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What goes around comes around
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Obama campaign is making a big deal about John McCain’s inability to remember how many homes he and his wife own — four? seven? ten? — and the fact that they spend a quarter of a million a year on household servants. The Republicans are complaining that the attack is unfair.
“Americans don’t like this class warfare stuff,” one McCain campaign official said.
They also pulled out the Vietnam card once again.
“This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison,” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers explained to the Washington Post.
All of this is vaguely familiar to me …. I’m trying to remember …. Something about making fun of a candidate because he had married an extremely rich woman who kept him in the lap of luxury he had never earned?
And mocking that same candidate because he allegedly relied way too much on his Vietnam service to deflect criticism?
Is this ringing a bell? Can anybody out there refresh my memory on that? Is that familiar to anybody else? Because damn if it doesn’t sound familiar. Or maybe it’s just that deja vu thing.





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Comments
By Midori
August 22, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
BAM
Thank you Jay.
Can’t wait to see the hypocritical wingnuts show up to shriek, howl and scream, sporting band aid purple hearts.
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Did you really think that John “Mr. Magoo” McCain could remember how many houses he has. He can’t remember what he had for breakfast this morning or the fact that he cheated on his 1st wife when she was battling for her life with cancer. Just put him to bed and make sure he leaves his teeth in the glass by the bed.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 22, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
If this is the best issue the libs can come up with then they really are going to lose in a landslide.
You all sound so………………….desperate.
Hello President McCain.
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
“Sen. John McCain claims to not know anything about FactCheck.org, the fact-checking Website run by University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg Public Policy Center, that has cited 11 McCain campaign advertisements since June 20 for false or misleading information. Now it turns out that his own campaign uses the Website when it suits its purposes.”
They’re munipulating the old sock-puppet again. Make sure that you hide the car keys because we wouldn’t want him driving and hurting himself and someone else.
By Bud Wiser
August 22, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
Yeah Jay, I’ll refresh it for you. Obviously you are referring to the similarities between here, and your previous loser John Kerry.
(a) McCain endured five and one half years of imprisonment and torture.
John Kerry came home with 3 Purple Hearts and proceeded to testify before Congress against the war, protest against the war (both no doubt prolonging the stay in Hanoi by McCain AND THE OTHER HEROES.
(b) McCain was merely holding back the info so as to be completely accurate, wanting to talk to his staff so he could relay the proper info, so fools like you couldn’t spin it into the crap zone you’ve taken it.
Kerry is wealthy in his own name, and is the beneficiary of at least four trusts inherited from Forbes family members, including his mother, who died in 2002. Forbes magazine (a major business magazine named for an unrelated Forbes family) estimated that if elected, Kerry would have been the third-richest U.S. President in history when adjusted for inflation.
(c) McCain’s 5+ years imprisonment, coupled with the severe injuries his first wife had in an automobile accident, put a strain on their marriage they were unable to reconcile. They divorced amicably, and still remain friends. He married Cindy Hensley in 1980, and she was from a wealthy family.
John Kerry’s first wife suffered from mental depression, so he divorced her. Marrying the Heinz heiress, he most definitely upgraded similarly to McCain, except that McCain’s wife has done such things as adopting a girl from Bangladesh that she had initially just brought to America from Mother Teresa’s orphanage, just for medical attention. In 2004 the Democrats put a muzzle on the Heinz woman because she suffered from diarrhea of the mouth, and was suspected of appearing at campaign events intoxicated….in other words, no class at all.
Need anything else?
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Earlier this week, Sen. John McCain rejected a statement by his top economics adviser, former Sen. Phil Gramm, who complained that America is “a nation of whiners” and the country is in a “mental recession.”
McCain joked Thursday that Gramm, once touted as a possible Treasury secretary in a McCain administration, would make a good ambassador to Belarus.
Of course when asked about this statement John “Mr. Magoo” McCain replied, “Who is Phil Gram and where am I?”
By RealityKing
August 22, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
I wonder how many of John’s homes were bought with the help of convicted felons??
By AJC/DNC Management
August 22, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
I got a fun game we can all play while we are on the subject of “memory:”
Let’s pick the importance of each issue-
1) Obama can’t remember which country liberated Auschwitz.
2) Obama can’t remember how many states their are in the United States.
3) Obama can’t remember if it was 10 people or 10,000 people who got killed in the Kansas tornadoes.
4) Obama doesn’t know if he is Sioux Falls or Sioux City.
5) Obama thinks they speak the same language in Iraq as they do in Afghanistan and whines at us because we don’t speak all 5 of them.
Enough for now, say, what was it McBush forgot?
By ByteMe
August 22, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Bud,
John Kerry came home with 3 Purple Hearts and proceeded to testify before Congress against the war, protest against the war (both no doubt prolonging the stay in Hanoi by McCain AND THE OTHER HEROES
Gotta take issue with your “no doubt” phrasing. Someone protesting the war extended the duration of the war? You think the government really really wanted to get out sooner, but those pesky liberal protestors FORCED the army to stay and fight longer? Just wow. Hard to follow that logic, but you go with it.
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
John McCain recently tried to underscore his seriousness about pushing through a new energy policy, with a strong focus on more drilling for oil, by telling a motorcycle convention that Congress needed to come back from vacation immediately and do something about America’s energy crisis. “Tell them to come back and get to work!” McCain bellowed.
Sorry, but I can’t let that one go by. McCain knows why.
It was only five days earlier, on July 30, that the Senate was voting for the eighth time in the past year on a broad, vitally important bill — S. 3335 — that would have extended the investment tax credits for installing solar energy and the production tax credits for building wind turbines and other energy-efficiency systems.
