Jay Bookman

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Jay: You may not realize this but you just tagged the Republican smear machine in the very same column that you vindicated the democrats of everything.

So which is it?

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Jay

Let’s not forget the rumor that Obama is still friends with a domestic terrorist who bombed the Pentagon and as recently as 9/11 said he wished he had done a better job.

Ooops …….. sorry, that’s a FACT !!

By Davo

September 2, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Did McCain’s campaign get permission to use the theme music from the Benny Hill Show or what?

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Jay - P.S.

Rumor or Fact ?

“How many stories did we hear during the DNC about violent protests on the streets?

With the RNC barely under way we already have an entire delegation of Connecticut Republicans who were attacked by protestors. Then we get these anarchists who are throwing around benches and smashing windows of police cars.”

By findog

September 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Jay, Why are we still talking about this stuff? The Obama Campaign was improperly tied to Daily Ko’s by the Redstate bloggers. It is just a sad commentary on how little the people of America cherish their unique freedom of speech that they hide in the whispering corridors of the blogsphere to generate rumors. This can all be traced back to Richard Nixon. When he came down by the reporting of the Watergate scandal big fish hunting by the press magnified every transgression. And now with the Internet and the anonymity of blogs too many people speak and repeat the unspeakable. At some point polite society will have to take back over or we will eventually collapse as a modern day Babble.

By hillbilly ragger

September 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Snort. “Corporal” Klinger here actually believes Ayers bombed the Pentagon!

Anyway, Jay, thanks for reading the rancid Redstate site so we don’t have to. I’ll stick to Jim Wooten and his “BE CALM! ALL IS WELL!!” brand of right-wing denial.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

So is the Treason Times a part of the Obama Smear Machine or are we going to deny that too?

NY TIMES FEATURES 3 PAGE ONE STORIES ON PALIN’S TEEN DAUGHTER IN TUESDAY EDITIONS…

By actonjoe

September 2, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

I sure hope McCain and his advisors listened to Obama’s acceptance speech. Maybe they will be moved to keep out of the gutter for the next couple of months, as he urged. My God, wouldn’t that be wonderful, to have a presidential campaign focused on the issues, not merely on innuendo and smears? I think the American people are ready. Don’t forget who started running ads with Paris Hilton and Britney to mock Obama. There is a very long and sordid history of similar bottom-dweller tactics. Now, maybe, the Republicans might be ready to give up on posturing and smears and focus on issues. It might be a good tactic for them. Let’s see if they’re up to it…

By hillbilly ragger

September 2, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Hey LuckoTroool, speaking of “treason,” are you ok with Palin supporting rebel secessionists?

You suppose Biden ought to go easy on her about that during the debates, or is that topic off limits as well?

By sunshine and thunder

September 2, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Oh? So Bill Clinton is innocent of rape? It was just a Republican rumor?

I would remind Jay that a credible woman went on national TV and made a convincing argument that she was raped by the sitting president.

Bill Clinton.

Who, by the way, has NEVER denied the charge.

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

To HillbillyRagger:

Sorry, I meant planned.

But alas …….

“In 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to police casualties in the Haymarket Riot.”

“He told the New York Times in September 2001, “I don’t regret setting bombs…I feel we didn’t do enough.”

By Tom

September 2, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

A brilliant breakthrough! 3.8 hours in combat Hero McCain adds Moose-killin, Moose-munchin Mama to the mix. A backwoods hayshaker/woodchuck who’s never been anywhere, seen anything, had any life experiences will fulfill our needs and desires. But hey! She’s a hockey-mom! That should count. The entire family’s favorite hobby is killing animals. Pappy Chuck brags of his “more than 1000 sets of caribou antlers stacked in my driveway” (sic) and “unless you like small dead animals, you won’t wanta come ta my house.” (sic) So the family that slays together, stays together. And how about Geesussa?? Moose-Munchin Mama is a regular evangelical Bible-thumpin, cornpone messiah that won’t allow no abortions cause she’s got strong Christian family values and kids by the names of Trac, as in “tracker” and “Trig” as in trigger. Sounds strong and solid to me. Hmm. Could this possibly be John Wayne…in drag?? Either way, it’s what patriotic Murcun heroes need. Praise thee Lord!

By RW-(the original)

September 2, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

It seems to me like Redstate pretty well backs it’s claims with evidence. one would think it would follow that our host would have similarly debunked each claim rather than just going into a full throated rage in protection of The One.

Had the media investigated Obama they way are turning over every stone with regard to Sarah Palin’s family the guy wouldn’t be able to get a job as a dog catcher. Instead Jay and his pals investigate the Republican and investigate the detractors of the Democrat.

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Oh here you are Andy, I’ll repeat what I wrote to you on the other thread:

Andy,

Sarah Palin is not affording her the opportunity by accepting the nomination for VEEP.

And I’ll add:

If my daughter were going through this, I wouldn’t be running for VPOTUS. But that’s just me.

By Dusty

September 2, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Sorry, Jay, you slipped into the mud, just when you were looking better.

