Jay Bookman

By TW

August 28, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this

People around the world have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power

How come ‘w’ never says neat stuff like that?

By AJC/DNC Management

August 28, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

As if there were any questions to the contrary, it is nice to see the pinko media with a collective thrill up it’s leg about their kandidate.

Good for them.

Soon enough we will all find out that America does not live in the same fantasy world that the drive byes do.

Go worship at your temple, bozos.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

People around the world have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power

My mom would have loved that!

In the same vein as:

“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country”

and

“There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why… I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?”

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Jay. Such negativity from your “fans” in the last few threads. What gives? Is Wooten’s blog no longer satisfying to those in search of someone — anyone — to listen to their whining? Then again, that’s what those Republicans seem to do best. The least they could do is save it for their Republican convention.

By hillbilly ragger

August 28, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Jay, by Wednesday, post-Hillary’s speech, had the RNC operatives in your midst given up trying to pretend that there’s all this seething intra-party hatred amongst Democrats?

I know I could go to RW sites and find cites for “Democrat Party in Disarray” with an 8/27 datestamp; just wondering if you were still hearing it out there, or if it’s safe to say that, by the time Bill Clinton gave his speech, they’d officially stopped flogging that horse.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

WOO-HOOO! Beautiful, bodacious Dems on display last night— Joe Biden, John Kerry, and President Clinton were all magnificent! Some of my favorite quotes from the evening:

“Let me tell you, before he ever debates Barack Obama, John McCain should finish the debate with himself.”— John Kerry, Aug. 27th

“But on the two great questions of this election, how to rebuild the American Dream and how to restore America’s leadership in the world, he [McCain]still embraces the extreme philosophy which has defined his party for more than 25 years,…”— President Bill Clinton, Aug. 27th

“The Bush-McCain foreign policy has dug us into a very deep hole with very few friends to help us climb out,” — Joe Biden, Aug. 27th

By TW

August 28, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

SHANGHAI, China - China and Iraq have signed a $3 billion deal revising an earlier agreement for China’s biggest oil company to help develop the Ahdab oil field, an official at the Iraq’s Oil Ministry said Thursday.

That’s just great. How many guys China lose over there? How much China put into ‘the surge’?

Obama ‘08 - An American President.

By Copyleft

August 28, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

It’s good to see America turning away from the “kill and drill” policy that’s all the Republicans have to offer… that and the relentless hate and fear that drives their negative view of America that real Americans are, frankly, tired of.

The choice this fall is pretty clear: a positive, constructive perspective on America from President Obama—or more of the same, tired fear and ignorance from sacrificial candidate McCain.

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

I unfortunately yet again was unable to stay awake to hear the key speech live. Ironically I was able to hear President Clinton’s entire speech replayed by none other than Fox news this am. Had to suffer through Rove and pack for just a few minutes, but if was worth it to listen to Clinton put an end to their rift nonsense. I did not hear Biden though I hope to find a replay on the net somewhere.

Clinton’s speech was perfection. Now comes the speech by Obama. What a great week for Democrats. Beat that McCain. Now I have to decide if I would rather what McCain’s speech next week or stay with my favorite, Antiques Roadshow. Oh wait I guess that is redundant, both are antiques on a roadshow.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Goldie….

I thought Kerry kicked butt last night….

Gotta love the “span”

By RW-(the original)

August 28, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Let’s see how that power of our example thing works out.

1993-World Trade Center bombing. We’ll write that one off to leftover examples of our power, because it was just a horrible thing for us to work with nearly the entire rest of the planet to get Iraq out of Kuwait, I guess. Still working that one through. Personally I thought it was a good thing.

1996-(well into showing the power of our example) Khobar Towers bombing

1998-(after two more years of showing the power of our example the world loves so much) Embassy bombings in both Kenya and Tanzania

2000-(still showing the power of our example) USS Cole bombing

2001-(a change of Presidents and still showing the power of our example) world Trade Center destroyed, Pentagon attacked and thousands dead.

It was long past time to show the examples of our power instead of mindlessly sitting around waiting to be killed.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G — last night when Sen. Kerry came to the podium, I was thinking how unfair it seemed to bring him on right after President Clinton… but then when Kerry got his rhythm going after the first few minutes, he was awesomely fabulous!

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

Last night was fantastic!

The finale when Barack Obama appeared.

And, his statement “I understand Hillary rocked the house last night” Had the crowd going nuts.

As I said it was a fantastic night..Kerry was great, Clinton was .. well, Clinton (says it all) and Biden was terrific!

By Sam

August 28, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Jay,

Just because you go into a state of euphoria every night after listening to to the liberal garbage coming from Denver doesn’t mean the rest of us enjoy the scripted nonsense (of course you would love scripted garbage seeing as how b.o. can’t speak without a teleprompter in front of him).

Remember that Clinton’s foreign policy got us into a whole mess in Somalia and cost us Bin Laden - do you really want more of the same pansy policies from obama? And who cares what the rest of the world thinks about our power; they’re only jealous because they’re NOT the greatest country on earth!

John kerry - get over yourself! you wouldn’t know a straight talker if he hit you in the face!

I hope obummer’s teleprompter goes out tonight, because it will be hilarious to see how the country reacts to the real obama. He’ll never stup up so he should go ahead and step aside right now.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

RWanker— I believe that “power of example thing” had begun to be misplaced by your guys Ray-Gun and Papa Bush during the 80’s, when you sold weapons to the terrorists who ended up killing us in the 90’s! That, and putting military bases in Saudi Arabia really brought “the chickens home to roost”, as one of your Repug representative so eloquently stated after 9/11.

By Rob

August 28, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Copyleft: Clearly you are too far left to even consider the possibility there may be more to McCain’s energy plan than drilling.

The only difference between the left and the right on this issue is the right’s plan includes everything the left’s plan does, PLUS nuclear and drilling. Why we can’t have nuclear power (that’s been providing 20% of the U.S. power for three decades safely and cleanly) is beyond me. As for drilling, why shouldn’t we get more of our oil from our own reserves? The left argues that by adding supply, the price won’t drop. That’s a ridiculous argument (arguing against the laws of supply and demand), but just for this argument, let’s say it won’t drop the price of gasoline at all. Isn’t it better to put Americans to work recovering American oil, rather than send billions overseas enriching other countries?

By RW-(the original)

August 28, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Goldielox,

You can look it up I’m pretty sure, but Mr. Power of our Example was the President from Jan. 20, 1993 to Jan. 20, 2001.

Of course if you’re telling me that Democrats are simply ineffective then I would agree with you.

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Sam

Can’t you do better then to bring up Somalia or for that matter Bin Laden?

Somalia was George Bush the elders mess!

Clinton had to clean it up.

As far as Bin Laden .. Clinton tried to have him killed, more than one could say about Bush.

And, let’s get off the tele-prompter kick!

How well do you think Saint Ronnie Reagan would have done without prompts, or Bush, or his moronic son? Not well I’m afraid!

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Yet another Republican “strategy” was pulled off without a hitch: China gets access to Iraqi oil fields while we provide the military to protect them. The least that communist China could do is say thank you to all those brave Americans who gave their lives so China could have that oil. Good job, BushCo LLC.

