of the stupid, by the stupid, and for the stupid!

By AJC/DNC Management

September 21, 2008 7:06 AM | Link to this

The dimocrats just keep on with it:

Mr. Frank said Democrats might seek to revive a proposal that would give bankruptcy judges the authority to modify the terms of primary mortgages, a proposal strongly opposed by the financial industry.-Urinal/Jihad

So how did we get here in the first place, gee, was it dimocrats in Congress and the White House “modifying the terms of primary mortgages” by forcing the lending institutions to give mortgages to deadbeats?

And now the libs in Congress want to lower the interest rates and payment terms for the deadbeats?

Is this the sound of another crash coming in 5 or so years when Congress has the deadbeat paying zero dollars every month while keeping the bank’s house?

Anybody else wonder why there are no investigations into CEO wrongdoing? Wanna bet that the very first question asked of the CEO, like, let’s say “how much do you make,” was answered by the CEO shaking the 1993 “banking reform and community development act” in the face of the inquisitor, which in turn caused the inquisitor to write the CEO a check for $1,000,000,000,000?

This bailout is nothing but hush money, with the very real caveat of economic ruin prevention, but a cover up none the less.

A cover up for all of the ruinous democrat meddling in the mortgage lending business.

You can be an idiot and babble about “CEO pay,” just like idiots natter on about “big oil,” but you will only be off about 990 billion dollars from the real problem.

democrats.

As usual.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 21, 2008 7:11 AM | Link to this

A suicide truck bomb devastated the fabled Marriott Hotel in Pakistan’s capital Saturday, leaving at least 40 dead and more than 250 wounded. Authorities feared dozens more would be found dead inside the burning building.-Urinal/Jihad

Doesn’t the whining about US cross border attacks on scumbag terrorists seem a little trifling this morning, well of course not, thee Urinal/Jihad sees this atrocity as an opportunity:

President Asif Ali Zardari, while vowing to root out terrorists, used his first address to parliament to issue a warning on Saturday about U.S. attacks against extremists on Pakistani soil.-Urinal/Jihad

Sick.

By Bud Wiser

September 21, 2008 7:15 AM | Link to this

*On September 18, 2008 John McCain’s Campaign, published a campaign ad that quoted the Washington Post’s claim that Franklin Raines advises Barack Obama on economic matters. The ad also notes that “Raines made millions and then left Fannie Mae while it was under investigation for accounting irregularities”. Both Raines and the Obama Campaign claim that Raines is not an Obama advisor and has never advised Senator Obama. When the claim that Reines was an Obama advisor appeared multiple times in the Washington Post (first July 16th) months before the McCain ad, the Obama campaign didn’t seek a correction however they did seek a correction from the Post after the ad appeared. *

That pretty much sews up the fact that Obama is a liar. You tools on the left keep hooting for your token.

The rest of us are hooting and laughing at you. Ha ha ha ha ha

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid

By GOPs got to go

September 21, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Corporal,

To say that feminists do not like Palin because she is attractive is the MOST sexist thing I have heard today. Why do men think ALL woman are catty and petty?

Her stance on the ISSUES is what I do not like about Palin. She is Pro-gun, Anti-choice, and Anti-science. And that is why I do not like her. End of the story.

I also think people in the White House need to be better educated. We have already had 8 years of McDumb, any years with McHosehead will be too many.

By CoffeeChat

September 21, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

Palin/McCain 08: If politics make for strange bedfellows, then America just got short-sheeted.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 21, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

The reality is that success in Iraq has confounded the political left, which placed a huge political bet on our defeat. Senator Reid famously declared the war lost in April 2007. Joe Biden introduced a resolution opposing the surge. And Hillary Clinton said the reports of progress in Iraq required “a willing suspension of disbelief.” In the Democratic narrative, our troops in Iraq are victims of a lost cause, not heroes. They’re allowed to get maimed and killed, but not to succeed.

Earlier this week, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin teamed up to block a vote on a bipartisan resolution “recognizing the strategic success of the troop surge in Iraq” and thanking our men and women in uniform for their efforts.

I thought the liberals “supported” the troops?

By Tea Time

September 21, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By Tea Time

September 21, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By Tea Time

September 21, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By Catscan's deliverance

September 21, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Iraq has been put so far on the back burner that it seems odd to even mention it anymore.

Iraq? Is that still even a war, man? I thought we pulled out our troops and sent them to rehab, man. no, wait, that was nam. Dammit, I get all my police actions mixed up.

