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DEL.ICIO.USNouri al-Maliki pulls a Shecky Greene
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I lost my virginity to Shecky Greene.
Speaking purely journalistically, of course.
Back in the early ’80s, I was working as the entertainment editor of The Las Vegas Review-Journal (my career has been all downhill ever since). Shecky was about to open his comedy act at one of the big Vegas hotels, so I did a cover story on him for our magazine.
In our interview, Shecky ripped the cheap hotels then being built along the Strip, complaining that they were ruining the town. But after that quote appeared in the paper, Shecky issued a statement denying he had ever said such a thing. His remarks had made some important people mad, and he had to throw me under the bus.
I was fresh out of college, and that was the first time in my career that someone had pulled that manuever on me. I knew Shecky had said it; he knew he had said it. And we both knew he was lying when he denied it.
I see that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has now executed a Shecky with a half twist. In an interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel, Maliki basically endorsed the timeline — excuse me, the “time horizon” — proposed by Barack Obama for withdrawal of U.S. troops
“U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right time frame for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes,” Maliki said.
Asked if he supported Obama’s approach over that of John McCain, the Republican presidential candidate, Maliki said he did not want to recommend who Americans should vote for.
“Whoever is thinking about the shorter term is closer to reality,” he said. “Artificially extending the stay of U.S. troops would cause problems.”
Once that statement began to draw attention, the Iraqi government issued a half-hearted denial, claiming Maliki’s remarks had been mistranslated or misunderstood. The denial didn’t say what, if anything, Der Spiegel had gotten wrong, and the statement itself was released through the U.S. military press office, not by the Iraqi government.
Maliki said it. He wants us gone sooner than later, and he’s making that more and more clear all the time.
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By getalife "whiners"
July 20, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Born in Vegas.
West coast.
He was dead wrong about the hotels on the strip but my Dad said the same thing.
He was a regular at the Siver Slipper.
I think malarki is playing politics and wants to hand out more American welfare on the streets of Iraq.
Turns out the gop ♥ welfare unless it is for the poor American people.
By "The Corporal"
July 20, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
President Bush, Admiral Mike Mullen, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and now Private Obama all have their own opinion/time-table/time-horizon/withdrawal/ground conditions/surge/standstill/retreat regarding the the removal of U.S. troops from Iraq. What a mess.
By Bud Wiser
July 20, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
al-Maliki is only saying what he wants the Iraqis to hear so they don’t send a fleet of suicide bombers his way. Disingenuous to say the least the least.
Don’t we still have American military presence in Japan, Germany and Korea, and those wars have been over for 50-60 years? Just asking.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
The truth is that some will believe any lie to be the truth as long as that lie is the truth that they want to believe. The Bush administration knows this and exploits it to the fullest. For the rest of us, a Tokyo Rose by any other name…
By Midori
July 20, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Last time I looked, we didn’t invade and occupy Japan, Germany and Korea.
We were at war with those countries.
You know, war as in declared by congress.
Against people who attacked us.
When did Iraq attack us? I must have missed that action.
By Midori
July 20, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
have a beer on me
By AJC/DNC Management
July 20, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
Actually, what Maliki did was an Obambi:
He said what he didn’t believe but what the voters wanted to hear.
Bwa.
By AJC/DNC Management
July 20, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
The speech (on Iraq) has two purposes. One is to artfully evade Obama’s massive misjudgment of the “surge,” which he unequivocally opposed.
When Obama begins a sentence with “As I have said many times,” this means that he is about to announce a totally new position that contradicts everything he has said before. For a little reminder of what Obama has actually said about the surge “many times,” check out this video clip helpfully posted to YouTube by the Republican National Committee.
But that is not what is most interesting about the speech. What is most interesting is its main purpose, which is to make it sound as if Obama is offering a whole new strategic direction for the War on Terrorism—while he declares that he would implement precisely the policies that are already being followed by the Bush administration.
That final flip-flop that the left has been dreading, when Obama throws out his commitment to a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq? It just happened. I wonder how long it will take them to notice.
OBushie?
By @@
July 20, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
O-:MG………Jay? Maliki is a fan of Obama’s when it comes to “refining the message.”
