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‘A liar lies to the people….’

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A liar looks ’em in the eye
And lies to a woman,
Lies to a man, a pal, a child, a fool.
And he is an old liar; we know him many years back.

A liar lies to nations.
A liar lies to the people.
A liar takes the blood of the people
And drinks this blood with a laugh and a lie,
A laugh in his neck,
A lie in his mouth.
And this liar is an old one; we know him many years….

— Carl Sandburg

Sarah Palin’s foreign policy credentials may be pretty thin, but at least they’re bolstered by the fact that as governor, she spent some time in Iraq visiting members of the Alaska National Guard.

What’s that?

Oh. Well, the Boston Globe now reports that Palin never visited Iraq, that the closest she got was the Iraq-Kuwait border, and from there she could see INTO Iraq. Kind of like being a Russia expert because you can see it from a couple of Alaskan islands.

But at least Palin “knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America,” according to John McCain. As Palin herself says, and as McCain repeats, she comes from Alaska, which provides 20 percent of the nation’s domestic energy.

What’s that?

Oh. Factcheck.org says “Alaska’s share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.” But hey, what does the Energy Information Administration know co mpared to the person who “knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.”

Well, at least the McCain/Palin ticket is drawing a lot of folks to rallies. According to Bloomberg news, “McCain aide Kimmie Lipscomb told reporters on Sept. 10 that an outdoor rally in Fairfax City, Virginia, drew 23,000 people, attributing the crowd estimate to a fire marshal.”

What’s that?

Oh. Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson now says his office did not supply that number to the campaign and could not confirm it. Independent estimates had put the number at 8,000.

Oh, well, at least they did draw 10,000 people to the Consol Energy Arena in Washington, Pennsylvania. That must be a solid number, because the McCain camp says it came from the Secret Service, based on the number of people who passed through magnetometers.

What’s that?

Oh. “We didn’t provide any numbers to the campaign,” Malcolm Wiley, a spokesman for the Secret Service, told Bloomberg, saying he could neither confirm nor deny the crowd estimate.

Well, who cares about that stuff. The Obama campaign shouldn’t be picking on Palin anyway. In fact, the McCain-Palin campaign has released a new TV ad that pointing out that Obama is being “disrespectful” toward Palin.

What’s that?

Oh. According to Factcheck, the ad “distorts quotes from the Obama campaign. It takes words out of context to make it sound as though the Democratic ticket is belittling Palin.” For example:

“The ad says ‘they said she was doing ‘what she was told’.’ But the Obama adviser who’s being quoted didn’t accuse Palin of meekly following orders. What he actually said is that she made a false claim about Obama’s legislative record and added, “maybe that’s what she was told.”

Oh, and Palin is back to lying again about the Bridge to Nowhere, falsely claiming against overwhelming documentary evidence that “I told Congress thanks but no thanks to that Bridge to Nowhere,” as she said in a speech in Nevada this weekend.

“A liar lies to nations.
A liar lies to the people.
A liar takes the blood of the people”

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By Just_me

September 14, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

…and yet, the dumbed-down American public buys this, and eats it up….

….what is WRONG with the people in this country, who choose to select leaders based on ‘personality?’ They did that the last two elections…and boy, aren’t WE in great shape?

By "The Corporal"

September 14, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

…….. and slick Willy Clinton was the BEST OF THE BEST yet millions laud him as a great President. Based on that I guess there’s great potential for a McCain/Palin administration. Can’t wait.

By Stephen S.

September 14, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Mr. Bookman.

By "The Corporal"

September 14, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Hey Jay - you forgot this one

“LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE” an old playground ditty.

I guess that’s why “Slick Willy” took his off - in the Oval Office and then lied to the entire nation about it.

By FrankLeeDarling

September 14, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Good work Jay. keep it up. The only way to combat the lies is to confront them head on.

Lets not forget that Pallin’s foreign policy includes the belief that the U.S military is doing god’s work

By RW-(the original)

September 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Jay,

CNN also reported that “outrageous lie” about Sarah Palin not visiting Iraq. The problem with the outrage is that she said Kuwait and Germany, not Iraq.

By COl. A.M.Khajawall [Ret]

September 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Dear concerned citizens of America and mass media of the U.S.A.

As a concerned disabled American Veteran and American citizen, I consider it my duty and responsibility to address the following critical issues facing the voters of our Greatgrand nation, the United States of America [USA].

  • Does the joint ticket have a calm, cool, and collected ” temper and impulse” [Presidential Temperament]?
  • Does each ticket have sound and sustained “Judgment and Caliber”?
  • Does each ticket have a “presidential depth and degree” in regard to their purpose, policies, and positions?
  • Does each ticket have adequate, “understanding and knowledge” of workings around Washington”?
  • Does each ticket have enough “vigor, wisdom and Vision” for the future of our beloved Great-grand Nation?
  • Does each ticket possess enough joint foreign policy experience and exposure based on “American Values, Virtues, Vastness, and strong soul”?
  • Do their campaign talk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity, and impulsivity? [Danger to country and national security].
  • Does the ticket keep country or politics first? [McCain stole Obama’s change and is running with it.]
  • Does the ticket move us closer to Culture Divide and war[ Disaster for our nation and economic challenges]. 10.Is the campaign surrounded, supported, and arrogated by divisive people, media, politicians, and blusters [Loss of Maverick’s as shown by his new shiftiness, shamelessness, and shallowness].
  • As a Independent registered voter I have decided to vote for the Obama-Biden ticket. I am sure they will protect our national security, strengths, stamina and soul as well as rebuild our nation from the bottom up in all areas of need. The OBAMA-BIDEN ticket will restore our global standing with the use of maximum, firm international diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated.

    Yours sincerely,

    COL. A.M. Khajawall [Ret] MD., Forensic psychiatrist, Colonel, US-AR / MC Combat Stress Control[Ret], Disabled American Veteran and Iraq Freedom team.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

    Whine, baby, whine!

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

    I got more than you do:

    Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

    Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

    Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - L IAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

    I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

    My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

    Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

    Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

    And that is just the beginning.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

    “I am the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyist” - LIAR- The record shows quite the opposite. According to USA Today, Obama’s campaign fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show. Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator’s presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama’s campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows.

    By Jackwolf

    September 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

    The real issue for me is the Republican Party has changed over the last 20-30 years and is no longer the party it used to be. The 2000 McCain would have agreed with the following quotes and if he had won could have led his party back towards the real ideals of the historical GOP. I am not so sure about the 2008 McCain, especially with his pick of Gov. Palin. Ron Paul seemed to be the only true conservative running and he was treated as a joke by a lot of Republicans. It is too bad John McCain didn’t win in 2000. He would have been good to have at the helm during those trying times. But his time has passed and after eight long years with President Bush at the helm, he and Gov. Palin are not the ones we need to lead us now.

    From a senate speech that Barry Goldwater made on September 16th, 1981.

    On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.”

    Excerpt from an essay by Barry Goldwater, July 28th 1994 Washington Post.

    When you say “radical right” today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.