Obama 08: What’s left of America is what’s right with America, (and it’s taking over).

By Catscan's deliverance

September 21, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

The Forgotton Sermon

By the Forgotten Messiah

Today’s sermon is about revenge: Don’t. Forgive instead. B quick 2 4give.

B quick 2 4give. You don’t know all the facts. You could be the wronging party.

Look at the AIG bailout. Congress must forgive the corrupt, the bankrupt, and the abruptly inept. They must look past the Liar Loans, the Ninja Loans, the Pirate Loans, and the people at every level of the transaction who committed and then fell victim to their own fraud, perjury, deception, and greed. Confess, America, and for your penance, you must say “no” to two credit card offers, three no- money-down auto leases, and then drive past 5 ATM machines without withdrawing any cash. Now go and sign no more.

B quick 2 4give. History is full of unnecessary revenge.

Look at the Garden of Eden. The snake could simply have been a grocer trying to market the apple. He going to say whatever it takes to sell that apple. “Oh, you’ll be a genius if you eat this apple, you wont die, au contraire mon frere, an apple a day keeps the doctor away. It’s good for you.” Forgive the snake, even if he offered terms or discount coupons to Eve.

The snake could also have been a student who was trying to impress his teacher, Eve. Eve was the first snake whisperer, perhaps.

Forgive the snake, even though Christian lore has the Virgin Mary crushing the snake with her heel at some point in the ecclesiastical fulfillments of supernatural prophesy… I guess she couldn’t forgive the snake. Perhaps Mary was the first dog(matic) whisperer. (sorry).

No, my brethren, in a word, B quick 2 4give.

By getalife

September 21, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Pass the bailout bill and work out the details later Paulson spews.

Once again, they are using a disaster for a power grab and no oversight for the Treasury.

Man these people are just greedy and evil.

A depression where the wealthy loses no money and nobody is held accountable.

Incredibile.

This is not end well.

By AmVet

September 21, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Butt Wiper,

IMHO, Obama has no business int he White House.

The difference between rational independents and amazingly dense neo-lithic card carrying members of the lunatic fringe like yourself, is you could never possibly admit that the neo-con moron you voted for twice did not either.

That would take some honesty. And nads…

By AJC/DNC Management

September 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

The liberals see a chance to suck blood in every situation:

There is one way to maintain that progress without asking OPEC to keep prices high, and that’s for the government to set a floor on the price of oil with a variable tax. If the price rose back above, say, $110 per barrel, the feds would collect no tax; as it dropped below that, the government could levy sufficient tax to keep the price at the equivalent of $110 per barrel, to rise by a predictable percentage every year. Investors in wind and solar power would have certainty.-Washington Post

Insane in the membrane.

We need to send these pinkos back to the institutions they escaped from.

By getalife

September 21, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

“House Republican staffers met with roughly 15 lobbyists Friday afternoon, whose message to lawmakers was clear: Don’t load the legislation up with provisions not directly related to the crisis, or regulatory measures the industry has long opposed. “We’re opposed to adding provisions that will affect [or] undermine the deal substantively,” said Scott Talbott, senior vice president of government affairs at the Financial Services Roundtable, whose members include the nation’s largest banks, securities firms and insurers.

A deal killer for the group: a proposal that would grant bankruptcy judges new powers to lower the principal, interest rate or both on a mortgage as part of a bankruptcy proceeding.”

I am sure the dems will give the lobbyists want they want too .

Americans will continue to lose when lobbyists continue to run Washigton.

Too bad Americans will not stand up and demand to ban lobbyists and will accept businesss as usual.

Oh well.

By Bud Wiser

September 21, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

AmVeterinarian, yeah I voted for Bush twice, and would do it fifty times over even in retrospect, seeing the kind of moronic a*******es Al Gore and John Kerry have morphed into. It is the completely ignorant a*******es like yourself that have followed and worshiped those idiots, and now have that funny tingle run up your leg when your token makes any public appearance. You are no more rational than you claim to be, nor independent as you want others to believe, therefore you are the perfect liar and eligible now for your Democrat promised handout.

Why don’t you just go ahead and buy your little rainbow ribbon for your little Toyota, and come out? It’s obvious to everyone here that you are some Obamaniac, so get on your knees in front of him, little boy, and maybe he’ll look your way.

And, why not wait until you grow a brain and gather some small smidgen of intelligence before you try to tangle with me again, because it appears that in the war of words, you are an unarmed idiot.

