Jay Bookman

By hillbilly ragger

August 21, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Simple. too early. They’re keeping their powder dry until a carefully stage-managed emergency just happens to “break out” in October, sending voters into the arms of their beloved Daddy-President and his trusted successor, McCain.

Yeah, it’s paranoid but I don’t put anything past these creeps.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Gives Russia the time to chat with Syria about setting up their own missile defense system.

Wonder….We haven’t been able to hit the broad side of a barn with ours, is their’s any better?

By RW-(the original)

August 21, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

So if there isn’t some Republican doing something for Jay to demonize he just makes up some alternate reality and demonizes them anyway. Must be nice to be an editorial writer, but I thought even then it was supposed to be at least grounded in facts. Sickening indeed.

By jasper

August 21, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Jay - and if my sister had balls, she’d be my brother. Seriously, give us something provocative. Is there a gag order out there for the libbie press on Hillary as VP, so as not to diminish the surprise. She’s the only thing that could slow down his poll slide, at least for a while.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Are you not a hyena Jay?

Since when has diplomacy and coordination with the rest of the world become so taboo?

Did I miss something?

By "The Corporal"

August 21, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

No - the difference is if the Democrats were in they would have all of Europe by now.

By TW

August 21, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

The only difference between ‘w’ and McSame is that one doesn’t know he’s a loser and the other brags about being one.

The last thing this country needs right now, especially in light of Russia’s giggle at our pitiful attempt at ruffling any feathers we might have left – the very last thing we need right now is to line up behind someone who boasts about having once been shot down and captured. Eight years of losing is enough.

‘w’ turned our bald eagle into a buzzard. McSame will kill it.

‘w’ had Iraq.

McSame wants Russia.

Being that it’s our soldiers and our money, isn’t it time for an American President?

Obama ‘08

By @@

August 21, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

It would be sickening.

Jay, Is yours accompanied by a fever?

By jasper

August 21, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Russia is invading its old satellites. Iran is threating nuclear proliferation. Pakistan is up for grabs. Europe is as powerless as they are spineless. And here in the good ole USA we are seriously considering a community activist for the next Commander in Chief. Can you say “Deer in the Headlights”.

By Midori

August 21, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

I Spent Years as a POW with John McCain, and His Finger Should Not Be Near the Red Button

By hillbilly ragger

August 21, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

TW @ 9.44, what some Americans seem to want is an ill-tempered, forgetful man who can’t keep Sunni and Shia straight, jokes about slaughtering Iranians, makes horrific gaffes on an almost daily basis, has spent the past three decades cocooned in a kept-man’s world, shuttling between DC in his six—no, maybe more! He forgets how many! houses—and has barely enough stamina to make it to one campaign event per weekday.

Some. But I doubt most do.

For those rejoicing in a modest nationwide polling slip by Obama, I might remind you that Obama has barely begun to attack McCain, instead focusing on his own positives. McCain’s reputation, favorability and trustworthiness has nowhere to go but south. Literally and figuratively.

Seriously, the best shot the GOP has (beyond their current strategy of daily poo-flinging-to-see-what-sticks) is to gin up another military conflict and hope that Americans are once again stupid enough to entrust the GOP with managing its strategic affairs. God help us if they do.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Yep, Just exactly what we need at a time of crisis…..

Hair Trigger John McCain.

eeek!

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Limbaugh and his Dittoheads would be braying like a pack of cartoon hyenas

Jay, I believe you’ve very succintly described the Dittoheads as they exist today— their fake outrage about anything involving the Dems is boring and disgusting.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Did you see yesterday where McCain didn’t know how many homes he owns?

By InLastingMemory

August 21, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

A new age dawns. The Chinese have developed low-cost housing for us — a shelter with walls and roof constructed from ETFE bubble wrap.

The banks foreclose on their complicit if not explicit failings. With nothing left but the inflated proceeds from the scrap copper sale, you head off to make a new life for yourself. Later that day, a roll of bubble wrap accompanies you out the automatic doors of the WalMart. From there it turns out to be a short hike to the neighborhood green space — a local park — but just for the night. In the morning, it’s off to the nearest national forest where the all but undisturbed expanses can be foraged for sustenance well away from the prying eyes and ears and outstretched hand of the anointed one, King Bush.

You lick your wounds while savoring the nuts and berries that the black bear had stubbornly clung to for far too long. Was it worth the fight. That’s a question for another day for now it is time to establish a new castle to defend — a mortgage-free castle constructed from bubble wrap. Only time and the elements will ultimately prove its true worth but for now it will suffice as affordable housing.

Night falls and an American dreams with a roof over his head and food in his stomach. If only there had been a willow tree nearby. The bark could have provided much needed affordable relief from the reminders of the earlier fight for survival. In the morning, a search for a sustainable source of water and a site for a latrine, separated from the water source by at least one hundred feet in order to avoid contamination, will help to complete the castle grounds.

