Jay Bookman

By AJC/DNC Management

September 9, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

The culture of corruption?

Like Pelosi said she would but didn’t.

By "The Corporal"

September 9, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

The most important reason I am voting for McCain (who wasn’t my first choice) is the difference in future Supreme Court Justices. That’s it pure and simple. In the long run, that has a greater impact on what happens in (and to) this country than any four/eight year administration ………

P.S.

Private G.I. Obama thought about going into the Army in 1979 but ….

“Hup, two, three four, I’d join the Army but there ain’t no war” !

Laughable …..

By Capitol Hack

September 9, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Give them a minute or two, Jay….they’re thinking.

Meanwhile, we’ll take this opportunity to bestow the 2008 Political Chutzpah Award on the McCain team for taking much of what they’ve been criticizing Obama for and adopting it as their own. Are the American people so dumb that we’ll fall for it? We should be offended that the cynical McCain advisors think so.

By ByteMe

September 9, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Corporal, give reading comprehension a try. Jay isn’t asking for examples of McCain vs. Obama, but McCain vs. Bush.

I see a symbolic 10% difference, but — like McCain the man — that difference doesn’t seem to have an ideological purity to it. More whim than anything.

By Flex

September 9, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Hey Jay

Real funny how you bleeding heart gravy sucking liberals love to forget or ignore all of the time and effort that was put into having Iraq submit to the UN inspections that it had agreed to when they surrendered after Gulf Storm. People like you were the same types that tried to reason with Hitler.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 9, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Under a McCain presidency the United States will experience robust economic growth, and Americans will again have confidence in their economic future. A reduction in the corporate tax rate from the second highest in the world to one on par with our trading partners; the low rate on capital gains; allowing business to deduct in a single year investments in equipment and technology. Doubling the size of the child exemption will put more disposable income in the hands of taxpayers, further stimulating growth.

Need more?

By jasper

September 9, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Jay - Its not Beef, its Pork. The primary change will be to the culture of corruption that is our federal government. The vast majority of Americans see our government as wasteful and dishonest, as evident in the abysmal approval ratings of congress and the president. McCain’s stance and record on wasteful pork spending not only substantiates but accuarately predicts that he will call out the offenders and make them famous. This simple but crucial act will deter the pork barrel spending, save taxpayer dollars and redirect them to areas of the budget that need it, reduce the deficit spending, and moreover spark a rescucitation of trust in the government.

Next will be an expansion of all energy sources. I won’t bore you with the details.

Yes, both candidates are touting change, but with McCain its Change that will actually happen.

By "The Corporal"

September 9, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

To ByteMe

1) You’re the one who needs reading comprehension. Read it again. “John McCain has joined Barack Obama in arguing that it’s time to change …..”

My point was that it’s time to change the Supreme Court with even stronger “originalist” judges who will interpret the Constitution instead of legislating from the bench.

2) What about Private Obama and his claim about the Army. Ha, Ha, Ha !

By T

September 9, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

By “The Corporal”

We agree and. However, that is why I am voting for Obama not McCain.

Capitol Hack Are the American people so dumb that we’ll fall for it?

It happened last election. Well, kind of.

By bubbatech02

September 9, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Just look at any number of bill’s will McCain’s name on it and a democrats name on it, and you will see that McCain is a different sort of person. Oh, i would have looked for the same of Barack, but as you left wing liberal nutcases like to forget, he has none.

also, you keep on harping on McCain for his approach to foriegn affairs, but isnt it interesting that as Barack has had to face making decisions about FAs, his viewpoints have come closer to those espoused by McCain and Bush. interesting, though you will likely not report on that either.

Barack: blind support McCain: informed support

By Tony

September 9, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

More media bias for the do-nothing Obama and the least liked do-nothing democrats!!!!!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Here’s a great piece from the New York Times listing side by side what they agree and disagree on.

By getalife "whiners"

September 9, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

He spewed, “change is coming.”

And the gullible believe him.

I guess he is talking about Obama.

Why Americans believe anything they say is beyond me.

By ByteMe

September 9, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

@bubbatech02: you call everyone you don’t agree with a “nutcase”, but then you don’t operate with facts, you’re just enamored of your own opinion. A guick google of the facts:

Obama voted in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act.[56] In September 2006, Obama supported a related bill, the Secure Fence Act.[57] Obama introduced two initiatives bearing his name: “Lugar­Obama,” which expanded the Nunn­Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons,[58] and the “Coburn­Obama Transparency Act,” which authorized the establishment of www.USAspending.gov, a web search engine.[59] On June 3, 2008, Senator Obama, along with Senators Carper, Coburn and McCain, introduced follow-up legislation: Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008.[60]

Obama sponsored legislation requiring nuclear plant owners to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks.[61] In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act,” marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.[62] In January 2007, Obama co-sponsored the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which was signed into law in September 2007.[63] He introduced S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections.[64] Obama also introduced the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007.[65] Obama and Richard Lugar visit a Russian mobile launch missile dismantling facility Obama and Richard Lugar visit a Russian mobile launch missile dismantling facility[66]

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges.[67] He sponsored the “Iran Sanctions Enabling Act” supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran’s oil and gas industry, and co-sponsored legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.[68][69] Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children’s Health Insurance Program providing one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.[70]

So much for your “informed” disdain of Obama.

By Earl

September 9, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

And you libs actually thought Obama wasn’t going to tank sooner or later? How funny. Behind 10 points in the polls, being kicked to the curb by a Mayor from Alaska and Mr. Designer Glasses from MANBC news and his buttsurfing buddy Chris Matthews all demoted in one week. There is a God indeed and he likes McCain!

By steve

September 9, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

How will McCain change “corruption” in govt, when he’s been part of this corruption as a member of the Senate, voting right along with Bush, for decades?

America, if you keep voting for this corporate elitists who have sold their souls long ago, you get what you deserve.

If McSame wins,I don’t want to hear ONE person whine about the mess this country REMAINS in the next 4 years.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

BUBBATECH02

Please post the data to support your post at 9:39

IT IS A LIE.

By marko

September 9, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Republicans are a really swell bunch of guys they took us out and showed us a great time. They just forgot to tell us that they were using our credit cards to pay for it. Out of the fear of coming across as negative, I’d like to comment that Sarah Palin looks pretty damn good reading insults from a teleprompter. While I’m at, Doubya looks pretty cool prancing around in a flight suit. I’m finding it’s really nice to say nice things about people. That guy that’s not really a doctor but, plays one on TV, He looks pretty good too.

By ByteMe

September 9, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Earl @ 9:45: so if McCain loses, there is no God?

Does your religion have a name yet?

By TC

September 9, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Obama has voted with the Democrats 97% of the time. It doesn’t look like he is going to change much either. With the worst Democratic congress in history (an approval rating of 15%), having a Democratic President is frightening.

By Copyleft

September 9, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

I see that McCain’s “staunch defenders” are stubbornly refusing to actually answer Jay’s question… or to say anything about McCain himself, really.

They’re basing their entire campaign on “going negative” against Obama—and that’s a desperation tactic. They have nothing good to say about their own man—heck, they don’t even KNOW what he stands for!—and yet, they’re absolutely determined to vote for him.

This illustrates the cluelessness of conservative American voters quite clearly.

By Stop Sending The GOV your tax

September 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Folks there is one solution to all your problems.

Simply stop sending the government your federal tax and demand a consumption tax instead.

The current system is slavery/government sponsored theft.

By notmyfirstbbq

September 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

what’s the difference between sarah palin and a hockey mom? sarah palin misrepresented herself in front of 38 million americans……seriously, bearing false witness is a sin, and i’m in the obama camp now. i’m praying for sarah palin’s soul, come the rapture…

By Ilene

September 9, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

America votes for the TRUTH, and you sure as heck aren’t getting that from McCain.

When did anyone ever write that the Republicans are the only Patriots here? Do you think it is just Republicans in Iraq dying for you and this dumb administration — I think not. Someone on another blog actually called Democrats terrorits. You have just insulted these brave men and women by calling people terrorists that vote or Obama. SHAME ON YOU. What would you call one of our dear servicemen/women that are going to vote for Obama. They’re sitting in 100 degree temperatures for you and your dumb war and you’re calling them terrorists?

Anyone that will vote for that ticket just isn’t right in the mind. Oh wait a second, you have to have a mind in the first place to be right in it.

Do you seriously want to vote for a party that never mentioned any issues at the convention that touch normal, every-day people? They never ONCE mentioned healthcare (do you have health insurance — be prepared to pay taxes on whatever your employer pays for you on that). Have you never lost a job or had a family member lose a job?

Do you really want your president to never have heard of Microsoft Corporation — without Microsoft Corporation, you’d not be able to post these messages —**, they brought computers and software to the “average man.” Do you really want your president to not even use email — my gosh, he’s so out of touch with every day life.

Do you really want your presidential party to be trying to relate to the common person and then have the wife of the presidential candidate come out in a $300,000 outfit. When’s the last time you or someone in your family wore a “mansion” out in public — that woman dressed up in an outfit that cost more than some houses in America.

What are you people inhaling — it sure isn’t COMMON SENSE.

To truly get us out of this Fall of the Roman Empire repeat story, vote for Common Sense and Hope, vote for OBAMA.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

TC

Yes, Obama voted with the dems 97% of the time

BUT….it remains Bush and the GOP who are responsible for the state of our economy and our reputation around the world.

By Midori

September 9, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Earl,

isn’t it kind of difficult to type on a keyboard while wearing a strait jacket?

By RW-(the original)

September 9, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Obama voted in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act.

ByteMe,

Are you trying to help or hurt Obama? You’ve just told us that Obama voted for Bush’s energy bill, which McCain voted against and that Obama signed on to cosponser McCains immigration bill.

