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Obama reclaims lead in polls

Well, the latest Gallup tracking numbers have just been released, showing Obama up 4 points. Yesterday he was up 2 points, the day before that by one.

A week ago, he was down by five.

There are a lot of possible explanations for that movement — the race returning to its natural state after two post-convention bounces, Sarah Palin not wearing very well on closer examination, distaste for McCain’s say-anything strategy or the fiasco on Wall Street focusing attention on economics issues. If it’s the economy, I think you will see the gap grow larger, because the Gallup poll is a rolling three-day poll, meaning it includes results from Monday, before the Wall Street mess really began to take hold.

Other polls also show considerable movement toward Obama — Ramussen has it tied, CBS/NYTimes gives Obama a five-point lead.

It’s a long way from over, and one week from tomorrow, the first presidential debate, at the University of Mississippi.

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By Mike

September 18, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

LOL. Jay should get a job with the “news” side of the AJC. He reports on polls in the same way. Namely, polls he likes are given headlines and polls he doesn’t like are ignored.

When is Jay going to give us a rundown of his opinion of Obama’s foreign policy experience? We know that he considers such experience of primary concern with Palin. Why does he not address Obama’s commensurate paucity of experience? You know. Be consistent about anything?

By getalife

September 18, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

The debates should be good with McLiar losing it and his positions are all over the place.

By Bosch

September 18, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait to see Obama wipe the floor with McCain in the debates.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

I have no idea why you libs should be looking forward to the presidential debates.

You are going to be road kill.

bwa

By mike hussein smith

September 18, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

What do the recent polls show? The chickens are coming home to roost for the Republican Party — but the voters aren’t.

By Montrell

September 18, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

It’s no surprise—after every heard about this palin character, they got the message. Obama’s going to win this election easy and all these racist republicans will now be taking orders from the brothers in DC!!

By Bosch

September 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Andy,

We are looking forward to the debates because Obama will get to call McCain on his lies. He’ll actually have to talk about the issues instead of distracting people with his b/s.

By Mark

September 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Jay, I think you mean University of Mississippi

By Mark

September 18, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Jay, I think you mean the University of Mississippi

By Truth

September 18, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Montrell used the reace card…. what a shame….

And as for the debates… let’s just see if EITHER of them give specifics and not just broad answers.

By Truth

September 18, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

RACE card… sorry

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Mark,

I think Jay said Missouri because he’s obsessed with Governor Palin and the VP debate takes place in Missouri, although not at the University of Missouri.

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Here’s a poll Jay left out

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That thread below is certainly proving my point from earlier today. Long cut and pastes from one lib staying right in place and another lib throwing around the n word without a care in the world.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 18, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

I never doubted it for a minute!

I am so proud to be able to cast my precious vote for Barack Obama

God Bless America!

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 18, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

One can easily see that the more liberal the entity conducting the poll, the better Obama’s numbers. Its easy to shift the lead in a pool by slding the sample, my bet is that the cheerleaders (i.e. the most liberal of those conduicting said polls) shifted the sample to favor Obama. Ridiculous you say, no way, remember the way the pollsters slanted the exit polls to show John Kerry with a landslide victory in 2004. Dead cat bounce for Obama.

By Truth

September 18, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

I am not calling BS on these polls, but I was just wondering how these polls work. I have never been polled. Just curious…

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

By Bosch September 18, 2008 1:51 PM Andy, We are looking forward to the debates because Obama will get to call McCain on his lies. He’ll actually have to talk about the issues instead of distracting people with his b/s.

Bosch: We are all now assuming that Oblahma will not curl up into a fetal position when they take his teleprompter from him.

I think you should clear that little hurdle first.

Then, you must hope that he doesn’t turn loose a hour long stream of “uhs” and “ums” like he’s been known to do, like every time he has no teleprompter.

Maybe that will be good enough for y’all, who knows?

By Midori

September 18, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, BOSCH AND MRS. G!!!

By GMAN

September 18, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

It never ceases to amaze me how conservatives love polls when they seem to be in their favor but denounce them when they’re not. There’s so much SPIN coming from the Right that even their candidates are getting dizzy. Just like in 1992… IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!

Bush/McCain - Gambling with Your children’s futures!

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 18, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

I am not a conservative; I am a liberal.

By Lady Rothschild

September 18, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Obama made some good points with his financial comments and utilizing Paul Volker’s endorsement. He should be picking up points in the media. Too bad he is an elitist arrogant, condescending bucket of tripe.

I am Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

The University of Mississippi debate is also on domestic issues.

Obambi is going to be in real trouble when he finds out his teleprompter has been lying to him about just which one of them has tried to nip this little housing fiasco in the bud and which one of them has a campaign chock full of the crooks that have ripped us off for hundreds of millions of dollars.

By G

September 18, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

The only logical choice,

OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08!!!!!!

By Swami Dave

September 18, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Jay:

There are still a number of shifts and turns that these campaigns will have to navigate, but I do think that your celebration is a bit premature.

1) Senator Obama still has to explain how he intends to implement a tax increase (specifically as it relates to capital gains) onto already challenged financial markets that need investor investment & activity. Increased taxation serves to minimize investment activity; which would be the wholy -wrong- thing to do.

2) Senator Obama still has to explain why he was busy becoming the #2 receipent of contributions from those associated with Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac (even though he had been in Washington less than most of the rest. While he’s at it, he’ll need to explain why two of his top economic advisors were individuals at the middle of the scandal. It will be especially interesting to note that while he was collecting money & schmoozing with the morons or crooks (take your pick) at the center of the debacle, John McCain was co-sponsoring legislation that might have prevented much of it.

3) Senator Obama is going to have to explain why he (and his party) continue to obstruct the will of the America people by refusing to address the energy issue in a realistic way. Outside of the liberal kooks in Hollywood or the policy wonks in Washington, the American people recognize that our challenges with energy are issues of supply that must be addressed.

…and as an update to our previous discussions, I note that there seems to be more and more attention from publications and commentators focusing attention on the mortgages & instruments within those packages held by the now-struggling institutions. Apparently, more and more people are realizing that the current situation is a combination of improper leverage / risk management procedures of packages made up of loans that should have never been made.

-Swami Dave

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Remember a few weeks ago when the energy crisis was on everybody’s minds and the Dhimmicrat Congress tackled it by going on vacation?

It likes they’re going to reprise that tactic for the credit/housing mess.

Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) — The Democratic-controlled Congress, acknowledging that it isn’t equipped to lead the way to a solution for the financial crisis and can’t agree on a path to follow, is likely to just get out of the way.

One reason, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that “no one knows what to do” at the moment.

No serious person could possibly vote for these clowns.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

By GMAN September 18, 2008 2:17 PM It never ceases to amaze me how conservatives love polls when they seem to be in their favor but denounce them when they’re not.

Uh, Girlieman, perhaps you should wait until we denounce the polls, you reckon?

Did anybody else notice how Jay didn’t bother shaking the See B.S. and Treason Times polls at us, he waited until Gallup came out?

I can just imagine what those pinkos at the two rags are asking now, “will you vote for Thee Chosen One, Oblahma or are you a racist?”

bwa.

By R M Pierce

September 18, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

The link above to a contrasting poll has the following caveat…not as recent as the one’s spoke of in this column. “We have 38 presidential polls today due to a large number of new ARG polls. The results are given below. The upshot is that John McCain has taken the lead in the electoral college 274 to 243. However, there are three large caveats. First, 13 states worth, 166 electoral votes, are statistical ties. If we look only at the states where one of the candidate’s has a lead of 5% or more, Obama has 188 EVs to McCain’s 184. In other words, it is very close (again this year). Second, McCain has not taken a single Kerry state from Obama while Obama has taken two states from those Bush won in 2004 (Iowa and New Mexico). Pennsylvania is currently a tie. Third, all these polls were taken before the meltdown on Wall St. Polls taken a week from now could look quite different.”

By ByteMe

September 18, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Yes, RW, better that they screw things up by doing something so you can razz them for that, right? ;-)

By Paige

September 18, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Obama, Obama, he’s the man, if he can’t do it nobody can!

OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Now that’s a new one….likes should be looks like in my 2:39.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Hell RW,

McLiar wants a commission and the gop would block or w veto any regulations the Dems propose.

Might as well go home, it is broken.

By jasper

September 18, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Thank God the polls have turned back. The incessant whining and moaning has been a complete drag. You dramacrats are a pathetic bunch without your makeup. You guys are far more entertaining when you’re not depressed. I mean, I just haven’t felt that great about kicking a dog when its down. So congrats on your little popularity contest. Now puhlease try to get back on task explaining why Obama is not an empty suit.

By GMAN

September 18, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Poor AJC/DNC Management, or is that AC/DC. You proved my point. It must be the SPIN cycle of the Bazarro World you guys live in!

Bush/McCain - Gambling with your children’s futures!

By Dusty

September 18, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Ah I can hear it now..the great debate…

Sen. McLi..I err McClain errr McCain..while we are here in Mississippi err no err Missouri, the err err (please move that teleprompter closer, thank you).

Now er re yes, about those lies you told er.. back in er…yes that year. You did not fool me one minute. I voted “present” on that issue and I am here to err… restate my brave position of “present”.

Now, Sen. McL.. er Lain er McCain, I know all 65 states, Alaska and the Harvard Review will vote for the STRONG me, but er.. what is your question? I mean er… er your reply??

Now people, I stand for small change err.. big change and McClain cannot answer a simple question I asked. I tell you I have big change, mostly in my pocket, and big handouts for you. That beats YOUR handouts, McLain!!

I have only ONE doghouse. Do you EVEN know how many doghouses you have McClain?? How many subprime mortgages you have on them???NOOOOOO ..I thought so!!(applause!.) This is not a bone to pick! This is a dog in the manger in Mississippi! I’m the errr… “big dog” here and the press has been instructed about that fact. I give you the floor, McLain.

Take it!!! Take it!! Please!! (I’ll be back in just a minute. Where is the men’s r…)

By Soothsayer

September 18, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

McSame/Painin 08—we’re going to bring about change and change all those things we didn’t change before we changed now that we have changed. Got it?

You know I thought if I had to look at Bush’s smirk one more time, I would puke. But now, that Sarah Palin’s voice is like fingernails on a blackboard! How would you like to be married to her? OK, don’t answer that last question.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 18, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Ya’ know Obama thinks while he speaks, carefully selects the words he uses. When you do that you don’t make major gaffes.