By "The Corporal"

August 28, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you”! Democrat Creed

By RW-(the original)

August 28, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

You know, I am a believer in … in knowing what you’re doing when you apply for a job. Uh, and I think that … if I were seriously to consider running on a national ticket, I would essentially have to start now, before having served a day in the Senate. Now there may be some people who are comfortable doing that, but I am not one of those people. — Barack Obama, 2004

By hillbilly ragger

August 28, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

rwanker, spare us your cherrypicked history.

The whole world knows that the Bush administration botched its post-9/11 leadership opportunity. No amount of regurgitated right wing timelines (which conveniently leave out the Republicans’ vehement opposition to ANY military response to terrorism throughout Clinton’s administration) will change that.

The whole world knows, but you Twenty Percenters are too thick to catch on. And you’ll be there, arguing against history, for as long as you draw breath.

Pity, really

By Chris Decker

August 28, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Some of the negative posts here reflect the deepseated insecurity and true powerlessness of those who can see only force as a way to deal with others. It’s sad that these folks don’t understand that violence can only beget violence. Real strength is the complete and absolute opposite of the indiscriminate use of violence.

By RW-(the original)

August 28, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Nice cogent arguments there ragger.

Usually one has to go to…well…any left wing blog to hear the same parrot squawk.

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I guess they reset the Biden gaffe clock

Did you know that Obama/Biden is the first major party ticket with no military experience in nearly 100 years?

By Swami Dave

August 28, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Through Day 3 of the 4, the convention has served the purpose intended: “excite the base & present a scripted psuedo-drama for hoped consumption by the small segment of the population who are not largely already convinced”. This representing something that Republicans will be doing next week.

For those who are going to vote for Obama, they’ve been given no reason -not- to support him. For those who weren’t, they’ve been given no reason to support him.

In a polarized electorate, the competition is for a shrinking segment of the population who could honestly be described as “undecided”. As that subset has diminished, that has been the main impetus for the continuing louder and more vicious fighting between the two idealogies. Add to the mix the anger from both sides to the current practice of elected leadership to respond to this fracturing by implementing mixed (“compromise”) policy (i.e. tax cuts & spending increases on programs, etc).

Unfortunately for the electorate, campaigns of this sort quickly devolve into more ranting of why you should -not- vote for candidate x instead of every telling people why you should vote for candidate y.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Of course if you’re telling me that Democrats are simply ineffective then I would agree with you.

No, RWanker— I’m telling you that your Party gave the arms to Al Qaida that they needed for all their killing sprees… maybe you should take a remedial reading comprehension course or something to help you with your problem.

And it’s a shame that your guy Dubya failed to right the wrongs that your Party did to America by emboldening our enemies, and we now have Al Qaida stronger than ever to deal with.

“THANKS, BUT NO THANKS!”— Pres. Clinton

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

I didn’t decide to run for President to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be President because it had become my ambition to be President. I was sixty-two years old when I made the decision and I thought it was my one shot at the prize

• Senator John McCain

By Copyleft

August 28, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Rob: I see you buy into the fantasy that there are “American companies” that will drill for that American oil and sell it exclusively to Americans.

Interestingly, the oil companies themselves have never made any such promise. They’re quite open about how their only concern is maximizing profits, and they’ll gladly sell to anyone—including our enemies—if there’s money to be made that way.

So yes, “WE” should be recovering “OUR” oil for “OUR” use. And letting the oil companies get involved is a great way to make sure that never happens.

By N-GA

August 28, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

“Did you know that Obama/Biden is the first major party ticket with no military experience in nearly 100 years?”

Yes, that’s right! Of course we could look at the Bush/Cheney ticket. All that military experience brought us, what? Iraq?

rotflmao at that incredibly intelligent observation.

By RW-(the original)

August 28, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

SPIKE LEE: It means that this is a whole new world. I think…I’ve been saying this before. You can divide history. BB Before Barack. AB After Barack.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

the first major party ticket with no military experience in nearly 100 years?

RWanker— nice try, but you’ve conveniently overlooked the military “experience” lacking with your guys Dubya & Darth Vader— do you really want to argue again about who avoided serving militarily in Viet Nam, during a time when your Party called anyone opposing that war a “Commie appeaser”???

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

RW…

WANKER…YOU write this….

“Did you know that Obama/Biden is the first major party ticket with no military experience in nearly 100 years?”

I assume you are including Bush’s service in the TANG…The boy who went awol when it was time to take his flight physical. The boy who enlisted from 1968 until 1974, but who disappeared off the radar screen in 1972.

Essentially a deserter, and no less in wartime!

As one of the above bloggers states…You don’t want to go there!

By Rob

August 28, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Copyleft: I never said I expected American oil companies to sell their oil only to America. I understand how oil commodities work. There are over 250MM gasoline burning passenger cars on U.S. roads today. All of those gasoline burning vehicles aren’t going anywhere today, tomorrow or next year. As long as we’re going to be needing gasoline, we might as well use our own resources, rather than continuing to send billions overseas.

As for Obama’s pledge to “fast track” new technologies… Technology is what it is - it builds on itself. That’s sort of like Ben Franklin saying we’re going to “fast track” our way to the moon by the end of the 19th century.

By ButtHead

August 28, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

The more Obama talks the lower his numbers go, so talk away Obama. By the way why won’t he do weekly debates with McCain, like he was asked? RLOL

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Let us not forget the dark age — the age of BushCo LLC. A time of famine and disease. A time of war and killing and more killing and more killing. A time of hocking our children and our children’s children to China and Saudi Arabia for money to pay Americans for their lives so communist China can safely enter Iraq and drill for oil. These are those times.

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

I only saw Joe Biden’s speech last night and I thought it was horrible —

BUT

I went back and read the transcript, and reading it wasn’t so bad - it must have been the delivery that got me last night.

I liked the way he pointed out the McCain was wrong, Obama was right examples.

Rob,

We have nuclear, wind, and solar power technology that is perfectly capable of generating power NOW - we just don’t use it.

Ya’ know, like if Ben Franklin had had a spaceship parked in his back yard and just didn’t feel like flying it.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Bosch @ 10:06 — I love your Ben Franklin analogy! Also, re: Biden’s delivery last night — I think it relayed his “common man” from Delaware theme really well. And you know, the common man is not always known for making roaring speeches in front of 20,000 people… and he’s probably been hammered about talking too much and saying things off the cuff. I agree that he seemed a little restrained last night. But I think as time goes on, Joe will get himself revved up enough to excite a lot of Dems.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Funny

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

What happened to the Mccain rally in Dayton with 10,000 people? for tomorrow night

It seems to have fallen off the radar.

Couldn’t give the tickets away, eh?

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G @ 10:16 — please tell me that link is from a real billboard! Too funny!

And the Dems can’t wait for November!

By Hmmmmm

August 28, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Yes, the longer Obama talks the lower his numbers go…. IT’s a BEAUTIFUL thing!

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Good point. That’s true - some people just aren’t good speakers. Don’t get me wrong, I like Joe Biden - he was my candidate at the beginning, but his speech last night - as I wrote on the blog late last night - made me want to stick a knife in my gut.

It looked as though the crowd were all going to sleep.

But, point taken, and I agree with you. I mean, I don’t know who McCain’s VP will be, but if he picks anyone like himself, it will be the most boring guy around. I hope he picks Lieberman - just to insure a total landslide - talk about McBoring.

I just read Kerry and Bill Clinton’s speeches from last night - pretty good stuff. Sorry I missed Bill speak - he’s a hoot.