Obama just allowed himself to become a rube in U.S./Iraq negotiations.
When was the last time RW mentioned what a dunce Obama is?
The OBumbler went to listen to commanders on the ground.
Here ‘ya goBAMA!
The Pentagon’s top military officer said Sunday a specific time frame for withdrawing US combat troops from Iraq could jeopardize political and economic progress, leading to “dangerous consequences.”
Adm. Mike Mullen said the agreement between President George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to set a “general time horizon” for bringing more troops home from the war was a sign of “healthy negotiations for a burgeoning democracy.”
And Barack found himself knee-deep in his own BS.
When was the last time RW mentio……….
oh nevermind.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right time frame for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes, Maliki said.
Of course what it said in Spiegel before they altered that answer to what Jay presents was significantly different making me think it’s Spiegel that pulled the presto chango act here. This is what it originally said the answer was.
Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as were concerned. US presidential candidate Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months. Assuming that positive developments continue, this is about the same time period that corresponds to our wishes.
Obambi’s plan doesn’t take into account the positive development part.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Hitler didnt just move the monument to its more central location. He had a taller column built for it as well, to emphasize its message of German military domination over Europe. He saw it as a message to Germans of their destiny as well as to other Europeans as their destiny as well. It was never meant as a symbol of peaceful, multicultural co-existence.
Team Obama has outdone themselves on symbolism with this choice. Theyve managed to make their hosts uncomfortable for a second time with their choice of rallying point, and perhaps more so this time. If one wanted to talk peace, what worse location could one choose than Adolf Hitlers favorite monument to militaristic domination? One has to wonder how France, Denmark, and Austria will feel about Obama rallying German masses under the Siegessule. Deja vu?
Have I mentioned that this guy is a dunce?
By Bud Wiser
July 20, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
“By Midori
July 20, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Last time I looked, we didnt invade and occupy Japan, Germany and Korea.
We were at war with those countries.
You know, war as in declared by congress.
Against people who attacked us.”
So in your revisionist history, we were attacked by Germany and Korea…..you know, war as declared by Congress……against people who attacked us?
So when again were we attacked by Germany?
And when again did Congress declare war against Korea?
You Bush haters just never can get the facts straight, can you? You make up stories, and try to revise history to suit your stupid rhetoric. Doubtless you are another product of Georgia public schools. Try to be a little more factual and not make yourself look so stupid in the future.
My dad once told me that there are ignorant people, and stupid people. Ignorant people are not necessarily dumb, just not in possession of, or ignorant of, the facts. Stupid people are the ones that have the facts in front of them (if they care to look), but simply choose to ignore them anyway. Since you obviously flunked high school history, go to the library and pick up a book sometime…..you know, a BOOK, those things with pieces of paper in them with words on them.
You are such a tool. But, thank you anyway, I will have a beer of my choosing, with whom I choose, simply because it is so dam hot.
By NRA member
July 20, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
Gee, buttgeyser, you sure hurt our feelings. Please like us. We’ll do better next time. Your understanding is all we want.
HIT THE DECK, BUTGEYSER!!!
By AJC/DNC Management
July 20, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
Already his plan to have a public rally in Berlin is being called tacky by some Germans, but the Obama team only sees upside in an event they hope will recall President Kennedy’s 1963 “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech. Some wags say the audacity of the plan means a fitting twist for Obama would be “Ich bin ein beginner.”
“Ich bin ein dimwit.”
By @@
July 20, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
RW’s 5:12!
O-:
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G-OBAMA
G-OBAMA
G-OBAMA
Unbelievable!
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Barack Obama is on his way to Europe, where an adoring public awaits. But I wonder if the reception would be quite so enthusiastic if Obama’s fans across the Atlantic knew a dirty little secret of his remarkable presidential campaign: Although Obama portrays himself as the best candidate to engage the rest of the world and restore America’s image abroad, and many Americans support him for that reason, so far he has almost completely refused to answer questions from foreign journalists. When the press plane leaves tonight for his trip, there will be, as far as I know, no foreign media aboard. The Obama campaign has refused multiple requests from international reporters to travel with the candidate.