Can you verify the circumstances about the Chelsea joke? Sounds fishy to me.

Nothing fishy about the accusations being piled on Palin and her daughter. And that’s not a joke. Just libs trying to make criminals out of a family situation in order to win an election.

Which is the worst pronouncement? That someone LOOKS like pond scum or you ARE pond scum? Neither one is acceptable.

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

To hillbilly ragger:

I’m not saying I agree with this - I just like a good debate ………..

Just as a philosophical question, what’s wrong with any state (through a democratic process by the people of that state) wanting to peacefully leave the Union? Doesn’t the United States support that concept all over the world including former Soviet Georgia?

” ………. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

RW,

Get real. The media HAS turned over every stone with Obama. They just can’t find anything - except made up rumors worthy of the National Enquirer.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Cool, while the goon’s and hack’s were out gleefully playing on Obama’s Smear Machine, Thee Dimwit escaped from his closet and offered this idiocy:

I’VE GOT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN HER!

Let thee debate begin.

Bwahahahahahaha.

Losers.

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

To Tom:

Do you even know how many combat missions McCain flew ?

“Kept by better men than yourself” !

By ByteMe

September 2, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

RW: what you’re seeing is not “solid evidence”, but circumstancial evidence, some of it quite weak. C’mon “Obama has Kos in his RSS reader!” Jeez. Weak stuff overall. Now, I’m not saying that Obama staffers didn’t push the story behind the scenes. I’m just saying that this guy’s case is weak and unsubstantiated without knowing who his “sources” were. Which of course, we won’t and he doesn’t have to divulge them to anyone… unlike at a “mainstream media” outlet where the editor needs to know that the sources are good ones.

And if you think the media hasn’t looked into all those stupid rumors, you’re crazy. Scooping each other is what they do for sport. But it’s gotta be something that’s real. Made-up stuff doesn’t fly so well.

And Palin is indeed the new shiny toy for the media to play with. So she’s going to get tossed around, investigated under a microscope, etc. until we know more than we really wanted to know about certain aspects of her life. The more tittilating, the better, since that’s what sells newspapers and TV ads.

On the other hand, if she’s such a rock-solid candidate that everyone seems to love, why hasn’t she talked to the press since she was picked to be McCain’s running mate? I’ll bet she gets kept bottled up tighter than Dick Cheney’s undisclosed location.

… Ok, back to work.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Here is a good example of what’s going to happen in November-

When I was just starting out as a reporter, a wise old newspaper man told me his rule: Don’t ever write about their kids. Leave the kids alone, unless the child runs for office, or pulls down some fat government contract, or if the parent hauls them out as a shield before an indictment. Leave them alone, he said, because the kids don’t deserve it, because they’re civilians.

I took that to heart. And I know what it’s like to be on the receiving end. Some of you may remember that, years ago, white political thugs under federal investigation for city affirmative-action contract fraud—who had connections to both the mob and City Hall—asked me about my children.

The thugs came up to me in a restaurant and asked why they never saw my little boys playing outside my house. They let me know they were interested in my kids. The thugs showed me their teeth, as if smiling, but their eyes weren’t smiling. It was a message. It didn’t work, and I wrote about it. And I’ll never forget the thousands of e-mails and letters and calls that came to me from readers, many offering to stand in my driveway and watch out for my sons. My wife and I will never, ever forget your kindness.-John Cass, Chicago Tribune.

Thousands of people will be “standing in the Palin’s driveway” protecting their children from the thugs.

Thugs.

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Wow, this is troubling:

Aides to Mr. McCain said they had a team on the ground in Alaska now to look more thoroughly into Ms. Palin’s background. A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Ms. Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before Mr. McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice. The campaign was still calling Republican operatives as late as Sunday night asking them to go to Alaska to deal with the unexpected candidacy of Ms. Palin

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Bosch: You cannot manage two comment topics at once?

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

By Bosch September 2, 2008 11:08 AM Andy, Sarah Palin is not affording her the opportunity by accepting the nomination for VEEP.

The candidates families are running for office now?

And if so, why is Obama and kookman both trying to distance themselves form such behavior?

Do they know it is a big fat loser for them?

Like I do?

By MarrG

September 2, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Jay, I agree with you but in general we should all remember that there are lunatics and toxic personalities on both sides of the fence. Not to mention sexual and financial misbehavior. There are principled liberals and unprincipled liberals, principled conservatives and unprincipled conservatives. I try to ignore the idiots on both sides and give due consideration to the grownups. Getting mired in the t**-for-tat insult fiesta isn’t good for anyone.

By Paul

September 2, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Jay Sep 2/10:20 and Sep 1/5:24

Innuendo, rumors, gossip – based on no evidence or supposition - is wrong whether done by the left or the right. A key difference here, though, is Redstate paints itself as “the leading blog for right of center activists.” Ideology, not party. DailyKos, though, portrays itself as not a liberal blog, but a Democratic blog, embracing liberals, centrists and conservatives. They state their battle is not one of ideology. So your statement “you’re seeing claims that the existence of such nasty rumors somehow typifies liberals” would more properly read “you’re seeing claims that the existence of such nasty rumors somehow typifies conservative activists and Democrats.”