Like ruining our relationship with Spain.

Or confusing Sunni or Shia

Or saying the fundamentals of our economy are strong.

Or that whole 10 house thing.

McCain opens his mouth before he engages his brain. That get’s him and potentially the Nation into deep doo-doo.

America has been down that road before and as we stand here before the cliff that last dummy brought us to…I am very proud to support a candidate who is extremely well educated and who speaks carefully

By Soothsayer

September 18, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Jay,

I have a suggestion for you: charge a fee for Wooten crossovers to post on your blog. Heck, the AJC will be rolling in bucks before you know it. Not only that, but AJC/DNC Management/RW-(the original)/Bud Wiser/and all the rest of his cast of characters will broke and standing in the soup line with the rest of us in no time!

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

The pundits are saying if Obama is not elected that will prove the United States is still a racist nation and there could be trouble in the streets. What does that make Hillary for trying to keep him from getting the nomination?

Sarah Palin and Barack Obama - the Margaret Thatcher and Neville Chamberlain of America.

By Dusty

September 18, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Yes, Mrs. godzie,

Obama does err …….. speake e….ca…re…fuu…lly and

he……th..anks… you ou ou o for your…..er…supporters.

By Say It Ain't So

September 18, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

You’re right Mrs. G, The O’man really does think before he speaks. Now, please refresh our memory, how many states was that again that he has visited? Was that 57 with 3 more to go??

On the house question, Mrs. G, how many screwdrivers do you own? Better check with mister G. first, he probably has more screwdrivers than you know about.

By Jasper

September 18, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G - you mean things like “typical white people”, and “clinging to their guns and religion”, and “can i just finish my waffle”.

So Obama engages his brain on issues as long as its not about racism, disdain for working class people, or just plain dodging a dificult question. Then he’s just speaking from the heart.

By Truth

September 18, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla…. or the 57 states?

By ByteMe

September 18, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Corporal, let us know when those so-called “pundits” start working for CNN or even FOX News and not out in wacky blogland.

By Soothsayer

September 18, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

When the only tool you have is a hammer the whole world looks like a nail to you.

—Anonymous

To the Corporal: All the right loves to villify Neville Chamberlain but before you do that you should consider one thing—Great Britain was to Germany as we are to Russia or China.

The US had passed any number of laws preventing our involvement in a European war. Therefore the British could count our help.

As they say, “discretion is the better part of valor.” I wonder how much bravado you would have if you were staring down Russia or China. Especially knowing that millions of lives would be lost.

By Phillips

September 18, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Senior Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel has voiced doubts about Sarah Palin’s qualifications for the Vice-Presidency.

Hagel said John McCain’s running mate doesn’t have any foreign policy credentials.

Hagel was a prominent supporter of McCain during his 2000 bid for the presidency.

He said he thinks it’s a stretch to, in any way, say that she’s got the experience to be president of the United States. She has made only a few trips abroad.

“You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don’t know what you can say. You can’t say anything.”

Hagel also criticized the McCain campaign for its suggestion that the proximity of Alaska to Russia gave Palin foreign policy experience.

“I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, ‘I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia’,” he said.

“That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.”

A senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Hagel was a close ally of McCain, but the two men parted ways over the decision to go to war in Iraq.

Hagel skipped this year’s Republican National Convention in favor of a visit to Latin America.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 18, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Dusty

You are such a delight!

Say it ain’t so

Ever work a 26 hour day? Taken a 12 country in 3 day tour of Europe?

I use the screwdrivers and hammers and wire strippers and paintbrushes and wrenches at our house. I’m still restricted from the power saws though.

Jasper

You have all the depth a coffee saucer!

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

To ByteMe

It was on the CNN website yesterday. Just ask Jay. I sent him a copy personally.

By Soothsayer

September 18, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Sorry, the British could not count on our help.

By JAY BOOKMAN

September 18, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

I stand corrected, University of Mississippi. My apologies to the Ole Miss alumni out there. I was on my way to the dentist for a broken tooth when I posted and I was … a bit distracted.

That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

And RW, I’ll take a look below. Posting and monitoring on this blog account for 15-20 percent of my responsibilities, so I’m by no means constantly monitoring….

By GodHatesTrash

September 18, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

If Obama is somehow elected, he should thank George Herbert Hoover Walker Bush.

But I’m not counting out the voting power of America’s idiot rednekkks just yet.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Well, it looks like the economy is back off the table:

Wall Street surged higher Thursday, with the Dow Jones industrials up more than 400 points after a report that the federal government is considering creation of a repository for banks’ bad debt.

All the capitalists needed to know was that the dhimmocrat led Congress was bailing out of town.

So we got the party started.

bwa

By CJ

September 18, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Either McCain doesn’t know that Spain is located in Europe or he doesn’t know that Spain is a NATO ally, currently fighting with us in Afghanistan.

Either way, he’s an idiot, and God-willing, the American people will demonstrate to his campaign staff in November that we aren’t as stupid as they think we are.

By JAY BOOKMAN

September 18, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Stalker Mike?

The last time I posted on the polls was Sept. 7.

The headline? “Hmm. McCain gets nice bounce.”

The opening sentence?

“John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.”

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

To ByteMe

I read a news account yesterday where Obama told his supporters at a rally regarding “independents” to argue and get in their face. That’s nice.

Remember, how tense this country was during the Gore/Bush thing - awaiting all the rulings, etc. If Obama loses by a very slim margin let’s hope cooler heads prevail.

By CJ

September 18, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

From RW’s Bloomberg link above: “Senator Johnny Isakson,…scoffed at suggestions that lawmakers postpone adjournment to rewrite laws governing the financial markets…’The last thing you need,” he said, ‘are 535 people, not many of whom are that well-versed in financial markets, trying to do quick fixes to a market correction that’s one of the more significant that we’ve ever seen.’

Isakson agrees with Reid. Give it a rest.

By Truth

September 18, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

What is so wrong with being a redneck? Seriously… Some of the best men I know are good ole boys from the south that drive trucks, listen to country music, drink domestic beer, etc….

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

While you’re at it the 2:43 is a cut and paste with virtually no commentary and the second 3:42 is a complete cut and paste with no commentary.

By Soothsayer

September 18, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

“The folks who say the housing market will stabilize anytime soon must be smoking some really strong stuff.”

Friends, we are just now at the beginning.

By Booger

September 18, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

The Corporal ‘s just itching for a race fight, isn’t he. He wants one so bad.

Makes you wonder whether that lawsuit alleging racism in the Secret Service has any merit…

By jasper

September 18, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Mrs G - You resort to personal insults, and call me shallow. I won’t lower msyelf to the level of those that hate me. Someone famous said that.

By Paul

September 18, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) & CJ

[[One reason, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that “no one knows what to do” at the moment.]]

[[’The last thing you need,” he said, ‘are 535 people, not many of whom are that well-versed in financial markets, trying to do quick fixes to a market correction that’s one of the more significant that we’ve ever seen.’”]]

Ummm, is this another way for the Senate Majority leader (and Congress) to say economics “is not something I’ve understood as well as I should. … I truthfully don’t know the answer to that. …”?

Oh wait, that was McCain.

But on this issue, Obama attacks “Bush policies” and McCain attacks greedy CEOs and corporations. When is Obama going to learn he’s not running against Bush and he’s not running against Palin? McCain takes the populist approach. I’d guess Obama will come out on top simply because it happened on a Republican administration’s watch. Congress will deny any responsibility - already has - which is not something an administration can do. But the advantage that will accrue is seriously less than what’s possible because Obama has trouble with target identification and McCain knows the appeal of populism for someone from a corporate party who wants to play the rebel.

By ByteMe

September 18, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Corporal, the whole quote from the AP article:

In Elko, Obama tried to anticipate his critics and called on the crowd of about 1,500 to sharpen their elbows, too.

“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face,” he said.

“And if they tell you that, ‘Well, we’re not sure where he stands on guns.’ I want you to say, ‘He believes in the Second Amendment.’ If they tell you, ‘Well, he’s going to raise your taxes,’ you say, ‘No, he’s not, he’s going lower them.’ You are my ambassadors. You guys are the ones who can make the case.”

Out of context, it sounds bad. In context, it sounds like a rallying cry given at a political rally.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

They found a new and creative way for banks to rid debts.

Paulson and the Treasury will eat the losses. Another bailout.

Too funny, the market rebounds.

England has banned short trading.

Who bails out our government?

Future generations.

By Liar-loan McCain

September 18, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Liar-loan McCain caused the AIG mess.

All liar-loan conservatives caused it with Liar-loan McCain in the lead.

Do you know what business AIG is in? Insuring Liar-loans from liars like Liar-loan McCain.

I hate liars, especially Liar-loan McCain. Notice you have to identify a liar with three names, like an assassin? Lee Harvey Oswald. John Wilkes Booth. Liar-loan McCain.

ISAIDLIAR-LOANMCCAIN!!

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

CJ,

Isakson is nearly as clueless as Reid. If Congress wants to resign the 535 seats that they claim to be too clueless to hold anyway, it’s fine by me. We can kick all incumbents off the ballot and start next year with a whole new batch.

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

To ByteMe and Booger

Cheap shot Booger but that’s o.k. I was used to it then and I expect it now. In fact, you help prove my point that the “liberal” electorate is always a little more “volatile” when they don’t get there way - in other words, they’re much more likely to “demonstrate” over their issues. I’ll leave it at that.

This has the capacity to be a real issue. If you don’t think law enforcement is worried about it (pre & post election) you have your head in the sand. Am I (and was I) a conservative? You bet. And I always prided myself on doing an equal job for both sides. In fact, personally I went overboard with a “liberal” protectee just to make sure I left no stone unturned for their security. But then I don’t expect you to believe or understand that. It’s called professionalism.

By the way Booger, here’s a little something the AJC published for me last year ……….

“Having retired from the U.S. Secret Service after 27 years of service, I feel compelled to respond to “Secret Service on bias hot seat” (12/8/07, AJC). Space does not permit me to address all of the issues involved except for three important points. First, to allege any type of discrimination is easy and often far from the truth. Second, it is my understanding the great majority of African-American Secret Service agents past and present did not desire to become part of this civil suit. Third, during my 14 years as a supervisor in the Atlanta Field Office I served under five Special Agents in Charge who were among the finest public servants and people I have ever known. Two were African-American.”