This spring Obama allowed at least one foreign reporter on trips to Ohio and Texas. But as the campaign has progressed, access has become more difficult for foreign correspondents. E-mail inquiries get no reply, phone calls are not returned. My colleagues and I know: We are last in line. We don’t matter.
I guess Team Barry doesn’t want Obambi to run the risk of getting a real question. Of course he would then try to pull a Shecky Greene, but unlike out intrepid entertainment writer, the foreign reporter would probably be recording the answers.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
Why so little talk about McCain. Well, for one thing, no one can repeat the words he uses to describe his woman. Temper, temper, foul mouth. I’ll bet the evangelicals in the Republican party will have to do a lot more than hold their nose to vote for this guy. Then again, they did vote for Bush.
By Bud Wiser
July 20, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
NRA Member:
Not
Really
Altogether
INCOMING!!
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
But since 1999 new evidence has seriously weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause of global warming, and by 2007 the evidence was pretty conclusive that carbon played only a minor role and was not the main cause of the recent global warming. As Lord Keynes famously said, “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”
Oh my! From a scientist no less. Want more? It’s a good read.
4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says something important about which was cause and which was effect.
The last point [#4] was known and past dispute by 2003, yet Al Gore made his movie in 2005 and presented the ice cores as the sole reason for believing that carbon emissions cause global warming. In any other political context our cynical and experienced press corps would surely have called this dishonest and widely questioned the politician’s assertion.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.—Gaffemaster Obambi
No surprise that bit wasn’t in his prepared text.
Liberals aren’t less militaristic than the rest of us. They just differ as to who it is that needs to be confronted by our forces.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this
A study of turbulence encountered by airplanes found that the turbulence occurred during flight immediately after passengers buckled their seat belts hence verifying cause and effect.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this
But if Obama believes deep-down in his own infallibility, then it’s almost inevitable that when he’s speaking he will tend to deny having taken a position that proved to be wrong, or even that proved to be impolitic. And if he believes deep-down in his omniscience, then perhaps it is not mere cynicism that lies behind his claim to be post-partisan, or to have comprehended and absorbed the essence of the conservative position on this or that issue (e.g., gun control, deregulation, faith based initiatives)
It’s been reported that before his speech to the Democratic convention in 2004, Obama was pacing (strutting?) around comparing himself to Michael Jordan. If Obama feels Jordanesque when he’s speaking, then perhaps the only test he’s able to apply to his utterances is how mighty or grandiose they make him sound. On the basketball court, Jordan unconsciously took on the law of gravity. At the podium Obama unconsciously takes on the law of contradiction.
That bit about Obambi claiming he never took the positions he took might even be called pulling a Shecky Greene.
If you haven’t read the Krauthammer piece it’s linked within that link. Oh, what the heck I’ve got one more link available right here.
The Audacity of Vanity
By Believer
July 20, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
Speaking of vanity, all she did was twirl his hair and comment that it was a little thin. Did McCain really have to behave like such a child. It’s so unbecoming of a president. Just imagine if he had one of his tantrums with the Queen of England or worse.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
Does anybody have a link that proves this allegation that Believer keeps hinting at ever really happened? For obvious reasons, it’s a difficult Google search.
By Abomi Nation
July 20, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Most of us “seventy-eightpercenters”, also known as Bush haters, can’t wait to see Obama speak in Germany before tens of thousands of people. Remember when Clinton would speak before gigantic crowds of adoring fans all over the world.
We’re sick and tired of our current embarrassment also known as George W Bush. America can begin to get some of her pride back when that dufus leaves office in exactly six months.
The Germans sure love Obama, Bild newspaper found 72 percent of Germans would vote for him over McCain in the Nov election if they could. Only Obama could pull of a trip like this. McCain drawing a crowd of 50 in Germany sure would be a let down. Bush on the other hand would probably have to have one of those surprise unannounced visits like when he goes to Baghdad if he were to speak in Germany. They hate Bush with a passion in Europe.
Anyway, enough of Bush. Millions of people from all over the world will watch Obama’s speech in front that huge German crowd. American pride is making a comeback! Thank you for that Mr Obama, thats just what America needs at this moment. God bless you!