When the King’s men come knocking, you offer no reply. The ETFE absorbs the waves from the repeated knocks at the entrance to your castle. You do not hear a thing. The tax collectors ultimately tire of the lack of response and scavenge within your self-proclaimed homestead in the King’s forest for something of value to take back to the King Bush.

The tax collectors eventually reach the conclusion that today’s search has once again provided nothing more than proof of the time-tested reality that once the blood has been taken from the turnip, it does not produce more and repeated attempts at further extractions will repeatedly lead to the same result. There is nothing left to hock. The King has long since acquired all that you had, including your first-born and your first-born’s first-born. For that, his name might be remembered for generations to come.

The King’s legacy is complete. Long live the King.

By jasper

August 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

And I spent years snorting cocaine with Barry. “hey man, what’s that button for?”

By RW-(the original)

August 21, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Instead of being sickened over some made up fantasy world scenario, I’ll stick to being sickened by a real one.

Obama protected infanticide in order to protect abortion on demand. There simply is no other explanation except abject stupidity, and this passage proves it.

By professional skeptic

August 21, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Don’t have time to read the comments posted so far….

Nonetheless… Where indeed? Where are the hyenas? Right now we hear just crickets chirping!! So strange!! Hello? Hyenas? Helllooooooo???

By getalife "whiners"

August 21, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

“ROMNEY: Well, Hugh, my own view is as the Caucuses are a hot spot, and as Russians have shown their willingness to act militarily against a sovereign nation, that the International Olympic Committee ought to revisit locating the Games elsewhere.”

There goes the Chicago Olympics. They should STFU. Mormon or moron?

Anyhoo, Rice finally did her job and set a withdrawal date in Iraq. What a freaking waste.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

1st clue that somebody will do anything and say anything to get McBush elected…

believing Obama supports infanticide.

That’s beyond nonsense and is actually EVIL.

But twist the facts, misinterpret the motives and add the image of something bloody and you get the perfect recipe for what is just another ugly GOP smear.

GOP limbo….how low can you go!

By CJ

August 21, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

There’s actually lots of evidence to support Bookman’s assertion that the right applies such a double-standard. North Korea is a perfect example.

In the 90’s Carter/Clinton were labeled appeasers when they agreed to send North Korea heavy fuel oil in exchange for dismantling their nuclear program. We eventually broke our promise (thereby voiding the agreement) because the Republican-led Congress refused to appropriate funds for the fuel oil. When G.W. Bush implements essentially the same agreement, what do the Republicans say? Nothing. Nearly complete silence.

I say “nearly” complete because when John Bolton cries, to our detriment, the media makes sure that we know about it.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Let’s Howl about this!

“”Bush Administration Agrees To “Timetable” For Withdrawl From Iraq”“

Thanks Senator Obama, for turning the discussion in he right direction!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Here’s a howler…

Speaking about Georgia, McCain told a town hall in Las Cruces, New Mexico on Wednesday: “They had a corrupt government headed by a guy named Shevardnadze, who you may remember from the days of the Cold War. And they had a peaceful revolution and they took over, and they were putting democracy and freedom and human rights, and they were prospering.”

In November 1999, the same John McCain described Shevardnadze as “one the great men in the history of the world” during a GOP debate at Arizona State University.

More here

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

“I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president.”

John McCain 2002 book, “Worth the Fighting For”

By Jasper

August 21, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Thanks Senator 143 days Obama for not backing the surge or understanding how it could work and finally for not admitting that it did work and you were wrong not to back it in the first place. Thanks for exposing your naivte in military matters. With current geopolitical tensions rising, you have helped us make up our mind for the election. Thanks again.

By hillbilly ragger

August 21, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G, be reasonable. McCain’s a busy man. He does as many as one whole campaign event almost every single weekday!

We can’t expect him to remember whether he called Shvardnadze “corrupt” or a “great man.”

Just like we can’t expect him to remember whether or not the Iranians train their sworn enemy al-qaeda; that’s why he keeps Joe Liberman around, to whisper the right answer in his ear!

And it’s way, way too much to expect an important man like McCain to know how many homes he owns.

By Taxpayer

August 21, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G, you ask how low. How about the GOP lobotomy. Their low-cost solution for what ails their constituency. They also proudly report that they have not had a single complaint from any of their constituency since introducing the procedure. It’s as though they no longer have a care in the world.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Thanks Senator Obama for standing up and saying that the surge gave us some improvement in Iraq!

Thanks Senator Obama for reminding is that all the benchmarks have not been met.

Thanks Senator Obama for remiding us that ths surge took longer than we were promised.

Thanks Senator Obama for reminding us that all the surge troops have not been removed from Iraq yet.