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

I have just never seen so much dissension in the Republican party. Rove telling VEEP hopefuls to step aside and others fighting for pole position and splinter groups going off in different directions on everything from the economy to energy policy, etc. The Republicans clearly lack unity, a sense of being, focus… They’re also so whiny. Has anyone else noticed that.

By CommunistAJC

August 28, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

JAY BOOKMAN, I talked to a buddy of mine who told me that Mccain may pick Jeb Bush as his VP. As crazy as that sounds it makes sense to me. Your thoughts?

By Hillbilly Deluxe

August 28, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

I didn’t watch this convention and I won’t watch the one next week. This thing has been going on nearly 2 years. By now, everybody should pretty well have it figured out who they are going to vote for.

By CommunistAJC

August 28, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Risks of Invesco event worry top Dems

Senior Democratic officials are expressing serious concerns about the political risks posed by Barack Obama’s acceptance speech at Invesco Field at Mile High tonight.

From the elaborate stagecraft to the teeming crowd of 80,000 cheering partisans, from the vagaries of the weather to the unpredictable audience reaction, the optics surrounding the stadium event have heightened worries that the Obama campaign is engaging in a high-risk endeavor in an uncontrollable environment.

A common concern: that the stadium appearance plays against Obama’s convention goal of lowering his star wattage and connecting with average Americans and gives Republicans a chance to drive home their message that the Democratic nominee is a narcissistic celebrity candidate.

“We already know he is a rock star; we already know he can bring 85,000 people together in a stadium. He has done it multiple times. He needs to talk to people who haven’t made up their minds yet,” said Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen.

“It’s likely that the campaign would do it differently if it had to do it again because the decision was made before the European trip,” said a senior Democratic elected officeholder who has worked closely with the Obama campaign.

The GOP narrative of Obama as celebrity took root during that trip, where the Illinois senator played to large crowds of adoring Europeans.

Obama campaign officials acknowledged the apprehension Wednesday.

“I have heard some of the concerns and criticism that it’s such a big venue,” said a senior Obama campaign aide. “It’s no surprise that people could be a little nervous. We’re trying to do something new.”

Another senior Obama aide noted Tuesday there were only two options for what the campaign wanted to accomplish — do it either in the convention hall, in front of the delegates, or somewhere else.

“A diner’s not an option,” the aide said.

The campaign noted that, aside from the speech itself, it’s designed to be “a working event” that enables attendees to phone-bank and reach out to potential voters through a variety of online tools. Holding the speech in a venue that holds 80,000 people also allows tens of thousands of Colorado residents to attend and participate — no small consideration since Colorado is a battleground state where Obama and McCain are neck -and- neck in the polls.

“Winning Colorado is a very important component,” said the aide.

But the Invesco Field speech, with its massive expected crowd and the celebrity-style imagery it could evoke, is already being teed up by Republicans eager to hammer home the celebrity theme.

The McCain campaign Wednesday released a memo mockingly titled, “Proper Attire for the Temple of Obama (The Barackopolis),” a reference to the classical stage design in place for his speech. The campaign is already prepared to pull the trigger on ads spun out of the Invesco Field event.

“We’ll put it in play against him,” said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.

Some Democrats insist the GOP approach will backfire. Rep. Ed Markey of Massachusetts said the visuals of tens of thousands of people cheering for Obama can only help his campaign by evoking comparisons to former President Kennedy.

“I think he’s in that league,” Markey said.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio also sounded a confident note about the political impact of the forum, asserting that it will prove Obama’s message has wide resonance.

Bredesen also said that while he has concerns, Obama is a virtuoso performer who cannot be underestimated.

“They have got a great track record so far,” he said. “I would love to see him out showing a certain kind of humility, being in touch with people who go to breakfast at the Waffle House, sending a message.”

By Copyleft

August 28, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

I wish Kucinich had gone with his original speech:

“The Bush administration wants four more years. I say they should get 5 to 10.”

Great stuff!

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Bosch @ 10:32 — I too am looking forward to seeing McBush/Joementum ticket! Or, how about this new talk about brother Jeb being selected for his VP??? OMG! Can’t you just see that bumper sticker riding around on about 30% of American cars:

“McBush/Bush ‘08”…

The Dems can’t wait for November!

By CherokeeDave

August 28, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

TW: Lest you forget, it was Clinton and Gore that “exchanged” and built up the passing of major technology to our newest and bestest buddy - CHINA. I’d love to see how many Asian names are listed on Clinton’s library donors. Taxpayer: I’ve read these idiot blogs now off and on for the last 6 months and I see a “whole lot more whining” coming from you lefties with only blather against Bush while you tend to “skip” offering any real substance. JayB: The title says it all. It is just a Demo “Act” and nothing more. And Biden’s the act down. Get Right, Vote Right, Vote Republican.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Taxpayer @ 10:33 — aren’t you lookin’ forward to next week’s Grumpy Old People’s convention, with all that nose-holding going on in Minnesota? PEE-EWWW!

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Swami Dave,

I would like to give you my reasons for voting for Obama. I was torn in this decision, I think Hillary would have made an excellent President. I actually went in to the booth intending to vote for Hillary, stood there for at least 5 mins, and left having voted for Obama.

My decision for that was partly because I feel we did not need another political dynasty in the White House, 20 years of Bush’s and Clinton’s would have been just too much for me.

I personally like Obama’s stance on the environment. I think that the key is alternative energy and higher CAFÉ standards (which the present administration has done everything to block). Scientist and engineers should have been working on this problem for the last 30 years, with government grants to do so if necessary. So many of our nation’s problems are linked to our addiction to oil. Drilling for more is not the answer for me. Electric cars that are efficient and long range need to be perfected and produced cheap enough for consumers. We need to start the shift away form our dependence on oil.

I also believe in Universal Healthcare. I have worked in healthcare for 30 years. I have seen the difference in care that a covered patient gets. This might even negatively effect my job and some of my family members jobs, but I hope I am not selfish enough to deny someone of healthcare for my own benefit.

I am tired of the pittance tax-rebates being doled out to quiet the masses, and then the wealthiest few pay less. And I happen to be in the highest tax bracket. I do not mind this, I am blessed to live in America and will pay my fair share. I just want that fair share to go for something positive for my fellow Americans, not a voluntary war chosen by a moronic puppet President and a conflict of interest Vice-President.

I want jobs brought back to America. I am not a xenophobe, I do not mind other races, and do not mind them working here in America. But keep the jobs here in America. If we have to go back to incentives for Business to do that then let’s do it.

I very much want to see the budget of America balanced again. That is how my household lives, you pay cash or you do without until you can. We are mortgaged to Japan and China. Partly to fund Bush’s war and partly because of the rebates.

I want the American President to be respected again. Bush is embarrassing at best.

Obama’s policies, I believe, will bring us more to achieving these goals.

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

By CommunistAJC

August 28, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Mr. Communist….

I hope “YOUR BUDDY” who I’m sure is in the know (probably tight with Karl Rove) is correct in that assumption.

Jeb Bush would be a disaster!

Communist: Can you say Obama in a landslide!!!!!

Can you say OBAMA in a landslide victory?

By Hmmmmm

August 28, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

And when Biden talks,,,,WOW! Great pick, Obama! that’s really surrounding yourself with GOOD people….NOT! Good try “Taxpayer” ! I know it’s hard to compare a man with integrity and class to the two political hacks you have to pull for, but PLEASE, dissension. That’s hilarious! Good Luck in November, you will need it!