Jay B,

A top down review of all federal agencies has been promised by McCain and Governor Palin is just the person to do it. I can’t wait to see what ends up on EBAY.

His choice of Palin shows he’s ready to shake things up, while Obama’s choice of Biden shows when faced with a decision he turns to party insiders. We’ve always known that’s how he operates in Chicago and the VP choice shows that’s not going to change.

One of the biggest problems I hear from people that say we’re on the wrong track is because of the sheer size and intrusiveness of the federal government. McCain promises to shrink it, while Obama promises new programs almost daily. In that respect McCain is real change and Obama is Bush’s third term.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

HERE’S SOME PRIME BEEF

Washington Post comparing McCain’s and Obama’s Tax cuts

By Denver Dem

September 9, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

When Palin says she “stopped” the Bridge to Nowhere, that is just a flat out lie.

She was for it until she saw that it was a loser and was generating bad publicity for her state.

And she hired a lobbyist to try to get all the earmarks she could for her city as mayor.

Nothing wrong with that. I believe a mayor’s job is to get all they can for their city from the federal government.

Same as a Governor’s job. They should fight to get all they can for their state.

Just don’t lie about it and pretend to be something your not later.

By Pat

September 9, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Why punish 5% of the population to benefit the almost 50% who don’t pay any income tax at all? Why not provide tax relief for all Americans and cut wasteful government spending? Obama’s plan punishes success and rewards laziness. That’s not the America I want to leave for my kids.

http://www.cafepress.com/NObamaforPres http://www.cafepress.com/nobamarx

By GOPs got to go

September 9, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the link Mrs Godzilla. It was very informative.

By TC

September 9, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Ilene,

I will list the reasons I am voting for John McCain as you seem to think that I don’t have a brain.

As far as the $300,000 suit goes, she earned her money working (yes, much of it was inherited) but she does run the company, she can buy what she wants. She also works with many charitable causes as well.

By bubbetech02

September 9, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

i always have to laugh when the left cites all this Barack support of bills to compensate for the fact that he still has not accomplished one thing. all the bills he has introduced made it no where. this do nothing congress wasted their time on recognizing a watermellon month than actually doing anything.

oh, and btw, take the shine of your candidate, cause he stinks like everyone else in washington:

ON C(O)NN:

“Sen. Barack Obama is the No. 3 recipient of Fannie and Freddie campaign dollars, having collected $123,000 from the companies since he first ran for the Senate in 2004, according to the Federal Election Commission and the Center for Responsive Politics.

The former chief executive of Fannie Mae, James Johnson, was the original head of Obama’s vice presidential search team. Johnson resigned from Obama’s campaign amid controversy over discounted home loans he had received.

Sen. John McCain has received $19,000 from the two companies in the past ten years.”

and how exactly is barack different? He is not. get over it.

By dirty harry

September 9, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

It Seems Palin charges Alaskan tax payers per diem costs for nights she spends at home!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088.html?hpid=topnews

She claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her job is in Juneau!

The governor’s daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel, and many of the trips were between their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.

This is the woman who is going to bring changes to Washington? Sounds to me LIKE more of the same…Soak the tax payer!

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

PAT

Why reward 5% of the population and let 95% suffer?

That’s not the kind of America I want to leave for my kids.

By T

September 9, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

By Pat

So, only 5% of the American population are productive? Really??? Interesting.

By jasper

September 9, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

McCain will lower the coporate Tax Rate. Obama will raise it. Right now the US. has the second highest corportate tax rate among industrialized nations. China is at a tipping point with the price of their labor as the vast majority of their people have improved their lifestyles, consumed more and demand higher wages.

These higher wages combined with shipping costs are making many chinese investors look at opportunities to move manufacturing back to the US. Several states including GA are now courting the Chinese to create these micro manufacturing facilities, keeping them underneath the radar of labor unions, which helped drive these jobs to China in the first place.

A lower corporate tax rate will send this phenomenon into hyper drive, creating jobs and tax revenues.

Change that will actually happen!

By Dennis

September 9, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Ditto TC at 10:16 a.m.

By Original Rick

September 9, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

To quote Jon Stewart from last Friday’s Daily Show, when he was interviewing Gov. Huckabee:

“So, you’re saying that your party is the only party that can repair the damage done to our country by your party?”

Gov. Huckabee did not have a response, other than a startled look and an embarrassed laugh.

(I’m sure you can find the video somewhere on the internets.)

Whenever someone asks who I am voting for, my answer is always, “The intelligent one.” Without fail, they know which guy I am referring to.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

OH AND PAT

Please post data to support the notion that 50% of Americans pay no tax at all.

THAT IS A LIE

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

BUBBATECH02

THIS IS A LIE

i always have to laugh when the left cites all this Barack support of bills to compensate for the fact that he still has not accomplished one thing. all the bills he has introduced made it no where.

THIS IS DISGUSTING AND RACIST

this do nothing congress wasted their time on recognizing a watermellon month than actually doing anything.

By Jay Casey

September 9, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Those of us in business and international trade are impressed by Obama’s approach to leveling the playing field with our competitors like China and Russia. McCain has said he will continue the failed trade policies of Bush - the policies that have seen our trade deficit mushroom as China has continued to unfairly bar our products from entering their country. Obama is alone in demanding equal treatment from our trade partners. I’ve always voted Republican in the past but Obama is the only one that is even talking about fair trade and that is what those of us with medium-sized exporting companies need.

By RealityKing

September 9, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Hay Jay, you’ve already answered your own question! Remember that article on reducing spending? You know, that thing democrats promised in 2006..

Yeap, that’s something McCain offers that Obama can’t deliver. It’s a real simple concept..

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

PARDON ME JASPER

From the Brookings Institute

“The United States has the second highest corporate tax rate of the 30 countries in the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). But because the United States has so many generous special tax preferences for businesses, it collects the fourth lowest corporate tax revenues as a share of GDP among all OECD countries.”

By CommunistAJC

September 9, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

JAY BOOKMAN, Um, you and Cynthia Tucker better start looking for new jobs. I just read, yet ANOTHER article on how the AJC is tanking. By the way, Cynthia really does look short on camera. Caught her on O’Reilly last night. And her mentor, Chris Matthews, has been “re-assigned” to another position at MSNBC. Things ain’t lookin so hot for you guys are they?

By bubbatech02

September 9, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

mrs. godzilla

that was not meant to be racist, and if you took offense, i wont apologize because you took it too far.

the post was merely to show how ineffective this congress has really been, and yes, they did recognize a watermellon month in the same month that our gas prices skyrocketed.

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

The differeneces are not that grand at first glance. Here are some off the top of my head though. McCain is for more consultation and interaction with the senate and its leaders. This is something Bush was not for. McCain also understands and has stated that the tension over cival liberties taken away after 9/11. While he has also spoken about how ther is a fine line between protecting cival liberties and protecting the country. Also as a survivor of torture McCain is strongly against its use and practice. McCain is also for creating even more tax cuts for all americans not just those with heavy interest groups.

I have listed several items were there is proof look at votes( do not give me the 90% - 10% line, the only Bills Bush gets to vote on ae already passed through congress so that means like 60% of teh people in Congress had to agree as well, it is not an accurate depiction of teh stats). Now I would love to hear an answer how Obama is going to bring about change. He rants and raves about not acceptiong money from lobbyist yet more than $6,000 has made its way to his campaign. Also his party the democrates have accepted over $181,000 from special interest groups this past year. This is the same party that Obama voted with over 90% of the time. So someone tell me, how is Obama going to break away and change from the senate he loves to vote with, you know the ones with the lowest approval rating ever. Even lower than Bush

By Taxpayer

September 9, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

I think that just about any politicians claiming that they will reduce government waste and spending if elected cannot be wrong this time around. Let’s look at the “fine mess” we’re in and see why it just about has to work out that way.

First, you can’t spend what you don’t have, can’t borrow, can’t print, or can’t take. Japan, China and other countries that hold much of our debt have done started pulling the plug on their loans and the majority of the US population went bust a long time ago so there’s not a lot of available capital just laying around for the government to latch on to right now. Bush’s credit cards are maxed out and paper and ink for the printing presses have been priced out of reach by inflation. The green back just won’t buy what it used to buy. Our government had to borrow the money to give out the stimulus checks, it had to borrow money to fund the Iraq war, it continues to borrow money to bail out wall street and the failing banks…The only thing Bush has left to start wars with is his little red button but that approach doesn’t leave anything behind worth taking — so much for the spoils of war approach. So, what’s left. We’re going to be forced to cut spending and waste just to scrape up the money to pay interest on our loans and if we don’t manage to collect enough money to pay out Social Security, we might just see that old folks army come out in force — it just won’t be directed against Iraqis. Where’s the money going to come from. For one thing, Bush’s own plans to keep our budget in check requires the elimination of his “things that legacies are made of” tax cuts. If that isn’t enough or if the tax cuts are extended, then waste and unnecessary spending have to go and I see that as a campaign promise easily kept by whoever takes office. We’ll see.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

BUBBATECH02

I will accept you chose words poorly, rather than be racist and disgusting.

Now address the LIE.

By ByteMe

September 9, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

RW, you asked “Are you trying to help or hurt Obama?” Neither. Facts are neutral. It’s our own interpretation that determines whether it helps or hurts. I was addressing the LIE that Obama has never authored a piece of legislation and my posting effectively did that. So then — of course — the poster moves the goalposts, because he can’t possibly be wrong or misinformed by his favorite radio talk show host….

By AJC/DNC Management

September 9, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Sarah Palin dolls go on sale as John McCain’s running mate’s popularity soars. Two new action dolls have gone on sale of Sarah Palin, the Alaska Governor who John McCain has chosen to be his Republican presidential running mate.

“Action” being the key word here.

Gift idea for dimwit liberals- Community organizer rabble rouser figure, complete with bullhorn and a free box of Kleenex tissues.