Thanks Senator Obama for reminding us that had we tried aggressive diplomacy instead of a troop surge, we could have saved thousands of lives and billions of dollars….and been talking about withdrawal time lines over a year earlier.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Sorry, spelling atrocious today….

By TW

August 21, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

All the Surge did was show that four Marines are better than two - something most of us already knew.

Due the failure of the Iraqi government to flourish under the umbrella of the Surge, the nation remains just as flammable.

BTW - one is a fool to evaluate the Surge without assessing the deterioration of Afghanistan, being that we Surged in Iraq INSTEAD OF KILLING THE ANIMALS THAT DROPPED OUR TOWERS!!!

By RealityKing

August 21, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

The hyenas aren’t howling right now because they’re laughing to hard at:

Europes sense of security

Russians sense of authority

Georgia’s sense of independence

and Jay’s sense of objectivity..

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Barack Obama just PERSONALLY went after McCain on the houses quote.:

“Think about that. I guess if you think that being rich means you’ve got to make $5 million, and if you don’t know how many houses you have, then it’s not surprising that you might think the economy is fundamentally strong!”

“But if you’re like me, and you’ve got one house… you might have a different perspective.”

GAME ON

By Political Foreskin

August 21, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

If there’s no military option in Iraq, then there’s not one for Georgia.

A vote for McCain is a vote for four more Bush years, which is like 100 years in Dogs-of-War years.

The Bigfoot autopsy report has been published. In his stomach, They found a hand delivered foreclosure notice, (with the hand), a policeman’s cap, (with the policeman), and Bubba.

Obama 08: America found. America sound.

By Paul

August 21, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

It’s always interesting how these columns are constructed. The lead puts the US (SecState) in the spotlight – not NATO. NATO decided upon a course of action. SecState Rice “urged” a course of action? Sure. So did other member states. But it was a NATO show. It also keeps the emphasis on the US and the present administration, not upon Europe and NATO.

The second paragraph seems to belittle NATO’s declaration. No sources given, but a Washington Post article

Link: [NATO Urges Russia To Withdraw but Will Say Little Else]*( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/19/AR2008081900216.html)

Makes the case the US got what it wanted. Other member states got what they wanted, others didn’t.

[[Success would have been in preventing that sequence of events, and we failed. At this point, no military response is feasible or advisable.]]

That’s an interesting view of the ability of the US or the US and its allies to control the actions of a major state pursuing its own security objectives, especially when they are not the same objectives held by the US or its allies. By this standard, is any action by a nation that is not what we want a “failure?” Or only those involving military action? Argentina took the Falklands. They went to war with the UK. Did the US “fail?” Russia invaded Afghanistan. Did the US “fail?”

Or did Russia fail the world by not abiding by the post-Cold War standard of not invading Republics that pursue their own form of government and alliances?

As to the rest of the column, it may be satisfying to perpetuate a caricature of farright Republicans desiring to “take the fight to the Russians in their own back yard.” They may exploit it for the ratings and money game, but as a serious policy option, I hope not.

In a similar vein, we’ve already heard from a possible Vice President what he would do to stop a war in another part of the world – send in the Marines and the Air Force – and force them to make nice. VP Biden, I don’t think Limbaugh and his Dittoheads’ll support you on that one.

By HERO

August 21, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

With my 3.8 hours of combat, I’ll personally chase that evil OBL to the gates of Hell - or my name’s not John cross-in-the-dust McCain!

By Obambi

August 21, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, me one house, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that, uh, uh, uh, Tony Resko built for me, uh.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Let’s just see what the Georgians have to say about “weak” and “helpless” America:

“The West saved the capital. They were moving to Tbilisi. There was one night that was very dangerous. The Russian tanks were very close to the capital. I don’t know what happened, but they moved the tanks back.” And my translator, whose husband works for Georgia’s ministry of foreign affairs, made a similar guess that the West helped save the capital. “The night they came close to Tbilisi,” she said, “Bush and McCain made their strongest speeches yet. The Russians seemed to back down. Bush and McCain have been very good for us.”

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

WAR WAR war War bomb bomb bomb house my wife bought for me WAR WAR WAR bomb POW noun verb.

7 John. That’s the number of homes your wife bought for you.

And one private jet!

and 520 dollar loafers….

and how much did y’all make from that InBev deal?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Heres what john forgot

here

and

here

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

• A spate of e-mails linked McCain to an “associate” of convicted uber-lobbyist Jack Abramoff. So who was this associate? Ralph Reed — the former Christian Coalition director, who fell from grace after news reports that Abramoff had funneled gambling money to Reed. And how was McCain, who had held hearings to investigate Abramoff, “cozying up” — as Team Obama wrote — to Reed? It turns out Reed sent out an e-mail encouraging donors to attend a McCain fundraiser.*

Pretty flimsy stuff — and from the campaign that bristled when others tried to link Obama to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who crafted the phrase that became the title of Obama’s book, “The Audacity of Hope.”