The latter part of that is in reference to your 5:24 of “The McCain campaign is trying to cast the announcement as a decision forced on the Palin family by squalid rumors in the left-wing blogosphere.” Actually, I believe DailyKos was the engine for the rumors – and the rumor was not just that the daughter was pregnant, but was in fact the mother of Gov Palin’s Downs-syndrome baby. That was an ugly rumor, without basis, which led to many despicable comments. I rather think the story of the daughter’s pregnancy was about to come out – Alaskan journalists were preparing to run the story. DailyKos attacks advanced the timetable.

But past bad behavior should not be used as justification for current bad behavior. Sen Obama did not reference any “well, Republicans and conservatives did it, too” in his condemnation of the conduct of those attacking the Palin family. He even cited his own mother – 18 when he was born – in his remarks.

So a larger issue, to me, is, if Sen Obama is about “change” – change in how gov’t operates, change in how political opponents come together for the common good, change in how issues are discussed, debated and resolved – if Sen Obama can’t even effect change in the conduct of his most ardent supporters, why should we think he can effect change on the Washington establishment?

Your Sep 1/7:34 am

I was pleased and amused by how you described the surge and its results. Pleased as it accurately portrayed its purpose – to create conditions for a government to act, not to force certain actions on that government. Amused as you somehow escaped all the vitriolic comments I received when I made such a point several months back.

Regarding all the hoopla over “experience.” Kinda funny, isn’t it? The campaign tactic Hillary used to no avail in the primary is now the tactic embraced by Democrats against Palin. It really degenerates into a “mine’s bigger” argument – citing essential inconsequential items to bolster a position – the state’s an insignificant backwater (shades of the Republican’s Arkansas-Clinton theme when Pres Clinton first ran) or “his days as Senator are more valid than hers as governor.”

Frankly, the very argument that the “best” presidential candidate is the one who has the most time as a Federal elected official (or possibly as a governor of an “important” state) is one I do not accept. That traps us into excluding anyone not in those categories. And I’m rather of the opinion some not in those categories might be a nice “change.”

By JAY BOOKMAN

September 2, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

To Dusty:

The incident is well-documented, to the degree that McCain was later forced to apologize for it after initially denying it happened.

From The Washington Post, June 16, 1998:

“Remember how President Clinton hotly claimed he wanted to punch New York Times columnist William Safire in the nose for writing that the first lady was “a congenital liar”?

Well, he doesn’t feel that way about Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), his sometime political ally. McCain has apologized to Clinton for the vile joke he told last week at the expense of Chelsea and Hillary Rodham Clinton and Attorney General Janet Reno. And the president has accepted. While declining to release the senator’s letter to the president, both sides are describing the apology as “abject, contrite and profuse.”

The joke — which McCain, through his press secretary, first denied telling — was too vicious to print, and not funny besides. But the Clintons have decided to play it down. The senator did not apologize directly to the first lady for the remark he made at a Republican Senate fund-raiser, and she won’t respond to the episode, said her press secretary, Marsha Berry.”

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

My pre Limbaugh show prediction-Unlike the democrats, Rush will take the high road and not attack Obama’s family.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

A Canadian speaks the truth that most of you are too blinded with rage to see:

In the long run, history will be kinder. Bush’s legacy will be based not on his intellect, nor on what becomes of New Orleans. It will turn on his signature project, the war in Iraq. Though the war itself was a mistake - at least in the clumsy, thoughtless way it was fought - an extraordinary new book has convinced me that Bush deserves enormous credit for turning the tide in what might have otherwise become the single greatest military disaster in American history.

Bwa.

By Dusty

September 2, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Oh my goodness…rebel secessionists!! Waahooo!!! Alaska will rise again???

What next?

When Sarah Palin was a child she belonged to the infamous Mickey Mouse Club??

Sarah Palin ONCE refused to eat SPINACH!!

Sarah Palin DID NOT USE chlorinated toothpaste.

Sarah Palin once made a joke about an UGLY MOOSE!!!

Sarah Palin did NOT claim that Gore’s hot air made glaciers melt in Alaska.

Sarah Palin did NOT say she was sorry the economy in Alaska was SO GOOD.

Sarah Palin may have said that the bridge-to-nowhere must be PelosiGate in SanFran. (rumor!)

Sarah Palin adopted a colored…..totem pole of many shades for her front yard.

Sarah Palin can shoot a moose at fifty yards but never a donkey ‘cause it isn’t worth killing.

—————-*

I’ll try to keep you posted on the latest investigations.

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Shhhhhhh……everybody be quiet.

I think Dusty has finally lost it.

By K_Chub

September 2, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management

It’s good to see some guy in Canada supports your nview of George Bush. Running low on things to copy and paste today? You actually had to copy and paste what some random Canadian has to say about George Bush…and that somehow means what exactly - that he has been right all along and that we should just all listen to this guy from Canada because he obviously knows what the real deal is???