Toga costume sold separately.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

tcouch

Why would Obama need to breakaway from the congress he has voted with?

What has he voted on with them that is offensive?

Please be specific.

Here’s a little homework…..which of these plans - obstructed by Republicans - should Obama breakaway from?

By ByteMe

September 9, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Republicans play with dolls. Film at 11.

By Dusty

September 9, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Well, today’s subject will only be another “You lie!” followed by “NO, you lie!! and on into the night…

Guess I’ll wander over to Wootens to see if he has the meat Bookman cannot find (or wish to find).

And just for irritation I STILL LIKE BUSH, you ingrates. Go parade with Pelosi, Murtha, Boxer and Reid, and your hero of nothing, Obama. You are the Bridge to Nowhere in poltics.

By bubbatech02

September 9, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla (love the name, btw, and that is meant to be a compliment)

What Lie are you all talking about? you mean that barack has yet to get any bill that he introduced passed in congress? okay, i have to admit that i was wrong on that one. he did get ONE bill that he introduced passed, in 2006

S. 2125, a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo” became law in December 2006. (S. 2125, Became Law 12/22/06)

every other single bill that he has introduced has fallen by the wayside. he can only claim the fact that he supported the bills that actually do pass (which a majority of congress can do by default).

great leader. another prime example of the wonderful output of a do nothing congress.

By tiff

September 9, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

I like it when people like Jay Bookman are not afraid to ask the big questions of these candidates, even my candidate Obama. It says to me he is not going to give these politicians a free ride on the taxpayers dollar. Much respect to Bookman, I bet in a sit down with any of these candidates for president of vice-president, he would tear them apart. Unlike some of these high paid TV personalities you see on TV every night. They always ask the silly questions like “What kind of dog are you going to get for your kids?” or “What shade of lipstick do hockey moms prefer?” and my favorite “I wonder how she keeps her hair looking so perfect”. How in the heck does that help people who are losing their houses and their jobs. How does that help us cope with the rising cost of grocery and gas prices. How does that help someone who has no health insurance after working all of their life. How does that help with this multi-trillion dollar debt we have to pay back to China before they foreclose on AMERICA. But Jay laid this one on the line “WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IF WE PUT YOU IN OFFICE?” Way to go Jay, I just hope no one sends their goon squad after you because of this article.

By RealityKing

September 9, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

John McCain spent 5 yrs in a POW camp. And Sarah Palin chose to keep and raise a Down Syndrome child.

Barack Obama, spent 4 yrs as a jr senator and voted 97% of the time with Pelosi and Reed. And Joe Biden is a 36 yr senate loud mouth doofus with no real legislation to his name.

One of these tickets defines courage under fire, the other defines self-absorbed socialism. Can you tell which is which??

By Anfernee

September 9, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

I’ve have decided to change my vote from Obama to McCain. I originally was voting for Obama just like all my friends and family were doing because he is African American. Now that I have heard and seen both parties talk about what they are going to do for the country, it is quite clear Obama doesn’t know what he is doing. He can’t make a decision without changing it later in the day (strike 1), he has no experience (strike 2), he wants to raise taxes (strike 3), he doesn’t want to drill for oil (strike 4), his VP choice is a absolute idiot (strike 5), his wife is a racist (strike 6), he shows bad extremely poor judgement with his choice of friends and religious associates (strike 7), and he doesn’t speak for everyone (elitist)(strike 8), which is not the way a president should act. He will put this country in grave danger with our enemies and that economy will just crash with his ideas. I ask my all my fellow African Americans to stop and think for a minute. You know you are voting for Obama just because of the color of his skin. We don’t want the first African American President to go and become the worst President of all time. We want Jimmy Carter to keep that dishonor. Vote McCain and we will see real change in our country.

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Can someone give me a real argument for why the top 5% must pay taxes at a higher rate than the lower. Anyone over 250,000 will pay more. Will that not cause a drop in the level of production. What is teh incentive for being sucessful, if there is free health care, and rich people are going to pay my taxes and the government is going to give me free money. What are the incentives for people to work.

By DiverDown

September 9, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Well it is sad but I feel it is the truth. Our government is no longer a goverment of the people, for the people, by the people. It is a goverment of the parites, for the parties, by the parties or you can substitue politician for party.

The candiate change their story in response to constituant changes in concern. Their only concern it ot get elected regardless of the story they tell. This is for all candidate not just republicans or democrates. I have seen where both Senators McCain and Obama have changed direction. Examples are Obama first said he would pull troups out imediately, then it went to various level of extention to make sure the transition would take hold. McCain now is the republican candiate of change.

There is also some nattering over Palin choice as well as the Choice for Joe Biden. Do not think for a minute they were chosen for their ability to lead. They were chosen for the votes they could garner for part.

By RW-(the original)

September 9, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

ByteMe,

If you were trying to show how he authored a piece of legislation why did your lengthy, unattributed cut and paste start with a vote and and a hop up onto somebody else’s bill. Why don’t you sort through your lengthy, unattributed cut and paste and find some actual meaningful legislation that Obama actually wrote and fought for? For bonus points it would be nice if you find something that didn’t pass by unanimous consent.

By Goldie

September 9, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Jay— and Luckovich’s cartoon is spot-on about the Palin lies… she’s a big lover of federal PORK. And she believes that’s gonna be a big secret she can keep?

And how does that old saying go: “you can put LIPSTICK on a pig, but…”

By T

September 9, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

By RealityKing

September 9, 2008 10:49 AM

I don’t understand your logic, sir.

I guess the ultimate dream team for the Republicans would have been a McCain/Jessica Lynch ticket.

By bubbatech02

September 9, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

since 1/3 of washington is congress, lets flip this question around and ask the democrats, what has barack done that leads you to believe that he will change congress? if i am not mistaken, he has never, not once, voted against party lines. in fact, according to his voting record (when he voted other than present), he voted along party lines over 95% of the time. that is more than mccain.

and btw, BUSH DOESNT VOTE IN CONGRESS. Get off this crap about mccain voting for bush 90% of the time. that is a stupid statistic with misconstrued and mischaracterized data designed to influence ignorant people.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

BUBBATECH02

You stated the LIE in the second paragraph of your post…and then you admitted making a mistake.

Well….your not done admitting mistakes…

how about

WASHINGTON - Legislation authored by U.S. Senators Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL) that will help keep weapons like shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles out of terrorists’ hands has passed Congress and will soon be signed into law by the President. Lugar and Obama authored the legislation (S. 2566) and included provisions of the bill as part of H.R. 6060, which was approved by the Congress early Saturday morning.

Please note that he reached across the aisle…he was bipartisan working with a Republican.

YOU SAID

“every other single bill that he has introduced has fallen by the wayside. he can only claim the fact that he supported the bills that actually do pass (which a majority of congress can do by default).”

Is it a lie or a mistake?

By bubbatech02

September 9, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

and before you all get in a hissy fit about the other 5% of the time, that is when he was either not present or voted present.

By Rob

September 9, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

I can tell you what the wrong direction is…the wrong direction is a country that allows Obama to even be considered as a candidate due to liberal white guilt and pansy political correctness.

By ByteMe

September 9, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

RW: I’ll let you do your own homework, thanks. I have real paying work to do today. I’ll pass along a clue: Try his senate web site for starters.

I’ll leave you all now with my latest fav joke:

What’s the difference between an Islamo-fascist and a Christian fascist?

“Lipstick.”

Enjoy your day.

By RW-(the original)

September 9, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

So where’s the change? Step up and point out particular places where a President McCain would alter the direction of this country, Republicans.

Jay B.,

I’ve got to run out until this evening, but since you have about an equal sampling of Republicans and Democrats here, wouldn’t it be fair to ask the Democrats for specifics about Obama as well?

By Jake

September 9, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

The beef is in reducing the runaway federal spending. First, he has an established record of standing up against the pork. Second, we’ll need a Rep President to veto some of the appropriations bills the Dem Congress is certain to pass. Start putting some numbers on the promises from the empty suit, $1,000 rebates, tripling earned income credit (BTW this isn’t tax reduction for the poor, this is an extra transfer to those that already pay no taxes), and universal health care and it’s clear Obama with a Dem Congress will spend us into a second Depression!

By jasper

September 9, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Pardon me Godzilla, but what the brookings inst. is referring to is Federal Revenues, as much as half of the collected tax is at the state level, not included in Brookings numbers. In addition many of the large corporations simply hide revenues in overseas investments, denying federal coffers illegally on average 1.2 Trillion annually. taxfoundation.org

Our penalizing tax rates must be cut at state and federal levels but coupled with severe efforts and penalties for those coporations that creatively use foreign tax shelters.

Nevertheless Obama seeks to raise this rate. That’s a change you can believe in, and should be scared of.

By W

September 9, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

This video from the Daily Show clearly illustrates the change John McCain offers and how it differs from George Bush: The Daily Show

McBush rides again!

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

BUBBATECH02

What part of that 97% do you disagree with?

Increasing the Minimum Wage?

Securing Loose Nukes?

New GI Bill?

The Government Transparency Act?

By Captain

September 9, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Jay, it depends upon what one means by change. It is very evident by listening to Obama, reading Obama, and understanding Obama that his change means a radical leap to the left. His change means a government which is more socialistic in its approach to issues. He proposes socializing medicine, he proposes more government regulation, he proposes increasing the tax burden to millions of Americans including small businesses to pay for his agenda. He is part of the Washington ‘Big Government’ establishment. During his time in the Senate he has earmarked millions, close to a billion dollars. Earmarks fly in the face of CHANGE. If Obama means real change he would have set the example rather than hopped on board the pork express. He opposes offshore drilling, drilling in ANWR, nuclear energy, and promotes alternative fuels such as solar. That’s fine, but those alternatives will take years and what do we do in the meantime? What do truckers do whose livelihood depends upon transporting goods and services? How do they pay for their rigs when diesel is $4 per gallon? Obama reprsents change, a change that the environmental left has supported for years, the same agenda many leftists have supported, the end of capitalism.