Indeed.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Scary: McCain Wants to Reinstitute the Draft

Or maybe not…..

Seems he wasn’t really listening to the question.

OH BOY! Now that’s a marvelous trait for a President.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Florida had to go and whine about not having enough water:

“I want to stress that this storm is becoming a serious catastrophic flooding event,” said Gov. Charlie Crist, who scheduled a visit to tour part of the flooded area later in the day.

Perhaps Sonny prayed?

By Midori

August 21, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Karl Rove draws McInsane a cross in the sand

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

ANd after all that….Reed didn’t have the courage to show up to the fundraiser he organized.

What was that e-mail that McCain withheld from the ABramoff investigation?

John McCain crawled into the dirt with the keating 5 and never crawled out!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Midori

Hi!

Wouldn’t McCain be a great CIC….that is Cheater in Chief!

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

You can tell when the lib presidential kkkandidate is sucking wind because his goons will always start babbling about the Repug bringing back the draft.

He’s sucking real good, eh, SNEWZE?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Lifestyles of The Rich & Out of Touch Take a look at John McCain’s ten homes valued at $13,823,269

By TW

August 21, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Doesn’t know how many houses he has?!!!!

That’s great, John. It’s just one big Monopoly game, eh?

Change Garndpa’s diaper and put him back down for a much overdue nap.

By Paul

August 21, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla 12:16

You sure sound like a Family Values Republican -

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Sure enough, Rush>>>Tony Rezko.

Uncanny.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Andy,

That sounds more like your area of expertise.

Now stop being gross.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I am as I always was…a family values American!

By Midori

August 21, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Hi there Mrs. G.

Did you see the clip of McInsane agreeing that we need a draft?

maybe he should wear a heavier sweater, huh?

:)

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Maybe he just needs a hearing aid!

By Paul

August 21, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla,

Well, as I’ve said in the past, I’m not much interested in the private lives of our leaders. Go back thru history, eliminate all those pick those who were in crucial positions who led the country through some perilous times, who had “morality failings” (FDR, Kennedy. Clinton) and we may have had quite a bad outcome in those situations.

Heck, Mrs. G - look at the flip side. Take those who had zero fidelity problems - Bush, Nixon…. - kinda ironic, isn’t it?

Hello MIdori

Just checking in between packing for the trip - but in a nutshell - I remained opposed to the very idea of a draft. It can remove one obstacle to continued intervention around the world.

By jasper

August 21, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Wow, you libbies are in a real waxing illogical frenzy today. Its starting to come apart at the seams isn’t it. You’re guy slipping in the polls, the whole change thing starting to sound vacuous and ring hollow. The world all of sudden seems more dangerous than it used to be and your stammering community activist is starting to lose appeal.

Even some Dems are beginning to rethink their Obamaphilia and drift back into political malaise. The concept of leadership experience trumping popularity is gaining traction. As desperation turns to gloom, a light flickers in the distance. Its actually the reflection of freshly frosted hair under the white-hot spots on the stage at the Dem convention accepting the VP nomination. Oh Hillary, save us!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Actually HW had Jennifer Fitgerald……

Ike…..what was the drivers name?

And if tabloids can be trusted….the Globe prints some nasty stuff about George and Laura…

None the less….

Would you be interested in the Presidents private life if it turned out he was drinking heavily? Or on Ambien? Or Prozac?

Anyway, how did you manage to turn the conversation to this…? Damn your good!

By jasper

August 21, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

So Paul, Nixon didn’t have a morality failing. Or does lying and cheating even count with you libbies.

By Midori

August 21, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Hi Paul,

I agree about the draft.

By Tall

August 21, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

I’m a far fight Republican. No, I don’t want to see our military tangle with Russia in their own backyard. I doubt our military leaders do either. Putin picked his fight very carefully. He wanted one he was unlikely to lose. I suspect the Russian military is overrated and would not have made this move if they were to face an American military that was fully capable of attacking Russian positions.

By Paul

August 21, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

jasper

The operative word was “fidelity” not “morality.” We’re having a bit of fun with irony, here.

Mrs. G

And Eisenhower led the Allies to victory in Europe. More makes the point. Everything is not a “Party affiliation” thing.

We don’t hold peoples’ physical illness against them - why treated emotional illness (the drugs you cited can control the illness)?

And “thank you!”

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon all!

Why aren’t the hyennas howling? Because it’s Russia we are talking about here.

Russia. I’ll write it again in big letters just in case anyone missed it - RUSSIA. RUSH-EE-UH. Need I continue?

Well, just a little.

Bush and Co. are like the school yard bullies. Just like bullies who will only pick fights with those they know they can beat up (never had a problem with them much myself but…)they’ll invade countries that they know can’t possibly defend themselves, in the name of national security, or terrorism, or whatever the talking point of the day is, but with Russia or North Korea?