By tiff

September 18, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Montrell your 1:48 comments spewing all that garbage about whites taking orders from us blacks is just republican BS. We all know you are not black, you say these things to cause turmoil between blacks and whites. To try and make whites think if they elect Obama/Biden blacks are gonna take over. Not gonna work this time. Obama has said this election is about change, and I for one believe him. So why don’t you crawl back under the rock from which you came. Tell the right-wing hate machine it’s not gonna work this time. Besides blacks don’t refer to each other as brothers anymore, or didn’t you get the memo.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

RW,

Shut it down and start over?

Mmmmm, looks like something I opined.

Anyhoo, we are collapsing like the Soviet Union.

Might be a good time for some breakaway regions to form their own country.

How about all wingnuts go to Alaska and Palin can be queen of the wingnuts?

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 18, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Jasper,

I’m sorry. You are right. I should not have called you shallow.

I should have kept what I thought about you to myself.

Mea Culpa. Mea Maxima Culpa.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

OMG, private was in the secret service.

Post a picture with a liberal client.

By april

September 18, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Obama doesn’t sound quite as lame now that he’s using the teleprompter for any public speaking. Also, his liberal converts are sparing no expense in their expressions of ageism, sexism and lies, which they stepped up when Obama was down in the polls. Their panic turned to violent stereotyping and character assasination. As a result of their hate-filled propaganda, they are alienating friends and loved ones in hopes of pulling in a few more votes for the almighty obama. The cruelty in their attacks has made me wonder if I really knew some of these people that I’ve considered loved ones. They feel lost to me now. Thich Nhat Hahn talks about the need for a cause to be pure, not violated by hate for the opponent. There’s way too much hate going on, and right now I’m seeing the democrats as the perpetrators.

By jasper

September 18, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G you’re still a class act. Somewhere deep down, I’m happy for you. Your dude won today. Tomorrow’s another day. til then.

By CJ

September 18, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Paul said, “When is Obama going to learn he’s not running against Bush and he’s not running against Palin?

No, Obama’s not running against Bush.

Yes, he’s running against both McCain and Palin.

Yes, Obama’s running against Bush’s policies that are taking this country into third-world status: large tax cuts the wealthy, tiny tax cuts for the middle class, more deficits and debt, more free trade to move jobs overseas where workers can be abused and exploited, more tax incentives to move jobs overseas, more no-bid contracts for the politically connected, “more wars” (McCain’s own words), more activist judges (despite the right’s claims to the contrary) who will dismiss the right to privacy and overturn Roe v. Wade, continued exploitation of U.S. workers, less safe cars/toys/food/water, continued lies and abuse of power…

In summary, more of the same.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

New to the blogs april?

Sounds like somebody close is voting for Obama.

Folks on the left and right spew hatred for the Clintons.

Welcome to the blogoshere.

By @@

September 18, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

jay’s “pole” dancing?

Yippeee……me too!

There appears to be a gap of between 10 and 20 points between how voters see the parties and what they think of the candidates. Between one-tenth and one-fifth of America’s voters feel that the Democratic Party would be the best for the country but like the McCain-Palin ticket better.

By seven points, they identify as Democrats more than Republicans. But by 16 points, they say that if they faced the “toughest decision of your life” they would go to McCain rather than Obama for advice.

They think the Democrats will do better on healthcare by 19 points, but by 20 points they think McCain is more qualified than Obama to be president.

They prefer the Democrats to deal with the economy by four points (down from 10 a few months ago) but feel — by eight points — that the Republicans better understand what it is like to live day by day in America.

While they are more likely to vote Democrat for Congress, they rate Obama as more of a talker than a doer by 20 points and rate McCain the opposite by 15 and, by nine points, they think the Republican ticket has the better judgment than the Democratic nominees.

Bump in a dump till you’re dead.

Kid you gotta have a gimmick

If you wanna get ahead.

You can uh…You can uh…

You can uh…uh…uh…

That’s how Burlesque was born.

So he uh…and he uh…

And he uh…uh…uh…

Tah dah.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

The latest bail out is pushing the total of socialism over $1 trillion.

But, Congress is working to throw you another bone in a second economic stimulus package.

Crazy.

By lee

September 18, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

I was going to vote for Obama, but I just realized that in the next few years I will be inheriting a large piece of land, and obama wants me to pay 45% of the land value to the government. I’ll have to end up selling my families land to pay the taxes, and all of that history goes away. McCain wants me to pay only 15%, which I can probably do, but 45%, no way.

Look up the estate tax Obama is proposing. He will be taking away from a lot of people, hardworking people who saved for their families, and have had land and houses for generations. Now they won’t be able to afford it if they inherit it. Me included…

By Frederick Douglass

September 18, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Shh, if you listen closely, you can hear Sarah Palin exploding in McCain’s Face. High comedy indeed, trailing in the polls, economy tanking, and he’s lashed himself to an idiot. I’m trying to work on my race card issus, but I thought the master race was smarter than that.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

September 18, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

I’ll just rehash my post from a previous poll column. Doesn’t matter if a poll shows Obama ahead or McCain ahead. Reporting polls are just the media commenting on a horse race. The only poll that counts is November 4. It’s final and binding.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) September 18, 2008 4:09 PM While you’re at it the 2:43 is a cut and paste with virtually no commentary and the second 3:42 is a complete cut and paste with no commentary.

Oh come on RW, be serious.

I’m mean you know those rules only apply to me.

By Liar-loan McCain

September 18, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Hey Sarah. (a song sung to the tune of Que Sera).

When I was just a city mayor, I asked my council what pork should be. Will it corrupt us, will it impede, here’s what they said to me. Hey Sarah Sarah, your future is ours to grease, as long as you are discreet. Hey Sarah Sarah.

When I was just a governor, I asked Alaska should we secede

Should we be sovereign, should we be free, here’s what they said to me

Hey Sarah Sarah, you cant mess with liberty, the country’s not ours to bleed, Hey Sarah Sarah.

When I became the first FemVeep, I asked my ticket what should I be? Should I be graceful, should I be sweet, or should I be Hillary? Hey Sarah, Sarah, (everybody sing), the future’s not ours to see, depends on Diebold’s tally, Hey Sarah Sarah.

What we’ll be we’ll be.

By Truth

September 18, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Frederick… I give you credit… You seem to be getting better, but you just had to say it didnt you? lol You will get there. Just dont give up!

By Paul

September 18, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Hello CJ 4:59

I heard Obama use the “Bush-McCain” tie-in at a rally during the primaries. I thought it intellectually dishonest but the audience loved it. Strategy appeared to be to transfer Bush dislike onto McCain, something problematic for one who has so often been at odds with Bush. But Obama thinks it effective. I have my doubts. But all many people hear is “Bush” or “Palin.” The target is McCain – and he should be specifically addressed.

Large tax cuts for the wealthy? You mean not rescinding the top-tier cuts? I think that’s a mistake but Obama just said with the economy the way it is he may have to delay that for a lonnnnnng time. So the difference between the two is….

More free trade: you may want to review which party championed free trade, which Democratic president pushed it, and what circumstances other than political caused the Democratic party to shift. Hint: it has nothing to do with trying to convince a couple of union states with job losses to vote for him. Nothing at all.

No-bid contracts: do you happen to have any references, any, where McCain has spoken in favor of abuses associated with this type of contracting procedure? Better yet, any specific proposals by Obama to change this? Even better yet, any legislation proposed by the Democratic Congress the last two years to change the law? (Indignant speeches don’t count). Those contracts generally followed the law during award. Don’t like it, change the law. Democratic Congress, hello?

More wars? Do you happen to have a cite? I’m not familiar with that one. I am, familiar, though, with Sen Biden calling for more invasions of Moslem countries and Sen Obama calling for invasion of Pakistan, regardless of what their government wants. So it seems either ticket will give us more wars, yes? (providing you have a cite for McCain).

By CJ

September 18, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

[Obama] will be taking away from a lot of people, hardworking people who saved for their families…

lee @5:10,

You left a couple of critical pieces of data out of your comment:

First, Obama’s not proposing to raise the estate tax; he’s proposing to leave it at precisely the rate already in effect when he would take office (January 2009).

Second, and more importantly, you conveniently left out the fact that the estate tax only applies to the portion of estates valued at more than $3.5 million. 99 percent of us won’t ever inherit property worth anywhere near that much.

Contrary to your assertion, those “hardworking people who saved for their families” will not have anything taken from them under any estate tax because, as you know, they are dead. Since dead people don’t own anything, dead people don’t pay taxes.

Those who inherit such estates (i.e. those who would be taxed) did not receive such inheritances through “hard work”. Rather, such heirs are lucky to be the sons/daughters/grandsons/granddaughters/great grandsons/great grandaughters/etcetera of people who worked hard. Such heirs drink from the same water supply, breathe the same air, drive on the same roads and expressways, and benefit from the same economic infrastructure that give us a better standard of living than most other countries. Therefore, such heirs should pay the same taxes on their inheritances as those of us who set our alarms and go to work every day pay on our earned income (our customers also paid taxes on their income before they purchased our goods and services…double-taxation…what’s new?).

By Liar-loan McCain

September 18, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Hey Sarah. (a song sung to the tune of Que Sera).

When I was just a city mayor, I asked my council what pork should be. Will it corrupt us, will it impede, here’s what they said to me. Hey Sarah Sarah, your future is ours to grease, as long as you are discreet. Hey Sarah Sarah.

When I was just a governor, I asked Alaska should we secede

Should we be sovereign, should we be free, here’s what they said to me

Hey Sarah Sarah, you cant mess with liberty, the country’s not ours to bleed, Hey Sarah Sarah.

When I became the first FemVeep, I asked my ticket what should I be? Should I be graceful, should I be sweet, or should I be Hillary? Hey Sarah, Sarah, (everybody sing), the future’s not ours to see, depends on Diebold’s tally, Hey Sarah Sarah.

What we’ll be we’ll be.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

September 18, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

to lee @ 5:10

This is a problem a good many people face, rural people especially. You can’t hang on to the family farm or land because you can’t afford the taxes. (We are talking about inheritance tax here but property tax figures into the mix as well). This would probably also apply to people inheriting small businesses.