Both the wind and solar industries depend on these credits — which expire in December — to scale their businesses and become competitive with coal, oil and natural gas. Unlike offshore drilling, these credits could have an immediate impact on America’s energy profile.
Senator McCain did not show up for the crucial vote on July 30, and the renewable energy bill was defeated for the eighth time. In fact, John McCain has a perfect record on this renewable energy legislation. He has missed all eight votes over the last year — which effectively counts as a no vote each time. Once, he was even in the Senate and wouldn’t leave his office to vote.
Old John “Mr. Magoo” McCain forgot what day it was and missed the vote.
Don’t forget to change his Depends before bedtime or there will be an awful mess in the morning!
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
“John McCain Will Protect The Creative Industries From Piracy. The entertainment industry is both a vital sector of the domestic economy and among the largest US exporters. While the Internet has provided tremendous opportunity for the creators of copyrighted works, including music and movies, to distribute their works around the world at low cost, it has also given rise to a global epidemic of piracy. John McCain supports efforts to crack down on piracy, both on the Internet and off.”
But McCain has featured copyrighted musical clips in his own televised political campaign advertisements without first obtaining the required permissions from the copyright holders.
In the past, his campaign has been caught using various entertainment content owned by ABBA, Chuck Berry, John Hall, John Mellencamp, filmmaker Mike Myers of Wayne’s World and Frankie Valli without permission, and has been either shamed or threatened into discontinuing use of the offending material.
Don’t forget to wrap him up in a warm blanket and empty his spitoon.
By hillbilly ragger
August 22, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Jay, it would be unseemly and ungentlemanly to point out that John McCain never worked a day in his life that wasn’t either funded by the government or his heiress wife. It would be similarly wrong to refer to him as a “kept man,” or to point out that his real name is “John Sidney McCain the Third.”
So don’t do it. So often.
Bosch, from the dead thread below:
“When those people were gunned down by the wingnut lunatic at the Universalist Church a few weeks ago, he made a joke about that would be two less votes for Obama.”
That true, Bud? Are you really that much of a vile pr!ck? You joked about men who were shot while watching elementary-school children performing a song in a church?
If so, your disgusting punchline about Tubbs-Jones’ tragic death would just be par for the course, then.
As long as Bud has posting rights, I don’t want to hear anyone griping about me, or GHT, or any other lefty in here.
By Taxpayer
August 22, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Good one Jay. Now these Republicans are whining over spilled ketchup. I can find someone to clean that up for them for $50/hr. Heck, I’ll do it for $50/hr. Too bad Bush had to go and announce to our southern neighbors (with McCain confirming it) that US residents won’t get their hands dirty and do the $50/hr work that needs to be done. Heck, if I hung up a billboard like that outside my house, I’ll bet that I’d get lots of takers — fence or no fence. I’d have to form a homestead security task force and hire me a Czar just to deport the trespassers from my property. Ignorant Republicans — completely out of touch with reality.
By bdatlanta
August 22, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
The U.S. needs leadership with vision right now and John MCain is not the one to provide it. When asked why he wanted to be President a while back, McCain said he just decided that’s what he wanted to do next.
McCain has no vision of where he wants to take America. So, if elected, who will provide the vision? The lobbyists, of course.
W had no vision either. The vision provided during his two terms came from Rove and Cheney.
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
For one thing S 3335 has never been voted on in the Senate and failed to gain cloture 51-43 last time around.
Would GMAN like to tell us which of these sources he plagiarized the 10:03 from?
Both the wind and solar industries depend on these credits — which expire in December
In other words they aren’t viable sources without government subsidies. I thought you libs had decided you were against government subsidies.
Guess who else didn’t vote on this vitally important issue on Sept. 30.
Barack Obama D-Ill
Edward Kennedy D-MA
Roger Wicker R-MS
Claire McCaskill D-MO
John Rockefeller D-W.VA
From govtrack
By getalife "whiners"
August 22, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK: 1. Open a new file in your computer. 2. Name it ‘George W. Bush’. 3. Send it to the Recycle Bin. 4. Empty the Recycle Bin. 5. Your PC will ask you:’Do you really want to get rid of ‘George W. Bush’? 6. Firmly Click ‘Yes.’ 7. Feel better?
GOOD. Tomorrow we’ll do Dick Cheney!
By Abomi Nation
August 22, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
RealityKing asked, “I wonder how many of John’s homes were bought with the help of convicted felons??”
RK, I don’t think any of John McCain’s homes were bought with the help of a convicted felon. Although Cindy stole drugs from her own charity to supply her drug addiction, she was allowed to enroll in a diversion program and was never prosecuted.
Another elitist perk.
By Chris
August 22, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser: “McCain’s 5+ years imprisonment, coupled with the severe injuries his first wife had in an automobile accident, put a strain on their marriage they were unable to reconcile. They divorced amicably,…”
Once again, the Republicans apply their double-standards.
Obama isn’t a “regular guy” because he drinks orange juice instead of coffee, can’t bowl worth a damn, made his money by…wait for it…earning it (his $4 million or so comes entirely from the two books he wrote, the first of which was a big seller before he was nationally known), …
On the other hand, McCain marries into $100 million or so of family money (blood money since Cindy McCain’s father ran liquor during prohibition), owns 7 to 12 houses (actual number is unknown), wears $500-plus designer shoes and flies around on the family jet…yet, somehow, Mr. Naval Academy (he got into the Naval Academy because of his Dad and Grandfather—graduated second-to-bottom of his class—got into pilot training anyway—and crashed four planes in training) isn’t an “elite”.