    From Wall Street Journal article December 14, 2007, by Peggy Noonan, speech writer for Ronald Reagan,

    Christian conservatives have been rising, most recently, for 30 years in national politics, since they helped elect Jimmy Carter. They care about the religious faith of their leaders, and their interest is legitimate. Faith is a shaping force. Lincoln got grilled on it. But there is a sense in Iowa now that faith has been heightened as a determining factor in how to vote, that such things as executive ability, professional history, temperament, character, political philosophy and professed stands are secondary, tertiary. But they are not, and cannot be. They are central. Things seem to be getting out of kilter, with the emphasis shifting too far.

    I wonder if our old friend Ronald Reagan could rise in this party, this environment. Not a regular churchgoer, said he experienced God riding his horse at the ranch, divorced, relaxed about the faiths of his friends and aides, or about its absence. He was a believing Christian, but he spent his adulthood in relativist Hollywood, and had a father who belonged to what some saw, and even see, as the Catholic cult. I’m just not sure he’d be pure enough to make it in this party. I’m not sure he’d be considered good enough.

    By Jackwolf

    September 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

    The real issue for me is the Republican Party has changed over the last 20-30 years and is no longer the party it used to be. The 2000 McCain would have agreed with the following quotes and if he had won could have led his party back towards the real ideals of the historical GOP. I am not so sure about the 2008 McCain, especially with his pick of Gov. Palin. Ron Paul seemed to be the only true conservative running and he was treated as a joke by a lot of Republicans. It is too bad John McCain didn’t win in 2000. He would have been good to have at the helm during those trying times. But his time has passed and after eight long years with President Bush at the helm, he and Gov. Palin are not the ones we need to lead us now.

    From a senate speech that Barry Goldwater made on September 16th, 1981.

    On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.”

    Excerpt from an essay by Barry Goldwater, July 28th 1994 Washington Post.

    When you say “radical right” today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.

    From Wall Street Journal article December 14, 2007, by Peggy Noonan, speech writer for Ronald Reagan,

    Christian conservatives have been rising, most recently, for 30 years in national politics, since they helped elect Jimmy Carter. They care about the religious faith of their leaders, and their interest is legitimate. Faith is a shaping force. Lincoln got grilled on it. But there is a sense in Iowa now that faith has been heightened as a determining factor in how to vote, that such things as executive ability, professional history, temperament, character, political philosophy and professed stands are secondary, tertiary. But they are not, and cannot be. They are central. Things seem to be getting out of kilter, with the emphasis shifting too far.

    I wonder if our old friend Ronald Reagan could rise in this party, this environment. Not a regular churchgoer, said he experienced God riding his horse at the ranch, divorced, relaxed about the faiths of his friends and aides, or about its absence. He was a believing Christian, but he spent his adulthood in relativist Hollywood, and had a father who belonged to what some saw, and even see, as the Catholic cult. I’m just not sure he’d be pure enough to make it in this party. I’m not sure he’d be considered good enough.

    By Bill Clinton

    September 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

    I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman!

    By Hillary Clinton

    September 14, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

    Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan Association? Whitewater? Records from my days at the Rose Law Firm? Hmmmmmmm …. I don’t recall

    By Dusty

    September 14, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

    So A liar lies to the people..

    I thought Bookman was talking about Obama or most likely, himself.

    But no…it is Palin and Palin and Palin

    Bookman takes so many inconclusive things and makes concrete conclusions from them. How many in a crowd are counted absolutely? A comment on the nearness of Russia to Alaska ends up being “expertise” according to Bookman. Energy equals just gas or gas and electicity or gas and coal and electricity..what is total and what is partial? Kuwait has long been the outpost for services to Iraq because it has a long adjoining border to Iraq and troops in the Iraqi war are stationed there. The bridge to nowhere was NEVER built with Federal funds but SHE DID IT according to Bookman.The biggest laugh is when the Dems say they were not talking about Palin and the pig and lipstick when Obama opined those words. Oh yeah!!

    Then the temerity of Bookman to blame his conjectural “lies” on FactChek.

    There was never a more ludicrous statement for Bookman to post* [the McCain ad]takes words out of context to make it sound as though they[Democrats] were belittling Palin.*

    Democrats ARE belittling Palin continuously and Bookman is their humble servant. He thinks Americans are so stupid they will not see what Democrats are doing. Americans know about fairness, Bookman, and you simply increase the indignation of fair people.

    Keep it up. It is interesting to watch you make a fool of yourself and AJC.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

    During his 12 years in politics, Sen. Barack Obama has received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted businessman, Tony Rezko and his associates, than he has publicly acknowledged, the Chicago Sun-Times has found.Seven months ago, Obama told the Sun-Times his “best estimate” was that Rezko raised “between $50,000 and $60,000″ during Obama’s political career.However, Obama has collected at least $168,308 from Rezko and his circle. Additionally, Obama also has taken in an unknown amount of money from people who attended fund-raising events hosted by Rezko since the mid-1990s. Everything you ever wanted to know about Obama and Rezko.

    By Ray

    September 14, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

    If the Annointed One doesn’t get back on message and quit dissing McCain’s VP choice, he is going to look like more of a fool than he already does. As Rove said, he is running against McCain, not McCain’s VP pick. He should be addressing the economy and energy problems, not lipstick jokes. The wheels are falling off the bus and potential Demo political candidates are distancing themselves from him. Wonder why? The independent Col in the above post might be voting for him but 58% of uncommitted white female voters have other ideas. Slick Willy, Edwards, Kerry and Gore all make this lady look like a saint.

    By collette

    September 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

    Thank you! Thank you for this article… Although a fan of Sen. McCain for years his campaign claims are sleazy, shameful and full of lies… Does McCain care about our country or is his drive for power so strong that he is only concerned with getting elected? I have more respect for the job of babysitter and I spent much more time interviewing the person I hired than McCain spent interviewing Sarah Palin… this text will be bolded But Hey! It’s only the presidency!

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

    And the wingnuts deflect to the Clintons.

    Try something new like hold up signs saying, “Stop lying Palying”.

    How about,”McLiar”.

    But they will keep disrespecting you, knowing you love it and they will keep lying.

    They know if they tell you the truth, they will lose.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

    In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCain has opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

    Since the GOP convention and his selection of the Alaska governor as his running mate, McCain has changed a months-long tie among independents into a 52 to 37 percent advantage. Support for McCain among self-described “conservative Democrats” has jumped 10 points, to 25 percent, signaling the shift among swing voters to McCain.

    Keep up the good work liberals.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

    Corporal:

    NO ONE DIED WHEN CLINTON LIED

    NO ONE DIED WHEN CLINTON LIED

    NO ONE DIED WHEN CLINTON LIED

    NO ONE DIED WHEN CLINTON LIED

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

    a gift for the corporal

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

    Here’s another one not to be too alarmed about: Obama is flat-out wrong when he frets on his campaign Web site that “the personal savings rate is now the lowest it’s been since the Great Depression.” The latest rate, for the second quarter of 2008, is 2.6 percent — higher than the 1.9 percent rate that prevailed in the last quarter of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

    What’s that?