God Bless America!
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this
I just checked Shecky Greene’s web site and he says Der Spiegel tried to pull a Jay Bookman yesterday.
j/k
On another note, Obambi’s plan to disarm America
By @@
July 20, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this
Believer would buy anything the tabloid journalist Cliff Schecter is trying to sell at Huffington Pee who links you to a Raw Story article on the same housefrau hooey.
Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, blah blah b-b-b-blah
Hey Believer! You really should get out of the house more. Some folks even wear their pajamas outside so you won’t have to dress.
GO FOR IT GIRLFRIEND!!! DON’T BE AFRAID
By AJC/DNC Management
July 20, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this
Most of the Euroweenies that hate Bushie also hate America, they see us as too big for our own britches.
It’s a major league case of pe-nis envy.
And the majority of Americans do not want their leaders to be slobbered on by Surrender Monkeys, respected is more to our liking.
So, in the next few days, as you watch these people adore Obambi, ask yourself, what do they know that we don’t?
Is he loved by them because he is their best hope to put America “in it’s place?”
By Believer
July 20, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
Talk about unbelievable. No matter what search engine I use, there is no such person as Obambi running for President or anything else for that matter. I think whoever is using such a name is just ignorant or worse. This person might just be a frolicking runt.
By Ray
July 20, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
abomani nation,
The last time I looked, the Americans were choosing their president, not the Europeans who do not have a vote. The last time I looked also, pandering to a foreign power for “approval” gets us nowhere except weaken our resolve to preserve our way of life. We are not Germans, Italians, Iraqis or Russians. We are Americans, living in a secure country, protecting our way of life and fending off threats from other countries that would have it other ways. I can’t wait until Katie interviews Obama in front of the Brandenberg gate, music in the background, the “adoring” German people looking on, made for TV. Think how many corn plasters and denture adhesives this will sell to dumb Americans who think that this doofas has a clue about what is going on in the world. Wake up, abomi, you are being duped by a very clever media who has a bent for self destruction. Fortunately there are Americans out there that see through this crap for what it really is. Respect for America from non-Americans comes from respect for deeds accomplished, strength and perserverance. Old Ronnie put it pretty well when he said that he couldn’t remember a war that was lost because the victor was too weak. Or would you rather learn to speak Farsi and be stoned because you couldn’t?
By @@
July 20, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this
Women for Obama
By Hillbilly Deluxe
July 20, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
If we didn’t invade Germany how did somebody I know pick up a .50 caliber wound in the leg there in 1945?
By Believer
July 20, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
@@,
I’ve got a dollop for you, you runt. Now get out of bed and put on some pajamas.
By N-GA
July 20, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
“…if Obama believes deep-down in his own infallibility, then…”
IT IS REALLY PATHETIC WHEN SOMEONE HAS TO USE SUPPOSITION TO DRAW ERRONEOUS CONCLUSIONS…BUT TYPICAL.
But to use it twice in the same propagandist argument is truly the sign of an incredibly weak mind.
By ObamaGirl
July 20, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this
HEY LOOK! Obama sent us a postcard.
We R fine. How R U baby? All the news channels showed clips of U playing basketball.
That
is
like
so
cool Dude!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Barack, did U notice how I spelled dude with a CAPITAL “D”? LOL
CNN - Let me give you a quick set up on this next piece of video. Senator Obama goes into the gym afterward and shoots a free-throw. Then he mingles with some of the soldiers. One female soldier, in particular, challenges him to try and do it again. Now, watch this as it plays out.
MSNBC - Now, before Afghanistan Senator Obama stopped off in Kuwait to talk to the troops there. You remember all that grief Obama got for being a terrible bowler? Well, at a local gym someone handed him a basketball and he promptly sank a shot from way outside the paint. He made it look easy. You just have to pick the game.
We saw U on “Face the Nation” too. WOW, just WOW!!!!!!!!
*In his only extensive comments so far, Obama on Sunday made it clear to Lara Logan on CBS’ “Face the Nation” that he expects his next trip abroad will be as commander in chief, and that he will be reelected.
When you become President (notice the cap “P”? hee) anyway, as I was saying baby…
When U become president U can teach the world how to play basketball.