Nope, according to Republican-think, pointing out that Obama bought a house in Hyde Park with money that he earned is justifiable, but pointing out the McCain has too many homes to count from money he married into/inherited is “class warfare”.
These guys think we’re idiots. Unfortunately, Bud Wiser and friends are proving them right.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
Was just talking to Ray on the other thread about this.
I don’t care what McCain or Kerry did in Vietnam - who they’ve married, or flips they’ve flopped, but for anyone to even dare to compare one combat serviceman’s record as somehow better or more “worthy” just goes to show the hypocrisy of the individual.
And in my opinion, is a deplorable act of disrespect to those brave men and women who risked their lives for us.
By hillbilly ragger
August 22, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
The GOP convention schedule is up.
(not a joke. Just thought someone might be interested. It came out yesterday but I didn’t notice it for all the shouting about the “McCain Housing Crisis” story.)
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
John McCain is soaring to new heights of hypocrisy on his wife’s personal jet. He flies around the country bent on duping the public into believing he’s “one of them,” a regular guy who can empathize with Americans facing an overwhelming economic crush. What’s more, he disparages those who oppose his ridiculous policy proposals as “elitist.” But who’s the real elitist?
The REAL McCain is a multimillionaire who owns ten luxurious homes. The REAL McCain backs President Bush’s tax cuts for big corporations. The REAL McCain empathizes only with the interests of our nation’s wealthy minority, not its money-strapped majority. But far too many are buying into McCain’s deceit because the corporate press won’t present the whole picture.
Don’t forget to change the batteries in his hearing aid and give him his arthritis medicine before sitting him in that big chair for his weekly interview with “Octogenarian Weekly”. It may be his last!
By Bud Wiser
August 22, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Hillbilly, I never made those remarks about the nut who shot those people in the church. Not that I wouldn’t have, but I did not. If what you accuse me of is true, then prove it. You cannot. Therefore, you are a liar and a fraud.
As far as the smoke about Tubbs-Jones, I was LMAO to see you fall over on that one! Hey dude, people die every day. So I used her death as a punchline? I choose to think of it more as a comment on the current state of affairs not only in the Democratic Party, but the black community as well. If you don’t like it, TS.
But the shooting in the church??? Not me. Your apology will be forthcoming I presume (not).
By Bud Wiser
August 22, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
So Hillbilly also wants to use what he considers my offensive remarks to justify offensive remarks of his own? How typical of a stupid, intellectually delinquent lib. Got to shout me down, do you? Ha ha, give it your best shot, moron.
You ignorant fools cannot refute anything you don’t like, you just want to drown it out with noise. No, change that to ‘you stupid fools’; the difference between stupid and ignorant is that an ignorant man simply does not have the facts in hand - a stupid man has them but chooses to ignore them.
And also you want to censor me? ha ha ha You are as stupid a troll as there is, but typical of the left wingnuts of your lowlife breed. What you cannot refute, or shout down, then censor it. God, you make it so easy to make you look stupid!
No need to go any further than the Most Holy Kennedy family in the Democrat family tree to see generations of pond scum frog hopping across the family graveyard to further their own political aspirations. And the complicit media? The so-called ‘major’ networks will be ginning it up soon. And what do I refer to? The countless dead Kennedy ‘documentaries’ we’ll be seeing between now and November; it happens every election cycle, regular as rain. Each successive generation, hopping on their predecessors gravestones, trying to stay in the limelight. Disgusting.
So go ahead hillbilly, spew your hate. I could really give a crap what you say anyway.
By hillbilly ragger
August 22, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Bosch made the claim. I was merely asking you to confirm or deny. My refering to you as a “pr!ck” was conditional.
I’ve nothing to apologize for. You have a problem with the accusation, take it up with the guy who made it originally.
And I see that you can’t even deny this alleged comment which, for the benefit of those just tuning in, concerned the shooting death of two men attending church services, where children were performing, without saying “not that I wouldn’t have.” Which is to say you actually wish you had made the comment. and you would’ve, given the opportunity. Do I have that right?
My assessment of you as a vile pr!ck stands. (And I didn’t even get into your “assessment of the black community”, which was essentially the kind of Nazi filth I’d expect from one of Joey Goebbels’ retarded offspring.)
By Bud Wiser
August 22, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
I denied it, you idiot. I also said for you to prove I said it. You cannot, so my statement calling you a liar and a fraud stand.
Call me what you like. You and your butthead friends are the real joke of America anyway.
Like I said before…”God, you make it so easy to make you look stupid!”
Keep up the good work.
By Jim
August 22, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Oh Jay,
You make some valid points, but you are leaving out some obvious facts…….you have never, and will never, hear John McCain criticizing his former comrades….calling them murderers, referring to soldiers as “Genghis Khan”. I’m pretty sure John McCain also did not throw away his medals (oh, that’s right…John Kerry only claimed to throw away his medals…..he was actually tossing someone else’s medals).
If you would like to compare the war records of John McCain and John Kerry, go right ahead. McCain comes out ahead every time in this comparison. John McCain wanted to be truthful in his response to the question about how many houses he owned. Would you have preferred him to dodge the question, mislead the American people, give a “nuanced ” answer, like the way Senator Obama did at Saddleback? Watching Obama answer tough questions from Rick Warren was almost as painful to watch as my youngest child answering whether or not her room is really clean……”Oh, I think the answer to that question is one that nobody can really answer with any clarity….uhm, uhm (with his head leaning ever so slightly to the left)….”I’m not really in favor of abortion, but I am firmly pro-choice…and I believe in Roe versus Wade”
Come om Jay….if you want to be viewed as a legitimate, independent, fair-minded columnist, then please present all the facts. If you want to continue to be a mouthpiece for the left, and distribute the talking points from the Obama campaign, then continue as usual….