    Patient zero in this epidemic is the Democratic candidate for president. As it would be for any challenger, it’s in his interest to portray the incumbent party’s economic performance in the grimmest possible terms. Barack Obama has frequently used the Depression exaggeration, including during a campaign speech in June, when he said that the “percentage of homes in foreclosure and late mortgage payments is the highest since the Great Depression.”

    According to the MBA, 6.4 percent of mortgages are delinquent to some extent, and 2.75 percent are in foreclosure. During the Great Depression, according to Wheelock’s research, more than 50 percent of home loans were in default.

    What’s that?

    And Obama’s infection by the Depression-exaggeration bug goes way back. His first outbreak came on Oct. 2, 2002, in his famous speech opposing the invasion of Iraq, delivered when he was an Illinois state senator. He said that the invasion was “the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from” a litany of economic troubles including “a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.”

    Quite an exaggeration. When state senator Obama made that remark, the Standard & Poor’s 500 had just dropped 11 percent for the month of September 2002. But stocks dropped twice that much in October 1987. Since the Great Depression, the stock market has had bigger one-month drops on four occasions.

    What’s that?

    “Turmoil” in the debt markets? Sure, but we’ve seen plenty worse. According to the FDIC, there have been a total of 13 bank failures in 2007 and so far into 2008. There were 15 in 1999-2000, the climax of the Obama-celebrated era of Clintonian prosperity.

    Whine, baby, whine!

    By Ray

    September 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

    Bookman,

    All of this rhetoric is useless. All of your comments about this lady don’t matter. Count up the electoral votes that the Annointed One needs to win. He needs to match what Kerry got (252) plus add 18 for a total of 270. Mr. Wonderful needs to win at least one of the states of Penn, VA, Ohio or Iowa, plus MI to have a chance. MI(17 electoral votes) is leaning toward McCain or it is so close that you can’t tell. Although Obama won in Iowa, it was Demos only who voted. Exit polls still said in Iowa that 10-12% of those polled said that they would have trouble voting for a black candidate, and these were Democrats, not Bible thumping, fanatical, Evangelical Jesus freaks. And it is doubtful that this is only happening in Iowa. Add Palin to the mix, rev up the ladies in this country who would love to see a lady close to the White House…. I don’t think the electorate really cares whether or not she can see Russia from her front door or if she fired a trooper for lasing his 10yr old son or whether or not she went to Iraq or to Kauwait. She probably got more votes in her run for the mayor of Wisella than Biden got in any of his four attempts at the presidency. And mainstream America rejected Biden in his bid for the presidency just as they are going to reject him for his bid for VP. What a selection!!! The Demos had it in the bag with Hillary. It was a walk in the park but those shots in the foot become larger as Nov 4th becomes closer. McGovern, Kerry, Edwards, Slick Willy, Dukakis(sp)….. the list goes on. When are you libs going to learn?

    By "The Corporal"

    September 14, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

    To Col. Kahjawall

    You have a big fancy military title but you should be ashamed.

    Corporal, Scout-Sniper - Vietnam

    To Midori

    1) Oh yes they did ! If I could only give you a classified briefing.

    2) What about the big lie he told about his draft status to keep himself out of the Army? I wonder if whoever was drafted in his place died?

    2) I could provide a long list of Bill’s lies but but Jay already keeps censoring the ones I send about Obama.

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

    “In case anyone was still wondering whether John McCain is running the sleaziest, most dishonest campaign in history, today Karl Rove — the man who held the previous record — said McCain’s ads have gone too far.”

    Spin that private.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

    opposed to the million Iraqi dead, and thousands of American dead and injured, Corporal?

    You should be ashamed of yourself.

    And you shouldn’t be allowed to post on the internet unsupervised, either.

    All you do is use the old “ABC” standby for people who can’t refute the cold hard facts: Always Blame Clinton

    I didn’t think it possible, but you become more disgusting in your lie-based reality as each day passes.

    What’s next? missing “w’s” on keyboards? empty coke cans left in offices? why don’t you try sticking to the conversation at hand? Last time I looked, Bill Clinton wasn’t running for either President or Vice President.

    Pathetic.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

    DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney says the party raised more than $17 million and has $17.5 million on hand, having spent more than $28 million last month, largely on the Democrats’ ground game.

    That cash figure is a fraction of the $110 million a Republican official says it has, which includes transfers of money McCain is no longer allowed to spend and money from state fundraising vehicles.

    Whine, babies, whine.

    By America loves liars and war mongers

    September 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

    McCain, The great liar, will be chosen as Americans love liars and war mongers.

    By @@

    September 14, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

    Damn Jay!!!!! You’re beginning to appear mentally deranged where Governor Palin is concerned. I’m becoming concerned for mental stability.

    Your sister could probably help you out with the behavior disorder……OCD?

    Anyhoo, since lies are your thang, here’s 67 from your candidate.

    The Truth VS. Barack Obama (full version)

    Have fun! And criminey………….

    Breathe Jay!

    B-r-e-a-t-h-e.

    I’m pulling back from your blog until you can get a grip. Wouldn’t wanna contribute to your breakdown.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

    al- Gitmo: You know, you pointing out that Karl Rove is honest is like thee most ultimate Karma.

    Can’t you libs see when you are getting gamed?

    bwa

    By LibsSuck

    September 14, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

    Notice a correlation between McCain/Palin rising poll numbers ever since Bookman, NY Times, etc have started their relentless attacks on Palin??? Keep it up Jay, with enemies like you, McCain doesn’t need any friends. How many blogs have Bookman done this past week on Palin—me thinks he has a secret crush on her. The coverage has gotten so ridiculous, that even if anything Bookman says is true, the American public won’t believe them b/c of the seemingly sexist “piling on” nature on an ordinary hockey mom most people seem to like.

    Incredible, we are witnessing a slow motion implosion of the Democrats in this election—-boy, it’s fun to watch!!!

    By Ray

    September 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

    Corporal, It was my privilege to operate nearly 1200 of the Marines of the 1st Marine Div at the 95th Evac Hosp in Da Nang in the north during 14 mos of a very confused year. I have always considered it an honor to have served my fellow soldiers in a very trying, difficult time. I, too, have an opinion about the status of this country and where it is headed but it is rooted in my love for the privilege of calling the greatest country in the world home. I would wonder where the Col in the above post served and with all his fancy titles, would wonder whether or not he became one with where he was as we were. I honor you for your service and hope that others do.

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

    Andy,

    I watched him spew that this morning and he looked jealous.

    There is a new king of lies and it is McLiar/Palying.

    Can you say blowback

    Now that is karma. You know women do not like to be lied to.

    By RW-(the original)

    September 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

    Are we really down to crowd size exaggerations and calling somebody for not saying they went somewhere they didn’t go? Desperation doesn’t even begin to describe this Democrat melt down.

    Saturday, Mr. Biden asserted Mr. Obama “made his mark literally from day one, reaching across the aisle to pass legislation to secure the world’s deadliest weapons,” a claim similar to one Mr. Obama made earlier in the campaign. Wednesday night, Mr. Biden was more expansive, claiming Mr. Obama was a leader “to pass a law that helps keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists.” This implied a big, important controversial measure, passed with difficulty after the intervention of an extraordinary leader.

    What???