John McCain represents change away from the old Washington way of doing business. The backroom deals, favors for a few. It is a fact, a fact not in dispute that Democrats love to spend money on big government giveaways, and social programs. It is also a fact that the Republican majority, after the tax cuts enacted increased Federal revenues, could not wait to hand out money. They spent as if there was no tomorrow. McCain fought those interests, and Obama was part of the system.

In summary, Obama represents change, but he has yet to come forth and openly explain his change because it is so radical the American voters would overwhelmingly reject him. His change would take the country towards the French model of cradle to grave socialism where the government is in control of everything from health services, day care, wages to vacation time. We cannot afford Obama’s change.

By Goldie

September 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

There is a God indeed and he likes McCain!

Earl @ 9:45 — OH REALLY?

You’re just one reason that the Dems WILL defeat the Repugs in November — we can’t let the American Taliban-lovers like you take over the White House in Jan. ‘09. God doesn’t “like” your guy anymore than he likes Obama. Get over it!

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

BUBBATECH02

A presnt vote is an idiosyncrasy of the Illinois State senate (homework, dude) it is not used in the US Senate.

Hissy fit? I don’t think so.

Please tell us how you would prefer that we point out your errors?

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

I was not speaking of anything being offensive, other than not doing anything thing they promissed to get elected. Does it not offend you that the senate said these same things a little over a year ago about how they were going to change Washington, and still nothing. His record of voting with party shows a lack of bi-partisanship, while also voting with people who claim change but offer none also show that he could be only talking with no intentions of getting anything done but his name in the history books. Wha has he done to bring about change. His record seems to point to more of the same.

By bubbatech02

September 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

mrs. godzilla,

wow. sorry about that. i guess that is two bill, in 2006, which is like TWO YEARS AGO. Great job Barack!! You really are a strong leader.

and its really awesome that he reached across the isle ONCE!!! wow, i guess the case is closed. barack does have the experience to lead since he did it twice in two years!!! wow, what an amazing record.

you liberals should be really proud of that. two bills in two years. wow. thats experience we can count on.

Obama 08 Osama 09

By Denver Dem

September 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) September 9, 2008 10:13 AM

One of the biggest problems I hear from people that say we’re on the wrong track is because of the sheer size and intrusiveness of the federal government. McCain promises to shrink it.

Hmmmmm. Didn’t Bush promise the same thing? Just wondering.

By Pat September 9, 2008 10:16 AM

Why punish 5% of the population to benefit the almost 50% who don’t pay any income tax at all? Why not provide tax relief for all Americans and cut wasteful government spending? Obama’s plan punishes success and rewards laziness.

In what way? Do you think ALL tax dollars goes to welfare? Sarah Palin’s granddaughter-to-be is lucky because she will have a rich family to take care of her. But what if a newborn doesn’t have a rich family. Do you think the federal government should help? Is this the “lazy” your talking about?

Just wondering.

By TC

September 9, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Well said, Captain!

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

PARDON ME MRS.JASPER

The piece compared and contrasted the two.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

OH MY GOD OBAMA IS A LIBERAL!

A FLAMING PINKO COMMIE RADICAL!

WHO KNEW?

I mean…

He supports womens choice, most Americans do.

He supports withdrawal from Iraq, most Americans do.

He supports a national healthcare system, most Americans do.

He supports ending our dependence on terroist oil, most American do.

He supports tax cuts for the middle class, most Americans do.

He supports civil rights for gays, most Americans do.

OH NO!!!

WHAT DOES THAT MAKE MOST AMERICANS??

By Brad

September 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

I will take four more years of Bush any day over four more years of “Goober”Carter The Deocratic empty suit and his partner, “Big Bag of Wind” have nothing to offer but higher taxes, lhigher job loss and deeper in debt while they increase spending. Intelligent people will recognize that while other will vote Democrat and everyone will be losers!

By DebbieDoRight

September 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Few years ago I would’ve voted for McCain — however, ever since he’s come to realize that he needs the RNC’s money and blessings in order to run a succesful campaign, (he’d learned that during the first Bush road to the Presidency when the RNC “swiftboated” McCain by spreading rumors that he had a “black” child), ever since then he’s been the RNC’s “Yes man”. He’ll say whatever it takes to win. Period.

You want gas without the added tax for a few weeks? Well McCain (as did Hillary), said that’s a WONDERFUL idea — even though it’ll hurt the economy more. But hey, it made him look like he cared about the common man. Obama was the only one who told the truth — refusing to pander to ignorance.

You want change? Well McCain just figured out that he was for change after all!! Right after he saw the polls.

You want to drill for off-shore oil? Well McCain was against it, until the powerful Oil Lobbyists took him to the woodshed and reminded him about who buttered his bread. Now he’s for it 100%.

PS: Notice that you never see the child McCain and his wife adopted from Bangladesh anymore? I wonder why…hmmmmmmmm…..

By Peadawg

September 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, where are you getting you info on your “most Americans do” rant?

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 9, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

BUBBATECH02

OK, since it’s obvious you won’t put in the effort to find the truth about Obama

WILL YOU AT LEAST TRY TO DO IT FOR YOU CANDIDATE?

JUST WHAT BILLS HAS McCAIN AUTHORED AND PASSED IN HIS 4 TERMS IN THE SENATE?

It’s a glass houses thing, dude.

By 247liberal

September 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

As usual, AJC readers (and conservatives in general) can only spit out what they hear from Bill, Rush, and Sean (who are millionaires based on dollars culled from all you suckers). No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in. You idiots deserve the government you get! Half of the people in these posts are 2 paychecks away from being destitute, yet the only comeback they have are blurbs about lowering the capital gains tax and a reduction in the corporate tax rate. Maybe you should stop and ask yourself… what does that really do to help me or my children? Don’t attach a political party or race to the question. We’ll see how ‘lazy’ you are when your behind is out looking for a job because your comfortable position has been shipped overseas. What a bunch of yahoos!

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

tired of teh what if Palin’s daughter was not from a rich family. Well I’m not nor is my wife and 3 years ago as college students and unmarried we found out she was pregnant. I manned up and she womanned up. I finished my last year of eligibility with basketball and she continued her schooling as well. I also took a job at a hardware store, she took one as a waitress. We alternated who watched teh baby. Yes it was a sacrafice and we did not have social lives. Now both of us are college graduates, I am one of teh youngest head coaches in the state and she now works for DFACS. So yes I feel that people wanting a governmwent handout to help take care of tehir child are lazy. I went to school full-time, worked 25+ hours a week, and played on a nationally ranked basketball team. So no our house was not nice, and we did not live with expensive taste, but we took care of each other, and paid for our own insurance for our son. When i see tax dollars being offered up to any citizen who either is not working or not paying anything into taxes I am bothered. I guess teh difference is that my wife and I both had ambitions and were not going to allow ourselves to become dependant upon the government.

By Kevin Smoltz

September 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

liberal white guilt and pansy political correctness. Good one Rob that is EXACTLY why NObama is a candidate. I needed a one liner and you delivered. Thanks bud!

By Scott

September 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

I tell ya what Jay, you tell us first what Obama supposedly thinks he is going to change in this country, and maybe I will think about answering your stupid question.

By bubbatech02

September 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

mrs. godzilla

enjoyed the time. yes, i had to go to the illinios senate (i never stated the us congress, but details are not a liberals strong suite) to get votes because barack has been too busy campaigning for president instead of doing his job in the senate.

a couple of questions: do you think the increase in minimum wage has anything to do with the increase in unemployment? who employs american, the rich or the poor? did you not read the fact that securing loose nukes was not obama’s plan (it was the prior nunn-luger plan)? do you think the IRS does a good job? what country with socialized medicine has a plan that works (i.e. no rich people having to fly to america to get real health care)?

just a couple of questions.

By jasper

September 9, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Jay - Here’s another Change that will happen.

McCain will push for more Nuclear Energy. We have not built a new power reactor in this country for almost 30 years. Beacuse of fear. Technological improvements have reduced construction costs by 40%, and improved efficiency by almost the same rate regarding power output, and reduced contamination to components. Nuclear power is now our cleanest most abundant power frontier. This will be essential in the proliferation of electric transportation as well as the regrowth of manufacturing in this country helped by cheaper energy costs.

Change that will actually happen.

By sunshine and thunder

September 9, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Change????

What change???

Almost 8 years of the economic equivalent of full employement, steady GDP growth, rising revenues to the Treasury, shrinking deficits and ZERO terror attacks on this country.

Yeah, leave it to dumb, class warrior left wing nuts to demand change.

I know. Here’s some change we can believe in:

Pass the FairTax and eliminated all income taxes forever.

Insitute school vouchers nationwide.

Eliminate the Federal Department of Education.

By TC

September 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

To Denver Dem: I think it was Kennedy who said, “Don’t ask what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”. It seems to me that this great country of ours seems to think the government should bail them out of everything. Where is it written in the constitution that our government is there to take care of our bad decisions from taking mortgages that we can’t afford to having children that we can’t afford? It is our own personal responsibility. My husband did have a child as a teenager. He had nothing to his name. He didn’t receive any help from the government or any parents. He worked two jobs and went to college all at the same time to make a success out of himself. It was hard but he did it. If you don’t have the means to have children, there are other options such as adoption. If not, work hard and you will get ahead.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

When she retaliated (justifiably) by mocking his stint as a organizer, the Obama camp was clearly rattled. Obama himself actually began arguing about the importance of community organizing. His supporters amplified this cry - claiming Palin’s attack was a racist slur and passing around e-mails titled “Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

I’m Obama Bin Biden and I, uh, approve of that message, uh.