Let’s look at this one way. Taxes were paid on the income which enabled your family to buy the land to begin with. Each and every year property taxes have been paid on this land according to something called “fair market value”, which is some assessor’s opinion of what it is worth. No matter that it might be land that is sitting there as 100% green space, you will most likely be taxed at a rate determined from what the property would be worth if it were sold for a development project. (Of course we also pay taxes so that gov’t can acquire green space while they are taxing people off land that is green space.) If your family has owned this say 50-100 years they have paid thousand of dollars in property taxes over the years. So when you inherit the land then you are faced with a huge tax bill. I’ve seen it time after time people losing the family land.

Some say this only will affect the rich. This actually doesn’t affect the rich at all. They have the means and the know how to shelter their holdings from all this. Like most other things it’s the little guy who pays.

I guess this is technically off topic but in my opinion no more so than many other things I see.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

This guy will be getting out just in time for Sarah’s second term as president:

Kernell, a Memphis Democrat, said his 20-year-old son David had been contacted by authorities investigating the hacking of Palin’s personal e-mail account, the newspaper reported on its Web site this afternoon.

The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation Wednesday into the hacking, according to the Associated Press.

Buh bye.

By Liar-loan McCain

September 18, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Taxes R NEVER offtopic, hillbilly deluxe.

McCain will cut taxes for the rich.

Obama will cut taxes for the poor.

C the diff, Biff? It depends on the mill, Bill.

Obama 08: America takes over, Rover.

By Paul

September 18, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Liar-loan McCain 5:49

How can Obama cut taxes for the poor, when the poor don’t pay Federal income tax?

By Frederick Douglass

September 18, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Truth, as a matter of record, I checked myself into a facility to try and get a handle on my race card issues. Like any addiction, its a day to day struggle, so when I see a plum, I can’t resist picking it.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Calling people racists and hacking into your opponent’s email account, my, oh my, the Oblahma Smear Machine is hard at work.

Some things they just never “change.”

By Liar-loan McCain

September 18, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

I’m poor, and I pay federal income tax. Just some free advice: dont go tweeking the IRS’s nose on blogs. I work part time for the IRS, (seasonally), and the first thing you have to sign is a promise you will not try to rat out someone you know and hate, and abuse the IRS for your own personal vendettas. I signed it.

But stfu anyway, Claude.

Obama 08: America takes over, Claude.

By GodHatesTrash

September 18, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Never misunderestimate the stupidity and racism of red state, rural, and suburban voters.

Hensley-McCain/L-o-l-a in November. Morons elect other morons.

Game over Obama.

Game over America?

Stay tuned, probably won’t be long…

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Polly works for the IRS, eh?

And blogs 24/7/365 too.

Looks like I need to file a concerned citizen’s complaint.

I am the boss after all.

Government corruption right before our very eyes.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Obamas running mate said that paying more taxes makes you a patriot. That’s another strange tactic, questioning the patriotism of the 95% you claim you are going to cut taxes on.

It’s going to be interesting to see how Obama works out the answer to whether he’s going to delay his supposed tax cuts along with postponing the tax increases for “the rich.” Of course it would require that we had a media that cared about news gathering.

And for gosh sakes people, you could have 500 Billion dollars stuffed in your mattress (you might need a little extra space) and as long as you didn’t work you wouldn’t pay taxes on it and the goverment would classify you as poor. So we can at least change this “tax cuts for the rich” lunacy?

By getalife

September 18, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

“Chairman Bernanke says in private meeting that Fed has lost control of the economy

“We have lost control,” said economist David Hale, quoting Bernanke. “We cannot stabilize the dollar. We cannot control commodity prices.”

Um, uh, OMG.

If you have money in the bank, you may want to get it out.

Geez.

By Paul

September 18, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Liar Loan McCain

I was using Federal guidelines for poverty as defining “poor.” Interesting thing is, many families in the ill-defined middle class pay little-to-no income tax, thanks to the Bush tax cuts.

Much of what gets touted by Sen Obama is not a tax cut (reduction in tax) or rebate (return of tax paid) - it’s a payment based on income. So a family earning N thousand a year, who pays no tax but gets a check for $N is in the category many erroneously say is getting a tax cut.

So a family that makes above average income is going to have part of their money sent to another middle to lower class family. Even though they don’t pay any Fed income tax to begin with.

I’m kinda thinking of voting for the ticket that offers me the highest bribe. Works for Congress…

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

To getalife

Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush: Use your imagination.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: You are asking a predominately dhimmocrat blog if they have any money in the bank?

Bwahahahahahahahaha, good one, man.

By CJ

September 18, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Hillbilly said, “So when you inherit the land then you are faced with a huge tax bill. I’ve seen it time after time people losing the family land.

No he has not “seen it time after time (unless he’s hangs out almost exclusively with a bunch of multi-millionaire landowners who are all, coincidentally, cash poor).

This story a myth (see my post at 5:36). These guys continue to pretend that there isn’t a multi-million dollar exemption on the estate tax, that landowners are usually cash poor (they’re not) and that somehow tax breaks on inherited income is justified at the expense of the rest of us who earn most of our income.

By Paul

September 18, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 6:11

I like to look at candidate statements and situations and evaluate them on their face - not according to who said it or the party. I also like to imagine reaction if the same thing had been said or done by the other candidate.

If McCain had said those who pay taxes are patriotic (not an exact quote by how Obama’s advertisers would spin it) or he was going to delay getting more money from the Greedy Class, the outrage and talking points would be out immediately.

By @@

September 18, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

Nooo she did…..n’t!

Don’t vote for a candidate because she’s cute?

How about don’t vote for a candidate whose manboobs are bigger than his wife’s?

I’m not sure how that bust is gonna fly with the American public.

By CJ

September 18, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

John McCain “More wars.

Enjoy!

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Quite y’all, hear your next president:

Senator Obama talks a tough game on the financial markets but the facts tell a different story. He took more money from Fannie and Freddie than any Senator but the Democratic chairman of the committee that regulates them. He put Fannie Mae’s CEO who helped create this disaster in charge of finding his Vice President. Fannie’s former General Counsel is a senior advisor to his campaign. Whose side do you think he is on? When I pushed legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Senator Obama was silent. He didn’t lift a hand to avert this crisis. While the leaders of Fannie and Freddie were lining the pockets of his campaign, they were sowing the seeds of the financial crisis we see today and enriching themselves with millions of dollars in payments. That’s not change, that’s what’s broken in Washington.

I thought you were going to get in our face?

Not our pockets.

By lookilu

September 18, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

What ever is meant to be will be. Polls smolls…let’s see if people want to trust a new Kennedy or Clinton type. Mccain doesn’t have all the answers, but neither does Obama. Visionary as history shows go down in history as the better presidential sitting regardless of issues and plans and or economic conditions. People thought Kennedy was nuts for wanting to put a man on the moon. Mccain is not bold enough to come up with an out of the box idea like that-just excerpts of the same old speech Bush gave at his nomination(check Bushes old transcripts) Now…republicans and democrats working together for with an honorable VP in Biden(have you heard the man’s life story-(Palin’s pales in comparison) ….those are the equivalent to a man on the moon idea if I’ve ever heard one!!! Ohhh…the posibilities! Guess republicans never had a Dream like Martin Luther King…never thought my kid would be playing across the race lines…now that’s out of the box thinking that formed into reality again… It’s about being on the right side of history sometimes and no one can stop that but God himself…

Im not obsessing over polls anymore…are you?

By Paul

September 18, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC 6:21

[[You are asking a predominately dhimmocrat blog if they have any money in the bank?]]

They will, once the income transfers start. I mean welfare. I mean tax cuts. Heck, take your pick.

By Emily

September 18, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for WEALTHIER Americans.

Biden says he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama want to “take money and put it back in the pocket of MIDDLE-CLASS people.”

Under the Democrats’ economic plan, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

Biden told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Thursday that, in his words, “it’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

I say YES!

OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08

By Paul

September 18, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

CJ

Please. I expected more of a citation regarding the allegation McCain will bring us “more wars” than a video posted on Youtube going over the Iraq war.

Your assertion was “more wars” – not a continuation of the current, but more. I took that as “additional.” If by “more” you mean ‘continuation’ please explain how McCain’s timetable for withdrawal is significantly different from McCain’s. Please do not bring in the “100 years” nonsense. Most here know the context.

You may even want to tackle how Obama’s moving US military thoughout the Middle East is different from McCain’s moving us about. I’d be interested,really.

But as for “more wars” meaning “additional” – it’s pretty clear that promise has been made by Obama and Biden.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

private,

I have seen many on these blogs pretending to be in the military, FBI, dem or gop, shrinks, rich, etc…

Pardon me for not believing you but I am from the show me the proof state.

You see, imaginations run wild on these blogs.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Paul: No they won’t. They will just blow it faster and with more gusto.

And then whine for more.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

This guy that hacked Governor Palin’s personal email was a moron. Not only did he only use one proxy server, apparently when he posted the screen caps he didn’t zero in on the content and left his address bar in the picture so his information is right there behind the proxy information.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

RW,

Was it a teenager hacker?

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC-M,

Not only will they blow it faster, they’ll put it right back into the same pockets the government stole it from in the first place.

By Paul

September 18, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

Emily

Thank you for the explanation. I’m not sure I’d label it as patriotic, but it does tie in to a question I’ve asked earlier. So many denounce the Bush tax cuts for the superwealthy (I have, too, but the point of the question is not that by asking a question I somehow support or object to the cuts). The question is: as many of those denouncing the cuts are extremely wealthy, why have they not paid taxes at the pre-cut rate? It’s easy. Your accountant says “you owe “$430,000 in taxes.” There is absolutely nothing preventing these people from paying more. Much, much, more.

Any idea why they don’t?

As for the vast majority receiving a cut - as has been pointed out, someone who doesn’t pay can’t get a cut. A middle class family who pays little can’t get a ‘cut’ more than what was paid. But they can get a transfer from someone else.

And that ‘someone’ doesn’t have to be wealthy. Any American - even a single woman earning $40k will see some of her money sent to someone else. Even a family that’s pretty middle class.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Emily: The top 1% of wage earners by yearly gross pay 39% of all the taxes collected per year.

You may want to research your claim.

Oblahma wants to give money to people who do not even pay income taxes.

Like you?

By CJ

September 18, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

Paul said, “I like to look at candidate statements and situations and evaluate them on their face - not according to who said it or the party…They (i.e. “dhimmocrats”) will, once the income transfers start. I mean welfare. I mean tax cuts.