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

I’m looking forward to voting against all Republican incumbents in November. It’s the least I can do.

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

GOPs Got to Go:

Ditto.

Well done.

I don’t work in healthcare though, but great post.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

I understand the Dems are planning to have folks on the ground in MN…just like the GOP did in Denver.

Knowing the Obama campaign, they’ll do a damn fine job of critique!

By Common Sense

August 28, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Butthead you are a funny person! Not very intelligent but funny!

Hey for a changed can we give some people credit for stating the obvious!

The DEMOCRATS have put on a good show! Now we will watch the REPUBLICANS bore us I mean put on a good show!

To: Commu,

You have had some good posts, but another Bush you have got to be kidding!

Butthead we all want Nuclear we just have to find a place where people don’t mind the plant in their backyard and we really need the water resources to cool the nuclear reactors.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

A common concern: that the stadium appearance plays against Obama’s convention goal of lowering his star wattage

Communist @ 10:47 — leave it to the Repugs to try and pretend that a politician who draws big crowds is a bad thing.

LMAO! You Repugs are only whining because McBush is having trouble filling up the smaller venues, like that German restaurant in Ohio a few weeks ago. Pretty hilarious.

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

By CherokeeDave

“You have only seen BLATHER against Bush”

Dave…Do you realize how many page downs on one of these blogs it would take to itemize all of what this corrupt administration has done to the detriment of OUR country?

From a needless war…

To Phony EPA reports

To cronyism

To billions of dollars wasted or lost

To the lowest approval rating of any administration

Well I could go on here…and you know that. So I’ll just end with this!

The bottom line Dave is this … Go back to your phone bank and make those calls for your republican get out the vote assignment!

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

That is just weird. I registered as a Republican in 1980, the first year I was able to vote, and voted for St Ronald. I caulk it up to the stupidity of youth and a strong father figure. I saw the error of my ways soon though. Funny how that registration can jump up to bite you in the butt years later. I am getting Republican spam mail now.

I also think Jimmy Carter was a good president in keeping us out of a war, and being the first progressive energy policy president. And hands down the best ex-president we have ever had.

And I am married to a hunk, as you are married to a babe. We have been living in parallel universes all this time. LOL

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

CherokeeDave, That was almost as substantive as what the Republicans have to offer. You might want to add a chant to your hype though. Something like drill, drill, drill another hole. I see that you also like to spout that garbage line of “If you don’t agree with me, then you must be a leftie or whatever, blah, blah, blah”.

Hmmmmmm, Hmmmmm. Thanks, and good luck to you too. We’ll all need it.

Now, excuse me for a while. I need to go lean to the left while I do some yard work and try to correct a little for the error of my ways in the past two elections. Of course, the Republican party has been steering to the right for so long now that they now think that John McCain is their “conservative” choice for president. Misguided Republicans.

By Common Sense

August 28, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Hey Commu”

Did someone annoint Karl Rove leader of the REPUBLICAN party? I did not get the memo!

If I were Mr. McClain I would throw him under the bus. Mr. Rove is the one who drop the ad about Mr. McClain had and affair and the liason produced a child!

Any conservatives with good moral values would not allow this man around any party!

ROVE MUST GO!

By N-GA

August 28, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Construction of a new nuclear power plant should NEVER be started until there is an absolute guarantee that all the nuclear waste it produces can be disposed of safely. This guarantee must include transportation of the waste from the plant to the waste disposal site.

To many states/politicians don’t want the waste stored in their state, and many more don’t want the waste transported through their state.

Get those issues resolved, then proceed (with caution).

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

It’s funny how Republicans will claim such things as US companies leave the US in favor of manufacturing their products in other countries and shipping them back over here because of such things as corporate taxes, no workers willing to work for $50/hr, untrained workers, etc. They always seem to find some excuse. Yet, when I see a plant in Mississippi that makes electrical components get raided and hundreds of illegal aliens ousted, those Republican excuses just don’t sound very credible. The same applies with the bunk about our economy being in a soft patch and the hype about drilling our way to energy independence — lies, plain and simple. GDP was shown to have gone negative in 4Q/07 and if it were not for BushCo LLC’s borrowing of yet more money for the “stimulus” and the creation of more government jobs on the backs of the taxpayers, I’ll bet we would still be showing a negative GDP. Anything that appears to be good about this economy is analogous to one of those houses with brick on the front wall and vinyl siding the rest of the way around — It’s just a facade. As for the oil drilling, we are already the third largest producer and number one in consumption. It will take a lot more than even a few hundred producing wells to make the slightest dent — ten years from now, that is.

By Truth

August 28, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

GOPs got to go said: “I also think Jimmy Carter was a good president… “

LMAO…. of course he was… still LMAO

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

Hope is out there with the Nuclear power plant waste. I know, my daughter’s PhD is on that very topic. It may take years but is being worked on.

By ButtHead

August 28, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

I am so glad you liberals are happy with the rich dimocrat speeches, what a bounce that has made in the polls, for McCain. RLOL

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Hey everyone,

I propose a new Bumper Sticker:

Bush, a legacy to remember with ICK I= Iraq C=Cronyism K=Katrina

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Hey everyone,

I propose a new Bumper Sticker:

Bush, a legacy to remember with ICK I= Iraq C=Cronyism K=Katrina

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

By ButtHead

BUTTHEAD you might want to extract your HEAD from you BUTT…

It leads to clearer thinking!

Rich democrats??? How much money do you think the Bush and McCain families have?

How much money do you think the Romneys have?

How much money do you think Rudy Giulini has?

I know BUTTHEAD you don’t reason well with you HEAD stuck up your BUTT…But, try will you?

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

GOPs got to go,

LOL!!! That is weird. I was a Republican ‘cause the babe behind the Young Republican table at college was hot and I wanted a date!

I never told my hard core Democrat union guy Dad - he wouldn’t have liked that much - I was a rebel (on the inside - my dad’s big!).

And I’m all about fiscal and personal responsibility and less government, wish the GOP was.

About Jimmy, I think he was a good president too, but the bad stuff? That was FOUR years of the man’s life - think what good things he’s done with the other 80.

Do you play soccer? If not, do you like soccer?

N-GA,

Maybe we can fly our nuclear waste to Mars - you know - trash some OTHER planet.

By Red

August 28, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

There is no downside to this election. If McCain wins, we don’t have to put up with Obama confiscating our money through taxes and our guns. If Obama wins, we still get our stuff ripped off so he can try to ramrod his marxist agenda down our throats but it will only last 4 years before America wakes up and hands a pink slip to every member of the abortion party in Washington. Personally, I think McCain will hand the pinko his head in the election.

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

GOP’s got to go,

Another thing - my oldest son (who just started college this fall) wants to be an Environmental Engineer!

By N-GA

August 28, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I’ve always thought that we should rocket the stuff into the sun. But then I heard that the risk of rocket failure was too great.

By CommunistAJC

August 28, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Common Sense. I’m just saying. Jeb is way smarter than W. He knows how to handle disasters and has the highest approval rating of any governor or any state.

By "The Corporal"

August 28, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

“and God raised up an evil king over Israel”…………

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

By Red

Yes Red…

GUNS…why didn’t I think of that?

Obama is going to confiscate our GUNS!