By DebbieDoRight

September 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

These higher wages combined with shipping costs are making many chinese investors look at opportunities to move manufacturing back to the US. Several states including GA are now courting the Chinese to create these micro manufacturing facilities, keeping them underneath the radar of labor unions, which helped drive these jobs to China in the first place.

It wasn’t “labor unions” that drove jobs overseas. It was greedy corporate executives. Less they pay workers = more they receive in bonuses and perks.

Do the math.

By fearless fosdik

September 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

By bubbatech02

You state “barack has been too busy campaigning for president instead of doing his job in the senate.”

The truth is BUBBA that McCain was absent when Jim Webb’s GI Bill passed the Senate with a bipartisan majority, 75-22. Clinton and Obama were both there, but McCain is in California today on the fundraising trail.

McCain In the last year, has been a no show for every vote on a crucial piece of renewable energy legislation.

A voting record one could be proud of ..NOT!

By hillbilly ragger

September 9, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Bubbuhtech02, you claim the “voted 90% with bush” business “is a stupid statistic with misconstrued and mischaracterized data designed to influence ignorant people.”

Hmm.

Tell you what—if your side can admit that the National Journal’s weird-a ss ranking that magically and conveeeeniently declared both John Kerry AND Barack Obama as the “most liberal senators” in the years when they happened to be running for President is, indeed, a “a stupid statistic with misconstrued and mischaracterized data designed to influence ignorant people,” I might go for that.

But not before.

By Hmmmmm

September 9, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Bubbatech02 You can’t talk rational to a left winger…… It’s just fun watching them squirm! These blogs are the best, when I am feeling down, I can always get a good laugh from our friends on the left….. Since the Governor from the great state of Alaska has hit the news, these left wingers have become scared,,,, VERY SCARED! It’s a beautiful thing to behold!

By fearless fosdik

September 9, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Another thing I’d add to my previous post BUBBA is that ….

John McCain has been the Senator with the worst attendance record in the 110th Congress. As of last month, he had missed over 60 percent of votes. That is a worse attendance record than Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) who had a minor little issue: a brain hemorrhage.

Gee BUBBA why do little things like the facts get in the way?

By The banditry of punditry.

September 9, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

“Where’s the beef did very well for Mondale”. Only someone who doesn’t understand our culture would have written, “Where’s the beef?”

I know Sarah Palin is a very beautiful woman, and she beats the horse faces and cows that most women become in their forties, especially cheese-eating liberal women.

McCain took a chance on Sarah Palin , and the least we can do is take a chance on McCain. What have we got to lose?

McCain 08: take a chance; what have U got 2 lose?

McCain 08: Really, what have you got to lose? (except a horseface)

By DebbieDoRight

September 9, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Where is it written in the constitution that our government is there to take care of our bad decisions from taking mortgages that we can’t afford to having children that we can’t afford?

Where is it written in the constitution that the people must pay for the “bad decisions” that companies like Enron, etc., make? From saturating the market with junk bonds from stealing from their employees?

Why are we paying subsidies to big corporations and letting them get an almost “free” walk on the billions of tax dollars that they are witholding? Why hasn’t the Big Oil paid ONE THIN DIME in taxes, when they’re making upwards to 56 BILLION (with a “b”) dollars a month?

Do you think it has something to do with the President and Vice President and the Former President (Daddy Bush) having sleeping with Big Oil?

By COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall

September 9, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Dear concerned citizens of America and mass media of the U.S.A. [Look into McCain-palin sad, unfortunate, and tragic blunders of dividing this on religoius and cultural basis]

McCain-palintalk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity,lies and impulsivity? [Danger to country and countries needs and challenges. Is Mccain-Palin ticket dividing us and instigating a permanet cultural clash within our country. The US, USA, and McCain-palin will should repent now before it is too late. Their attempts to do this to our Greatgrand Nation will fail and once the Media will start doing due deligent duty and cut thru the cloud so called M. Mccain has created.
As a Independent registered voter I have decided to vote for the Obama-Biden ticket. I am sure they will protect our national security, strengths, stamina and soul as well as rebuild our nation from the bottom up in all areas of need. The OBAMA-BIDEN ticket will restore our global standing with the use of maximum, firm international diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated.

PS: This nation will not buy into the kitchen sink strategy. We are getting deeper into internal and external holes through these attacks and the world is laughing at us as they enjoy our partisan Pitt Bull wounds. I am sure the collective deceptive measures of the GOP, RNC, FOX, RUSH, ROVE, McCain, and his surrogates will fail to deprive American voters of their deserved leadership to address the critical internal and external needs of our Greatgrand Nation. Our Nation does not need cultural war[s] at this critical time. I hope and pray that media will intervene and prevent us going in that direction.

By TW

September 9, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Sarah Palin is an IQ test.

By Hmmmmm

September 9, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

See Bubbatech02

The retired Col. just made my DAY! What a GREAT country we live in!

By The banditry of punditry.

September 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

sarah palin is an IQ test? Sure, I look at her and I hope I score in the 38’s.

whatababe…whatababe….whatababe.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 9, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

McCain and Palin on Monday played up their opposition to federal spending specially directed by lawmakers, known as earmarks, while accusing Obama of supporting nearly $1 billion in earmarks for Illinois while a U.S. senator.

Obama hasn’t asked for any earmarks this year. Last year, his campaign said he sought $311 million in earmarks.

Porker?

Heh.

By walter

September 9, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

There is no change when you have lobbyists running your campaign. I think Obama said it perfectly during his acceptance speech. “Enough.”

You can take the campaign slogan from your rivals but this campaign is about much more than a slogan.

Obama / Biden 2008. The real change for America.

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

The way to culture wars is through wealth distribution. No way anyone can state it that by increasing the tax only on the richest 5% amounts to nothing more than shared wealth. That is not the structure of our economy. Someone please tell me why it is that people who make over 250,000 should be taxed a higher percentage than those who do not. You people need to invest some of your wasted time hating the person with the view instead of teh view and enroll in some political science and economic classes. The things Obama is wanting to do go against everything written in any of those classes’ books. Taking from teh rich and giving to the poor never gives the poor the motivation to improve their status. However if you take from those who pay salaries, then guess what they are going to take back some of those salaries to make up for their losses. Once again somethng i learned in ECON 2202, that is a soph. class in college. So if you truely want to incite a classwar, take from teh working and give to the not. It is people’s choice to give to charity or not, but Sen. Obama thinks that he should be teh one to decide what I do with my hard earned money.

By Jeff

September 9, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

McCain was not my first choice…I wanted Huckabee and the Fair Tax not McCain and citizenship for a bunch of illegals…which by the way will happen under an Obama adminstration. That is the real change this country needs. A tax system based on consumption and not a system that penalizes the hard working and rewards the lazy. Given all of his shortcomings, I do believe that McCain will be the better of the two presidential candidates. This country does not need any more taxes. We do not need socialized medicine. We do not need liberal supreme court judges. We do not need to give citizenship to 20 million illegals. We do not need someone who is so indecisive that they cannot even vote a simple yes or no. We need to get out of Iraq but we need to do so when we have completed our job there. We do not need to cut and run. We need to re-examine why half of the population feels it is ok to take the life of child yet feel compelled to voice their opinions on the evils of war. We need to drill all of our oil reserves…ANWAR and off the coast.

By TC

September 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRIght: It wasn’t in the constitution. We shouldn’t be forced into paying for someone else’s bad decisions with our tax money. If you want to contribute to the income of that person on your own terms, that is your choice. It just should not be forced on everyone.

By TW

September 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Palin made rape victims in Wasilla pay for the rape kit???

By fearless fosdik

September 9, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

By The banditry of punditry

“Your simplistic…

“whatababe…whatababe….whatababe, comment says a lot about you! No substance!

If that is a reason to vote for someone perhaps my girlfriend should be V.P.

Much better looking, and she hasn’t popped out five kids!

By getalife "whiners"

September 9, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Insanity:

“No way, no how, no McCain, no Palin”.

Hillary Clinton.

By Paul

September 9, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Jay,

‘he has tried to separate himself from the unpopular President Bush, but that’s a move of purely symbolic importance.’

That’s not symbolic, it’s critical. Obama has made a calculated effort to link Pres Bush’s unpopularity to McCain. I first saw this firsthand at an early Obama rally I attended in a filled-to-the-top convention center. When he tried out the “McCain-Bush” line the audience went wild. I thought it intellectually dishonest but politically effective.

“motivated by an instinct to seek military solutions first and other approaches later.”

When has he ever advocated a military solution as the first recourse?

“On economic matters, I see no difference whatsoever between the approaches of Bush and McCain,”

First, the obligatory vote on the tax cuts. Now go into the treatment of earmarks; the approach to fiscal discipline (willingness to accept deficits); proposing health care reform that would essentially break the back of the employer-provided system; proposing huge government subsidies for alternate energy development and investment (gov’t spending of that magnitude, rather than leaving it to “the free market” ) is an economic matter; the integration of undocumented workers into our system (again, huge economic implications) – I think there is substantial difference.

Social issues – abortion – for me that’s a yawner.

“meaning that little or nothing would change in agencies such as the Environmental Protection Agency”

Have you been following his statements on required action regarding global warming? Other environmental protections? “meaning that little or nothing would change in agencies such as the… Justice Department,”

Surely you’re familiar with his record on opposition to torture – a Bush policy promulgated largely by the Justice Department?

So I see substantial policy differences between Sen McCain and Pres Bush. Problem is, many of McCain’s and Obama’s positions are not all that dissimilar. So evidently Obama would rather take the road of playing off dissatisfaction with Pres Bush (deciding the election on personality) than having a debate on specific differences with McCain.

Mrs. Godzilla

Regarding the ‘half of the people don’t pay income tax’ – make it a third, as of 2004. Given the trends in the last tax changes, it could well be closer to half, now.