    In reality, the Lugar-Obama Bill was passed on a voice vote on December 11, 2006. It was so routine, there was no recorded vote. The media didn’t consider it important or controversial. Neither the New York Times nor the Washington Post reported its Senate passage, though the Post ran a 798-word op-ed by Senators Lugar and Obama the week before it was approved. It was not the subject of a story on the CBS, ABC or NBC evening news—not when it passed, not when it was signed, not ever. No story about it appeared in Roll Call or The Hill, the daily newspapers that cover the minutiae of Congress. It drew only one squib in Congressional Quarterly—and that story didn’t mention Obama, just Lugar. The Bush administration supported it. The legislation required the administration to report to Congress within 180 days “on proliferation and interdiction assistance” to secure the mostly conventional weapons stocks littering the nations born from the collapsed Soviet empire. It created a new State Department office to support the Bush administration’s “Proliferation Security Initiative” aimed at interdicting weapons of mass destruction and conventional weaponry. And the bill authorized $110 million in funding. But this legislation didn’t require a profile in courage to co-sponsor or hard work and powerful persuasion to pass, as Mr. Biden implied.

    To be continued…..

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

    I r o diM: You reckon?

    ~~~~~

    Your brother alright?

    By RW-(the original)

    September 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

    Saturday, Biden proclaimed: “But I was proudest, I was proudest, when I watched him spontaneously focus the attention of the nation on the shameful neglect of America’s wounded warriors at Walter Reed Army Hospital.” The problem for Mr. Biden (and the object of his praise, Mr. Obama) is the problems at Walter Reed were revealed in articles in the Washington Post, starting February 18, 2007. Unless Mr. Obama writes for the Washington Post under the nom de media of Anne Hull or Dana Priest, he didn’t “spontaneously focus the attention of the nation.” The two reporters did. The legislation to correct the shortcomings emerged from a Senate committee Mr. Obama doesn’t serve on and he played no significant role in drafting or pushing it through the legislative. Mr. Obama is not the real hero of the Walter Reed turn-around, despite Mr. Biden’s extravagant claims.

    Like Mr. Biden, Michelle Obama’s speechwriter could not resist hyping her husband’s work. Monday night, Mrs. Obama talked about “what he’s done in the United States Senate, fighting to ensure that the men and women who serve this country are welcomed home not just with medals and parades, but with good jobs and benefits and health care—including mental health care.” This is an apparent reference to the Dignity For Wounded Warriors Act, a bill Mr. Obama introduced that never made it out of the Senate Armed Services Committee, despite its Democratic majority. Americans missed the spectacle of Mr. Obama “fighting to ensure” because he was missing for that particular battle. And if he was fighting, he must have been ineffectual because fellow Democrats didn’t think this bill was worth passing.

    So is taking credit for someone else’s work more or less egregious than possibly exaggerating the size of a crowd? If it’s crowd size they told a whopper in Germany.

    By sunshine and thunder

    September 14, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

    TO: JAY B - AJC/DNC

    It’s quite clear that Obama’s lies far outnumber McCain/Palin starting with the pledge to use public money and ending with his claim to not have known what kind of a preacher he was listening to.

    It’s also quite clear that Jay is a member of the editorial staff of a major (soon to be minor?) newsapaper and is coming across as one weird writer by spending all day in the mud looking for rocks to throw.

    Jay you’re grasping at straws and tilting at windmills. The really sad part is that there are people who believe you.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

    Yes, let’s talk about lies:

    Obama Says The U.S. Senate Banking Committee Is “My Committee.” Obama: “Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill…” (Obama Press Conference, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008)

    Obama Is Not A Member Of The U.S. Senate Committee On Banking, Housing, And Urban Affairs. (U.S. Senate Committee On Banking, Housing, And Urban Affairs Website, banking.senate.gov, Accessed 7/23/08)

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

    In June 2008, Obama Falsely Claimed His Father Served In World War II:

    Obama: “My father served in World War II, and when he came home, he got the services that he needed.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The NALEO Conference, Washington, DC, 6/28/08)

    What’s that?

    Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his “very existence” to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother.

    It is a touching story — but the key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified.

    Contrary to Obama’s claims in speeches in January at American University and in Selma last year, the Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama’s father. According to historical records and interviews with participants, the Kennedys were first approached for support for the program nearly a year later, in July 1960. The family responded with a $100,000 donation, most of which went to pay for a second airlift in September 1960.

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

    Yeah, how is your brother Midori?

    Galveston got hammered.

    By Taxpayer

    September 14, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

    Keep up the good work, Jay. I do enjoy seeing these Republicans squirm. They’re quite amusing.

    By JAY BOOKMAN

    September 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

    It’s not about crowd sizes, RW. Everyone can dispute those and it’s a game they play.

    It’s about specifically attributing YOUR crowd estimate to a knowledgable authority, when in fact that authority was silent. That is a calculated, knowing lie, a lie made with utter disregard for the truth.

    And Management, you can stop reposting those items, all of which have been posted here before. You’ve made your argument, such as it.

    By GOPs got to go

    September 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

    What’s the difference between a Hockey mom and a pittbull?

    Tha Pitt bull will just rip your throat out, the hockey mom will smile while she lies her face off.

    By Julie Alton

    September 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

    Why is the media so bias towards Obama? There is something very wrong in our society when the media selects a candidate as a favorite.
    Have we not learned from history where such blind worship leads?
    The dictators Hitler, Mussolini, Kim Jong Il all began as a cult of personality worship. The media for these dictators where slanted during their rise and then controlled after they assumed power. Obama is clearly following the same pattern. Obama and his wife have a horrendous history of evil and whenever facts of Obama’s infamous life is mentioned, the press ignores it. But for Hillary, McCain or Palin, if they so much as sneeze, they are mercilessly taken thought the ringer and insulted by the press relentlessly.
    Is this because we are afraid to criticize an African American or because some powers above are manipulating our society?
    - It is also interesting to note, that my Obama critical posting are often banned or removed by the mediators of the blogs or newspapers.
    Obama is not even elected, and Obama’s cult followers have already managed to implement restrictions on Freedom of Speech. What will happen to us after he is elected? He will teach our youth to be thugs like himself. And if you don’t know why I call him a thug, find out how he got elected as senator and look at all the ill associations he has hobnobbed with throughout his life. Remember when he gave the finger to Hillary on national TV and now calling Palin a pig.
    We have clearly become a society whose depth of thinking is equivalent to that of Britney Spears and we will pay for this lazy intelligence and lack of critical thinking skills with our country. We are setting the stage for an American Mussolini.

    By Stan

    September 14, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

    McCain’s publicized career accomplishment goes from POW to ????

    The reason McCain/Palin are attacking Obama with lies and distortions. Even the Republicans never mention any McCain’s accomplishments.

    It only takes a quick review of factcheck.org to see the substantially more McCain/Palin lies.

    McCain got a free pass from the media until he got so blatant the lies could no longer be ignored.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

    Now Kookman just told a lie, that 4:38 was a Washington Post article that was published today.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

    Getalife: still trying to get through.

    Houston has no power.

    I’ve emailed and called several times.

    Maybe tomorrow I’ll hear something from him.