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it so easy to be stupid

By Catscan's deliverance

September 21, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

The Forgotton Sermon

By the Forgotten Messiah

Today’s sermon is about revenge: Don’t. Forgive instead. B quick 2 4give.

B quick 2 4give. You don’t know all the facts. You could be the wronging party.

Look at the AIG bailout. Congress must forgive the corrupt, the bankrupt, and the abruptly inept. They must look past the Liar Loans, the Ninja Loans, the Pirate Loans, and the people at every level of the transaction who committed and then fell victim to their own fraud, perjury, deception, and greed. Confess, America, and for your penance, you must say “no” to two credit card offers, three no- money-down auto leases, and then drive past 5 ATM machines without withdrawing any cash. Now go and sign no more.

B quick 2 4give. History is full of unnecessary revenge.

Look at the Garden of Eden. The snake could simply have been a grocer trying to market the apple. He’s going to say whatever it takes to sell that apple. “Oh, you’ll be a genius if you eat this apple, you wont die, au contraire mon frere, an apple a day keeps the doctor away. It’s good for you.” Forgive the snake, even if he offered terms or discount coupons to Eve.

The snake could also have been a student who was trying to impress his teacher, Eve. Eve was the first snake whisperer, perhaps.

Forgive the snake, even though Christian lore has the Virgin Mary crushing the snake with her heel at some point in the ecclesiastical fulfillments of supernatural prophesy… I guess she couldn’t forgive the snake. Perhaps Mary was the first dog(ma) whisperer. (sorry).

No, my brethren, in a word, B quick 2 4give.

By Silly Me

September 21, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

The Pope: a Dogma Whisperer?

Editorial stolen from the New York Times and Greenspan’s book: The banning of short selling is dangerous. The only path to clear valuation of securities is short selling, (Greenspan), and without it, then an artificial bubble could occur.(NY times)

The underlying worthlessness (sic) of the bad debt instraments has not changed with this bailout.

Determining the true asset value of each block of bad debt is a pipe dream.

More corruption, more bad money after bad money is like giving a patient a sugar pill instead of the antidote. (sic)

The history of our economy has been a cycle of boom and bust, boom and bust. With this bailout desperation, a natural cycle becomes an unpredictable loose cannon which may have been set into destruct mode by innopportune tampering by corrupt representatives of the frightened gentry and the dumb-founded smart-monied.(sic)

This is more a conspiracy to hoard the wealth in this new war of the haves and the half-wits.

We only have to add BlackWater Mercenaries and we are in H…E…Double Hockey sticks, my friends.

The Death of Reaganism. Oh, did Reagan die? The Death of Conservatism. So what? The death of the America Dream? That died with abraham, martin and john.

But the death of the American Experiment at the hands of foreign owned defense contractors, (the military industrial complex that Ike warned us about), now THAT deserves mourning.

boo hoo

BlackWater Mercenaries will shoot us down in the streets like dogs, you will see that happen, for I have climbed the corporate ladder and I have looked over the glass ceiling, and I have SEEN the market’s top. I’ve SEEN the intrinsic value of our greed, and it has a tail and horns and prances around drunk in a crotchless red body stocking and a cape…..(hic)

By AmVet

September 21, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

getalife, nice win for your Bayou Bengals!

I suspect both teams will manhandle the unimpressive Bulldogs…

Alas, Dickhead Cheney can’t destroy the evidence:

Cheney must keep records, judge orders

Is it any wonder that the majority of the rational people in this country have less faith in the integrity of the men in the White House than at any other time in our entire history, excluding PERHAPS Nixon/Agnew?

One of the seemingly innumerable fatal character flaws in King George II and Dick Head Cheney…

By getalife

September 21, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Amvet,

That game is always stressful.

Alabama looks good.

As far as cheney, he is probably saying too late and GFY.

By Midori

September 21, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

That would take some honesty. And nads…

Well, AM Vet, his profanity filled angry outburst shows he has neither.

Some people are just determined to be ignorant, no matter how many chances life gives them to overcome it.

By Silly Me

September 21, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Obama/Biden 08: Even if politics does make strange bedfellows, it’s kinda nice to have a chocolate on the pillows.

By AmVet

September 21, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

getalife, I still see NO ONE, other than the obvious - Southern Cal - in their class.

Midori, Wiper is just the latest in a LONG series of cons who have personally attacked me with NO provocation or reason.