They have nuclear weapons and are not afraid to use ‘em.

We spent 40 years threatening to blow each other to smithereens (I like that word, and the band), but both sides knew the other was bluffin’.

McCain’s war cries are not only irresponsible, but completely crazy. And it shows what kind of preseident he’d be - a really, really bad one - not capable anymore of good sound judgement.

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Mrs. G!

Hey, what’s wrong with Prozac?

Wouldn’t it be better for a POTUS to be ON Prozac as opposed to OFF Prozac if needed?

By Paul

August 21, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Midori

Didya see? Now I’m a “libbie!” First neocon, then moderate, then center-right, now libbie!

Good cooking to you this weekend.

Hi Bosch

I think Massive Retaliation/Mutual Assured Destruction “worked” only because each side thought the other would retaliate, massively, to a strike. Interestingly, in much of the writings of that time a chem or bio strike was considered on a par with a nuke strike - inviting the same kind of retaliation.

The other aspect is we considered each other to be rational. I do not think the people who could have “the bomb” in Iran or Pakistan necessarily fit in that category.

Terminator - best episode of the season! And beach volleyball - you saw history being made! Great evening, wasn’t it?

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Tall,

The Russian military is overrated? This ain’t some po-duncky little Middle Eastern country with religious zealots living in the sand - this is RUSH-E-UH dude.

Who is probably backed by their favorite Commie friend country - China. CHINA - CHI-NE-UH.

I’m having fun doing that today.

By Midori

August 21, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

LOL, Paul - I got a kick out of that myself.

You dirty commie, you!!! :)

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Congratulations on being a liberal now.

Midori & Mrs. G., should we tell Paul the secret code word? Or give him the lapel pin? We can let him come to our secret “how liberals are evil, hate our country, and plan to ruin the country” meetings, right?

BUT, I did see the volleyball! Meow! Wait a minute, did I just type “meow?” Oh my God, I did, but it is appropriate. Oh, and BTW, I liked the cartoon. :-) Meow!

Those good ol’ American girls rock! ROCK, I say (or write).

Anywho, back in the day (Cold War day, that is) Russia had no reason to consider that we were rational - we’d actually USED the freakin’ bomb.

I think with any country, then and now, the world saw the complete devestation in Japan and in my opinion, realized that no matter what the circumstances, that never needed to happen again.

Maybe I’m naive, but I whole-heartedly believe that no one is crazy enough now to use a nuclear weapon - that is of course, they wish to have their own a@@es blown off the face of the planet - because that is what would happen.

Fly planes into buildings? Blow them and as many people they can up in one blow? Yes, yes, yes, but nuclear weapon? No.

The thing that kills me is that McCain talks about being tough on national security, but to me, having a p!ssing contest with Russia is not a very secure thing to do - you know, to keep our citizens safe and all - if that’s important to you.

By Paul

August 21, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Midori

I kinda thought you’d say “See the order, Paul? Now, that’s progress! Change we can believe in!”

Pleasant weekend, all -

By RW-(the original)

August 21, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, it’s our fault. Don’t you just love the blame America first crowd?

“We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies,” Obama told a crowd of supporters in Virginia. “They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”

I’ll let Allahpundit take it from here.

Here’s a newsflash, champ: Russia’s foreign minister did indeed invoke a case of U.S. military action in his Journal op-ed the other day, but it wasn’t Bush and the Middle East that he had in mind. I don’t begrudge the guy his leftist cant, but at least put some meat on the bone. How, precisely, would Russian actions have been different if we hadn’t invaded Iraq? Georgia and Ossetia have been fighting since Obama was in his 20s. Are we playing another game of Time Machine here, in which the war somehow becomes a justification even for misfortunes that preceded it?

By Midori

August 21, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

HAHAHAHAHA - Just for that Paul, Bosch, Mrs. G and I won’t teach you the “secret handshake” :)

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

I’d love Paul to come to our commie pinko libbies meetings….

But what does he bring for the buffet?

How do ya’ top depleted uranium tipped cannolis?

Paul, what’s cookin’?

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Midori,

But we should let him come to the meetings, we can blindfold him first though - you know, just in case he lapses.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Actually, I it’s the “America is perfect in every way” folks that are not just annoying, but generally at fault for all our nations ills.

If you love your country you make it better, you don’t sweep the mess under the carpet!

OH NO! Not my nation! My nation would NEVER do that!…..hell, we all know parents like that and what eventually happens!

By Maniac is accurate

August 21, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Braying like hyenas? Is that what they do? Huh.

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Oh geez, now you’ve gone and done it Mrs. G.

You know who will be in here any minute now screeching about how you’re a communist, America hating, unpatriotic, heathen.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Bosch, Midori

AND what about the secret fraternity paddle?

Thank you sir, you MAY have another!