Paul,

You’re a Republican disguised as an independent. You’re portrayal of yourself as an objective low-info voter isn’t fooling anyone. In fact, you’re a low-info Republican who enjoys wallowing in your own ignorance.

With regard to “more wars”, you’re in denial….McCain said there’s going to be “more wars” (he wants to go to war with Iran as a starting point) again and again and again (yes, he meant additional wars). You wanted a citation, and I gave it to you—on video. Either you refused to watch it, or you didn’t like what you saw. I’m sorry if the truth hurts.

FYI — Paying taxes is patriotic. On the other hand, the borrow and spend policies of you Republicans who seek to pass our debts (almost $10 trillion now) onto future generations are despicable.

By @@

September 18, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

“it’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

Emily:

I believe conservatives put out same call to leftists when our troops were engaged in a difficult battle inside Iraq.

The leftists deserted OUR TROOPS!!!!! Rejected OUR TROOPS!!!!!

I am, in turn, rejecting and deserting OBlahMa/Biden’s call.

Turnabout is fair in my playbook.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

getalife,

The guy they’re questioning is 20, but it’s going to be pretty easy to find who did it even if it isn’t that guy because there was enough info in the address bar to find the logs at the proxy server and the owner of the proxy server is working with thee FBI to find the guy.

By Thinking About It

September 18, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

I just read that Biden thinks we ought to be patriotic and proud to pour our tax money into all of the democratic entitlement programs…Every time he talks about taking money from someone who worked and earned their money and just distributing it to the welfare and cocaine freaks and crack heads,I get a really bothersome tumbling in my gut!!! Kinda like ” Where will the country be in a few years?”Broke and full of low end slugs with their hand outstretched waiting for their Guvmint handout!!!!!!!!!

By getalife

September 18, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

RW,

Yeah, they will get him.

He should not cooperate, hire a lawyer to cover it up or is that just for politicians?

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

Paul,

After a tax cut in Massachusetts a few years back the legislature insisted on having two options on the form, one for filing and paying at the new rate and one for the old higher rate.

Care to guess which option Kerry and Kennedy used?

By getalife

September 18, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Well, your welfare argument is a loser since w turned socialist.

Now, you are giving it to failed corporations.

By CJ

September 18, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

Every time [Biden] talks about taking money from someone who worked and earned their money and just distributing it to the welfare and cocaine freaks and crack heads

This is a perfect example of what I mean by low-info Republicans (redundant, I know). You guys aren’t just ignorant. You’re proud of your ignorance.

By TW

September 18, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

How come Republicans think they’re too good to pay for our country? Talk about ‘entitlements’! There is NO enititlement bigger than what a Republican thinks he is owed. Sure, let the low rent white trash, the mexicans and the coloreds get their backsides blown off in Iraq for the US - but God forbid the sacrifice should cut into the Republican yacht furniture fund.

Don’t care enough to even pay for the maintenance? Then YOU get your sorry chickenhawk, silver spoon a$$ out.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If it’s the guy they’re talking to now he’s the son of a Democrat state Senator in Tennessee.

Midori,

I’ll see your McCain can’t fire the SEC chair and raise you Obama’s notion that he can have the Joint Chiefs of Staff end a war.

By Ray

September 18, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Lookilu,

Depends on who takes them, who asks the questions, how the questions are written, what demographic is asked, the number of people and the time of day. Harry Truman went to bed on election eve thinking that Dewey was the winner because the polls said so. The most favorite picture of Truman the next day shows him holding up a copy of some newspaper with a headline, “Dewey Wins”. Maybe we’ve become a little more sophisticated with our polls lately but it’s still dead even. The polls don’t factor in a lot of things that they can’t ask….. would you really vote for a black candidate? Does running a woman really jerk your gender chain? I really wanted Hillary but,……..
Stay tuned, the best is yet to come.

By Liar-loan McCain

September 18, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

Bwa

By Paul

September 18, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

CJ 6:57

You haven’t been here long, have you? If you had you’d know that when someone posts in brackets or quotes at the beginning, they’re referencing another’s words. You would also know that one of our more conservative bloggers uses rather colorful names for his political opponents (dhimmocrats). Quoting part of what he said back to him does not mean agreement.

[[You’re portrayal of yourself as an objective low-info voter ]]

See? The previous sentence is what you said. I’m quoting it but I don’t agree. When have I ever said I was objective. Or low info?!!? No need to get nasty. [[you’re in denial….McCain said there’s going to be “more wars” (he wants to go to war with Iran as a starting point)]]

Brackets. That’s you. I said I was not aware McCain had called for additional wars. I suppose that’s low-info, I would call it not familiar with your sources. But merely repeating the accusation from a truncated YouTube does not exactly meet the standard of citing source material (on this day before tis audience McCain said “N” – transcript linked). You don’t believe Obama said everything and meant everything the way he’s portrayed by McCain 527s, do you?

Paying taxes is patriotic? Well, everyone’s entitled to their opinion.

By the way, care to tackle the problem of Biden calling for invasion in Africa and Obama in Pakistan? Okay, maybe not invasion. Incursions. No, wait. Limited military operations. Not that, either. Assassination teams. Yeah, that’s it. Obama’s assassination teams. And Biden’s peacekeepers. Send in the military and get our guys killed. Yup. Keeping peace.

By Midori

September 18, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

don’t know what you’re talking about with the JCS comment, however, I see you still shop at Strawmen ‘R Us.

By Midori

September 18, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Paying taxes is patriotic?

It is according to Frank Costello.

By TW

September 18, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

‘Palin/McCain’?????

She really said that?

Has McSame EVER worn the pants?

By Gayle

September 18, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

TW at 7:13

No truer words were ever spoken, and you did it beautifully. Thank you.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

I’ll go out on a limb and without even looking it up I’ll declare that second 7:15 an unattributed cut and paste with no independent commentary.

Midori,

Obama has loudly declared on several occasions that on day one he’ll call the Joint Chiefs into his office and give them a new mission, that new mission being to end the Iraq war. This shouldn’t be needed but since it’s you I’m talking to I’ll add that they can’t do that and a wannabe CIC should know that.

By Midori

September 18, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

This is Your Nation on White Privilege

By Tim Wise

For those who still can’t grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

White privilege is when you can call yourself a “f***’ redneck,” like Bristol Palin’s boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you’ll “kick their f***’ a*,” and talk about how you like to “shoot s**” for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.

White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

This came from the mouth of a democrat:

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.

OMG, that was sooooooo long ago.

By CJ

September 18, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Yes, you were laughing with and agreeing with the pre-adolescent “dhimmocrats” nonsense. Own it, bro. It’s there for all to see.

Repeating the accusation from a truncated YouTube does not exactly meet the standard of citing source material? Source material? A video of the man himself saying the same thing in speech after speech after speech is as “source material” as it gets. You probably think that George Allen didn’t really call that guy Macaca either. Get your head out of your a$$.

With regard to taxes and patriotism. Thank you for agreeing that I’m entitled to my opinion. You’re opinion, on the other hand, is that your kids (and their kids and their kids and their kids) should pay for the asinine war in Iraq that you helped start when you voted for Bush and associates, the agricultural subsidies (millions for millionaires) that Republicans increased by the billions, the bloated Medicare prescription drug plan enacted by Republicans after Bush lied about the cost, the billions lost to Republican cronies in no-bid, no-accountability contracts, …

The debt that you helped accumulate (by voting for borrow and spend Republicans) makes you the one who imposes taxation without representation (on future, even yet to be conceived, generations) and makes you the welfare queen. You’re a taker, and that’s not my opinion—it’s a fact.

By Jason

September 18, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

I don’t say it to be mean, but let’s get real. If John McCain had picked a black woman with 5 kids to be his running mate - one who had graduated college after 6 schools, one of which she had flunked out of, and who had admitted using drugs, as Palin has, and was leaving a pregnant 17 yr old daughter and disabled infant behind while she runs for national office, would anyone be cheering for her?

Of course not.

She is literally the Republicans not-so-great White Hope.

Pathetic.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

“I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The party left me.” Ronald Reagan

By Midori

September 18, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

RW,

Found a nifty trademark for you

I’m quite sure you have a point, but I’m not grasping it.

Today, their primary responsibility is to ensure the personnel readiness, policy, planning and training of their respective military services for the combatant commanders to utilize. The Joint Chiefs of Staff also act in an advisory military capacity for the President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense. In addition, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff acts as the chief military advisor to the President and the Secretary of Defense. In this strictly advisory role, the Joint Chiefs constitute the second-highest deliberatory body for military policy, after the National Security Council, which includes the President and other officials besides the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

so, who should the President “go” to for advice? Rush Limbaugh?

By TW

September 18, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Midori@7:41 - John Riggins of a post. Thanks.

By Midori

September 18, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

thanks, TW - that’s a very powerful essay.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

Midori,

You don’t get it because there’s a reason you’re known as i r o Dim.

Asking for advice is a far cry from giving them a mission of command and control, which they are barred by Congress from having. One would think even a Senator would know that one.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

By Jason September 18, 2008 7:46 PM I don’t say it to be mean, but let’s get real. If John McCain had picked a black woman with 5 kids to be his running mate - one who had graduated college after 6 schools, one of which she had flunked out of, and who had admitted using drugs, as Palin has, and was leaving a pregnant 17 yr old daughter and disabled infant behind while she runs for national office, would anyone be cheering for her?

Yes, after all, you are cheering this guy:

We have discovered that his father was not just a deeply flawed individual but an abusive bigamist and an egomaniac, whose life was ruined not by racism or corruption but his own weaknesses. And, devastatingly, the testimony has come from Mr Obama’s own relatives and family friends.

A relative of Mr Obama says: “We told him[Barack] how his father would still go to Kezia and it was during these visits that she became pregnant with two more children. He also had two children with Ruth.” It is alleged that Ruth finally left him after he repeatedly flew into whisky-fuelled rages, beating her brutally.

My, oh my, don’t the Palins look absolutely charming when compared?

Shall I go on (obscenity self deleted.)

By Liar-loan McCain

September 18, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

Liar-loan McCain 08: yeah, I lied about a liar-loan. So what? I got millions now. You cant touch me.