His mistake is common among them. But like ALL of the others, he’s gonna learn a valuable lesson (or not) by the end of the day.

He has screwed with the wrong cowboy this time.

And IMHO you are correct, willful, intransigent ignorance cannot be fixed…

By getalife

September 21, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Here is Krugman’s take

By Karl

September 21, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Anyone not insulted by the McCain campaign deserves four more years of George W Bush.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 21, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Uh-oh, the call goes out:

“We will rid the country of this cancer,” Zardari, who took office less than two weeks ago, said in a message to the nation after the attack. “I appeal to all democratic forces to come and save Pakistan.”

Step aside, junior, we’ll take it from here.

Zardari left Sunday for New York, where he will meet Bush for the first time since taking over the presidency. Bush, along with leaders from around the world, denounced the latest bombing.

“This attack is a reminder of the ongoing threat faced by Pakistan, the United States and all those who stand against violent extremism,” he said.

My oh my, that sure doesn’t sound like a warning to stop bombing al Qaeda to me.

Zawaheri’s head on a plate, uh, late October?

Buh bye al Qaeda.

By Wesley Brown

September 21, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Just what does it take for you Republicans to come out of your trance? Crisis after crisis, fact after fact, and we are near financial meltdown and you still support neocon policies!

You can still be a Republican and disagree with incompetence and hypocrisy you know. Like a child you call me names, when all the facts point to your party’s leaders letting all of us down.

When Clinton lied under oath, it was all about the “rule of law”, but let your party break law after law and destroy our finances and you cannot at least admit that!

Just shave your heads and chant at the airports because you are no longer thinking adults. You are a cult where nothing matters except blind faith. No matter the facts, no matter the destruction, no matter the hypocrisy.

Demand more from your party you idiots, trickle down did not work. Of course facts don’t matter with cults.

But go ahead and chant, “liberals are loony, liberals are looney”, while the country falls apart. You cultist, idiots.

By getalife

September 21, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

It’s country first.

Destroying it.

By getalife

September 21, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

All the sudden, our broken government is going to solve a problem?

Which part of broken do you not understand?

Geez.

Andy,

You should follow RW’s lead and cut and run.

Nobody is buying it.

Time to give it a rest.

Go to rehab you drunken wingnut.

By TW

September 21, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Wesly Brown - when all that’s left between ego and the horror of a maggot infested soul, the cling to ego becomes stronger than truth.

At the pit of the Republican ideology is a self loathing so horrific they will avoid facing it at all costs.

All they have left is ego, Wesly Brown. While obviously sad, pitiful even, try to see the humor in it :)

By AJC/DNC Management

September 21, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Such hysteria.

So little information.

Typical.

By Ray

September 21, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Anxious to hear from the Republicans how it felt having socialism save their a*******es this week. Heard George W called Chavez and begged for advice.

By Silly Me

September 21, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Obama/Biden 08: Even if politics does make strange bedfellows, it’s kinda nice to have a chocolate on the pillows.

By RW-(the original)

September 21, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

getalife,

It’s Ryder Cup weekend. Why don’t you take a break from being a whiny little America hater. At least you’re not a make believe cowboy riding your hobby horse around pretending you’re going to “teach a lesson” to other bloggers, though.

I see that calling people maggots is now blog approved. I still bet Andy can’t get away with it.

By Dusty

September 21, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Ray@1:16

You are a bit mixed up, Ray. That was Obama calling Chavez to get more ideas on socialism.

Chavez said”Beat it, keed! You ees NOT gonna win election! Takes bulletos, big lies and big promeeses. You got the biggies but run from bulletos. Don’t bother me, loser!”

By AmVet

September 21, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Alas poor Wiper is convinced that everybody and anybody who voted against the most incompetent and some of the least ethical men to ever occupy the West Wing, is an Obamaniac.

And predictably the half-wit declares himself the winner, before the game even ensues.

Laughably pathetic.

What else can one expect from these “lies are truth, failure is success and we do no wrong” bunglers and this pitiable, sheep “base” of “woe is me, life is so unfair and the liberal media, including Mr. Bookman is the cause”.

Wiper, it is obvious that as one of the utterly misguided, dwindling, die-hard BushCo apologists you think you know everything, when in reality you choose to know precious little, as evidenced by the fact that I voted against Kerry and Gore, you presumptuous clown.

Maybe you need to need to put on your big boy pants and acquaint yourself with the old adage, “Better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”.