Link: Tax payments

By Jake

September 9, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Jay, thanks for the abortion comment. we’ve had 8 years of an anti-abortion pres, six of them with a repub congress and abortion is still quite legal. Mrs. God - Most Americans want to deport the 20 million illegal aliens, why don’t either of the candidates?

By Heather

September 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Of course McCain/Palin have jumped up in support. It’s what happens immediately after a convention. But next we, the American people, get to vett the candidates through debates. The issue aren’t who is more corrupt or who billed the taxpayers for what, but the issues.

How in the world can anyone blindly throw themselves behind a ticket before hearing them debate the issues?

Whether you believe in creationism or evolution, you HAVE to believe we are not lemmings.

By Goldie

September 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

I will take four more years of Bush any day over four more years of “Goober”Carter

Brad— you’re what’s known as a member of the 30% Club. Love your W and this big ditch he’s put America in, hmmm?

By tiff

September 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

Within the next three-to-four weeks we will find out that Palins supposed down syndrone baby is not really hers. The truth is already out there and some media outlet is gonna get someone who knows the truth to blab the whole story. They may even get that redneck boyfriend of her daughter to tell the truth. The problem is they don’t want it to look like the media is beating up on her. Notice how they keep her close to McCain so she can never answer any serious question. She has given the same ol hockey mom speech/joke since the convention, she sounds like a broken tape recorder. The media is just waiting to let her put her feet all the way into the fire. Then they are going to burn her. The fact that the baby is not hers should not matter to us. The fact that Palin would go this far to cover up a deliberate lie, should matter to us. We have had lies and dishonesty in this Bush administration for the last 8 years “WE NEED CHANGE”. Not only are they liars they are also thieves. They stole Obama’s campaign slogan. All these polls say McCain has taken a lead over Obama, because of Palin. If any of you remember how it was when Beckum came to America all the hype and hoopla about him, and now no one gives a hoot about him. Palin will be the same in a couple of weeks. Every hear a man talk about a woman they picked up in a night club, slept with her and the next morning they wanted to throw-up. That’s the Palin effect, the novelty will wear off in the next couple of weeks.

Obama/Biden 08

By Hmmmmm

September 9, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Way to go Jeff, I couldn’t have said it better!

All you “libs” have a nice day!

By RH

September 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Jay, you just don’t get it!

By GodHatesTrash

September 9, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

L-o-l-a - another oil man

And Governor of America’s biggest welfare state

Of the 50 states, Alaska ranks No. 1 in taxes per resident and No. 1 in spending per resident. Its tax burden per resident is 21/2 times the national average; its spending, more than double. *The trick is that Alaska’s government spends money on its own citizens and taxes the rest of us to pay for it. Although Palin, like McCain, talks about liberating ourselves from dependence on foreign oil, there is no evidence that being dependent on Alaskan oil would be any more pleasant to the pocketbook*.

Alaska is, in essence, an adjunct member of OPEC. It has four different taxes on oil, which produce more than 89% of the state’s unrestricted revenue. On average, three-quarters of the value of a barrel of oil is taken by the state government before that oil is permitted to leave the state. Alaska residents each get a yearly check for about $2,000 from oil revenues, plus an additional $1,200 pushed through by Palin last year to take advantage of rising oil prices. Any sympathy the governor of Alaska expresses for folks in the lower 48 who are suffering from high gas prices or can’t afford to heat their homes is strictly crocodile tears.

*As if it couldn’t support itself, Alaska also ranks No. 1, year after year, in money it sucks in from Washington. *

In 2005 (the most recent figures), according to the Tax Foundation, Alaska ranked 18th in federal taxes paid per resident ($5,434) but first in federal spending received per resident ($13,950). Its ratio of federal spending received to federal taxes paid ranks third among the 50 states, and in the absolute amount it receives from Washington over and above the amount it sends to Washington, Alaska ranks No. 1.

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Tiff that is quit the accusation to make without the first bit of proof. Especially pictures of Gov. Palin pregnant. But I am sure with all of your vast knowledge you know the truth, what a joke. This is not even what any of this election is about. You do know it is very common for women in their 40’s to give birth to babies with disorders right. Guess you should be thankful that you did not say anything bad about Obama, you know he has a history of wanting to press criminal charges against those who say bad things about him.

By hillbilly ragger

September 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 12:39 PM, while I guess one might ask with some justification why we should fret about a significant percentage of Americans not paying Federal income taxes (my reaction is a big “so what? I’m glad I make enough to reach into income brackets that ARE on the hook to pay taxes, and I’ll gladly fork over the money if I think it’s being well spent.”)

But let’s assume that this is a problem, that more Americans should be contributing part of their income to the Federal government.

Fact is, such people a likely to be contributing a rather significant percentage of their income (14%) to FICA and Medicare. Yes, those are specific insurance programs to which these people may one day draw from, but in other countries, such programs are drawn from general revenue.

So, I don’t buy the notion that non-filers “don’t pay income taxes.” If you earn wage income in the US, I think it’s fair to say that you do, in fact, pay taxes.

By Shawny

September 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Take off your partisan blinders, Bookman, and pay attention. If you do, you will see vast differences.

McCain has said that he would put democrats in cabinet positions. McCain has shown time and time again that he can disagree with Bush on many policies…remember stem cell research…climate change… privacy…torture….shall I continue?

Wake up and get your nose out of MoveOn’s arse.

By No smarter than 8 years ago

September 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

No McCain and his right wing VP choice won’t make the changes our country needs to move forward in the 21st century and it’s beyond hypocritical of them even to suggest it. But he may still win this election. Why? Just read many of the comments by Repubs - they have so many of the facts wrong. They must be listening to Rush, Hannity and O’Reilly . Are we better off than 8 years ago - of course not! Are we smarter than 8 years ago - sadly no.

By RealityKing

September 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

This year there were 1 million abortions in the USA, same number last year. 40 million since Roe v Wade!

No matter what you call it.., I just can’t support that.

By Peadawg

September 9, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

No smarter than 8 years ago:

No you’re wrong, we DO have the facts: Obama’s policies: tax more spend more government run healthcare(go ask someone in Canada how that’s working out) no drilling give citizenship to illegal immigrants

did I miss anything?????

By hillbilly ragger

September 9, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Actually, Shawny, you should continue. You mentioned

“remember stem cell research…”

…but he just told everyone at Saddleback that a “baby gets human rights” “at the moment of conception”. How can you have human rights, how can you consider a fertilized egg a “baby” yet say it’s ok to dissect for scientific research? Sounds like he’s just as conflicted as Bush on this.

“climate change… “

Shows windmills in his ads. Other than that, doesn’t appear to be willing to put up any cold hard cash to promote alternative energy beyond his wacky 300 million dollar battery contest.

“privacy…”

uh, where? He’s been right in line with Bush on FISA.

“torture…”

That’s the saddest of all; it gives me no pleasure to see that McCain went from being an articulate spokesman against its practice to going silent on the issue. He voted with Bush to allow the CIA to torture (actually voting against a bill that would’ve required that the CIA follow Army field manual practices.)

“.shall I continue?”

Please do. Seriously, I’m glad you gave it a go, but I’m not hearing anything that’s really representative of change from the Bush Administration.

By SteveJj

September 9, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

McCain will bring a big stick to Washington in Sarah Palin. McCain is not afraid to reach across political lines to ask for help. McCain is not Bush and he will be a change in Washington. It will not be the same old politics like it is in most rural Georgia counties.

By GOD 1st, FAMILY 2nd, FRIENDS 3rd, COUNTRY 1ST ONLY IN THE OLYMPICS

September 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

It’s so funny that 90% of people blogging fits the low income class status, the tax cuts Mccain are offering will only really affect people making over 2 million a year. Why wouldnt any sensible person or let me say American want the biggest cuts to the poor versus the rich? I dont know where the stupid idea that if we tax the wealthy corporations, then they’ll stop making all these new inventions because they’re paying higher taxes. Thats bull, they still love money and will continue to prosper. You even have some top athletes that’ll switch to republican once they get paid and they’re main reason is to save money in the new tax bracket they’re in. Fu$% the sweat shops over seas, these corporations need to spend the money here on american workers, they’re already getting major tax breaks and they still want the cheap way out!……Sickening!!! To make it plain and simple, someone please look up and post what Mccain considers middle class and then you will see how out of touch he is…Its not all peachy out here in these streets like it appears to be in congress

By CJ

September 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

The Official John McCain Flip-Flop List, continually updated as necessary, is currently up to 76 flip-flops.

Enjoy!

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

So hillbilly you pay taxes if you get them taken out of wages only to recieve a check later that gives you the money you paid in back. Also what about those that do not earn wages, they pay no taxes only handouts. Why should teh government tell me how to donate my charity. With Obama’s new tax plan to continue the life style that I have worked so hard to give my family I will have to cut out all donations to charities. Next time you are on a lunch break go through the section 8 housing district in your community and see how many able bodies are doing nothing but hanging out on your money. Some people just do not like being told that they will give to charity, because thats what this is charity.

By GS

September 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Jay, to answer you question: I don’t think McCain will significant change. And that’s a good thing. America doesn’t need sweeping socialist changes when the rest of the world is throwing off the economic shackles of socialism.

Obama’s claims to promote change are, too, a lot of hot air. A lot of his “changes” are u-turns. For example, he wants to strengthen unions at a time when America’s manufacturing sector is already at a disadvantage.

One thing that Obama will certainly change is the gridlock in Washington. With his party firmly in control, he can get anything Pelosi and Reid want passed and signed into law.

By Roe v Wade is here to stay

September 9, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE, Roe V. Wade will never be overturned. The Repubs need that issue to remain on the table so they can haul it out every four years to rally the “deaf, dumb and blind” vote of the far right extremists. How many elections is it going to take before you realize you’re just being used? Roe V. Wade is here to stay so find another excuse why you aren’t going to vote for Obama.