How lame…HARDEE HAR HAR!

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

I do not play soccer, but I LOVE soccer.

I actually got up to watch the World Cup games at 0230 when it was in Asia.

Both my kids played travel “A” ball.

One still plays on the GT club team, the Geochemist. The other one plays pick up games at GT. She is a good player but I think she likes the Latin boys she plays with more.

My dad is a GOP fan but does not like Bush. He raised 4 Dems and 1 GOP. 4 out of 5 ain’t bad.

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Now I really got the heebbeegeeebeees,

My oldest IS an Environmental Engineer.

Damn those tempting Republican Barbies, I hope your babe has as much brains as she does babe.

My Hunk stays out of politics which is weird given that he is a lawyer. He left that profession though.

By Diamond Dawg

August 28, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Does anyone believe the Clintons will vote for Obama? It’s in their best interest to have a Republican in office if Hillary wants another shot at it.

I’m really looking forward to the unscripted part of the election. If Obama hasn’t gotten better at speaking without a teleprompter, it could get ugly.

I personally would be much happier with a Hillary vs. Romney election. They’re both experienced and stand for their convictions. BOTH McCain and Obama are speaking out of both sides of their mouths. Can we do the primaries over again???

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Andy,

How do you sqaure your statement

“Common Sense. I’m just saying. Jeb is way smarter than W. He knows how to handle disasters and has the highest approval rating of any governor or any state. “

With this which lists Jeb at 28….

By Midori

August 28, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

He knows how to handle disasters and has the highest approval rating of any governor or any state.

astounding feat, considering that he’s no longer a governor……

By Fabb4eyes

August 28, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

And the veteran raised up his leg over our flag…..

stfu, glennduhng, nobody’s interested in your miller time Wooten Sisterhood of the Traveling Panties ex nat. guard poontang adventures.

moron. (and idiot).

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

GOPs got to go,

You’re a woman after my own heart.

Corporal,

So, what did the evil king do over Israel after God raised him up? Sounds like a good story.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

They’re both experienced and stand for their convictions.

Now that’s a real jewel, Dawg — you’re not trying to put the name Romney in with the word “conviction” within the same paragraph, are you?

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Tell me you do not cycle please. Or know all about Jazz. Or laugh you butt off over old Seinfeld episodes and South Park. Or laughed so hard at Dodge Ball that your kids were slowly but surely moving down the aisle away from you in the movie theater?

By "The Corporal"

August 28, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

To Bosch:

In the interest of time, if you study the entire Bible (especially the O.T.) you will find that God sometimes “allowed” an evil King (ruler) to take charge when His people as a nation had strayed from His will. Kind of like it’s “lesson time”! Then they had to opportunity to repent and turn back to Him. It happened several times. We can’t know the mind of God obviously but it’s food for thought ……………

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Yeah, go figure that one. In all fairness though, I wish Jeb had been President instead of the other Bush we got. You know that p** him off thinking of how his chances are slim to none of ever being President after his stupid older brother ruined the opportunity for him.

GOPs got to go,

Yeah, the other Bosch is a pretty smart cookie — two Master degrees, now getting the Ph.D. I’ll be paying student loans forever.

By CommunistAJC

August 28, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, I wrote that. Not Andy. I lived in Florida for years. Trust me, his approval rating was MUCH higher than that. You don’t elected twice unless people actually like you.

By Fabb4eyes

August 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

The performer formally known as Prince, until he became Prince again said today on Entertainment Tonite that he once was in a reform school and really depressed until one of the guards there drew that idiotic symbol that was Prince’s only moniker for a while. That got him through it. When told his story sounded a lot like what happened to Momma Cass in her autobiography, Prince reportedly tore off his jockstrap and gagged himself with a spoon. The passage in Mama Cass’s autobio reads, “….This one time, at fat camp, the chaperones caught me sneaking a roast turkey in my shirt and he drew this picture of a low carb, soy sandwich in the dirt, and well, that was my low moment, I gotta say…..”

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Commie,

While I can appreciate your opinion…. it’s is not born out in the data.

Survey says 28.

By Midori

August 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

You don’t elected twice unless people actually like you.

well, you can steal it. twice.

By Common Sense

August 28, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Wow Diamond Dog wants both Hillary and Romney both who had to use their money for the primary campaign and both ran a deficit!

I am not sure what some of you are really talking about but I really appreciate 2 candidates who came out of no-where to win their party nominations and did not have a deficit while running.

Even though Mr. McClain was out of money!

DIAMOND do you want a CEO who can make a profit or spend money to send the company down the drain the ask the government to bail them out!

That is Hillary Clinton! Not Milt bilked so many companies he has over $270 million he is just waiting to be the VP then he will get that money back he spent in the primaries!

If I was McClain I would not choose flip/flop Romney!

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

I ushered at the FOX Theater one time so I could get in to see Prince. I did the same thing to get in for Genesis, ELO, and several other bands. The good old day. No good old boys, just good old ways of having fun without spending a fortune. Dang Republicans and their good old boy ways had to go and ruin it all. I say get rid of them all and bring back the good old days.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

you will find that God sometimes “allowed” an evil King (ruler) to take charge when His people as a nation had strayed from His will.

Thanks Corporal — I’ve always been entertained while reading those stories in the Old Testament. Kinda reminds me of Aesop’s tales. Or living through 8 years of a Dubya/Cheney wilderness…

By jasper

August 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

I’m so excited about tonight, I can hardly see straight, finally, College Football you can believe in.

By Really

August 28, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

So John Edwards gets booted from the DNC because he had an affair and lied about it and they give his time to ole Slick Willy who was screwing interns in the oval office. This is a prime example of why the these people cant be trusted to make policy descions for this country. Tax and waste marxist Obomination isn’t qualified to be President and if he wins every country on Earth will try to take advantage of our stupidity. Obomination will spend 4 years doing nothing but raising your taxes and fending off attacks from other countries. He’ll end up a half black Jimmy Carte, weak and useless as aleader.

By fabforeyes

August 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Let me tell all my fans out there a thing or two…

Back in the 90’s duhng stole my material and passed it off to Larry David as his own.

Now he is collecting $1 per day for every Seinfeld re-run shown!

I demand justice. I demand respect. I demand that you look at my brown eye daily.

isaidlookatit!!

By "The Corporal"

August 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

To Goldie:

Don’t blame me. I’m just the paper boy. Take it up with “The Editor”.

“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.”

Hear what you “want” to hear

It doesn’t change God’s Truth.

God bless ………..

By buster brown

August 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Corporal..

I’m kinda into the whale swallowing Jonah epic!

Will you tell me a bedtime story, please!

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Hear what you “want” to hear

I agree with you Corporal, and I’m sure you’ve been doing that very same thing these days.

By Midori

August 28, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Is that Larry Craig at 1:47?

Larr, go tap, tap, tap somewhere else.

By Midori

August 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

a gift for Goldie, Bosch and Mrs. G.

:)

By jasper

August 28, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Obama spent 143 days in the Senate before he went full time into campaigning. In this short time he managed to earmark more than $122,000,000, almost a million a day.

McCain’s average on the other hand is $0 per day for 26 years.

Lies you can conceal. Integrity you can compromise. Change you can believe in.