Because trust me, after that and numerous other juvenile and meritless claims of yours, anybody who has been here a while and knows my politics, knows beyond the shadow of a doubt what I have REPEATEDLY stated.

And it ain’t that I’m voting for Obama.

Simply put, you are another of the always enraged who is full of bullhockey and asinine assumptions, and who relies almost exclusively upon presumptive personal attacks and insults.

Like the handful of “conservative” goofballs here, you have learned well form Mr. Rove and Mr. Chambless, yes?

But even bigger, you just won’t see what miserable failures these fraud conservative neo-cons have been, will you?

Too close to home, I suspect.

And as just another garden-variety, chest-pounding, chicken hawk enabler, you simply cannot admit that your now-repudiated, never was remotely conservative, ideology is generally irrelevant.

How otherwise can you explain the historic a$$-whipping you nematodes took in the last election?

You do understand historic, don’t you Wiper?

Your faux conservatives lost every single contested seat and took none. Nary. Nada. Zilch. A slaughter of epic and humiliating proportions. And you ostriches will never acknowledge or even consider it.

The final count, Wiper? 36 - 0!!! OUCH!!! That’s gotta hurt your feelings a little.

But WAIT! It gets even better!

Will you recall your multitude of knuckle-dragging Bush-lite candidates ALL getting embarrassed by and losing to an septuagenarian RINO maverick? A man who is despised by that lovable Rovian smear machine and your RepubliCon power brokers?

And now some of you more gutless, feign admiration and support for him!!!

(I think the secret service needs to be VERY watchful as it would not surprise me at all if someone in the right wing’s lunatic fringe tries to take him out and get the eminently qualified Ms. Palin in as prez. You know another good southern cracker like the one who shot up that “liberal” children’s play in Tennessee).

Like myself, more Americans than not, could see that McCain was the ONLY man on that stage with ANY courage or valor and ANY willingness to put the country before this self-serving, inept GOP.

And I said so back then. And voted for him.

In other words, he is the antithesis of you craven, me-first, hide behind your mommy’s skirts, never-served, never-will neo-liths.

And now two years later the outlook is again REALLY bleak for the remaining pedophiles. etc. in your Ronnie/Newt, scandal-ridden, completely hijacked, lunatic-fringed Republican Party.

So I see, and fully understand, why as an already enraged neo-con, you are HYPER-p!ssed now. Particularly after watching millions of Americans over these past two years cutting and running from BushCo as fast as their girly legs will carry them.

You and dustmite and duhng beetle notwithstanding.

Yet, I truly hope the GOP is capable of reinventing itself and returning to a sane, reasonable party.

McCain, Hagel, Chafee and Coleman offer some hope

It would be great for the nation if that could happen, but I sense that it will take several more humiliating elections before the “faithful” begrudgingly see the light and toss out the political frauds and theocratic charlatans.

Otherwise, your non-conservative “conservative” time has come and gone. About 12 years. Like the Third Reich.

Enjoy. You’ve earned it. Herr Wiper…

By Midori

September 21, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

“The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We’ve seen too many,” said 80-year-old Air Force veteran Donn Spegal, a lifelong Republican from St. Petersburg, who sees McCain’s new running mate as the kind of “wedge issue” social conservative that has made him disenchanted with his party.

“I’m truly offended by Palin,” said Republican Philinia Lehr, 37, of Largo, a full-time mother with a nursing degree who voted for George Bush in 2004. Like Palin, she has five children and she doesn’t buy that the Alaska governor can adequately balance her family and the vice presidency.

“You’re somebody’s mom and what are you going to do, say, ‘Excuse me, country, hold on?’ … She’s preaching that she’s this mom of the year and taking that poor little baby all over everywhere. And, you know, what she’s doing to her 17-year-old daughter is just appalling.” Lehr said she’s bothered by the way Palin’s pregnant daughter has been brought into the national spotlight.

Of the 11 undecided voters participating in the discussion one recent evening at the Times — four Republicans, five Democrats, and two registered to no party — only two Republican men applauded the selection of Palin.

By TW

September 21, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

It only makes sense that Palin’s approval rating will settle beside Bush’s, being that she is Bush in drag.

With all the talk of how Obama should have picked Hillary, given the Palin ploy, how poetic that this past week has further highlighted McCain’s awful judgement of playing Palin while the economically savvy Romney sits on the bench.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 21, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Does one not imagine the eyes bugging out of his head?

By TW

September 21, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said.