    By BDAtlanta

    September 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

    Republicans, Face it, your team can’t get elected unless your leaders lie.

    You’ve been had for eight years and now you are falling for the same tricks again.

    You are either a pathetic party.

    By @@

    September 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

    Andy:

    When you type What’s that? you might want to attribute JAY BOOKMAN. The way he’s been behaving lately, he may file charges of plagiarism.

    Either that, or go with the simple What??? like RW.

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

    Yeah Andy,

    Just say Obama does it too.

    Nanananabooboo.

    By Taxpayer

    September 14, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

    I wanted to see some of these Republicans examining your comments, Jay, and proving them wrong. Instead, it’s more of the same. They cannot defend their guy so they attack the Democrat candidate. Classy and so, what’s the word….

    By Dennis

    September 14, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

    You want to see panic in action. Bookman worked all weekend attacking Palin. I love it.

    By Mike

    September 14, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

    Yes, Jay. All Republicans are liars and all Democrats tell the truth. And you aren’t a partisan, you are just an educated and objective observer who has discovered that, by some amazing coincidence, anyone who opposes his candidate is morally flawed.

    Do you ever stop consider how statistically unlikely it is that anyone who doesn’t share your incredibly narrow view of the world is a bad person? Do you have any intellectual honesty at all? Do you really think you are any different than the partisan hacks at Fox who demonize every liberal?

    The truth is that it is your brand of partisan garbage that is dividing the country. The politicians just know what a bunch of useful idiots you are and they play you like a violin at the annual saps convention. The country would be better off with more thoughtful and honest journalists instead of partisan hacks like you and Michael Savage.

    By Scott

    September 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

    … She probably got more votes in her run for the mayor of Wisella than Biden got in any of his four attempts at the presidency. … Not even close! She got 6,000 votes. Biden got at least 250,000.

    By RW-(the original)

    September 14, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

    Jay B,

    Do you have some evidence you held back the first time that either Sarah Palin, John McCain, or their immediate staffs said that the crowd size was confirmed by Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson?

    These ridiculous crowd size exaggerations are always supported by some fire or police official that wants to justify overtime and manpower. Usually a campaign or organization throws out a number and the official standing by says that sounds about right to me.

    How about for Malcolm Wiley?

    Or addressing the fact that Sarah Palin said she visited troops in Kuwait and Germany, yet you call her a liar for not going to Iraq? Even The Australian that picked up the story from the Boston Globe says she never said she had gone to Iraq.

    And I almost hate to bring up this last one since you’re so touchy about it, but the AP and the New York Times both credited Governor Palin for killing the bridge back in 2007 stories.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

    Andy,

    why are you so biligerent towards your host, with your childish name calling?

    Just what do you hope to accomplish with this?

    Additionally: McCain is not a war hero.

    Eisenhower was a war hero.

    Patton was a war hero.

    Bradley was a war hero.

    McCain’s plane was downed while he was dropping bombs safely from the air, was captured and imprisoned.

    that is not a war hero.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

    Look at the lib’s idiotic answer to the Swift Boat Veterans For The Truth, they got the Ship Of Fools With Their Torpedo Turned Around Backwards In It’s Tube:

    “The fight is over whose plan for change is real, whose is genuine. And we’re looking to put that in front of voters,” Hogue said. “When you look at McCain and [GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah] Palin’s ties to Big Oil, it doesn’t pass the laugh test that they are for change.”

    Gee, let’s see here, Alaska’s biggest industry is, um, gosh, I forget.

    Fire away morons.

    By "The Corporal"

    September 14, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

    To Midori

    Seriously, Mr., Mrs., Ms. or Miss Midori:

    Political issues aside, I think you have a pretty severe personality disorder and that debating is not good for you. I suggest you try to get some professional help.

    I wish you well …………..

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

    Taxpayer hit the nail on the head:

    I wanted to see some of these Republicans examining your comments, Jay, and proving them wrong. Instead, it’s more of the same. They cannot defend their guy so they attack the Democrat candidate. Classy and so, what’s the word….

    By Mike

    September 14, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

    “By Midori McCain’s plane was downed while he was dropping bombs safely from the air, was captured and imprisoned.

    that is not a war hero.”

    Hey Jay. Smart and thoughtful people like Midori agree with you on almost every issue.

    Does that scare you? It should. LOL

    By Wendell

    September 14, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

    When asked about Governor Palin’s national security experience, the McCain campaign informed us that she had visited foreign countries. Four of them: Germany, Kuwait, Iraq, and Ireland. However, shockingly, it turns out that they lied. She’s never been to Iraq, and her “visit” to Ireland consisted of a stop while her jet refueled.

    By that criteria, I’ve got more experience than she does. I lived in Kuwait for two years, I visited relatives in Ireland for a summer, I’ve lived in India and Switzerland and England, and I’ve been a tourist in a host of other places. I once spent a night in Finland during a trip layover (coming back to Atlanta from Russia.)

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

    Midori,

    Hope is okay. My brother is waiting to hear from his son and is having the same problem.

    He said the power should be up soon.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

    Gosh what a genius:

    By Scott September 14, 2008 6:29 PM … She probably got more votes in her run for the mayor of Wisella than Biden got in any of his four attempts at the presidency. … Not even close! She got 6,000 votes. Biden got at least 250,000.

    She got 114,697 votes in one puny little state while Hair Plug’s only got 250,000 in all 57 states of America.

    By Mike

    September 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

    Wendell -

    Please tell me about Bill Clinton’s foreign policy experience as of 92 or better yet Obama’s experience as of now.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

    al-Gitmo: You don’t even realize that you are giving props to Karl Rove, do you?

    I’m calling you out in your own best interest, you have a rep to look out for remember?

    And you get angry at me?

    Well, I never.

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

    private,

    Heed your own advice.

    I think RW is right about you.

    Vietnam messed with many heads.

    Seek help dude

    By Greg

    September 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

    First came the dot.com bubble… Then the housing bubble… Then the credit bubble… And now… wait for it… at long last – THE DISHONESTY BUBBLE!

    McSame thought wow, it worked for Cheney, it worked for Bush, and here I am with this impervious POW War Hero Maverick brand equity, surely I of all people can get away with all the lies I care to tell. And then – * POP *

    By BDAtlanta

    September 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

    I agree, McCain is no war hero. He saw less than 25 hours of combat before he was shot down and imprisoned for the rest of the war. He didn’t get a hero’s medal because he didn’t do anything heroic.

    Getting offered an early release because your dad is a Rear Admiral but turning the offer down…..what exactly is heroic about that?

    There were a lot of war heroes at the Republican Convention, but none of them were on the stage in prime time.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

    Corporal,

    Make a deal with you.

    Let’s both go get professional help, and let the expert(s) decide who is the delulsional loon, far divorced from reality.

    DEAL??

    There you go again (that Reagan line should give you tingles).

    Can’t debate the facts, so you go for the personal.

    I’ll light a candle for you tonight.

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

    Midori,

    Meant to say, Hope he is okay.

    Andy,

    Angry?

    Never.

    McCain’s camp said this about lying and Rove:

    “We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.”

    Rove is now media filter.

    Bwa.