By ByteMe
August 22, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Hillbilly and Bud,
You guys want to take it outside and settle it already?
By Bud Wiser
August 22, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
To Chris @ 1029, the comparison was between McCain and Kerry. Pay attention.
No need to compare McCain and Obama, though. I think America saw a pretty good comparison of those two at Saddleback. The AnswerMan (McCain) versus the Stumblebum (Obama).
Game over.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Jim,
Did John Kerry and John McCain BOTH fight in Vietnam?
If you answer “yes” to that question, they are both American heroes and BOTH deserve respect - end of question.
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Everybody’s watching what’s going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics. Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business you’re starting to think, “Beijing looks like a pretty good option.”-Barack Obama Dunce-Il
Does Barack Obama understand the nature of the Beijing regime? The reason that the government can afford all of this spending is that they control the means of production and the wealth of the nation. They can confiscate what they want at will and spend it where they like. And in Beijing, they spent it where the cameras would be pointed.
He probably likes that part and would like to model us after them.
The Chinese infrastructure that so enthralls Obama remains decades behind that of the US. What infrastructure China manages to build, however, gets its energy from oil and coal, not from wind and solar. China has become the highest emissions nation in the world and shows no sign of slowing itself down over concerns about anthropogenic climate change. In fact, the air in Beijing is so bad that outdoor Olympics events almost had to be moved.
America needs a President who can see past the facades. Obama has given every indication of gullibility, first with his pledge to conduct presidential-level diplomacy without preconditions with regimes like Iran, Cuba, and North Korea, and now in declaring China the place to do business. Obama isn’t at all ready to lead this nation; he’s not even ready to run a business, with thinking like this.
Except Barry is nothing but a facade himself.
By Bud Wiser
August 22, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Other than the fact that hillbilly lied about me on the post, and tried to justify his crap by what I may say or infer, and wanted me censored or pulled, I have no beef with him. He is too stupid to even reread his own post and apologize for what he said..“When those people were gunned down by the wingnut lunatic at the Universalist Church a few weeks ago, he made a joke about that would be two less votes for Obama.”
That true, Bud? Are you really that much of a vile pr!ck? You joked about men who were shot while watching elementary-school children performing a song in a church?”
Canhis own words be interpreted any other way? And of course he cannot prove I said it. Liar. Fraud. Add to that ignorant tool, because he reiterated it.
Hillbilly is kind of like your neighbor’s cat….you pat him on the head while the neighbor is around, but swerve the car at him while he’s crossing the street.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
RW,
And just think where all that $$$$ comes from to build all that in Beijing.
By Ray
August 22, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
Speaking as a person who has a couple of years invested in Vietnam service, there are some things that non veterans do not understand about your fellow servicemen/women. They are your ticket out with your head still on your shoulders and the thing that you NEVER do is to trash them, especially before the Congress of the US. This “distinguished senator from Boston”, as Midori called him, should be in jail and a cellmate with Hanoi Jane. Nothing wrong with protesting the war, a lot of credible Americans did this with dignity and integrity. But this dude…… he is about the sorriest excuse for a human being that God ever made.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 22, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
The gane has just begun…..
McCain, who huddled with advisors at his desert compound in Sedona, Ariz., said nothing in public. A nine-car motorcade took him to a nearby Starbucks early in the morning, where he ordered a large cappuccino. McCain otherwise avoided reporters.
By jasper
August 22, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Leadership is above my paygrade. - Barack Obama
By ByteMe
August 22, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Bud,
Hillbilly is kind of like your neighbor’s cat….you pat him on the head while the neighbor is around, but swerve the car at him while he’s crossing the street.
You don’t know that your neighbor isn’t reading this to his cat. You could end up with p!ss in your bed that’s not yours.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Ray,
“he is about the sorriest excuse for a human being that God ever made”
Wow, that’s pretty strong language there, considering the likes of Hitler, OBL, James Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, need I continue?
In other words - got hyperbole?
Face it. You hate him because he’s a Democrat.
By Midori
August 22, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Yeah, Ray — and McInsane needs to be in an insane asylum somewhere.
The bumbling, lying poseur. I hear he has a volatile temper. Par for the course. All of you wingnuts come off as rather unhinged.
See how that works?
By ByteMe
August 22, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
So, Ray, are you more upset because what Kerry said was true or because he said it out loud in front of Congress? And how upset are you about those who used their family contacts or position in life to get out of going or getting a special placement to keep them out of harm’s way? Just curious how far your outrage extends.
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Obama-Blackwell 08
So this guy Blackwell raises money for Barry to run for office, Michelle funnels money back to Blackwell and Blackwell in turn hires Barry as a lawyer, then Barry gets earmarks increased to both Michelle’s hospital and Blackwells ping-pong tournament and Blackwell continues to raise enormous sums of money in campaign contributions all the while funneling more back to Barry in legal fees.
Yes, I’m sure this is all on the up and up. Nothing to see here, move along.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
RW,
Sounds like politics to me. I’m sure no Republican candidate has EVER done such.
Oh, never!
By AJC/DNC Management
August 22, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Stiffed!
Obama has often said, most recently on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on July 27, that Bruno “would be on anybody’s short list.”
But apparently not his.
“She was never vetted,” a Democratic official reported. “She was not asked for a single piece of paper. She and Senator Obama have never had a single conversation about it. How would he know if she’d take it?”