By tiff

September 9, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

tcoach, since you don’t even know who I am, or where i’m from. How do you know I don’t have any knowledge about what I posted? And don’t answer my question with a question. Just answer my question. Remember all the ugly things they said about Obama on the blogs, did you take up for him. I know the answer to that “NO”. You side with who you want to side with and I will do the same. Don’t tell me this is your America and not mine, the way McCain and Palin states in all their speeches. The hippocracy that comes out of the republican camp is sickening.

By No Samter than 8 years ago

September 9, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Still no smarter than 8 years ago and Peadawg just proved my point. Thanks buddy

By fearless fosdik

September 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

By Shawny

Yes Shawny .. Please continue with your nonsense…..

John McCain opposed the Democratic proposal that would apply the Department of Defense Field Manual to the CIA. Where was McCain on climate change … He didn’t VOTE! Privacy? What are you referring to? McCain authored a bill on immigration, then turned around and voted against it!

Are you kidding me?

Democrats in the cabinet..Duh, JOE LIEBERMAN!

By No smarter than 8 years ago

September 9, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

“Still no smarter than 8 years ago” and Peadawg just proved my point. Thanks Buddy.

By fearless fosdik

September 9, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

By hillbilly ragger

SALUTE..You beat me to the punch!

By hillbilly ragger

September 9, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

“So hillbilly you pay taxes if you get them taken out of wages only to recieve a check later that gives you the money you paid in back.”

sometimes yes, sometimes not. Kind of like the way it works with other services you pay for with your taxes.

“With Obama’s new tax plan to continue the life style that I have worked so hard to give my family I will have to cut out all donations to charities”

tcoach, are you seriously telling us you fall into the category that would see their taxes rise? this is around 250K for joint filers, around 2/3 that for single-filers.

And it’s for the income ABOVE that level, not below it.

I mean, seriously? You’re making that kind of scratch, but another 3.6% on income above 250K will make you unable to contribute anything to charity? really?

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Tiff, So tell me you angry sole. When did I say this is my America, or was that a premature attack. I’ll ask do you have knowledge are you from alaska. The reason I assumed you did not was because you said in three to four weeks, I assumed that if you had proof you would leak it sooner than that. Admit it for what it is a viscous lie without the first bit of proof. I also did speak up for Obama, not often and never regularly. I did just the same. Do you even know a single issue and the candidates stance on it. Also I did not feel as much of a need to take up for Obama because as a rule the liberals are way more rude and disrespectful than the conservatives. Just look at the protest during the convention. You are nothing more than a hateful bitter person trying to spread lies and untruths about another person. Why, just tell me why tell a bold faced lie, what proof do you have. Anything or are you just angry and worried that if Obama does not get elected we will all have to pay for health care just like any other service.

By jasper

September 9, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Boy the rancor in here is as thick as the facts are thin. So what do you think the odds are that Ole’ Joe Biden becomes incapaciated. Will it be him or his wife that suffers a terrible affliction of some sort, only to make a miraculous recovery just outside of the short attention span zone.

Rudy said it best, “hope he got his nomination in writing”.

By T

September 9, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

By tcoach

Well, not until this past years did I see a good size check back, but then I am a full time student and I work full time. Disagree, if you want, but man did that come in handy.

I do agree with you about those whom live soley off the government. It is beyond shamefull when a healthy person mooches off someone else.

By jasper

September 9, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Lighten up libbies. Did you hear about the Sara Palin action figures released today. One in camos with a hunting rifle, the other in business suite with a revolver strapped to her thigh.

Can’t wait for Captain Zero, complete with tire gauge and capable of prying away guns and bibles from the clinging arms of typical white people.

By Copyleft

September 9, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

I see that STILL, no one can answer Jay’s original question: How is McCain “different” from Bush?

You reply with more attacks on Obama, which doesn’t answer the question.

Really, you folks are getting very good at non-answers. Have you considered becoming press secretaries?

By Midori

September 9, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

lol - someone complaining about rancor quoting Rudy “a noun+a verb+9/11” Guiliani!!

LOL!!

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Yes hillbilly because I fall into the group of those that own a small business. So the less publicized fact that business owners will also have to pay the tax. This means my total income will end up being taxed about 50%. So yes my 11-18% hike in my taxes will cause me to not be able to give to many of the charities I once did. Who do you people think it is that donates large sums to charities poor people.

By Midori

September 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Copyleft: I nominate Jasper. A side benefit is he likes to play with dolls.

By hillbilly ragger

September 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

By RealityKing @ 1.13, I would ask you to search high and low and find me someone on the right OR left who is pleased that there were “1 million abortions in the USA, same number last year. 40 million since Roe v Wade!”

I’m staunchly pro-choice, but I’d rather the number were much lower, myself. I just think it’s unrealistic to imagine you’ll ever eliminate abortions, no matter how much support and encouragement women may have at their disposal from private (i.e., family, church, charities) and publicly-funded resources.

But what does that have to do with the topic at hand? How does McCain bring change, even on this topic? At best he appoints judges that overturn Roe. And you might have a few states passing laws that criminalize the procedure.

Is that really such a great outcome? and is that “change,” given that such a trajectory was already set with Bush’s judicial appointments?

Anyway, just something to chew on. Be back later, gotta put food on my family.

By Taxpayer

September 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

I think that the United States of America should consider a name change to something like the United Sovereign States of the Republic. After all, we are looking more and more like some strange blend of Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Capitalist, and Theologian entities with each passing day.

By Toofunny

September 9, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

@Earl…all things that happen aren’t through God…sweetie.

By jasper

September 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Midori - hey I already listed 3 or 4 specific items of McCain change way back up in this vomitous mass.

For whatever its worth. Jay’s just playing us all for fools in this spew theater. It’s still fun though, isn’t it.

By Jake

September 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Will the real candidate of change please stand up? You know, the one that will deport the illegals. The one that will eliminate the two party system and the associated graft, pork, and lobbyist system from the government. The one that will rebuild America’s infrastructure instead of spending billions on Iraq or Africa. The one that will balance the budget. The only real change cnandidate running. The one named Bob Barr!!!!

By tiff

September 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

tcoach, you still did not answer my question. I asked you one question and you could not even answer it. If i’m the one so angry, why is all the steamy name calling coming from you. Talk about hate and venom. Maybe you will be one of the few that make it to Alaska during the end times.

By tiff

September 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

tcoach, you still did not answer my question. I asked you one question and you could not even answer it. And since you won’t answer me I will cut you off. If i’m the one so angry, why is all the steamy name calling coming from you. Talk about hate and venom. Maybe you will be one of the few that make it to Alaska during the end times.

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Tiff what question did you ask I looked twice but could not find. What exactly is it you want to know.

By Paul

September 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Hillbilly Ragger 12:58

It is a central tenet of our tax system that those with more pay more. The situation we see today is why I doubt we’ll ever see significant reform, as taxes are used not solely to provide the funds to run government programs and services, but as a means of social dabbling – income redistribution, buying allegiance – call it what you will.

What I find troubling is those who are considered ‘middle class’ increasingly fall into the category of ‘no tax payments.’ I suppose this brings up the ‘rights and responsibilities’ aspect. People want rights, but what are the responsibilities? Is it appropriate to have nearly everyone contribute something, even if a pittance, to reinforce the idea “I am part of this society and I give as well as receive.”

Language is corrupted – talk of giving a ‘tax cut’ to a household is not a cut – even calling it a credit is a misnomer – but people of average means would bristle at the idea they are in effect receiving a form of welfare. Welfare is what poor people, those down and out, or large corporations receive – not average families.

Glad to see you brought up Social Security – but those funds are designated for a program, not into the General Fund (in spite of the games our Congress likes to play - “hey, where did that surplus go?”). But for the sake of consistency in discussion the two are normally separated – income tax and social security tax.

Hillbilly ragger 1:16 fearless fosdik 1:34

I believe Sen Obama voted for the Administration’s last FISA bill which gave immunity to telecoms and, some assert, did not control warrantless wiretaps.

The Army Field Manual provision regarding ‘torture’ is essentially meaningless. I rather wonder if Democrats have not taken effective action so they can continue to have a big issue. The Executive runs the Army. They write the manual. It can be changed at any time to include practices some find detestable – but it’s in the manual so it’s okay. If the manual were rewritten it would lead to Dem’s favorite legislative action – more hearings! They could have written legislation approving or disapproving specific actions, but they didn’t. So the Congressional Theater continues.

Copyleft 1:49

Please see my 12:39.

By ray

September 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

change is a funny word.many younger and middleclass families want it,but are afraid of it.Bush/McCain will not promote change because they owe to much to the lobbyist in Washington.Obama on the other hand, whether you call him private Obama or not is not tied to the corporate corruption thus the Republicans will do or say anything to stop this real change we are seeing

By ray

September 9, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

change is a funny word.many younger and middleclass families want it,but are afraid of it.Bush/McCain will not promote change because they owe to much to the lobbyist in Washington.Obama on the other hand, whether you call him private Obama or not is not tied to the corporate corruption thus the Republicans will do or say anything to stop this real change we are seeing

By ghost rider

September 9, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Paul, you say “The Army Field Manual provision regarding ‘torture’ is essentially meaningless.”

Please explain …

By tcoach

September 9, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Ray you do know Obama is 3rd on gifts recieved with over 120,000 from the two bank and loans the government just bailed out and took over operations for right. So how does he not have ties to special interest groups. Guess it is better to take money froma convicted fellon and self-proffessed terrorist than from a special interest anyway.

By RW-(the original)

September 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

ghost rider,

If you read the rest of Paul’s paragraph he did explain.

By Paul

September 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

ghost rider 2:49

Manuals change regularly. They list policies and procedures. When circumstances change, they get rewritten.

