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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue — mentioned in some circles as a longshot vice presidential pick — said he hasn’t been asked for his tax information by the campaign of presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain.
Such scrutiny typically precedes a candidate’s selection as vice president. Perdue was asked about the screening following a Monday rally at the state Capitol for McCain, where several hundred Republicans gathered.
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By AJC/DNC Management
July 15, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
Sounds like he must not be a real candidate, eh?
By AJC/DNC Management
July 15, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
McBushie gets in a jack slap:
Senator Obama is departing soon on a trip abroad that will include a fact-finding mission to Iraq and Afghanistan. And I note that he is speaking today about his plans for Iraq and Afghanistan before he has even left, before he has talked to General Petraeus, before he has seen the progress in Iraq, and before he has set foot in Afghanistan for the first time. In my experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around: first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy.
Bwa.
By CJ
July 15, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
I have a funny feeling that McCain is going to pick MN Governor Tim Pawlenty to be his running mate.
By hillbilly ragger
July 15, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
CJ @ 4.30, if that’s true, then can we assume the campaign song will go something like…
“I got Pawlenty of nothin’, and nothin’s Pawlenty for me”?
By hillbilly ragger
July 15, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
Wait a minute, LuckoTrool @ 3.53…
“McBushie” is supposed to be a… compliment? WTF?
I thought that equating McCain with Bush was enough to get you tossed out of the Mavericky One’s town hall meeting?
talk about your mexed missages…
By AJC/DNC Management
July 15, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
By hillbilly ragger July 15, 2008 4:48 PM Wait a minute, LuckoTrool @ 3.53McBushie is supposed to be a compliment? WTF?
I am not naive enough to not know that my candidate is Bushie the Third, besides which, it drives you moonbats crazy, it worked with you, no?
Perhaps you should try realizing that your kandidate is Dukakis the Second instead of High Lord and Savior.
By RW-(the original)
July 15, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
All these politicians that have herds of mindless reporters coming after them asking if they’ve turned over this or that paper to one of the campaigns can blame the same thing you can generally blame any turn of events for the worse. A loose lipped Democrat. This time it was Chris Dodd that was missing the attention so he went to the press and told them Obambi was asking for all his background info. It’s not as bad as Schumer causing a run on IndyMac, but it is the reason we have these pack animal ‘news”people babbling about turning over papers.
By AJC/DNC Management
July 15, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this
In wartime, judgment and experience matter. In a time of war, the commander-in-chief doesn’t get a learning curve. If I have that privilege, I will bring to the job many years of military and political experience; experience that gave me the judgment necessary to make the right call in Iraq a year and half ago. I supported the surge because I believed it was our only realistic chance to reverse the disaster our previous strategy had caused, and the right thing to do for our country. And although events have proven me right, my position wasn’t popular at the time, and I risked my own political ambitions when I took it. When I tell you, I will put our country’s interests — your interests — before party; before any special interest; before my own interests, every hour of every day I’m in office, you can believe me. Because for my entire adult life, in war and peace, nothing has ever been more important to me than the security and well-being of the country I love.
By AJC/DNC Management
July 15, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
And now for the PMS point of view of Iraq:
Over the weekend, as first reported by the New York Daily News, the Obama campaign website changed language from declaring “the surge is not working” to that which instead states: “despite the improved security situation, the Iraqi government has not stepped forward to lead the Iraqi people and to reach the genuine political accommodation that was the stated purpose of the surge.”
Make up your mind, Nancy.
By @@
July 15, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
Now what are they whining about?
Neb. supporters pay big bucks to see McCain
It’s always gotta be somethin’.
By Hillbilly Deluxe
July 15, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this
If they heard about Sonny’s land deals they probably realized there was no need to ask for any further info.
By getalife "whiners"
July 15, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Obama scrubbed his blog so:
I started a movement
By Taxpayer
July 15, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
I think your movement is picking up as much steam as my attempts to get Ron Paul elected.
By getalife
July 15, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this
Actually, it is working
Bwa.
By BT fan
July 15, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this
McCain-Jay Bookman…..Barrack H OBama-Cynthia Tucker ajc will be a state and free newspaper again
By jon
July 15, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this
Bookman is going to get hand cramps drawing McCain bashing cartoons from now to November. He was so desperate for a McCain bashing subject today that he just decided to fall back on the stereotypical depiction of an older man, i.e. too old to understand computers.
Tomorrow’s cartoon will probably show McCain driving on the highway with his blinker on.