If you are looking to vindicate Bush and his track record you are going to have to do a lot better than copying and pasting what some dude in Canada said about him. I mean come on - seriously is that all you got? Why even bother to make that post? It serves no purpose.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Did anybody see the video circulating on Youtube that the Obama Smear Machine is trying to smear the Palins with, that shows a down to earth husband joking and happily kidding with his wife and child?

It warmed my heart to see what real people the Palins are.

And it told me so much about these sneering liberals.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

September 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

I think some members of the media are too quick to go with stories without checking them out. This casts all the media in a bad light, especially the ones who do try to get stories right. Anything you read should be taken with a hefty dose of skepticism, now more than ever. The internet is like anything else, it can be used for good or it can be used for bad. I usually don’t even read a political email no matter which side it comes from. Most that are attributed to “well-known people” are so blatantly bogus as to be laughable. I think things would be well served if more people would do like Thomas Sowell, George Carlin and others who have moved quickly to state publicly that they didn’t write things that were attributed to them. In the case of Sowell and Carlin it was obvious at a glance that neither one of them had written what was attributed to them. What would be even better would be if some of these people who write these things could be tracked down and exposed.

By Dusty

September 2, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Bookman, for the joke information including all the liberal press reports about it. That was an unfortunate slip.

I wonder if McCain is now waiting on apologies for all the lies about his war record, his adopted daughter, his wealthy wife, his cancer removal, and the “jokes” about his age.

Apologies do seem in order.

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

To Dusty

You forgot she double dribbled once in a H.S. basketball game and the refs. didn’t catch it! Film at 11 !

By K_Chub

September 2, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management,

Warmed your heat - yea come on dude. You are such a tool - it’s laughable that you could even type those words. The only thing that makes a guy like you happy is kicking dirt in someone else’s face. You’re an angry conservative and you are always looking for an angle so cut the crap and just be the angry tool that you are.

By Dusty

September 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

The Corporal @12:22

Thanks for your help in this investigation. A double dribble!! Oh oh!! Good one!!

I have now heard that Sarah Palin even eats SUSHI!!!! Could THAT be true?

By The Way

September 2, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

In a CNN interview aired moments ago, John McCain just explained how he picked a woman veep. He was at a low point in his campaign and didn’t know if he’d make it through to November when one of his staff workers showed up wearing a cross (your heart bra), and the Eureka moment happened: Pick a woman.

Of course the same thing happened to Solzhenitsyn during a book tour but that was in Vegas, and what comes off in Vegas……

Rush Limbaugh is having a field day mimicking the Down Syndrome symptoms like he done to Michael J. Fox and his disease. Rush is such a funny guy. Even though it’s radio, Rush put on the helmet and everything. Rush! lol. He’s the clown prince.

that’s 4 sure, that’s 4 dang sure.

By Bush go away

September 2, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Is McCain deserves an apology about the smears against his adopted daughter, he deserves it not from the “liberal media” but from Karl Rove the one who started it.

By Bush go away

September 2, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

If McCain deserves an apology about the smears against his adopted daughter, he deserves it not from the “liberal media” but from Karl Rove the one who started it.

By The Way

September 2, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

A: Sarah Palin, Bristol Palin, John McCain

Q: Name two hockey moms and a puck.

I guess the RNC didn’t do a very good job cherry-picking veep candidates, eh?

By gttim

September 2, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Funny how everybody tries to smear Daily Kos, which is no that bad of a website, and is certainly one of the best sources of election information from a progressive standpoint- unlike the pro GOP bias carried by all the main stream media.

If you really want to see what the nasty right is saying, head over to FreeRepublic.com, the longtime far right place for informed opinions. Just make sure you have a shower handy. You will feel very dirty after visiting there.

The right has been nasty and crude for many years- even the right’s pundits on main stream media like Rush Limbaugh. They laugh and carried on for years with insults and smears against the Clintons and other Dems. There was no uproar over their behavior. Now that liberals have won the internet war, and have many influential websites, the right whines like little children if anything they do not like is discussed. They will search the websites for any random comment, and try to paint the entire left with it. The right is still intellectually dishonest, generally dishonest, and now acts like little crybabies. They also try to flood discussion boards like the AJC with trolls, idiotic posts and spam like cut’n’pastes. How sad.

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

And I repeat:

It will be both amusing and pathetic to watch the mainstream media turn over every pebble in an effort to find something on Governor Palin while continuing to ignore connections between Senator Obama and his crooked Chicago and “former” domestic terrorist friends.

By Taxpayer

September 2, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

I come in from mowing the grass to see that Jay has posted a new commentary for our enlightenment. I must say, Jay, that I really do enjoy seeing you put these p** ant, holier-than-thou, whiny Republicans in their places. I had forgotten all about that line from John McCain. Thanks for the reminder. It does help to sort of put things in perspective, don’t it.

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Well, Senator Hensley-McCain thought he was gonna serve us up a likable Annie Oakley-type cowgirl, but it looks like he ended up with Calamity Jane… and her hillbilly kinfolk, including a redneck “baby daddy”.