Man oh man, U really are something else Barack baby. It doesn’t matter what
you just rrrrrrrrrrrr.
Rrrrufffff
By Midori
July 20, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this
If we didnt invade Germany how did somebody I know pick up a .50 caliber wound in the leg there in 1945?
simple — they declared war on us and we fought back.
they attacked us, and we fought back.
Now, back to Iraq:
when did IRAQ declare war on us and/or attack us?
I won’t hold my breath while awaiting your answer — I’m cooking spaghetti for dinner.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this
Obambi for President
Now imagine if I hadn’t put that in quotes.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
These Republicans on here cannot even talk about McCain because what more could people possibly want to hear about the Bush clone. Instead, the likes of @@ lie around in bed all day fantasizing about John McClain. Yippee kayay.
By @@
July 20, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
Nope! No fantasizing about McCain. I’ll vote for him but that’s as far as it goes.
Google OBumbler for President.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this
When did Kosovo or Bosnia attack or declare war on us?
At least Iraq was violating a cease fire agreement by shooting at our pilots every day.
By Ray
July 20, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this
If we are stuck with these two politicians running for the highest office in the land and the title of the most powerful person on the face of the earth, I don’t think that either party has done the American electorate a favor. A black community advocate with little to no experience in the real world and a 70 year old war veteran whose senate record leaves little to be admired. Our system stinks. There might be some liberals who really believe that Obama offers a solution to the last eight years but I doubt that most of them, in their heart of hearts, think that he is up to the job. He is just not Bush. Anyone, just not Bush. Think about the media spin. The liberal media spins this crap to the gullible American public to sell air time, political gaff and collect their lucrative multimillion dollar salaries for appearing knowledgeable. And who is the looser…… the average voter who is being manipulated, duped and cajoled into thinking that they make a difference. God help the American public and the American way of life…. I had hoped for better for my grandchildren.
By Midori
July 20, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
I thought I was addressing the poster’s question about Germany?
Forgive me if I don’t partake in this world tour, or your Wizard of Oz techniques (I suppose Bosnia is now the straw man?)
By @@
July 20, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
So who would have been your preferred candidates Ray?
D and R please.
Just curious.
By Midori
July 20, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
You 28 percenters are something else.
what are the world are you going to do come November?
go nuclear?
sorry, to coin your loser hero: nukelear???
By Midori
July 20, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this
more rats jumping off the swift boat?
By "The Corporal"
July 20, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
To Ranters, name callers & drivelers ………
It continues to amaze me the way liberals on this and other AJC blogs describe their venamous “hatred” for President Bush. Such hatred really in the long run destroys the person doing it.
Conservatives on the other hand strongly disapprove of Obama but their remarks are generally focused on his lack of experience, flip-flopping and not really knowing who he is.
Some people have a little class and some don’t.
By AJC/DNC Management
July 20, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this
Aahhh, yes, let us just check and see how adapt I R o Dim is at picking the next president:
By Midori July 13, 2007 10:54 AM hopefully the first action of a hillary or edwards presidency is to fumigate the white house, and rid it of all stenches bush and cheney.
Hahahahahaha, yeah, that worked out real well.
By @@
July 20, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
Midori:
Any losses in the house will go to Blue Dogs - watch and see. I told you after the 2006 mid-terms that the democratic party wanted nothing from the far-left other than their votes. To them, you, and those like you, are a means to an end, nothing more.
Oddly enough Obama has proven me right.
The end, however, is not a win for Obama. His lead is within the margin of error. He may have “the fist bump” down but he just can’t seem to get “that bump” in the polls.
24% of unaffiliated voters have a Very Unfavorable opinion of Obama while only 15% have a Very Unfavorable opinion of McCain. McCain leads him by 2 pts in Very Favorable opinions. The 2 is not really enough to mention, I just thought I would take the advantage.
By Midori
July 20, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
face it Andy — America is fed up with you lunatics.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
Mr. 57 states plus the five he hasn’t been to doesn’t even know how long Presidential terms are.
I’m pretty sure I’ve mentioned it, but this guy is a dunce.