By jasper

August 21, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Paul, I don’t thing morality and fidelity are mutually exclusive. Clinton might not have been impeached, but he probably won’t be cannonized either. I’m also curious as to what perilous time he led us through. Unless you’re referring to the probabitly that his skirt chasing distracted him from trying to do anything esle and messing it up, national security notwithstanding.

As far as your socio-political affilation goes, my bad, I was speaking to the fray.

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

Only if he lapses back.

He can bring some Commie Crab Cakes. Those are my favorite.

By Paul

August 21, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

jasper

I think fidelity is but one aspect of morality. Just an interesting observation that the hound dogs can come through in the clutch and the faithful ones have other morality shortcomings.

Mrs. G

Did up a not-too-bad chile verde last night. About to take it to the folks. Along with some fresh Anaheims to roast for chili rellenos. Still on a quest for the ultimate meatball, though. Thought I about had it until I was traveling through western NY, was going through a small town in the evening, looked up a small side street and saw an Italian restaurant - Calarco’s. I ordered meatballs as an appetizer. And was astounded. The waitress said the grandmother came in every morning and made the meatballs and the sauce. So there you have it. The quest continues -

“Uranium-tipped cannolis?” Do they come with a ‘glowing’ recommendation?

your 2:03 - trivia time - know who delivered that line in Animal House? The one and only Kevin Bacon! And when the cool frat guys were steering the hapless stars into the group that wasn’t going to get accepted in one of the opening scenes, who was in that group? None other than Samuel L. Jackson.

And with that I must hit the road.

By Midori

August 21, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Commie Crab Cakes????

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Maybe Paul should bring Middle of the Road Mojitos!

By Taxpayer

August 21, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Jay just couldn’t help but be onomatopoetic with this topic. Shouldn’t you have included the roar of the Russian bear and the whine of the Republican party to be more politically correct though. The howling part perhaps belongs to coyote Bush and the hyena sound could easily be Cheney but it’s not a howl. Hyenas make more of a sickening laughing sound like this.

By jasper

August 21, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Well by Mrs. G’s logic, we conservatives are off the hook. Because we certainly don’t believe that America is perfect in every way. In fact we are quite certain that its government is anything but perfect, far too expansive and expensive.

Thanks for exonerating us. Hope you don’t get paddled to hard at your secret meeting for this.

By Midori

August 21, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Jasper,

it’s not the “hook” you guys are off.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Jasper!

Not all conservatives are off the hook…. just the ones still hung up on last century’s “blame America first” stuff.

Those folks still have the hook, the line and the sinker!

As for paddling….that’s only for plebes and only after they get out of Republican Rehab.

By jasper

August 21, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Paul - its more interesting how you equivocate a lack of fidelity with morality. Again I ask what crisis slick willie led us through. Putting him in the same company with FDR and JFK is really an insult to FDR.

Someone be sure to tell Obama, when the going gets tough, sleep around.

By Taxpayer

August 21, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

When asked what kind of shape the US is in right now, Mark Vitner of Wachovia Corp. said that we’re in economic purgatory. Upon hearing this, McCain promised to look into it just as soon as he caught up with bin Laden at…well, you know where.

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Midori, Bosch & Mrs. G— hey Y’all, and I can plan to bring the Greenie Weenies in a Blanket — always a big hit at the green libbers’ hoedown!

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

“Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in a statement. “Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people ‘cling’ to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?”

Well do you Dimwit?

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Jasper @ 2:30: I’d like to know what crisis you believe Dubya led us through — I mean, other than the 30% Club-ers who still have their noses in his patooty and still think he’s the bees’ knees???

I recall that the imperfect Clinton years in the 90’s did not include bankrupting our country all because of some Neo-cons’ wet dream to take over the oil fields in the Middle East… but, invading and occupying a country that never attacked us — yeah, that’s correct — President Clinton never did that, now did he???

By Midori

August 21, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

GOLDIE!!!!!!!

Hey girl!!!!!! :)

Yeeee HAW!!!!!!

Greenie Weenies all around :)

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Poor Obama a million dollars short on the McCain Rich-o-Meter!

There’s a reason they call him DUH…

By jasper

August 21, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

And for desert at the socialist soiree:

Affirmative Action Alamode and Marxist Manna. Have as much as you like, someone else paid for it. tootles

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Midori — and I look forward to fist-bumping with y’all at our next lib gathering.

But seriously, we should all try to meet-up sometime during the debates this fall… wouldn’t that be a fun time? Have a Bookman’s appeasing commie green libbers’ debate party!

By RW-(the original)

August 21, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

AJC/DNC-M,

I’m sure The Dunce would answer your question anytime, anywhere, but what that means in Obumbler speak is no way, no how.

Mrs. G.,

It’s not just your spelling that’s suffering, that 2:30 makes no sense whatsoever as to who is and isn’t on your “hook.”