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Almost 300 people will be formally charged after they were arrested during protests at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota, a police spokesman said. Also, a group of self-described anarchists threw park benches into streets and smashed windows, police said.

Liberals - when they don’t get their way !

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Sorry for this Jay, but:

Paul!!! Check it out!!

The curse word ‘Battlestar Galactica’ created

How hilarious!

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Erick Erickson is an idiot. But so are all Republicans.

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Well Corporal, maybe instead of throwing some benches in the street they could have shot up some moose instead.

By Taxpayer

September 2, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Did I read someone claim that Rush would take the high road on something. What a joke. THE Rush that will poke fun at a person’s debilitating disease if it gets him some attention. He is just another whiny Republican that will do anything for a buck and then try to blame his socio-pathetic behavior on someone else.

By Paul

September 2, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Great article - thanks! I think Jay’ll understand.

But that’s all some think Battlestar Galactica will be remembered for?

oh, frak -

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Poor Bristol.

If her daddy wasn’t a drunk, her grandpa a gun-totin’ sociopath, her aunt married to a moron that was stupid enough to taser an eleven-year-old and her self-absorbed mother had spent some time with her instead of wite soopremacissy secesh, maybe she wouldn’t have hooked up with an 18-year old dimbulb who doesn’t want kids and is actually proud of being a redneck.

Given this family, her chances were slim to none anyway.

Although watch some rich GOPers come up with a couple of million for Mr. Johnston to take the walk down the aisle with her, and a huge trust fund for the baby.

By K_Chub

September 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Actually Corporal - since they are self-described anarchists they can’t really be liberals or anything for that matter because they don’t believe in order. I know it makes you feel better though when you think you have a dig on liberals so don’t let me rain on your ignorance parade.

It doesn’t really matter if the shoe fits does it buddy - just as long as your little mind thinks it is so then it must be. I would be embarrassed to expose myself like you do Corporal - through my time on this earth it’s not often I have come across someone who is so willing to embrace the role of village idiot. It’s amusing to me really - I’m sitting here have a good laugh because the thought of you spending all day thinking you’re so clever by posting blog entries is hilarious. You really think you know something…but you don’t even know that anarachists don’t associate themselves with any political party.

Thanks Corporal - and by all means keep the ignorant posts coming.

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Oh frak indeed. And another good thing: the AJC blog censors won’t censor it out! Ha! Ha!

What a great show. I miss it. [Sigh.]

Oh well, how was your trip?

What a week for Mrs. G to be gone, huh?

By Taxpayer

September 2, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Corporal,

The reports said that about 130 radicals broke off from the right wing of the 10,000 peaceful demonstrators. Some were wearing T-shirts for Obama and some were wearing T-shirts for Ron Paul. However, there were also reports of looting of clothing stores after windows were broken out. I suspect there were many T-shirts stolen and most likely used to divert attention. Republicans are well versed in such tactics.

Aside from that, we all know that the Republican answer to a problem is to confront it with violence. These violent protestors were obviously Republicans simply living the Bush example. They may have even been upset that the Republican leaders decided that they could not carry their weapons into the Republican convention. Those Republicans — such hypocrites.

By ByteMe

September 2, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Corporal: K_Chub is right. Anarchists are more like “liberatarians on speed” than liberals. What’s odd about the group is that their message was an anti-war message — we’re anti-war, so let’s riot in the streets and fight with cops? — so they are using that as a cover to just trash stuff. Someone just needs to take away the credit card they got from their parents.

And why at the RNCC? Same reason the crazies showed up at the DNCC in Denver: it’s the biggest available stage for them. They don’t care about the politics, just the stage. If it was possible to do it and not get killed, they would have tried to disrupt the China Olympics. Too bad they didn’t try.

Of course, my offering this reasoned explanation is likely just going to make the fascists here think I’m one of those “libs.” Heh heh.

By "The Corporal"

September 2, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

To K_Club:

1) My, my - we’re a little testy today. Did I push a button?

2) “Anarchist” is a very loose term. They’re basically liberals.

3) But the additional point is that they always show up to demonstrate where it causes them the most concern - the **Republicans”.

They fear us but not you guys.

That makes us their enemies and you their friends (AKA William Ayers).

Sorry, the truth hurts sometimes …..

By K_Chub

September 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer,

I think I know who those radical were - they are part of a group of Canadians led by the canadian dude AJC/DNC Management quoted earlier. Those ruthless Canadians are in full support of George W. Bush and they are rioting because the American Media is hiding information about an Obama conspiracy. Now the media is covering up the reason they were rioting because they don’t want Americans to find out what they were really protesting about. I heard they are also angry because the AJC censored some of their blog posts.

Wow - I never knew it was so easy to be a conspiracy believing neo-con nut job. It took me all of 5 minutes and I have been conveted into an illogical right wing hack.

By K_Chub

September 2, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

To Corporal Numb Nuts

“Anarchist” is a very loose term. They’re basically liberals.

Hey whatever makes you feel better about yourself buddy.