Obama 08: America4America

By Paul

September 18, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

CJ 7:46

As I said, you haven’t been here long, else you’d know I laugh with and play off the comment of some of our more, how shall I put it, “progressive” bloggers. Ever heard the stories about Tip O Neal and Ronald Reagan having a drink at the end of the day? Didn’t mean they agreed.

By source material, I mean can you please provide a link to the episodes from which the two-second cuts were taken? Saying there’s a probability of something does not mean one is calling for it. A doctor saying it is likely a smoker will develop cancer does not imply the doctor wants the smoker to develop cancer.

But if that’s what counts for the reliable material on which you base your arguments I’m afraid we won’t have much of a discussion.

Ummm, I do not believe I ever said how I voted. I have stated my views on the war. You’ve obviously never read them. You may have surmised I don’t think much of either Obama or McCain regarding their plans to have US forces in the region long-term. In that, you would be correct.

Reps and Dems are equally to blame for agricultural subsidies. You haven’t read my thoughts on those, either, have you? I’m pretty much in favor of wiping them out. Too bad I can’t find an influential Democrat (or Republican) who agrees.

Prescription drug plan? What’s the matter, don’t you want poor old folks to have medicine?

Ummm, I think it was both Reps and Dems who voted for the budgets that got us where we are. And the Dem Congress hasn’t done much to put the brakes on.

Care to try again? Or too busy planning for the wars in Africa and the assassinations in Pakistan? ((grin))

By Eric

September 18, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Barracuda aka Praying Mantis is showing her true colors already!

She calls it the Palin-McCain ticket. Expect more “lapses” in the next weeks - she can’t help herself. She considers him dead already.

By Kevin

September 18, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

I’m a life time democrat party faithful, I voted for Clinton twice and president Gore, and I am deeply concerned with our party’s nominee this year.

I’ve heard many times in many different progressive journals that things like homosexuality and such are hereditary, being passed on naturally from father to son. Well what is worrying me, I firmly believe that traits such as these can be passed on to future generations, is that Obama’s father was a drunk and a bigamist.

I just wonder, when will these inevitable traits erupt in young Barry?

Can you imagine the embarrassment we will suffer when Obama starts beating Michelle and the kids in a drunken rage and starts a second family?

Isn’t the shame of the Clintons enough for one generation?

Please people, think this through, I know what you are telling the pollsters but please, when you get in the booth and close the curtain…….

By Paul

September 18, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 7:07

[[Care to guess which option Kerry and Kennedy used?]]

I know!! I know! They used the form that said they owed the most taxes!! Then they doubled the amount owed and paid that ‘cause they’re fair and really really really are not selfish and they care for people!!!

Your 7:14

[[Obama’s notion that he can have the Joint Chiefs of Staff end a war.]]

Well, technically, I’d have to say as the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of staff is the principal military advisor to the President, SecDef and NSC while the guy who fights the war in Iraq is the head of Central Command (a combatant command). So while the chain of command runs from the President to the SecDef to the commander of the combatant command, it is entirely conceivable that as the one who oftentimes transmits the President’s or SecDef’s instructions, it is conceivable that the Pres would say “Admiral Mullen, tell CentCom General Petraeus I want us done with Iraq yesterday. Get our forces out. “ It wouldn’t be a case of exercising command authority. Just transmitting the information. Admiral Mullen’s staff would be responsible for clearing the forces as General Petraeus draws them down.

It is conceivable. I’m still not convinced Sen Obama was familiar with the procedures or their implications when he said his comment, though.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

September 18, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

to CJ @ 6:23 PM

I guess we have a fundamental disagreement here. Most of the land owners I speak of are cash poor. They are in their 70’s and 80’s and have been working in most cases since they were kids. Many didn’t finish high school because they went to work to help support their families. In those days children got one pair of shoes a year if that. Barefoot in the warm months and new shoes in fall to last through the winter. Many of the men saw electricity and indoor plumbing for the first time when they went off to WWII. This was the typical life in rural GA for the generation before me. These people have worked hard all their lives and I think what happens to their land after they are gone should be up to them not the government. These people earned what they have just as you earned what you have.

So you are entitled to your opinion but I think you missed one of my points. The multi-millionaire types you speak of (Kennedys, Bushs, etc.), their children won’t pay these taxes because they will have everything sheltered. It’s those at the lower end of the spectrum who will pay.

By Andrew

September 18, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

The NATIONAL ENQUIRER’S exclusive ongoing investigation of GOP VP Nominee Sarah Palin will shock as much as the investigation of the John Edwards story. It goes far beyond a mere teen pregnancy crisis this week!

The Enquirer’s team of reporters has combed the Alaskan wilderness to discover the hidden truth about Gov. Palin’s family, which has become a central part of her political identity.

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that Sarah’s oldest son, Track, was addicted to the power drug OxyContin for nearly the past two years, snorting it, eating it, smoking it and even injecting it. And as Track, 19, heads to Iraq as part of the U.S. armed forces, Sarah and her husband Todd were powerless to stop his wild antics, detailed in the new issue of The ENQUIRER, which went on sale today.

THE ENQUIRER also has exclusive details about Track’s use of other drugs, including cocaine, and his involvement in a notorious local vandalism incident.

I’ve partied with him (Track) for years,” a source disclosed. “I’ve seen him snort cocaine, snort and smoke OxyContin, drink booze and smoke weed.”

The source also divulged the girls would do anything for Track and he’d use his local celebrity status to manipulate other guys “to get them to steal things he wanted.”

“He finally did what a lot of troubled kids here do,” the source divulged. “You join the military.”

And as Gov. Palin has billed the state of Alaska for various expenses related to her children, as reported by The Washington Post, The ENQUIRER’s investigation reveals that she was so incensed by 17-year-old Bristol’s pregnancy that she banished her daughter from the house.

Another family friend revealed pre-prego Bristol was as much of a hard partier as Track was.

“Bristol was a huge stoner and drinker. I’ve seen her smoke pot and get drunk and make out with so many guys. All the guys would brag that they just made out with Bristol.”

When Sarah found out the teen was pregnant by high schooler Levi Johnston, she was actually banished from the house. As part of the cover-up, Palin quickly transferred Bristol to another high school and made her move in with Sarah’s sister Heather 25 miles away!

And the ENQUIRER also learned that Levi Johnston, the baby mamma’s future wedded dada, who was glad handed by John McCain at the GOP Convention, isn’t too happy about his impending shotgun nuptials either.

“Levi got dragged out of the house to go to Minnesota,” Levi’s friend told The ENQUIRER. “Levi realizes he’s stuck being with Bristol because her mom is running for Vice President.”

The friend also confided that both Bristol and Levi “broke up a few times and they definitely messed around with other people.

Meanwhile, as members of the Palin family war viciously over “Trooper-Gate” and claims of Sarah’s extramarital affair have turned the political race into a chaotic arena of threats, denials and vicious attacks by political black ops, The ENQUIRER has discovered shocking new details about the red-hot affair scandal!

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

Paul,

He could also pick up the bat phone and call General Petraeus himself, although I guess it’s convenient to have someone in the middle to blame if/when things went awry.

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Just in case Biden didn’t offend 95% of the country quite enough by saying the tax cuts his boss was going to give them made them unpatriotic, he decided to insult their religion too.

Makes you wonder why the press ignores this crazy man.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Al Gore’s son arrested on drug charges 24-year-old was driving Prius at about 100 mph, authorities say Al Gore’s son was arrested early Wednesday on suspicion of possessing marijuana and prescription drugs after deputies pulled him over for speeding, authorities said. They found less than an ounce of marijuana along with Xanax, Valium, Vicodin and Adderall. -PMSNBC

By getalife

September 18, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Crisis meeting on Capital Hill with all long faces from the so called leaders.

Looks bad.

By Paul

September 18, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

Andrew 8:19

LOL! About five million more voting moms and dads can now identify with Palin!

And a bunch of lawyers have another case, given the addictive nature of Oxycontin wasn’t disclosed until after many patients got addicted.

That gets Palin even more people to identify with her “plight” and to take offense at those who ridicule her.

Rule of shooting: make sure the open end of the barrel is pointed at the target. Not at your foot.

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

To getalife

“private, I have seen many on these blogs pretending to be in the military, FBI, dem or gop, shrinks, rich, etc… Pardon me for not believing you but I am from the show me the proof state. You see, imaginations run wild on these blogs.”

I hear you. Ask Jay (jbookman@ajc.com). We’re on the opposite ends of the spectrum but he’ll vouch for me. Plus here’s another article.

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/051808/opinion_20080518027.shtml

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

I guess Jay broke off another tooth wondering why he ever started this blog, but we’re now awaiting a clean up in aisles 715 and 819.

By Mrs.Godzilla

September 18, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Putnam Investments 12B money market fund closes…..

By getalife

September 18, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

I need to hang out with Track, Al jr. and Bristol .

Drugs, sex and racing.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Paul: The National Enquirer for those enquiring progressive minds!

Liberals are so ridiculous.

By Margaret

September 18, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

The Republicans are now resorting to “push polling.” CNN, Time, and others have reported push polling in several states. Push polling is when a group pretending to be legitimate pollsters calls up people and spread rumors about a candidate in the form of questions, such as, “Would you vote for Obama if you knew he was really a member of the PLO?” or some other such false rumor. These fake pollsters have been targeting Jewish and non-Jewish voters, and some of these people have then been reporting it to the newspapers.

McCain used to be the victim of push polling by George W. Bush. Fake pollsters working for Bush used to call and ask people, “Would you vote for McCain if you knew he fathered a black child?” It is sad that now McCain might be using this tactic against someone else. Push polling is a dirty tactic, and should be illegal. No wonder the polls are showing McCain so close to Obama. This is an extremely dirty and lowly tactic and must be exposed.

By Just_Me

September 18, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

I was actually selected for a poll today…and YES….I voiced my strong preference for Obama/Biden!

St. Sarah of the Tundra, patron saint of Revisionist History can’t keep from telling lies—about simple, trivial thngs.,..makes me wonder, what in hell she would do if her “Palin and McCain administration” happens.

Thankfully, it looks as if the bloom is off the rose, shall we say, and people are becoming less enamored of this “novelty act.”

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

I didn’t know Oblahma was in the PLO.

Geez, I sure am glad he isn’t my candidate.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Quite the resume private.

Keep an eye on that “AJC/DNC Management” whacko.

He goes off sometimes.

BTW, all my drugs are legally prescribed and never cheat on taxes or threaten politicians.