How about it White Powers, do thee as-s sting any?
Bwa.
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
“… it will be vital that we continue oil production at a high level including offshore drilling. Now, the briefings that I have had with the oil producers, there are some instances that within a matter of months, they could be getting additional oil.” (John “Mr. Magoo” McCain)
But there’s abundant resources in the view of the people who are in the business that could be exploited within a period of months. So offshore drilling is something we have to do. (John “Mr. Magoo” McCain)
WOW, what a load of whoee! The constraints on offshore drilling have little to do with the price of oil, but a lot to do with timing. Once the leases are available, it is 5 to 10 years before you get to exploratory drilling. There is a tremendous shortage of drilling rigs and manpower. Plus, offshore drilling is so expensive, you don’t want to make any mistakes. So you do a lot of seismic analysis to minimize your chances of a dry well. And it is probably another five or more years from drilling your exploratory well to getting significant production from the area — and that assumes you didn’t dig a dry well. If you did, then you are probably going to be even more cautious. And all that assumes you have developed a pipeline infrastructure for delivering the oil. But the Atlantic Coast lacks such an infrastructure, so who knows how long it would take to get its oil?
Do forget to close the window close to Mr. Magoo’s side of the bed. We wouldn’t want his arthritis, phlebitis, and rheumatism to flare-up again!
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Yes they have. I fully believe that Duke Cunningham belongs in jail for doing much the same as what you want to put Obama in charge of the entire US government for.
By Political Foreskin
August 22, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
Anyone else notice how I tricked those fallguy maroons Duhng and RW into not using italics? What a couple of knuckleheads.
They swing at everything I write. Unbelievable. I wonder how many liar loans McCain used to finance all those houses. McCain was a child prodigy at Monopoly, and used to counterfeit the Monopoly money.
Obama 08: Truth to power
CNN reports that the USA men’s and women’s olympic relay team had been practicing with chopsticks in their warmups before they both dropped the batons in the races. Apparently the chinese had hid their practice batons knowing what would happen. The chinese have cheated this entire olympic event in all sports, and I demand an investigation
By AJC/DNC Management
August 22, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Rush: Hillary wasn’t even vetted.
Am I good or what?
By hillbilly ragger
August 22, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Midori @ 11.45, I’ve heard similar things.
I can’t wait for what McCain does to the next person to greet him with “What up, homes?”
Bud @ now-countless posts insisting that you don’t give a crap about me—get help with that reading comprehension problem of yours. I know you’ve a lonnng list of disorders, too many revealed in this comments thread alone to list, but above all else, uber alles if you will, Reading is Fun-da-mental.
Byteme @ 11.10, point taken. I’m officially done with this fool. Let him fling poo like a crack-monkey, I don’t care.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
RW,
Obama wouldn’t be in charge of the entire U.S. government. Haven’t you taken high school civics? There’s the Congress, and the Supreme Court.
Sorry, couldn’t help being a smart a$$ on that one. It’s Friday.
If what Obama had done was illegal, don’t you think he’d be on trial for that by now? And not running for President with a pretty good showing of support?
BTW, not saying it’s right, just saying it happens, on both sides.
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
McCain Defended Opposition Of Federal MLK Holiday By Saying He Supported Arizona’s State Holiday. During a press availability in Panama City, Florida, John McCain said, “I have supported hundreds of pieces of legislation, which would help Americans obtain an equal opportunity in America. I am proud of that record, from fighting for the recognition of Dr. Martin Luther King’s birthday in my state to sponsoring specific legislation that would prevent discrimination in any shape or form in America today.” [McCain Press Availability In Panama City, Florida, 8/1/08]
• FACT: McCain Supported Republican AZ Governor’s Decision To Rescind MLK Holiday. ABC News reported, “In Arizona, a bill to recognize a holiday honoring MLK failed in the legislature, so then-Gov. Bruce Babbitt, a Democrat, declared one through executive order. In January 1987, the first act of Arizona’s new governor, Republican Evan Mecham, was to rescind the executive order by his predecessor to create an MLK holiday. Arizona’s stance became a national controversy. McCain backed the decision at the time.” [ABC News, 4/3/08]
• FACT: McCain Supported Gov. Evan Mecham’s Decision In 1987 To Rescind Martin Luther King Jr. Day. As reported by the Philadelphia Inquirer, “In a vote likely to haunt him for the rest of his public career, McCain voted against 1983 legislation establishing the third Monday in January as the federal holiday marking King’s birthday. Back home in Arizona, he supported Gov. Evan Mecham’s decision in 1987 to rescind an executive order creating a state holiday for King, but later reversed his position.” [Philadelphia Inquirer, 6/16/08]
• FACT: McCain Voted Against Creating Martin Luther King Holiday. In 1983, McCain voted against a motion to suspend the rules and pass a bill to designate the third Monday of every January as a federal holiday in honor of the late civil rights leader, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. The motion passed 89-77. [HR 3706, Vote 289, 8/2/83; CQ 1983]
Liar, liar, pants on fire!
Don’t forget to wear your name tag when you go into Mr. Magoo’s bedroom, Cindy! You know how he can’t remember faces or names.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
hillbilly ragger,
I think I owe you an apology.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 22, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Rush: Everybody’s watching what’s going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics. Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their…………….
Is RW good or what?
By Political Foreskin
August 22, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
CNN just reported that the Statue of Liberty dropped her torch today in the 100 year occupation of Iraq, totally disqualifying her from further competing for Iraq’s oil. Liar-loan McCain, who is appealing the disqualification, wants to race in Iraq forI wonder how many liar loans McCain used to finance all those houses.