Bookman knows that he has a tough job ahead of him trying to convince Americans that Obama has a clue about how the world works, so he will resort to stereotyping McCain as a senile old man.
By SUBURBAN OVERLORD
July 15, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this
Does Sonny run as a VP on leading the decline of the state of Georgia relative to her neighbors? Not a good idea… Raising taxes his first term in office? Not a good idea… Baiting state legislators using the 1940s tactics of playing Atlanta against rural Georgia? Not a good idea Being Americas Fishing Governor? Not a good idea Screwing the flaggers? Ok, that last one is something to build on.
Why does Georgia not generate state Republican leaders with stature and ability to govern like our southern neighbors who can vote in Charlie Crist in Florida or Bobby Jindal in Louisiana? I would even take as our Governor (or VP) that funny-talkin Yankee governor from Minnesota, Tim Pawlenty.
By green tea
July 16, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this
green tea say sonny don’t run vp
muff said
By AJC/DNC Management
July 16, 2008 5:53 AM | Link to this
Isnt it amazing how swift the vindication of Conservative ideas is coming lately?
Bush Says Drill, Drill, Drill and Oil Drops $9!
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They want diplomacy and then they whine when you give it to them:
U.S. envoy to meet with Iran on nukes- Hopes raised for increased diplomacy, The decision appeared to bend, if not exactly break, the administration’s insistence that it would not negotiate with Iran over its nuclear programs unless it first suspended uranium enrichment, as demanded by three resolutions of the U.N. Security Council.-Urinal/DNC
Gosh, I wonder if thats what they are negotiating about?
Some things are too tough to figure out on your own, arent they AJC/DNC?
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Teenage detainee breaks down on tape, Boy held at prison in Cuba grilled over grenade toss, Toronto - In a video released Tuesday, a 16-year-old captured in Afghanistan cries out for his mother and says he needs treatment for his battle wounds during questioning by Canadian officials at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay.-Doom and Gloom/DNC
Why, he was just playing grenade toss with Coalition forces, the poor thing!
Got that, future throat cutting savages?
Just whine and moan about mommy when you get caught, thee Urinal/DNC will gin up sympathy on your behalf.
Youll have the Supreme Court freeing you in no time flat.
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While murderers run wild in their city, the D.C. Council cracks down on you:
The District of Columbia Council approved new firearms legislation that will allow residents to begin applying for handgun permits this week. The emergency legislation will allow handguns to be kept in the home if used only for self-defense and carry fewer than 12 rounds of ammunition.-Doom and Gloom/PMS
Now they can kick your door down to count your bullets.
Geez.
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Queen Pinko arrives to the party fashionably late:
Pricey council does a number on Atlanta’s police By Cynthia Tucker- Some of those positions in the police department could have been saved if the Atlanta City Council had behaved with fiscal restraint. But it didn’t. While demanding cuts in other city departments, the council has indulged itself, committing to spend about $3 million more - for staff, travel and other expenses - than it did in the last budget.-Urinal/DNC
And?
By GOPs got to go
July 16, 2008 6:07 AM | Link to this
If he says Urinal one more time………..
By Planner
July 16, 2008 7:38 AM | Link to this
Jay, these blogs are simply becoming unreadable. Between people who seem to think that name calling is an effective way to get across their point and those who have you confused with Luckovich, there’s nothing of value here for most of us. I don’t mind reading comments from conservative readers if they can make their case without using playground taunts. But I’m really at the point that it’s not worth my time to sift through all this garbage to find the random insightful comment (or even one that’s remotely on topic). I’ve mentioned this to several friends and they’ve also given up on these blogs.
I know you’re pretty diligent about reading through the posts and commenting. Would it be possible for you to have some sort of “Editor’s Choice” vote that filtered out the best comments. I feel confident that you would pick a variety of conservative and liberal posts, while sparing us the pain of having to scroll past page after page of cut-and-paste orgies of disjointed thoughts.
And FWIW, I think it would be amusing for you to try your hand at political cartoons one day and let Luckovich write commentary.
By hillbilly ragger
July 16, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this
GOPees @ 6.07, why do you care about that pathetic Luckotrool?
Poor Luckotrool was told he couldn’t pee in the Lucko comments thread any more, and now he just has to sit and eat it when he sees the online polling continues to show somewhere between 80-85% actual reader approval rating of Mike’s toons.
That’s why he’s so angry. It’s quite funny to watch, actually.
You don’t think anyone except us progressives who occasionally monitor such activity actually reads his copy/pasted drivel, do you? Seriously? do you?