By Midori

September 18, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

Andy: and?

your point?

want me to post more to prove your non point @ 8:25??

there’s a really neat pic of the bush twin sprawled and passed out on the floor with her legs wide open.

would that do?

By Paul

September 18, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 8:23

Hey, at least give me credit for trying!

AJC/DNC

Shame of it is, how often Enquirer scoops the mainstream media. Must be because, like with the Edwards story, they just don’t have the resources to pursue every lead…

I kinda think each morning should start off with a Youtube link of Sen Obama strongly stating families, especially children, are off limits.

Which leads me to the question I get so tired of asking:

If Sen Obama can’t persuade his most ardent supporters to change, why should we believe voting for him will cause anything else to change?

Pleasant evening, all -

By BDAtlanta

September 18, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Mgmt,

Where did you go to elementary school? I’m totally amazed that you can write a complete sentence with such utter lack of knowledge. You amaze me.

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

To getalife

Good for you. Keep it that way ….. :o)

Didn’t you like the article ?

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

I r o diM: Whatever, bring it on.

The media was all hush hush about al-Gore’s kid, AS THEY SHOULD BE, why do you think I posted that, huh, dearie?

You give cover to your people but then you salivate like wild animals over other people’s families.

We all know you are sick, don’t worry.

By LBC

September 18, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

nonmanagement, before you get all mad and stuff tonight, ask your mommy to nurse you and rock you to sleep. Go to dreamland and when you wake up in the morning,

ALL THE DEMOCRATS WILL STILL BE HERE!!!!!!

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

Does mommy do it for you, LBC?