By Dexter

August 28, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

I keep seeing the word ‘pinko’ popping up on this thread. Geez, I guess the Archie Bunker crowd is still alive and well and living in the dark ages. Guess that why they nominated a fossil. Can’t wait to see the RNC next week, I’ll be packing my Geritol. “Better Red in the head, then dead in the head.”

By buster brown

August 28, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Really ..1:47 PM

REALLY, One thing about Clinton was he was an accomplished multi-tasker unlike that nit-wit who now occupies the white house!

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Jasper Please do a little research before you post your right wing assertions.

John McCain In 2006, teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center,

In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. Which violated his own anti-pork rhetoric:

Ted Stevens (R-AK), a notorious porker, was overjoyed that McCain had joined his side. “One man’s pork is another man’s alternate white meat.

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Word on the street is that McCain is now waiting for the bumper stickers to arrive so he’ll know who his VEEP is.

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Jasper, by the way I know where you got that ridiculous # which is not backed up by any facts. Just, John McCains say so taken off his web site.

Now if you want to be credible JASPER tell me where this million dollar a day pork spending went?

I’m waiting!

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Dexter just made me think of something —

What time will the speeches be at the RNC convention next week?

They’ll have to be early because McCain won’t be able to stay up past 5:00 - because you know, he’s so wicked old.

Corporal,

So is the moral of your story that God is angry at us for being against him so he made Bush president as a punishment?

And that guy you were describing - “hear what he wants to hear” - sounds very familiar to me………….hmmmm…….

OH, I know - BUSH!!!

Thanks Midori! I love presents.

GOPs got to go,

I don’t cycle all that much (I run and swim) or know all about jazz. I like jazz, but I’m a rocker (U2’s my favorite).

But I laugh at Seinfeld, Dodge Ball, and South Park so much sometimes that I snort. AND I still watch Saturday Night Live AND think it’s funny.

By Swami Dave

August 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

GotToGo:

While I disagree with your decision, I acknowledge your right to make (what I consider to be) the wrong one.

I can respect your environmental concerns. However, we didn’t do things 30 years ago that we should have done so we are now where we are. I’m perfectly fine with a focus on alternative energy sources, but if history is any measure, governments jumping into a problem rarely produces results. They are marginally successful at organized, known planned endeavors that are fully understood (albeit, rarely in control of the costs of execution and management). Endeavors of ingenuity, research, and development are rarely successful when micro-managed by government bureaucrats (the only thing in which they usually succeed is spending whatever money is budgeted and need more).

Recognizing that, part and parcel to any energy plan is our need to tap and produce more from existing known resources (aka - drill).

Obama was keen to quip that drilling for oil wont do anything to the price “for 5-10 years”. Yet somehow, advances in technology that we do not currently understand that are on noones immediate time horizon are worthy of direct dollar-on-dollar investment. Effectively, we invest our limited dollars in an unknown energy source that may produce results in 5-10 years and ignore the current situation and actively impede steps that we could take to help assist with current known technology.

Also, your point about electric cars notes one challenge (range), while effectively ignoring the larger (production). Electric cars would simply shift demand / supply problems especially realizing the existing problems with electricity availability in many regions of this country. If the “range” problem were resolved today and 1,000,000 “affordable” electric cars dropped into California, it would be a disaster!

Yes, there is a difference in health care dependent upon the ability of the patient to pay. It is a commodity largely because it is a limited service provided by other trained individuals. For the same reason that I cannot force you to cut my lawn whether I can pay or not, I cannot force my doctor to treat me if I am unable to pay. If he so chooses, that is fine, but his only obligation to do so is based on his ethic, not my need. Likewise, assume we ignore the effective forced provision of service, we are still increasing demand of what is a limited product / service. By any rudimentary understanding of economics, that either increases cost or diminishes quality (or probably both).

You may be in a higher tax bracket than I am, but the tax cuts that were passed offered the same benefits to all. For those (like you) paying more in taxes, your amount of benefit was greater, rightly. Those of us who pay less in taxes should not expect to benefit equally with those of you who pay more. Tax policy is (supposed) to be based on funding the operations of government; not redistributing your wealth to me. That is -my- job to provide service to you so that you will give it to me in exchange. (But, by all means, go ahead and send Washington as much as you feel necessary - I’m sure someone will cash the check!)

On incentivizing businesses to continue operations (and jobs) in America, we probably agree. Largely, tax policy and regulations are some of the main reasons that companies have moved operations outside of the United States already (Dahmler - Chrysler is one example). On this point alone, you are diverging from your candidate because his plans to increase taxes on corporations, increase regulations on businesses, and attempt to foist regulations onto entities in other countries will serve to further isolate markets (and jobs) here than they are now. Again, standard economic principle destroys most of his economic vision.

We also seem to agree that America needs to operate according to a budget with good control of expenditures. We can argue on whether the current deficit problems are an issue of “spending too much” or “raising too little”, however, as I’ve stated, the current practice by our elected leadership (Republicans and Democrats) of implementing partial (“compromise”) policy is asinine. In the face of a (relatively) equally-divided electorate, the standard response to a conflict between two idealogies seems to be “implement the most partisan extremes of both” (cut taxes - increase spending, pass new education mandates - don’t fund it).

To the net-net, I’ll not be supporting Obama for these reasons. Personally, I think that America could increase the turnout for the election in November by simply changing the ballot from “Obama - McCain” to “not Obama - not McCain”. Five bucks says that “not Him” votes would outdraw “Him” votes in both races!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

YOO HOO JASPER

Please provide your documentation for this claim:

“McCain’s average on the other hand is $0 per day for 26 years.”

I sure hope it’s not this already debunked quote:

And I’m proud to tell you, Chris, in 24 years as a member of Congress, I have never asked for nor received a single earmark or pork barrel project for my state and I guarantee you I’ll veto those bills. I’ll ask for the line item veto and I’ll veto them and I’ll make the authors of them famous.

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

By Mrs. Godzilla

Mrs Godzilla

Read my posts at 2:31 PM and 2:36….

By Swami Dave

August 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Dexter:

I noted a question that you asked yesterday about “my philosophies” (I think).

Lacking the standard questionaire, I am probably one of the more conservative people that you will meet. I guess if you have specific questions (and were interested), I could answer them, but my thoughts are pretty much an open book (here and on my website).

By Dexter

August 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Good deal, Swami Dave. Just wondering. You seem more refined then your brethern, like Bill Buckley; a conservative who conducted himself like a gentleman and a thinker.

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

How wrong can a right-winger be to wrong a person’s right to be wrong by being wrong without righting it. That is just so not right yet it is only the beginning of the wrong. For it is surely wrong to ramble on and on on disconnected topics with not even a sense of logic by means of an introductory statement from which to present one’s disagreements or through proper closure with presentation of conclusions that at least attempt to capture the topics along with their respective beginnings, middles and ends. I couldn’t even follow it and I tried. I really did.

Swam i, in the murkiness only to get lost. “Just what do you think you’re doing, Dave?”

By CommunistAJC

August 28, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, That survey was taken in 05. I am talking his OVERALL approval rating from the time he was first elected up until he left office. Ask any Floridian to name a better governor. Florida’s economy was among the best in the country when he was in office. Then again, you’re so up Keith Olbermanns butt that you can’t say anything but liberal talking points.

By "The Corporal"

August 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

To Buster Brown:

It wasn’t a whale. Their throats are too small. The passage said, “God prepared a great fish”. Probably one of a kind. If he could creat the universe - a big fish is not problem.