So the Democratic Congress writes a law to prevent torture and their guidance is the only permissible actions are those listed in the manual.

The Army (which falls under the Executive) rewrites the manual, which does not require the consent of the Congress, and adds or deletes certain actions.

The result, or course, will be outrage in Congress and a new round of hearings trumpeting “Bush tortures.” Which is why I can cynically offer that many key Democrats aren’t all that concerned about stopping torture once and for all. They want a continuation of political theater.

By Unclebuck

September 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Jay- Do you have any new material? This is about as hacky as it gets. Same sh..it different day. McCain sucks and Obama is GOD. I wish I had a job where I didnt have to think about what I was doing everyday and just spit out the same boring sh..it.
I am getting the picture on why the AJC’s readership is going down the focking drain.

By Ally

September 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

No matter. Once Obama is elected, he will call for Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rove, and the other members of Murder Inc. to be dragged before the Hague and charged as the war criminals they are. Life in prison is way too lenient for these murdering slugs.

By swolf4810

September 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Perhaps McCain was refering to his Depends

By Willie

September 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Hey conservatives, if you listen to Ms Godzilla and the others they get their mis-information from the new times,washington post, and the internet. We all know you have to very careful about really getting correct info from the internet. They will post a link in a hurry too! LMAO! Like it really makes it true. I WANT TO BLOG ABOUT PELOSI Has she lied to us? Did she do anything yet. She is third in line to the presidency..right? What has PELOSI done that is better than Bush. I want to know! Of course I will not go to Ms Godzilla’s links to get my answers…liberal biased media!

By Ms.Tucker If ur nasty!

September 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Oh McCain’s going to change the direction this country’s heading alright, we’re headed south now, if he takes over, we’ll be going in a southwesterly direction.

By ghost rider

September 9, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

By Paul

September 9, 2008 3:08 PM

Paul…Thank you!

By ButtHead

September 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

If my resume was as thin as Obama’s I would not even apply for the job.

By 2thousand33

September 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

McCain supported the invasion of Iraq when he knew it was unjustified. He selects a religous nut as his running mate and, isn’t it about time for his cancer to return? His judgement and lack of foresight is abominable!!! Iraq alone makes him highly unqualified. All other claims of support are IRRELEVANT. If you want war, vote for the war-monger. If you want a chance at peace, vote for anyone else.

By Frederick Douglass

September 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Why wasn’t Bobby Jindal Mccain’s VP choice? The guy’s the governor of a state that’s populated by more people than wildlife, he’s young, he’s educated, he’e faced diversity, he’s eminently more qualified than the light weight Sarah Palin. What you people on these blog pages won’t ever admit, is that McCain’s age precludes having a VP that looks like a terrorist, ditto for Obama’s name and ethnicity.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

September 9, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Jay, just because a person does not say that which you prefer they did does not mean that the person has said nothing. Here is what I have heard McCain say: a) strong fight against terrorists; b)reduce taxes; b) put originalists on th SC; c) clean up corruption; d) reach across aisle to reduce partisanship. Now each of those things are plausible within McCain’s character and past performance. Obama on the other hand - was going to let the Bush tax cuts expire before he agreed they should stay intact; was going to immediately withdraw fron Iraq before he decided to stay the Bush course - guess its becoming apparent who is the bush clone on who is the true MAVERICK.

By Salty Dog

September 9, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

If my resume was as thin as Obama’s I would not even apply for the job.

It’s funny that you mentioned this since Obama said nearly the identical thing. When asked whether he would run for president, Obama said that when he applied for a job he wanted to be qualified for the job and suggested that at that time (right after he became a U.S. Senator) he didn’t feel qualified.

What a difference a few days make.

By The banditry of punditry.

September 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

The SnowWitch. Part four.

The SnowWitch had stunned her constituency with a one word speech, “change”, which was delivered without a salutation or closing, making it even shorter than anything ever delivered by the Black Knight, who had suddenly lost his mandate. The Black Knight had challenged the SnowWitch to a debate, which the cowardly SnowWitch kept avoiding, prompting the Black Knight to label his opponent as the “Yellow SnowWitch”.

On the appointed day, The Black Knight stood before the pointy heads of the Land of the Pundits, ready to deliver his counter-speech to the Yellow SnowWitch’s one-word speech. He approached the mic. He leaned forward and said, “911”. He turned, mounted his Black Stallion and rode off.

THe crowd stood stupified, and astonished. Moments passed. Not a word. Then, someone in the back of the crowd muttered softly, “this changes everything”. This was heard by others near him and they repeated it until the whole crowd of pointy heads was shouting in unison, “This changes everything! This changes everything!”

The Black Knight had regained his mandate and was once again certain to be chosen chief of the pointy heads in the land of the Pundits.

The SnowWitch was furious, and she retreated to her lair. She cursed and threw things and pulled at her hair. Then, she looked closely at herself in the mirror, and chanted, “Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all.”

A face appeared in the mirror that was not the SnowWitch’s. “U R”.

“Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the most cursory of them all?” The face in the mirror stuttered, “w-w-well, U were”.

“WHAT HAPPENED? WHY DIDN’T YOU THINK OF SAYING “911”? Die, mirror, DIE!”

The SnowWitch grabbed her wolf-hunting rifle and emptied it into the mirror shattering it into a thousand pieces….she laid down the rifle, and walked over to a wolf’s head mounted on the wall, and pointed with her right index finger, and said, “Speak to me”.

THe wolf’s head’s eyes flashed alive and then it spoke: “Yes, mistress”.

“Can you tell me how to trump the Black Knight’s speech? What is shorter than numbers? What can I say to gain entrance to the big white house in the land of the pundits?”

The wolf howled. Then it whelped. Then, it just froze. The SnowWitch’s trigger finger became real itchy and she reached for a box of .222 shells in order to reload her rifle. But she stopped short when the wolf said……2Bcontinued.

By Common Sense

September 9, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

TO Jeff:

Please Tell what is our job in Iraq? Since you stated we should not leave before our job is done!

Was it to remove Saddam?

Liberate the people of Iraq?

Acquire their oil leases for our Major Oil companies?

Send the country into turmoil?

To: TC economic models have to evolve and change in order for the coutnry to survive.

As you can see their is a widening of the gap between rich and poor. Sooner or later when people have not hope they rebel!

When corporate CEO’s can still give paid huge bonus and severance pay after the company has major losses and all the employees are laid off that is a mojor problem.

I am not for taxing classes, but as you can see no it does not stop companies from laying off employees.

The model needs to be tweaked and changed so we can compete and spread wealth thru-out America.

Also a lot of wealthy people receive their money from the GOVERNMENT ( Which means tax payers) If you don’t want the government to raise your taxes the do not expect to acquire GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS!

By Obama Says He's Not Qualified to be President

September 9, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

I’m one who believes in “knowing what you are doing when applying for a job and if I were to consider running on a national ticket I would have to start now before having served a day in the senate, some people might be comfortable doing that but I’m not one of those people. (Nov. 2004)” — Barack Obama, Interview on CNN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM&NR=1

By Chestatee

September 9, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

The Republicans motto: “Only conservative Republicans can clean up this mess that conservative Republicans made over the last 8 years!”

By conservative independant

September 9, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Its really a silly question, isn’t it. Bush is Bush. McCain is McCain. We are electing a person, not a program or policy. Most “positions” and “promises” made by both sides are matters beyond the president’s ability to control or deliver. The choice is not Bush v. Obama - the choice is McCain v. Obama. Obama’s liberal worldview would be a disaster. McCain’s more centrist/conservative views are better. Blind change, the opposite of Bush’s view in all circumstances, is stupid.

By AMT

September 9, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Jeez Bookman,

You sound like a campaign ad for the Dem ticket. Have you ever had an original thought?

By DebbieDoRight

September 9, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

The Wolf said: “Illegal Aliens”. That oughta do it.

By Jake

September 9, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Common Sense - Now it’s to turn Iraq into a stable democracy. Do you think it’s bad for America that some of the French companies doing business in Iraq have been replaced by American companies? Are you suggesting the Obama led Democrat government will put an end to fat CEO bonuses? Thank god they don’t allow that in Communist China!

By Common Sense

September 9, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

You are right Butthead with your thin resume you would not get a job unless your cousin own the company, but if you are a HARVARD Graduate you write your won ticket!

Jealousy is really a weak emotion grow-up my friend and speak with some honesty and conviction it will do you a world of good!

By mike hussein smith

September 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

Well, Jay, I’d consider this pretty much a bust. You asked a good question, but nobody in the Good Ol’ White Boys network could understand it. Or maybe they didn’t have an answer so they just “changed” the question. Nothing I say will make a difference because so many of them make clear that they’d rather live with a lying government than to face up to the truth of the awful conditions created in this country by McCain and his cronies.

But, for the record: 1-Obama was co-author of the lobbying reform bill that was passed by Congress in 2007 and became law with President Bush’s signature. 2-Intelligent people don’t have to be told that Bush isn’t a member of the Senate. 2-McCain was for immigration reform until he “changed” his mind (last year). He was against the Bush tax cuts until he “changed” his mind and, as primary season approached, decided he’d better be for them. 3-McCain stated in 2002 that the Iraq War would be a cakewalk (how’s that for judgment?) but “changed” his mind in 2006 (after hundreds of GI deaths) and said he had known it would not be easy. 4-I know a few “facts” about Palin, but the most salient one is that SHE’S A LIAR.

By MauraHennessey

September 9, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this

I am as fiscally conservative as they come, colleagues believe that I have the words “Gold Standard” tattooed over my heart. But the GOP is simply financially reckless, all too eager to support fiscal buccaneers looking only for a short term gain….let alone this catastrophic “print and spend” policy….

We can take no more of the GOP’s over-testosteroned jingoistic adventurism, and that includes VP nominee “Caribou Barbie”