Can’t handle Biden without her training wheels, but she’s ready for bin laden?

McSame/SisterSarah ‘08 - YOUR STUPID - AND WE KNOW IT!

By AmVet

September 21, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Midori,

As regards your 2:01, I just don’t sense that the neo-cons dependence upon the “cracker factor” (can I trademark that?!) is enough to save them this time.

And even if you don’t like McCain, there is no denying that the neo-cons of the lunatic fringe have already lost with him as the nominee…

By Midori

September 21, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

the “cracker factor”???

LMAO!!!

Please, please do trademark that!!! :)

By Paul

September 21, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

[[Palin was asked what specific foreign policy experience qualifies her to be vice president.]]

[[a lot more convincing if the outsider in question had been paying serious attention to national and international issues the past few years.]]

I’ve been waiting with some interest to see how Democrats would resolve the whole ‘experience’ question once Palin was picked, given that was the attack line Hillary used (didn’t work) and McCain adopted. Seems many of the ‘experience’ questions are interchangeable for Obama and Palin. Numerous pundits said McCain gave up the ‘experience’ attack line when he picked Palin. Maybe he gave it up - but Democrats reclaimed it.

Anyhow, Jay finally gave us the only answer I’ve heard to differentiate the experience issue between Obama and Palin: Obama’s been paying attention. Not just attention, but serious attention. For the past few years.

Got it.

On second thought, I’m still waitin’.

By Alicia

September 21, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

McCain talks about putting country first: if he had put country first, he would have selected the best and most experienced person among Republican ranks to serve as his VP.

Instead he selected Palin. Palin may have her strengths and may have done some good things in Alaska, but I cannot see how anyone can say that she is the best person he could have chosen to be his VP.

Let’s be brutally honest here, he chose her because he wanted to appeal to women and also because she would help galvanize the Republican religious base, which he needs to campaign for him and provide the funding, etc.

So let’s be clear, what McCain did was to put the Republican party and his career first and country last by choosing as his VP a person whose views are diametrically opposed to his own on a number of issues and who could, quite realistically, become president should McCain be elected and then incapacitated.

It’s despicable - it is clear that he chose Palin as his VP for purely political gain. His being president is much more important to him than the welfare of the United States.

By Paul

September 21, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Midori

How’s your brother doing?

By Conservative Amusements

September 21, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

I wonder what would have happened had some lost little boy wandered into that stall with conservative trend-setter Sen. Craig on the prowl?

Obama 08: What’s left of America is right for America.

By Midori

September 21, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Steve Lopez looks for Russia in Nome, Alaska

Paul: several of us are still waiting for you people to tell us what the mission in Iraq is.

By Midori

September 21, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I spoke to him today.

Their power was restored just yesterday.

My sister in law says there’s a whole bunch of gouging going on there - from bread to gas.

By Paul

September 21, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Midori 3:38

LOL! I’ve been saying for a while it’s not just Iraq - it’s the entire region - and the mission ought to be to get out. Completely And do all we can here to make up the energy we get from them.

Then they can have all the strife, wars, cleansing and bombings they want.

I gotta say it… I gotta say it… then Biden would call it a humanitarian disaster and demand we unilaterally send in the US military to stop the suffering.

Your 3:44

Good to hear it’s getting better for him. My parents’ power was just restored so they left here for their home and cleanup. My sister says it could be another month (you read that correctly) before they get power. No gas except for med, fire, police. Nothing on shelves except bread and milk.

By CherokeeDave

September 23, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

JB: And you think Obama is the future????

By hillbilly ragger

October 9, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

I know it’s stating the obvious at this point, but Jay’s hit on something no conservative here can refute: Palin has given us no reason to believe she ever gave a good crap about international affairs, nor did she really know much about what had gone on in the Lower 48, prior to being picked as McCain’s VP candidate.

If conservatives are honest (and some have been) they’ll own up to how horrible a choice she really was, and realize, come November, that McCain might’ve had a shot with someone like Huckabee or Romney.

By Elizabeth

October 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Palin stated “she didn’t keep up with the war in Iraq.” She abused her power while in office in Alaska. She’s staunchly anti-abortion. She has not been willing or able to answer questions on key political issues.

I do not want this person influencing the policies of my country. When McCain picked her, it was clear to me that he was not concerned about substance or any of my concerns as an everyday American.

She does wear pretty suits. However, that is not enough to get my vote, and I don’t think other people are falling for it, either.

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