By the way, the purpose of Jonah in the fish for three days was symbolic in that it foretold that Christ would be in the earth for three days.

Bottom line, the Bible is an incredible book. If you seek God in truth He will reveal himself to you through Jesus Christ.

I wish you well ……………

By N-GA

August 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Swami Dave,

I would never be one to suggest that the government does everything right. But I do get tired of uninformed people making broad sweeping statements like “…governments jumping into a problem rarely produces results.”.

How did America put a man on the moon? How did the interstate highway system get built? How did our huge dams, canals, etc. get built? What about our military and its weapons? How about the A-bomb? And nuclear reactors for ships?

The government creates specifications, then funds and tracks the projects. Often our large corporations actually do the work. For every big business success there are many failures. But usually it is government and business working hand-in-hand to get these really big things done.

BTW, both government & business are also frequently riddled with corruption.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Commie….

So?

Your statement remains opinion, which is cool, but you have only your feeling as back up.

28th in 2005, does not make him the governor with the highest approval rating ever.

Facts, dude, facts.

By buster brown

August 28, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Corporal…

I preferred Walt Disney’s version!

But, thank you so much for the BIBLE lesson.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

LOOK SEE THE WAGGING DOG

In an interview with CNN Russia’s Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has said the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict may have been staged to secure a victory for one of the presidential candidates in the U.S. He says preliminary reports show that U.S. citizens may have been present in the combat zone

By Midori

August 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Cindy McCain’s Half-Sister: I’m Voting For Obama

By "The Corporal"

August 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

To Buster Brown:

You’re welcome. Just wanted to make sure you weren’t misquoting the number one best seller of all time.

By jasper

August 28, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Here you go libbies, feast away:

The non-partisan taxpayer watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) has released the 2008 edition of their “Congressional Pig Book,” which is a compendium of recent pork-barrel spending by our beloved U.S. Congress. To qualify as pork-barrel spending, a project must meet at least one of the following criteria, though most instances in their report satisfy at least two: 1. Requested by only one chamber of Congress 2. Not specifically authorized 3. Not competitively awarded 4. Not requested by the President 5. Greatly exceeds the President’s budget request or the previous year’s funding 6. Not the subject of congressional hearings 7. Serves only a local or special interest According to the CAGW report, the year’s biggest offenders are all members of the Senate Appropriations Committee, beginning with Thad Cochran (R-MS) with $892 million; Ted Stevens (R-AK) with $469 million; and Richard Shelby (R-AL) with $465 million. As for our current Presidential hopefuls, Hillary Clinton is on top with $292.2 million in pork spending spanning 281 individual projects. Barack Obama is second with 53 special projects for a total of $97.4 million. And bringing up the rear (which, in this case, isn’t a bad thing) is John McCain with $0 in pork spending.

By jasper

August 28, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G - Gullible, right, we casued the Russians to go to war, to unleash all of their might on a defensless country. And they went along with the whole plan, because they needed to test drive their tanks. If you would pull yourself away from the Obama love fest you would see that this little war is over, out of the news cycle, and will be completely out of the pop-culture attention span in a matter of weeks. Therefore its usefulness to McCain will be greatly diminished. I’m no politician, but if I were going to go to all of the trouble to cause a major country to go to war so as to boost my poll numbers, I would have worked on the timing a little better. Jeez! Has the koolaid turned your teeth blue?

By Swami Dave

August 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Taxpayer: That post was a specific response to another that encapsulated a number of topics. Usually, if someone asks a number of questions, I attempt to answer them. Sorry that you didn’t enjoy it - maybe the intended recipient did.

N-GA: I do not argue that government has accomplished a number of endeavors. However, there is a big difference between using the already-developed technology of rockets (from an individual - von Braun) to accomplish a project of travel to the moon and executing a project to develop “green” technology initatives. One is management; the other is creation. By their very nature, the former - bureaucracies can achieve success; the latter - they rarely do.

Dexter: As I had a good bit of respect for William Buckley, thanks for the kind compliment in the comparison.

By RW-(the original)

August 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

As if a Rocky Mountain coronation were not lofty enough, Barack Obama will aim for Mount Olympus when he accepts his party’s nomination atop an enormous, Greek-columned stage - built by the same cheesy set team that put together Britney Spears’ last tour.

By jasper

August 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

I won’t bother you guys with a lot of links, just the facts in small doses.

Obama, Biden’s Son Linked by Earmarks By James Grimaldi & Kimberly Kindy The Washington Post August 27, 2008

Sen. Barack Obama sought more than $3.4 million in congressional earmarks for clients of the lobbyist son of his Democratic running mate, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, records show. Obama succeeded in getting $192,000 for one of the clients, St. Xavier University in suburban Chicago.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

YOO HOO JASPER

Government Waste (CAGW) is non-profit group that has campaigned on behalf of the tobacco industry and in favour of Microsoft and against open source software.

Funded by Exxon, RJR Nabisco, Phillip Morris…..

By Common Sense

August 28, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

Jasper,

Do you want to spend money at home or in Iraq?

Our Companies are not even acquiring the oil contracts!

What can the 10 billion we spend in Iraq do for this country?

Wake-up young fella!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 28, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

YOO HOO JASPER

Look for Sun Cor…..or Donald Diamond….Arizona waste water treatment….

By Bosch

August 28, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

jasper,

I think my link was dropped, but -

Damn that Barack Obama - getting money for early childhood programs and nursing schools that train nurses.

I guess you didn’t read the rest of the article from the Washington Post, huh.

By Goldie

August 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

RWanker @ 4:27 — jealousy coming from you Repugs is so unbecoming.

So, how many supporters is McBush drawing for his “town-hall meetings” these days? Enough to fill up those delicatessens with their sausages hanging from the walls for his photo-op backdrop?

BWAAAAAA.

By Midori

August 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Rub it in Goldie!!!

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

By jasper

August 28, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

This is where we part ideologies on Federal Government Spending. What gives them the right to take these tax dollars and give them out as they please. These very same tax dollars could be shoring up Social Security or expanding medicare benefits. I realize that I’m speaking to a low income audience here, but believe me, if any of you ever get a good job or God willing, own your own business, your views on these Federal leaches will drastically change - you can belive in that.

By jasper

August 28, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Goldie, sweetie, keep in mind that Barry didn’t have the stones to have the town hall debates with Johnny Mac. Its not jealousy babe, just plain ole’ bewilderment. Fads pass just like gas.

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

That’s cool Swami, I know that you were “countering” GOP’s list of reasons for preferring Obama over McCain. I’m simply amazed that you attempted to counter that list with unsubstantiated claims. Why not offer something to back up claims such as the impact of one million electric cars or the claims about tax policy versus big business or the impact of tax cuts, etc. I just hope that GOP asks you for some source material. I know I would.

By Dexter

August 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

I can think of plenty of Conservatives I respect: Ayn Rand, Dwight David Eisenhower, Harry S. Browne, Ron Paul. In regards to this election, however I do believe that Sen. Obama is the best choice, because we need new blood in the White House. And I truely believe that he is going win. Regardless of who wins they have a hard road to plow. The next few years in this country are going to test the meddle of all of us, I’m sorry but when I really try to find something good about what our government has done in the past 8 years, I’m hard pressed to find anything. The GOP has really strayed from its ideals as the party of small government and individual freedom. I’m not party blind, if a Democrat did 1/2 of these things I’d be equally as repulsed. We are supposed to be an postive example of Capitalism and Democracy and we have become an Owellian Theocracy crumbing under the weight of internal division, economic instablity and the lack of coherent roadmap out of this mess. It seems like we have lost our way.