I thought Bush was supposed to be the one declaring himself president for life and scrapping the 22nd amendment.
By Ray
July 20, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this
Wish I had a solution. Wish we all did. The two party system with it’s drive toward selective choice and the way that the presumptive “rises to the top” is one of the most ineffective ways to elect a strong leader. Money, influence, powerful interest groups, big contributors, all have an influence on how we do business. Think about no special interest money. Everyone contributes 3$ on their tax return to national candidates, regardless of party. This is the only money to be used. Everything else is a felony to accept, from anyone, lobbyists, PACs, etc, and you only have X amount of dollars to spend. Cut back on the strings attached to special interest contributions and the power base it creates. This is too important a decision to have strings attached to the money. This is our future, our children’s future and the future of our country. Politicians have used this country for far too long for their own interest and it is time for the American electorate to take control. Who has the balls to step forward and put the system right. Certainly now the two candidates that are running and not any candidate in the near future.
By AJC/DNC Management
July 20, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Oh yeah, like I’m gonna venture into the Huff and Puff.
You can hitch your wagon to the anti Clinton vote getter if you so choose, oh mighty dim one.
Me, I will remain realistic.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this
Like I said, there is no one named Obambi running for President (Hopefully, I don’t need to spell out the fact that I’m talking about the candidates for the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election — then again.). Some folks just think they know how to comprehend the written word.
.
By @@
July 20, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this
Let me guess Ray…
Chuck Baldwin, The Constitutional Party’s candidate?
Bob Barr, Libertarian Party?
Cynthia McKinney, Green Party?
Ralph Nader, Independent Party?
Brian Moore, Socialist Party?
Joelle Fishman, chair of the Communist Party USA Political Action Commission and the Connecticut Communist Party is backing Obama but you’ve already said you didn’t like Barack so……
Which one Ray?
J/K, you don’t have to tell me.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this
Believer,
The way HOPEANDCHANGE flips and flops he may well have changed his name to Obambi. Barry H. Obambi to be exact. Do you complain when we call the other one McBushie?
By Ray
July 20, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this
@@’ Don’t you see how the present way we have of doing business is only contributing to business as usual? I don’t like any of your choices and I wonder if you like them too. Why do we have to be captives of a two party system that only serves itself and not the people who should be controlling how the outcome turns out? Any politician, regardless of party, is not accountable to the people who put them in office unless they pork the hell out of the system to maintain their incumbent status. The system should not control our future, we should. McKinney, Barr, Nader, give me a break. There have to be better choices than that.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this
Corporal @ 9:12,
Your bias is showing. You may want to cover it up.
By Midori
July 20, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this
Believer,
let them have their silly little nicknames.
that’s ALL they have.
have pity on them.
By "The Corporal"
July 20, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this
By Believer July 20, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this Corporal @ 9:12, Your bias is showing. You may want to cover it up.
To Believer:
Bias - “a particular tendency or inclination”.
Hatred - “intense dislike or extreme aversion or hostility.”
Bias is o.k. - hatred is not. I hope you know the difference.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this
Corporal,
Do you hate bias or is your bias driving your hatred. I hope you know the difference. Now, did you have a point to make? Are you insinuating something with your choice of definitions? Are you claiming that I did not use “bias” appropriately in my comment to your earlier post? What? What? Come on, spit it out (Hey, it’s your computer).
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this
McBushie has a bad habit of referring to Czechoslovakia in current terms and there is no end to the stories of how he’s gone senile or is on the brink of Alzheimer’s. Perhaps, they say, he’s just out of touch and doesn’t know the world as it exists.
But when Sam Nunn’s name comes up as a possible Obamessiah VP he’s a sure bet to bolster the Gaffemaster’s foreign policy credentials.
By Believer
July 20, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this
You just did that on purpose, didn’t you? Using “McBushie” as though you really mean it. You’re so Carly Simon, you probably think this message is for you.
Anyway, enough fun for now. It’s past my bed time. Good night all. You too, Corporal.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
His campaign already has by far the largest full-time paid staff in presidential campaign history, and unlike Republican rival John McCain’s, continues to grow by the day.
See! It isn’t just burger flipper jobs propping up the unemployment situation.