Obama 08: Truth to power
CNN reports that the USA men’s and women’s olympic relay team had been practicing with chopsticks in their warmups before they both dropped the batons in the races. Apparently the chinese had hid their practice batons knowing what would happen. The chinese have cheated this entire olympic event in all sports, and I demand an investigation 100 years, which is like a thousand year reich in Dogs-of-War years, man. Zeig, Heil!
Liar-loan McCain: How many wives, houses, and sides to issues does he have? Who cares? He’ll just lie about it. Liar-loan McCain. He’s a liar.
Obama 08: America4America
By @@
August 22, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
You’re absolutely correct Jay. In 2004, there was a military attack launched against Kerry. My vote was cast in behalf of the military that was against John Kerry.
Somewhere in there (the 2004 campaign), there was the claim of “an elitist attitude” launched against Kerry. He lived up to that claim when he labeled those fighting in Iraq as dummies who had nowhere else to go but in defense of our country.
In the 2000 election, a baseless smear campaign was launched against McCain by? To my knowledge, they’ve never found who initiated the South Carolina push poll. So McCain has been the victim of a political smear, but not a military smear.
Here’s what bothers me. OBlahMa came into this campaign claiming to be above it all. He’s not! Don’t lie to me. Don’t insult my intelligence. When push comes to shove, OBlahMa knows how to play dirty — just check out his political ascension in Illinois politics for the proof you need.
OBlahMa’s revenge tactics are being used to counter his diminishing poll numbers.
McCain’s revenge tactics have been directed towards a biased media.
The media helped OBlahMa in his rise to the nomination, and John McCain seized the opportunity to use their bias against their candidate. Pretty smart move in my opinion. OBlahma’s attacks “reside” in pettiness.
Now…..as the Democrats, themselves said in 2004 “a candidate’s wealth should not matter as long as he or she was trying to help the little guy.” Movin’ on…….
I would say that McCain pointing out to democratic voters that their nominating process was manipulated by the media does that. Whether the “little guys” want to see it or not is beyond his control.
By Liar-loan McCain
August 22, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Liar-loan McCain is so old, that he wasn’t just involved in the Piltdown Man hoax, he WAS the Piltdown Man.
Liar-loan McCain is not wanted in all fifty states, so dont be on the lookout..
Obama 08: America takes over.
By Midori
August 22, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
LOL, Bosch and Hillbilly Ragger -
check it out
:)
By AL
August 22, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Kerry is a loser that has accomplished nothing in Washington. Go ahead name something? That’s what I thought he’s accomplished nothing. About the same amount as Pelosi. McCain will win in November and I think the Socialists see it slipping away. The Government that is Big Brother, Daddy , husband, provider, and saviour to the socialists is not going to happen. Most of America doesn’t want it and that will be evident in November. Wise Up!!!
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
It’s hyperbole son, the blogosphere wouldn’t be any fun without it.
As you well know I’m a firm believer in the presumption of innocence and since nobody ever looks into anything Obambi does it’s a pretty safe bet they won’t look into Blackwell either. My response to you played off of your comment that assumed he had done what I allege, which would be illegal, and you excused this illegal activity because some unnamed by you Republican must have done such a thing too.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Midori,
LOL!!! Where do you find these cartoons?
You’re right wing parrot is still my favorite.
@@,
I could take you a little more serious if you’d use Obama’s real name - otherwise you come across as a bitter 12-year-old.
By Liar-loan McCain
August 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
An interview with Liar-loan McCain.
Q: Why doesn’t anyone believe a word you say?
Liar-loan McCain: “Thats a lie. I have a solid constituency who all have many wives and homes like me, and they listen.”
Q: Isn’t a vote for you just a vote for 4 more Bush years, which is like 100 years in Dogs-of-War years?
Liar-loan McCain: “That’s another lie, you liar. The formula for Dogs of War years is not 25 to one, it’s more like ten to one. You’re a liar.”
Q: Is Bush agreeing to a time horizon for Troop Withdrawals playing into the terrorist’s hands?
Liar-loan McCain: “That’s a lie. Bush is not cutting and running. The Iraq-Pakistani border, where Osama Bin Laden is hiding in caves, is where those troops will be sent, and that’s not a surrender. One more lie and this interview is over.”
Q: Did Saddam pilot all four planes into the Trade Towers on 911 and then escape with Osama bin Laden’s driver in a volvo packed with C4 and antrax?
Liar-loan McCain: “Comeon, that’s old news, of course, that’s true, and thanx for not lying about it. I think we can continue this interview.”
Q: Do you think you’re going to get away with wet starting that jet on the Forrestal and causing the biggest naval catastrophe of the Vietnam War?
Liar-loan McCain: “that’s a lie. Interview over. I have to go wet start my wife, (wink).”
Q: Thank you Liar-loan McCain.
Liar-loan McCain: “And quit calling me Liar-loan McCain, moron.”
Q: bwa
By Chris
August 22, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Bud Wiser: “To Chris @ 1029, the comparison was between McCain and Kerry. Pay attention.”
To Bud Wiser @11:14. Pay attention.
Regardless of the facts, Republican strategists always label the Dem presidential candidates as “elites” and Republican presidential candidates as “regular guys”. Republican Kool-Aid drinkers (that’s you), always fall for it.
By Liar-loan McCain
August 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
An interview with Liar-loan McCain.
Q: Why doesn’t anyone believe a word you say?
Liar-loan McCain: “Thats a lie. I have a solid constituency who all have many wives and homes like me, and they listen.”