    By Mike

    September 14, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

    “By BDAtlanta September 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this I agree, McCain is no war hero. He saw less than 25 hours of combat before he was shot down and imprisoned for the rest of the war. He didn’t get a hero’s medal because he didn’t do anything heroic.

    Getting offered an early release because your dad is a Rear Admiral but turning the offer down…..what exactly is heroic about that?”

    Typical classy liberal. You don’t have anything more meaningful to say about the guy beyond your petty, ankle biting attack. McCain is more of a man than you will ever be, despite your truly heroic blogging.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

    thank you Getalife :)

    By getalife "whiners"

    September 14, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

    Mike,

    I guess you missed President Clinton’s speech at the convention.

    It will answer your silly question.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    September 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

    Wow, al-Gitmo, a comfort food story from PMSNBC, I’m so impressed.

    By @@

    September 14, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

    Getalife:

    Karl Rove said that about BOTH candidates.

    When I first typed your name ^^^ up there, I left out the “f” by accident. Went back and corrected it so my post wouldn’t start out as “Getalie”.

    By Rhonda C.

    September 14, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

    I just remembered where I’ve seen Sarah Palin before.

    Monica Goodling.

    Yep, Sarah Palin looks in a mirror and sees Monica Goodling staring back at her.

    But would anyone even contemplate having Monica Goodling running for vice-president, a heartbeat away from being president?

    The Monica Goodling who broke law after law after law at the U.S. Justice Department, who abused the public trust by using her position at the Justice Department for personal and religious vendettas against other U.S. citizens, who then lied about what she had been doing?

    The same Monica Goodling who graduated from a fourth-rate law school, who got a high-level job at the Justice Department and immediately began to break her oath to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution from our nation’s enemies, both foreign and domestic…from someone like herself?

    The same Monica Goodling who decided that her religious beliefs and her religious “laws” trumped the “rule of law,” our nation’s laws, as established by our Constitution, with Monica Goodling implementing a religious litmus test for Justice Department job applicants, directly violating our Constitution?

    Oh. That Monica Goodling.

    Sarah Palin IS Monica Goodling.

    And if Palin gets to be vice-president, a heartbeat away from president, then there is no doubt in my mind that Palin will do as much damage to our nation, our Constitution, as Goodling did to our Justice Department, our Constitution…which in my view far exceeds the damage done and deaths incurred on 9/11 by an attack on our nation of right-wing religious fundamentalist fanatics.

    The al Qaeda terrorist attack on 9/11 was a hit-and-run event, while Palin, Goodling and so many other domestic religious fundamentalist fanatics are into a slow-motion, cancerous attack on our Constitution and the inherent liberties of all U.S. citizens, with the preeminent American liberty being the right to be free from tyranny, especially religious tyranny!!!

    I will definitely vote for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Neither one of the Democratic Party candidates strikes me as being a religioius fundamentalist fanatic, someone out to subvert our Constitution and establish a Taliban-like theocracy in America.

    Obama/Biden ‘08!!!

    By Mike

    September 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

    “By getalife “whiners” September 14, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this Mike,

    I guess you missed President Clinton’s speech at the convention.

    It will answer your silly question.”

    LOL. He gave a speech? That’s your slam dunk response? He gave a speech? That makes him qualified to be President, but the fact that Palin hasn’t made such a speech yet unqualified?

    Despite the wonderful speech written by his staff, Palin has just as much foreign policy experience as Clinton did. You just have different standard that are malleable to your partisan positions. Lame.

    Since you liberals suddenly care about experience, could you contrast Obama’s foreign policy experience with McCain’s?

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

    Mike,

    about as “classy” as the right wings attacks on John Kerry’s service, huh?

    you might want to move out of that glass house…..

    By Mike

    September 14, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

    “By Midori September 14, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this Mike,

    about as “classy” as the right wings attacks on John Kerry’s service, huh?

    you might want to move out of that glass house…..”

    I never attacked Kerry’s service and I disapprove of those who did. I seriously considered voting for him for a short while, as I voted for Clinton twice.

    Stop seeing the world in such silly bigoted terms . You don’t have to be a conservative to find your blather hateful and moronic. Your rhetoric is offensive and stupid, regardless of your political views. That’s why you and Bookman get along so well. You have a lot in common.

    By cheeba

    September 14, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

    You people are missing the point. This country is screwed no matter who wins the White House. Everyone in the US is in debt of some kind. Credit cards, Mortgages, car loans and the savings rate is the lowest since the great depression. One day things will go South very quickly. We’ve already seen major financial institutions failing and our standing in the world from health care, education to manufacturing is falling every year. Look to history, I’m sure people never though the great depression would happen either. And I don’t think the slacker generation is in any shape to handle another depression. Most teenagers are great at video games and calling / texting friends on cell phones, but would they go out and do manual labor if it came to it? Kids today don’t even know how to start a lawnmower because the lawn service does the job now. We’ve all created this mess, from the corruption in Washington to the values of greed and want we teach our children. With all the dirty political infighting I personally don’t think the US will make it in the future no matter who we elect.

    By Bud Wiser

    September 14, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

    “By Midori September 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this ….I didn’t think it possible, but you become more disgusting in your lie-based reality as each day passes. Last time I looked, Bill Clinton wasn’t running for either President or Vice President…..”

    Look in the mirror idiot every time you talk about George Bush in this years election, then read (if you can) what you wrote here.

    You stupid liberals can’t even sort out your own ignorance, and want everyone to believe what you say is true just because you say it. Go suck your toes.

    Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid

    By Ray

    September 14, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

    Rhonda C, “A taliban theocracy in America”….. don’t you think that that is a bit of a stretch? What makes you think that she could do such a thing, even if she wanted to? If believing in something else other than the sanctity of yourself makes you a member of the “Taliban”, we are in for some definite awakening in this country. JFK believed in the Pope but didn’t shove it down everyone’s throat because of his beliefs. Nixon was a devout Quaker and he didn’t develop a “Taliban theocracy”. What makes you think that Palin would do this…… or are these just words thrown out by a desperate lib who knows the sky is falling?

    By Jason

    September 14, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

    It seems the McCain/Palin campaign might even be lying about the “large crowds” the devious duo was drawing according to RAWSTORY/Bloomberg. The campaign claimed they were getting the figures from the secret service and in one case from a fire marshall in Va. In both cases the sources sited denied giving the McCain campaign any attendance figures.

    McCain is known to like to gamble and he seems to have doubled down in running a blatantly dishonest campaign.

    It’s simple, if close to half the voters are low information (a polite way of saying dumb or ignorant) or racist, the GOP can purge thousands of voters, flip some votes in a swing state and pull out a win. On the other hand, if McCain runs an honest campaign he doesn’t have a chance.

    By Suzanne

    September 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

    Maybe it’s not lying. As I watch McCain … his behavior is reminiscent of what I witnessed in my Dad, as he lost his intellect to (undiagnosed) Alzheimers. My 84-year-old mother, on the other hand, is extremely sharp. Occasionally she will “lose” a word or a fact–but she doesn’t just substitute ANY word or fact to fill the void. Beyond early stages of dementia, my Dad could still “carry on a conversation” if all he had to do was nod agreeably, and occasionally interject some key word or phrase (sometimes inappropriate to the conversation) to give the appearance of attentiveness and participation. Didn’t we see the same thing with “The Great Communicator”? Only thing is … McCain is angry, seems to have impulse-control issues, and primitive survival techniques–all in all, much scarier than Reagan. And Second-Amendment Sarah does not inspire confidence as a ‘back-up.’