By ghost rider

August 28, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

I see Jasper is at it again…spewing his right wing biased arguement!

Here is who Jasper credits as his source of information CAGW..and who is CAGW

It functions as a think-tank, ‘government watchdog’, and advocacy group for fiscally conservative causes. Its stated goal is “to eliminate waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement in the federal government.” The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste (CCAGW) is the lobbying arm of CAGW, organized as a section 501(c)(4) organization, and therefore permitted to engage in direct lobbying activities. CAGW has been criticized for its links to the tobacco industry and to lobbyists including Jack Abramoff.

Sounds fair and balanced to me….HARDY HAR HAR!

By Taxpayer

August 28, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

jasper has proclaimed all here to be “low income”. The little fella’s getting kinda frisky. I think he got his feathers ruffled.

By McCain

August 28, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Jasper

This is Johnny Mac…

Listen I’ve rented half of the econo-lodge banquest hall, looking for a few friends to stop by tonight for FREE cookies and Kool-aid. Get that Jasper FREE….

I know Obama is selling out Invesco field tonight and Al Gore, Nobel Prize winner is going to give a speech, but c’mon man my campaign just spent $50.00 to rent the space, and no ones here.

I offered Obama a chance to a townhall debate, but he turned me down!

Said he had bigger and better things to do tonight!

CHICKEN!

By buster brown

August 28, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

By Taxpayer 5:35 PM

TAXPAYER, I understand paper route careers are kind of low on the pay scale!

Jasper will just have to suck it in!

By Dexter

August 28, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Yea my 10 years of working in mangement and IT for Fortune 500 companies has left me so poor. I wish a big government conservative would mail me someone else’s money so I won’t be so poor. Oh yea I got a rebate for doing absolutely nothing. Nevermind…

By jasper

August 28, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Dexter,

The fact that you got a rebate, tells us about your income level. What an idiot! That’s right I didn’t get one. So go have a draft beer on me.

By Dexter

August 28, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

Wealth redistribution has really fallen to a new low when a guy has to settle for a lousy beer. At the very least a Cote du Rhone or a pinot(something french). Besides I don’t think $65k a year is bad for someone with a lousy liberal Arts Degree. Lastly, being an idiot can be a good thing, after all, you graced me with a flame, and that my friend is worth more to me then all the money in the world.

By GOPs got to go

August 28, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

Dear Swami,

You are obviously well spoken and educated.

However, I do still disagree about a few topics.

Money DOES talk and very loudly. If the government threw enough money at a project and opened that project up to all of the best minds in America, I believe we would have our electric car that was mass producible, affordable and had range. Oil and car companies have had no incentive to change, why would they when they have been making so much money? The combustion engine has not changed much in 100 years. When California tried to mandate electric cars and higher CAFÉ standards it was shot down by Congress, but Toyota and Honda heard them loud and clear and started working on their respective hybrids. And guess what, their hybrids are much better than American hybrids. I say dangle out the big fat money prize carrot and see how quickly it can be done.

Call me a softy but healthcare is a right, not a privilege for the covered few. Why should someone die of cancer that is curable?

Your on with that five buck bet, you’ll lose Buckley.

By FrankLeeDarling

August 28, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

This convention needs one more Clinton

GEORGE!!

By GPMAN

August 28, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

To FrankLeeDarling, You were on a roll till you went with the healthcare is a right routine. If a stranger tried to get the money directly from your pocket, I’ll better you would no longer feel it was his right to YOUR property. But taking someone elses to make you feel better is OK, right?

TO Dexter, I hope you’re real proud of that wellfare check because most productive citizens didn’t get one and were accosted so that the masses could get another wealth transfer. You should be embarrased to have that degree or to know any French words.

By War Eagle

August 28, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

Enjoy the Big Top, McCain wins Georgia 55-45, and USA 48-46, get over it Jay and Cynthia..There might be some job openings at NYT or Chicago Tribune

By diamond dawg

August 29, 2008 12:14 AM | Link to this

OBAMA 08

NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES!!!

(EXCEPT ALL YOU EVIL RICH FOLK)

BETTER SCHOOLS!!!!

BETTER HEALTHCARE!!!!

NO WAR!!!!

UNICORNS!!!!

RAINBOWS!!!!

BEER IN THE WATER FOUNTAINS!!!

WHO COULD DISAGREE WITH ROSIE O’DONELL, MADONNA AND BARARA STREISAND?

CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, AND MORE CHANGE JINGLING IN YOUR POCKET!!!!

He did do one thing…

A WAR EAGLE AND A DAWG AGREE ON SOMETHING!!!

THIS FROM A RECENT MADONNA CONCERT:

First came John McCain’s picture – alongside images of Adolf Hitler, Zimbabwe’s dictator Robert Mugabe, environmental ruin, and starving children. (She also included Mike Huckabee in that odd hall of shame.) Then came the Obama segment, and the Democrat was surrounded by images of Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa, John Lennon, and Al Gore.

More of the dems at work:

This is becoming a pattern for the poor, celebrity-loaded Obama campaign. Just a few weeks ago, the rapper calling himself Ludacris lauded Obama and slashed Bush and McCain in a YouTube video entitled “Obama’s Here.” In the lyrics, Ludacris called himself Obama’s favorite rapper, noting the candidate said (to Rolling Stone magazine) that he listens to Ludacris on his iPod.

First, Ludacris offended all the Hillary-adoring feminists. “Better yet put me in office, make me your vice president, Hillary hated on you, so that b—— is irrelevant.”

Then came the Republican-bashing: “Paint the White House black and I’m sure that’s got ‘em terrified, McCain don’t belong in any chair unless he’s paralyzed.” McCain deserves a wheelchair, and Bush is a moron: “Yeah I said it cause Bush is mentally handicapped, ball up all of his speeches and just throw ‘em like candy wrap.”

It says something about our screwed-up culture that the President of the United States, a man with an M.B.A. from Harvard Business School, is mocked as a special-needs student by a guy with no college degree who misspells his album titles (“Word of Mouf”) to look hip.

Sad state of affairs if you ask me.,,

By GaLiberal

August 29, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

AJC/DNC Management said: As if there were any questions to the contrary, it is nice to see the pinko media with a collective thrill up it’s leg about their kandidate.

Good for them.

Soon enough we will all find out that America does not live in the same fantasy world that the drive byes do.

Go worship at your temple, bozos.

This is what passes for Rethuglicon intelligent discourse. This is the America that George Bush and the Rethuglicons have created over the last eight years. This is what John McCain and the Rethuglicons will continue if he is elected. This is why America cannot stand another four years of the Rethuglicons.

The Republican thugs and con men (Rethuglicons) that put Bush in office are the same ones trying to put McCain in office. They will use the same old tactics of lies and misinformation because that’s all they have. They can’t run on their record of success unless you call invading and occupying Iraq, giving the uberrich a greatly needed tax cut, racking up a $500 BILLION deficit, and trashing the economy success. But, their uberrich buddies got richer so I guess that’s a success they can use during the election.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And AJC/DNC Management is living(?) proof.