Vote for Obambi or millions lose their cushy campaign jobs Somehow a Blazing Saddles reference comes to mind.
By RW-(the original)
July 20, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this
Believer (in Lord knows what),
Check the archives.
Goodnight!
By Hillbilly Deluxe
July 20, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this
I never thought Shecky was funny anyway.
By Midori
July 21, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this
His campaign already has by far the largest full-time paid staff in presidential campaign history
what do you expect?
answering your sides slime and lies takes a lot of effort.
that’s just more people who can deal with the GOP slime machine.
Good on Obama!!
By GodHatesTrash
July 21, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this
Curly Girl’s gerbil died.
How devastating.
By AJC/DNC Management
July 21, 2008 5:53 AM | Link to this
When tax revenues fell, as they always do from time to time, the dimwitocrats in Atlanta cut essential services while the Repugs in Georgia government withdrew money from their savings, money put aside for just this reason, who do you think kookman is whining about this morning?
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Oh well, so much for ethanol:
Price rise for food may curb cocaine-Urinal/PMS
Just as soon as the libs in Hollywood get word of this, look out for the dimwitocrat switchboards to light up.
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You feel like there is something missing here?:
9 adulterers face death by stoning-Urinal/DNC
Face stoning where, Alabama?
Or maybe at the White House?
By the way, that reminds me, will Lord High Dimwit be stopping by to see Iran on his Grandest World Tour?
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The anti American propaganda machinery, fresh off it’s major defeat in Iraq, has stepped right into the fighting in Afghanistan, whining and moaning without even missing a beat:
U.S.-led troops and Afghan forces killed nine Afghan police Sunday in Farah province in western Afghanistan near the Iranian border, calling in airstrikes and fighting on the ground for four hours after each side mistook the other for militants, Afghan officials said.
Only the negative found in the pages of thee Doom and Gloom.
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History-minded Germans point out that the Siegessaule was erected to commemorate Prussia’s 19th-century victories over Austria, France and Denmark. Furthermore, the current location of the monument was chosen by none other than Adolf Hitler, as part of his ambitious plans for the architectural renovation of the German capital.
Team Obama’s difficulty in finding a suitable site for his Berlin speech is unlikely to get much attention from the TV news anchors traveling with the candidate this week. Yet it highlights the fundamental problem of Obama overseas excursion: It is a purely symbolic gesture from a campaign that increasingly seems more interested in symbols than substance.
By Bud Wiser
July 21, 2008 6:09 AM | Link to this
“By Midori
July 20, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this
If we didnt invade Germany how did somebody I know pick up a .50 caliber wound in the leg there in 1945?
simple they declared war on us and we fought back.
they attacked us, and we fought back.”
Your stupidity in the face of the FACTS is astounding. I am amazed you can put one foot before the other and walk upright. Did you even GO to school? Revisionist libs are a hoot at times, but you are dangerously stupid. What is the real shame is that your one vote counts exactly the same as mine, unless you pull a Dimmokraut technique and also vote ‘for’ a few dead people.
If you are too lazy to look up the sequences that lead to World War II, might I provide one for you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWarII
Moron.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 21, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this
* any question of mistranslation or misunderstanding is put to rest. The interpreter was al Maliki’s, not Der Spiegel’s. And Der Spiegel provided the Times with a tape recording of the interview, which was then independently translated and confirmed the accuracy of the original Der Spiegel account. *
By GodHatesTrash
July 21, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Yep, nine dead Afghan policeman.
Obviously not as significant as that gerbil that died last week.
By GodHatesTrash
July 21, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
Little Butt Whiner can’t even figure out how to post a link.
Tell your mommy to change your diapers and feed you your breakfast and GET OFF THE COMPUTER LITTLE BOY!
By "The Corporal"
July 21, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
To Believer:
I’ll try a little “reasoning” with you one more time (assuming you are not a teenager, were drinking last night, or are on drugs). Try to follow this:
1) My original point was that liberals in general show a pure “hatred” for Bush but that conservatives in general don’t “hate” Obama - they just don’t want him to be President due to his inexperience.
2) Then you said my bias was “showing”.
3) Then I replied bias is o.k. but hatred is not.