    By Melanie T

    September 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

    If you had a female surgeon you would expect her to have held a a scalpel prior to your pending surgery.

    If you had a female lawyer you would expect her to have been in a courtroom previous to your pending lawsuit.

    If you had a female auto mechanic you would expect her to have held a socket wrench before.

    There would be nothing sexist in any of those expectations.

    It is not unreasonable to expect a candidate for Vice President of the United States have minimal qualifications for the job.

    Sarah Palin does not. There is nothing sexist about the expectation that she should have.

    Choosing her was a complete act of cynicism.

    By Jim Davis

    September 14, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

    The simple reason this election is this close is that compared to the rest of the world here in the USA we have a larger proportion of hero-worshipers, who are either stupid and idiotic, or just plain biased due to obvious reasons, which are irrational to sensible minds.

    Top of the rank among those obvious reasons is racism, still very much prevalent in this country, and the next to the top is hatred of the rest of the world that is non-Christian (even though Jesus Christ himself would have scoffed and beaten up these people just as he did when he evicted the evil doers from the temple).

    I do believe Sen. Obama should win this election, even though the margin may be slim.

    My hope is based on the millions of young Americans who are inspired beyond imagination by Sen. Obama, and the other millions of old people like me who are in their 60’s and 70’s, who are also equally excited from the memories of the Kennedy Era. Sen. Obama has truly brought back the excitement and memories of JFK, RFK and MLK. I was a teen-ager during the time when these great Americans excited Americans young and old, and I can still feel that excitement, I am re-living that excitement now.

    The only reason this election is this close, even with a republican candidate who is way out of our times, and who, and whose surrogates, shamelessly bask on his age-old experience in a Vietnamese prison cell (almost 75% of the RNC speech was focused on this theme only!!), and who believes that his POW status entitles him to be the US President, and with a VP nomination that should insult any sensible American, is that Sen. Obama has an African father.

    I am saying this because I lived through the electrifying excitements generated by RFK, and that Sen. Obama has equaled or exceeded that excitement among the young and the old in this country and around the world.

    By "The Corporal"

    September 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

    To RW, Midori and Getalife “Whiners”

    Someone once gave me some good advice that I have unfortunately failed to heed on these blogs ……..

    Never argue with a emotionally disturbed person or those watching may not be able to tell the difference.

    I wish you all well…….. adieu

    By elizabeth

    September 14, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this

    Dear AJC,
    Please send this article to everyone you know. I certainly will. This should be mandatory reading and I now put you on my short-list for the 2008 Pulitzer.
    Thank you, Elizabeth

    By "The Corporal"

    September 14, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

    To Melanie T

    You indict your own candidate. Everything you say about Palin is true of Obama which is even worse as he is running for President.

    By Dusty

    September 14, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

    Dearest Suzanne,@8:28

    Speaking of “primitive survival techniques” I detect obvious signs of your “failure” in the banality of your post.

    As you watch Obama losing his survival you have resorted to primitive techniques. Just as Clinton rolled his eyes and said “depends on the meaning of is”, you have silently rolled your grieving eyes over the extended ahs & ohs & errrs of Obama. This deletion of observation accentuated by severe Liberalitis is known among women of self promoted importance.

    There is a CURE. Place a McCain/Palin sign in your front yard and stare at it intently five time a day. Your neighbors will be proud that you have found your way through your primitive passages.

    Oh, and take Melanie T with you and get her a McCain/Palin sign for her front yard. She needs one.

    By Jeff

    September 14, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

    Can you believe that we may well go from a mentally challenged, doofus President and his mentally deranged sidekick VP, to a senile, lying, decrepit, old fart President with a completely unqualified ‘hawkey mom’ as his VP?

    It’s hard to believe. What did we do to deserve this………?

    By Dusty

    September 14, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

    Dear Elizabeth@9:02

    How nice of you to nominate your father for a Pulitzer. Even if your vote is the only one, I am sure he will appreciate your singular effort. Good girl!!

    By "The Corporal"

    September 14, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this

    To Jeff

    I believe that’s hockey mom.

    By Michael D

    September 14, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

    Jeff, I’ll tell you what we did to deserve it.

    We voted for Bush twice, we did not challenge him on any of his lies because he said it was not patriotic to do that.

    We let the media get away with white washing everything.

    We are getting what we asked for and we are going to let them put it to us again and again.

    In most European countries a revolution would be erupting by now. Americans just take it.

    By "The Corporal"

    September 14, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

    To Michael D

    That’s why we have a Constitution and are a nation of laws.

    Does your response mean Republicans should have started a revolution during the Clintnista years ?

    P.S. If you tough talking liberals plan on starting a revolution, you have better start stocking up on some ammo and learning how to shoot (since you are so anti-2nd Amendment). It’s not as easy as you think.

    By Stephanie R

    September 14, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

    It seems there is another lie to pile on the mountain that already is threatening to overshadow the McCain/Palin campaign itself. Palin never went into Iraq, she merely went to the border and did not venture into a combat zone.

    Why is this a huge deal? Because it’s the one trip they can tout and it is based on exaggeration and lies, business as usual!

    The fact is, she’s more myth than truth and more distortion than reality. There is no straight talk express with McCain and he chose Palin because she exemplified his “maverick” status. She’s just more of the same as well. In saying that Palin had traveled to a battle zone somehow implies she put herself in danger in order to visit the National Guard Troops that she is in charge of, but it’s not the case. And as someone pointed out, Palin never visited Ireland either, it was merely a refueling stop.

    UPDATE: I just had an epiphany that others I’m sure have thought of. Of course they didn’t need to vet Palin, they are hand crafting the candidate they think they need to win without regard to the truth. McCain is who he is, they can’t do much about that, but they had to create the VP candidate that would counteract the celebrity status of Obama. Well, they did it incompetently and the cover up is always worse than the lie. Proof positive with Palin.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this

    I’m beginning to think that the private has a “thang” for Bill Clinton. He/she/it just can’t let go.

    you didn’t start a “revolution” during the Clinton years?

    A “revolution” disguised as impeachment?

    Michael D - “we” didn’t vote twice for him. The thieving rat stole it - on the backs of disenfranchised voters in Florida and Ohio. and “we” allowed him.

    hey private — show me where Bill Clinton threw eligible voters off the voting rolls in order to get elected.

    show me.

    By ByteMe

    September 14, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

    Midori, that site has a most interesting view into Alaska politics.

    This page is most important for EVERYONE to read: http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/karl-rove-comes-to-alaska/

    It reveals some interesting documented activities going on up in Alaska around the troopergate episode and current cover-up.

    By Heather

    September 14, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this

    Not only is Palin a liar, but she’s an insult to women. McCain picked her just because she’s a woman, not because of her qualifications, she doesn’t have any. Maybe he saw her exposing half her girls with that plunging neckline in Vogue magazine.