And since when does pointing out that The Dunce thinks a 2003 invasion caused hostilities that date back to 1991 and openly blames America for it mean that the person pointing this out thinks everything is perfect with the country?

Nothing could be further from the truth. We’ve turned Congress over to a bunch of children that do nothing but hold show trials, we’re on the verge of electing a full blown Marxist President, and no matter how screwed up these people get things we’re supposed to smile and send them another check. Then rather than fixing real things with this new check they turn around and send it to somebody else to buy another vote. Far from perfect if you ask me.

Goldielox,

Ever heard of Kosovo?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

jasper,

we can see your bringing the sour grape koolaid!

By Midori

August 21, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

that’s an EXCELLENT idea.

I look forward to meeting Bosch in person - I wonder if he is as cute as I think he is? :)

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Goldie….

Can you bring some of that Ronnie Raygun veggie to go with the greenie weenies….

what’s is called?

wait…

oh yea, ketchup!

By jasper

August 21, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Goldie, kitten, you’d have to read up a few entries to get the gist on this one. But don’t strain yourself. I’m no Bush fan. He wasted a perfect opportunity to shrink our bloated federal debacle, and needlessly got us mired in a war that could have been avoided. Worst of all, he got you libbies energized enough to fall for a community activist tele-prompter junkie afro-centrist chicago style politician.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Midori, Goldie, Bosch,

How about this?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

It just tickles me to see someone say…. I’m no Bush fan ……BUT….

There’s one born every second as they say!

By Bosch

August 21, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

I LOVE Greenie Weenies!!!!!

Midori,

You made me blush. :-)

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

So, McBush probably feels like dung today, now that Dubya is signing onto a “timetable” for withdrawal from Iraq — Dubya and those damn terrorist-appeasing Repugs in the White House!

BAGHDAD — Iraq and the U.S. have reached preliminary agreement to withdraw American forces from Iraqi cities by next June, six years into the increasingly unpopular war, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said Thursday after meeting with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G— Thinkin’ Man’s in Decatur would be fabulous… and do you know if the Oct. 23rd date is for one of the debate nights, and do we need to reserve any space to attend? I sometimes meet with some friends in Atlanta at Manuel’s Tavern, but I’ve heard excellent things about Thinking Man’s and would love to go there!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Been to Manuels…..Never been to thinking mans….either would be great…

By RW-(the original)

August 21, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

I finally heard the number of houses soundbite that has moobatica all atwitter and it did sound ridiculous, but it’s not all that easy an answer and the ad The Dunce put out doesn’t even have it right. They have three houses they use and four investment properties, but one of the three they use is a compound with five houses on it.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Here a house, there a house, every where a house, house

Old McCain has got more houses (and condos) than he can even count!

By GOPs got to go

August 21, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

What I can not begin to understand is WHY anyone would ever willingly listen to the AM idiots at all. Now that would surely be my own little hell on earth to be compelled to hear rant after rant from a fat, percocet popping know nothing. Jeez, I just got the shivers even thinking about it.

I have thought from the beginning of the Georgia/Russia crisis that we may be backing the wrong guy. I think Russia may have some legitimate complaints with Georgia. If Mexico and Canada where planning a treaty with Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea to place defensive missile blockers on the Rio Grande border or Quebec I think we may somehow have a problem with that. I also agree with Jay’s question of just why in the hell are we footing the bill? This system is thought to cost around 5.2 billion dollars now, the actual cost will probably be much more. Right now we have a similar system in place else where that is only accurate 50% when tested on missiles deployed when they know the projectory angle and time they launched them. Call me crazy, but I do not think we will get that information before the launching of any real attack. I say if Poland and NATO want these things then use Euros to build them.

Bush and NATO have said these missiles are defensive, but the Russians view them as offensive. Just why are we poking Russia with a stick? I think they are ready to make nice, but will not tolerate missiles in their backyard, and neither would America.

(I know this was yesterday’s discussion but I chose to ride my bike)

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G — my 1st choice would be Thinking Man’s just because I live closer to Decatur, but that’s just me… Also, during Dem events, Manuel’s can get very crowded — the ‘04 debates at Manuel’s were loads o’ fun and loud, but finding seats for everyone was almost impossible.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 21, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

By Mrs. Godzilla August 21, 2008 3:38 PM Here a house, there a house, every where a house, house