4) Then you came back with your 11:05pm diatribe.
Now, would you like to debate my point about liberals hating Bush vs. conservatives being biased against Obama ? Is one appropriate and the other not ?
By Wild Bill Hiltner
July 21, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
The real issue at hand is how wrong Obama and others (such as JB)were when they said the surge would not be successful. Had the Obama plan of immediate exit been undertaken, millions of innocents would have lost their lives, Iraq qould be in a beyond-the-thunderdome state, and Al Qaeda would rule the roost. Any discussions about a time horizon exist soley because of the Bush/McCain/Patreaus surge. It is shameful that Obabam (and JB for that matter) won’t admit what happened here and, rather, they try to take credit for the work and risk undetaken by better men. One would hope (but not expect) that Obama and Jay would show that they have something between their legs by admitting that we are at the point of discussing a withdrawal only because it has always been that we will stand down when the Iraqis stand up. It is most dispicable to act as if Obama had something to do with the currwent circumstance when, in fact, his judgement would have resulted in one of the largest genoicdes ever undetaken on this earth.
By Bud Wiser
July 21, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Trash, you are such a tool. You post nothing of value. Your stupidity shows with each word you write. You are a waste of air
Grow up, you little sh!t-for-brains. Not once have you ever posted anything of value, or truth for that matter. Your vile insults are laughable, because you are such a dead end moron. Hell, even the crap on the bottom of my shoes has more class than you, and probably smells better.
Have you ever done a decent days work in your life, or are you one of the suckoff crowd of welfare collectors? You give bums a bad name. My guess is that you go to bed every night on your knees before a little statue of Bill Clinton, praying for more government handouts.
I choose in the future to completely ignore anything you may post, because nothing you post is true, or of value to anyone. It is just a garbage spew of left wing vomit, which probably circulates around inside what passes for your brain. You do not deserve a response. The only thing you deserve is a swift kick in the head.
By Hillbilly Deluxe
July 21, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
The United States declared war on Japan Dec. 8, 1941. Germany and the US declared war on each other Dec. 11, 1941.
By "The Corporal"
July 21, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Two thoughts for your responses:
1) If you read the paper today, Iran has sentenced eight women and one man convicted of adultery to death by stoning. Under Islamic law, men are buried up to their waist and women up to their neck then they are stoned to death. Ah, the wonderful world of Islam!
2) Pundits are saying if Obama is not elected there will be riots in the streets in some of our major cities. I wonder what this says about those who vote for him ?
By SpoloBemSomia
February 3, 2009 7:50 PM | Link to this
Я ни разу не вдумывалась в самые невероятные колдовские порчи, в особенности тогда, когда кто-то из “посвященных” рассказывал, что на меня наложено какое-то сильное заклинание или порча. Все-таки буквально месяц назад мы с подругой решили ради интереса узнать судьбу и обраться к колдунье. Меня потащили к вещунье просто за компанию. Чем черт не шутит - решила я - вот и моя очередь узнать свою судьбу. Когда все-таки мы приехали по нужному нам адресу, она тотчас же подошла ко мне с такими словами: “Ой, деточка, непрожить тебе дольше одного месяца на белом свете…”. Конечно же кроме простой улыбки у меня это ничего попросту не вызвало. Тем временем гадалка продолжила свой рассказ: “Навели на тебя самое тяжелое проклятье - душенька твоя у тебя уже одной ногой по ту сторону… и семейный род свой ты не можешь развить из-за того же…”. Врачи мне уже более 3 лет назад открыли правду о том, что я никогда не смогу иметь детей, но каким образом бабка смогла об этом узнать - ведь я скрывала это в секрете и ни кому, ни отцу, ни матери, ни близким подругам не рассказала о своем бесплодии. После всего произнесенного бабка взяла какую-то книгу Вуду, открыла её и сделала странный ритуал. После всего этого посмотрела на нас и сказала, что традиционно стоило бы сделать жертву. Я не долго думая, решила быстро прекратить этот обряд и мы ушли, не завершив разговор. Больше ничего правдоподобного старушка не сказала - как вы думаете, необходимо ли мне верить в ее слова?