    Leave it to the Republicans to stomp on all of the progress that has been made this election season with regard to race and gender equality with a stunt like this just to win votes. This is appalling, insulting and a slap in the face to American women.

    By klem

    September 14, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

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    No amount of logic will EVER change the minds of those who have already decided what they think. Stupidity is it’s own best defense.

    Stupidity could very well decide the election AGAIN. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

    By klem

    September 14, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

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    No amount of logic will EVER change the minds of those who have already decided what they think. Stupidity is its own best defense.

    Stupidity could very well decide the election AGAIN. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

    thanks, Byte Me :)

    By "The Corporal"

    September 14, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

    To Midori

    Remember - no more back and forth between us ……… please.

    By Midori

    September 14, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

    what’s the matter, Corporal?

    Am I taking valuable time away from your Bill Clinton shrine???

    By Tamryn

    September 15, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

    Midori and ByteMe,

    Thanks for the links, very interesting reading, and I’m not surprised. McCain & company are just as down and dirty as Bush and company, maybe more so.

    Let’s forward these links, people.

    By M.D.Bigdaddy

    September 15, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

    You liberals are a sad bunch…you are so stupid that you will compare your “Top Gun” NOBAMA to Sarah. Think about it….your best against the B team. You are all biased, bigoted and racist…you just think you are above it because of your holy “cause” and that any means to destroy justifies the action. Wake up! Obama is pulling out of Georgia because we are a progressive state( Thinks ) and his Bull-*&% and character assassination to clear the field is not working here. Just use the same criteria with your Obama as you have Sarah and you will quickly see your man is an empty suit with no purpose in life ,but to win for the machine that is backing him. The only mistake the founding fathers made in drafting the Constitution was not allowing for the ultimate take over of congress by lawyers. I have pushed for years to write legislation to limit the amount of any profession in congress to 15%. If you have never read the Federalist papers or lived out of this wonderful country, please do so before you make any bigger fool of yourself. Obama is just wrong and so are you.

    By Demon Joe

    September 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

    McCain/Palin want into the Whitehouse on a ladder of lies and old Bush policies.

    For those of you that keep talking about Clinton lying about a blow-job. GET OVER IT! BJ’s are great! They won’t kill anyone and are actually good for the economy! Try it sometime!

    Obama will restore the nations lost standing, economic balance and get us out of Iraq!

    By M.D.Bigdaddy

    September 15, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

    Demon Joe, thank you for posting that awesome insight into the liberal mind. All you saw was a ” blow job” and forgot about …he was on the job….he was married…are you really that stupid..if I caught one of my employees getting a “BJ” on the clock I would fire them as we should have that piece of crap. A man who will be disloyal to his wife WILL betray his country…two people cannot live in one man.

    By M.D.Bigdaddy

    September 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

    Demon Joe, thank you for posting that awesome insight into the liberal mind. All you saw was a ” blow job” and forgot about …he was on the job….he was married…are you really that stupid..if I caught one of my employees getting a “BJ” on the clock I would fire them as we should have that piece of crap. A man who will be disloyal to his wife WILL betray his country…two people cannot live in one man.

    By Lee

    September 15, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

    Remember “It isn’t about the sex, it’s about the lying!”

    You’re right, it’s about the lying. We shouldn’t elect Sarah Palin, because she is a liar. She distorts the truth for political gain, and if elected, will continue to distort the truth for her political gain.

    I guess Sarah is just “Palin” our leg. Funny, the Republicans have been pulling our leg for the last seven and a half years, while calling the Democrats liars.

    However, when Clinton lied, nobody died. I’ve had enough of Republican lies and Republican liars. Throw the present Republican liars out, and don’t let the new Republican liars back in again!

    By Emma

    September 15, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

    At least Palin went to Kuwait to see her Troops and then to Germany to visit our wounded on her own accord. Unlike Obama that had to be forced into going to Iraq for his elections sake followed by blowing off our wounded in Germany. the man can’t admit the surge is working and the Iraqi’s are stepping up and doing great things every single day. I don’t know what planet he is on but it ain’t ours.

    By Emma

    September 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

    At least Palin went to Kuwait to see her Troops and then to Germany to visit our wounded on her own accord. Unlike Obama that had to be forced into going to Iraq for his elections sake followed by blowing off our wounded in Germany. the man can’t admit the surge is working and the Iraqi’s are stepping up and doing great things every single day. I don’t know what planet he is on but it ain’t ours.

    Oh, and our Congress lead by Dems has a 9% approval rating….talk about wanting more of the same. No Thanks.

    By M.D.Bigdaddy

    September 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

    Very good Emma…I would like to add to that for the less learned… congress spends money….executive branch cannot….too many Dems …president can’t veto….Barney Frank…head of banking…Dem…banking collapse… this is on your watch you bunch of Idiots. 9/11/01 planned on Clinton’s watch…we got hit….seven years later, we have not been…presidents job…chief of armed services…job well done…once again Dems. WRONG.

    By M.D.Bigdaddy

    September 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

    Very good Emma…I would like to add to that for the less learned… congress spends money….executive branch cannot….too many Dems …president can’t veto….Barney Frank…head of banking…Dem…banking collapse… this is on your watch you bunch of Idiots. 9/11/01 planned on Clinton’s watch…we got hit….seven years later, we have not been…presidents job…chief of armed services…job well done…once again Dems. WRONG.

    By M.D.Bigdaddy

    September 15, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

    Very good Emma…I would like to add to that for the less learned… congress spends money….executive branch cannot….too many Dems …president can’t veto….Barney Frank…head of banking…Dem…banking collapse… this is on your watch you bunch of Idiots. 9/11/01 planned on Clinton’s watch…we got hit….seven years later, we have not been…presidents job…chief of armed services…job well done…once again Dems. WRONG.

    By buck

    September 15, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

    jay if you had walking ‘round sense you could see the dim -o-crats are for a USSR type of govt. i wish osama hussien could be elected just for dimwits only & the rest of us could live w/ mccain/ palin

    By Ms. Tucker If Ur Nasty

    September 15, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

    Demon Joe you’re wrong, a good BJ and a ViceRoy would stop John McCain’s 1936 heart.

    By Phil

    September 17, 2008 12:50 AM | Link to this

    It is a mystery to me why my republican friends keep going back to blame Clinton for the last eight years and then say how harsh the press is on MacPalin-McBushIII!! It seems to me that McBush can not explain anything he has stood for other than his years as a POW. We all respect him and thank him for that but what has happened to him in the last few years? He seems as if he has SOLD HIS SOUL to try and change and LIE his way to win. This is so sad for a man that at one time was a Good Man. He appears to have gotten over that. I am sorry for that. As our economy,our statue in the world, our lies and 4200 young mens lives lost that if ever we could use a good man and sadly McCain has so changed that he is NO LONGER THIS MAN..

    By Midori

    September 17, 2008 4:11 AM | Link to this

    A man who will be disloyal to his wife WILL betray his country…two people cannot live in one man.

    hmmmmmmmm…………..

    of course you’re referring to John McCain, right?

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