Q: Isn’t a vote for you just a vote for 4 more Bush years, which is like 100 years in Dogs-of-War years?
Liar-loan McCain: “That’s another lie, you liar. The formula for Dogs of War years is not 25 to one, it’s more like ten to one. You’re a liar.”
Q: Is Bush agreeing to a time horizon for Troop Withdrawals playing into the terrorist’s hands?
Liar-loan McCain: “That’s a lie. Bush is not cutting and running. The Iraq-Pakistani border, where Osama Bin Laden is hiding in caves, is where those troops will be sent, and that’s not a surrender. One more lie and this interview is over.”
Q: Did Saddam pilot all four planes into the Trade Towers on 911 and then escape with Osama bin Laden’s driver in a volvo packed with C4 and antrax?
Liar-loan McCain: “Comeon, that’s old news, of course, that’s true, and thanx for not lying about it. I think we can continue this interview.”
Q: Do you think you’re going to get away with wet starting that jet on the Forrestal and causing the biggest naval catastrophe of the Vietnam War?
Liar-loan McCain: “that’s a lie. Interview over. I have to go wet start my wife, (wink).”
Q: Thank you Liar-loan McCain.
Liar-loan McCain: “And quit calling me Liar-loan McCain, moron.”
Q: bwa
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
RW,
“the blogosphere wouldn’t be any fun without it”
Well, okay.
Are you seriously suggesting the the likes of the pit viper Karl Rove and his merry band of cut throats haven’t looked into every activity that Obama has been involved in?
No, certainly you aren’t suggesting that.
Just the notion of that one makes me laugh to myself.
And no, I don’t assume he’s done what you alleged, at least not in the hyperbolic way it’s presented.
OH, but I forgot - hyperbole’s fun!!!
Yeah!!!!
Gotta run for now.
By @@
August 22, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
I could take you a little more serious if you’d use Obama’s real name - otherwise you come across as a bitter 12-year-old.
That’s just me Bosco!
Like I told JAY B., I’m committed to OBlahMa.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
RW,
One more thing - if you are such a champion of the “innocent until proven guilty” theory - then why do you keep bringing up allegations like you just did with Obama?
So, am I to believe because you say so, that Obama is guilty of so-called illegal or unethical activity, just because no one has bothered to, or will bother to look into it?
That just doesn’t make sense.
By Liar-loan McCain
August 22, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
A vote for Liar-loan McCain is a vote for 4 more years of War mongering, word mangling Bush, which is like 100 years in Dogs-of-War years, man.
Obama 08: Truth to Power.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 22, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Susan Eisenhower Leaving GOP For Good, Cites McCain’s “Rove-Style” Politics…..My decision came at the end of last week when it was demonstrated to the nation that McCain and this Bush White House have learned little in the last five years. They mishandled what became a crisis in the Caucusus, and this has undermined U.S. national security. At the same time, the McCain camp appears to be comfortable with running an unworthy Karl Rove–style political campaign. Will the McCain operation, and its sponsors, do anything to win?
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 22, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
If you can stream Nova M…..
Thom Hartmann is about to interview Jerome Corsi
By Steve
August 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Wow, that Liar-loan McCain bit has legs. The moniker is gold. It just rolls off the tongue, and creates a character that lives and springs off the page.
Liar-loan McCain works because McCain stepped in the housing crisis. He’s such a fool, really. This one gaff alone disqualifies him as much as if he himself dropped the baton in a relay race.
Liar-loan McCain, hi ho silver (tongue), and AWAY!!! Who was that truth-masked man? I dont know, but he left this silver suppository as a remembrance…..ew..(is silver supposed to tarnish like that…..that’s not tarnish…….ew)
bwa
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
In return for medical treatment at a civilian hospital, a privilege never granted to other injured POWs, McCain reportedly told NVA interrogators the name of his aircraft carrier, how many Navy pilots had been lost, the number of planes in his flight formation, tactics used during bomb runs and the location of rescue ships in the Tonkin Gulf. Because of the revelations which McCain repeated in propaganda radio broadcasts,the North Vietnamese contemptuously nicknamed him “Songbird.”
Oh, how the Songbird sings!
Don’t forget to place his toupee on the nightstand next to his teeth in the jar.
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
The following will not be hyperbolic in any way
When something smells as fishy as the Blackwell thing does someone should bring up the allegations. Allegations are usually investigated to ensure that things are being properly done or if there appears to be criminal or at least ethical concerns. generally speaking ethical concerns would be taken up by the Senate for Obama. If it appears criminal than the Justice department would investigate and bring charges or exonerate based on the findings of their investigation. should they bring charges then they must prove them in court. That is the presumption of innocence, not that you presume innocence so you never investigate.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 22, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
The Roaming McGnome
McCain-el-ocity?
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G.,
What’s going on with Barry’s VP pick? He seems to be treating it like a late Friday dump of documents you don’t want anybody to see.
By GodHatesTrash
August 22, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Cindy Lou McCain, 54, is married to a man that has to wear diapers - she has all those homes so she can justify all those pretty pool boys.
That old coot she’s married to is right - what a c-word.
The morals of an alley cat, the ethics of a pimp.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 22, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
the many ways that John McCain covered-up the Abramoff Scandal
By Bud Wiser
August 22, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
To Chris @ 1247…..How stupid are you? The original reference was a subject on McCain vis-a-vis Kerry, and still you can’t figure that out???
Instead of proselytizing your insipid Huffington Pus/POS bullpuckey, why don’t you learn to read first, and comprehend second?