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

If my daughter were to become pregnant at 17 years old, I would encourage her to have the baby, but NOT get married.

By K_Chub

September 2, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I agree - can you imagine the stress now on the guy who knocked up her daughter? The whole country knowns about this situation and he is just a self described redneck and now he is the potential husband of the Vice President of the U.S.’s daughter…

By Paul

September 2, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Bosch

The business part of the trip went well, then I had to divert as my son went back into the hospital. He’s been battling ulcerative colitis for a year – it’s an inflammation of the large intestine – his was covered end to end with ulcers. Don’t know what causes it, only how to treat. Mostly affects young men ages 16-30. It was his second week back to the hospital in a month. Only a couple of drugs for it, neither worked. One is a steroid, so he suffered through the bloating and the splotchy skin. So this second trip he reviewed the options and made the call to have his large intestine removed.

I asked him about other drugs, alternate treatment, a (in his case) fourth opinion. His answer was “Dad, I just want the pain to stop.” Post op was tough. After 12 hours of the pain not going down and lots of itching they figured out he was allergic to morphine. Put him on Demerol and he was asleep in two hours. After a few days he appeared better so I returned home. Then his condition worsened as his small intestine shut down and bile and such was backing up. They put a tube down his nose to his stomach to pump it out. Very uncomfortable, not much sleep. And the other solution to wake up the organs – cut the pain meds. But after a couple days he seems to be back on the road to recovery.

So no, I haven’t had much else on my mind. An experience like this tends to put things in perspective – what’s really important in life. Oh – his wife is three months pregnant. High risk – in vitro. But you know, his attitude is amazing. Such a marvelous acceptance that good will come. Religion gets tossed around on this blog a lot, but his life (he’s the traditional religious one in the family) is a real example of going through tough times with no bitterness and knowing things work out for good. Very upbeat and accepting.

Gotta cut this off. I’ve told you before about a friend who has dual doctorates, dept chair at one of the Univ of Calif sites, retired and became a minister – Religious Science. I like his take on things. One of his favorite lines is “the Bible says ‘it came to pass.’ Nothing comes to stay – conditions aren’t permanent. They come and they pass.” Just like his condition.

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Did these clowns really name a human child “Trig” after the trigger of a gun?

Well, Roy Rogers named his horse Trigger, and Trig’s mama is a horse’s a*…

Good God.

What trash.

By Taxpayer

September 2, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

The only thing worse than a liberal right-wing Canadian anarchist is a gun-toting liberal right-wing Canadian anarchist. Power to the bench. So, sit this one out, Corporal. Let the bench do the work. Those frakking benches. There should be a law against loose benches…and loose trash cans…and loose women…wait a minute, there may actually be a law against that….

By Hillbilly Deluxe

September 2, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

To Paul @ 2:22PM

Your son sounds like an amazing man. It’s refreshing to see people who walk the walk and not just talk the talk. Only that there were more such people. We all get caught up in our own little problems. If you look around it’s always easy to find someone with problems worse than your own.

On the subject of anarchist, I don’t see them as liberal or conservative. They should stop and think about the old saying “Be careful what you wish for, for you just might get it”. You have to wonder if they have thought things through though. Total chaos wouldn’t really be a good thing for any of us regardless of our politics.

I have a good friend who is 180 degrees from me on virtually everything when it comes to politics. We argue and have a grand old time without ever referring to each other as idiots, morons, etc.

While it is tough for young people to make a marriage work with the pressure of a child, it can be done. A friend of mine got married under the same circumstances. He was 19 and she was 16. They are still together after 36 years.

By Paul

September 2, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Hillbilly Deluxe

Thanks. I thanked one of the nurses for the care they were giving him. She said “he has such a wonderful attitude. He’s only been here a couple of days and everyone on the floor just loves him.”

I can check out anytime grateful one thing I did turned out right -

out for a while -

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Looks like L-o-l-a is a member of a Hate Church:

The church runs a number of ministries providing help to poor neighborhoods, care for children in need, and general community services. But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war “contending for your faith;” and said that Jesus “operated from that position of war mode.”…

Palin views the church as the source of an important, if sometimes politically explosive, message. “Having grown up here, and having little kids grow up here also, this is such a special, special place,” she told the congregation in June. “What comes from this church I think has great destiny.”

And if the political storm over Barack Obama’s former pastor Jeremiah Wright is any indication, Palin may face some political fallout over the more controversial teachings of Wasilla Assembly of God.

If the church had a political alignment, it would almost surely be conservative. In his sermons, Kalnins did not hide his affections for certain national politicians.

During the 2004 election season, he praised President Bush’s performance during a debate with Sen. John Kerry, then offered a not-so-subtle message about his personal candidate preferences. “I’m not going tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I’m sorry.” Kalnins added: “If every Christian will vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time.”

Months after hinting at possible damnation for Kerry supporters, Kalnins bristled at the treatment President Bush was receiving over the federal government’s handling of Hurricane Katrina. “I hate criticisms towards the President,” he said, “because it’s like criticisms towards the pastor — it’s almost like, it’s not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That’s what it’ll get you.”