I know, aren’t all climate changers hypocrites?

~~~~~

Jay is pleased that the day of his political party’s execution is drawing near>>>>>

By Midori

August 21, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Goldie/Mrs. G - any spot would be good for me. I too have been to Manuels with friends a few times - met and hung out with the famously fabulous Mike Malloy there :)

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Mike Malloy!!! Very Cool.

The website says that they meet there every Thursday……..

I don’t have a free thursday night till 9/11.

Maybe that makes sense….

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

The agreed to debate schedule for this fall — 3 for prez and 1 for VP. The one on Oct. 7th looks interesting, it will be town-hall style where they’re asked questions from the audience:

McCain and Obama Reach Agreement on Debates

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

**MCCAIN SLAPS DOWN LIBERALS KICKING UP A FUSS ABOUT HIS MANY HOUSES”“

“This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison,” spokesman Brian Rogers told the Washington Post’

Noun Verb POW

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Will we even be able to find McCain if we need to call him at 3 am

By Midori

August 21, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

LOL MRS G!!!!

You’ve nailed it!!!!!

By jasper

August 21, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

When you go to the Thinking but do nothing man’s tavern, be sure and order the Nanny-State-Nachos, some of the ingredients may be illegal and alien to your palate, but nevetheless it won’t cost you anything.

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

And I wonder if McBush will even know where he himself is at 3:00am — he claims he doesn’t even know where he lives. I do believe America is No Country For Old White Men anymore…

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

The Anatomy of a Deception: How The McCains Changed Their Baby Adoption Story Just Before 2008 Campaign Began

By Goldie

August 21, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Thinking Man’s on any Thursday sounds like mucho fun to me — and I’m sure they won’t be serving any Welfare-For-Corporations canapes there for any Repugs who show up to party with us!

By jasper

August 21, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

The question was, “How many properties do you own?”, not houses, 3 of the seven are investment properties and this number has fluctuated over the years as these instruments ebb and flow for people of that particular financial status.

A better question would be, “How many of your properties did you buy at a reduced rate with the help of a convicted felon”.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Problem with your question is that it’s trash.

Debunked.

Nonsense.

Garbage-a-roonie!

Check the Chicago Tribune, long standing right leaning newspaper.

You say Rezko, we say Renzi

You say Rezko, we say Ralph Reed

You say Rezko, we say Keating 5

You say Rezko and we know you care more about winning an election than the truth.

Just like your candidate for cheater in chief!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Jasper…..squirming is rather undignified!

By jasper

August 21, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Mission accomplished, got your goat.

Face it, your guy aint nothing but black, and as much as I can empathize with symbolism and self image, if he weren’t, he’d be just another grease spot on the Hillary highway.

Proven Leadership ability has to come into play at some point. This isn’t just a popularity contest. The free world may be at stake. We’ve already had a stammering idiot for 8 years, we don’t need another.

NO Experience NO Substance NObama

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 21, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

Jasper….

Sorry no goats here.

Could you be refering to that old goat who’s all the GOP could dig up this year?

It was his turn to do a DOLE after all.

By jasper

August 21, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

It’s amazing that a man who has dedicated his life to serving this country with 20 years in the Air Force, 5 of that in a POW camp; 20 years in the Senate reaching accross the aisle, and you want to dismiss that as “who’s all the GOP could dig up”. I would remind you that the GOP was trying to cover him up.

Comparitively Obama is an empty suit, but because he’s got style and makes you excited, you’re willing to sink to any depth of rationale to disparage one of this country’s most honorable citizens.

And you say that we care more about winning than the truth. You care more about winning than your own integrity. We need the best man for the job. I don’t believe the job entails fulfilling fantasies.

By @@

August 21, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

The most trivial things excite you libs. How many houses McCain has??????

First off — could it be that McCain concerns himself with more important matters.

Second — I thought OBlahMa said wives were off limits. They’re Cindy’s homes?

Third — Do any of you have any idea how much of her time and money Cindy McCain devotes to charitable causes here in the states and abroad?

Last, but not least — I believe it was back during the 2004 elections, the Democrats said “a candidate’s (Kerry’s) wealth made no difference as long as he or she was trying to help the little guy.”

I’m surprised the above-it-all, intellectually superior OBlahMa grabbed on to this one. I read where it was a “lowly staffer” who got all excited (like you lowly bloggers) when he/she caught McCain’s remark. Then the whole headquarters was a buzz. Couldn’t wait to put something together.

Elitism has nothing to do with wealth.

It has everything to do with attitude. Words aside….it’s when One is so full of himself, that he has difficulty relating to the average man on the street. Sound like anybody you poll errrrrrr I mean know?

By Hillbilly Deluxe

August 21, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

Actually I doubt if Obama, McCain, or the vast majority of Congressmen have any idea how the average American lives.

By @@

August 21, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

I’d agree with you on that Hillbilly. McCain does have a unique definition of “rich” though — one with which I also agree.

Some of the happiest people I’ve known were far from wealthy…..not even middle class. Some of the wealthiest people I’ve known were the most miserable.

That’s ^^^ me talkin’ not John.

By FrederickDouglass

August 21, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

Jasper @ 5:26, McCain was in the Navy, not the Air Force. The Air Force as we know it today was formed in 1947, John McCain flew with Bull Hulsey in the late thirties.

By jasper

August 21, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

Thanks FD on the correction. Either way it shut Mrs. G up.