Weirdo.

~~~~~

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc., which today agreed to buy Constellation Energy Group Inc., is increasing the pace of deals as debt markets freeze up and stocks fall.

The deal to pay $4.7 billion for Constellation is Buffett’s eighth acquisition announced since October, compared with six in the prior 12 months, when the largest was a $350 million purchase of an underwear and pajama company.

O.K. pinkos, here’s your chance to say that Buffet is crazy for putting his trust and $$$$ into the American economy.

I mean really, after all, we are doomed, aren’t we?

Suck (expletive self deleted)

By Midori

September 18, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

LOL,

On second thought, Andy, I’m siding with BD Atlanta.

Your mind is one giant garbage dump.

It’s not gonna be a pretty sight when you finally blow.

POOF

By getalife

September 18, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Well “Corporal”,

I am no security expert like you but I am pro gun due to the massive amount of unhinged wingnuts like Cho in our society.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

RW: I meant to reply earlier but I got distracted, yes, that broken tooth revelation made me cringe, even though the dude has it out for me in the most major way, I sort of felt pity for him.

Sort of.

I truly believe that God put teeth in our heads to remind us that there is indeed a hell, if we should decide to be “progressives” or some such other sin, that is.

By TW

September 18, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

RW - Wouldn’t it make sense for us to hold our evaluation of the Surge until after the Sunni have been off our ‘payroll’ for a spell? Seems to me that both Obama and McCain might hold all thoughts on how to proceed until then.

By Just_Me

September 18, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

BDAtl and Midori Please DON’T blame “ajc’s” insanity on his elementary schooling.

We elementary school teachers already shoulder enough blame for stuff that is out of our control.

;-> Let’s just make an assumption-and say it is either genetic or caused by enviornmental influences…..

;-)

Over and out-the husband’s arrived home from work! :-)))

By Just_Me

September 18, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Careful, “AJC,” You almost showed a glimpse of a sense of humor there……and compassion—oh yes, compassion..

but then it went away….like a bad dream.

By Frederick Douglass

September 18, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

In a prepared statement released to the Anchorage Daily News, Sarah Palin was quoted as saying ” If I am blessed with the opportunity to be John McCain’s vice president, I will appoint Brad Hanson as secretary of state,and I don’t care what John thinks about the choice”. Hanson, a former hockey coach, and snowmobile salesman, has reportedly seen Russia from land in Alaska while in the company of Palin.

By Country Mouse

September 18, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

There is a lot of unnecessary hyperbole being thrown in both directions by the bloggers on this site. If your mind is made up, you are not going to convince anybody to join your point of view and it is very unlikely anyone is going to convince you to abandon your point of view. If you are looking to make up your mind, you need to ask yourself only one question: If you believe in the philosophy “From each according to his ability; to each according to his need” and you further believe it is the role of the Federal government to redistribute wealth in accordance with that philosophy (both beliefs shared by Jay Bookman), then vote for Barack Obama. If you do not share those beliefs, vote for John McCain.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 18, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

JM: I didn’t say anything about your husband showing up so late “from work” did I?

You have no idea how cuddly and sweet I am.

By Midori

September 18, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Just Me: perhaps he was dropped on his head when he was a baby.

he was the ball during a game.

hey - NOW we see why the wingnuts wanted to privatize social security.

greedy, heartless, unscrupulous b*******.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

A little left over business.

Here’s the video of Michelle Obama taking her latest potshot at Sarah’Cuda

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this

RW - Wouldn’t it make sense for us to hold our evaluation of the Surge—By TW

Do you ever read through and try to figure where a question like that comes from?

TW, I haven’t a clue what you’re specifically referencing or if you meant to address that to someone else, but I would say it’s always wise to evaluate conditions on the ground. Obama believes (or at least did until he started trying to finish his waffles) in a strict timetable for withdrawal that wasn’t based on conditions at all.

By HeySoose

September 18, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

Gore AND Kerry both were leading at this time, too, in 2000 & 2004. Good Luck, Messiah.

By HeySoose

September 18, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Midori insinuating others, especially those that don’t believe what Midori believes, are stupid. Hahahaha…talk about the ignorant pot calling the kettle black.

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

To getalife

Well, that’s great to hear !

Marines - standby to repel boarders!

By TW

September 18, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

RW - you seem very tight. I merely thought you might have some insight. Instead, you’ve totally partisaned my non partisan question. Yes, Obama is definate on the timetable, as much as McCain is adamant the surge worked - case closed. I was merely suggesting that for the sake of what is best for our situation, both ought wait to see of the situation holds once the Sunni have been off the payroll.

I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time with the reality of your Jerry Springer ticket settling in around you this week, but do try to lighten up - for the sake of reason, if no other.

By DKP

September 18, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

The Republicans save their government hand-outs for their corporate millionaire buddies, such as yesterday’s $85 BILLION purchase of AIG. Even a Republican rep from California was quoted in The Hill as saying: “I have a problem with privatizing profits but socializing losses.” That GOP hand-out alone rivals anything the Dems have floated with regard to health care coverage. I HATE hypocrites, and spin-master Republicans and their ignorant minions are the biggest hypocrites of all.

By getalife

September 18, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

Hell Corporal,

Marines rule. The best of the best.

My Father fought with Patton at the Battle of the Bulge.

He left me some cool stuff and pictures.

By Del

September 18, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this

Let’s give a big hand for Jay. His relentless attacks on John McCain and Sara Palin have turned apparent defeat into victory. Oh, that’s right jay doesn’t have any national presence, so I guess jay only has a limited following of the few who love his left wing blog here in Atlanta. Sorry jay you just can”t seem to make it nationally as a left wing hack pretending to be a journalist. Well keep on pretending that you’re big time in the media, your little following will stil pamper your self illusion. Talk about stuck on stupid.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

TW,

My apologies if I misunderstood a simple question for a remark referencing something I had posted.

I don’t recall mentioning the surge or whether or not it worked so your question seemed a little out of place.

If we can pay for world peace then maybe it’s not all bad, but haven’t the people on your side of the political divide been saying we as a country are only about a dollar a month better off than Obambi’s hut dwelling brother?

Have fun with your tight/lighten up advice. I could debate you 24/7 and you couldn’t rattle me on your best moment. Feel free to try though….or at least as far as Jay’s teeth will permit.

By obamasucks

September 18, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Guess its time to break open the champagne at the AJC. For the last few weeks while McCain was in the lead there were no headlines to be found. Sorry to tell you Jay but Obama is trouble in several key states. Hell he is only up by 5 points in NEW YORK, one of the most liberal states in the country. Just don’t jump off a building the day after Obama Loses 35 states ok?

By TW

September 18, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

RW - lol….I will assume you were smiling when you suggested your efforts here constitute ‘debate’ skills in any way, shape or form…lol…

By Sic'em Sarah

September 18, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

Well Jay, I guess like Chris Matthews you got a thrill up your leg…

By fearless fosdik

September 18, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

And the beat goes on!

Today, Palin referred to the McCain/Palin ticket…As the Palin/McCain ticket…Wonder what John thought of that?

McCain says if he was president he would fire SEC chief Chris Cox…Unfortunately for McCain, HE can’t FIRE the SEC Chief!

EVEN if he was President .. He cannot fire the SEC chief!

McCain for all his blustering about his foreign policy credentials (you know the guy who doesn’t know the difference between the sunni and s**) or the guy who doesn’t know that Czechoslovakia hasn’t been around for 12 years. Or does not know that Pakistan and Iraq do not share a border. Yeah that foreign policy guru! MCCAIN!!!!!

But the hits keep coming .. Today John McCain the self proclaimed foreign policy GURU, when asked whether he would meet with the Prime Minister of Spain began babbling about LATIN AMERICA!

Last time I looked Spain was in EUROPE!

But, Sarah can still view Russia from her front door step….So we are in the hands of wise foreign policy experts!

THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND!

By Midori

September 18, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this

look at that poor, misguided guy with the very clever and imaginative user name at 10:21.

that does it. we’re doomed. completely and utterly DOOMED

I mean, anyone who can come up with a spiffy name like that can be wrong about anything?

heaven forbid!!!

I’m putting my volvo, latte machine and year’s supply of brie up for sale pronto!!!! looks like I’m gonna need the money.

oh thank you, honorable soothsayer. you have indeed saved the day!!!

By getalife

September 18, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

Looks like they are going to ban short trading like England.

Then, they finally went to Congress to hammer out another 1 trillion bail out.

C Span will be entertaining.

The gop are already howling about Socialism.

Caught this one ranting today

Yum.

By Midori

September 18, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

however, Fearless, if elected Obama is going to have the Joint Chiefs of Staff stop the war.

So that, of course, cancels out any and all gaffes made by McCain.

By "The Corporal"

September 18, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

To getalife

101st Airborne and the 10th Armored Divisions! Ooo Rah!

I wish we had a few more Pattons around today. By the time most generals today get that high they have become politicized to protect/enhance their career.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

getalife,

The debate has moved upstairs and the topic is partially your short trading point. Although it’s mostly Jay whining about Reagan for the four billionth time.

See you there.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 19, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this

Only unrepentant Republinaziz would want a continuation of the disgrace we’ve been subjected to for the past eight years! The war in Afghanistan is being lost, the war in Iraq is in neutral and we’ve opened a new theatre in Pakistan. The wealth of the United States is slipping away at an alarming rate and we continue to spend billions in Iraq and Afghanistan every month. Here at home the economy has crumbled due to the greed, avarice and outright thievery encouraged by George W. Hitler. Our civil, Constitutional rights are being usurped and rendered null by the criminal regime sworn to uphold it. The George W. Hitler regime has lied to the nation and to the world. It is responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of individuals. It has manufactured evidence to justify its brutal attack upon Iraq. It has engaged in torture in violation of law and common decency. It has freed those convicted of crimes in the furtherance of the goals of the Reich. You satisfied? Want some more? Well, that’s what’s in store if McStupid and Firm Teats are elected. Don’t let it happen!

By AJC/DNC Management

September 19, 2008 5:33 AM | Link to this

The race in Georgia remains fierce, Barack Obama’s second-in-command said Thursday, as the Democrats here sought to tie the sudden and volatile national economic crisis to their Republican opponent.-Urinal/DNC

So why did the Oblahma kkkampaign bail out of the state?

Oh yeah, they left the AJC behind, I forgot, nevermind.

Good luck with that 16 point deficit.

By Roooosss

September 19, 2008 5:40 AM | Link to this

George Bush is bad for US McCain will be even worse People will soon realize.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 19, 2008 5:44 AM | Link to this

Believe it or not, entering the final quarter of the eighth year of the George W. Bush presidency, Republicans are ascending in popularity, Politico.com reported yesterday. Half of registered voters and half of independent voters have a favorable opinion of the GOP, according to a new poll from the Pew Center for the People and the Press. Democrats hold a slight edge in favorability among registered voters (55 percent to 50 percent), but they are statistically tied with Republicans among independent voters (Republicans 50 percent, Democrats 49 percent.)

Once voters start paying attention, the effects of goony propaganda are quickly minimized.

And as I see it, drill, baby, drill is paying off big time.

By Bonedaddy

September 19, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this

McCain ahead by 27 electoral votes. The ones that count. [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080917145413.htm]. Might want to rub your poll again Jay.

By Steve

September 19, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this

CNN is reporting that Obama is running more negative adds than McCain in the first week since the convention. 77% to 56%.

Why isn’t Bookman reporting on that.

By hotlanta

September 19, 2008 7:48 AM | Link to this

Track, Trig, Willow and Bristol. Need I say more.

By hotlanta

September 19, 2008 7:48 AM | Link to this

Track, Trig, Willow and Bristol. Need I say more.

By misterearl

September 19, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

It’s The Economy

McCain, who told the Wall Street Journal in March that “I’m always for less regulation,” now asks voters to believe he will be a champion of tough, unblinking oversight. He’s shocked and outraged that Wall Street’s preening Masters of the Universe threw a drunken toga party and smashed all the furniture — but he helped buy the beer and told the cops to look the other way.

Here’s something that really ought to grab everyone’s attention: McCain supports George W. Bush’s idea of channeling at least some Social Security funds into “personal accounts” that individuals would invest on Wall Street. Some of that money would have been entrusted to firms such as Bear Stearns (failed), Lehman Brothers (failed) and Merrill Lynch (sold at a fire sale). Imagine what this crisis would be like if Americans’ Social Security benefits were evaporating along with their housing values and their 401(k) accounts.

This is the man who’s going to reform the economy?

  • Washington Post

By Whitney

September 19, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

To the ones who are being such crybabies about this blog: In case you’ve forgotten, it’s Jay’s. He can run it any way he wants.

If you don’t like it, LEAVE!

By scootertw

September 19, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Jay, you’re more worthless to the AJC than Obomber is to America and that’s saying a lot.

By GaLiberal

September 19, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Jay: These weekly polls mean nothing. Obama up by 5, down by 3, up by 4 is just random noise in the system. What I would like to see is a state-by-state breakdown and what that means in electoral votes. The popular vote isn’t what elects presidents as we saw in 2000 (other than the election was thrown by the FL Rethuglicons who illegally removed thousands of qualified people from voter registrations and tampered with the voting machines). Obama must carry OH or PA to win, but there are enough closet bigots in these states to put McCain in the White House.

By Obomber

September 19, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Too bad your hero THUG doesn’t have anything between his BIG EARS.

By GaLiberal

September 19, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

I like men and I would love to smell Obomba’s underwear after a HARD workout

By ButtHead

September 19, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Obama supporters are living proof that the school system has failed.

By Bruce

September 19, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Obomba Hussein is wanting to remove the policies of Bush, that have kept our country free of terrorism since 9/11. All it takes is ONE successful attempt from the terrorists. Bush hasn’t been the greatest POTUS, but he has kept us SAFE. Put Obomba in power and the terrorists will be in power.

By Socialism

September 19, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Paying more/higher taxes (by a select few) is PATRIOTIC — I think NOT, it’s wealth re-distribution and socialism!!!

This is what we can expect with Obaman and Biden.

By Earl

September 19, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Many of the white people claiming to be for Obama will not vote for him on election day. They claim to be Obama supporters like it’s a fashion statement. It won’t pan out come election day. Wait until the debates. Hairplug Joe will be a disaster and it’s become glaringly obvious that Obama can’t articulate a sentence unless it’s scripted and no one sure as hell will vote Obama because his horseface ugly wife is cute. McCain for the sane 2008.

By zeke

September 19, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

What a crock! You only look at a biased poll to begin with! There are polls showing McCain up by almost double digit margins! The Republican VP candidate is 100% more qualified than the liberal democrat candidate for President! GO FIGURE!

By GaLiberal

September 19, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Some Rethuglicon bootlicker posted the following: By GaLiberal@September 19, 2008 9:05 AM

I like men and I would love to smell Obomba’s underwear after a HARD workout

That say that impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you. I’ll bet you’re also cross-dresser and like to impersonate women too. You probably have closet full of stiletto high-heels.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And the impersonator is living proof.

By GaLiberal

September 19, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Some Rethuglicon bootlicker posted the following: By GaLiberal@September 19, 2008 9:05 AM

I like men and I would love to smell Obomba’s underwear after a HARD workout

They say that impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you. I’ll bet you’re also cross-dresser and like to impersonate women too. You probably have closet full of stiletto high-heels.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And this impersonator is living proof.

By GaLiberal

September 19, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

ButtHead said: Obama supporters are living proof that the school system has failed.

If that’s true, then McCain supporters are living proof that inbreeding leads to mentally-defective offspring. I’ll bet ButtHead’s kids (if he has any) call him UncleDaddy or maybe GrandpaDaddy. Incest is best; keeping it in the family.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And ButtHead is living proof.

By tom

September 19, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

McCain: Just like Bush, only more feeble

By Alan Moree

September 19, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

What, exactly, is Obama’s platform? What is his “plan?” All I’ve heard come out of his mouth is the word, “change.” Change what, disembowel our defeneses, tax the upper middle class into oblivion? Robin Hood….take from the rich and give to the poor? It seems that he’ll take my hard-earned money and give it to fund his social programs (i.e., to those who have never worked and have no intentions of ever working). Obama scares the begeebbers out of me!

By bill

September 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

George Bush: Keeping us safe since 9-11, the most deadly terror attack in US history. Oh wait, that one counts? S@#T! Nevermind.

“Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.” Man I wish Dubya had been able to read something more sophisticated than “My Pet Goat.”

By tcoach

September 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Yes Bill and I wish President Clinton would have allowed the air strike to kill Bin Laden when Clinton was given the information as to Bin Ladin exact whereabouts. But neither Bush nor Clinton are running for office so I guess it does not matter.

By It is my money

September 19, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Wealth distribution = bail out of wall street and financal institutions. The repub’s have been guilty of this for years, remember the S&L stuff??

By atlsitcom

September 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Obama Christ Superstar celebrity status will take you far…

please if he is so in touch with the “american” people he sure didnt show it with his Superstar shindig… his pixy dust wont save you when he raises taxes…

By chris

September 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Attention GA Conservatives: Obama will not raise your taxes. Stop being ignorant and gullible. Do 2 second’s worth of research and you will know that he would only raise taxes on the richest of the rich (e.g. not you). Obama might raise “7 houses” John McCain’s taxes, but he will lower yours.

Proof

By atlsitcom

September 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

and what is rich?? there chris? under 55,000 above, where does your Christ draw the line, so the Hollywood elites will pay more?

By chris

September 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Well atlsitcom, according to the link that I conveniently posted for you, the only people seeing an increase in taxes under Obama are those people making over $600,000 per year. Does that include you? I didn’t think so.

By What

September 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

chris @ 11:17 - and what is the Obama platform definition of “the richest of the rich”?

And why have a cutoff income at all? Sounds like a “fair” tax is the most appropriate!!!

By SMP

September 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

I already knew this but some may not.

While Republican Presidential candidate John McCain’s been ducking reported infidelity claims, there’s no denying his cheatin’ ways with first wife, Carol - the woman who waited for him when he was a P.O.W.

McCain met Carol, a former swimsuit model, when he was attending Annapolis during the 1950s. At the time, she was married to another cadet with whom she had two children.

After being freed by the Viet Cong, McCain discovered Carol had been disfigured in a serious car accident.

When he saw Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her.

Eventually he met Cindy and she was very wealthy. They married one month after his divorce.

The ex-Mrs. McCain, Carol, now 70, evidently has no complaints.

According to Britain’s Daily Mail, Johnny Mac agreed to pay for Carol’s medical care for the rest of her life — in exchange for a divorce.

By Hmmmmm

September 19, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

chris….Please. Every Liberal Democrat tells you ONE thing and does ANOTHER! Every democratic Presidential candidate has LIED to the American public! Take your own advice and do the research. Good grief, YOU stop being IGNORANT and GULLIBLE! Obama is going to raise taxes on the people who make this country GROW. I can’t fathom how so many people, mostly LIBERALS, think it’s OK to take from one and give to another…. It’s totally MIND BOGGLING.

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