Much of his support for the current administration has come in the realm of foreign affairs. Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq were part of a “world war” over the Christian faith, one in which Jesus Christ had called upon believers to be willing to sacrifice their lives.

Looks like this crazy pastor G-dam-ned 49% of American voters to Hell…

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Man, I’m sorry to hear that, but I hope he’s doing better. My thoughts be with you. My favorite saying from the Bible, is “Amen” - so be it. There’s not much we can do about things, but it’s our attitudes that make it what it is.

Good luck - I know it hurts worse for a parent to see a kid hurt like that.

I was just sitting here worried whether or not my daughter made the school play - she’s been an absolute nervous wreck all weekend - and my middle son hasn’t helped much - of course, he’s told her a million times that she didn’t make it, resulting in crying- slamming doors, me yelling at him, him laughing at me for yelling at him, the other Bosch yelling at me to try and “DO SOMETHING” with that child (middle son) etc. — gee, that doesn’t seem such a big deal right now.

You’re gonna be a grandpa? WOW!!! Congrats on that. You may already be a grandpa for all I know, but congrats anyway - even if it is a repeat.

By Goldie

September 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

I’m looking forward to puttin’ on those rose-colored glasses this evening while watching the Grumpy Old People’s convention tonight — all that cheering and reverence being given to Dubya’s speech via satellite feed.

The religious extremists have taken over the Repug Party, and I’m sure there’ll be a lot of righteous back-slapping for the swell job they’ve been doing for the past 8 years! WEEEEEEEEE!

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Also -

“I can check out anytime grateful one thing I did turned out right”

I like that.

I feel the same way - three times over.

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

I was just in a bookstore - have you seen the new cover of Rolling Stone?

I laughed at loud - very loud - to the stares and eye rolls of others.

By Midori

September 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I posted that story a couple weekends ago.

Gave Andy and RW the vapors.

“How dare Midori cut and paste the ENTIRE issue of Rolling Stone”!!!!

So now one story represents an entire issue.

This coming from folks who cut and paste entire issues of Hot Air, etc.

How DARE I????

By Goldie

September 2, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 3:24 — guffaw! Love that RS cover!

Not only has Dubya ruined the Repug Party for the next decade or so, he’s also ruined his entire family name. No wonder Papa Bush gets all choked up when talking about Dubya’s “legacy”, or how ole Jeb’s political career is in the hands of that same 30% Club crowd.

By @@

September 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer:

I’m just home from my first day back at school. I’m physically tired and psyched all at the same time. I do, however, want to respond to your response left on the previous thread:

@@, I want to opt out of government funding of wars — you know, that thing that Republicans are so fond of — and all the killing of innocent people.

Need I remind you that The Declaration of Independence states:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The Preamble of the Constitution states a purpose of the Constitution to be to: secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Our posterity includes children born and future generations yet unborn. Any legalization of the termination of innocent life of the born or unborn is a direct violation of our unalienable right to life.

pos·ter·i·ty: noun

That same Preamble of the Constitution states one of the duties specifically delegated to the Federal Government is to Provide for the common defense.

In other words YOUR wants are without constitutional foundation. Mine can be found within.

By DCDawg

September 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

This is for “Dusty,” who questioned the authenticity of McCain’s contemptible smear of Chelsea Clinton. So much for Republicans’ promises to keep candidates’ children out of political races. This is a quote from a June 13, 1998 AP wire service story:

PHOENIX (AP) - Sen. John McCain apologized to President Clinton for a slurring “joke” that struck at Hillary, Chelsea and Attorney General Janet Reno - and Clinton has accepted, a spokeswoman says.

Nancy Ives, press aide for the Arizona Republican, told The Arizona Republic on Friday the apology was made by letter. McCain “feels terrible” about the comment that gave rise to the apology, she added.

Clinton spokesman Mike McCurry told the Republic the president accepted the apology as heartfelt.

“The president certainly understands how you get caught saying things you ordinarily wouldn’t have said,” McCurry said.

Neither Ives nor McCurry would release McCain’s letter, and Ives refused to repeat the joke that McCain, widely believed to be considering running for president in 2000, made Tuesday during a political fund-raiser.

“I don’t feel comfortable telling you,” Ives told the Republic.

However, the Republic said it was told by “political sources” that it “went something like this: Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father.”

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Midori!

Sorry ‘bout that. I must not have seen that - my apologies.

Yeah! How dare you!

:-)

How’s your day going?

Goldie,

Yeah, now, the only Bushes with some dignity are the Bean folks - and I don’t like them much either.

Oh, that just sparked a memory of Jesse Jackson on Saturday Night Live warning us to “Stay out of the Bushes!”

By Goldie

September 2, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Are the Repugs defending Palin’s “knowledge” of the American occupation of Iraq today? Or is it just those right-wing extremists who understand her words on videotape when she says it is “a task that is from God”:

Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

So many loonies in American history claiming their deeds are a task “from God”, and now McBush has chosen one of those loonies to share his ticket!