Stop worrying about the Luckotrool. He’s irrelevant.
By hillbilly ragger
July 16, 2008 7:51 AM | Link to this
Planner @ 7.38, you must be new here.
The AJC set out on the wrong foot when they started these here blog things. The biggest mistake they made was to refer to individual posters to the comments threads as “bloggers.” that was a serious blunder.
Throughout the blogosphere, there are “bloggers” who post actual articles for people to comment upon, and “readers” who may or may not see fit to join in the discussion threads. Those readers are not “bloggers.” they’re anything from legitimately concerned, engaged individuals looking to discuss issues of the day to professional disrupters, either paid outright by certain political groups or even sent by specific Presidential candidates (see Jay’s recent piece on this.)
Having puffed up the collective ego of every political freak troll boy out there, there’d be something surrender-monkeyish if Jay or other AJC columnists were to suddenly do as you ask, and seriously endeavor to improve the signal-to-noise ratio by editing out the lower-IQ contributions. As it stands, Jay is pretty vigilant about dumping the outright racist/violent crap, and he’ll occasionally ask people to behave themselves (as he did to someone impersonating longtime poster “Dusty” in a rather disturbingly stalkerish way), but nothing more than that.
Give the current structure, that’s appropriate.
By Midlife Wonder
July 16, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this
Thanks for the kind words, (inciteful comments), Planner. Bookman feeds the trolls. The trolls are easy to spot. They try to B me. I rule this blog. It doesn’t take long and the entire tone of the blog becomes my clay. No matter how many evolutions of style I conjur, the entire board swings my way. I know all. I see all. I am uberpudwit man!
By hillbilly ragger
July 16, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
Oh, but there is one thing Jay ought to do: he should set a more reasonable character limit on a post. I think maybe two thousand or so would be sufficient. As it is, I’ve seen things that sprawl wayyyy longer than that.
By Planner
July 16, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
@ hillbilly ragger
I actually have posted sporadically for a while (but most often over on Wooten’s site when he starts foaming at the mouth over transit) and appreciate the difference between bloggers, readers/commenters and trolls. I read several national blogs on a regular basis and know that it’s impossible for some people to be posting contrary viewpoints with such regularity unless that is their paid job.
It’s one thing to manage a blog when you’re a blatant political hack and can edit out anybody who is off topic or disagrees with. But a blog on a journalism site has a lot of freedom of speech and censorship issues that can’t be ignored. Just the fact that so many ridiculous rants are allowed to remain posted on the AJC blogs is direct evidence that the AJC isn’t the uber-liberal rag that marches in lockstep with the DNC. The irony that they’re allowed to spew vast quantities of conservative drivel on a supposed liberal paper’s website seems lost on some people. You think Fox News would let me get away with the same kind of antics on their site?
I know there’s no good answer to the troll problem. But the columnists at the AJC often raise some interesting topics of local interest that I would like to be able to engage in a productive dialogue on. I happen to be in the transportation planning field and will always challenge when Wooten he starts pretending to comprehend transportation issues. I try to contribute regularly and make my points as an advocate of smart growth, mobility choices, etc. But almost without fail, I can expect to wade through pages of off-topic nonsense to find the posts by the four or five people who might be interested to hear what I have to say (or for me to see what points somebody else has raised that I may not have considered). It’s a topic of great interest to me (and should be of interest to everybody in the region), but any hopes of having a good exchange of ideas and viewpoints is being completely ruined. It’s just depressing that the adults can’t ever seem to have a rational conversation without the kids running around the room demanding attention.
By hillbilly ragger
July 16, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Planner@ 8.44, about all I can say to your perfectly reasonable post is that the AJC’s still in the baby-steps mode when it comes to back and forth on these comments threads. it’s pretty Wild West out here, and if they’d impose some basic formatting boundaries, allow direct replies in a threaded, heirarchical structure like the Internets have had since the dawn of frickin’ man, then maybe you’d have some of those reasonable discussions.
As it is, there are no threads, it’s just one long, rambling crapfest.
Besides, you don’t really think Wooten wants constructive criticism to his stupid columns on urban planning, do you? The guy’s a knuckle dragger, playing to the peanut gallery, at least on that topic.
By Planner
July 16, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
@ hillbilly ragger
No, I certainly don’t expect Wooten to actually read my posts. My hope is that somebody who might be inclined to believe his rhetoric may actually be swayed by facts, so I feel compelled to do my part to counter the misinformation he spreads. I try to do my small part, as futile as it may be.
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