About the only accurate phrase you used that represents how most libs function was ” Regardless of the facts,…”, because a good mindless drone like you apparently seems to live in your own little cocoon and continue to exist “regardless of the facts.”
Why don’t you just shut your yap until you can come up with something better to say; oh, that’s right, it’s those “facts” that keep getting in your way. Idiot.
By GodHatesTrash
August 22, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the link Mrs. G. - poor old Ike has been rolling over in his grave since Reagan.
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
It is now beyond a doubt that John McCain embellished/made up his story about the cross in the dirt in Vietnam, and he needs to be thoroughly questioned by a prominent journalist on a major network.
McCain’s story is so similar to Russian author Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s rendition of his experience in a Siberian gulag that it simply cannot be true.
This old man he play one. He play John Wayne with YOUR son…
Don’t forget to empty that bedpan. If you don’t, he has the whole house smelling in the morning!
By GodHatesTrash
August 22, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Hanoi John’s “Cross in the Sand” is just as fictitious as his torture stories - McCain let Ho know early and often that his pappy was an admiral.
By T
August 22, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
GMAN
Lol, thanks for the laugh.
By GodHatesTrash
August 22, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
At the bottom of Hanoi John’s lies lie the one fact he cannot change - how did he become a POW?
HE SURRENDERED
By RW-(the original)
August 22, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
“We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies,” Obama told a crowd of supporters in Virginia. “They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”
So our “charging into” Iraq—with dozens of allies, supported by a U.N. resolution, as a last resort after six months of build-up and negotiations, to unseat one of the cruelest dictators of modern times who had twice invaded neighboring states, was in violation of more than a dozen U.N. resolutions and was responsible for the deaths of something like two million people, who was shooting at American aircraft and had tried to assassinate a former President of the United States, in Obama’s childish mind, was just like Russia’s “charging into” Georgia, which resembles Saddam’s Iraq in no respect. And, of course, we invaded a horrifying charnel-house so as to establish a democracy, whereas Russia invaded a peaceful democracy that it wants to re-incorporate into its empire.
To The Dunce it is.
By getalife "whiners"
August 22, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
w signed the surrender in Iraq.
Did somebody inform McDraft on how many houses he owns?
I see dangling house keys rattling at the dem convention.
Keep in mind, the worst president in our history endorsed McDraft.
By GodHatesTrash
August 22, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Of course red staters don’t hold McCain’s surrendering against him - their biggest hero - Bobby Lee - is world reknowned for his surrender at Appomattox.
By Bosch
August 22, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
RW,
And have any of these so-called unethical or criminal activities been investigated?
NO? Shocking.
By GMAN
August 22, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Slandering and lying are not below John McCain. Does anyone remember his blatant lie in the primary that Mitt Romney supported a timetable for withdrawal? McCain hammered Romney incessantly and Romney wasn’t ready for it, but it was nothing short of a lie. And now McCain is lying again in his new attack ad against Barack Obama claiming that the reason Barack didn’t visit wounded soldiers in Germany was that he wasn’t allowed to take “cameras.”
Don’t forget to hide all the knives and forks! Mr. Magoo might hurt himself.
By Truth
August 22, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
GodHatesTrash…. You are unbelievable!
By Goldie
August 22, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
I think it may be fair for the trolls to keep trying to make an issue about “Tony Rezko”, and we’ll be more than glad to keep reminding you of the Keating Five scandal that McBush himself was involved with back in the 80’s — or had you forgotten about all those kickbacks that McBush took in his own two hands, RWanker???
Let’s talk about who’s really been shown to be a criminal, like those members of the Keating Five… stealing all those $$$ and then stickin’ it to us taxpayers to get them outta that mess!!!
Shame, shame, shame — and McBush dares to aspire to the presidency.
By Goldie
August 22, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Many Dems just can’t wait to bring up McBush’s criminal activities — he’s a liar and a thief!
John McCain and the Keating Five, What Every Voter MUST Know
You’re welcome! All for your own edumacation about the real McBush…
By Goldie
August 22, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
And this report from McBush’s own home state. Pee-ewww, he stinks! Called “McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five”… Not only is McBush one ugly ole white dude, he’s also a snake who lies when confronted with the truth:
So you, McCain, leak to reporters about who did Keating’s bidding in pressuring federal regulators to change the rules for Lincoln Savings and Loan.— When the reporters fail to print your tips quickly enough—as in the case of your tip on Michigan Senator Donald Riegle—you call them back and remind them how important it is to get that information in the newspapers. — The story of “the Keating Five” has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate. … Those who survive will be the sociopaths who can tell a lie with the most sincere, straight face. You are especially adept at this.
McBush, the Sociopath.
By mike hussein smith
August 22, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
What’s so funny about the housing gaffe is that McSame surely must know he does not own any houses. A truthful answer — zero — would have prevented his sticking foot in mouth. But it would have revealed his status as a kept man. Decisions, decisions!!
By Ray
August 22, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Slip slidin’ away, Slip slidin’ away, You know the nearer the destination, The mo’ you keep slidin’ awaaaEEEyyy.
Keep talkin’, libs, this one is slowly being slipped from your grasp as America wises up to this empty suit. Only about 70 days left. Will you want your crow BBQed or deep fried? How ‘bout fries with that?
By Billy
August 22, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this
That true, Bud? Are you really that much of a vile pr!ck? You joked about men who were shot while watching elementary-school children performing a song in a church?”
Canhis own words be interpreted any other way?
Not only can they be, but they should be. Anyone with an elementary school education should notice the question mark at the end of his sentences and, based on said punctuation, interpret the preceding words as…questions.
By Bud Wiser August 22, 2008 1