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Blooming idiot liberals, hahaha:

While I am complaining about the odious instincts of my profession, let me mention in passing the bid that Campbell Brown is making to supplant Lou Dobbs as the most objectionable broadcast bloviator, thereby securing the top two slots for CNN’s “best political team on television”. On Sunday I watched amazed as her supposed interview of a McCain spokesman on the Palin pick degenerated into a laughing, contemptuous harangue. Her evident disgust at the choice was not to be appeased. Then on Monday she demanded of another McCain surrogate to know whether Palin could be a good mother since she had knowingly thrust her daughter into the spotlight. But who, for heaven’s sake, is directing that spotlight? This is like the mugger who tells his victim he regrets what’s happening, “but why were you so stupid as to walk up this dark alley?” Others might be entitled to make that point, but it is nauseating to hear it from the regretful self-righteous mugger herself.

By Taxpayer

September 2, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

@@, that was lame. Now tell God that the Constitution gives you the right to kill innocent human beings in the name of your so-called defense. Defense of what — your fears. There was not a single Iraqi on those planes that were hijacked. @@, you are full of crap.

By Midori

September 2, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

once again we are witness to the Republicans being able to dish it out, but they can’t take it.

Someone had the unmitigated GALL to express sentiments of Rush Limbaugh taking the “high road”.

HAH!!!

I remember Rush’s short-lived TV show in which he held up a photo of Chelsea Clinton and referred to her as the “White House Dog”.

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

L-o-l-a’s a Pentecostal too - gibbering idiocy masquerading as faith.

Good God.

What trash.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

The Obama Smear Machine, only a few days on the road but much destruction behind it…………destruction of the dhimmocrat party:

Perpetuating laughable legend and assailing the American family is akin to the in the buff boycotting. –It makes the lefties look desperate, unstable, paranoid and downright mean. And it will hurt the Democratic brand if it continues.

By CommunistAJC

September 2, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Goldie, The difference between Palin and Obama is that Obama thinks he’s Jesus. Pretty big difference. Your side has it’s fair share of loons. Princess Nancy, KKK Byrd, Harry Reid, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Dennis “I believe in UFO’s” Kucinich, John F. Kerry, John baby daddy Edwards…..The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

By Goldie

September 2, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

MMA (Maverick My @ss!) — discuss.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Well, well, we finally got the libs on record against rail and bus transportation, does this mean they’ll quit threatening us with them and build some more roads?

In fiscal 2000, Wasilla received a $1 million earmark, tucked into a transportation appropriations bill, for a rail and bus project in the town.

By Goldie

September 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Communist — everyone knows that the religious extremists in America are mostly your Party’s supporters:

James Dobson, David Duke, Jim & Tammy Fay, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Rev. Hagee, Pat Buchanan, Sarah Palin…

By GMAN

September 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I used to think that Bush/McCain was ignorant but I’ve changed my mind. Bush/McCain is just plain stupid. I don’t care how you Wingnuts try to spin this, this dog (excuse the pun) just won’t hunt.

Bush/McCain - Stupid is as stupid does!

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Rush had a TV show? Yuck. The only time I’ve ever heard him speak was in news clips, yuck, but seeing him in person is really horrifying - fat rolls jiggling up and down and his five or so chins flapping in the breeze as that venomous garbage comes out - yuck.

The only thing worse is if Ann Coulter ever had a TV show. That anorexic hag.

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Goldie

“MMA (Maverick My @ss!) — discuss”

Lucky for my keyboard I just finished my last sip of milk before I read that.

I love milk.

By Frederick Douglass

September 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

I’m no prophet, but I spoke of this weeks ago. What you ask, the wanton need for some people to do things for appearances sake. My concern now is when are the racy photos of a younger Sarah Palin going to appear, you know they’re out there. Lost in all of this is the GOP’s snubbing of Mitt Romney because he’s a Mormon, and the beloved Bobby Jindal for obvious reasons. McCain’ll still probably reach the Oval office, but what a monumental mistake its going to be.

By Goldie

September 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Also, Communist @ 3:54 — please provide that link that shows where Obama has stated that he “thinks he’s Jesus” — I’m really looking forward to seeing that source of info.

Thanks.

By GodHatesTrash

September 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Andi/Angelina, my friend, what a tough couple of days for you - you were head over heels in love once you saw how big L-o-l-a’s gun was, but with all this stuff the last couple of days…

Well, some people are just going to say it was just a middle school girl crush, but you really seemed in love… talk to us, my friend, about your broken heart.

By Goldie

September 2, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

I have an old friend who’s been living in Anchorage for the past 12 years, and she sent me a e-mail this weekend with her thoughts about her governor, Mrs. Palin. She says that she’s very embarassed by the national attention now being given to the state of Alaska, and that the town of Wasilla is known as the “meth capital” of Alaska, and maybe even of the entire west coast. My friend prays to God that the Repugs don’t pull off this hoax on the American voters in November…

By Bosch

September 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Hey! That’s nice:

Wasilla: Meth capital of the West!

At least it’s known for something!